Boehner will try to force Jefferson expulsion.
Boehner will try to force Jefferson expulsion.
“House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) moved quickly to force the expulsion of Rep. William Jefferson (D-LA) from Congress following his indictment Monday on federal corruption charges. The Republican leader will ask members of the House to vote on a resolution requiring the ethics committee to review the indictment filed against him in order to seek his expulsion from the House, according to his office.”
VERSUS
Boehner on the retirement of criminally-indicted Rep. Tom DeLay (R-TX), April 2006:
The country owes Tom a great debt of gratitude for helping lead America in a new direction — a direction outlined in the Contract with America that saw balanced budgets, historic welfare reforms, lower taxes, regulatory relief, and a renewed respect for the sanctity of life.
He has served our nation with integrity and honor, and I’m honored to call him my colleague and friend.
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Was he CRYING when he made this statement?
June 4th, 2007 at 6:14 pm(Boehner, with his back braced against his closet door, as the skeletons begin to spill out:)
"Look! Over there!"
June 4th, 2007 at 6:15 pmI agree with Boner for once. Jefferson needs to go.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:16 pmBoehner is totally out of luck and he should KNOW that.
Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. was thrown out of Congress for ethics issues. The matter went to the Supreme Court and they ruled against Congress on the issue.
This type of thing was resolved in 1970 Powell versus McCormack.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:16 pmI do agree with Bohner on this one. It shouldn't matter if you're democratic or republican, if you get indicted, you get the boot.
Yes though, its a shame he wasn't as brutal with Delay, but thats how it always is.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:17 pmRAPE-PUBLIC-CAN CREED = DO AS WE SAY, NOT AS WE DO.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:17 pmAnd his resignation came, what - seven months afer he was indicted? Am I wrong about that?
June 4th, 2007 at 6:18 pmWhat was that minority, impotent, irrelevent hypocrite....did you say something? Yeah thought not.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:18 pmAbsolutely. All corrupt politicians must go, no matter how much water they've carried for your party, Boehner!
June 4th, 2007 at 6:19 pmMaybe the republican shouldn't have changed the rules about indicted congressmen then.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:19 pmDid Boehner cry when Delay left him..?!
June 4th, 2007 at 6:20 pmbased on what bonedoctor has said, he should resign knowing he has helped obstruct justice in the matter of USA v. T. Delay. How many other crimes has he committed? $880K for an audio tape talking to newt? what did you say bone? are you that embarrassed that you would pay nearly a million bucks for a cassette tape?
June 4th, 2007 at 6:21 pmguess we should have the right to know what you are so afraid of. If we really had a radical left wing spin machine, the following headline might be suggested; "Boehner admits to being a part of Jefferson's scheme with Tom Delay and aided their plot to destroy the Mississippi river basin"
damn truth and it's liberal bias, damn it all
jefferson should resign.
if he's adjudicated innocent fine...let him run again.
i'm not going to say i agree with anything boner says though.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:22 pmPelosi out-maneuvered.
Again.
Pretty soon we'll have to ask if it is incompetence, or willful deception.
So far it ain't looking good.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:22 pmJefferson needs to go. If Nancy can't or won't, then bully for Boehner, even if he is a big hypocrite and a Republican... but I repeat myself.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:23 pmoh please, this is like what Pelosi said about Jefferson versus what she said about Delay.
my poor, naive, uneducated, dumb sycophant followers.
we do the same thing all the time.
we side with our party members and throw Republicans under the bus all the time.
only a bunch of whiners and idiots would cry about the different treatment.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:23 pmIs this Rep. William "Cold Cash" Jefferson? $90,000 in the fridge?
June 4th, 2007 at 6:25 pmRAPE-PUBLIC-CAN CREED = DO AS WE SAY, NOT AS WE DO.
Comment by Heterodoxy — June 4, 2007 @ 6:17 pm
Got it wrong boy, that is our Creed, the Democratic party creed!
while we attack Halliburton, we own stock with Halliburton. While we attack oil companies, we have stocks in oil companies.
while we complain that minorities aren't hired, we don't hire minorities.
while Edward, Kerry, me, my wife, murtha, pelosi, etc whine about taxes, we don't pay anywhere near the amount of taxes others pay.
while we cry about global warming, we use all type of private jet planes, SUVs, etc that pollute more than anything that the average american might do or use.
we trash and attack capitalism at any chance we have, we don't want capitalsim for the masses, yet we use capitalism to be filthy rich.
yes, my Democratic sycophant followers, do as I say and not as I do.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:26 pm"Is this Rep. William “Cold Cash†Jefferson? $90,000 in the fridge?"
