Senate bill questions secret CIA prison system.
Senate bill questions secret CIA prison system.
“The Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday questioned the continuing value of the Central Intelligence Agency’s secret interrogation program for terrorism suspects,” suggesting the network of overseas prisons “should be shut down unless the Bush administration can demonstrate that they are ‘necessary, lawful and in the best interests of the United States.’”
The sweeping report, which accompanies the annual bill authorizing the activities of all of the spy agencies, reflects a striking reassertion of aggressive oversight since Democrats took control of Congress this year. [...]
The committee declared that it would block changes sought by the Bush administration in the law governing domestic eavesdropping by the National Security Agency unless it received long-sought administration documents on the secret surveillance program, including orders signed by President Bush.
The report criticized the intelligence agencies’ ballooning use of contractors, saying the outsourcing had created conflicts of interest because some major purchasing programs are themselves run by contractors, some of which have ties to vendors. [...]
But the committee stopped short of using its budget authority to shut down the [secret CIA interrogation] program. In a closed session on May 23, two Democrats, Senators Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island and Dianne Feinstein of California, proposed barring spending on interrogation techniques that go beyond the Army Field Manual, which bans physical pressure or pain. … The amendment failed when Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, joined all the Republicans in voting no.
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Gosh, didn’t Condi tell Europe that these secret prisons don’t exist?
June 1st, 2007 at 2:52 amThough there are so many elements of BushCo deceit to dismantle, in such limited time, this sort of focus, fine but with latent, yet damning tangents, is what will bring these bastards down.
What do people anticipate for our Friday 5pm surprise?!
We are winning…or at least catching up!! Have a good weekend, all!!
Styve
June 1st, 2007 at 3:06 amNo, she just told us that she told them that they don’t exist. The Europeans know better to believe anything Condi tells them. Apparently 28% of Americans still haven’t learned their lesson.
June 1st, 2007 at 3:06 amHey Dude, do not underéstimate an old continent.
June 1st, 2007 at 3:24 amThis “reporting” was obviously written by the same P.R. bozos who churn out the slick brochures for Ultra-Deluxe Cruise Lines:
“The Senate questioned the continuing value of the Central Intelligence Agency’s secret interrogation program for terrorism suspects,â€
We’ll just bet they questioned the heck out of the continuing value. Of operating entirely outside the bounds of the legality they purportedly “stand for” in their bought-and-paid-for airconditioned suites in the swanky Old Boys Club they euphamistically call a “Senate”. Woweezowee Batman, after six years of these publicly known outrageous violations of everything Constitutional, not to mention the DECADES OR MORE where they knew all about it because they made it happen, NOW they actually question. How impressive. Could it be because they wish to make it seem as if they have not been complicit? Oh, but that’s just crazytalk
suggesting (Love em or hate em, they’re little scamps. They “suggested”) the network of overseas prisons “should be shut down unless the Bush administration can demonstrate that they are ‘necessary, lawful and in the best interests of the United States.’â€
May we respectfully submit the “suggestion” that the Bush admininstration is a twice-unelected criminal coup d’etat six years overdue for Impeachment and imprisonment which not once but twice stole office through numerous felony-level violations of the very same Federal Laws which the Honorable Senators swore themselves to uphold. Oh, right. Also just crazytalk. Diebold, DeLay, Rove, Grifin, Redistricting, Caging, Stopped Recounts, Supreme Court, it was all a big misunderstanding. Silly us.
The sweeping (Sweeping! Oh yes, We The People see the vast, massive waves of integrity just absolutely washing all through the hallowed halls of the government mere private individuals are drubbed under threat of fines, audit, jail, yadayayda to pay for and get virtually nothing from, except tickets, fines, fees, taxes, regulations, wiretaps, spy satelites and numerous other human and technological marvels trained on us year after blessed year) report, which accompanies the annual bill authorizing the activities of all of the spy agencies, reflects a striking reassertion of aggressive oversight since Democrats took control of Congress this year.
So strikingly aggressive, sweeping, revolutionary and radical are these endless reports in fact that our Democratic “Leadership” rolled around on the senate rug and played Fido, salivating all over themselves to write ANOTHER check in OUR red ink, then ran, not walked over to Dick and George and their pals to beg them to take it down to Riggs Bank on the corner and cash it right away.
