House stem cell measure to trigger veto fight.
By on Jun 1st, 2007 at 8:00 pm
House stem cell measure to trigger veto fight.
“The House plans to trigger another veto showdown with President Bush this week by clearing legislation that would expand federally funded embryonic stem cell research.”
Bush has vowed to veto the measure (S 5), just as he did similar legislation last July 19. A veto override attempt in the House that same day fell 51 votes short of the two-thirds majority required.
The Senate passed the stem cell bill by a 63-34 vote April 11. After accounting for absentees that day, Senate supporters of the measure calculate that they are one vote short of being able to override a veto.
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W is the anti-life President!
June 1st, 2007 at 8:20 pmBush vetos anything having to do with saving lives, giving soldiers pay raises, or helping the environment.
June 1st, 2007 at 8:30 pmbut he’s “prolife”
June 1st, 2007 at 8:52 pmAfter Bush vetoes the bill, then the Democrats will fail to override it.
June 1st, 2007 at 9:08 pm#3 – justice,
June 1st, 2007 at 9:11 pmHe is only prolife for those in the womb, somtimes.
only one vote short, Jay.
we can hope ONE person comes to their senses and then we override the veto
June 1st, 2007 at 9:13 pmjustice > if 67 Senators vote to override Bush’s veto, then I would be amazed, because that requires at least 16 to 17 GOPer Senators to buck Bush. I wish that 17 GOPer Senators would back impeachment of Bush and Cheney.
June 1st, 2007 at 9:20 pmRepublican candidates just had a debate in which they tried to “out-Reagan” each other. Bush seems determined to do it even worse-his backward thinking will doom many more to the disease that afflicted Reagan.
June 1st, 2007 at 9:20 pmSure, Bush is pro-life…. When it is a clump of cells….. After that, you’re on your own.
Go for it, guys. Dare him to veto it again.
Speaking of respect for human life — have you heard of Bush’s recent meeting with several deceased soldiers’ families? He gave them each a “presidential coin.” He couldn’t define the mission.
June 1st, 2007 at 9:26 pmOne mother described him as incredibly insensitive.
Good! Demonstrate that he is yet again acting in defiance of a majority of Americans! Then send him the damned thing again! He is a CHILD doing an adult’s job! Time to start hacking away at the 28%ers!
June 1st, 2007 at 9:39 pmWhat a tool. Someday he’ll need that research….
June 1st, 2007 at 9:52 pmmarie
and even worse, he only had enough coins for SOME of the parents of lost soldiers and so he asked them NOT TO TELL the other parents he gave them one and not to “sell it on eBay” he is such scum
anyone willing to vote no on this issue should have to attend mandatory hearings with Americans who desperately need it.
June 1st, 2007 at 9:58 pmWhat else is new? Bush is a moron who has no knowledge and/or understanding of science and has no intention of learning any of it. Most Repulicans are similarly uneducated and stupid.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:00 pmSome day, stem cell research may lead to people re-growing lost limbs.
But, for Bush and his Pro-Life Base, ’tis better to throw away blastocytes than use them to improve the lives of living, breathing human beings.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:00 pmHere in Pennsylvania, Bob Casey won Santorum’s senate seat, and he is a “no” vote “pro-life” Dem. He is a vote we have a chance of changing, and we’re doing everything we can to bring him to his senses. But you know how flexible these idiots can be…
I’m ashamed that the Dems couldn’t find a better candidate for senate. Just about any carbon-based life form could have beaten Santorum, as Casey proved…
PEACE
June 1st, 2007 at 10:08 pmBlastocysts the size of the period at the end of this sentence.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:36 pmWhy are Progressives so dead set on using government money to develop stem cell research drugs that will be privatized for the benefit of Big Pharma? And how many of you actually think you’ll be given access to these life saving miracle drugs? Already about 16% or more of Americans have no insurance and even those who do many have no quality healthcare despite having so-called insurance.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:36 pmShirley touches on something close to my heart.
When I was working on the Human Genome Project, Craig Ventor suddenly announced he could do it faster and cheaper.
Unfortunately, the catch was the patenting of genes. How the h*ll do you patent a gene?!!?
Is that ethical? Anyway, we ramped up production as best we could, because we sequenced the genes and sent the info out on the Internet for scientists to then work on.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:47 pmShirley, I’m going to assume you fell and hit your head when you wrote that post, because even you know the only reason Bush is against stem cells is because their potential for CURES threatens the current pharma-industry which based almost exclusively on treating only symptoms (for as long as the patient lives, if possible).
And we should be against these permanent CURES because…..16% of americans don’t have insurance???????
Again, I assume a head bump was involved when you typed that post.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:48 pmSome day, stem cell research may lead to people re-growing lost limbs.
But, for Bush and his Pro-Life Base, ’tis better to throw away blastocytes than use them to improve the lives of living, breathing human beings.
Use the blastocytes to your heart’s content. Just don’t use my tax dollars.
June 1st, 2007 at 11:23 pmWhat a tool. Someday he’ll need that research….
Comment by Zooey
I think he already does. He must be suffering from some type of dementia.
June 1st, 2007 at 11:38 pmUse the blastocytes to your heart’s content. Just don’t use my tax dollars.
Comment by m12
Your tax dollars. Like you pay in some big money, right trollie?
June 1st, 2007 at 11:41 pmI think he already does. He must be suffering from some type of dementia.
Comment by shane
Alcohol induced dementia….
June 1st, 2007 at 11:43 pmYour tax dollars. Like you pay in some big money, right trollie?
Maybe I do, maybe I don’t. Thanks to liberal tax laws, the bottom 50% of the nation only has to pay 3% of income taxes.
I guess some people are just lucky.
