Fox News CEO Ailes: ‘The Candidates That Can’t Face Fox, Can’t Face Al Qaeda’
Fox News CEO Ailes: ‘The Candidates That Can’t Face Fox, Can’t Face Al Qaeda’
Fox News anchor Bill O’Reilly has compared people who oppose participating in Fox News’ presidential debates to Nazis, claiming they “lie, distort, defame, all the time” using “propaganda techniques perfected by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi minister of information.” Fellow Fox News anchor Mort Kondracke claimed they are “not about free speech” and guilty of “junior grade Stalinism.”
This hysteria continued last night, when Fox News CEO Roger Ailes and News Corp. chief Rupert Murdoch co-hosted an awards show for opinion writing. During the event, Ailes “had some choice words for Democratic candidates who have decided not to debate on Fox.”
“The candidates that can’t face Fox, can’t face Al Qaeda,” said Mr. Ailes. “And that’s what’s coming.”
That was followed by applause from the crowd which featured several News Corp. executives and journalists from Murdoch-owned papers–Richard Johnson, the Post’s Page Six editor, for one.
Can there be any doubt left why presidential candidates don’t want to endorse Fox News?
The issue, of course, isn’t that presidential candidates — including Hillary Clinton, Chris Dodd, John Edwards, Barack Obama, Bill Richardson — are afraid of appearing on Fox. The issue is whether they want to legitimize this constant source of partisan misinformation by allowing Fox to claim that it is a real news source that can independently manage a presidential debate.
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Damn!! Jabba The Hutt LIVES!!
June 6th, 2007 at 2:41 pmergo, Fox = terrorists
June 6th, 2007 at 2:41 pmFox = Al Qaeda?!?!
Who woulda thunk it?
June 6th, 2007 at 2:42 pmThe candidates have also refused to meet in some guy’s basement this weekend. I guess they’re scared of Pictionary.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:42 pmTerrorists=Fox?????
Obviously!!
June 6th, 2007 at 2:43 pmMy God, Ailes just compared Fox News to Al Qaeda, HILARIOUS!
June 6th, 2007 at 2:43 pm“The issue, of course, isn’t that presidential candidates — including Hillary Clinton, Chris Dodd, John Edwards, Barack Obama, Bill Richardson — are afraid of appearing on Fox”
That is exactly what hte issue is.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pmFaux news can’t even get the weather right, right, right?
June 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pmDamn…4 of the first 6 commenters said what I was going to say after I read the story!! Great minds must detest Faux alike?
June 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pmHe is right. If they can’t face a dabate monorated by someone that is not going to ask nice questions, they don’t need to run this country.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pmIf this is the FACE of FOX, he’s right, I can’t stomach it.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:45 pmSooo - Fox news equals Al Qaeda ? OK.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:45 pmthey are all scared to death of a tough question. pussies.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:46 pmGood lord, does this idiot realize what he’s saying?
HA HA!
June 6th, 2007 at 2:46 pmFox has run good debates with the dems in the past, but the pressure from the far-left is making it rather hard for another Fox/dem debate to happen again.
In case it’s not been noticed, Fox has a large audience of “undecideds” in it’s demo. It’s not wise to avoid making the dem case to these people.
It also makes dems look wimpy to avoid Fox. Not smart.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:47 pmFox News “We’re not as bad as Al Qeada, but we’re close.”
June 6th, 2007 at 2:48 pmct
they are all scared to death of a tough question. pussies.
Not at all, they’ll just call it a hypothetical and refuse to answer it, just like Sunday night.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:48 pmHe is right. If they can’t face a dabate monorated by someone that is not going to ask nice questions, they don’t need to run this country.
Comment by Kevin — June 6, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
‘Cause we know the current White House Press Corps only asks the very toughest questions of the current administration, right?
June 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pmCandidates that can’t legitimize my propaganda outlet can’t expect that they’ll be treated with any respect by my propaganda outlet (whether they appear for this debate or not).
Roger Ailes went on further to say: “Bring me Solo and the Wookiee. They will all suffer for this outrage.”
June 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pmhttp://www.someguywithawebsite.com/ cartoons/ 2007/ 070604_basement.html
June 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pmFunny premise, but not much of an artist. Which one is Biden and which one is Paul?
With any kind of luck those rough-and-tumble candidates that are willing to be part of a fox broadcast will blast the hell out of fox . . . ‘just like Al Qaeda would’
June 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pmBoycotting FOX News is the best thing the Democratic candidates have done so far in this election cycle.
Kucinich should join them in solidarity.
We’ve already seen Vulf Bleatzer act like a total a$$hole, taking up more microphone time than two of the Democratic candidates combined!
They could hardly get a word in edgewize for all his bullcr@p.
FOX News is NOT a legitimate news organization and the Democrats are wise to ignore them entirely.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pmSomebody give Jabba the Hutt another donut.
With any luck, he will fall over dead.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:50 pmRUCerious and others: Take that meme and run with it -FOX = Al Qaeda. Seriously, they are doing about as much harm to the country over the long term by keeping the populaton misinformed.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:51 pmgotta love it when they step into it like this don’t you?
June 6th, 2007 at 2:51 pmI think Jabba the Hutt has been to Pizza Hut too much lately.
He’s about a grbreadstick away from a massive coronary.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:51 pmdon’t worry too much. you can see it is about to squirt. it’s family will fight and fight for control and ruin it for everyone.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:52 pmso we only have to deal with his calling anyone other than his own type a traitor. we all have different views of what treason means.
The real pussies are all those Republiqueers in the West Wing.
And Trudi Giuliani. Jeez, what a pussy. He knows his bra size.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:52 pmwhat’s monorated mean?….
*snicker*
June 6th, 2007 at 2:52 pmergo, Fox = terrorists
Comment by Marge N. Overa — June 6, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
Fox = Al Qaeda?!?!
Who woulda thunk it?
Comment by geoman77 — June 6, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
Now that’s a really unfair generalization. I’ve read a lot of speeches by UBL and al-Qa’ida and despite their overzealous religious ideology, they actually do have a clue of what’s going on in the world. Comparing them to Fox is a pretty low blow…
June 6th, 2007 at 2:53 pmThe Republican candidates are afraid to be in a debate run by the League of Women Voters. I guess they’re scarier than Al Qaeda.
