Plame sues CIA for blocking her memoir.
Plame sues CIA for blocking her memoir.
Outed former CIA agent Valerie Plame and her book publisher are “suing the Central Intelligence Agency, accusing it of unconstitutionally interfering with publication of her memoir. … The suit said although the CIA had released Plame’s dates of service in an unclassified document, ‘the CIA now purports to classify or reclassify Ms. Wilson’s pre-2002 federal service dates’ so it cannot be published in her memoir ‘Fair Game.’ The CIA had also demanded ’significant portions’ of Wilson’s manuscript be ‘excised or rendered “fiction”‘ to protect the secrecy of Wilson’s service before 2002.” In March, Plame’s husband Joe Wilson referenced the potential suit during an interview with Keith Olbermann:
The CIA is taking a look at it and they have no particular objections to the contents. They are trying to claim that she did not work for them before 2002, or cannot acknowledge she worked for them before 2002, which is sort of an Alice in Wonderland, Through the Looking Glass. We may have to litigate that. This is not the USSR. This is America and she has a right to tell her story.
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what a money hungry little b!tch
May 31st, 2007 at 7:27 pmGood for her! She’s having a great day. First judge Walton said he WILL release the letters that were submitted to the court in the Scooter Libby case, now her CIA suit is announced.
Stay on them Valerie! Nail these treasonous bastids!
May 31st, 2007 at 7:30 pmBut but but . . . she wasn’t covert! Why would they care?
Boohoo! Libby is eeenoceeent!
(How did I do? Sound like a good little troll?)
May 31st, 2007 at 7:32 pm“The CIA had also demanded [...] to protect the secrecy of Wilson’s service before 2002.â€
seems novak should have been held to the same standards…
May 31st, 2007 at 7:33 pmNote to all neocons, dittoheads, trolls, and other flaming idiots: Valerie Wilson was a covert agent at the time of Novak’s disclosure. Robert M. Gates testified to this fact. Patrick Fitzgerald has certified it in his court filings. This is an utterly dead talking point that only an idiot would use now.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:34 pmwhat a money hungry little b!tch
Comment by Mr. President — May 31, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
Project much, you republican money hungry little b!tch?
May 31st, 2007 at 7:35 pmKind of funny to think that if the idiots in the Bush White House had kept their mouths shut America wouldn’t even know who Valerie Plame or Scooter Libby are. Thanks to the Bush Leak Tank, America and the world got to see just how pathological and truly dysfunctional this outfit really is.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:35 pmwhat a money hungry little b!tch
Comment by Mr. President — May 31, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
What a worthless piece of shit, jealous to boot.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:38 pmwhat a money hungry little b!tch
Comment by Mr. President
You guys do walk in lock step with one another with your marching orders no matter what or how bad the lies are. I will give you credit for that.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:43 pmIt is well know why Plame was outed and what an asset she would be today if she could remain in Iran. No, the thugs could not have that and had to punish Joe Wilson for telling the truth.
Valerie Plame worked at a desk.
Scooter had a faulty memory.
Capitalism is good, but pursuing money is un-American and vulgar.
I don’t think Clinton actually outed a CIA operative, but you know he would have if it would have gotten him a blow job. So “Clinton did it too” applies.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:45 pmWhat I still want to know is what was so explosive about the Reagan papers that Dubya’s first executive order was to prevent them going public.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:52 pmBoy, they are never going to give up on her, are they. I hope she wins and wins big. I know she is not after money, she is after fairness.
May 31st, 2007 at 7:55 pmRoboTroll
May 31st, 2007 at 7:55 pmPlame was ‘covert’ agent at time of name leak
This is not the USSR. This is America and she has a right to tell her story.
Would that be a verbatim quote from all applicable laws requiring adherence to classification, secrecy and non-disclosure by CIA employees ?
Otherwise that’s the kind of ridiculous assertion you would only expect to hear from someone who doesn’t know what the CIA is.
If this is worth citing in bold on TP then why not state it in bold yourself and look just as clued-up. Maybe in relation to some reporting by Robert Novak on the same topic that springs to mind. FFS already.
May 31st, 2007 at 8:10 pmYeah Mr. President,
I know how being “money hungry” is appalled by yourself, and this administration
May 31st, 2007 at 8:19 pmI would like to thank #5 Verbalkint,
I second that comment.