Comment by Flaco
Yep, sure is.
(Boehner knows better.....)
June 4th, 2007 at 6:29 pmHey, Prez C! You gonna try to resurrect your "Republican ethics rules require immediate expulsion" trick again?
Should we give William Jefferson the same eight months that it took Tom Delay to resign? Or less, because Jefferson doesn't have a party primary to run in over the next eight months?
June 4th, 2007 at 6:29 pmIt is worth comparing the Democrats' disciplining of Jefferson to the Republican “criminalization of politics†defense for their lengthy list of miscreants.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:34 pmOf course Jefferson should go. But we don't need that crybaby, criminal-defending hypocrite to tell us that.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:34 pmInnocent until proven guilty still stands, doesn't it? But if this succeeds and Jefferson goes, well the same standard need apply when Ted Stevens and Jerry Lewis are indicted.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:34 pmWhat a jackass. Still, I'd support giving Jefferson the third degree based on whatever new ethics rules the Democrats passed.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:36 pmIs this Rep. William “Cold Cash†Jefferson? $90,000 in the fridge?
Comment by Flaco — June 4, 2007 @ 6:25 pm
Yep, and it's also "I'm not beholding any favors to the Lobbyist that leases my apartment at a 'discount' for me" Boehner. Not to mention, ignore my involvement with Abramoff, and ignore my involvement in the "Student Loan Scandal/Scam" Boehner. And last but not least, forget that I pretend to be a "Strong" leader, when I can cry like an "actress" at the drop of a hat, Boehner...
June 4th, 2007 at 6:38 pmmost of congress should resign...no one's hands are clean, but i still refuse to say i agree with anything boner says.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:39 pm#19 , yes the cash was in the 'freezer'...
June 4th, 2007 at 6:39 pmhis excuse- Bank froze his account.
RAPE-PUBLIC-CAN CREED = DO AS WE SAY, NOT AS WE DO.
Truth hurts in oh so many ways.
Writhe on troll, writhe on.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:40 pmJefferson deserves the same amount of time to remain in Congress as was given to Tom Delay. Not one more or one less day in Congress. What's fair is fair.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:41 pmand the wind blows and changes direction,
June 4th, 2007 at 6:42 pmand the money flows in from different directions,
and the politicians do whatever they damm please,
and Boehner thinks it's a good idea to go after one crooked politician instead of all of them because people might notice now,
and the band plays on.
Jefferson was worried about his wife might find out about the cash in the freezer,thaw the cash by warming it up in her pocket,and spend the freezer money.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:44 pmDemocratic integrity at its best!
June 4th, 2007 at 6:45 pmPrez C troll RANK YOUR FAVORITE FAILURES
The Hunt for Osama.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:46 pmThe hunt for Mullah Omar.
The hunt for WMD's.
Social Security reform.
Harriet Miers nomination.
Healthcare reform.
Iraqi civil war.
Stage II of Pre-war intelligence.
Katrina rebuilding.
Restoring integrity to the office.
Reducing the debt.
Ports deal.
Susan Ralston.
Philip A. Cooney, the chief of staff to President Bush’s Council on Environmental Quality.
Grand Moff Baker.
Gonzogate.
Tobias.
David Safavian.
Scooter Libby.
Claude A. Allen.
Tom Delay's Money laundering trial.
Ney Conviction.
Foleygate.
Cunningham Conviction.
State of Denial.
Ahbramoff.
Missing 8 billion Iraq funds.
Extended tours for military.
Record bankruptcy’s.
1.3 TRILLION tax give away while waging two wars.
Increasing National debt to 8.5 TRILLION.
The UN's irrelevancy.
Yellowcake uranium from Niger .
Tax cuts for the ultra wealthy.
Skyrocketing energy prices.
Stagnant wages.
Iraq Clusterf***.
Taliban resurgence.
Guest visa give-away. (thats your favorite right Xenophobe?)
N. Korea with Nukes on Bush watch.
$20 barrel for oil when Chimpy came to office.
Iran dominance?
Jefferson deserves the same amount of time to remain in Congress as was given to Tom Delay. Not one more or one less day in Congress. What’s fair is fair.
