Libby wants probation (and maybe community service).
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Libby wants probation (and maybe community service).
Lawyers for Scooter Libby urged a federal judge today to “spare him from prison on his felony conviction for his role in a C.I.A. leak investigation,” recommending Libby “be given probation, possibly with community service, when he is sentenced on Tuesday.” Their court filing describing Libby begins, “Distinguished public servant. Generous mentor. Selfless friend.” Emptywheel has additional analysis.
UPDATE: Jeralyn has more.
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No give Libby 20 years hard labor. Reopen Alcatraz Island prison in California for him to serve his time alone with the giant wharf rats.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:10 amGot in a little hometime jam
So they put a rifle in my hand
Sent me off to a foriegn land
To go and kill the Muslim man
Good enough for the Boss, good enough for Scooter
June 1st, 2007 at 12:11 amOh, just give him the needle. It isn’t like he is ever going to make a contribution to society.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:13 amif libby doesn’t serve actual prison time, the message will be loud and clear… obstruction of justice and perjury at the highest levels of government is no more serious than shoplifting… our judicial system needs to rebuild a little credibility here, particularly after the revelations coming from the doj… da judge had better consider just how serious libby’s crimes really are…
June 1st, 2007 at 12:14 amAnd, yes, I DO take it personally
No. Felons do prison time.
He’s no “distinguished public servant,” he outed Valerie Plame Wilson and caused untold damage to national security.
I’ve gotta see those letters. :D
June 1st, 2007 at 12:15 amCommunity service?
How about in Iraq? Outside the green zone.
He can do PR work telling the Iraqis how wonderful their life is now that we deposed Saddam Hussein and gave them a democratic government.
His community service could be ordered to end the same day our occupation ends.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:17 amMe, personally, I’d like to see Libby do his time w/ “Bruno the Bootie Bandit” as his cellmate…
June 1st, 2007 at 12:18 amStatesville Prison in Illinois is the federal prison they send noncooperative felons to. You know, the ones who won’t flip on their cronies who committed more serious crimes. Scooter needs to go to Statesville until he flips on Rove and Cheney.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:19 amThis received an honorable mention in an on-line contest awhile back:
Posted by Briseadh na Faire at March 10, 2007 10:20 AM
June 1st, 2007 at 12:22 am“He’s a nice white boy from the power structure. We have an arrangement!”
If Paris Hilton (gag) can arrange for special treatment in the joint, even getting to pick her cellmate, we obviously must go easy on the Scooter. Like Paris, Scooter can work on his weight and cut back on the pancake makeup, thus cleaning up his skin.
All this sends a frisson of terror down the spines of Bill O and other members of the white male christian power structure. “WTF?!” they cry. “Jail time? No way. We’re the chosen ones!!!!!!”
June 1st, 2007 at 12:22 amFaire > if the Iraqis found out that Libby is Jewish, then he would not survive long outside of the Green Zone in Baghdad.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:23 amCheck out what Rummy feels about that!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/31/202330/640
Rumsfeld Want Scooter Punished Harshly
June 1st, 2007 at 12:23 amby Ronald England [Subscribe] [Edit Diary]
Thu May 31, 2007 at 08:12:27 PM EST
Rumsfeld statement on September 12, 2001 where Rumsfeld held a press briefing before going to the White House for a meeting with President Bush. During which he stated that all government workers should protect the Inteligence Information since:
Unfortunately Shane, Libby will go to Club Fed. He will be playing tennis while we slave away at our jobs.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:24 am“Distinguished public servant. Generous mentor. Selfless friend.â€
Actually Libby is a TRAITOR pure and simple. We executed the Rosenbergs back in the communist scare days, and I believe that execution is the appropriate punishment for being a traitor to your country.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:25 am“if libby doesn’t serve actual prison time, the message will be loud and clear… obstruction of justice and perjury at the highest levels of government is no more serious than shoplifting”
What about the message that has already been given. You can out a covert CIA agent and suffer NO consequences for what you did. That’s the precedent that scares me to death.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:26 amComment by Briseadh na Faire — June 1, 2007 @ 12:22 am
Heh. Nice one. :-D
June 1st, 2007 at 12:26 ammy favourite comment about this mess was bill maher saying”….patriotism is supporting your country all the time and the government when it deserves it.valerie plame is a patriot because she devoted her life to serving her country – scooter libby is not because he devoted his life to serving dick cheney….” – what these guys did amounts to treason surely? – i thought that was punishable by death
June 1st, 2007 at 12:32 amLike Paris, Scooter can work on his weight and cut back on the pancake makeup, thus cleaning up his skin
Comment by gummitch — June 1, 2007 @ 12:22 am
Maybe Scooter needs a “Brazillian wax” like Paris gets to make his prison mates happier.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:33 amUnfortunately Shane, Libby will go to Club Fed. He will be playing tennis while we slave away at our jobs.