The committee declared that it would block changes sought by the Bush administration in the law governing domestic eavesdropping by the National Security Agency UNLESS it received long-sought administration documents on the secret surveillance program, including orders signed by President Bush.
Unless! First thing they teach you in Senate School: Always give those whom you are attempting to stop in their tracks a wide-open door through which to esape, then tell them to take as much time as they like leaving. The very same brilliant strategy used by Cheney and Bush to capture their butt-buddy BinLaden. Coincidence? We Report, You Decide.
The report criticized the intelligence agencies’ ballooning use of contractors, saying the outsourcing had created conflicts of interest because some major purchasing programs are themselves run by contractors, some of which have ties to vendors.
No shit Sherlock. The MIC owns everything in a cabal of leeches sucking the blood out of America and Americans. Who would ever have dreampt it. Not our Congress and Senate, no siree. That’s why they’re criticizing. Cause they’re the good guys.
But the committee stopped short of using its budget authority to shut down the [secret CIA interrogation] program.
Well, there go again, stopping short. If it weren’t such an outlandishly totally off the wall crazy koo-koo obviously out to lunch conspiracy nut theoretical speculative totally off-the-wall one-in-a-million no-way fantasyland delusional made-up fictional scenario, a tiny handful of weak-minded suggestible fools might conclude in their naive imaginings that the stopping short which historically somehow invariably makes its appearance at these junctures might possibly be due to some people having some sort of mysterious influence on these otherwise obviously earnest, stalwart, thoughroughly honest and upstanding examples of the very finest legislators elected through immaculate clean-room standards voting processes, and clearly nothing else.
Listen Here
June 1st, 2007 at 5:30 amSo much for letting degenerates run the country.
June 1st, 2007 at 6:17 amSecret Prison System?
How about the one that Chertoff has installed right here in the United States?
Google “Swift Luck Greens”
What do you think it will take for Lou Dobbs and Keith Olbermann
to get these images featured on their nightly shows and demand
an explanation of Michael Chertoff? I want to see national TV news
crews there at this location with cameras in hand. We paid for them -
Cheney’s KBR built them – let’s see them on TV! Aren’t they proud?
http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=297
Note that in the DHS “Swift Luck Greens†photos, the mine facility is known as the “East Annexâ€
This implies that the main facility is further west of this location.
I believe the “main†facility is the one referred to as the “Maximum Security†facility.
Rag Shoshone coal mine closed Thursday. August 30, 2000.
In 2000 – this was the production rate for the mine:
Tons of Coal Mined in 2000: 1,209,795
Number of Employees in 2000: 67
CYPRUS SHOSHONE COAL CORPORATION
HANNA WY 82327
Latitude: 41.92 Longitude: -106.521944
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:r6uVGyYd6jEJ:oaspub.epa.gov/enviro/multisys2.get_list%3FFACILITY_UIN%3D110011605575+%22RAG+shoshone%22+longitude+latitude&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1
Map:
http://www.gorissen.info/Pierre/maps/googleMapLocationv4.php?lat=41.92&lon=-106.521944&setLatLon=Set
http://www.gorissen.info/Pierre/maps/googleMapLocationv4.php?lat=41.92&lon=-106.521944&setLatLon=Set
Map:
http://oaspub.epa.gov/enviro/lrt_viewer.map_page?sys_id=110011605575
Coal Field Summary
A small field (20 by 40 miles) with hundreds of coal seams throughout 12,000 feet of rock, most very thin, but 68 are over 5 feet thick. Peat collected in intermountain swamps. All are strip mines. The one underground mine closed recently.
Coal Field Geography
This shows the rail line loops at the Shoshone mine, plus a creek to the west called Stink Creek.
http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=-11859000.6865528&Y=5118000.35541027&width=700&height=400&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=mercator&db=&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&keepicon=&zm=0&out.x=8&out.y=8&scale=25000
Also shown here depicting possible hay/wheat fields:
http://www.gorissen.info/Pierre/maps/googleMapLocationv4.php?lat=41.92&lon=-106.521944&setLatLon=Set
Roads and rail lines:
http://www.gorissen.info/Pierre/maps/googleMapLocationv4.php?lat=41.92&lon=-106.521944&setLatLon=Set
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_Inmate_Labor_Program
Wikipedia:
Civilian Inmate Labor Program
June 1st, 2007 at 6:26 amRead my lips no new secret prisons!
