Comments on: Conservative Presidential Candidates Back Libby Pardon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:06:49 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Hyrum http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3859148 Hyrum Fri, 15 Jun 2007 06:00:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3859148 This add to my opinion that Ron Paul is the only law abiding Republican running for President. This add to my opinion that Ron Paul is the only law abiding Republican running for President.

]]> By: jim http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3844389 jim Thu, 07 Jun 2007 01:06:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3844389 Romney is now trashing a highly regarded public servant and law enforcer. The man is human garbage. Who would buy a used car or let their daughter go out with this creep. He is making Mormons look bad. He is coming across more and more as a psychopathic liar. He would fuck a dog on national TV if he thought it would help him get the nomination. Gross, disturbing man. Romney is now trashing a highly regarded public servant and law enforcer. The man is human garbage. Who would buy a used car or let their daughter go out with this creep. He is making Mormons look bad. He is coming across more and more as a psychopathic liar. He would fuck a dog on national TV if he thought it would help him get the nomination. Gross, disturbing man.

]]> By: warren tarrah http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3844340 warren tarrah Thu, 07 Jun 2007 00:37:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3844340 Al Franken had this little feature a long time ago on his show asking listeners to send in there best versions of screaming "LIAR." Thats what I want to play everytime I hear rightwingers talk about ScootiePootie. LIIIIIAAAARRRRRRRRR.LIAR.LIAR LIAR LIAR. They're all a bunch of LIARRRS. Lying sacks of stinking liquid shit. Al Franken had this little feature a long time ago on his show asking listeners to send in there best versions of screaming “LIAR.” Thats what I want to play everytime I hear rightwingers talk about ScootiePootie. LIIIIIAAAARRRRRRRRR.LIAR.LIAR LIAR LIAR. They’re all a bunch of LIARRRS. Lying sacks of stinking liquid shit.

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3843645 Bob Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:34:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3843645 It's a shame that one person goes to prison for lying and obstruction when the whole administration is guilty of those crimes, at the very least. It’s a shame that one person goes to prison for lying and obstruction when the whole administration is guilty of those crimes, at the very least.

]]> By: Barry http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842995 Barry Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:51:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842995 The rule of law is still forgotten by the GOP. Libby broke the law and needs to be punished like everybody else. The case was not about the leak. It was about lying. We need to hold all government officials accountable. The rule of law is still forgotten by the GOP. Libby broke the law and needs to be punished like everybody else. The case was not about the leak. It was about lying. We need to hold all government officials accountable.

]]> By: Jack http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842991 Jack Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:48:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842991 If you can't find Guiliani Time in your local Blockbuster, just get this movie it is basically the same story with cover names: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xse9lHCQl9E&mode=related&search= If you can’t find Guiliani Time in your local Blockbuster, just get this movie it is basically the same story with cover names:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xse9lHCQl9E&mode=related&search=

]]> By: Jack http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842958 Jack Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:36:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842958 If you want to know more about what a mob dictator looks like before he takes over a country, get this movie. The complete versions have already been pulled from YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C3K6aJ5S1M If you want to know more about what a mob dictator looks like before he takes over a country, get this movie. The complete versions have already been pulled from YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C3K6aJ5S1M

]]> By: FreeTheUSA http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842802 FreeTheUSA Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:18:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842802 I used to honestly think a Rudy Giuliani Presidency wouldn't be that bad. I had this impression of Rudy as a New York version of Schwarzenegger (runs as Republican, but policies are very liberal). After hearing them in the debates, boy was I wrong. Rudy sounds like a bigger fascist than Bush. Rudy seems to be under the impression that Bush's idiotic policies would work if you just push them even further. Rudy also seems to be even more bogged down by cronyism and partisanship than Dubya. I don't care if Hillary has her flaws. I'm going to work to make sure the Democratic candidate wins. We cannot risk more of the same incompetent cronyism and neo-fascism from the modern day Republic Party. I used to honestly think a Rudy Giuliani Presidency wouldn’t be that bad. I had this impression of Rudy as a New York version of Schwarzenegger (runs as Republican, but policies are very liberal).

