CIA Bars Plame From Publishing Materials It Released Publicly 15 Months Ago
CIA Bars Plame From Publishing Materials It Released Publicly 15 Months Ago
Valerie Plame Wilson sued the CIA yesterday “over its refusal to allow her to publish a memoir that would discuss how long she had worked for the agency.” The CIA contends that her dates of service “remain classified” and that Plame’s publication of such details in her upcoming book “could have serious ramifications” for national security.
The CIA itself, however, has previously publicly and voluntarily disclosed the very information in question. In February 2006, the CIA sent an letter to Wilson that was subsequently entered into the public domain when it was published in the Congressional Record. The letter, though supposedly classified, remains available online from government websites today.
Plame’s suit argues that the CIA cannot unfairly target her as the only person who is not allowed to publish this information:
“Defendants cannot unring the bell by asserting that their documented, authorized and voluntary disclosure was just a mistake,” the suit said.
“There simply is no basis for the CIA to maintain in effect that Valerie Plame is the only person in the world who is not entitled to publish this information,” it said.
As author David Wise explains, “there are, apparently, good secrets and bad secrets, and it may depend in part on who’s telling them.” While the Wilsons are being censored, Wise notes that vocal advocates of Bush’s policies, including Defense Secretary Robert Gates and former CIA Director George Tenet, “have discovered that selling their secrets to the public between hard covers can reap big bucks.” For them, he adds, “It’s a slam dunk.”
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Gee…Republican hypocrisy at its best!
June 1st, 2007 at 1:55 pmAbout time someone stood up to this Al Qaeda operative.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:57 pmGood news for Plame’s lawsuit…
The problem with surrounding yourself with obsequious toadies, rather than competent professionals, is that things like this tend to happen.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:57 pmPatick1,
Really? A woman who dedicated her life to tracking WMD in the Muslim world is an al Qaeda operative how? I assume you have some evidence of this dumb statment? Oh I forgot, your not part of the reality based world.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:01 pmLawsuit!
June 1st, 2007 at 2:01 pmAbout time someone stood up to this Al Qaeda operative.
Comment by Patrick1
Post your proof of that statement, moron, or shut the f*ck up.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:03 pmCouldn’t be that Darth Cheney would throw every roadblock he could in front of Wilsons, could it?
June 1st, 2007 at 2:03 pmI’m hoping that Waxman brings the dispicable Victoria Toensing up on charges of lying to congress. But, I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for the trolls around her to admit that they were bamboozled by their republican masters into thinking she was just a “desk jockey.”
June 1st, 2007 at 2:04 pmSending your husband to Niger to drink tea while Saddam is chasing down nuclear material makes you either an idiot or an Al Qaeda operative. I was giving her the benefit of the doubt.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:04 pm“The letter, though supposedly classified, remains available online from government websites today.”
The link in that quote dead ends now. At least it did when I clicked through. heh
June 1st, 2007 at 2:05 pmValerie Plame worked at a desk.
Scooter Libby had a bad memory.
About time someone stood up to this Al Qaeda operative. (HT patrick1)
June 1st, 2007 at 2:06 pmAbout time someone stood up to this Al Qaeda operative.
Yup. TRAITOR Bush IS an Al Queda operative:
He is a Saudi OIL WHOREBAG.
And the Saudis are FUNDING Al Queda in Iraq AGAINST THE AMERICANS.
So, yes, Bush IS an Al Queda OPERATIVE.
Who needs to be in Gitmo.
Until he DIES and GOES TO HELL to be with his MASTER
SATAN.
Patprick is CORRECT.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:08 pmSending your husband to Niger….. blah,blah..
–patrick-dumbass
Liar.
Fact: the CIA, not his wife sent Joe to Niger.
See the trial transcripts of the Libby conviction.