May 31st, 2007 at 8:20 pmOver at AEI, they know she wasn’t covert at the time, its all a liberal conspiracy.
And the WMD. The wingnuts know better. They know the WMD’s were never found, and its ok to be sure of something with no proof, cuz its God’s work. /sarcasm
May 31st, 2007 at 8:22 pmNo, the thugs could not have that and had to punish Joe Wilson for telling the truth.
Comment by had enough — May 31, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
By committing ACTS OF TREASON
May 31st, 2007 at 8:24 pmProject much, you republican money hungry little b!tch?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 31, 2007 @ 7:35 pm
Project much, you republican money hungry little b!tch?
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLllooooooooooooooosssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeer micro phallus. How do that shwing?
May 31st, 2007 at 8:25 pmBy telling her classified story in the US not the USSR.
May 31st, 2007 at 8:32 pmSheesh.
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLllooooooooooooooosssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeer micro phallus. How do that shwing? Comment by Saywho — May 31, 2007 @ 8:25 pm
BORING….. More republican wingnut p*n*s envy… Another poor little projectile, is projecting again…
Is that why you’re always drawn to “tough talking” authoritarian politicians? Feel inadequate compared to “daddy”?
Poor little projecting sh*thead….
May 31st, 2007 at 8:33 pmBy telling her classified story in the US not the USSR.
Sheesh. Comment by Kilo — May 31, 2007 @ 8:32 pm
Pull down your skirt – she’s suing over the right to publish information that the CIA already sent out in UNCLASSIFIED form. They now claim that they didn’t intend to declassify it, although it had already been done…
Sorry wingnut, but you’re a f*cking idiot…
May 31st, 2007 at 8:35 pmThe thing that always amazed me about the whole Plame affair was how little attention was paid to Novak outing Valerie’s cover company Brewster Jennings. My question is, if Valerie was not an under cover agent, then why would the Bush Crime Family have linked the name of her cover company? And the leaking of the name of her cover company was a much bigger act of treason than just outing Valerie Plame. I am quite sure that Valerie Plame was not the only covert agent working under the cover of Brewster Jennings. The CIA does not go through all the effort of creating a cover company for just one agent. So, by outing Valerie Plame and her cover company at the same time, Novak outed every other agent who was working under that cover. For all we know there are people who were killed because of the treason of Novak and the Bush Crime Family. We can’t find out, though, because the investigation into the outing of the cover company is “classified”.
I also do not think that Patrick Fitzgerald is someone to be admired. He is a Republic appointed by Bush. And he did not file charges against anyone other than Libby even though Rove and Card both said that they spoke to reporters about Plame. What more did he need to charge them with treason? I believe that either the Bush Crime Family has something on Fitzgerald or they made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. And then they served up Libby as their fall-guy.
This country needs to know the total truth about this unsavory business. Hopefully when the Democrats take over the white house in 2009 they will appoint a truly independent prosecutor who will then charge members of the Bush Crime family with treason and publish the CIA’s findings as to the harm the outing did to other agents.
May 31st, 2007 at 8:39 pmHacker bob should get a load of this… He just accused me of lying about the Bushbot banning books… I think someone owes me an apology.
May 31st, 2007 at 8:43 pmFor all we know there are people who were killed because of the treason of Novak and the Bush Crime Family. We can’t find out, though, because the investigation into the outing of the cover company is “classifiedâ€.
But this is the US not the USSR. Demand that the names of those other employees be released in a completely irony-free way.
May 31st, 2007 at 8:53 pmokay — i admit trying to predict
the outcome of valeria plame’s
suit to get her book out of the
ham-hands of the c.i.a. is an
endeavour best left to experts. . .
but what IS NEW, and IS AVAILABLE,
already, from team-libby’s OTHER
FILINGS, tonight, in the criminal
case, are new new tid-bits — of
what those scooter-support
letters contain. . .
like scooter’s efforts on behalf
of another white house staffer
accused of leaking classified
information to a newspaper. . .
yep — he’s apparently been
here, before — in the role of
pro-bono lawyer — not client.
the letter from which this was
quoted may well be one deserving
of some redaction, so i will not
speculate about identities — no,
as to the incident, i’ll patiently
wait to match the above-quoted, to
whatever is made available on, or
after june 5, 2007. . .
that said. . . i think it permissable
to speculate about how this incident
might have influenced the arc of scooter’s
later trajectory — and his life — since then. . .
so, i cannot help wondering whether
scooter “went to school” in some
measure on this case, especially
insofar as it might have helped
him learn where the absolute edge
of “a policy disagreement” becomes,
well. . . “a leak to a newspaper“. . .
do take a squint. . .
