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	<title>Comments on: NASA Administrator: Global Warming Is Not A &#8216;Problem&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Sherwood</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/31/griffin-nasa-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3921154</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You have 50,000 people and not one of you can explain to me global warming on Mars, and Jupiter?&quot;

I think the answer is pretty clear---   those uncaring Martian Republicans are driving too many gas-guzzling SUV&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You have 50,000 people and not one of you can explain to me global warming on Mars, and Jupiter?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the answer is pretty clear&#8212;   those uncaring Martian Republicans are driving too many gas-guzzling SUV&#8217;s.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3921154', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/31/griffin-nasa-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3860389</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see the first brown spot on Uranus with my telescope. You should see the Greenhouse gases in emits. Stunning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see the first brown spot on Uranus with my telescope. You should see the Greenhouse gases in emits. Stunning.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3860389', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Papertiger</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/31/griffin-nasa-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3835292</link>
		<dc:creator>Papertiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m standing here. 

You have 50,000 people and not one of you can explain to me global warming on Mars, and Jupiter? 
By the way there is also GW on Saturn, Uranus ,Neptune, and Pluto. 

Of course NASA might be lying, right?

Wrong, You can see the Second Great Red Spot on Jupiter with your own backyard telescope. You don&#039;t have to take their&#039;s or my word for it, unlike the way you have to take AGW on faith in the word of Al Gore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m standing here. </p>
<p>You have 50,000 people and not one of you can explain to me global warming on Mars, and Jupiter?<br />
By the way there is also GW on Saturn, Uranus ,Neptune, and Pluto. </p>
<p>Of course NASA might be lying, right?</p>
<p>Wrong, You can see the Second Great Red Spot on Jupiter with your own backyard telescope. You don&#8217;t have to take their&#8217;s or my word for it, unlike the way you have to take AGW on faith in the word of Al Gore.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3835292', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Karim</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/31/griffin-nasa-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3834715</link>
		<dc:creator>Karim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dare Dr. Griffin to make that statement to the Inuit and Aleutians. Asshole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dare Dr. Griffin to make that statement to the Inuit and Aleutians. Asshole.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3834715', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/31/griffin-nasa-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3834215</link>
		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;As far as I know, I myself am an â€œexpert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Changeâ€
Comment by Evil Spaniard &lt;/em&gt;

Really?  Me too!  All of my friends are expert reviewers as well.  

Small world....  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>As far as I know, I myself am an â€œexpert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Changeâ€<br />
Comment by Evil Spaniard </em></p>
<p>Really?  Me too!  All of my friends are expert reviewers as well.  </p>
<p>Small world&#8230;.  :D<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3834215', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: swampgas</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/31/griffin-nasa-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3834151</link>
		<dc:creator>swampgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, the link didnt show up

gristmill.grist.org/skeptics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, the link didnt show up</p>
<p>gristmill.grist.org/skeptics<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3834151', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: swampgas</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/31/griffin-nasa-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3834148</link>
		<dc:creator>swampgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, here is the whole argument on How to Talk to Global Warming Skeptics, who are essentially Exxon/Mobil, George Bush, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbuagh, and Fred Singer (Yes THE Fred Singer..........Same guy hired by the tobacco industry to deny any connection between cigarettes and lung cancer). The total number of skeptics are about 60 vs 50,000 that say Global Warming is real AND manily caused by human induced CO2 emissions.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, here is the whole argument on How to Talk to Global Warming Skeptics, who are essentially Exxon/Mobil, George Bush, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbuagh, and Fred Singer (Yes THE Fred Singer&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Same guy hired by the tobacco industry to deny any connection between cigarettes and lung cancer). The total number of skeptics are about 60 vs 50,000 that say Global Warming is real AND manily caused by human induced CO2 emissions.</p>
<p><a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3834148', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/31/griffin-nasa-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3834141</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, #178, you don&#039;t say who is the &quot;expert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change&quot;. As far as I know, I myself am an &quot;expert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, #178, you don&#8217;t say who is the &#8220;expert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change&#8221;. As far as I know, I myself am an &#8220;expert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3834141', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/31/griffin-nasa-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3834135</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;#178 IPCC Expert Says Climate Models Are Just Computer Games

Comment by RAL â€” June 1, 2007 @ 2:48 am&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, Boeing, Ford, and all the engineering firms must not work with modelling software programs, after all, software programs aren&#039;t valid tools for the job they are doing, but costly videogames.