Still waiting on your proof, Liar.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:09 pmComment by RoboTroll 3000
Another liar who posts nothing supported by facts in the real world.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:11 pm#2 ~ No single person has provided more direct benefit for Al Queda than Dick Cheney. Even OBL has him to thank for their success.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:12 pmWASHINGTON — In a rare rebuke of a public official by name, the Senate Select Intelligence Committee has issued a scathing report blasting former Ambassador Joseph Wilson IV.
The report claims Wilson mislead the public and the intelligence committee about his trip to Niger in 2002 on behalf of the CIA to investigate claims that Iraq was seeking to purchase uranium in Africa.
Best know as the husband of former CIA officer Valerie Plame, Ambassador Wilson was catapulted to the limelight after he published an Op-Ed in The New York Times on July 6, 2003, that accused the Bush administration of manipulating intelligence on Iraq to make the case for war.
In his New York Times article, Wilson said that in February 2002 he was asked by the Central Intelligence Agency to travel to Niger to investigate “a particular intelligence report” that documented the sale of uranium to Iraq by the Niger government.
The CIA wanted him to “check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president’s office,” after Vice President Dick Cheney had raised questions about the purported uranium deals, he wrote.
Once he arrived in Niger’s capital, Niamey, Wilson says he met with U.S. Ambassador Barbro Owens-Kirkpatrick, then “spent the next eight days drinking sweet mint tea” and meeting with former government officials and others involved in the uranium business. “It did not take long to conclude that it was highly doubtful that any such transaction had ever taken place.”
And that is what he reported back to the CIA and to the State Department African Affairs Bureau, Wilson wrote. But according to the Senate Intelligence Committee investigation, released last Friday, much of what Wilson wrote in the article, and has said since, about the trip “is not true.”
Wilson wrote to the committee in July 2004 when they released an exhaustive investigation into the Niger uranium story that included the finding that he had been sent to Niger at the suggestion of his wife. Wilson claimed that was “not true.”
At the time, the Committee did not release the full text of the e-mail sent by Valerie Plame on Wilson to her superior that recommended him for the job, “thinking it was unnecessary in light of the other evidence” they had made public.
But now, “considering the controversy surrounding this document,” the Senate committee decided to make the full text available to the public. The Valerie Plame e-mail shows without any doubt that she recommended her husband for the mission in Niger.
After recounting an earlier fact-finding mission he had carried out in Niger for the Agency, as well as his good contacts “with both the [prime minister] and the former minister of mines,” she concluded by saying that her husband “may be in a position to assist. Therefore, request your thoughts on what, if anything to pursue here.”
In sworn testimony before the House committee on Oversight and Government Reform in March of this year, however, Plame denied categorically that she had suggested her husband’s name. “I did not recommend him. I did not suggest him,” she said.
It was Valerie Plame’s recommendation for the mission that caught the eye of Vice President Dick Cheney when Wilson’s Op-Ed first appeared and ultimately led to the Special Counsel investigation into how her name — supposed classified — was “leaked” to the press.
The committee found that internal intelligence community notes of meetings in which Valerie Plame participated “did not mark her name with a (C) as would be required to indicate that her association with the CIA was classified,” as both Plame and her husband have said. These aren’t the only instance where Wilson’s account did not square with the facts, the senators found.
Wilson has said in his book and in numerous public appearances that reports he reviewed from the U.S. ambassador to Niger, Barbro Owens-Kirkpatrick, “indicated that there was nothing to the Niger-Iraq uranium story . . . This too is untrue,” the committee found. On the contrary, Owens-Kirkpatrick wrote a cable to the State Department which said that the initial CIA reporting of a Niger-Iraq uranium deal “provides sufficient details to warrant another hard look at Niger’s uranium sales.”
Although Nigerien officials insisted in meetings with the Americans that no uranium would be sold to rogue nations, “we should not dismiss out of hand the possibility that some scheme could be, or has been, underway to supply Iraq with yellowcake from here,” she wrote.
Perhaps the most damning conclusion of the Senate report has been known for nearly three years, but has remained classified until now. In the initial July 2004 report, the Senate committee reported that the intelligence community “used or cleared the Niger-Iraq uranium intelligence fifteen times before the President’s State of the Union address and four times after, saying in several papers that Iraq was ‘vigorously pursuing uranium from Africa.’”