The Democrats should be prepared to debate on Fox after the Republicans have their debates run by Sam Seder and Keith Olbermann. And not a moment before.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:54 pmDemocratic candidates need to say straight up that they will not extend an aura of legitimacy to a propaganda network.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:55 pmwhat’s “monorated” mean?….
*snicker*
Comment by trueblue
An approval rating of 1 ?
June 6th, 2007 at 2:55 pmIt’s comforting to know that Roger Ailes embraces the Bill O’Reilly school of bluster. If someone refuses to subject himself to being used as propaganda, then he’s obviously “afraid” to “face someone tough”.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What a bunch of tools.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:55 pmSome guys just fit the image of the Fat-Cat Corporate Jet Conservative.
Ailes, Limbaugh, Cheney….feel free to add to the list
June 6th, 2007 at 2:56 pmMr. Ailes’ tirade is about his fear that others may follow suit and render irrelevant Fox News in all its works.
Mr. Ailes’ claims, like Mr. Bush’s, are not about al Qaeda or courage. They are about his hopes that we’ll confuse his 6 mm with 6 inches of responsible broadcast journalism. Mr. Ailes is showing fear for his job, fear for his ratings, and fear that others will begin to see that his empire and those he supinely supports are nothing but divisive and harmful bags of wind.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:56 pmIt also makes dems look wimpy to avoid Fox. Not smart.
Comment by Toliver
Do Cheney and Bush look “whimpy” for not going on every other MSM outlet do do interviews except Fox? Just asking.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:56 pmRoger has a point. Dems, used to the softballs from the “usual suspects” and co-conspirators in the MSM, have a difficult time explaining to the American people they are concerned enough about national defense to actually defend the U.S. Unfortunately, 90% of contemporary Dems are soft on security and terrorism issues - but this is not surprising when one considers the standard bearers the Donk/Dove Party has relied on to carry their message….George McGovern, John Kerry, Jimmy Carter and the Bill Clinton - who viewed terrorism primarily as a “legal issue”. It’s pretty tough for a dove to evolve into an eagle…..
June 6th, 2007 at 2:57 pmFox News anchor Bill O’Reilly has compared people who oppose participating in Fox News’ presidential debates to Nazis, claiming they “lie, distort, defame, all the time†using “propaganda techniques perfected by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi minister of information.†Fellow Fox News anchor Mort Kondracke claimed they are “not about free speech†and guilty of “junior grade Stalinism.â€
Classic Goebbels tactic…preemptively and loudly accuse the opposition of the misdeeds you yourself are guilty of…then, when the opposition states (quite correctly) that you are the one guilty of the misdeeds you are accusing them of, they come off as petty, derivative, and false.
The neocons have done their homework…have we?
June 6th, 2007 at 2:57 pm“Roger Ailes went on further to say: “Bring me Solo and the Wookiee. They will all suffer for this outrage.â€
Comment by kelso”
hahahaha.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:58 pmIt’s time to shut FOX news network down, revoke their broadcast license, force them into bankruptcy, and deport Rupert Murdoch back to Australia.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:58 pmJabba The Hutt runs FOX News.
No wonder they suck.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:58 pm“Ailes, Limbaugh, Cheney….feel free to add to the list…
Rove, of course, Kyle Sampson in a few more years, Denny Hastert…
June 6th, 2007 at 2:58 pmlol kelso
June 6th, 2007 at 2:59 pma Pussy is a Liberal pissing his pants as his head is being sawed off while trying to teach a terrorist peace . what are you guys gonna do when what is over there is here where military action is outlawed except when a Democrat President uses them to kill his Countries Citizens .
June 6th, 2007 at 2:59 pmWhy are most CEOs corpulent fat slobs who look like they cook and eat employees?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:02 pmThese people certainly have an exaggerates sense of their self worth, don’t they.
“they are all scared to death of a tough question. pussies.”
Yeah, tough questions like asking a very complex question and then saying “now, this is a ‘yes or no’ question”. Or, something like “When did you stop beating your wife”. And then there’s always the “raise your hand if you agree with this statement”….oh wait, Wolf Blitzer already stole than one.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:02 pmI knew FUX was a terrorist network!
June 6th, 2007 at 3:02 pmRupert Murdoch at the World Economic Forum earlier this year:
Murdoch was asked if News Corp. had managed to shape the agenda on the war in Iraq. His answer?
“No, I don’t think so. We tried.†Asked by Rose for further comment, he said: “We basically supported the Bush policy in the Middle East…”
Even conservatives acknowledge that Fox leans right. And its dishonesty and lack of journalistic ethics is easily proven.
It would be stupid for Democrats to go on Faux news, legitimize it as a news source, and give control of the content to people who have a demonstrated desire to tear them down. Stupid.
And the CBC is even more moronic to not cancel the debate in the light of this week’s John Conyers-as-Wiliam Jefferson little teleplay.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:03 pm…this bloviating TREASONOUS tub of pig sh*t…
…is just whining because the Democrats…
…won’t legitimize his (and his right wing propaganda network’s)…
…TREASON…
…may ALL of his kind…
…disappear…
June 6th, 2007 at 3:04 pmSo the Dems shouldn’t get there message out to people that don’t agree with them?????? Do they have a message? Can they answer hard questions? Do you folks know anything about the 10th Amendment?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:05 pmHere go the trolls again, trying to hijack the topic.
Topic is: Roger Ailes, aka Jabba The Hutt.
Does he eat employees for lunch?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:05 pm“It’s time to shut FOX news network down, revoke their broadcast license, force them into bankruptcy, and deport Rupert Murdoch back to Australia.”
Comment by Jay Randal
**Jay, Did you think this idea up all by yourself, or did Hugo Chavez give you a few pointers?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:07 pmOT,
From FDL:
June 6th, 2007 at 3:07 pmSen. Leahy Needs Our Help
Where do they find these wackos? I remember when Jeff Gannon threw softball questions at George.
Besides, Fox is supposed to host the debate not take part in it , Fair and balanced is such a scam. Just like these trolls here. They scream about liberal media then don’t even recognize it’s Aisles who is the neo-liberal monarch these followers of old fart logic parrot here today.
Aisles has been a republican political hack for a long time that realized his 28% can only win thru racist controversial tv and neverending smear tactics cloaking itself with fair and balanced banner.