May 31st, 2007 at 8:53 pmUn!
May 31st, 2007 at 8:56 pmMy first acolyte!
Get me a Guinness!
Comment by Kilo — May 31, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
Try to get back on topic, please.
May 31st, 2007 at 8:59 pmPull down your skirt – she’s suing over the right to publish information that the CIA already sent out in UNCLASSIFIED form. They now claim that they didn’t intend to declassify it, although it had already been done…
Sorry wingnut, but you’re a f*cking idiot…
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 31, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
Sorry retard but what relevance does this have to anything I’ve written ?
BTW, here’s an idea, you should call other people idiots while supposing that the massive secrecy apparatus with the power to classify information can’t do that whenever they want to whatever they want – which is basically all they do.
The term of CIA service has been classified and prevented in the last few books I have read by former CIA agents – namely Baer & Berntsen. This is standard practice even when the information has been previously disclosed, as explained by those authors.
This happening to another author just as it has to previous ones in identical circumstances isn’t noteworthy.
What is noteworthy is the fact that CIA employees are less restricted in what they can publish than others in the private sector with common boilerplate confidentiality clauses. What an outrage eh.
May 31st, 2007 at 9:07 pmSorry retard but what relevance does this have to anything I’ve written ? Comment by Kilo — May 31, 2007 @ 9:07 pm
Classifying something that’s already been de-classified and disseminated is as st*pid as your comment. Jake*ss…
What is noteworthy is the fact that CIA employees are less restricted in what they can publish than others in the private sector with common boilerplate confidentiality clauses. What an outrage eh.Comment by Kilo — May 31, 2007 @ 9:07 pm
Sure it is… Then how do you explain that an employee can fill out a resume with their “dates of employment” in the private sector, and she can’t?
You’re a st*pid lying little b*tch.
May 31st, 2007 at 9:10 pmBut this is the US not the USSR. Demand that the names of those other employees be released in a completely irony-free way. Comment by Kilo — May 31, 2007 @ 8:53 pm
Then maybe you should tell the US government to stop using USSR tactics? St*pid little b8tch…
May 31st, 2007 at 9:10 pmWhew, touchy subject it seems.
May 31st, 2007 at 9:16 pm“LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLllooooooooooooooosssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeer micro phallus. How do that shwing?”
While that makes no sense I have noticed you have dropped all pretenses of not being a rabid right-winger, Saywho. Congratulations.
May 31st, 2007 at 9:17 pmUn!
My first acolyte!
Get me a Guinness!
Comment by Wilco — May 31, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
Oh my Wilco! You’re a demanding deity! I thought you were just gonna create them at will now that you’ve been promoted to god status?
May 31st, 2007 at 9:22 pmWhew, touchy subject it seems.
Comment by ForTruth — May 31, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
Isn’t it though? They get all hot and bothered when TREASON is being discussed.
squirm scum, squirm
May 31st, 2007 at 9:23 pmUh-oh I see Rachel is off her meds again…
May 31st, 2007 at 9:24 pmOh my Wilco! You’re a demanding deity! I thought you were just gonna create them at will now that you’ve been promoted to god status?
Comment by unbelievable
Get him the Guiness! Somebody has to drink that shit. :D
May 31st, 2007 at 9:25 pmGet him the Guiness! Somebody has to drink that shit. :D
Comment by Zooey — May 31, 2007 @ 9:25 pm
LOL…
Of course if he were a benevolent god he’d get it himself.
May 31st, 2007 at 9:35 pmOf course if he were a benevolent god he’d get it himself.
Comment by unbelievable
Like I said: false god. Otherwise he would at least be drinking Murphy’s.
May 31st, 2007 at 9:37 pmLike I said: false god. Otherwise he would at least be drinking Murphy’s.
Comment by gummitch — May 31, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
Well, aren’t they all? :D
I’ll give him that at least it’s not Budweiser…
May 31st, 2007 at 9:39 pmWell, aren’t they all? :D
I’ll give him that at least it’s not Budweiser…
Comment by unbelievable — May 31, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
As Stephen Roberts said, “We are all atheists, I just believe in one less god than you do. When you understand why you don’t believe in other gods, then you will understand why I don’t believe in yours.”