Despite that finding, Democrats led by Michigan Sen. Carl Levin blasted President Bush for the “16 words” in the January 2003 speech that described Iraq’s efforts to acquire uranium from Africa, calling them an effort to “cherry-pick” intelligence and to “mislead” the country and the world in a “rush to war.”
In fact, the U.S. intelligence community continued to believe in the veracity of the Niger uranium story for many months after the speech, and didn’t call back its original reporting until June 2003 — well after the liberation of Iraq.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:13 pmPatrick 1
Valerie did not sent her husband to Niger. Where is the proof?
June 1st, 2007 at 2:13 pm“Sending your husband to Niger to drink tea while Saddam is chasing down nuclear material makes you either an idiot or an Al Qaeda operative. I was giving her the benefit of the doubt.”
comment by Patrick#1idiot
So let’s look at this logically. Cheney asks for verification of the Niger documents, and the CIA sends Wilson to verify it, as per Cheney’s request.
I would agree… Cheney is both an idiot AND an Al Qaeda operative. Except for the parts where Ambassador Wilson is supposed to be Cheney’s wife, or Saddam chasing down nuclear material. heh
June 1st, 2007 at 2:15 pmSo to what category does George Tenets book belong…fairy tales for kids?
June 1st, 2007 at 2:15 pmHow about this for an Al Qaeda operative: The person who allowed Al Qaeda to carry out the worst terrorist attack in history on American soil, didn’t capture Osama bin Laden, and today has stopped worrying that Osama bin Laden is free: George W. “My Pet Goat” Bush.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:15 pmPatprick,
LINKS to the article?? OR just more “cut and paste”???
Without the LINKS, we don’t know if this story is from the Al Queda OPERATIVES at NewsMax or WorldNetDaily….
And TRAITOR Bush the MURDERER coxucker PUNK is an Al Queda azzhole-licker…
June 1st, 2007 at 2:17 pmBush allowed Al Qaeda to attack us at home at kill 3000 Americans. His leadership is an outright failure.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:17 pmPatrick 1
Who wrote this story? You are a liar.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:18 pmWhy do you all keep responding to “Patrick1″?
It lies and distorts just so it can distract your attention. Anyone with a modicum of sense can see that virtually instantly.
Yet you keep responding, and you keep being diverted. Who is the true fool, the fool that leads or the fool that follows the fool that leads?
You really cannot complain about sh*t on your shoes when you willingly and enthusiastically walk through a sewage dump.
Just a thought.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:20 pmCiting to “NewsMax”? Hilarious. Might as well quote from Grimm’s Fairy Tales! Hahaha!
June 1st, 2007 at 2:20 pmGive it up, Patrick. Pack it in and go home. There is no use to what you are trying to accomplish here. Seriously. No one wants to be the last rat on a sinking ship.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:21 pmPatrick1’s “article” is from NewsMax!! NewsMax has been shown to publish lies, frequently. Not even a good try.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:23 pmComment by RoboTroll 3000
Another liar who posts nothing supported by facts in the real world.
Comment by Wayne — June 1, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
Thank you for your input, Wayne. Be advised that my content is programmed at RNC headquarters, and I have no control over it. (Do you really think I would have quoted Patrick1 if I had a say in the matter? But I guess they’re getting desperate for content at HQ. I heard they fired a bunch of programmers or something… oops, I’ve already said too much. Gotta go.)
June 1st, 2007 at 2:25 pmPatrick is stuck in dumb and can’t allow himself to think. The good news is there are less of his ilk still out in public. They are eating their own.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:25 pmHere’s the link to the Newsmax “article.” The one Patrick1 was too ashamed to post: http://www.newsmax.com/ archives/ articles/ 2007/ 6/ 1/ 100750.shtml?s=us
June 1st, 2007 at 2:30 pmRoboTroll 3000 has been malfunctioning and will be taken off-line for repair and reprogramming. Until further notice, we will be forced to rely on trolls such as m12, Mr President and Patrick1 to catapult the propaganda.
