Schlozman’s Inadvertent Confession: Any Group That Works With Minorities Is ‘Liberal’
Schlozman’s Inadvertent Confession: Any Group That Works With Minorities Is ‘Liberal’
Bradley Schlozman has emerged as a central figure in the politicization of the Justice Department, particularly for his focus on squashing the voice of minorites prior to major elections.
As an interim U.S. attorney in Missouri, Schlozman brought felony indictments of four workers in the minority advocacy group ACORN just a week before the 2006 election. That move ran counter to a longstanding policy in the Justice Department, and voter fraud charges against ACORN were dismissed. Schlozman also killed an investigation of Native American voter suppression in Minnesota, a practice that was resulting in “electoral discrimination against Indian voters.”
As TPMMuckraker noted, Schlozman played dumb today when asked about the political leanings of ACORN. But later in the hearing, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) caught Schlozman baselessly labeling groups that reach out to minority voters as the “liberal” counterparts to the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society. Watch it:
As Schumer pointed out, the Mexican American Legal Defense Fund, which “fosters sound public policies, laws and programs to safeguard the civil rights of the 45 million Latinos living in the United States,” and the National Asian Pacific American Bar Association, which “advocates for the legal needs and interests of the APA community,” are nothing like the Heritage Foundation (a right-wing think tank) and the Federalist Society (a right-wing legal organization).
Schlozman’s labeling of these advocacy organizations suggests that he never truly consulted with liberal groups and carried out his position in a political manner. As Schumer noted, “I think the record here is speaking for itself.”
Transcript:
SCHUMER: Why did you reach out to the conservative ones and you had others reach out to the liberal ones?
And give me the name of one liberal one that you ordered, asked — give me the name of the person you told to call and the organization you told him to call.
SCHLOZMAN: John Tanner, the chief of the Voting Section.
SCHUMER: Yes.
SCHLOZMAN: And we had — I had him reach out to, I know to various organizations we work with. I believe…
SCHUMER: Like, give me a name of a liberal organization. You just said that you — you were very definitive…
SCHLOZMAN: Yes.
SCHUMER: … that you had someone else reach out to, quote, liberal organizations, John Tanner. Name a liberal organization you reached out to.
SCHLOZMAN: I believe he reached — my understanding is, is that he reached out to MALDEF, to NAPABA to — I mean, I don’t have the exact list of people who he reached. I mean, I said, Reach out to organizations with whom you work.
SCHUMER: Yes, but MALDEF is not the equivalent of the Heritage — the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society have an ideological hue to them. These others are Native American organizations, Hispanic American organizations. Those are different.
So you want to think about it? Did Mr. Tanner reach out to liberal organizations that would be, sort of, the mirror image, if you will, of the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society?
SCHLOZMAN: Senator, I guess — and what my response will be — I just don’t recall today exactly what — I mean, I’m happy to check what organizations he reached out to.
SCHUMER: Again, I think the record here is speaking for itself.
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When will blacks, women, and Latinos stopped being called minorities? Combined, we are the majority…
June 5th, 2007 at 7:51 pmSorry, everyone, but OT
Brownbach, McCain admit they never read the Iraq Report
The report that sent us to war, and neither one of them read it!
Spitting mad…..
June 5th, 2007 at 7:52 pmThe phrase “I don’t know” sure does show up a lot in the speech of the guilty…
June 5th, 2007 at 7:53 pmPeople of color, take note, please. This weasel is a perfect spokesperson for the Repub party and he demonstrates the reason you should all be voting for the Democrat.
June 5th, 2007 at 7:53 pmOops! Heh.
June 5th, 2007 at 7:54 pmBless his heart….Incompetent is as incompetent does.
June 5th, 2007 at 7:57 pmWhen will blacks, women, and Latinos stopped being called minorities? Combined, we are the majority…
Comment by unbelievable — June 5, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
As soon as you actually start believing in a little thing called the US Constitution.
June 5th, 2007 at 7:59 pmPeople of color, take note, please. This weasel is a perfect spokesperson for the Repub party and he demonstrates the reason you should all be voting for the Democrat.