National Enquirer TV is why Democrats don’t want to be seen on it. The Jerry Springer News Channel..
June 6th, 2007 at 3:07 pmIt is quite reasonable for the Democrats to reject FOX News for their debates. And proper.
The Congressional Black Caucus is doing the wrong thing by getting in bed with FOX News.
FOX News has a proven hostility to Democrats and the left in general. They are not a legitimate news organization and are incapable of running a debate without injecting their anti-Democratic bias.
The CBC needs to do the right thing and dump FOX News.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:07 pmIf Democratic candidates want to make their points to the members of the Faux “News” audience, they can attempt to that without having their words filtered and “translated” by Faux. Faux “News” has illegitimized itself, and thus, earns a no-confidence vote from the Democratic candidates.
Citizens who truly care about the message and positions of Democratic candidates (whether they are Democrats, Republicans or Independents) will make the effort to find the debates and position statements via any of the myriad of other, credible news outlets. Those who would not approach these candidates with an open mind won’t bother to switch their channels from Faux. Thus, Democrats can afford to ignore this partisan, propoganda channel.
It has nothing to do with fear, except that all of us, voters and candidates alike, should fear the damage continually done by Faux “News” to the truth. They have “terrorized” the truth-finding and reporting profession, blasting away at responsible, honorable journalistic practices with their right-wing favoritism.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:09 pmagain with the spurious Nazi comparisons! when will these Brown Shirts learn???
it’s not that they can’t face Fox (as if you were formidable), it’s that they don’t want to be associated with the BS you spread over the airwaves… just like I’d refuse to attend a dinner hosted by the KKK, the candidates don’t want to lend any legitimacy to your organization…
June 6th, 2007 at 3:09 pmOnly a troll would back a Alfred Hitchcock here and his insane science fiction reality he envisions.
The cuckoo trolls have landed and their leader is Alfred Hitchcock.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:09 pmFaux has ZERO credibility - period. It is blocked at my house - can’t even see that trash as I channel surf.
Hating the repukian propaganda mafia daily
Remember people this is national IGNORE THE TROLLS DAY
June 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pmIt’s pretty tough for a dove to evolve into an eagle…..
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Uh, don’t you mean “for a dove to get intelligently designed into an eagle?”
June 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pmterrorist and Liberals think that Bush is the Enemy . Listen up Liberals your Enemies Enemy is your Friend
June 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pmJaba does not get it, it is not that the dems do not want to be on FOX, the issue is they want to be on real new outlet, not the infotainment crap fest that is FOX NEWS…
Fact is you can get more relevant news from 30 mins of Cartoon Network than FOX NEWS
June 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pmKevin,
June 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pmSo you can’t tell me what your own word, “monorated” means? And it’s debate, not dabate…. and I don’t know where to begin with post#51.
#24 Jimbo,
June 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pmI would, but al Qaeda would probably issue a fatwah on my ass for the disrespectful action.
PS. Praise Allah!
Watch “Outfoxed:Rupoert Murdoch’s War on Journalism”. Ailes in on KKKarl Rove’s speed dial for their daily talking points meeting. This asshole is a Reichwing Wonk from the Reagan administration.
No serious candidate should ever submit themselves to FAUX Noise Channel.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:11 pm#38 vv
The point is that none of the other networks are hardwired into the RNC or any other political party. Fox is. Fox is extremely partisan, works in concert with the White House, the GOP leaders in Congress, and the RNC. And, they just flat-out lie their asses off.
I think it’s interesting that Roger Ailes is comparing Fox Noise to al Qaeda. But, I don’t think the Dems should let al Qaeda host their debates, either.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:11 pmProgressives like Fat Papa and Jay R. have no sense of humour!! Threatened, you wish to shut down media opposition….Conservatives uses your sites and media as sources of amusement and as an excellent tool to keep up to date with the looney tunes spinning in our domestic enemies collective brains…..
June 6th, 2007 at 3:12 pm*Jay, Did you think this idea up all by yourself, or did Hugo Chavez give you a few pointers?
Comment by valiant venus
Aisles wants to help Murdoch, a Queen loving liberal, subjugate Americas Jesus under the crown of liberal British Monarchy
June 6th, 2007 at 3:12 pmDems, used to the softballs from the “usual suspects†and co-conspirators in the MSM, have a difficult time explaining to the American people they are concerned enough about national defense to actually defend the U.S. Unfortunately, 90% of contemporary Dems are soft on security and terrorism issues - but this is not surprising when one considers the standard bearers the Donk/Dove Party has relied on to carry their message….George McGovern, John Kerry, Jimmy Carter and the Bill Clinton - who viewed terrorism primarily as a “legal issueâ€. It’s pretty tough for a dove to evolve into an eagle…..
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Well typed, Valiant Anus. Unfortunately, it’s a crock of sh!t, but it almost sounds as if you’ve thought it through. Almost.
Unfortunately, the “softballs” from the MSM are only in your mind, and the “standard bearers” that you cite go back to the 70s. If you want to go back even further, Democrats led the nation during WWII, remember that? More recently, John Kerry actually fought in Vietnam, unlike the bulk of the BushCo team, and Bill Clinton prosecuted successful military campaigns as Commander-in-Chief.
And on top of that, given the successes in stopping terrorist plots both dangerous and absurd around the world in the last few years, and the disaster of the al-Qaeada Recruiting project we have going on in Iraq, the notion that fighting terrorism is better left to police work than armed conflict seems pretty effing wise.
But you are right about the difficulty of changing a dove to a hawk. it also works the other way. Which is why you can’t really depend on any hawkish Republicans to be able to deliver peace. They simply don’t believe in it.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:12 pm45, what are you talking about…you actually sound crazy.
38. Just because you pull stats out of your ass (90% of Dems are soft on terriorism) doesn’t make it so…until you can prove that stat, don’t bother posting anymore…
June 6th, 2007 at 3:13 pmI’m sorry, what obligation do any of the presidential candidates have to appear on Fox news? Hmm, to be called a pussy from a big fat guy, oooooh, now that’s real motivation. Looks like Roger has faced too many cheesburgers……
June 6th, 2007 at 3:13 pm“So the Dems shouldn’t get there message out to people that don’t agree with them??????”
they should and they will, just not on fox. watch the other debates if you’re concerned.