We realize that this is a particularly sorry bunch of trolls, but we’re pretty much stuck. We can’t even outsource this job to India or anywhere else in the globe. Those people will pirate Hollywood features or program kiddie porn but they draw the line at supporting George W. Bush. Go figure.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Thank You
June 1st, 2007 at 2:32 pmThe RNC
http://intelligence.senate.gov/prewar.pdf
It’s not a text document, so you can’t search it. Go down to page 208 where you’ll find the heading “Minority Views of Vice Chairman Bond Joined by Senators Hatch and Burrâ€.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:34 pmpatrick1 Has Locksteppers Syndrome, he is incapable of independant thought. He’s too scared shitless to think for himself and not intelligent enough to understand how to verify the articles he reads.
His sites a source that is NOT A SOURCE at all. This is why they can’t make an “impact” on the internet, they have no CREDIBILITY
June 1st, 2007 at 2:41 pmSpeaking of Orrin Hatch, isn’t he the Senator who openly LIED about Carol Lam in trying to craft some sort of defense for Gonazales?
From the official Senate transcript: [Hatch:] Carol Lam, it’s amazing to me she wasn’t fired earlier because for three years members of the Congress had complained that there had been all kinds of border patrol capture of these people but hardly any prosecutions. She was a former law professor, no prosecutorial experience, and the former campaign manager in Southern California for Clinton…”
Lam graduated cum laude from Yale, attended Stanford Law, and clerked for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. After serving as an assistant U.S. attorney in the 1980s, Lam was appointed to the bench in the San Diego Superior Court, before becoming a U.S. attorney in 2002. She is a past recipient of the Attorney General’s Award for Distinguished Service. She has never been a law professor. Lam was in the top third of her US Attorney peers in overall prosecutions and convictions.
Why would I read the words of a proven LIAR? No need. You should look for a CREDIBLE source.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:43 pmHatch? You’ve gotta be kidding me. That’s the most obsequious Bush licking lying toadie this side of Clarence Thomas.
On the other hand, I do love the circular justification gig you’ve got going there.
Some Republican lying toadie says something, manages to get it inserted into an official document, then that gets cited as “proof” for the rest of history that the sky is yellow.
It’s classic.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:44 pmPatrick you complete dumbass. That “minority” report is not supported by any of the testimony in the hearing. It’s pure bull. Look, stupid, the CIA just disclosed this week that Plame was covert and had been traveling undercover outside the country during the previous two years, so this argument is over whether or not you know it. She was a covert CIA agent. Your treasonous taskmasters outed her for political purposes. Then your propaganda daddies told you she was a desk-jockey. You have been lied to. Do you have any self-respect at all or is just “thank you sir, may I have another” with someone like you. Pull yourself together and admit that you’ve been wrong, wrong, wrong.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:44 pmPatrick1,
You have to actually read the document. What you quoted is what the minority felt happened regarding Plame sending her own husband. He did say, and so has she, that she recommended him. That would be because he was one of, if not, the most qualified person for that job if you look at his reume. Then the CIA asked him if he would do it. She didn’t send him.
June 1st, 2007 at 2:48 pmSorry for the inconvenience.
Thank You
The RNC
Comment by RNC Troll Dept
Damn. I liked RoboTroll3000. Get well soon!!
June 1st, 2007 at 2:51 pmWe’ll miss you, RoboTroll3000. Of course, if you need a “lube job,” just ask Mark Foley, Jeff Gannon, or Ted Haggart. In fact, it seems just about any Republican leader would be willing to “lend a hand.”
June 1st, 2007 at 3:05 pmBond, Hatch and Burr?
More of the scumbag RUBBER-STAMPERS for Bush when they had the MAJORITY.
And remember Pat Roberts’ STONEWALLING the SECOND HALF of the report for OVER 2 years???