Comment by Coffins draped with flags
Good thing you are not a judge. What a mind you have. Scary.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:48 pmStiffy has SMS (short memory syndrome) like the other pukes in his party.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:49 pm33
June 4th, 2007 at 6:49 pmDamn a copy & paste Google monkey
Flaco sez:
Does that somehow invalidate his point, Flaco?
If so, explain why.
If not, respond to the "Google monkey".
June 4th, 2007 at 6:55 pmYep, Boehner is right, Jefferson should go. Too bad the hypocritical Republicans didn't boot John "Crybaby" Boehner for covering for Mark Foley.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:59 pmDoes that somehow invalidate his point, Flaco?
If so, explain why.
Bipartisan???
June 4th, 2007 at 7:01 pmJefferson needs to go.
Boehner is a hypocrite.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:01 pmGet rid of all these corrupt asses- regardless of party.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:03 pmFlaco sez:
That's your explanation? One word?
Flaco, do yourself a favor and put down the airplane glue. That stuff causes permanent damage, you know...
June 4th, 2007 at 7:04 pmBipartisan???
Comment by Flaco
Are you asking, limp dick?
June 4th, 2007 at 7:07 pmThere are two separate points here:
one, the more critical point, is the likelihood the Rep. Jefferson is monstrously corrupt. As such, it is the shame of his district that they returned him to Congress last November, and he should resign his seat today.
the second, more amusing point, is the predictable double-standard of the right wing -- in this case, House MINORITY leader John "the Boner" Boehner. He demands that Jefferson be expelled from the House, yet refused to call for similar action when Tom Delay was indicted in September 2005. Why the different responses to remarkably similar circumstances?
The only clear differences are race and political party. So either Boehner is a racist or he's a partisan hack. Either way, he's got no credibility.
(By the way, my money's on political hack.)
June 4th, 2007 at 7:11 pmWhat a hypocrite.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:18 pmDemocratic integrity at its best!
Comment by Flaco — June 4, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
When you tell Boehner to move out of his "subsidized" Lobbyist owned apartment - you won't seem like such an ignorant whiny little hypocrite...
June 4th, 2007 at 7:18 pmBipartisan???
Comment by Flaco — June 4, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
BAHAHA, you shouldn't use a word, that you don't understand the meaning of - ignorant *ssh*le...
June 4th, 2007 at 7:19 pmFlaco is sounding a little unhinged. The bitterness on the right is astounding.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:23 pm#36 Flaco - Thats my original ever expanding list. Thank you for the compliment that it is professional. Sad you don't blink at the atrocities. When did you last moral fiber die and how heavy is your water today?
June 4th, 2007 at 7:26 pmWilliam Jefferson Who? He needs to go. And the boner as well. Next election cycle we need new faces. Obviously both republican and Democrat.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:27 pmMaybe an Indpendent? A real Jefferson type. A real Represenative of the People. Nobody like a Hillary or a Paul.
Looks like the liberal defense squad for Jefferson has arrived.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:28 pmCriminals need to go, no matter what party they are in.
That is the difference between libs and cons, the cons love their criminals and support them to the end.
Hating criminals daily
June 4th, 2007 at 7:28 pmHe has no leg to stand on in this. This is the guy who passed money around the floor of the house. This is the guy who defended the slimey Tom Delay - and still defends him. This is the drunkard who cries when he's had a long and liquid lunch before speaking on the House floor.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:30 pmJefferson may be 100% guilty - we will know soon enough - and his punishment should be swift and just. But for the time being, Boehner should keep his mouth shut - whe he opens his mouth he talks nonsense, or, as last week, he blubbers nonsense.
m"12"
Is graduation late this year?
June 4th, 2007 at 7:32 pmOr didn't you make it...?
Democratic integrity at its best!
Comment by Flaco
Give me a break!
Both parties are corrupt, it's not just the Democrats.
Stupid party hack.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:33 pmLooks like the liberal defense squad for Jefferson has arrived.
Comment by m12
Errr... where?
June 4th, 2007 at 7:34 pmJefferson should hang tough. If the Republicans can keep umpteen criminals in office, we can keep one.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:35 pmIs "m12" text message shorthand for "Me one, too" which would explain why this troll is so supportive of neocon corruption and stupidity?
June 4th, 2007 at 7:39 pm#56
Post right below yours.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:40 pmm12 sez:
Where? Point out the posters who are "defending" Jefferson.
I assume that there are at least two, since you described them as a "squad".