“Can they answer hard questions?”
yes, they can. watch the debates.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:13 pmComment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Something seriously wrong with a reichwingnut female. Dark past that should be discussed with professionals.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:13 pmUh, don’t you mean “for a dove to get intelligently designed into an eagle?â€
Comment by toasterhead
I almost got Pepsi all over my keyboard!
June 6th, 2007 at 3:14 pmLMAO
terrorist and Liberals think that Bush is the Enemy . Listen up Liberals your Enemies Enemy is your Friend
Comment by Harry Truman — June 6, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
Terrorists don’t think Bush is the enemy. They love Bush. He’s the best recruiting tool they’ve ever had.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:15 pm“Uh, don’t you mean “for a dove to get intelligently designed into an eagle?—
hahahahahaha.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:15 pmFox News anchor Bill O’Reilly has compared people who oppose participating in Fox News’ presidential debates to Nazis, claiming they “lie, distort, defame, all the time†using “propaganda techniques perfected by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi minister of information.â€
So, will the Dems be rounding up right-wing assclowns like O’Reilly and Ailes, and stuffing them into the gas chambers any time soon? This I gotta see.
Oh, the poor persecuted lying sacks of shit.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:16 pmI bet if Alfred “Aisles” Hitchcock turned around we would see murdochs arm up his arse operating the ventriliquist dummies mouth.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:16 pmsince the dems aren’t having a debate on the g4 network, they must be afraid of aspiring ninjas and ‘cops’ reruns.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:16 pmTrueblue - Thanks for the firedoglake link!! Just MORE evidence Progs care more about our enemies than national security….Keep up the good work!!
June 6th, 2007 at 3:16 pmI KNEW that Foxnews was AL QAEDA!!!
WHY does Al Queda HATE America?
Ummm….
I mean…
I can’t RECALL…. (yeah, THAT’S it!!)
June 6th, 2007 at 3:17 pmCheney won’t do O’Reilly, but he has done interviews with other networks, as has Bush.
What we’re talking about here is POTUS debates. This is a poor stance to take for the dems.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:17 pmHe is right. If they can’t face a dabate monorated by someone that is not going to ask nice questions, they don’t need to run this country.
Comment by Kevin — June 6, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
So now Fox News is the measuring stick that Democratic candidates must face in order for America to make an informed selection in the 2008 elections?
You are so full of shit.
You know, I find it incredibly hard to take Fox News seriously when John Gibson admits to surfing the Internet for news stories for his show and invites Danny Bonaduce (”Danny” from The Partridge Family) on the show to discuss why there are pictures of Danny on the net showing him without a shirt.
And I won’t even get into the lies and distortions that flow from Bill O’s mouth.
And let’s not forget the pathetic apology that Fox offered after showing video footage of Rep. John Conyers when they reported on the charges against Rep. William Jefferson. In their first “apology” they didn’t bother to point out that they mistakenly showed images of Conyers…they just mentiond that they showed the “wrong video.” I see from the latest post on TP that Fox has made a second attempt at an apology.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:19 pmHey TP, I think they can speak for themselves. Nice try with the legitimize angle. Hate to bust the news, FOX News is number one across the board in cable which makes them uber-legitimate as far as the others are concerned. So MSN is legitimate because they lean left? Give me a break. Democrat candidates want to boycott FOX in hopes that they go away and stop exposing the comedy of their positions. TP isn’t a legitimate news source but it doesn’t stop me from coming on and straightening out the conspiracist-laden rantings you guys conjure up. Show some stones!!!! Oh yeah….sorry….libs haven’t found those since JFK at the Cuban Missile Crisis.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:19 pmFOX News has a proven hostility to Democrats and the left in general. They are not a legitimate news organization and are incapable of running a debate without injecting their anti-Democratic bias.
Comment by Emerald — June 6, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
If the Dems message was so good and right. Why does it matter if they get asked questions that would or wouldn’t point that out? My guess is that the message just can’t stand up to good questioning. And if it can’t in a debate it won’t in practice.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:19 pm#67 vv
Conservatives uses your sites and media as sources of amusement and as an excellent tool to keep up to date with the looney tunes spinning in our domestic enemies collective brains…..
And that’s why we love you trolls so much. We get to observe your over-the-top right-wing nuttiness without having to go to the right-wing blogs. It’s sort of like room service.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:19 pmMy whole problem with not going on FNC is that I watched all the debates on both sides, and FNC asked the Repubs the toughest questions out of all their debates. Hume and Wallace were vicious in their questioning.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:20 pmSo by Ailes’ retarded logic - Fox News is Al Qaeda? I will say they are both extremist in their propaganda…
June 6th, 2007 at 3:20 pmI was also wondering wtf “dabate monorated” (#10) meant? Nice questions? How about “How many 737s can you land on those big, broad shoulders of yours?” and “Some say you give great soundbite. Tell us all about it!”
Romney is exposing all the wingnutz as the closet homos they are. Just come out already!
These mouthbreathers just do it to themselves, don’t they? You can’t write shit that good…..
and WTF is that hairy numbnutz (#45) babbling about? A pussy is a wingnut who is here trolling and not over in Iraq fighting his/her pet war.
Ha ha ha….gold Jerry……GOLD!
June 6th, 2007 at 3:22 pmToliver how so?
They (individually and collectively) have decided that their message would be better suited coming from a respected source. They have decided that Fox News would not lend creditability to their campaign. The market has spoken. The real issue is that Fox is now scared that others will no longer see it as a credible news source.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:22 pmConservatives uses your sites and media as sources of amusement and as an excellent tool to keep up to date with the looney tunes spinning in our domestic enemies collective brains…..
Comment by valiant venus
You wish. The left has been kicking the neo-cons and the Gops ass all over the tubes for quite a while now. I know it gets depressing after a while with all the Haggards, And Foleys, And Abramoffs and Delays, Libby etc etc. Set back after setback for the value voters.