Maybe computer simulations of the climante aren&#039;t perfect, but help the scientists to understand concepts and project consequences.

Frankly, your debunking of the computer models computer is frail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>#178 IPCC Expert Says Climate Models Are Just Computer Games</p>
<p>Comment by RAL â€” June 1, 2007 @ 2:48 am</em></p>
<p>Yes, Boeing, Ford, and all the engineering firms must not work with modelling software programs, after all, software programs aren&#8217;t valid tools for the job they are doing, but costly videogames.</p>
<p>Maybe computer simulations of the climante aren&#8217;t perfect, but help the scientists to understand concepts and project consequences.</p>
<p>Frankly, your debunking of the computer models computer is frail.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3834135', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RAL</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/31/griffin-nasa-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3833876</link>
		<dc:creator>RAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IPCC Expert Says Climate Models Are Just Computer Games

May 30, 2007 (LPAC)--Climate models are nothing more than computer games, an expert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change told EIR News Service today. 

The problem with the climate computer models, the scientist said, is that they are based on a bottom-up approach as opposed to a top-down approach. Think of a cat stalking a bird, the climate expert said. You see the cat tense, and creep towards the bird. Now picture only the bird&#039;s nervous system, and with that information, try to model the cat stalking. That is the equivalent of a global climate model. 

The expert also commented on how information-age thinking has negatively affected science writing. He noted that when he was in school you were taught to use a slide rule, and in using a slide rule you had to have an idea of what the result would be. Nowadays people just grab an algorithm off the shelf and use it, without any thought about what kind of result they will get. He pointed to the trend in articles in leading peer-reviewed journals such as Science and Nature, which use numerical values out to several decimal places, most of which are wrong. 

The scientist ended by asking the following scientific question: In the past two and-a-half billion years of the Earth&#039;s oxygen atmosphere, there have been only two climate states--one glacial and the other interglacial. In that time, the Sun&#039;s output has increased by 30 percent, yet the temperature has only increased and decreased only a small amount over the period. So how can a mere 0.4 percent of man-made CO2 now be catastrophic? 

Think about that the next time you hear Al Gore talk about global warming, or you read the next big climate change scare story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IPCC Expert Says Climate Models Are Just Computer Games</p>
<p>May 30, 2007 (LPAC)&#8211;Climate models are nothing more than computer games, an expert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change told EIR News Service today. </p>
<p>The problem with the climate computer models, the scientist said, is that they are based on a bottom-up approach as opposed to a top-down approach. Think of a cat stalking a bird, the climate expert said. You see the cat tense, and creep towards the bird. Now picture only the bird&#8217;s nervous system, and with that information, try to model the cat stalking. That is the equivalent of a global climate model. </p>
<p>The expert also commented on how information-age thinking has negatively affected science writing. He noted that when he was in school you were taught to use a slide rule, and in using a slide rule you had to have an idea of what the result would be. Nowadays people just grab an algorithm off the shelf and use it, without any thought about what kind of result they will get. He pointed to the trend in articles in leading peer-reviewed journals such as Science and Nature, which use numerical values out to several decimal places, most of which are wrong. </p>
<p>The scientist ended by asking the following scientific question: In the past two and-a-half billion years of the Earth&#8217;s oxygen atmosphere, there have been only two climate states&#8211;one glacial and the other interglacial. In that time, the Sun&#8217;s output has increased by 30 percent, yet the temperature has only increased and decreased only a small amount over the period. So how can a mere 0.4 percent of man-made CO2 now be catastrophic? </p>
<p>Think about that the next time you hear Al Gore talk about global warming, or you read the next big climate change scare story.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3833876', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RAL</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/31/griffin-nasa-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3833875</link>
		<dc:creator>RAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Climate Mafia Charged with McCarthyism

May 31, 2007 (LPAC)--British astrophysicist Piers Corbyn, who was featured in the British Channel 4 documentary, &quot;The Great Global Warming Swindle,&quot; published a letter to the editor in the London Times Higher Education Supplement for May 25. Corbyn was writing in response to an earlier article by former Royal Society media spokesman Bob Ward, who had warned universities to beware of &quot;fame-seeking climate denialists.&quot;

Piers Corbyn replied that the global warmers would rather not face the inconvenient truth that solar cycles determine climate. They associate questioners of their creed &quot;lurking&quot; in universities with &quot;holocaust denial.&quot; They intimidate scientists into silence through fear of attack, of loss of funding, or of &quot;Nuremberg-style climate courts.&quot;

Corbyn writes that these attacks on climate sceptics are McCarthyism, and that the attackers have adopted measures that were used earlier by Hitler and Stalin.