After hearing them in the debates, boy was I wrong. Rudy sounds like a bigger fascist than Bush. Rudy seems to be under the impression that Bush’s idiotic policies would work if you just push them even further. Rudy also seems to be even more bogged down by cronyism and partisanship than Dubya.

I don’t care if Hillary has her flaws. I’m going to work to make sure the Democratic candidate wins. We cannot risk more of the same incompetent cronyism and neo-fascism from the modern day Republic Party.

]]> By: craig johnson http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842801 craig johnson Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:18:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842801 <strong>Libby Pardon and Depraved Indifference</strong> (- cognitorex -) Not only did this administration cook up propaganda to lead America into war, it deliberately suppressed factual assessments of the dangers that our troops would encounter. The Military, the State Department and the CIA had each clearly warned of the "harm's way" our troops would encounter. For political purposes these intelligence warnings were not only buried, they were actively shunned and ignored. This is criminal behavior which, with one hundred per cent certainty, led to troop' deaths and maimings. A Libby pardon would condone this establishment of a propaganda apparatus in the Executive branch. It would condone a conspiracy to provide false information to Congress. It would set free the sole conspirator who, of necessity had to lie, protect his boss and other executive branch participants. A Libby pardon would condone the criminal opposite of 'supporting the troops' that in fact Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Feith and others actively participated in making false pronouncements which resulted in American deaths. Labels: criminal negligence, depraved indifference, Libby, pardon, propaganda apparatus, cognitorex, propaganda conspiracy, William Kristol Libby Pardon and Depraved Indifference
(- cognitorex -)
Not only did this administration cook up propaganda to lead America into war, it deliberately suppressed factual assessments of the dangers that our troops would encounter. The Military, the State Department and the CIA had each clearly warned of the “harm’s way” our troops would encounter.
For political purposes these intelligence warnings were not only buried, they were actively shunned and ignored. This is criminal behavior which, with one hundred per cent certainty, led to troop’ deaths and maimings.
A Libby pardon would condone this establishment of a propaganda apparatus in the Executive branch. It would condone a conspiracy to provide false information to Congress. It would set free the sole conspirator who, of necessity had to lie, protect his boss and other executive branch participants.
A Libby pardon would condone the criminal opposite of ’supporting the troops’ that in fact Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Feith and others actively participated in making false pronouncements which resulted in American deaths.

Labels: criminal negligence, depraved indifference, Libby, pardon, propaganda apparatus, cognitorex, propaganda conspiracy, William Kristol

]]> By: Reason http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842734 Reason Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:40:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842734 Jockeying for AIPAC support are they? Why yes, it would appear so. Jockeying for AIPAC support are they? Why yes, it would appear so.

]]> By: theswan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842700 theswan Wed, 06 Jun 2007 12:55:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842700 None of these persons has any respect for the law. When one commits a crime there should be consequences. Obviously they all believe they are above the laws of our society. It's the "have it my way attitude" that republicans never seemed to give up from childhood. Cry, baby cry! None of these persons has any respect for the law. When one commits a crime there should be consequences. Obviously they all believe they are above the laws of our society.
It’s the “have it my way attitude” that republicans never seemed to give up from childhood. Cry, baby cry!

]]> By: ace http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842650 ace Wed, 06 Jun 2007 10:35:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842650 More Republican lies have never been told in less time than during this exchange. More Republican lies have never been told in less time than during this exchange.

]]> By: Paul in LA http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842634 Paul in LA Wed, 06 Jun 2007 07:44:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842634 "The fact that Libby didn’t commit the “underlying crime” — i.e., the leaking of Valerie Plame’s CIA status — means nothing." == Niko On the CONTRARY, it means that Libby can still be tried on treason, on his complicity in the cirme, as opposed to the 3-year sentence for obstruction. Which is BEAUTIFUL! <b>He hasn't even stood trial yet for his actual crimes. </b> <i>His sentence today is just a taste of what he has coming.</i> How soon can the independent prosecutor statute be resurrected? “The fact that Libby didn’t commit the “underlying crime” — i.e., the leaking of Valerie Plame’s CIA status — means nothing.” == Niko

On the CONTRARY, it means that Libby can still be tried on treason, on his complicity in the cirme, as opposed to the 3-year sentence for obstruction.