Idon’t blame you for ignroing reality V V. I really don’t, It’s tough goiing from faux eagles to an ugly group of lice infested buzzards.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:22 pmWell valiant venus > how is your ficticious hubby doing and your non-children? Must be hot in San Diego, California, so you are on the TP threads doing your part to foist Bush crap on us posters. Rupert Mordoch is an ugly disgusting creep, not an American citizen, so we have a right to deport his butt back to Australia.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:24 pmFox ‘news’ is simply the propaganda wing of BushCo and the Republican party, it’s no surprise that they say these things.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:24 pm#66 - “The point is that none of the other networks are hardwired into the RNC or any other political party. Fox is. Fox is extremely partisan, works in concert with the White House, the GOP leaders in Congress, and the RNC. And, they just flat-out lie their asses off.” Chimpeach
**Instead of the mindless typing…do some research. Look into the political backgrounds of Chris Mattews, Jeff Greenfield, Al Hunt, Tim Russert, Nina Totenberg, Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher, Georgie Stephanopolous, etc. etc etc. etc…….The spin of the Left is not new - Walter Cronkite, and Dan Rather certainly blew any cover or fairness they once had……
Thanks for playing……….
June 6th, 2007 at 3:25 pmAnd if it can’t in a debate it won’t in practice.
Comment by Kevin
FOX doesn’t ask questions — they act like buffoons and won’t stop their chimpering and chatterinf long enough for anygood to come from a debate. I lose interest in every single one of FOX interviews because the fairly unbalanced talking head wont shut the feck up long enough for anyone to respond to the idiotic Archie Bunker reporters idiotic statements.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:28 pm#82 Toliver
Cheney won’t do O’Reilly, but he has done interviews with other networks, as has Bush.
What we’re talking about here is POTUS debates. This is a poor stance to take for the dems.
No, actually it’s a very useful comparison. Cheney and Bush and even Rice are very careful about who they allow to interview them and under what circumstances. They’re frightened of being asked a tough question without getting to see it in advance and prepare for it. Bush and Cheney have always kept inside their protective bubbles. They actually shield Bush from having to see any protesters or protest signs that might hurt his feelings. His audiences have always been carefully screened. They throw people out of his town hall meetings just for having objectionable bumper stickers on their cars.
No wonder he’s afraid to go after bin Laden.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:28 pmCut to the Democratic debate on Fox:
O’RiledUp - Question for Mrs Clinton:
What did you say to your hubby when you walked in on him getting his knob polished by that intern?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:29 pm“This is a poor stance to take for the dems.”
why is it that non-dems all seem to say that? they’ll debate where they want. this is after all, america. the dems can choose which networks will sponsor each debate.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:29 pmFOX NEWS ISN’T REAL NEWS?
Anyone who thinks that any news source out there is unbiased is fooling themselves. You have been brainwashed by liberal media outlets to believe that their news is the “right” news … that it is balanced and lacking expression of political beliefs or opinions.
Sorry .. but that is flat out wrong. It is impossible to rid the media of political bias. Media is not just about how you say something but what you choose to talk about. The New York Times putting the Muslim JFK plot on the 37th page—liberal media bias. Not acknowledging the fact that the conspirators were Muslim in their on-line digest, liberal media bias.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:29 pmActually, if they back down from their conviction that Fox is just a bunch of hacks with no credibility then they surely won’t be able to handle the tough decisions that will come with little political reward as POTUS.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:29 pmThe spin of the Left is not new - Walter Cronkite, and Dan Rather certainly blew any cover or fairness they once had……Thanks for playing……….
Comment by valiant venus
Thats called centrism Vapid Clenis.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:30 pmI remember when Jeff Gannon threw softball questions at George.
Comment by Aisle is a hack
Is that a metaphor for sperm?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:30 pm“My guess is that the message just can’t stand up to good questioning. And if it can’t in a debate it won’t in practice.”
BWWAAAAHHHAAAAAA
You mean like Bush having questions screened?
You mean like Bush stammering his way through those screened questions?
You mean like Bush Admin officials appearing nearly solely on Fox opinion shows?
It seems your statement only makes sense if it’s directed towards the republicans. LOL
June 6th, 2007 at 3:31 pmEric, what written or otherwise understood oath of loyalty or contract compels ANY candidate to appear on any news vehicle, let alone Fox? Interesting that you forgot to mention that it’s a choice thing. Isn’t that what conservatives are about, choice and the consequences that go with that freedom?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:32 pmAiles is right that Democrats who can’t face Fox can’t face Al Qaeda. Just to be fair and balanced, the Democrats should refuse to attend Al Qaeda sponsored debates too.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:32 pmI would think the Dems would want to go on Fox to reveal Fox as a partisan mouthpiece (if that’s what they are) — not run away and hide. But then again, that’s what wimps do. When the going gets tough, run for it!
The Repubs didn’t refuse to participate on a debate on CNN — even though CNN is quite liberal in its coverage.
Dems = (insert favorite invertebrate here)
June 6th, 2007 at 3:33 pmLMAO, as If Aisles or Vannity and Culled, Flush Dimbulb, Gwynn Blech, MAnne Coldturd, Filth O’Lielly or any of these perennial pedantic pinheads will ever battle or face Al Qaeda. They would be the first one out the doors after they finally stopped slipping and sliding in the pools of urine they leaked.
Aisles would need three pairs of depends to run away from Al Qaeda.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:34 pmMedia is not just about how you say something but what you choose to talk about. The New York Times putting the Muslim JFK plot on the 37th page—liberal media bias. Not acknowledging the fact that the conspirators were Muslim in their on-line digest, liberal media bias.
Comment by Harry Truman — June 6, 2007 @ 3:29 pm
So what you’re saying is that anything less than blatant Islamophobia and fearmongering is “liberal media bias?”
Sounds good to me.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:34 pm#94
Yes instead of debating each issue on its merits lets label everyone that we disagree with left. Then whatever they say we label as spin and ignore.
I can’t wait until the Republican start telling the rest of us what we can and can’t say. Oh wait you already do that by calling everything you disagree with unpatriotic.
How very American of you.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:35 pmHarry Truman,
Anyone who thinks that any news source out there is unbiased is fooling themselves. You have been brainwashed by ‘conservative’ media outlets to believe that their news is the “right†news … that it is balanced and lacking expression of political beliefs or opinions.
Hope you caught that change.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:36 pmDems = (insert favorite invertebrate here)
Comment by Cynicon Implant — June 6, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
Jellyfish.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:36 pmIt’s pretty tough for a dove to evolve into an eagle…..