Comment by JPark
Still, there is no such thing as a good prison. The important thing is you can’t leave when you want to.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:35 amWhile I agree with that, Shane, I would love the idea of Libby dropping the soap in a federal penitentiary.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:38 amConsidering that he should probably be hung for treason, I think that he’s getting off easy with just a prison sentence.
But he’ll probably get off the hook anyway. The US government is absolutely corrupt and out of control. These guys will never pay for their crimes.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:38 amWhile I agree with that, Shane, I would love the idea of Libby dropping the soap in a federal penitentiary.
Comment by JPark
Well that would be even better, if he got his “wax job” from his fellow prisoners.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:44 amfor comparision’s sake:
Martha Stewart went to trial and was convicted in March 2004 on four counts of lying to investigators and obstruction of justice.
She was sentenced to 5 months in prison. The underlying investigation was an insider trading charge which netted Ms. Stewart all of about $45,000.
Here, Scooter Libby played a part in outing a CIA operative who was involved in tracking WMD’s. Her brass-plate front company, Brewster Jennings, was outed as well. The net loss to taxpayers for losing this operation is easily in the millions of dollars. And we will never know how many people (contacts and/or agents) were subsequently murdered because of this orchestrated disclosure of our under cover agent and operation.
It will be interesting to see how the balance of Justice will weigh the relative merits of these two cases. One the one hand, a relatively small amount, for insider trading. On the other, the destruction of our ability to track international trafficking in weapons of mass destruction, at a time when such tracking was of utmost importance in the lead-up to war based, in large part, on allegations of weapons of mass destruction.
Libby played a part in causing a war that cost hundreds of thousands of human lives. That, some people believe, defines him as a “Distinguished public servant.”
Oh well, Hitler handed out numerous awards, too.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:46 amOT.Sorry……Landed.Lady Z,Drop me an email..Blessings….
June 1st, 2007 at 12:47 amWill do, Great Lady. :)
Briseadh na Faire — Check your email, please.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:55 amI predict that the judge goes with Fitz recommendation, 30-37 months. The big question is whether Libby will be granted bail pending appeal.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:07 amVerbal, I am quite sure nobody gets bail after they are convicted (and waiting for appeal).
June 1st, 2007 at 1:09 amI predict that the judge goes with Fitz recommendation, 30-37 months. The big question is whether Libby will be granted bail pending appeal.
Comment by VerbalKint
I think the Judge will go along with Fitz recommendations, and I also think bail will be granted pending appeal. Scooter ain’t seeing the inside of a prison for a long time.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:11 amComment by Briseadh na Faire — June 1, 2007 @ 12:22 am
quatrain #7 uses “e’er” questionably, it doesn’t quite make sense the way you have it.
quatrain #8 features the word “nay” but again it is not a clear usage. “Nay” signifies a reformulation of a thought in stronger or more accurate words.
For example:
I feel good, nay, great when the sun shines.
In your poem you describe jail, but you do not reformulate any less accurate or weaker thought with your “nay”.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:11 am#28 Ok, Zoo, that is another person that thinks Libby gets bail. I may be wrong but a conviction means no bail. Appeals are post-conviction. I am pretty sure he has to start his sentence.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:13 amVerbal, I am quite sure nobody gets bail after they are convicted (and waiting for appeal).