Comment by Bluedog49 — June 5, 2007 @ 7:53 pm
Exactly why Rove has been disinfranchizing them since the late 90’s… He knows they don’t vote for what he’s selling…
June 5th, 2007 at 7:59 pmSen. Chuck Shmucker (D-NY) is a Media whore. :-o
June 5th, 2007 at 8:01 pmZooey is TPs Homer Simpson. Heh `U`
June 5th, 2007 at 8:03 pmThe Bush White House kkkoruption.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:03 pmZooey is TPs Homer Simpson. Heh `U`
Comment by Flaco
Flaccid is TP’s Peter Griffin — can’t find his d*ck either.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:07 pmAs soon as you actually start believing in a little thing called the US Constitution.
Comment by Mr. President — June 5, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
Not everything requires faith… I can actually see the Constitution and accept it is real without any need for belief whatsoever.
And what does ‘believing’ in it have to do with the fact that white men are now the physical minority in this country? Try making some sense please.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:07 pmZooey is TPs Homer Simpson. Heh `U`
Comment by Flaco — June 5, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
Piss off
June 5th, 2007 at 8:08 pmTry making some sense please.
Comment by unbelievable
Now that’s a challenge.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:09 pmWTF, Flaco?
Can’t comment on the thread – just attack a poster?
How mature…..
dolt….
June 5th, 2007 at 8:09 pmand no one has brought impeachment back to the table…
June 5th, 2007 at 8:10 pmAnd the show goes on, to the applause of all watching.
What’s interesting about murder and terrorism being performed by our country when you got such great TV to stare at.
Stare away America and don’t mind that water that you are in that is starting to boil, you’ll adjust.
Fools.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:10 pmPoor flaco is one tree short of a hammock . . . one of Rove’s favorite kinds of lemmings.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:15 pmNow that’s a challenge.
Comment by Zooey — June 5, 2007 @ 8:09 pm
Hopefully he imploded… People like these regular trolls are an utter waste of space and time. How freaking miserable do you have to be to do what they do without ever saying anything meaningful or of value? Jesus…
June 5th, 2007 at 8:16 pmI don’t understand why Congress is letting these guys get away with their “I don’t remember” lies. They need to throw their asses in jail for Contempt of Congress and tell them they can get out when they find their memories. It’s so scary to think that we have so many people working for our government being paid by our tax dollars who can’t remember what they did last Tuesday.
The Republic party, the party of “I don’t remember” liars. So trolls, are you proud of your Republic brethren who can’t remember what they did last Tuesday. Doesn’t it make you proud that you are a Republic?
June 5th, 2007 at 8:17 pm“And what does ‘believing’ in it have to do with the fact that white men are now the physical minority in this country? Try making some sense please.
Comment by unbelievable”
Unbelievable – I think what Mr. President was saying is that blacks, women and Latinos don’t believe in the constitution. At least that’s the only thing that would make sense out of what he posted. And that statement is a hoot. Said by someone who supports the President and political party that has gutted our constitution.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:20 pmJesus…
Comment by unbelievable
Watch it, potty mouth. :D
June 5th, 2007 at 8:21 pmwow what an idiot
June 5th, 2007 at 8:22 pmComment by unbelievable — June 5, 2007 @ 8:07 pm
Oh, my bad. Let me rephrase.
You asked the question:
“When will blacks, women, and Latinos stopped being called minorities?
Comment by unbelievable — June 5, 2007 @ 7:51 pm”
Now, if what you mean by this is “When will blacks, women, and Latinos stop being called minorities?”
(which, by the way, is the most common-sense, ordinary way to read your question)
then my answer to you is thus:
“As soon as you actually start believing in a little thing called the US Constitution.”
Here, I say “you,” because of the use of “we” in your follow up statement which I shall reproduce below:
“Combined, we are the majority…”
Therefore (in the ordinary, common-sense interpretation) my “you” refers to the “blacks, women and Latinos” of the original question.
When I say “believing in” I do not mean “acknowledging that such-and-such exists,” I mean that your (again, this “your” refers to the blacks, women and Latinos from the original question) values are concurrent with those expounded by such-and-such (in this case, the US constitution) to a degree significant enough for you (again, this “you” refers to the blacks, women and Latinos from the original question) to say that such-and-such (in this case, the US constitution) is an accurate representation of your values.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:24 pmsomeone call? ;)
June 5th, 2007 at 8:26 pmAfter watching this video, one of my best friend’s “gaydar” is pinging…what can I say?
Any dish or dirt out there??
Jus’ askin’….
