Conservative collapse.
By on Jun 1st, 2007 at 1:43 pm
Conservative collapse.
Over at National Review, “Kathryn Lopez says she has “Bush Derrangment Syndrome,” David Frum says ‘It’s Divorce,’ … and Mark Levin says ‘The President is Losing Me.‘”
UPDATE: Cernig documents more.
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Has to happen, this president isn’t good for conservatives either.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:44 pmLike rats fleeing a sinking ship…sweet.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:46 pmHe’s still my No. 1 hero. Til death do us part.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:50 pmTrue conservatives never liked Bush to begin with.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:52 pmMakes me wonder what brand of kool-aid our trolls are drinking. It must be wood grain alcohol- as it’s blinded them.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:53 pmLooks like Idiot Boy has finally found a way to unite the country.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:53 pmI see. So now the mantra of the “conservative” movement is: “We’ve been wrong all along but now we’ve come to our senses and are once again worthy of your full and unquestioning trust.”
Fcuk each and every one of you moronic imbeciles. Your lack of relevance is exceeded only by your lack of credibility.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:53 pmTil death do us part.
Comment by Patrick1 — June 1, 2007 @ 1:50 pm
Not possible to be so lucky.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:53 pmNow I’m thinking, the President can’t be all bad…
June 1st, 2007 at 1:54 pmThis will really sink his approval ratings, because you know what lemmings the far right can be… All it takes is for enough conservative talking heads to abandon ship and Bush will be down with Cheney into the teens…
June 1st, 2007 at 1:54 pmIs it really shocking that Patrick1 says he just can’t quit Bush?
June 1st, 2007 at 1:56 pmBush and Cheney will be doing what with teens!!!!!
June 1st, 2007 at 1:56 pmJeez, Patrick, HE is your number 1? Not MLK, or Gandhi? Who’s your #2, Mussolini?
June 1st, 2007 at 1:56 pmDebate is healthy for The Party.
What about Nancy Pelosi’s approval ratings?
Uh …. what’s my third talking point?… umm… I got nothin’… (sigh)
June 1st, 2007 at 1:56 pmHow convenient that after enabling this president for 6 years, and obstructing any attempt to hold him accountable…these conservatives just now start to collapse. I’m sure the pending election has nothing to do with it.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:57 pmI’m doubting i’m a consrvative.I love Chimpy too much to leave him alone.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:57 pmHe’s still my No. 1 hero. Til death do us part. Comment by Patrick1
Heros fly thru the air and rescue people,,George just flys off Segways.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:58 pmLet’s bring on the Harris Poll people! Call Gallup! Hell, let’s even get Rasmussen on the job! Let’s see where this president stands with the American people!
Any bets he sinks below Carter and Nixon?
June 1st, 2007 at 1:59 pmHas the conservatives finally seen “The Light That Wasn’t There?” They should have–since Bush & Company have been BFL (Big, Fat Liars) from the start. What should have gave them (the Bush administration) away? Two things: Bush’s phony smile and what came out from that phony smile: “Ah is a Compassionate Conservative.” A contradiction in basic logic that everyone could see from the beginning but looked the other way instead. Dying in their sleep (the conservatives) was more preferable at the expense of the rest of Americans. And of America, as well.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:59 pmChris: “True conservatives never liked Bush to begin with.”
Oh, give me a frickin break you weasel. The facts speak for themselves. At re-election time, some polls gave Bush over a 90% approval rating among Americans who called themselves “conservatives.” Right. I still remember how few conservatives would admit to having supported Richard Nixon. It’s the same pattern over and over because you people never change. You’re sociopaths.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:00 pmBushcrack is highly addictive
June 1st, 2007 at 2:00 pmI get it – if you think the President is ruining the country over Iraq you are an unpatriotric traitor, but if you think he’s ruining the country with immigration reform you are a true American.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:01 pmSo sad…..the whores are diseased.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:02 pmIs it really shocking that Patrick1 says he just can’t quit Bush?
Comment by Abby
Pee1 is a perfect example of the mentality that allows politicians to become so corrupt. They know there little groupies well, right Pee1?
June 1st, 2007 at 2:03 pmRats abandon ship
June 1st, 2007 at 2:08 pm“True conservatives” have been sucking Bush’s dick for the last 7 years and just now they’ve decided that they object to being called “c0cksuckers”.
Sorry boys (and girl-like beings), but no one stuffed anything into your mouths, you gobbled everything up willingly.