Comment by JPark
It happens all the time, JPark, especially for the rich, white, and powerful.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:13 am#28 Ok, Zoo, that is another person that thinks Libby gets bail. I may be wrong but a conviction means no bail. Appeals are post-conviction. I am pretty sure he has to start his sentence.
Comment by JPark
You’re thinking of the “little people,” JPark. I betcha Scooter gets bail.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:15 amGoodnight all!
June 1st, 2007 at 1:17 amZoo, I don’t think it matters. If you are convicted of a crime you go to jail (or whatever the punishment is). The law doesn’t consider a possible appeal.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:18 amBail is a pre-trial thing.
Night Zoo.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:18 amZooey > the judge will be forced by public opinion to give Libby a prison sentence. Unfortunately at most 2 years, but more likely one year at a prison that has tennis courts and a pool. Cheney will also deposit several million dollars in a Swiss bank account to compensate Libby for taking the fall for him.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:21 amHe can go “Cheney” himself. He should be thankful that he probably won’t get what usually comes to being a traitor during wartime.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:49 amHow about:
“TREASONOUS perjurer and obstructor of jUSTICE”…
Bush 41 pardoned the Iran/Contra criminals and called them all
“patriots”.
I wonder how these EVIL, MURDEROUS CRIMINALS, if they are REALLY “religious”, think that God does NOT see all that they have done.
Arn Gunnutes
June 1st, 2007 at 1:55 amHe certainly distinguished himself. Convicted felon, porn hack, fetishist, conspirator to commit treason, member of the PINAC pioneers. It’s a resume that will land him a cush job when he gets out.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:00 amAppeals are post-conviction. I am pretty sure he has to start his sentence.
Comment by JPark — June 1, 2007 @ 1:13 am
Isn’t the sentancing phase after the conviction (Like a different day)? I don’t think it is uncommon for anyone to be called guilty and then return 2 months later for a sentence (Happened to Paris I believe). It wouldn’t be bail but it also wouldn’t be waiting in jail.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:07 amNot official by any means but here is an example on a non related case.
Looks like it’s up to the judge rather to take away bail after verdict and put you in custody or not. Based on how they feel the sentence will be.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0201/11/lkl.00.html
KING: Do you know what sentence you’re going to recommend?
COAKLEY: We do not at this time. I am not going to comment on that, because that hearing is on January 25, but we will consider based upon the jury’s verdict and sentencing guidelines what we feel is appropriate.
KING: And do you know why bail was rescinded and he was put into custody?
COAKLEY: Well, it is customary. And in Massachusetts at least, when there is a felony conviction, when we expect and presumably the judge did also, to give him a sentence of jail time, to revoke bail. The situation has changed, he’s now found guilty. And it’s somewhat a matter of course for that to have happened. There was no argument over that tonight.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:14 amIsn’t the sentancing phase after the conviction (Like a different day)? I don’t think it is uncommon for anyone to be called guilty and then return 2 months later for a sentence (Happened to Paris I believe). It wouldn’t be bail but it also wouldn’t be waiting in jail.
Yes, he will be sentenced NEXT WEEK.
For PERJURY and OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE in the case of the
Bush Administration EXPOSING A CIA COVERT SPY.
They have committed TREASON, and WILL be brought to JUSTICE…
And God has seen the MURDER they have committed…
June 1st, 2007 at 2:16 amCommunity service as “bitch” for cell block “H”…
June 1st, 2007 at 2:19 amHe chose to lie to a federal prosecutor instead of telling the truth. At issue was the betrayal of the identity a covert government agent in a time of war. What else does a judge need to know?
June 1st, 2007 at 2:34 amOK Libby…., but first you have to produce the goods on the entire Bush administration to ensure they are put away for good.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:53 amPERJURY and OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE . EXPOSING A CIA COVERT SPY. WE HAVE NEVER BEEN INFORMED IF ANY PERSON HAVE LOST THERE LIFE BUT I GUESS WILL NEVER KNOW. IF THE COURTS LET HIM OFF WITH PROBATION THE SHIT SHOULD HIT THE FAN.