June 1st, 2007 at 6:57 amHey, If it makes it easier for terrorists, I’m all for it.
June 1st, 2007 at 6:57 amya gotta luv it. The good old dems are so furiously independent that they can’t even maintain the ability to support the views of the voters that put them in office.
June 1st, 2007 at 7:06 amWell, Nelson – Fla. deserves to recieve all the support that he is due. here is an idea- how about rendering the fool and send him to somewhere that he will experience the full treatment that has been reaped upon other folks!
What logical purpose does maintaining secret prisons serve?
June 1st, 2007 at 7:26 amThese prisons do not exist!
June 1st, 2007 at 7:35 amThat is to say that “they say” they don’t exist!
June 1st, 2007 at 7:37 amHey, If it makes it easier for terrorists, I’m all for it.
Comment by liberal commentor
Yeh, it’s not like Dick and George care where Osama is. BTW did you know Osama was once a freedom fighter when Reagan was President?
Could you explain how that works?
June 1st, 2007 at 8:06 amHey we GrOPers spent millions training them freedom fighters like Osama, we can’t be locking them up now.
June 1st, 2007 at 8:21 amThe Bush team keeps it own counsel. And the Bush team can, if it so desires, declare Congress irrelevant.
So what is the meaning of the below comments about secret CIA prisons?
“should be shut down unless the Bush administration can demonstrate that they are ‘necessary, lawful and in the best interests of the United States.’â€
Wouldn’t the above statement put “in the box” type constraints on the Bush team?
And speaking of “the best interest of the United States”… Isn’t “in the best interest of the Republican party”, the same as the best interest of the United States?
The Bush team is likely hearing words it has not heard since it and the OLD CONGRESS stood “SHOULDER TO SHOULDER” to ward off those who would try to put the Bush team’s management style “back in the box”.
It is truly a new era for the Bush team and a “back to America” era for most. It is refreshing.
June 1st, 2007 at 8:22 amWhat is it with my Senator & torture?? Nelson continually supports the repug’s anytime torture is involved. Keep your S & M to yourself Mr. Nelson and act like a human being for once!
June 1st, 2007 at 8:26 amNot sure what ‘back to America’ bezeltl is talking about. Apparently people, Republicans, don’t agree with the Bush management style;
RNC donations fall, phone workers fired
‘Donor rebellion’ over Bush policies caused plunge in RNC phone donations.
Now this is refreshing!!!
June 1st, 2007 at 8:30 am“What is it with my Senator & torture??”
Hopefully Mr. Nelson is up for re-election in 08 and the people of Florida will show him the door.
As every day goes by I am having less and less hope that the Democratic Congress is going to do anything to change the direction our country is headed in. We are headed pell-mel off a cliff and they are doing nothing to stop it. I guess the Democrats are owned by the Corporations too.
Please, let’s elect people in 08′ who have a conscience, soul and are willing to do the right thing. If nothing else, they must be willing to do what the people what. That’s why we elect them. And if we continue to re-elect incumbents who don’t do what we want them to do, then we are just telling them that it’s OK to ignore your constituents and take your orders from the corporate fat cats.
I weep for what we have become. I fear it is too late to turn it around.
June 1st, 2007 at 8:42 amThis travisty needs to be exposed for what it is!
June 1st, 2007 at 8:48 amWhy do I get the feeling that this is playing behind the scenes:
BUSH ADMINISTRATION:
That would certainly explain why Impeachment is off the table (Kucinich must have missed the memo). It would also explain the caving in on the war funding bill, and the toothless investigations.
June 1st, 2007 at 9:00 amWhy do conservative Republicans hate the Constitution?
June 1st, 2007 at 9:04 amComment by Briseadh na Faire — June 1, 2007 @ 9:00 am
If you are going to make that argument then we could restate it like this…
Argument #1) 9-11 was the PNAC’s “Pearl Harbor” and the government LIHOP or MIHOP
Argument #2) 9-11 happened the way or close to the way the 9-11 Commission report stated
Are there any other arguments?
June 1st, 2007 at 9:12 amArgument #2) 9-11 happened the way or close to the way the 9-11 Commission report stated
Are there any other arguments?