Which is BEAUTIFUL!

He hasn’t even stood trial yet for his actual crimes.

His sentence today is just a taste of what he has coming.

How soon can the independent prosecutor statute be resurrected?

]]> By: Mike Hignite http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842605 Mike Hignite Wed, 06 Jun 2007 05:34:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842605 Does your headline writer ever read the articles he describes? Half the candidates said, "No," and the rest blathered on about the case and didn't answer the question. Does your headline writer ever read the articles he describes? Half the candidates said, “No,” and the rest blathered on about the case and didn’t answer the question.

]]> By: Jack http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842603 Jack Wed, 06 Jun 2007 05:31:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842603 The title is deceiving. Ron Paul is the only conservative and he said NO. He said it because as he said in the last debate Scooter assisted in the deception that led to war. The rest are fear mongering and warmongering cowards who have been told they need to be the security party. Ron Paul is the only one who knows what security means. <strong>He is also leading in every poll including CNN's: </strong> http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/debates/scorecard/gop.debate/ And MSNBCs that have over 15,000 voters: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18963731/ The title is deceiving. Ron Paul is the only conservative and he said NO. He said it because as he said in the last debate Scooter assisted in the deception that led to war.

The rest are fear mongering and warmongering cowards who have been told they need to be the security party.

Ron Paul is the only one who knows what security means.

He is also leading in every poll including CNN’s:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/debates/scorecard/gop.debate/

And MSNBCs that have over 15,000 voters:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18963731/

]]> By: Exley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842560 Exley Wed, 06 Jun 2007 04:54:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842560 #211 "Point taken on the anthrax example " Okay...I'll take that, Terry, to end the night. Almost 1:00 am here on the East Coast. Time for sleep. Good night all. #211

“Point taken on the anthrax example ”

Okay…I’ll take that, Terry, to end the night. Almost 1:00 am here on the East Coast. Time for sleep.

Good night all.

]]> By: TerrytheTurtle http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842555 TerrytheTurtle Wed, 06 Jun 2007 04:52:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842555 But the fact remains, Clinton wasn't charged, even with all that seedy deal making - that's the point, in fact your detail makes the point even stronger. Because there is no charge doesn't mean no crime has been committed... that's your 'no sequitur' - you haven't beaten off anything but a few sloppy examples here and there. Can't get the energy anymore on this. But the fact remains, Clinton wasn’t charged, even with all that seedy deal making – that’s the point, in fact your detail makes the point even stronger. Because there is no charge doesn’t mean no crime has been committed… that’s your ‘no sequitur’ – you haven’t beaten off anything but a few sloppy examples here and there. Can’t get the energy anymore on this.

]]> By: shane http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842552 shane Wed, 06 Jun 2007 04:46:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842552 No he hasn’t. He hasn’t charged anyone with the leak, let alone convicted anyone of it, and he has no plans of filing any more charges. Comment by m12 Because he couldn't get the required testimony, hence the obstruction of justice testimony. And it's time all the "I don't remember" Repukes start getting charged with obstruction of justice. No he hasn’t. He hasn’t charged anyone with the leak, let alone convicted anyone of it, and he has no plans of filing any more charges.

Comment by m12

Because he couldn’t get the required testimony, hence the obstruction of justice testimony. And it’s time all the “I don’t remember” Repukes start getting charged with obstruction of justice.

]]> By: TerrytheTurtle http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842551 TerrytheTurtle Wed, 06 Jun 2007 04:46:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842551 Point taken on the anthrax example (but not on the speeding past the school today), but your 'non sequitur' stands Ex.... Point taken on the anthrax example (but not on the speeding past the school today), but your ‘non sequitur’ stands Ex….

]]> By: m12 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/comment-page-5/#comment-3842548 m12 Wed, 06 Jun 2007 04:43:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/05/pardon-libby-debate/#comment-3842548 #204 Why would I disagree with the findings of the Warren Commission? #204

Why would I disagree with the findings of the Warren Commission?

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