Piers Corbyn gave Executive Intelligence Review an exclusive interview featured in the current issue.

See: Interview</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate Mafia Charged with McCarthyism</p>
<p>May 31, 2007 (LPAC)&#8211;British astrophysicist Piers Corbyn, who was featured in the British Channel 4 documentary, &#8220;The Great Global Warming Swindle,&#8221; published a letter to the editor in the London Times Higher Education Supplement for May 25. Corbyn was writing in response to an earlier article by former Royal Society media spokesman Bob Ward, who had warned universities to beware of &#8220;fame-seeking climate denialists.&#8221;</p>
<p>Piers Corbyn replied that the global warmers would rather not face the inconvenient truth that solar cycles determine climate. They associate questioners of their creed &#8220;lurking&#8221; in universities with &#8220;holocaust denial.&#8221; They intimidate scientists into silence through fear of attack, of loss of funding, or of &#8220;Nuremberg-style climate courts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Corbyn writes that these attacks on climate sceptics are McCarthyism, and that the attackers have adopted measures that were used earlier by Hitler and Stalin.</p>
<p>Piers Corbyn gave Executive Intelligence Review an exclusive interview featured in the current issue.</p>
<p>See: Interview<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3833875', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: troll alert</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/31/griffin-nasa-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3833844</link>
		<dc:creator>troll alert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 05:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Does anyone know if there is any relationship between Michael Griffin and Tim Griffin,...
Comment by yathink&lt;/em&gt;

Not sure.
But with this Bush bunch,nothing would surprise me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Does anyone know if there is any relationship between Michael Griffin and Tim Griffin,&#8230;<br />
Comment by yathink</em></p>
<p>Not sure.<br />
But with this Bush bunch,nothing would surprise me.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3833844', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: yathink</title>
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		<dc:creator>yathink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know if there is any relationship between Michael Griffin and Tim Griffin, soon-to-be former Arkansas US Attorney? I can&#039;t find any, but the spelling is a bit odd and suspicious. I hear Tim is not only Rove&#039;s Rove but far worse. Wouldn&#039;t surprise me if they are related.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if there is any relationship between Michael Griffin and Tim Griffin, soon-to-be former Arkansas US Attorney? I can&#8217;t find any, but the spelling is a bit odd and suspicious. I hear Tim is not only Rove&#8217;s Rove but far worse. Wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if they are related.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3833335', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: BobL</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/31/griffin-nasa-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3833276</link>
		<dc:creator>BobL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, NASA = Need Another Stupid Administrator</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, NASA = Need Another Stupid Administrator<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3833276', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/31/griffin-nasa-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3833187</link>
		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just refreshed the google news page... 
the lead story was &quot;Bush proposes greenhouse reduction plan&quot;
with a picture of nuclear coolers next to that...
the juxtaposition was somewhat jarring, but too ironic...

here is the story with the picture:
http://www.alaskareport.com/z46136_greenhouse_gas_emissions.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just refreshed the google news page&#8230;<br />
the lead story was &#8220;Bush proposes greenhouse reduction plan&#8221;<br />
with a picture of nuclear coolers next to that&#8230;<br />
the juxtaposition was somewhat jarring, but too ironic&#8230;</p>
<p>here is the story with the picture:<br />
<a href="http://www.alaskareport.com/z46136_greenhouse_gas_emissions.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.alaskareport.com/z46136_greenhouse_gas_emissions.htm</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3833187', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Papertiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Papertiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 23:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hey liberal goof-balls. What are you going to do about global warming on Mars and Jupiter? NASA has proof of rising temps&lt;/i&gt;
Comment by Eric 

&lt;i&gt;That warming is due to a change in the albedo of the planets. And since no humans live on them adding to the heat with albedo changing things like concrete cities, highways and buildings reflecting heat there is no reason for man to worry about it now is there?&lt;/i&gt;
Comment by O&#039;Really