June 5th, 2007 at 8:28 pmAnd only working with anal-retentive groups is being a conservative.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:29 pmMr President reminds me of the kid in class who always had his hand up. “Me! Me!” And when the teacher called on him, he was always wrong. Except that kid was never psychotic, just dumb.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:30 pmComment by unbelievable — June 5, 2007 @ 8:07 pm
But, if when you asked:
“When will blacks, women, and Latinos stopped being called minorities?
Comment by unbelievable — June 5, 2007 @ 7:51 pmâ€
you did NOT mean “When will blacks, women, and Latinos stop being called minorities?â€
But rather, “When will blacks, women, and Latinos (taken as a whole) stop *being* the physical minority?”
Then you in fact answer your own question with your follow-up remark:
“Combined, we are the majority…â€
In which case you had no reason to ask the question in the first place.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:31 pmSaid by someone who supports the President and political party that has gutted our constitution.
Comment by Kate Henry — June 5, 2007 @ 8:20 pm
Exactly why his comment was nonsensical :D
June 5th, 2007 at 8:31 pmsomeone call? ;)
Comment by heyzeus
Heh. :D
June 5th, 2007 at 8:31 pmNow, if what you mean by this is “When will blacks, women, and Latinos stop being called minorities?â€
Why can’t you just ask what I meant instead of jumping to conclusions?
I was simply pointing out that combined, the collective term of ‘minorities’ has outgrown its semantics, because the true minority in this country (upon which the term was based) is the white man.
(which, by the way, is the most common-sense, ordinary way to read your question)
Maybe if you have brain damage…
Here, I say “you,†because of the use of “we†in your follow up statement which I shall reproduce below: “Combined, we are the majority…â€Therefore (in the ordinary, common-sense interpretation) my “you†refers to the “blacks, women and Latinos†of the original question.
Is there a point in your future?
When I say “believing in†I do not mean “acknowledging that such-and-such exists,†I mean that your (again, this “your†refers to the blacks, women and Latinos from the original question) values are concurrent with those expounded by such-and-such (in this case, the US constitution) to a degree significant enough for you (again, this “you†refers to the blacks, women and Latinos from the original question) to say that such-and-such (in this case, the US constitution) is an accurate representation of your values.
Comment by Mr. President — June 5, 2007 @ 8:24 pm
Nope, no point…
June 5th, 2007 at 8:34 pmMr President reminds me of the kid in class who always had his hand up. “Me! Me!†And when the teacher called on him, he was always wrong. Except that kid was never psychotic, just dumb.
Comment by gummitch — June 5, 2007 @ 8:30 pm
Excuse me, a$$f*ck.
My original comment was short, succinct and meaningful.
Unbelievable was confused due to a lack of common-sense, so a therefore explicated my original remark.
If you have a problem, then educate your fellow TPer.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:36 pmsomeone call? ;)
Comment by heyzeus — June 5, 2007 @ 8:26 pm
Only if you brought the margeritas… We could use a drink after reading Mr. P’s attempt at deduction.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:36 pmMr. Indigent, sir?
June 5th, 2007 at 8:38 pmYour masseuse is here for your session, sir.
Sorry sir?
No, Ms. Merkel declined sir, she sent over a highly recommended practitioner, Herr Gannonvort, in her stead.
Yes sir, he will wear the liederhosen, as you have requested, and the leather pants as well.
Begging your pardon sir, WH security called on the hot line, they informed me that Saddams pistol is missing from the safe, they would like to know of its whereabouts, sir.
Oh, sir….
Oh my, no….. oh sir….. what are you thinking sir?
Putin?
Oh my god sir, no, oh my……..
Comment by unbelievable — June 5, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
Study up, lad!
June 5th, 2007 at 8:38 pmYou might need to know this stuff one day.
Mr. President makes about as much sense as Jeff Spicoli trying to explain .. uh ..um yeah ah… huh? Go enjoy more of that Kool-aid your name sake is trying to pass off as the truth.. America is growing fed up with the hate and intolerance the repukes keep spewing. Enjoy your time….cause the clock is running down on you.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:38 pmBut rather, “When will blacks, women, and Latinos (taken as a whole) stop *being* the physical minority?â€
We already are the physical minority, so my question in asking when will we stop being considered the collective minorities is accurate.
Again, piss off.