June 1st, 2007 at 5:54 am“Extinguished pubic servile-felon. Genital-fixated mental-patient. Self-absorbed fiend.” = Scooter, the president-in-charge-of-Vice’s scooter-rooter boy.
June 1st, 2007 at 6:07 aminteresting, they cite all fo the “good work” and “public service” and warn of the damage this could do his career if he loses his license to practice LAW(?)….but Valerie Plame’s ruined career is not taken into account, guess because she’s a woman.
June 1st, 2007 at 6:43 amFunny, but I don’t feel like it would be a good thing if this guy WERE allowed to practice law. It would be pretty stupid to take any legal advice from a someone who just got himself convicted.
seeing as he did what President Clinton did, probation is probably to harsh a sentence.
June 1st, 2007 at 7:00 amPaul, you have forgotten, that Bill, like George, is a unitary executive and is above the law. See how this works?
Bush=above law=Clinton above law=Scooter not above law.
This is what happens when we give politiicans the rights of Kings. The unitasry executive doctrine needs to be trashed before it trashes America and it’s judicial system and the checks and balances.
June 1st, 2007 at 7:38 amSccoter will get a presidential pardon, just like Abrams did.
What I want to know is what is at the core of these guys game? Surely they aren’t still playing the ‘great game’ of Empire buidling in this day and age when Empire Building is so passe. Surely even the cold war warriors (Cheney etc) realize that the world is much smaller today and Empire building is a thing of the past and will create more problems than it could solve.
We no longer live in the days of Rome it’s time to start acting like it,
June 1st, 2007 at 7:49 amScooter did nothing wrong. I have a bad memory so I hope I never have to go in front of a prosecutor. It was common knowledge Plame was CIA. EVERYBODY knew it around Washington. Her own husband would introduce her as my little agent. This was a witch hunt and he should get at the MOST, probation. It is like as soon as one good guy gets knocked down they go after another of the presidents soldiers in this war on terror. Now it is Gonzales. Once they get him who next?
June 1st, 2007 at 8:32 amLeave it to a noecon to compare a blow job to the outing of a covert CIA agent!
June 1st, 2007 at 8:35 amWill you trolls stop receiving your news exclusively from Fox? You may learn a thing or two about what is actually happening in our government.
Idiot – the CIA has said that Plame was covert. The theory that everyone in DC know she was CIA has been debunked.
Get your collective heads out of O’lielly’s and Limballs a*ses and learn something!!
I am so tired of moronic trolls. I really wish KKKarl could find a group with an intellect greater than my sophmores!!
June 1st, 2007 at 8:39 amComment by paul — June 1, 2007 @ 7:00 am
Please cite the court case. Oh, wait. You can’t, because there wasn’t any.
June 1st, 2007 at 8:42 amI doubt that Libby will be given any prison. Judge Walton is up for a cushy government job (I believe it is on the FISA court) and if he gives Libby jail time, I’m fairly sure they will withdraw their offer. Actually, I think that Judge Walton should recurse himself from the sentencing due to the fact that he now has a conflict of interest with this government job waiting for him.
June 1st, 2007 at 8:47 amthat’s right, just repeating the same falsehoods over and over and over makes them true….”he is guilty of the same as Clinton, but Clinton gets a pass” BS. Again, as if Clinton lying about marital infidelity is in the same ballpark as Scooter’s continuing obstruction of justice in protecting his superiors from TREASON AGAINST THE COUNTRY. I for one am sick to death of the condescension shown THE MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC in an effort to cover up their fear and paranoia of being marginalized as the Neanderthals they are.
June 1st, 2007 at 8:47 amernest paulson
Obviously you know nothing about it if you think all he did was “forget” something.
Do yourself a favor and actually learn the facts before you go making ridiculous statements like this, you make yourself look like a fool.
The man is a TRAITOR and he didn’t “forget” he LIED, his LIES were to COVERUP the TREASON that Dick Cheney had committed in outing a NOC.
geez, you neocons are blind to the truth and WILLINGLY support criminals, in this case a CONVICTED criminal all for what? Partisan support? You should not care which party they are, you should only care that he is a TRAITOR and a CONVICTED FELON
June 1st, 2007 at 8:51 amComment by Mr. President — June 1, 2007 @ 1:11 am
It’s ok, Mr. President, I’ve had a “Poetic License” ever since the mid 1980’s.
