Comments on: Conservatives Who Called For Gonzales’ Resignation Silent On No-Confidence Vote http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:43:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Paul http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3853894 Paul Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:16:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3853894 What a bunch of wimps we now have in Washington. You vote Republican to try and preserve what little is left of hope for America and decency and they turn around and play political games failing to dump an Attorney General who is a disgrace and also are caving in on the issue of amnesty for illegals. I will never again vote for another Republican What a bunch of wimps we now have in Washington. You vote Republican to try and preserve what little is left of hope for America and decency and they turn around and play political games failing to dump an Attorney General who is a disgrace and also are caving in on the issue of amnesty for illegals. I will never again vote for another Republican

]]> By: SadButTrue http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3840649 SadButTrue Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:50:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3840649 How far does it have to go before the Senators themselves can be said to be conspiring to obstruct justice? That's what it looked like they were doing during the time that the Republicans had a majority, and they are STILL doing it. They are all guilty of treason. They have pledged to uphold and defend the constitution, but seem more concerned with whatever secret oaths they have sworn to the Republican Party, Skull and Bones, Big Oil, and whoever else lurks in the shadows. Bastards!! How far does it have to go before the Senators themselves can be said to be conspiring to obstruct justice? That’s what it looked like they were doing during the time that the Republicans had a majority, and they are STILL doing it.

They are all guilty of treason. They have pledged to uphold and defend the constitution, but seem more concerned with whatever secret oaths they have sworn to the Republican Party, Skull and Bones, Big Oil, and whoever else lurks in the shadows.

Bastards!!

]]> By: Ward Whitley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3840301 Ward Whitley Tue, 05 Jun 2007 12:58:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3840301 Quit whining about all of this.. instead go to the heart of the matter. Gonzales is NOT enforcing US laws as his oath of office requires. If he were, we would not have been invaded by 20 million illegals. Impeach him for that alone. Firing US attys is his and Presidents legal authority. So get over that. Then after you get Gonzo, go get Bush for failure to stop an invasion and to expel invaders. That is Bushes legal responsibility. Problem then solved. Quit whining about all of this.. instead go to the heart of the matter.

Gonzales is NOT enforcing US laws as his oath of office requires. If he were, we would not have been invaded by 20 million illegals. Impeach him for that alone.

Firing US attys is his and Presidents legal authority. So get over that.

Then after you get Gonzo, go get Bush for failure to stop an invasion and to expel invaders. That is Bushes legal responsibility.

Problem then solved.

]]> By: nofltwlt http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3839912 nofltwlt Tue, 05 Jun 2007 02:50:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3839912 Members of the GOP are not just crooked, they are stupid. If they do not do the right thing, stomp Gonzales into the ground, they will be voted from office in 2008. Members of the GOP are not just crooked, they are stupid. If they do not do the right thing, stomp Gonzales into the ground, they will be voted from office in 2008.

]]> By: FunMe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3839465 FunMe Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:15:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3839465 GREAT! I can't wait for TV political campaign when they are up for relection reminding voters of their "silence" or no vote. They are going to be outseted big time from their offices! The bush ship continues to sink ... and they will go down with him. :-) GREAT!

I can’t wait for TV political campaign when they are up for relection reminding voters of their “silence” or no vote.

They are going to be outseted big time from their offices!

The bush ship continues to sink … and they will go down with him. :-)

]]> By: The Big E http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3839249 The Big E Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:51:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3839249 Norm Coleman (R-MN) stated most clearly on <a href="http://www.mnblue.com/usatty_purge" rel="nofollow">Twin Cities Public TV's Almanac</a> show on 5/18/2007 that he has no confidence in Alberto Gonzales and that he should resign. He made several other printed statements, but written <em>Norm-speak</em> is usually not very illuminating. However, its not surprising that Norm might not vote for the resolution. Just because he's clearly positioned himself in a certain way doesn't mean that he will actually follow through. He has remained very loyal to the Bush Administration during his tenure and it wouldn't be surprising for him to continue. I've got more details on this at the: <a href="http://www.mnblue.com/norm_coleman_weasel_meter" rel="nofollow">Norm Coleman Weasel Meter</a> Norm Coleman (R-MN) stated most clearly on Twin Cities Public TV’s Almanac show on 5/18/2007 that he has no confidence in Alberto Gonzales and that he should resign. He made several other printed statements, but written Norm-speak is usually not very illuminating.