In which case you had no reason to ask the question in the first place.
Comment by Mr. President — June 5, 2007 @ 8:31 pm
I’m not explaining the punchline yet AGAIN.
Another bigotted Republican organization – and all you have is this crap? You know, you’re better to shut up and nopt post than to post this kind of mind-numbing swill and show that you have no defense for the endless conservative hatred for humanity in general, and those unlike you specifically.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:41 pmMy original comment was short, succinct and meaningful.
Not even if you have brain damage…
Unbelievable was confused due to a lack of common-sense, so a therefore explicated my original remark.
No, you were lacking reading comprehension skills thus your ridiclous comment.
If you have a problem, then educate your fellow TPer.
Comment by Mr. President — June 5, 2007 @ 8:36 pm
You aren’t “educatable”
June 5th, 2007 at 8:43 pmBut liberal Schnozman works with that liberal Gonzo. As well Goodling, Doan are now liberals!! OMG!
Hey Mr President, how about a nice warm salty giant doughy pretzel?
Oh, and you might wanna move that coffee table a little to the left,
June 5th, 2007 at 8:44 pmStudy up, lad!
You might need to know this stuff one day.
Comment by Mr. President — June 5, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
I’m a 40 year old woman, pee stain. I already know more than you think you know. I read.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:44 pmunbelievable v. Mr P
I’m getting popcorn….!
June 5th, 2007 at 8:47 pmYay I’m the physical minority now.
I deserve sympathy, handouts, freerides, free lunch, a free degree, shoe-in for a job. Hell yeah!
June 5th, 2007 at 8:47 pmI deserve sympathy, handouts, freerides, free lunch, a free degree, shoe-in for a job. Hell yeah!
Comment by ForTruth
Oy….
**yawn**
June 5th, 2007 at 8:48 pmunbelievable? you know you’ve gotten to mr. pee when he starts getting snippy.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:48 pmComment by unbelievable — June 5, 2007 @ 8:41 pm
Hey, at least I gave you the benefit of the doubt. I could have assumed (and I would have been justified in doing so I now see) that you could not follow a simple analysis.
All I have left for you is some advice,
Mark it, nuncle.
Learn to speak and write in English!!!
June 5th, 2007 at 8:48 pmChicks in their 40’s are just gettin started.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:48 pmStudy up, lad!
You might need to know this stuff one day.
Comment by Mr. President — June 5, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
Were you raised by morons or did you strike out on your own one day?….
June 5th, 2007 at 8:49 pmI deserve sympathy, handouts, freerides, free lunch, a free degree, shoe-in for a job. Hell yeah!
Comment by ForTruth
Wait a minute! I never got that stuff!
We were supposed to get free stuff?
June 5th, 2007 at 8:49 pmunbelievable v. Mr P
I’m getting popcorn….!
Comment by Zooey — June 5, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
Only half of the show is in English…
Yay I’m the physical minority now.
I deserve sympathy, handouts, freerides, free lunch, a free degree, shoe-in for a job. Hell yeah!
Comment by ForTruth — June 5, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
Sure thing… But in return you’ll get the crappy jobs, lower wages, and be stereotyped as an illegal lazy whore :D
June 5th, 2007 at 8:50 pmYay I’m the physical minority now.
I deserve sympathy, handouts, freerides, free lunch, a free degree, shoe-in for a job. Hell yeah!
Comment by ForTruth — June 5, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
For real, ForTruth.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:51 pmunbelievable? you know you’ve gotten to mr. pee when he starts getting snippy.
Comment by labs — June 5, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
:D
My cat gets more of a challenge from batting around a one-winged moth…
June 5th, 2007 at 8:52 pmWe were supposed to get free stuff?
Comment by Zooey — June 5, 2007 @ 8:49 pm
Only in Republican wet dreams…
June 5th, 2007 at 8:53 pmOnly in Republican wet dreams…
Comment by unbelievable
Oh, ForTruth is gonna be so hurt…..
June 5th, 2007 at 8:55 pm‘Night all…
June 5th, 2007 at 8:56 pmnight unbelievable!
June 5th, 2007 at 8:58 pmI’m a 40 year old woman, pee stain. I already know more than you think you know. I read.
Comment by unbelievable — June 5, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
I did piss all over you, didn’t I?
Oh well, better luck to ya next time.
Good Night.