E’er is a poetic substitute for “when ever”
and the poetic response to “nay” is in the final quatrain.
June 1st, 2007 at 8:51 am“Distinguished public servant. Generous mentor. Selfless friend”
Um, no. Let’s try:
“Undifferentiated private servant. Greedy mole. Selfish fiend.”
June 1st, 2007 at 8:53 amIt was common knowledge Plame was CIA. EVERYBODY knew it around Washington.
No, she had a simple cover job at the CIA that people knew of, but not of what her real covert job was.
Can you understand that and why the CIA would give a covert person a desk job cloak to keep her work secret?
June 1st, 2007 at 8:56 amCommunity service?! For TREASON?!!
June 1st, 2007 at 9:00 amHow ’bout we lock up the Scootster with Robert Novak for a couple of years.
The Scootster would have to listen to that retarded Bullfrog read Reagan’s memoirs 24/7.
Yeah, now that’s punishment!
June 1st, 2007 at 9:09 ampaul obviously doesn’t comprehend how covert spies operate. He also doesn’t seem to grasp that outting her and her cover company had a MAJOR, DEVASTATING impact on our ability to PROTECT our COUNTRY.
You neocons are the BIGGEST threat our country faces. Islamic terrorists are a piece of CAKE compared to you treasonous bastids. You are all criminals supporting this criminal cabal that is masquerading as an “administration”
personally I think Judge Walton will give him the time Fitz asked for. I pray that he does NOT allow him to remain out on bail pending his appeal and drag his ass to jail from the court room.
Read Walton’s comments in his communique released this week, he is NOT taking this lightly and is cognizent of the “underlying” crimes that form the foundation of his conviction.
June 1st, 2007 at 9:10 amI think that Scooter should get the Same Punishment as I did , Hey He Did’nt even Lie to a Grand Jury Like I did , hehehe y’a know a Sax makes a pretty good Pipe .
June 1st, 2007 at 9:28 amthis is their problem, they can’t comprehend the difference between lying about a marital indiscretion vs lying that threatens our NATIONAL SECURITY.
June 1st, 2007 at 9:55 amYou clowns in charge of national security is what has gotten us to this point, which is to the BRINK OF DISASTER. Thanks to you idiots we are in FAR more danger now than we were the day after 9/11 and we have done NOTHING to avenge 9/11 because you clowns are too stupid for words.
No wonder the man you so blindly defend thinks you are STUPID. You are. You can’t seem to even string an intelligent thought together and see that every thing Bush has done has moved us CLOSER to disaster and increased the TERROR THREATS to our nation!
We need some intelligent DEMOCRATS who will use tools that WORK like diplomacy and negotiation to decrease our vulnerability.
Negotiate with terrorists. I want to see that. I hope Pelosi and Reid fly over there and start right away. Have you ever thought, as bad as the CIA was, getting rid of Plame may have been a good thing for the country. I mean the CIA has made a mess of things all the way down to “Slam Dunk”. Some of you continue to say our beloved Vice President was involved but there is no proof HE committed a crime. Joe Wilson says the Vice Presidents office sent him to Niger to investigate and the truth is Cheney didn’t send him. Cheney had to set the record straight, letting people know the truth. His office was not involved in the decision to send Joe Wilson! So Joe Wilson was or is the liar here. If he would have just stated he was sent to Niger as an assignment this would have never happened. You guys want to throw out the best warriors this country has ever had and call them “cherry pickers”. The fact is the problem is the defeatist congress and the CIA’s dismal work. It is not the Presidents fault, he has to work with what he has, not what he wants!
June 1st, 2007 at 10:20 amWhat do you care ?
If you don’t give enough of a toss to actually notice what action the US took in response to 9/11 it’s not as though your opinion on whether this was sufficient counts for something.
Apparently though you think invading 2 countries wasn’t enough.
Er… WTF ?
“Deplomacy and negotiation” with Islamic extremist groups who cite genocide amongst their goals are “tools that work” now are they ?