Welcome to accountability “true conservatives”.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:09 pmHow convenient that after enabling this president for 6 years, and obstructing any attempt to hold him accountable…these conservatives just now start to collapse. I’m sure the pending election has nothing to do with it.
Pending election? It’s 17 months away….by that logic, with 24 months between elections, there is always one “pending”.
It has nothing to do with 2008; people aren’t happy with immigration amnesty. Well, Ted Kennedy is, but he doesn’t count.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:10 pmTrue conservatives never liked Bush to begin with.
Comment by Chris L — June 1, 2007 @ 1:52 pm
Yeah but you wimps STILL supported him! You keep towing the line even though you know he is a CRIMINAL and his EVERY action flies in the face of your pary ideals!
June 1st, 2007 at 2:12 pmGeez, you are TO BLAME you so called “true conservatives” who have continued to support him regardless of the enormous costs to the American people.
had you shown some backbone maybe we would have avoided some of the tragedies and this UNJUST WAR
True conservatives never liked Bush to begin with.
Assuming that is true and I don’t it didn’t stop them from voting for him twice.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:13 pmIt has nothing to do with 2008; people aren’t happy with immigration amnesty. Well, Ted Kennedy is, but he doesn’t count.
Comment by m12
I recall that…. George and Vicente holding hands over this issue. George wanted oil and Vicente wanted no fingerprints for the illegals.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:14 pmHey m12, did you know Kennedy co-wrote the no child left behind act? HAH!!
I’m not accepting the Conservative effort to dismiss the failure of the Bush regime on incompetence. It’s a direct result of Conservative ideology put into practice, not incompetence. If you really look at it, the Bush regime has been highly effective at implementing a Conservative agenda. Their plan is to place the government in such dire debt as to make it incapable of fulfilling any social needs. They are also deliberately undermining public confidence in government to “prove” that it can’t provide effective solutions to social/economic problems and that those things are best privatized. Didn’t anybody bother to listen to Grover Norquist when he said they wanted to shrink government to a size that they could drown in a bathtub? Driving up the national debt is a key element in that strategy. Don’t let Republicans off the hook by claiming that Bush is not a real Conservative. The inevitable result of Conservative ideology put into practice is rampant corruption, deliberate malfeasance, government that doesn’t work, wars without end and a justifiably angry populace. The outrageousness and criminality of the Bush regime is not the failure of an individual or a small group of neo-cons, it’s the massive catastrophic effect of an entire misguided ideology. Conservatism is headed for the dustbin of history where it belongs with other totalitarian ideologies. Don’t let the right wing resurrect it with a new face.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:16 pmSnowball | Homepage | 03.26.07 – 9:21 pm
Is this why Republicans are afraid to say “McCain-Kennedy Immigration Bill”? You know, John McCain, U.S. Senator, big Iraq War supporter… anyone?
June 1st, 2007 at 2:16 pmGREAT news. Isn’t it wonderful watching the family values Repugnicans eating their own?? Its unfortunate they have had so much success in destroying the country and its formerly good name over the last six years by shoving their ideology down everyone’s throats. But as the old adage goes, “the only thing constant in nature is change.” Its good to see Repugs changing their ways. .finally
Wait. Whats that I hear?? Sounds like teeth munching on the leg bone of a chimp. Sweet!
June 1st, 2007 at 2:16 pmm12 is once again wrong. Here’s Levin’s blog:
The President Is Losing Me
I guess it’s legacy time over at the White House. The president is imitating Arnold Schwarzenegger now. Does the president have any conservative domestic initiatives that he’s actively pursuing? If so, I’d like to know what they are. Richard Nixon tried this when his ratings were low. It didn’t work.
Mr. President, the Left hated you the day you walked into the Oval Office, if not before. Their hate for you is frozen in time. If you actually believe in what you are doing, then I and many others misjudged you. You expanded the federal role in education, and we held our nose because of the war. You signed McCain-Feingold in the dead of night, and we held our nose because of the war. You expanded Medicare by adding prescription drugs, and we held our nose because of the war. You increased farm subsidies, and we held our nose because of the war.
Today you disparage us for opposing a massive amnesty program that endangers our economy and national security. Today you even embrace the religion of global warming, a stunning shift from prior policy (your administration even went to the Supreme Court and argued correctly that carbon dioxide is not a pollutant).
What’s a conservative to do?