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Uh, don’t you mean “for a dove to get intelligently designed into an eagle?â€
Comment by toasterhead
Good one toasterhead.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmHey Cynicon Implant, why should Republicans refuse to go on frequently friendly CNN? I notice they refused Air America’s invitation.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmOnce again HTruman you’re a hack…the Muslim JFK plot appeared on the front page, but you get your news from one source, O’Reilly. Most news is slanted, thats why most people read two or more newspapers, watch two or three news programs, go to two or more blogs. If you get your news from only one source, that half of the population in the US thinks is *strongly* biased one way…then what you’re getting isn’t news, is it?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pm“The New York Times putting the Muslim JFK plot on the 37th page—liberal media bias.”
LOL Harry Truman says he knows all media is biased and to prove it he pulls this lie from Bill O’s ass. What a moron.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmBut then again, that’s what wimps do. When the going gets tough, run for it!
Comment by Cynicon Implant
Like Bush not answering questions to European media in Cezh Republic?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmOff topic, but interesting…
Latest 3 USA Yesterday / Galloping Polls
———————-Dates— App Dis Duh
USA Today/Gallup 6/1-3/07 32 62 6
USA Today/Gallup 5/4-6/07 34 63 3
USA Today/Gallup 4/13-15/07 36 60 4
Down, swirling down the terlet goes the chymps approval ratings.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmEach month he loses two percent in approval, his only hope is that the duhs continue to climb.
Cynicon and Kevin
Repubs = (Insert favorite single celled organism here)
June 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmJuan C why don’t you ever have any serious adult dialog ? With you its always that same childish juvenile nonsense.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:38 pm“Anyone who thinks that any news source out there is unbiased is fooling themselves.”
your understanding of journalism is right up fox’s alley.
“The New York Times putting the Muslim JFK plot on the 37th page—liberal media bias.”
the republican mayor of nyc wants you to ‘get a life.’ he’s not afraid of a homeless carribean man with no connection to al qaeda, or as roger ailes calls it, fox news.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:38 pmCynicon Implant,
“even though CNN is quite liberal in its coverage. ”
This is the great thing about the great “LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS!!!”
You guys always cry foul about it, but you have no way to back up the assertion. Do you have proof that CNN prefers a liberal slant on it’s presentation of the news. Or are you just upset that , as usual, the facts have that very unfortunate liberal slant.
Just because the facts aren’t in your favor, doesn’t mean the media is biased against you.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:40 pmTosterhead , do you know how to define Phobia ? if so define it , if you cannot google it. but remember everything that you google they keep a record of for 2 yrs.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:40 pm#69 - “Unfortunately, the “softballs†from the MSM are only in your mind, and the “standard bearers†that you cite go back to the 70s.”
You might have missed Big Mouth Jimmy Carter and his recent promouncements. Unfortunately, as easy to overlook the mindless collaborator, Jimmy C. - Al Jezeera did not
“If you want to go back even further, Democrats led the nation during WWII, remember that?”
What part of the term “contemporary Dem” confused you?? The Dem Party has NOT had a President concerned with strong National Defense since JFK. Period.
“More recently, John Kerry actually fought in Vietnam, unlike the bulk of the BushCo team,…”
……and returning home, Kerry disgraced his military brothers in Congressional hearings - the self-serving weasel. Honestly, I can’t remember if his Congressional performance was before or after he threw (or didn’t throw) his medals/ ribbons over the White House fence
“….and Bill Clinton prosecuted successful military campaigns as Commander-in-Chief.”
Agreed, no one can destroy an aspirin factory better than Bill Clinton (or ignore an attack on the USS Cole). And those missiles launched against Al Qeada certainly made a strong impression on BinLaden.
As for the Bosnian campaign - he WAS correct (and I have said so numerous times…..and because it was at the negligent Euros doorstep, they EVEN pitched in…..
June 6th, 2007 at 3:40 pmMedia is not just about how you say something but what you choose to talk about. The New York Times putting the Muslim JFK plot on the 37th page—liberal media bias. Not acknowledging the fact that the conspirators were Muslim in their on-line digest, liberal media bias.
Comment by Harry Truman —
Harry,
What a real journalist thinks about Fox
And, the NYT DID run the story on page one; right under the fold.
Try again.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:40 pmbloomburg is not a republican he is a RINO
June 6th, 2007 at 3:41 pmHmmm… I wonder what “propaganda techniques” he’s talking about…
Now who does that sound like?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:41 pmWith you its always that same childish juvenile nonsense.
Comment by Harry Truman
Dont you have some japanese kids to nuke?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:42 pmOh please, the Repubs are nothing but spiracle (exoskeleton here_____) breathing cockroaches. Your nervious systems don’t run down your back cowards, it runs down your yellow bellies. Shine a light on a cockroach or republican and they react the same way. They run for the cover of darkness!
June 6th, 2007 at 3:43 pmFunny how the trolls come out in force to defend Fox News’ legitimacy yet the are absent on other topics such as the Turkish Surge.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:43 pm#91 - JayR. - Still wanting to shut down Fox News?? Hugo would be SOOO proud!!!
June 6th, 2007 at 3:43 pmCrump’s Brother of course there is liberal bias you fool thats why the jfk story was on page 37 of the NYT and why Dan Rather is still at CBS . he is soooo good at making up the News : )
June 6th, 2007 at 3:44 pmFox says boo and we aren’t jumping with fear anymore.
It’s a great message to this country that candidates won’t aide Fox with their slanted self interests.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:44 pmvaliant venus so bill Clinton was right in the bosnian campaign ? Right , we gotta protect those Peaceful Muslims Wink !
June 6th, 2007 at 3:46 pmand returning home, Kerry disgraced his military brothers in Congressional hearings - the self-serving weasel.
George Bush disgraced the guard by signing up for s six year contract with America (sound familiar? heh.) and only fulfille about 4 years. George did not fulfill his Patriotic contract with America. But went on to Harvard and hypocritically championed the Vietnam war..
What a pal, what a guy to leave his fellow troops behind serving their country while George was partying in college.