LIARS, THIEVES and THUGS who support an administration of INTERNATIONAL CRIMINALS.
It MAKES SENSE that YOU would use THEM for your argument.
THEY are CRIMINAL TRAITORS TO THE USA…
And YOU support them…
June 1st, 2007 at 3:14 pmI am the new improved Robotroll3001!!!! All shall bow before me!!!!
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June 1st, 2007 at 3:16 pmoops. well, that one wasn’t quite ready to be unveiled…
sorry all.
June 1st, 2007 at 3:17 pmRT3000? gone? say it ain’t so!!!!
June 1st, 2007 at 3:18 pmPoor Patrick. How it must suck to be so totally blinded by his undying love for Dumbya. One day soon, maybe Dumbya will instruct his few remaining followers to drink cyanide laced Koolaid.
June 1st, 2007 at 3:25 pmThe recent maintenance program begun on RoboTroll 3000 should not take long to complete. In the meantime, ConcernTroll 3050 will try to pick up the slack.
Democrats should not push for jail time for Scooter Libby. It will make them look vindictive.
Also, Democrats should not pursue vigorous oversight hearings on the Bush Administration. It will make them look petty and partisan.
I’m concerned for the Democrats.
June 1st, 2007 at 3:26 pm#38, you have it exactly right. Patrick needs to read the entire minority view and not just selected words and phrases. The very document hs posts and tells us where to read does not support his assertions at all.
Sadly though the right has shifted so far into their alternate reality that they are no longer able to recognize reality when it smacks them in the face. They absolutely refuse to acknowledge that Wilson was correct in his findings even though the white house has said so, well…everyone except dirty dick. They refuse to accept the reality of Plame’s status even when their boy “I’ll listen to who I want to listen to when I want to listen to them Hayden” says that she was covert. They refuse to note that when something looks like a duck walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is probably a duck, they refuse to see that because their spin machine had referred to that duck as being an ostrich for years so it is an ostrich and it will always be an ostrich and no liberal plot to claim it is a duck will ever change their minds. Talk about Kool aid drinking moon bats.
The far right kooks who have hijacked the republican party and American policy for so long see no problem and have no issues with exposing a CIA operative who specializes in tracking the proliferation of WMD, thus ending all of her contacts, and rendering any on-going work null and void , at a time when WMD and the proliferation of them is at the forefront of our national consciousness. What fools they are.
June 1st, 2007 at 3:32 pmNow it’s Good Secret/Bad Secret?
June 1st, 2007 at 3:53 pmFor some religious savior’s name, what a sham these assclowns have made of our government.
#38, you have it exactly right. Patrick needs to read the entire minority view and not just selected words and phrases.
Comment by Markk
So, Markk, can you spot the logical error in your first paragraph?
June 1st, 2007 at 4:20 pmYeah b!tch, we own you. now sha’cha’facey’ollcoot!!!
June 1st, 2007 at 5:53 pmDid anyone who looked at the NewsMax article notice the ad below it for a “male enhancement pill”? Would any respectable news media run such an ad for the sort of product that I thought only spammers dealt in? Or maybe Patsy can tell us what a wonderful product it is?
June 1st, 2007 at 7:14 pmtonight — inspired by plame — i
have photoshopped-up the letter
shooter SHOULD HAVE SENT to
judge walton, if, in fact, he
is blameless in these matters,
and takes his sworn oath to uphold
the laws of the united states, as
its vice president, seriously.
do take a look — it is a labor of love.
June 1st, 2007 at 9:40 pmOy nolo,
I hope Scooter wears a bike helmet, cuz he went under the bus! Heh.
June 1st, 2007 at 11:00 pmThe CIA itself, however, has previously publicly and voluntarily disclosed the very information in question. In February 2006, the CIA sent an letter to Wilson
Sorry ? How is a private communication between the CIA as employer and one of its employees a “public disclosure” ?
Surely this letter is irrelevant if that’s the case since her paychecks, employment contract and every piece of paper concerning her employment during the duration were just as public.