05/31 03:40 PM
As you can see above it’s a lot more than immigration that has this conservative fed up and ready to feed on the lame duck.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:17 pmSo they’ll agree to appear as witnesses before the Bush Truth and Reconciliation Commission, to confess their offenses against the country? Dandy.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:18 pmLOL
“people aren’t happy with immigration amnesty”
shorter version:
us redneck racists hate dem brown people and wur SKERD!
you are SUCH WIMPS, no wonder Bush’s idiot fear mongering works on you!
Quick! Git yer gun!
YOU are the true terrorists! We don’t have to worry about them “following us home”
we see the terroristns alright and they are YOU.
criminals one and all, not a shred of integrity amongst you. In the name of Christ you violated EVERY law in this country and have taken your sick Christianista views and ILLEGALLY placed them in our govt.
We are handing out the GO TO JAIL cards
daily, another one bits the dust, ah, finally, the freight train of JUSTICE is heading your way.
the entire world of SANE people agree,
then there is the 28% of YOU
wonder who will win?
June 1st, 2007 at 2:20 pmConservatives need to be tied to this putrid Reichwing corpse and left to slowly rot in the desert never to rise again.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:22 pmFurther proof that Bush is . . ‘A uniter, not a divider’ !
June 1st, 2007 at 2:23 pmWelcome back! During late 2004, a report from this organization basically said the Adamoff ethics situation was a Republican ethics problem. Back then the Republicans were desperately trying to wrap their arms the Democrats and pull them into the ethics MUCK.
But afterwards there seemed to be a change in strategy/heart and the National Review was back strongly in the Republican camp.
Welcome back National Review. The Country, not the Party is supreme.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:24 pmHey m12, did you know Kennedy co-wrote the no child left behind act? HAH!!
Yeah, I did. Probably why it was such a bad bill.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:24 pm#31 by Abby: You are soooo right on the money! That’s why Bush & Company soooo gotta be stop! Good work, Abby
June 1st, 2007 at 2:29 pmBush is a liberal haven’t you heard? Sully has been pushing this meme for a while. Count on the Repulsive Noise Machine to pick this up and expand on it over the next year. “How the Liberals and Comrade Bush Hijacked the Republican Party” will be a best seller in 18 months.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:29 pmThe only way Republicans can salvage their party is impeachment…
June 1st, 2007 at 2:29 pmDavid Frum says ‘It’s Divorce,’ !! 8-0
And like any divorce, by the time it happens, people outside the drama are very bored with it.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:29 pmNo 39,
Sorry for the incorrect spelling. The correct spelling is Abramoff. The reference was to Mr. Abramoff.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:32 pm‘The President is Losing Me’…
Let me set this straight,
‘The President Has Lost It’
Da Gig’s Up, Bushie.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:34 pmTime to give back your toys & move to Paraguay.
You speak great Spanish, so I’m sure you’ll fit right in.
m12 is still pretty sure he’s right about everything. Strange.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:37 pmMr. President, the Left hated you the day you walked into the Oval Office, if not before. Their hate for you is frozen in time. If you actually believe in what you are doing, then I and many others misjudged you. You expanded the federal role in education, and we held our nose because of the war.
I don’t know where the Conservatives get this liberal BDS. I live in Texas and I can tell you George was not a good governor. Many of us were glad to see him go, that does not mean I hate the man, I don’t, it means we were not confident in him as a leader.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:39 pmClinton did it too
June 1st, 2007 at 2:40 pmWow De Javu….it sounds just like when the left wing left me….
I know Bush, it is tough, take it from me. I was there once, but if you lie ennough and you make up things about what you did and didn’t do in office and have the American media shove it down the throats of the easily fooled Americans….well, you will become a great legend, you will be a hero, you will be a gooood.
Just look at me, my Presidency was a failure, but no matter where I go, the easily fooled minds of hte world love me, adore me, worship me.
so easy to fool people, so easy.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:41 pmDon’t ask the disgruntled party members to “really” do something about it though ….. they won’t.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:41 pmm12 is still pretty sure he’s right about everything. Strange.
Comment by Bluedog49
m12 is about as clever as the clap is funny.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:41 pm“Is the Bush Administration a Democratic Sleeper Cell?” – this is an acttual diary posted at redstate.com. Basic point is that wingers let Bush slide on all sorts of “anti-conservative” policies, but now with the immigration bill they are having buyer’s remorse. Babies.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:42 pmMark Levin says ‘The President is Losing Me.‘â€
Gee, Mark, what do you think will finally push you over the edge? Pfft. What tepid little souls, Bush’s war was a big winner, they loved his domestic eavesdropping program, but the immigration bill was a dud — and STILL they can’t manage to divorce him.