HEY V V? Is Kerry or George running for office? *rolls eyes*
June 6th, 2007 at 3:47 pmIt’s a matter of definition. Wingnuts define “liberal media bias” as “insufficient right wing propaganda.” Anyone who criticizes the current administration, criticizes any Republicans, suggests that right wing Christian organizations are in error . . . all are guilty of “liberal bias”.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:48 pm#126 Juan,
Wow. That was some slap-back.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:48 pmValiant- you follow the fascist side, suck up the spittle and lick the boots you love so much and I’ll stay with the remaining part of the media that sometimes questions and offers opinions. Your keyhole perspective is your view from a prison you don’t even see. Dostoyevsky could have written a great story about your happily myopic mind.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:48 pmYes valiant venus, I want to see FOX news shut down, but has nothing to do with Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. FOX is a degenerate propaganda outfit that spews lies, and distortions, so that is why FOX’s broadcasting license must be revoked.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:49 pmActually, if they back down from their conviction that Fox is just a bunch of hacks with no credibility then they surely won’t be able to handle the tough decisions that will come with little political reward as POTUS.
Comment by ben
Exactly, if the Dems debate on Fox they alienate their base. And waste their time. I wouldn’t watch Fox even if all the debates were on Fox. Watching Fox News is like reading The National Enquirer, they both kill brain cells.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:49 pmTosterhead , do you know how to define Phobia ? if so define it , if you cannot google it. but remember everything that you google they keep a record of for 2 yrs.
Comment by Harry Truman — June 6, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
Phobia: n. an uncontrollable, irrational, and persistent fear of a specific object, situation, or activity.
Hmm - I see your point. “Islamophobia” may not truly fit this definition. While it’s certainly irrational and persistent, it is also most definitely controllable. Fox and the other manipulators on the right have controlled it - and used it as an instrument of control - for far too long. It’s high time for rational and sensible people to reverse this trend before it gets us into even more pointless wars on abstract concepts.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:50 pmStill wanting to shut down Fox News?? Hugo would be SOOO proud!!!
Comment by valiant venus
Wrong. You can watch Fox News in Venezuela. If you are gonna troll, get some facts.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:50 pmAnd on top of that, given the successes in stopping terrorist plots both dangerous and absurd around the world in the last few years, and the disaster of the al-Qaeada Recruiting project we have going on in Iraq, the notion that fighting terrorism is better left to police work than armed conflict seems pretty effing wise.
Comment by KRank — June 6, 2007 @ 3:12 pm
Let us not forget that Bush himself told us that we cannot win the “war” on terror the way a conventional war can be won. He went on to say something about the fact that we will not be seeing any signing ceremonies where the terrorists surrender.
Let’s see…a conventional war is fought with troops and machinery until the enemy is militarily defeated, right? So if the “war” on terror can’t be won in this manner, that leaves, what, police work?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:50 pm#91 - JayR. - Still wanting to shut down Fox News?? Hugo would be SOOO proud!!!
Comment by valiant venus
I never said I wanted to shut FOX news down. I said they are too partial to host a debate. The FOX Fair and Balanced banner means about as much as Georges Mission Accomplished one does.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:50 pmHarry Truman,
“Crump’s Brother of course there is liberal bias you fool thats why the jfk story was on page 37 of the NYT and why Dan Rather is still at CBS . he is soooo good at making up the News”
Fool huh? How childish. Can’t come up with anything more degrading. That’s usually a strength of many of the righties that come one here to spout two bit RNC talking points.
So you surmise that since a story, which was led on the front page of the NYT, and because Dan Rather still pulls a check from CBS, that means there is a liberal bias? These are facts how? You have no empirical evidence.
You guys think that because the news doesn’t favor your viewpoint, that must mean there is a liberal conspiracy behind the delivery of said news. Just because the facts aren’t in your favor, doesn’t mean that there is a liberal slant.
And you guys think we are the moonbats.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:51 pmJPV - I know this will be VERY difficult for you to understand - nobody LIKES war. Unfortunately, the Left doesn’t value anything enough to defend and preserve it. This nation was born of war, was kept together through Civil War and will be defended by war with our most deadly, determined and patient enemy yet. No thanks to the Left.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:51 pmWow. That was some slap-back.
Comment by trueblue
I apologize, true. But that´s what happened.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:51 pm3503 …get the spin doctors out
June 6th, 2007 at 3:51 pmRichard Johnson - isn’t he guy who takes money from celebs in exchange for putting their names in the gossip column? And I care about his opinion because . . . .?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:52 pmWouldn’t it be better if the Democratic candidates just sent anonymous sources to the debate. Isn’t that really all the Right needs to substantiate the truth? It’s worked for the White House since the beginning. Ask Vernon Loeb, Brian Ross and Sue Schmidt. Their sources were anonymous and WRONG. But they stuck to their stories. So why bother with the real candidates?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:53 pm#94 vv
Instead of the mindless typing…do some research. Look into the political backgrounds of Chris Mattews, Jeff Greenfield, Al Hunt, Tim Russert, Nina Totenberg, Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher, Georgie Stephanopolous, etc. etc etc. etc…….The spin of the Left is not new - Walter Cronkite, and Dan Rather certainly blew any cover or fairness they once had……
Tell us a little about these “political backgrounds”. If Chris Matthews is your idea of a left-wing sympathizer, boy is he doing a crappy job. He’s been a lot more helpful to your side. He rarely challenges righties that lie on his show. Bill Maher doesn’t have a news show and he’s not on a news network. Jeff Greenfield is in the same boat as Matthews, much more helpful to you guys than he is to us. Al Hunt? I don’t even know where to find him anymore. I haven’t seen him in years. The last I heard, though, I think he could have been a lot harder on Bush, considering the way Georgie went into a drunken rage, spewing obscenities at him and wife Judy Woodruff in front of their 4 year old son, all because he didn’t like what Hunt said about his dad’s campaign. Russert? That’s your idea of a lefty? Please get serious now. Stephanopoulos couldn’t get anymore straight down the middle of the road if his life depended on it.
Olbermann–a welcome relief from the network news anchors who acquiesce to the right-wing spin machine. Cronkite–had the guts to say what was going on in Vietnam. Dan Rather–got the story right but used dubious evidence to support one small piece of it (dubious, as in alleged forgery but never proven to be).
Fox calls itself news, but it works hand-in-hand with the Republican party. That’s not a wild guess. That’s fact. Brit Hume was on the phone with Bill Frist trying to choreograph the Senate Republicans as they entered the Senate chamber so their entrance would appear as a backdrop for the opening of his show. It was the infamous Medicare bill signing and they wanted to tout it as a big victory for the GOP. Please enlighten us as to which other network news channel has a relationship like that with a political party.