When the fk did this happen ? I must have missed that news.
You on the other hand will miss the news that any DEMOCRATS are as delusional or plain batshit insane as you to ever adopt such a position. Very few if any of them have shown they want all DEMOCRAT candidates to cease to exist as electable politicians as you apparently want them to.
You could in fact propose a Jonestown-style mass suicide for members of the Democrat party and get more takers.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:46 amHanging sounds about right for treason, Scooter the Traitor…and for anyone else who supports betraying country for party.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:48 amCommunity Service? How about cleaning our shoes: he has long experience in boot licking.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:52 amtie ‘Skewter’ to Jack Kevorkian and leave them in the desert
June 1st, 2007 at 10:53 amSo NOW they are all for Amnesty?
June 1st, 2007 at 11:03 amAwww, poor Scooter- he was ready to work really hard to help the kids with his service in the Capital Athletic Foundation, formed by fellow convicted felon and NeoCON SCUM fellow traveller, Jack Abramoff
June 1st, 2007 at 11:09 amI’m sorry that liberals believe that a felony actually worth going to prison for, is lying to big government.
You know, you should all conspire instead to put some more molesters, murderers, and rapists behind bars, rather than prosecute paper work and word-of-mouth disagreements. Plenty of unsolved cases there.
But no, you won’t, you’ll just keep mouthing off about violent criminals and people who walk into the “To Catch a Predator” trap not having their “civil liberties.”
The whole Plame fiasco shouldn’t have made it any further than civil court, so Valerie can go find a new job. Putting Libby behind bars won’t exactly eliminate the need for me to own a gun to protect myself.
June 1st, 2007 at 11:23 amMr. Paulson – after Gonzales, we want Cheney, Bush, Rumsfield, Feith, Condi and all the rest of the lying, power-mad, greedy men and women who have managed to take our beloved country to the brink of ruin in only 6 years. I pray every day that they crash and burn (metaphorically speaking) in spectacular fashion so that even those as blinded by their ignorance as you are can see what they are and then you will be willing to help rebuild the United States of America into the land of the free that used to respected and admired by most of the world.
Pace et Bene
June 1st, 2007 at 11:48 amincompetentTROLL
must be hard to wake up every day with yet another of your “leaders” jumping ship and scurrying away in the hopes they will avoid INDICTMENT.
hahaha
too bad cutting and running will NOT protect any of them from FELONY prosecution and JAIL
BUSH RESIGN NOW
June 1st, 2007 at 11:49 amkilo
clearly facts do not weigh into your opinions, anyone with ANY IQ knows that Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11.
You are braindead like the rest of your sinking ship party
kiss the White House GOODBYE because you won’t see it again in this century
June 1st, 2007 at 11:53 amComments by justice
Sorry pal, you’re going to have to go back to the drawing board when it comes to searching for real crimes. Your big-government, radical approach doesn’t threaten me in the least bit.
June 1st, 2007 at 11:58 amHe’s no “distinguished public servant,†he outed Valerie Plame Wilson and caused untold damage to national security.
Libby didn’t out anybody.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:09 pmActually Libby is a TRAITOR pure and simple. We executed the Rosenbergs back in the communist scare days, and I believe that execution is the appropriate punishment for being a traitor to your country.
Lefties want to execute a man for lying, but they wanted John Walker Lindh released despite the fact he took up arms against the United States and aided al Qaeda!
June 1st, 2007 at 12:11 pmkilo, clearly facts do not weigh into your opinions, anyone with ANY IQ knows that Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11.
So why mention it ? You’ve said the US didn’t respond to 9/11. And when prompted for any recognition that it did you cite Iraq.
I was actually referring to Afghanistan and the killing of a shitload of al Qaeda members since.
But now you mention it, while Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, the INVASION of Iraq certainly did, which is pretty much all that matters at this point. Anyone with an IQ should have figured that out by now also.
There’s a reason that people were citing a lack of targets in Afghanistan as a reason that the shock and awe campaign would have to move to Iraq. And that reporters were embedded with troops and surrounded by 24/7 war-porn news coverage when they got there.