Wimps.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:46 pmEvidently, “President Clinton” thinks the American media was on his side. Yikes. That kind of delusion is hard to explain in any way other than pathological.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:49 pmDavid Frum says ‘It’s Divorce,’ !! 8-0
And like any divorce, by the time it happens, people outside the drama are very bored with it.
Comment by Miro
Zing!!!
June 1st, 2007 at 2:52 pmPatty the Troll is married to Chimpy.
But that figures, Chimpy is queer and so is the troll.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:59 pmpres clinton
ah but that is where you are wrong. His presidency WAS NOT a failure, in fact the opposite is true, it was a resounding success.
Democrats are smart enough to recognize his PERSONAL and MARITAL failures and separate that from his Presidency, something you clowns can’t seem to do.
To you lying about a blow job is the same as lying about a TREASONOUS ACT
no wonder your party has disintegrated
June 1st, 2007 at 3:03 pmThe Rats Are Leaving The Sinking Chimp!!
June 1st, 2007 at 3:08 pmWe have Bush bunkering in at the Whitehouse, rambling like Whitney Huston on a crack binge. We have the Republican party imploding and banging on the bunker doors screaming let me in. We have the Democrats that could have been on there way to stopping this war cave to the crazy guy in the bunker. This is going to be a long hot summer.
June 1st, 2007 at 3:16 pmBush is doing his Nixon imitation.
notice how he’s aged DRAMATICALLY in the last month?
he needs to RESIGN NOW
June 1st, 2007 at 3:21 pmTo survive as a political party and for the sake of our democracy,, the Republicans will totally disavow and punish the neo cons who have stolen their party and this countries democracy with the most cynical and apparent disdain for basic rights ,here ….or abroad .Neo conservativism must die a permanent death ,NOW !
.The deaths of 3/4 of a million to satisfy the wet dreams of the oil executives who project AmeriKKKan power at the expense and misery of millions ,as dwindling oil supplies and exploding demand collide , we are told that it would be a good idea to have a Korean style military presence in Iraq indefinitely , big surprise !
4 million refugees living in fear and hopelessness is a small price to pay for Americans right to drive large gas guzzling pick ups and SUV’s ,without regard for either the environment or the reality of diminishing oil .
Compassionate conservatism ?
June 1st, 2007 at 3:25 pmCreating enemies abroad,
one dead family member at a time ,
Torturing world opinion in secret prisons ,
spying on it’s constituency for their own safety !
pres clinton
ah but that is where you are wrong. His presidency WAS NOT a failure, in fact the opposite is true, it was a resounding success.
Democrats are smart enough to recognize his PERSONAL and MARITAL failures and separate that from his Presidency, something you clowns can’t seem to do.
To you lying about a blow job is the same as lying about a TREASONOUS ACT
no wonder your party has disintegrated
Comment by justice — June 1, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
and this is the problem with my sycophant followers, with individuals like justice who believe I was a good President and succesful.
son, let me in on a secret, my Presidency was a failure….but shhhhhhhh, don’t say it too loud, ok?
1) WTC bombing in 1993, what did I do to capture Bin Laden after we found out that the culprits were involved with him?
2) 1996 Bin Laden declares war on America and calls America a paper tiger, I was in power. What did I do to capture him?
3) 1996 American base in Saudi Arabia is hit by Al Qaeda, what did I do to capture Bin Laden?
4) 1998 Two American embassies are bombed and destroyed by Al Qaeda, hundreds die, what did I do to capture Bin Laden?
5) 2000 the USS Cole is hit, 20 navy personell die, what did I do to capture the culprits, Al Qaeda and Bin Laden?
6) I promised America that if I was voted into office I would never, ever push or sign into low the don’t ask don’t tell policy in the military. I signed this bill into law.
7) People claim that me doing interns did not affect my Presidency, ,sorry kid, I was more worried about chasing a skirt than keeping America safe.
8) I lied and people died, Americans died. I was more worried about my image, my superficial image and what the world would think of me. I didn’t care about keeping America save.
9) The .com bubble bursted while I was in office, the NASDAQ and the DOW both drop dramatically while I was in office.
10) Gas prices were under the rise while I was in office.
11) Bin Laden was planning 9/11 while I was in office.
can you please tell me again, your President, my sycophant follower, how my Presidency was a success?
and stop talking to me as if i were a Republican, don’t insult me, or i’ll pimp slap you.
June 1st, 2007 at 3:27 pmyou are such a consummate idiot.