June 5th, 2007 at 9:00 pmGood Night.
Comment by Mr. President
You stayed away just long enough, didn’t you Mr P?
June 5th, 2007 at 9:03 pmYou stayed away just long enough, didn’t you Mr P?
Comment by Zooey — June 5, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
For what?
June 5th, 2007 at 9:06 pmFor what?
Comment by Mr. President
For unbelievable to leave.
June 5th, 2007 at 9:13 pmAdd up all the intellect of the neocons and the GOP; is there a whole brain between them?
June 5th, 2007 at 9:19 pmFor unbelievable to leave.
Comment by Zooey — June 5, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
She could have left at any time, and by the way, I didn’t go anywhere. Unbelievable asked a question, I answered, she did not provide an argument to the contrary, but instead just repeatedly stated that she disagreed. Without logic to back up her assertions, she had no argument and she went on here way.
Kinda lame, but you can’t blame her.
June 5th, 2007 at 9:21 pmShe couldn’t take the heat, so she got the hell up outta here.
Wait a minute! I never got that stuff!
We were supposed to get free stuff?
Comment by Zooey
Ever had government surplus cheese? You’d be better off stealing from your dog’s dish.
Not that you would.
June 5th, 2007 at 9:26 pmExcuse me, a$$f*ck.
Comment by Mr. President
And again, the troll goes right for the homoerotic imagery.
What is about you trolls and anal love?
June 5th, 2007 at 9:27 pmI am an illegal lazy whore. And its fun as hell.
Degrading a thread is awesome too. I do it all the time.
June 5th, 2007 at 9:30 pmI’m trolling myself.
June 5th, 2007 at 9:30 pm#64,
Now that was funny.
June 5th, 2007 at 9:42 pmDemocrats are unimpressive, and Repukes suck as usual.
June 5th, 2007 at 9:46 pmI’m sick of even debating. I just want to troll myself and the trolls.
Ever had government surplus cheese? You’d be better off stealing from your dog’s dish.
Not that you would.
Comment by gummitch
Well, if “Reagan cheese,” as my old Grandpappy-in-law used to call it, was the only thing around — my poor dog would have a problem. :D
June 5th, 2007 at 9:46 pmDegrading a thread is awesome too. I do it all the time.
Comment by ForTruth
But people love you for it, I just get b*tched out when I do it.
Is that fair? :(
June 5th, 2007 at 9:47 pmWell, if you’re in favour of rights for minorities and equal protection, of course you’re hard-core liberal. Good conservatives yearn for the antebellum status quo ante….
Cheers,
June 5th, 2007 at 9:48 pmMy favorite part was when Whitehouse, thoroughly disgusted with helium-head said he had heard quite enough and practically snarled at the jackass a-quiver before him.
June 5th, 2007 at 9:58 pmComment by Mr. President — June 5, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
To unbelievable:
Study up, lad!
Well-nigh unbelievable that, after all of this time on the list, our boy Mr Pee should still be confused as to unbelievable’s gender. This speaks to his cognitive shortcomings as clearly as his long record of off-the-mark comments and humorless japes.
June 5th, 2007 at 10:09 pm“Reagan Cheese”
Dang, that sounds old and rotted.
June 5th, 2007 at 10:19 pmComment by Mr Pee’s Secretary of Hate — June 5, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
First of all, I don’t give a f*ck all call anyone lad, lad.
Secondly, that b!tch had no personality, how was I supposed to tell her gender?
June 5th, 2007 at 10:26 pmI get a laugh when anyone with the ethnic name of “Schlozman” pretends he is a good ol boy right wing racist. Who is he kidding? Jews are even more a minority than blacks. Lol.
June 5th, 2007 at 10:29 pm“Reagan Cheeseâ€
Dang, that sounds old and rotted.
Comment by ForTruth — June 5, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
Thanks for that mental image, ForTruth. Guess I won’t be having that snack before The Daily Show. :-(
We could use a drink after reading Mr. P’s attempt at deduction.
Comment by unbelievable — June 5, 2007 @ 8:36 pm
I skip right through Mr. Pee’s posts. I know that someone else will smack him around, so I wait and enjoy the responses.
June 5th, 2007 at 10:30 pmComment by Jane E. Schneider — June 5, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
Keep studying lad, you’ll be ready to play with the big boys one of these days.