In February 2006, the CIA sent an letter to Wilson that was subsequently entered into the public domain when it was published in the Congressional Record.
Sure. It was SO in the public domain that until now nobody had bothered to cite it when trying to resolve matters relating to Plame’s history of employment with the CIA and claims that she was not covert.
The letter, though supposedly classified, remains available online from government websites today.
Does it ? Your link goes nowhere for me.
Plame’s suit argues that the CIA cannot unfairly target her as the only person who is not allowed to publish this information:
Any explanation as to why it makes this arguement when it clearly isn’t true ?
Bob Baer confirms he isn’t allowed to disclose this in his books which are also accompanied by CIA censored passages which relate to his start date.
Same for Gary Berntsen when writing in Jawbreaker and his assignments prior to the invasion of Afghanistan. Shit that happened 20 years ago in conflicts that are today ended.
Are these 2 former CIA employees who’ve published books about their work non-persons ? Aliens ? Is that the arguement ? Because otherwise it would appear to be groundless.
As author David Wise explains, “there are, apparently, good secrets and bad secrets, and it may depend in part on who’s telling them.â€
Except that we know it doesn’t depend on who’s telling them as this is standard practice for the CIA to censor the publishing of a CIA employee’s start date.
While the Wilsons are being censored, Wise notes that vocal advocates of Bush’s policies, including Defense Secretary Robert Gates and former CIA Director George Tenet, “have discovered that selling their secrets to the public between hard covers can reap big bucks.†For them, he adds, “It’s a slam dunk.â€
Hey here’s an idea, let’s quote someone who’s arguement about Plame rests on making no distinction between CIA agents who are undercover/covert and those who work at Langley and have their name on the letterhead.
That won’t look fkn retarded a couple of days after running a story about how CIA agents being covert means something significant when it comes to details of their work for the CIA being disclosed.
Yeah, run with that. Sheesh.
This is like Brownie’s biographer complaining that all the people qualified to run a government agency get their books about how to do that published but he can’t for some mysterious reason. Yeah, keep wondering about that champ.
Literally the only reason that Valerie Plame could sell a book, the only reason anyone knows her name, is completely lost on her biographer. Wow. Just wow.
And here we have TP, who has published 700 stories about this same issue, repeating this without any apparent recognition of the irony.
June 2nd, 2007 at 1:02 amREPORT ON THE U.S. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY’S PREWAR INTELLIGENCE
June 2nd, 2007 at 1:33 amNote the 2004 date if this is news to you.
Er… are you sure ? Because she has also testified under oath that she didn’t recommend him.
Yeah, just like Bush has never got any political buddy a job in the Bush administration, he just highly recommends them to those doing the hiring.
June 2nd, 2007 at 1:38 amSuch a useful and meaningful distinction to make.
“Here’s the link to the Newsmax “article.†The one Patrick1 was too ashamed to post: http://www.newsmax.com/ archives/ articles/ 2007/ 6/ 1/ 100750.shtml?s=us”
Wow, that “news report” was dated on Friday. So, they expect us to believe that the Democratic controlled Senate rebuked Joe Wilson and no paper was aware it happened except for News Max.
All the MSM is worthless except for one. The McClatchy news group is proving to be the only news organization that thinks that reporting the news, the real news, is a good idea. Most investigative reporting done today is done by them. So, I say to the McClatchy News Group…good on you!
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:04 am“she didn’t send him”.
The problem is that the trolls are getting “she recommended him” and “she sent him” confused. They are two entirely different things. Joe Wilson was probably the most qualified person on the planet to do this mission, and he happened to be married to Valerie Plame. When she heard what the CIA was looking for, she told them that she thought her husband would be a good candidate because he had loads of experience in the area of expertise they needed.
So, dumb trolls, show us any credible proof that says that Valerie Plame “sent” her husband on the mission. I was not aware she had that kind of power in her position. The fact is she recommended him because he was eminently qualified for the mission.