Comment by freedomrings — June 1, 2007 @ 9:12 am
Argument #2 is a fallacy. First, the 9/11 Commission was only tasked with investigating the alleged failure of the intelligence. Second, the 9/11 Commission accepted findings that were technologically impossible (the cell phone calls from an in-flight commercial aircraft, for example).
However, I will propose 2 more arguments equally plausible with argument #2:
#3: We were attacked by invaders from another planet who wish to foment war between humans and thus weaken earth prior to their invasion.
#4: God did it.
June 1st, 2007 at 9:18 amokay these Secret Prisons are wrond , I propose we now start giving all of our suspected domestic and foreign terrorist to the Israelis to interview . that should work : )
June 1st, 2007 at 9:25 amTo make the idea in my last post clearer I want to add this post.
If 9-11 was an attack on the US as advertised by the Government than supporting the war is vital.
If 9-11 was false than the war is too and our country is in the control of a military dictatorship.
I’m not alone since 9-11 is the trigger for the entire chain of events leading till this moment. Any thoughts about this point?
June 1st, 2007 at 9:28 amHey Folks we are bring 7000 iraqis to Detroit to Live do they really need that many more convenient stores , liquor stores and Motels there sending funding back to terrorist ?
June 1st, 2007 at 9:33 amArgument #2 is a fallacy. First, the 9/11 Commission was only tasked with investigating the alleged failure of the intelligence. Second, the 9/11 Commission accepted findings that were technologically impossible (the cell phone calls from an in-flight commercial aircraft, for example).
However, I will propose 2 more arguments equally plausible with argument #2:
#3: We were attacked by invaders from another planet who wish to foment war between humans and thus weaken earth prior to their invasion.
#4: God did it.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — June 1, 2007 @ 9:18 am
I was hoping that we could stay on topic since there is no GOD except for Good Orderly Direction.
How can it be proven that 9-11 was or was not false in any large way?
June 1st, 2007 at 9:43 amHow can it be proven that 9-11 was or was not false in any large way?
Comment by freedomrings — June 1, 2007 @ 9:43 am
A criminal investigation would be nice. But that’s difficult, since all of the forensic evidence was ordered destroyed.
However, based on what evidence is available, the “official explanation” distorts the laws of physics on many, many points.
As an aside, the Taliban offered to extradite Bin Laden upon a showing of proof. Bush invaded.
June 1st, 2007 at 9:48 am“Top U.S. commander…warned…he may not be able to make a full assessment of the situation in Iraq by September, as demanded by lawmakers.â€
What ever happened to the Military answer that we old soldiers used to know and love: Sir! Yes, Sir. Right away, Sir. As you say, Sir.
We need to go back to that old saw. It makes no difference whether you follow or lead, just don’t get in the way.
The answer infers only one possible scenario. It is not that he is not ABLE to make the assessment, it is that he has been DIRECTED not to make the assessment. That fact alone dictates the outcome of a legitimate evaluation and Congress should act now and not wait until September.
June 1st, 2007 at 9:56 amem>Comment by Briseadh na Faire — June 1, 2007 @ 9:48 am
I don’t want you to think I’m being rude by the way. I felt compelled to bring this up since for all of the posting here nothing is about the central incident or tipping point that is 9-11.
Talking shop about a party assumes that they had no involvement. That is to say that if 9-11 was Let or Made to HOP than we will never see justice prevail for we have lost our country to a coup.
June 1st, 2007 at 9:56 am29 – that’s because it’s been brought up many times before in this forum. no offense taken, I just have limited time to respond now days.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:02 am29 – that’s because it’s been brought up many times before in this forum. no offense taken, I just have limited time to respond now days.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — June 1, 2007 @ 10:02 am
I don’t see any discussions about 9-11 here for some reason. I don’t get how it could have been talked to death since it is the key defining moment. Here are all of these posts and threads talking about various government agencies and what they are doing.
If the assertion that 9-11 might be a self inflicted wound is true that nothing the government is doing or has done is meaningful, true, just, fair, etc. The citizens are in the hands of a mass murdering military dictatorship and there is nothing to talk about since that situation requires only “one†possible response from the people.
If the assertion that 9-11 was the result of a true terrorist organization than this war and all that goes along with it might be necessary even though we don’t like it.
