Risking nuclear war, neocons tried to reverse China policy.
Risking nuclear war, neocons tried to reverse China policy.
“The same top Bush administration neoconservatives who leap-frogged Washington’s foreign policy establishment to topple Saddam Hussein nearly pulled off a similar coup in U.S.-China relations — creating the potential of a nuclear war over Taiwan, a top aide to former Secretary of State Colin Powell says.”
Lawrence B. Wilkerson, the U.S. Army colonel who was Powell’s chief of staff through two administrations, said in little-noted remarks early last month that “neocons” in the top rungs of the administration quietly encouraged Taiwanese politicians to move toward a declaration of independence from mainland China — an act that the communist regime has repeatedly warned would provoke a military strike.
The top U.S. diplomat in Taiwan at the time, Douglas Paal, backs up Wilkerson’s account, which is being hotly disputed by key former defense officials. [...]
While Bush publicly continued the one-China policy of his five White House predecessors, Wilkerson said, the Pentagon “neocons” took a different tack, quietly encouraging Taiwan’s pro-independence president, Chen Shui-bian.
“The Defense Department, with Feith, Cambone, Wolfowitz [and] Rumsfeld, was dispatching a person to Taiwan every week, essentially to tell the Taiwanese that the alliance was back on,” Wilkerson said, referring to pre-1970s military and diplomatic relations, “essentially to tell Chen Shui-bian, whose entire power in Taiwan rested on the independence movement, that independence was a good thing.”
Wilkerson said Powell would then dispatch his own envoy “right behind that guy, every time they sent somebody, to disabuse the entire Taiwanese national security apparatus of what they’d been told by the Defense Department.”
“This went on,” he said of the pro-independence efforts, “until George Bush weighed in and told Rumsfeld to cease and desist [and] told him multiple times to re-establish military-to-military relations with China.”
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And someone is surprised by this? Only 598 more days until adults are again in charge of the White House. If only our Consitution and our sanity can survive that long.
June 2nd, 2007 at 8:09 amWhy don’t we just blow every country that doesn’t have oil or Israel off the map?
Would that finally make Evil Cheney happy?
Hed still want more power.
Good grief.
June 2nd, 2007 at 8:31 amwe have monsters in control of foreign policy……no one seems to care…the stock market is doing quite nicely…& the weather is ok
June 2nd, 2007 at 9:07 amlock up all the neo-cons before they get america into more trouble
June 2nd, 2007 at 9:28 amWe have Liberal Socialist monsters that want control of foreign policy, they stand in formation and march in lockstep with Communist . Perhaps like in China we should limit Liberals to the same 1 child policy
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:07 amthat China has so that their ideology of Socialism can be bred out of existence : )
And someone is surprised by this? Only 598 more days until adults are again in charge of the White House. If only our Consitution and our sanity can survive that long.
Comment by Ben Dover
Sorry, I wouldn’t count an ANY adults ever being in office.
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:09 amwe have liberal monsters who want control of foreign policy . Liberals stand in formation and march in lockstep with Communist Dictators world wide . Perhaps we should limit liberals to the same 1 child policy that China has and breed their Communist Ideology out of existence in this Country . : )
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:15 amComing from an individual with the adolescent name of “Ben dover”.
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:19 amJust as in Reagan’s Presidency, the ideologues Bush appointed see him as a weak frontman that they can exploit and use for hatching their own secret plots and powerplays.
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:21 amPerhaps this is why Bush keeps freaking out, yelling “I’m the Commander!”, “I’m the Decider!”, because he’s always the last one to know what Cheney’s gang is doing behind his back.
Bush, like Reagan is basically the pliable dupe for evil men.
Sounds so familiar. Like when after the Gulf War the Shiites were encouraged to over throw Sadaam Hussein and Poppy stood by why they all got slaughtered. And the Taiwanese Independence people were going to trust these guys? Sheesh.
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:25 am“Liberals stand in formation and march in lockstep with Communist Dictators world wide . ”
Oh really, would you care to enlighten us. Can you tell us what “Communist Dictators” the liberals are supporting?
Put your money where your mouth is or STFU.
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:27 amComment by Harry Truman — June 2, 2007 @ 10:15 am
Yo, Harry…right after we start to hang neocons from lightposts…rope is ready here…time’s a wastin’…
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:28 amWho will rid us of this loony cabal??
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:33 amHey Ben Dover I have a question since John Kennedy was President how many Democrats have been elected as President ? Lets Count together , there was Johnson 1 term then our worst President Carter 1 term , then there was Clinton two terms . now that is 3 Democrat Presidents with a total of 4 terms of 4 yrs. Now How many Republicans , there was Nixon two terms , Ford but we won’t count him .Then there was Reagan 2 terms , then H.W. Bush 1 term . Then G.W. Bush 2 terms. The Republicans had 4 Presidents excluding Gerald Ford , with a total off seven 4 year terms .
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:38 amPerhaps you are a little too optimistic
Yer’ out of yer’ freekin’ mind if you even think about poking China in the eye.
These folks only recently pulled themselves out of the stone age and have become an overnight industrial/quasi-capitalist behemoth (you can’t have more than a billion people without having quite a few geniuses among them).
The point is, these people are much closer to the earth than us cushy, overfed, self-absorbed Americans. Trust me: you don’t want to fu(k with a lean, hungry, reality-based populace with little to loose and much to gain by fighting back. Once the nukefest died down, we’d be overrun.
Shit talkin’ neocons need to STFU.