First of all the global warming on Jupiter isn&#039;t caused by a change in albedo, but even if it were how does a change in albedo negate the fact of warming on Mars being caused by an increase of insolance? Albedo is the reflectivity of the planet. For there to be a change making ice and dust  selective with a preference to landing on colder parts (ie; more reflective) of the planet, some new mechanism (ie the sun shining brighter) must be heating the less reflective parts of the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hey liberal goof-balls. What are you going to do about global warming on Mars and Jupiter? NASA has proof of rising temps</i><br />
Comment by Eric </p>
<p><i>That warming is due to a change in the albedo of the planets. And since no humans live on them adding to the heat with albedo changing things like concrete cities, highways and buildings reflecting heat there is no reason for man to worry about it now is there?</i><br />
Comment by O&#8217;Really</p>
<p>First of all the global warming on Jupiter isn&#8217;t caused by a change in albedo, but even if it were how does a change in albedo negate the fact of warming on Mars being caused by an increase of insolance? Albedo is the reflectivity of the planet. For there to be a change making ice and dust  selective with a preference to landing on colder parts (ie; more reflective) of the planet, some new mechanism (ie the sun shining brighter) must be heating the less reflective parts of the planet.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3833103', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Papertiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Papertiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 23:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;NASA never made the â€œclaimsâ€ you made - only your fellow â€œwingnutsâ€ did. Both of those planets have elliptical orbits - f*cking idiot. I would explain to you what that means, but I donâ€™t speak 6 year old scienceâ€¦
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NASA didn&#039;t make the claims, but they should have. Eliptical orbits operate according to Kepler&#039;s law. The second of Kepler&#039;s laws states that planets slow down the further from the sun they travel,and speed up during close approach. This means that the planet spends a long time in the cold part of their orbit and a short time in the warm part.  At the distance of Jupiter  the difference in insolation between aphihelion and perihelion is effectively nil, but if it were to have an effect on weather, it would tend toward cooling the planet over time (assuming  the sun remains constant).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>NASA never made the â€œclaimsâ€ you made &#8211; only your fellow â€œwingnutsâ€ did. Both of those planets have elliptical orbits &#8211; f*cking idiot. I would explain to you what that means, but I donâ€™t speak 6 year old scienceâ€¦<br />
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NASA didn&#8217;t make the claims, but they should have. Eliptical orbits operate according to Kepler&#8217;s law. The second of Kepler&#8217;s laws states that planets slow down the further from the sun they travel,and speed up during close approach. This means that the planet spends a long time in the cold part of their orbit and a short time in the warm part.  At the distance of Jupiter  the difference in insolation between aphihelion and perihelion is effectively nil, but if it were to have an effect on weather, it would tend toward cooling the planet over time (assuming  the sun remains constant).<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3832999', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: valiant venus</title>
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		<dc:creator>valiant venus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 22:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, Amanda - What DID you want NASA to do about Global Warming?  Drop dry ice on meltingGlaciers and hope it takes?? Are they supposed to buy more Carbon offsets than Al Gore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, Amanda &#8211; What DID you want NASA to do about Global Warming?  Drop dry ice on meltingGlaciers and hope it takes?? Are they supposed to buy more Carbon offsets than Al Gore?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3832912', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: VerbalKint</title>
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		<dc:creator>VerbalKint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 22:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment #165, meet comment #164.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment #165, meet comment #164.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3832907', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: O'Really</title>
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		<dc:creator>O'Really</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 22:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey liberal goof-balls. What are you going to do about global warming on Mars and Jupiter? NASA has proof of rising temps
Comment by Eric 

That warming is due to a change in the albedo of the planets. And since no humans live on them adding to the heat with albedo changing things like concrete cities, highways and buildings reflecting heat there is no reason for man to worry about it now is there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey liberal goof-balls. What are you going to do about global warming on Mars and Jupiter? NASA has proof of rising temps<br />
Comment by Eric </p>
<p>That warming is due to a change in the albedo of the planets. And since no humans live on them adding to the heat with albedo changing things like concrete cities, highways and buildings reflecting heat there is no reason for man to worry about it now is there?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3832776', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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