If our assertion is wrong we are obstructing justice and endangering our own lives. If our assertion is correct we are in even greater danger but matters are compounded since we don’t talk about that defining moment and then that dictatorship has conquered our hearts and minds.
Does what I’m stating make sense?
June 1st, 2007 at 10:25 amIn a closed session on May 23, two Democrats, Senators Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island and Dianne Feinstein of California, proposed barring spending on interrogation techniques that go beyond the Army Field Manual, which bans physical pressure or pain. … The amendment failed when Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, joined all the Republicans in voting no.
I’d suggest it failed for a variety of reasons.
On a pure practicality measure I’d have to ask, if this is considered a sane proposal, why no Democrat has proposed to cut military spending on techniques like soldiers kicking Iraqis in the head.
Clearly if you want something like that stopped cutting funding which has no bearing on it happening is the way to go. Right ?
Do Democrats approve of soldiers kicking Iraqis in the head ? Or would this, like the interrogation technique funding and flag burning, just really more an issue that is resolved in theory by such a vote which has no bearing on banning anything in reality.
Something which would have achieved nothing more than getting a senator’s name in the paper for a theoretical position as it has done here.
There’s been a lot of insane justification for torture over the past 6 years but I do believe this is the first time anyone has suggested that the US has to torture Iraqis because the “torture fund” still has unspent money in it and you can’t stop till it’s all spent. Wow.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:30 amBut the committee stopped short of using its budget authority to shut down the [secret CIA interrogation] program.
“Let’s just gum this thing to death…”
June 1st, 2007 at 10:42 amComment by freedomrings — June 1, 2007 @ 10:25 am
Discussions regarding 911 are a good way to get yourself deleted around here. 911 discussions and theories tend to take over a blog, and I guess their thinking is that there are already blogs set up for that issue.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:44 amIn a closed session on May 23, two Democrats, Senators Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island and Dianne Feinstein of California, proposed barring spending on interrogation techniques that go beyond the Army Field Manual, which bans physical pressure or pain. … The amendment failed when Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, joined all the Republicans in voting no.
I’d suggest it failed for a variety of reasons.
On a pure practicality measure I’d have to ask, if this is considered a sane proposal, why no Democrat has proposed to cut military spending on techniques like soldiers kicking Iraqis in the head.
Clearly if you want something like that stopped cutting funding which has no bearing on it happening is the way to go. Right ?
Do Democrats approve of soldiers kicking Iraqis in the head ? Or would this, like the interrogation technique funding and flag burning, just really more an issue that is resolved in theory by such a vote which has no bearing on banning anything in reality.
Something which would have achieved nothing more than getting a senator’s name in the paper for a theoretical position as it has done here.
There’s been a lot of insane justification for torture over the past 6 years but I do believe this is the first time anyone has suggested that the US has to torture Iraqis because the “torture fund†still has unspent money in it and you can’t stop till it’s all spent. Wow.
Comment by Kilo — June 1, 2007 @ 10:30 am
If the assertion that 9-11 is false is true than the results of this vote help the government in by creating the illusion or appearance of party division in Congress.
If the assertion that 9-11 is true turns out to be correct than the division we see is an honest division from conflicted views created by legitimate fears of more attacks.
The point is that we don’t know what is true anymore and we are all stabbing in the dark till the mass murder of 9-11 is put to bed. I know that when I consider the events of 9-11 it is difficult to imagine that elements of our own people could perform such an act and be able to keep mute for so long but that is just me and I have difficulty with “living with guilt!â€
Since all of the officials in question are elected or appointed they are only temporary so I propose that the citizens rectify the situation by clearing house from top to bottom. These people mention their duty to the Constitution but then what about our duty to the same? With all of the contention, abuse, crime and apathy in the federal government clearing house would not make matters any worse.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:58 amDiscussions regarding 911 are a good way to get yourself deleted around here. 911 discussions and theories tend to take over a blog, and I guess their thinking is that there are already blogs set up for that issue.
Comment by Zooey — June 1, 2007 @ 10:44 am
Are you kidding? The title says Progressive. How can you not talk about 9-11 when it is the defining moment. We are slipping into oblivion or rising from the ashes.
June 1st, 2007 at 11:03 amThere may be hope yet.
June 1st, 2007 at 12:56 pmfreedomrings:
“If 9-11 was an attack on the US as advertised by the Government than supporting the war is vital.”