If Bush had utilized the system Clinton LEFT FOR HIM regading binLaden and the issue of terror, we wouldn’t be IN THIS MESS.
again typical neocon, you leave out the key pertinent facts
June 1st, 2007 at 3:30 pmI think Bush is on a personal mission to piss off every single person in this country!
June 1st, 2007 at 3:34 pmIts amazing how he betrays everyone at some point or another! The devotees have loved him with a passion. They have stood by him and justified everything , the failed war, torture, illegal wire tapping, katrina, attorney firings. If there was a video showing Bush personally torturing muslims they would have loved him even more!
But he has even managed to loose this crowd! And it couldn’t have happened to a nicer bunch of people!
Hmmm—Maybe he does need to make that video.
I think Bush is on a personal mission to piss off every single person in this country!
comment by Aji
the country? How about the WORLD?
June 1st, 2007 at 3:36 pmhe has no regard for anyone in any country!
The Prez here is pissed. He just can’t pass over. Bill hasn’t been President for some time now. A whole world of hate has festered under the current holder of office and while it’s always fun to stroll down memory lane, I’m going to concern myself with the events of the day like election fraud, the dumbest AG ever, conservatives eating their own and the continued disaster in Iraq.
Too bad some people are stuck in the past.
June 1st, 2007 at 3:36 pmTrue conservatives never liked Bush to begin with.
Comment by Chris L
Ummm, so why’d they vote for him???
June 1st, 2007 at 3:45 pmPoor chymp, deserted by his former faithful slavishly devoted cultists.
June 1st, 2007 at 3:58 pmOn second thought, fu(k him, his unbalanced, delusional personality made this outcome inevitable. The only part of messianic he got right was the mess.
Okay, conservatives don’t like Bush’s immigration policy. How do you feel about the Democratic Congress support for war funding? Sweet. Are they on a mission to piss off every single person? So why did you vote for them? Are democratic mice fleeing their sinking ship? Is the democratic party self-distructing? Should they resign now?
You are consumed with your need for Bush failure. It’s fun to watch you pinning you hopes on some kind of administration catastrophe that has to has to happen within the next 18 months to validate you. You pray for an impeachment that you can’t deliver, anxiously relate the latest war dead, report as news any negative gossip of Bush or anyone he’s ever been associated with; all for the hopes that what? He won’t be elected president again?
My progressive friends, please continue to use all your political capital to bring this evil dictator to justice. (so you won’t have any left to further any more of your insane social agenda).
June 1st, 2007 at 4:14 pmNow, 6 YEARS into his administration, and suddenly, “conservatives” no longer like Bush??? WTF? For 6 LONG YEARS he could do no wrong, and now, all of a sudden, it’s time for a divorce?
Not so fast, conservatives: Bush, and his administration are the flowering of the conservative movement. Our current situation IS the direct result of applied conservative “principles” in action! Yes sir, with conservatives in charge of the government, it just doesn’t get any better than this! The problem that conservatives face is that most of the swing voters have started connecting the dots on Mr. Bush and his conservative “principles” and they aren’t happy. Apparently, the prospect of becoming a permanent minority party in 2008 — as the result of conservatives being in power — has the likes of K-Lo, Frum and Levin losing sleep.
Not to worry! The “solution” is at hand: “real” conservatives will throw Bush under the bus — without actually throwing him under the bus — and pretend that his corrupt and incompetent misadministration was some sort of anomaly and quickly anoint another “real” conservative to take Bush’s place — just in time for the next election.
Oh yeah, meet the new boss, same as the old boss — only, this one’s a “real” conservative? No, thanks.
Sorry, but the Republican party’s steadfast support for endless war, tax cuts for people who don’t need them, corrupt and unaccountable government, and policies designed to screw working people have already rendered this ridiculous little PR offensive null and void for anyone with an IQ above room temperature. But that group does not include the 28% of moron-Americans who see Mr. Bush’s business friendly immigration bill as a stab in the back. You know, the racist, xenophobes that constitute the vast majority of the Republican party’s base.