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:41 amKate Henry well here goes Fidel Castro . Hugo Chavez for starter jimmy the peanut man has never met a dictator that he did not like . Polosi and Cindy both love Hugo .
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:42 amif you are not a liberal at 20 you have no heart
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:45 amif you are a liberal at 50 you have no brain
Larry Truman:
And look where that freekin’ gang of criminals you listed have gotten us. Democratic principles are what got us to the point where dickheads like you weren’t relegated to hillbilly coal miner status in some godforsaken holler in Kentucky, or the like. Public education, rural electrification, the space program and it’s technological byproducts, a huge manufacturing/industrial sector, the best public health standards and the healthiest population in the history of the world, global military security, to name a few.
So, what’cha got?
STFU and crawl back in your hole, you pathetic bootlicker.
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:48 amsticks and stones may break my bones but you people are really funny . bring on with your your rope you can use my lamp post, but I’ll tell you this that last 100 yrds are going to be very bloody and you will need to step over a bunch of your dead friends . : ) you see I not only exercise my 1st amendment right I also exercise my 2nd amendment right also
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:49 amLike I said: STFU, punk.
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:52 amThe neocons are yet again shown to be mad men. They give me a reason for keeping Guantanamo Bay open.
I suggest it be turned into a neocon retirement home. Ship them all there and let the plan wars to their hearts’ content. With them out of circulation in Gitmo, the world would become a much safer place.
Alternatively, ship them to Iraq and assign them to small exposed police stations in Anbar Province where they can display their heroism when their cowardly asses are put in harms war.
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:54 amsmafdy as for your comment ,your dictator friend Sadam lived and was found in a hole, I do not need one I walk among you on Bardstown road in louisville Ky . also known as the Hippy/liberal district . and your brethern look at me with fear .
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:00 amOld Intel Officer/Viet Vet I’ll bet you were hehehe wink .
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:04 amwell besides you jokers and their hero vet liers . can any of your people defend you childish and silly beliefs ?
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:05 amI walk among you on Bardstown road in louisville Ky . also known as the Hippy/liberal district . and your brethern look at me with fear .
Comment by Harry Truman
That’s frickin’ hilarious, HT.
People often fear the insane….
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:09 amfunny how liberals call conservatives criminals all the time the same as communist dictators call people of political decent criminal .
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:10 amCheney wants to ignite global WWIII and kill us all. He must be impeached.
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:11 amis name calling all you pussys can do ? I mean really you should be able to defend your position , but you can’t . sad really sad
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:16 amSo Harry @16
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:19 amWhich are you? The scarecrow, the tinsman, or the lion? Most “liberals” have heard of a hue known as grey
#18
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:22 amI have said it before and I will say it again. Why are you guns nuts such pussies? It has to be that small dick issue. I prefer to show how tough I am by actually getting my hands dirty.
well dbadass get your hands dirty and bring your rope and your girlfriend I’ll show her my dick after I finish with you : ) wink
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:27 amna naa na naaa naaaaa liberal cowards and pussies hehehe . Charlie Rangle is Right we need a Draft to turn you boys into men
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:30 amGod I love this website : )
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:31 amSounds sort of intriguing but I foresee an alternate ending and besides I was not the poster of the lynching suggestion. I was more curious about how guns make pussies feel like men. Also as a boatsman I refer to it as line. None the less “Give em Hell Harry” as the weekend offers many outdoor activities. Please stick around to amuse those stuck indoors
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:35 amTime to scroll past Harry Truman. He is one of the 28%ers, hence unworthy of attention.
Don’t feed the trolls!
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:43 amif you exercise your 1st. amendment right as a Conservative you are called names and threatened , if you do so as a Liberal you are a Patriot . if you exercise your 2nd amendment right as a conservative you are a gun nut . I get it now . Pussies
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:45 am35
Excellent point. Now I understand your comments at #32
- Devil’s ad is correct plus the sun is out (well atleast here). LET”S GO!!!!!
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:51 am“Harry Truman” blah blah blah…
God save is from spastic 15 year olds that have just switched from Captain America to Fox News.
Hey Truman, how would like it to have your hometown bombed flat, your siter strung up, your mom raped and shot and daddy ripped into a few pieces by a well-placed RPG? Enjoy…
June 2nd, 2007 at 1:35 pmYou will of course recall that setting off an incident with China was Bush’s first foreign policy ‘blunder’ — a U.S. spy plane which ‘collided’ with a Chinese fighter jet, killing the Chinese pilot — which resulted in the spy plane landing without authorization on a Chinese island, and being in Chinese custody along with her crew for several weeks.
April 01, 2001. So many tragedies ago. April Fools!
And but the first of the national security breaches under Bush:
“Chinese military did board the plane, but it is not known if they retrieved any sensitive information.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident
“China says the U.S. EP-3 surveillance plane veered suddenly into him and sent his aircraft crashing into the South China Sea.
Wang bailed out while the American plane made an emergency landing on China’s Hainan Island.
China detained the 24 crew of the spy plane but freed them on Thursday after Washington said it was “very sorry” Wang had died and that the EP-3 had landed without permission.”
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/east/04/15/china.pilot/
June 2nd, 2007 at 3:44 pmMan, does Bush know he is going to go down as the worst president in history… that is… it will be his symbol around the world…. is he not embarrassed by that???
June 3rd, 2007 at 11:21 amTraitors. They should be tried for their crimes.
June 3rd, 2007 at 9:39 pm