However, its not surprising that Norm might not vote for the resolution. Just because he’s clearly positioned himself in a certain way doesn’t mean that he will actually follow through.

He has remained very loyal to the Bush Administration during his tenure and it wouldn’t be surprising for him to continue. I’ve got more details on this at the:

Norm Coleman Weasel Meter

]]> By: Katie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3838991 Katie Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:19:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3838991 I say let McConnell tie up congress with mischief. It will just make the Republics look like the obstructionists they really are. The people are on to you Republics. Pulling tricks like you are proposing will only make you look worse than you do right now. I say go for it. One more nail in the coffin of what was once the Republic party. I say let McConnell tie up congress with mischief. It will just make the Republics look like the obstructionists they really are. The people are on to you Republics. Pulling tricks like you are proposing will only make you look worse than you do right now. I say go for it. One more nail in the coffin of what was once the Republic party.

]]> By: Bryan F. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3838767 Bryan F. Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:08:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3838767 I just wrote my senator, Gordon Smith and gave him an earful. Gonzales is an embarassment to the Bush administration and the entire country. What a shill. I just wrote my senator, Gordon Smith and gave him an earful. Gonzales is an embarassment to the Bush administration and the entire country. What a shill.

]]> By: Douglas G. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3838741 Douglas G. Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:59:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3838741 DANG!! Looks like the repugs have taken a page out of the dumbocrats playbook! I LOVE being a constitutionalist and seeing how both sides are screwing the American public, ans then blaming the others.. ROTFLMAO DANG!! Looks like the repugs have taken a page out of the dumbocrats playbook! I LOVE being a constitutionalist and seeing how both sides are screwing the American public, ans then blaming the others.. ROTFLMAO

]]> By: Squonk http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3838718 Squonk Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:54:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3838718 <strong>Cowards</strong>. Cowards.

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3838388 Jay Randal Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:03:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3838388 According to m12 everything is fabulous in Bushlandia, as long as you drink the spiked Bush Kool-Aid. According to m12 everything is fabulous in Bushlandia, as long as you drink the spiked Bush Kool-Aid.

]]> By: labs http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3838377 labs Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:59:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3838377 and you were absolutely right zooey! time for my next fix. ;) and you were absolutely right zooey!

time for my next fix. ;)

]]> By: Ben B http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3838352 Ben B Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:50:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3838352 a) A no confidence vote is pretty worthless. Gonzo is the only buffer Bush has for trying to use the justice department to rig elections. The worse Gonzo looks, the less blame Bush gets. Gonzo will not resign, nor will he be forced to resign. b) The only way for Gonzo not to serve out his term is impeachment. Unfortunately, there are not enough votes for that. Too bad a few red state congressmen are benefiting from this kind of abuse at justice, and even more are benefiting from the ensuing polarized political environment. If normal people were closer together in the US, the liberals would have their arguments listened to, rather than being demonized and dismissed. If liberal arguments are listened to, honestly, these republican congressmen will be out of jobs. Sadly, there's no way around it. Reckoning day '08 is what we have to hope (and work) for... a) A no confidence vote is pretty worthless. Gonzo is the only buffer Bush has for trying to use the justice department to rig elections. The worse Gonzo looks, the less blame Bush gets. Gonzo will not resign, nor will he be forced to resign.

b) The only way for Gonzo not to serve out his term is impeachment. Unfortunately, there are not enough votes for that. Too bad a few red state congressmen are benefiting from this kind of abuse at justice, and even more are benefiting from the ensuing polarized political environment. If normal people were closer together in the US, the liberals would have their arguments listened to, rather than being demonized and dismissed. If liberal arguments are listened to, honestly, these republican congressmen will be out of jobs.