Knock Bud all you want but leave Miller out of it. It is good for my state :)
May 31st, 2007 at 9:56 pm“I’ll give him that at least it’s not Budweiser…”
Life’s too short to drink that. I’ve pissed better beer.
May 31st, 2007 at 10:30 pmKnock Bud all you want but leave Miller out of it. It is good for my state :)
Comment by JPark — May 31, 2007 @ 9:56 pm
I love the Roberts quote because I think it is probably the best explanation for rejecting all deities.
Miller? You can have it all. I prefer microbrews on tap. There is this microbrewery in Boise that has a lot of really great unique flavors. My friends and I used to go there often. :D
May 31st, 2007 at 11:34 pmI’ve pissed better beer.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 31, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
You know this because…. ?
May 31st, 2007 at 11:35 pm“I love the Roberts quote because I think it is probably the best explanation for rejecting all deities.
Miller? You can have it all. I prefer microbrews on tap. There is this microbrewery in Boise that has a lot of really great unique flavors. My friends and I used to go there often. :D”
The Roberts quote is the ultimate in logic. Unfortunately “believers” aren’t exactly swayed by logic…or science…or history.
Oh, I prefer micros too (we have about 10000 of them in WI). As a mass marketed product Miller isn’t bad (it is better than Bud or “god” forbid, Coors).
May 31st, 2007 at 11:40 pm“You know this because…. ?
Comment by unbelievable — May 31, 2007 @ 11:35 pm”
Great head on it, lasted for at least 10 minutes. Color was about the same, maybe darker. Can’t say I tasted it – well, it was piss after all.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:09 amBush likes to selectively declassify information on a whim.
Maybe we can get him to declassify anything with which the CIA has issues.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:17 am“Bush likes to selectively declassify information on a whim”
That is really only a symptom. They classify everything just in case it might hurt them. That is the real problem.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:20 amAgain, this has no bearing on the fact that this happens as standard practice and that nobody has yet suggested that this classification isn’t warranted or allowed.
Much like the NSA spying on US citizens it appears that yet again this isn’t a problem for 30 years but it is when it happens while Bush is in office.
BTW if I were you I wouldn’t choose to cite the stupidity of an arguement as a disqualifying factor. After all, the article does state Plame is arguing that the classification of CIA service details violates the constitution.
Still zero people willing to agree with that statement ?
Even here pretty much every Bushhitler!!-treason!!!-impeach! screaming smacktard seems to realise how stupid such a precedent would be.
I don’t explain this. I assume that you can figure out on your own that listing “CIA front company Brewster Jennings” on your resume differs from someone in the private sector listing who they worked for in exactly the same way, then work backwards.
You didn’t actually think that private sector employees with confidentiality agreements were prevented from where they worked or for what periods were you ?
Or that if they did this could result in their business associates and work they accomplished during that tenure being compromised did you ?
Try using your head before typing. Saves redundant questions and answers like these. Makes you look less naive.
Sure thing, random non sequitur insult guy.
Non sequitur insult man strikes again!
Maybe you should have told them this every year for the past 30 when the same thing was happening.
June 1st, 2007 at 4:14 amOr just quit with the selective, fake, hysterical outrage.
Classifying something that’s already been de-classified and disseminated is as st*pid as your comment. Jake*ss
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 31, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
LMAO. If you bother reading the article you are describing an unclassified letter from the CIA to Plame about her retirement benefits as this information being “declassified and disseminated”.
Clearly it deserves neither description.
Also if Plame finding out how long she has worked for the CIA in a private communication between these two parties amounts to these details being “declassified and disseminated” information that is able to be freely republished without consequence, then clearly Robert Novak isn’t the enormous arsehole we’ve all been thinking he was for the past 4 years.
Libby. Cheney. Absolved. Because obviously once Plame knows details about herself then sharing this with the rest of the world is no different and breaches no classification rules about that information. Right ?
Yeah, why don’t you tell us who you think is stupid there kid. I’ll jot that down for future reference right after I catch Rosie O’Donnell’s list of fat delusional women with little future in media.
June 1st, 2007 at 5:02 amSince when has the CIA started banning fiction books?
June 1st, 2007 at 7:14 amI have to believe that Mr. President’s comment at 1 was a joke.
June 1st, 2007 at 11:14 am