You and your dissatisfaction with the level of “revenge for 9/11″ is that reason, whether you want to admit it or not.
You are braindead like the rest of your sinking ship party
kiss the White House GOODBYE because you won’t see it again in this century
Comment by justice — June 1, 2007 @ 11:53 am
Haven’t seen it in the previous century either. International travel being what it is.
But you seem to realise that there is something a political party could do that would disqualify its members from holding office ever again…. in the followup to your post calling for Democrats to negotiate with al Qaeda… where apparently you think this would amount to “avenging 9/11″.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:23 pmAwesome.
Reminder to Liberals: Libby was prosecuted for telling big government what they didn’t want to hear, had nothing to do with Valerie Plame’s outing. Right on, m12.
And also: all of you are using your political aggressions to require that Mr. Libby actually get prison time (or more of it). That’s not how the justice system should work, no matter what the political affiliation.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:23 pmSee Comptroller, executing child molestors is BAD! Executing political opponents is GOOD!
June 1st, 2007 at 12:32 pmTen months + probation with the Martha anklet bracelet. Fairness in sentencing!
June 1st, 2007 at 12:44 pmWhy isn’t Libby IN JAIL while his case is appealed just like those two Border Patrol Agents???? Do professional butt kissers or to
June 1st, 2007 at 12:51 pmuse another word ELITISTS above the Law???? This Judge should
be ASHAMED of himself for allowing this CONVICTED FELON out on
bail while his case is being appealed. Even the AIRHEAD Paris
Hilton is cut a break with her sentence being cut in half, WHAT THE
HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE JUDGES????? THEY SHOULD BE
REMOVED FROM OFFICE
Oh sure, endanger the life of a CIA operative and get away with it. No judge in his or her right mind would let that happen.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:55 pmComment by Karim
Again, Mr. Libby was indicted on nothing related to Valerie Plame. He wasn’t accused of endangering anybody.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:02 pmIn a simpler time, he would have just been summarily hung…this is a much more complicated time…he should be hung, cut down, drawn and quartered…bring on the next traitor…
June 1st, 2007 at 1:06 pmNegotiate with terrorists. I want to see that. I hope Pelosi and Reid fly over there and start right away -Ernest Paulson
Spoke like the truly uninfomed person that you are; The Second in command in Iraq is reacjhing out to the insurgents and he has told his commander to do the same.
What you have to say to that unwise guy?
June 1st, 2007 at 1:38 pmAgain, Mr. Libby was indicted on nothing related to Valerie Plame. He wasn’t accused of endangering anybody.
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Mr Libby obstructed justice, and by doing so assisted those who did out Plame. So he wasn’t linked directly, big deal. He still got charged with a crime. He is no better than Abramoff.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:43 pmOdierno: U.S. reaching out to insurgents
By William H. McMichael – Staff writer
Posted : Thursday May 31, 2007 19:17:47 EDT
U.S. commanders in Iraq are beginning to take a seemingly giant step in the effort to defeat extremist insurgents: negotiations with the enemy.
Lt. Gen. Ray Odierno, the No. 2 U.S. commander in Iraq, said he has told other U.S. commanders “at all levels†to “reach out†to insurgents “because there are insurgents reaching out to us — which is the most important thing. So we want to reach back to them. And we’re talking about cease-fires, and maybe signing some things that say they won’t conduct operations against the government of Iraq, or against coalition forces.â€
Paulson you sir are wrong. Now apologize. It is Bush that is reaching out to the insurgenst, not Reid and nor Pelosi.
Do you trolls only WATCH TV? Sheesh. your so easy to shoot down.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:46 pmComment Oreally
Of course its a big deal. You’re all insinuating that he directly outed the woman, which he didn’t. Armitage was the one who was revealed to have outed her. He wasn’t prosecuted, right? Why, then, should Libby go down?
You big-government fools think really highly of yourselves. Your heads are all on backwards. Go find some violent criminals to imprison.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:57 pmI would have to say that 3 years in it’s disappointing that you cannot yet distinguish between nationalist insurgents in Iraq and al Qaeda.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:13 pm