Sadly, there’s no way around it. Reckoning day ‘08 is what we have to hope (and work) for…

]]> By: me http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3838336 me Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:45:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3838336 No Confidence, my ass. That SOB should be impeached, prosecuted, and imprisoned! Along with all the rest of this criminal administration. But the SPINELESS DEMOCRATS won't do it, because they suck almost as much as the scumpublicans. No Confidence, my ass. That SOB should be impeached, prosecuted, and imprisoned! Along with all the rest of this criminal administration.

But the SPINELESS DEMOCRATS won’t do it, because they suck almost as much as the scumpublicans.

]]> By: Exley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3838318 Exley Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:37:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3838318 #55 Zooey, Well, I put the rest of the e-mail in parentheses, so that doesn't really count! #55 Zooey,

Well, I put the rest of the e-mail in parentheses, so that doesn’t really count!

]]> By: gummitch http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3838311 gummitch Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:34:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3838311 <em>Yes. (But if I were a senator and felt this way, I would still not participate in a no-confidence vote because it is meaningless and has no basis in the Constitution). Comment by Exley</em> There's nothing in the Constitution about appearing at ribbon-cuttings, either, but Senators do that when appropriate. Sometimes, symbolic gestures have value. Yes.

(But if I were a senator and felt this way, I would still not participate in a no-confidence vote because it is meaningless and has no basis in the Constitution).

Comment by Exley

There’s nothing in the Constitution about appearing at ribbon-cuttings, either, but Senators do that when appropriate. Sometimes, symbolic gestures have value.

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3838310 Zooey Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:33:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3838310 <em>Comment by Exley — June 4, 2007 @ 11:05 am</em> Thanks for the "yes." How did I know you couldn't possibly give a one-word answer? Hah! Comment by Exley — June 4, 2007 @ 11:05 am

Thanks for the “yes.”

How did I know you couldn’t possibly give a one-word answer? Hah!

]]> By: Angry One http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3838289 Angry One Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:27:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3838289 For the latest news, document dumps, email archives, hearing transcripts and other essential materials in the firings of U.S. attorneys, see: <b><a href="http://www.perrspectives.com/resources/documents.htm#prosecutors" rel="nofollow">"The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents."</a></b> For the latest news, document dumps, email archives, hearing transcripts and other essential materials in the firings of U.S. attorneys, see:
“The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents.”

]]> By: Kilo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3838279 Kilo Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:20:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3838279 <strong>Now, forced to choose accountability over party loyalty, these senators have gone silent.</strong> Hey at least they opted for party loyaly and not corruption when they <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070603/ap_on_go_co/congress_pet_projects" rel="nofollow">abandoned accountability</a>. Now, forced to choose accountability over party loyalty, these senators have gone silent.

Hey at least they opted for party loyaly and not corruption when they abandoned accountability.

]]> By: Trizza http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/comment-page-2/#comment-3838247 Trizza Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:05:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/gonzales-no-confidence/#comment-3838247 I'm sick of all this "non-binding" crap! Republicans pull shit like this <i>“tie up the Senate floor with all kinds of procedural mischief and introduce any number of amendments.”</i> and turning the lights out on committes, force hearing to convene in the basement and Democrats are afraid to make a vote binding or the so called "benchmarks" that are part of the supplemental that the president signed, of course, non-binding also. So let me get this straight..... When Gonzales has been shown to have lied under oath, the best that we can come up with is a non binding, no confidence vote? I understand the need for a vote but non-binding? Non-binding benchmarks for a government that the majority <i>voted</i> for us to leave? I’m sick of all this “non-binding” crap! Republicans pull shit like this “tie up the Senate floor with all kinds of procedural mischief and introduce any number of amendments.” and turning the lights out on committes, force hearing to convene in the basement and Democrats are afraid to make a vote binding or the so called “benchmarks” that are part of the supplemental that the president signed, of course, non-binding also.

So let me get this straight…..

When Gonzales has been shown to have lied under oath, the best that we can come up with is a non binding, no confidence vote? I understand the need for a vote but non-binding? Non-binding benchmarks for a government that the majority voted for us to leave?

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