June 1st, 2007 at 4:32 pmhttp://harpers.org/archive/2007/05/hbc-90000176
Black Helped Frum Stay in the Black
Ken Silverstein
Harper’s
May 29, 2007
I recently obtained financial records that showed that in late 2000 David Frum, the former speechwriter for President Bush, received monthly payments of $16,667 from Conrad Black’s Hollinger International. Black, the media magnate, is currently on trial for fraud and racketeering in Chicago. Prosecutors allege he used Hollinger as his personal “piggy bankâ€; he and three co-defendants are charged with stealing $60 million from the company . A 2004 report by Richard Bredeen, done at the request of Hollinger’s board, said Black displayed “no need to distinguish between what belonged to the company and what belonged to the Blacks.â€
In the overall scheme of things the combined sums were relatively small, but I was curious for a number of reasons. First, it wasn’t clear what Frum did for the payments. Second, Frum has publicly defended Black against charges that he misused Hollinger money and yet has never, as far as I can tell, acknowledged that he received money from Hollinger. Third, Black is accused of misspending shareholder money and any payments from Hollinger to Frum, a long-time friend of Black’s, should only have been made for sound professional reasons.
So yesterday I sent Frum an e-mail to ask about the money. He replied online, writing that the payments—which were made between September and December of 2000, and were halted when Frum went to work for the administration—were “to help develop a new Internet publication for Hollinger.†(He didn’t say whether this publication ever came to fruition.)
“I have repeatedly referred in this space and elsewhere,†wrote Frum, “to my long professional association with Conrad Black.†He wrote that the consulting fees he charged Hollinger “were in line with what I have charged other clients for similar work,†and that disclosures “can easily become silly and pedantic. Do I really have to mention that I used to write speeches for George W. Bush every time I write about him?
I’m emphatically not suggesting Frum did anything wrong in taking money from Hollinger, but I do think he should have disclosed the payments. No, he doesn’t need to mention that he was a former Bush speechwriter every time he writes about the president because his work for Bush is common knowledge (and only a Wikipedia search away). But when Frum defends Black on charges that he misspent Hollinger money, I believe he should acknowledge that he was a recipient of Hollinger largesse to the tune of $16,667 a month. That’s a relevant fact beyond any professional or personal relationship the two men had, particularly in the context of Frum’s commentary on the ongoing trial.
The payments are also noteworthy because they are typical of the way that Black spent shareholder money on whatever suited his fancy. I asked a former Hollinger employee about Frum’s explanation of the payments. “If there was a good idea for an Internet publication that would make money, there’s no issue,†she replied. “The trouble for all of us was there were no business plans for any of these ‘internet investments.’ The accountants would ask us for contracts, paperwork, backup, prospectuses, the things you would have in hand before you send large sums of money to someone. These business niceties never existed. So, yes, it could have been a legitimate business consulting fee, though the business was never described or explained to those doing the funding, in the office, or to the shareholders whose money it was.â€
June 1st, 2007 at 5:27 pmA quick look at the conservative trolls around here yields nams like “Captain Mantastic”, “Bottomboy”, “MAF54″ etc.
I’ve asked this question before and trust me, I’m not a gay-basher at all, but why is the current conservative movement so gay? Considering the political record and stands our conservative leaders take these days, it just seems very strange.
June 1st, 2007 at 5:38 pmBush shows signs of thinking he’s the second coming of Christ. He “knows” that he’s right, and would sacrifice everything and everyone in America to prove it. Eighteen months of hell for us on earth,is nothing to the eternity that Bush will serve in the fires for eternity. Look at his eyes when he speaks. He looks like he’s possessed. The Republicans are just now realizing that their party will be in the wilderness for decades after Bush. Don’t believe those mea culpas for a minute.
June 1st, 2007 at 6:46 pmI’ve asked this question before and trust me, I’m not a gay-basher at all, but why is the current conservative movement so gay? Considering the political record and stands our conservative leaders take these days, it just seems very strange.
Comment by Bluedog49
Stupid question asshat.
June 1st, 2007 at 7:10 pm…Conservatives are America’s Taliban/al Qaeda…
…they are America’s racists, sexists, homophobes, xenophobes, and democracy haters…
…they HATE American freedom, diversity, tolerance, the pursuit of happiness…
…jurisprudence, and the rule of law…
…the conservative movement and its adherents must be DESTROYED…
…lest America perish…
June 1st, 2007 at 10:16 pmGet real. The distancing from Bush is no surprise. The same criminals are wiping their hands clean on Bush and embracing the “new” face of [the same old neo-con corpo-theofascism] monster. Look at it as a new prow on the same old vessel.
Cheney and Rumsfeld and all those heckuva guys have been around, without being punished for past misdeeds, what, forever. They’ll be back in 2008.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:55 amWho turned off the Kool-Aid spigot?
This is going to be fun to watch. Conservatives have their knickers in a twist because 2008 is an election year. Get the popcorn ready!
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:14 pm