June 4th, 2007 at 7:40 pmbonehead......pot calls kettle black?......please just shut up as you are making even more of a FOOL than you already are.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:41 pmlet's see what Boner says when Doolittle (R-CA) gets pinched..then if doolittle goes, then so should jefferson.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:46 pmI thought m12 was code for eliminatory (m)ovements 1 and 2.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:46 pmI thought m12 was code for eliminatory (m)ovements 1 and 2.
Comment by heyzeus
I thought it was a simple code as you would see in a license plate.
For instance, my mother had a white VW rabbit and the license read: IML8
This is a little more simple, but consider the source.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:50 pmIt's pretty sad that Pelosi and Hoyer are getting scooped on this. I mean this hardly came out of the blue. They really didn't think they'd need a game plan for the first 24 hours after the indictments came out? Cripes.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:53 pmBoehner on fellow corrupt Republican Bob Ney, just after Ney's admission of guilt (from the Cleveland Plain Dealer):
House Republican leaders have not discussed expelling Ohio GOP Rep Bob Ney from Congress if he does not immediately resign, House Majority Leader John Boehner told reporters today.
Until Ney enters a formal guilty plea on Oct 13, Boehner said it's possible he could change his mind, or details of the plea agreement could change.
"A lot of things are going to happen between now and then and I would prefer to allow this decision to be his. Until he has his day in court, I don't think it's up to me to comment what he should or shouldn't do."
June 4th, 2007 at 7:53 pmI agree with Boner for once. Jefferson needs to go.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 4, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
And I don't like that TP attempts to negate Jefferson's behaviour with references to Tom DeLay's sh!thead, criminal behaviour from a hack like Boner!! They are both criminals to the core and TP needs to fix this post to make that clear!!
2 Wrongs Faiz!!!???
June 4th, 2007 at 7:56 pm"This is a little more simple, but consider the source."
Comment by gummitch
got it...
"I'm 12"
June 4th, 2007 at 7:56 pmAnd I don’t like that TP attempts to negate Jefferson’s behaviour with references to Tom DeLay’s sh!thead, criminal behaviour from a hack like Boner!! They are both criminals to the core and TP needs to fix this post to make that clear!!
2 Wrongs Faiz!!!???
Comment by dixie blood — June 4, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
Is it too much to ask to keep straight two different concepts?
One: Jefferson looks very guilty and should go.
Two: Boehner's double standard regarding House members under indictment says a lot about the Republican leadership and should be exposed.
I think both concepts can be discussed without them morphing into "TP is claiming two wrongs make a right." Most of us here (trolls excepted) can harbor two or more different ideas in our heads at the same time.
June 4th, 2007 at 8:10 pmdixie blood
TP is not negating Jefferson's behavior but is pointing out more of Boehner's hypocrisy.
June 4th, 2007 at 8:10 pmWas Boner crying again?...What a con...CUA!!
June 4th, 2007 at 8:10 pmgot it…
“I’m 12″
Comment by heyzeus
You got it in one.
June 4th, 2007 at 8:18 pmWhere? Point out the posters who are “defending†Jefferson.
How about this one?
"Jefferson should hang tough. If the Republicans can keep umpteen criminals in office, we can keep one."
June 4th, 2007 at 8:23 pmWill Pelosi strip Jefferson of his leadership position at least?
June 4th, 2007 at 8:32 pmWill Pelosi strip Jefferson of his leadership position at least?
Nope. The CBC has veto power over Queen Nancy.
June 4th, 2007 at 8:35 pmm12,
First, that ONE post you isn't exactly defending Jefferson, it's just saying what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Something I don't really agree with in this situation. Jefferson needs to go. I try not to fall into that "Well they did it too" whiny *ss game.
Second, a single of anything doesn't exactly make a "squad".
Third, why are you only intereted in being a whiny little b*tch and never interested in actually discussing matters? Did you even bother to see that the vast majority (if not every sinlge last post) here (and the other Jefferson thread) is saying he's gotta go? I guess that just makes you another typically ill-informed, uninterested in truth righty.
June 4th, 2007 at 8:42 pmWill Pelosi strip Jefferson of his leadership position at least?
Comment by Jake — June 4, 2007 @ 8:32 pm
Will Pelosi strip Jefferson of his leadership position at least?
Nope. The CBC has veto power over Queen Nancy.
Comment by m12 — June 4, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
(get a room where you can watch each other play with yourselves)
June 4th, 2007 at 8:47 pmWill I post something stupid?
- Jake
Yes, and I will agree with it.