June 1st, 2007 at 11:57 pmMaybe I do, maybe I don’t. Thanks to liberal tax laws, the bottom 50% of the nation only has to pay 3% of income taxes.
I guess some people are just lucky.
Comment by m12
That’s becuse the bottom 50% of this country ARE THE POOR.
Woo hoo!! Totally lucky!
Idiot.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:04 amThat’s becuse the bottom 50% of this country ARE THE POOR.
Woo hoo!! Totally lucky!
Idiot.
They get an equal say despite contributing a far smaller amount to the federal treasury. What more do you want?
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:08 amwell, we know shirley isn’t sick with a life threatening illness that stem cell research has a chance of helping/curing!
you should have to live for some time on a transplant list. or have to face your sick child each day knowing she could be helped by stem cell research.
lucky you that these things haven’t touched your life shirley, and all you can think about is cost.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:10 amThey get an equal say despite contributing a far smaller amount to the federal treasury. What more do you want?
Comment by m12
What do I want? I want you to stop bitching about people who have so much less than most of us.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:16 amWhat do I want? I want you to stop bitching about people who have so much less than most of us.
Nobody is bitching, except shane here, who apparently is trying to bash me for being poor.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:23 amNobody is bitching, except shane here, who apparently is trying to bash me for being poor.
Comment by m12
Shane hasn’t been here for almost an hour. Quit whining, you’re not actually poor — you have a computer for f*ck’s sake.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:28 am“Use the blastocytes to your heart’s content. Just don’t use my tax dollars.
Comment by m12 — June 1, 2007 @ 11:23 pm”
Don’t plan on contracting Parkies, diabetes and a number of other diseases – you might want to save up for those back taxes, knobcheese.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:34 amHey m12, how about your tax dollars can build the embassy in Iraq and mine can go to stem cell research. How about that deal for ya?
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:36 amDon’t plan on contracting Parkies, diabetes and a number of other diseases – you might want to save up for those back taxes, knobcheese.
I don’t have to save up for anything. The state of California is happily funding this research for me.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:40 am“knobcheese”
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Heh. That’s hilarious.
Don’t tell me what it is…..please. :}
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:41 amHey m12, how about your tax dollars can build the embassy in Iraq and mine can go to stem cell research. How about that deal for ya?
Let’s be fair now. If we get to pick and choose, I’d like to opt out of Social Security and Medicare.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:41 amHey m12, how about your tax dollars can build the embassy in Iraq and mine can go to stem cell research. How about that deal for ya?
Comment by Bluedahlia
That’s a good idea, BD. I wish we could actually do that.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:42 amLet’s be fair now. If we get to pick and choose, I’d like to opt out of Social Security and Medicare.
Comment by m12
Well, when that time comes you can send your SS checks to the poor and elect to pay your own medical bills.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:45 amm12
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:46 am12 must be his IQ
I am glad you get the point. Finally. There is a hell of a lot more going on that us “liberals” would opt out of giving our money for our gov’t to spend than you wingers. The stuff you guys are spending our money on is insane……
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:48 amWell, when that time comes you can send your SS checks to the poor and elect to pay your own medical bills.
I’d gladly do that if I could. Put that same wasted money in bonds through your working years and you have yourself a small forture.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:50 am#38
I like it! Short, unoriginal, and with the wit of a preschooler.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:51 amI am glad you get the point. Finally. There is a hell of a lot more going on that us “liberals†would opt out of giving our money for our gov’t to spend than you wingers. The stuff you guys are spending our money on is insane……
I highly doubt that. The entire defense budget is a lot smaller than the Health and Human services department and the social security administration.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:54 amI’d gladly do that if I could. Put that same wasted money in bonds through your working years and you have yourself a small forture.
Comment by m12
Dude, I do both — except not bonds. Doesn’t hurt a bit.
June 2nd, 2007 at 1:04 amm12
As usual, you are once again spreading disinformation and lies. You should get your facts straight before you go spouting off. Here’s where our money is spent, asshat.
Defense past and present takes up the LARGEST PORTION of our budget of course. Get a clue or STFU
http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm
June 2nd, 2007 at 1:54 amSS and HHS is more that defense? That’s as good as your brain works? I’m a guy who has not worked since “03. I’m a Bush tax cut guy, are you? Hey if you’re rich climb aboard. If you have some job with no retirement you’re screwed. Screwed dumbass. Here’s a question; if you’re a poor hapless conservative worker what happens when you’re 50+ injured looking to support your family? I pay 994 dollars a month for health care. None of you right wing idiots had better not go to the ER with no insurance for your kids illnesses so I have to pay. Screw you and your kids. Read the Bible
June 2nd, 2007 at 5:00 amWhy is it that no one here is informed enough to know that all of the successful research utilizes adult stem cells, that embryonic stem cell research has not yielded one promising discovery or application and in fact has produced some seriously negative side effects?
Could it be that the facts don’t coincide with your prejudices?
Could it be that the true evil divulged here is ignorance?
Could it be possibly be, shocking as the thought may be to the exceedingly partisan lapdogs posting here, that President Bush is right to focus money on adult stem cell research?
Nah, I’m sure almost everyone here would rather continue in their ignorance rather then admit that perhaps the facts just don’t support their narrow minded views …
June 2nd, 2007 at 7:03 amI have Parkinson’s Disease. I believe stem cell research will eventually lead to a cure for this and other conditions.
Yet, if the Democrats show as much leadership and intestinal fortitude in standing up to Bush on stem cells as they did on ending the war…
…I think I’ll just buy a wheelchair NOW and avoid the rush.
June 2nd, 2007 at 7:55 amwhen you children grow up you will find that tough is not defined by how much you can put out but rather by how much that you can take .
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 amParky Bill if you bring a rope you won’t need a wheelchair
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:37 am