June 5th, 2007 at 10:35 pmErratum: post #73) should read – “First of all, I don’t give a f*ck I’ll call anyone lad, lad.”
June 5th, 2007 at 10:36 pmComment by Jane E. Schneider — June 5, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
Keep studying lad, you’ll be ready to play with the big boys one of these days.
Comment by Mr. President — June 5, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
She does and she is.
June 5th, 2007 at 10:41 pm“Reagan Cheeseâ€
Dang, that sounds old and rotted.
Comment by ForTruth
This was in the 80s. Heh.
June 5th, 2007 at 11:05 pmComment by Jane E. Schneider — June 5, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
Keep studying lad, you’ll be ready to play with the big boys one of these days.
Comment by Mr. President — June 5, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
She does and she is.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 5, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
I’d like to believe that Wayne, I really would. But I see no proof of this claim.
June 5th, 2007 at 11:06 pmMr. President, if that is in fact your real name, from what I’ve read of your posts, you appear to see what you want to see. And that makes intelligent discourse with you on the issues an exercise in futility. In order for meaningfull dialog to occur and debate to transpire, the debating parties must agree on a core frame of mutual definitions of terms so that neither can misunderstand or misuse something the other says. And FACTS must be the only debating points used. An argument is not valid if it is based on a false set of beliefs. At least, not in the reality-based community it isn’t. And if one side wants to keep misinterpreting something the other side says (or something it imagines the other side as saying), then that side loses. Period.
And to be perfectly honest, I haven’t seen very many trolls here who can engage in an intelligent discussion of the issues.
Good night, everyone, and have a pleasant tomorrow.
June 5th, 2007 at 11:38 pmMr. President, if that is in fact your real name, from what I’ve read of your posts, you appear to see what you want to see. And that makes intelligent discourse with you on the issues an exercise in futility.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 5, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
Actually, I saw what, in fact, Unb posted. She asked about the nominal usage of a word, then she claimed to have been talking about matters of physical fact. I could care less about “what I see,” if Unb would have simply acknowledged that she mis-spoke then maybe intelligent discourse would have been possible. However, she chose to take the low road and refused to address the issues.
You have obviously read my posts because the second part of your comment above is one of the points that I stress.
Maybe you’ll have the honor of being refuted by me one of these days.
June 5th, 2007 at 11:54 pmComment by Mr. President — June 5, 2007 @ 10:26 pm
>Secondly, that b!tch had no personality,
With that statement, I must demur. Not with the bitch part, necessarily. Unbelievable is like most of the ladies on this list, in-your-face and sassy, even bitchy at times. But at deeper levels, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear, a profound message is couched in their commentary. It will be of great value to those who learn to discern it.
>how was I supposed to tell her gender?
An excellent question… it relates to ways of knowing things that are well beyond the purview of the intellect. If you’ve ever gotten into the “zone” in athletic performance or, say, “out of your head” in a music jam, you’ll know whereof we speak. Others call it Zen. Formally, this discipline aims to quiet the logical mind, educate it to its proper function, so that it ceases to override and interfere with intuition.
The limit of logic is that it works from premises. Obviously, impeccable reasoning is of little value if one’s premises are flawed. But how are premises to be chosen… logically? But this then requires a new set of premises, meta-premises so to speak. And then… well, it’s easy to see how quickly this goes awry.
If you’ve looked at some of the pop-sci lit on quantum physics, you’ll know that “objective” Western science has discovered, ironically, that the world in fact is a subjective experience. As far back as the ’70s, books such as “the Tao of Physics” and “The Dancing Wu LI Masters” pointed out that science and Eastern mysticism had, in many ways, converged. The point here is that the old paradigms and models are not useful anymore. They have become limits. In essence, the more mental limits we relinquish, the better prepared we’ll be to participate in the amazing adventures that lie ahead.
June 6th, 2007 at 12:01 amThey have become limits. In essence, the more mental limits we relinquish, the better prepared we’ll be to participate in the amazing adventures that lie ahead.
Comment by Mr Pee’s Secretary of Hate — June 6, 2007 @ 12:01 am
I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for Mr. President to become enlightened…
June 6th, 2007 at 1:22 amSchlozman’s voice sounds like he has been inhaling too much helium.
June 6th, 2007 at 8:55 amWonder what his post-puberty voice sounds like.