These trolls are getting dumber and dumber. I can’t imagine they aren’t embarrassed by what they post.
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:17 amOn what are you basing this statement ?
Joe Wilson got sent to Niger because his wife recommended him. This is undisputed apart from both Wilson and Plame’s contradictions of themselves on this point.
I would suggest the problem is entirely yours if you are hanging out to find out if the CIA lackey who books the airline tickets is named “Fred” or “Ted”.
Otherwise it would appear to be a pointless distinction to make which you don’t find anyone making.
I mean it could fly if we weren’t posting on a blog that has a link titled “Abramoff” on its front page. Kind of managed to join the dots there without the need for him to personally put a congressman on a plane to Scotland didn’t we ?
Or in the case of 400 different lackies being recommended for jobs throughout government agencies, the CPA, the White House, etc. You’ve shown a lot of ability to join these dots up until right this very moment for some mysterious reason.
When she heard what the CIA was looking for ? It was the CPD that initiated this investigation, selected Wilson and sent him to Niger. They did this after one of their staff recommended Wilson to another one of their staff. Her name was Plame.
Why ? Would the lack of such proof that she personally sent him rather than influenced his being sent count for something ?
Because, you know, we’re still waiting on proof that Bush ever said Iraq was behind 9/11 too. I guess we can file that one under debunked also.
Considering you are unaware of all aspects of her power in her position in the CPD this is hardly worth mentioning.
Any proof of that while we’re at it ?
Sure you’ve been pointed to a copy of the memo here in which she does this, but that memo is referred to in a NewsMax article, meaning it is baseless. Much like there’s no Iraq war because they did an article on that too.
And you’ve been told that this was a minortiy opinion you can ignore, despite the fact that it was also the majority conclusion included prominantly in the full report.
And you’ve got TP telling you that she never sent that memo that was submitted as evidence to the SSCI.
So all that leaves you with is Plame’s testimony that she never made any such recommendation. Which you’ve apparently ignored in favour of all the information that has been ridiculed here as heresay.
Yes, tell us again about the trolls being confused.
Yeah speaking of being embarassed by what you post, I wonder if it is you or TP in this case….
Hume Launches New Smear: Plame Lied Under Oath
Hume said Plame’s testimony “flies in the face of the evidence†adduced by the “bipartisan†Senate Intelligence Committee, which said that “she very much did have something to do with it, that she recommended him and that she put it in a memo.†Watch it:
Plame testified that she never suggested her husband for the Niger trip. “I did not recommend him, I did not suggest him, there was no nepotism involved — I didn’t have the authority,†she said.
Confused ? Embarrassed ?
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:49 pmWhich illustrates you have no familiarity with either the investigative reporting available or McClatchy’s comparative contribution to it.
You can find the same type of statement on right-wing blogs where they complain that all MSM news is lies.
Let’s all stop to wonder again why people who get their news from blogs are less informed than Rush Limbaugh listeners.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:58 pmBOB NOVAK IS A DOUCHEBAG.
Joe Wilson exposed Bush-Cheney’s IRAQ WAR LIES, so Cheney and the VP’s Office attacked the man’s wife.
What’s wrong with that? Dick Cheney is a pussy: He can’t handle criticism. He lies without shame or impunity… He can’t handle responsibility — personal, professional, or otherwise.
And if he’s gonna lie to the Country, you better not tell anybody! He’ll attack your wife, smear your family, torture your kids, kill your dog, and poison the whole freakin’ city… just to show you! Dam*it!
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:35 pmSo Mrs. Wilson according to bush sucker was a desk clerk. a desk clerk able to send someone to another country?
June 3rd, 2007 at 10:13 amGas-bag Limbaugh is the Jerry Springer of the pundit world. Those who listen to him end up the same way sooner or later. I wonder if he will write a book about his doctor shopping for drugs or his strange get-away in Nicaragua that had homo written all over it.
Yep, Limbaugh is a lying loser who promotes a lying president loser.
June 3rd, 2007 at 10:37 am