June 4th, 2007 at 8:50 pm- m12
What leadership position does Jefferson hold?
June 4th, 2007 at 8:56 pmHe was kicked off of committee by Pelosi months ago
Jefferson was quietly put on Homeland Security after the first of the year to "make up" for having to take him off of Ways & Means to fool the electorate.
June 4th, 2007 at 10:30 pmWill he cry like a baby until he gets what he wants?
June 4th, 2007 at 10:44 pmHeterodoxy, I love the list. Don't forget the underfunding of the Veteran's Administration and the Walter Reed Scandal.
This got almost 3 minutes exposure on CBS News. If I remember correctly, the DeLay indictment, got what, 15 seconds of coverage!
June 4th, 2007 at 10:57 pmsoooooooooooooooooooooooooo, Boner takes up the call of the white man and lynches the black
June 4th, 2007 at 10:57 pmBONER does NOT control the House of Representatives. It's up to Speaker of the House Pelosi to decide if and when Jefferson resigns from his House seat.
June 4th, 2007 at 11:29 pmActually, it's not up to the Speaker when / if Jefferson resigns. It's up to him. It would set a bad precedent to expel any un-convicted Congressman based on an indictment. He has not been convicted (yet).
I think the appropriate steps would be to strip Jefferson of his remaining committee assignment. And what else is there to do? They can't stop him from voting on things on the House floor (which they shouldn't try to do). They could expel him from the Democratic caucus, but would that really make any difference?
June 5th, 2007 at 12:56 amNOTE to the crying Boner: For crying out loud! Lynch the indicted African Anerican; forgive and forget the indicted Hammer? Are you still channeling Bull Conner?
June 5th, 2007 at 2:13 amUnless Bohner is ready and prepared to impeach Alberto Gonzales he needs to go back to the bar and cry in his drink over why he came to Congress and how he wants to defend us.
Imagine, him defending us !!?
June 5th, 2007 at 3:00 amif only william jeffersons last name was clinton he would have gotten away with it . : )
June 5th, 2007 at 8:15 amJefferson needs to be kicked out. He's a disgrace.
June 5th, 2007 at 9:10 amI do not see but one poster who is a democrat calling for Jefferson to remain. So m12...show us all of those who are demanding he stay. Much like a Rush follower they claim something that isnt even true or can be backed up with evidence. They hope by just saying it that it becomes gospel....Such a pathetic batch of liars
June 5th, 2007 at 10:18 amFoster Brooks made a nice living as a very convincing drunk in his comedy act. To bad the congressman from Ohio isn't acting. I do agree that congressman Jefferson must be dealt with but can we please try and exercise a little consistency here. There are, after all, a couple more of these indictments on the way.
June 5th, 2007 at 10:27 amLooks bad for Jefferson. Dispite all the reported evidence it should be business as usual until he is proven guilty. There is no comparison as far as amount of courruption Delay got away with,even if Jeffersonis found guilty. Until keep working as usual. They are all corrupt, revolt stop the war before 08
June 6th, 2007 at 11:48 amHere we go again...white america commits a crime there is every reasonable doubt issue in the book put up as to why they can't remove the person or put them in jail or an outright blatent, pardon the person, using it wasn't their fault, they're just the scapegoat. When a minority is involved in the same type of crime, it's lynch-em...throw the book at him. Yes, Jefferson should go to jail if he is convicted (personally, I wish there was a17th indictment... for being stupid). However, 235 years? Second, should he be removed before conviction? Not if you haven't done it for the previous indicted Congressmen. So now, Congress gets morals and want to do what's right? Pl..e.a.s.e!This is the same argument the rest of the world uses when discussing our foreign policy the ss is lopesided. Timing is the problem. Congress needed to fixed this problem when they first arrived in office. It was a problem before they arrived, during they're arrival and still is today. Instead of voting to correct this problem when they first arrived, they elected to do nothing. Now, they want to pass legislation? So afraid it'll hurt them in the polls. Jefferson should be afforded the same bs cover they gave to Tom Delay and the rest of the gang. Does anyone think Bush's pardon of libby will mean he'll pardon Jefferson. if you do, I have some swampland for you. On a final note, we've known for the past 200 plus years, what the rest of the world is just beginning to realize, that america's fairness is all smoke and mirrors. So, give the delay's of the world the ability to decide when, where and how they should bow out. Allowing them to leave gracefully with their dignity intact and march the jefferson's of the world out in handcuffs. Whiny or not, i don't think so.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:28 pm