Even if 911 happened as the Government reported, that does NOT justify this war, since Iraq was in no way connected with 911. Surely you know this
June 1st, 2007 at 1:10 pm“If 9-11 was an attack on the US as advertised by the Government than supporting the war is vital.â€
Even if 911 happened as the Government reported, that does NOT justify this war, since Iraq was in no way connected with 911. Surely you know this
Comment by Wolfdaughter — June 1, 2007 @ 1:10 pm
I suppose they have a word filter here so I will phrase this, the best way I can. I’m under the impression the PNAC concept is in operation and our own government MIHOP! If that can be proved then those responsible should be fairly judged and then be fairly shot.
If islamofascists or the AlQuadia or whatever killed those nearly 4000 Americans on 9-11 (F) them all. Kill them all every one.
So as you can see, my point of view is that “who dunit†is a rather important question. I lost many friends on 9-11 and I was close enough that all of the pollution covered my area. I would have the same rage if it were the government. If you think that is a harsh view on my part keep in mind that I toned it down. You’re going to preach to me about some Gandhi type of thinking that tell me to turn the other cheek.
I went to 5 funerals that all there was, was a picture to look at. (F) anyone that is even close to being involved with this. Tell me my anger is not justified and then you know exactly what I will say to you so don’t bother. Back to the QUESTION “Who did 9-11??â€
June 1st, 2007 at 3:25 pmRemember this son-of-a-bitch, along with his cohorts come Judgment Day!
June 1st, 2007 at 4:07 pmIf islamofascists or the AlQuadia or whatever killed those nearly 4000 Americans on 9-11 (F) them all. Kill them all every one.
So as you can see, my point of view is that “who dunit†is a rather important question.
Comment by freedomrings — June 1, 2007 @ 10:58 am
No, your point appears to be that it isn’t an important question.
You’d look ridiculous saying that finding out what destroyed all those homes and flooded New Orleans was a very important question, then not bothering to find out what happened for the ensuing 2 years.
9/11, which killed 4000 people including several of your friends was 5 years ago.
Had a lot on have you ?
Got some American Idol to watch there eh ?
Want to finish off the last Harry Potter book before you bother reading the 9/11 commission report, Perfect Soldiers, The Cell, or The Looming Tower, or apparently anything at all about 9/11 I guess.
If you are able to seriously say that in 2007 you are still undecided as to whether the government was behind 9/11, or it was the people known to have done the al Qaeda training, flight training, hijacking and flying of the planes into the buildings, then you don’t also get to pretend you have any serious interest in what happened or that the answer is important to you.
June 1st, 2007 at 9:51 pmI know that when I consider the events of 9-11 it is difficult to imagine that elements of our own people could perform such an act….
…due to the complete lack of any evidence suggesting that they did ?
If that’s the case then why not imagine that Canadians did it instead ? You will be merely be trading one non-implicated group of people which you cannot deal with for another group you presumably can.
If you’re happy to assign blame for a hijacking to someone other than the hijackers and instead assign blame for people planting explosives in the WTC for no apparent reason, and that there is no evidence existed, then clearly you’re got the kind of flexibility needed to pin this on Canadians.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:07 pmNo, your point appears to be that it isn’t an important question.
You’d look ridiculous saying that finding out what destroyed all those homes and flooded New Orleans was a very important question, then not bothering to find out what happened for the ensuing 2 years.
9/11, which killed 4000 people including several of your friends was 5 years ago.
Had a lot on have you ?
Got some American Idol to watch there eh ?
Want to finish off the last Harry Potter book before you bother reading the 9/11 commission report, Perfect Soldiers, The Cell, or The Looming Tower, or apparently anything at all about 9/11 I guess.
If you are able to seriously say that in 2007 you are still undecided as to whether the government was behind 9/11, or it was the people known to have done the al Qaeda training, flight training, hijacking and flying of the planes into the buildings, then you don’t also get to pretend you have any serious interest in what happened or that the answer is important to you.
Comment by Kilo — June 1, 2007 @ 9:51 pm
Are you talking to me…Don’t bother…
June 1st, 2007 at 10:09 pmI’m sure the relatives of those killed on 9/11 tell you something similar.
June 2nd, 2007 at 12:26 am