Thanks for playing……….
One of us is playing. It ain’t me.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:53 pmValiant Anus, I apologize. I guess when you included George McGovern in your list of “Democratic standard-bearers” I didn’t realize you wante dto go back thirty-five to suppoirt your point but insist that I deal only with “contemporary” leaders. My bad for not noticing the uneven playing field and moveable goalposts.
i also liked how your overview of Clinton-era militray action extended only as far as a pair of surgical strikes directed at bin Laden (you remember HIM, don’t you? The president doesn’t) and didn’t mention Bosnia. Strange that you wouldn’t consider that conflict — it drove several of your compatriots in Congress into quite a lather at the time, what with their demands for an “exit strategy” and threats to cut off funding…
But you acknowldege that Republicans are incapable of waging peace. Thanks for that at least.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:54 pmHarry Truman line 130…You have been caught in a lie. You my friend are a liar. Your pants may in fact be on fire, I don’t know…most likely you aren’t wearing any pants…but that is a lie, which means you are more concerned with getting your biased information out than with the true. Is that not correct? explain how the NYT times did not have the JFK plot on the front page?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:54 pmThanks for playing……….
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
Sorry VV but as usual you are playing with yourself. What do you trolls care about the Dems debates anyway? And you guys pretending you care if they look bad by not participating on Fox is laughable. What are you all on the Ailes/Murdoch payroll? I hope so, otherwise you just parrot all the shit you hear there for no reason.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:54 pmdoesn’t make much sense to me that kind of remark. very weird.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:54 pmBased on the photo, it appears Mr. Ailes thinks “Al-Queda” is a type of pastry.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:54 pmHey Cynicon Implant, why should Republicans refuse to go on frequently friendly CNN? I notice they refused Air America’s invitation.
Comment by Eric Ferguson — June 6, 2007 @ 3:37 pm
Why would they? Nobody would hear it.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:55 pmthe repubs won’t debate on vh-1 because they’re afraid of old judas priest videos.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:56 pm“Yes valiant venus, I want to see FOX news shut down, but has nothing to do with Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. FOX is a degenerate propaganda outfit that spews lies, and distortions, so that is why FOX’s broadcasting license must be revoked.” Comment by Jay Randal
Jay Randal - Hmmm…Let me guess…..you’re not very familiar with the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, are you??
June 6th, 2007 at 3:57 pmPV - I know this will be VERY difficult for you to understand - nobody LIKES war. Unfortunately, the Left doesn’t value anything enough to defend and preserve it. This nation was born of war, was kept together through Civil War and will be defended by war with our most deadly, determined and patient enemy yet. No thanks to the Left.
Comment by valiant venus
Your historically inaccurate. The Democrats have been the war party, it was from the time of Mckinley to Bush Sr that the usually peaceful GOP began war. But even then, V V Bush Sr backed out of going into baghdad. He cut and Ran.
Osama is a freedom fighter of the right, and it is no thanks to the right that we have these terrorists today.
Now quit being such a dishonest political hack.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:00 pmThe Repubs didn’t refuse to participate on a debate on CNN — even though CNN is quite liberal in its coverage.
Comment by Cynicon Implant
You Fox News watchers are a bunch of idiots. You don’t even know what the truth is anymore. I heard Fred Thompson won the debate on CNN … because he’s the only one who didn’t sound like an ignorant nutjob.
Interesting Dems don’t care where Repubs debate but you Repukes just have to bully Dems into doing things the way you want it done. Could you neocons take a couple of days off from your Fascism.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:00 pmShane - I could care less about the Dem debates EXCEPT they are an excellent method of catching up on much needed sleep! To be fair, I think the debates will be much more enlightening when the the field narrows…
Tooodles……….
June 6th, 2007 at 4:00 pm#105 Cynicon Implant
I would think the Dems would want to go on Fox to reveal Fox as a partisan mouthpiece (if that’s what they are) — not run away and hide. But then again, that’s what wimps do. When the going gets tough, run for it!
So, why hasn’t any of the rough tough Republicans accepted the Daily Show’s offer to host a debate?
June 6th, 2007 at 4:00 pmStupid Repuke Troll.
Air America Radio is heard all over the world on the Internet, on XM Satellite radio and all over the US on 70 AM and FM radio affiliates.
They’re under new management and better than ever.
And LOTS of people listen to AAR. But only intelligent people do.
That leaves out you, troll.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:00 pmJuan,
Don’t apologize.
I was impressed.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:01 pmUnfortunately, the Left doesn’t value anything enough to defend and preserve it.
Comment by valiant venus
Just let me clarify something from all this war-apology Nazi-style indoctrination. It would be lecturing for you to know which side of the political spectrum won an 8 hour/day labor, which side fought for women´s right to vote, which side fought for banning children labor, which side fought for better income, government representation of all people, etc., etc., etc. You should go to Bologna…you will know what Left is, instead of typing senseless propaganda trying to sound like you have a clue.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:01 pmJPV - I know this will be VERY difficult for you to understand - nobody LIKES war. Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
Except you cowardly wingnut sociopaths - who just *love* war. As it gives you an *excuse* to hate, torture and murder all of those *ranimals - whomever they are *this-week*!!! Right, Osama Ben Valiant-C*nt?
Unfortunately, the Left doesn’t value anything enough to defend and preserve it. Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
I’m sure that’s what you whiny cowardly wingnuts tell yourself to justify invading a country that didn’t attack us, while justifying *not* going after Osama and company that *did*. When you show that Saddam was someone we needed to *defend* ourselves from, we’ll stop laughing at your st*pid remarks, you Anorexic sociopath c*nt.
This nation was born of war, was kept together through Civil War and will be defended by war with our most deadly, determined and patient enemy yet. No thanks to the Left. Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
Oh, poor st*pid c*nt. The nation was NOT kept together *through* the civil war - in fact that’s what the war was about - the country *had-split*. As for keeping the country together, are you referring to all of the *republicans* that didn’t want to fight in either world war, and fought to shut down funding of it *even-after-we-were-attacked*?
You’re such a st*pid little c*nt - eat something Anorexia girl. You look insane today - AS USUAL…
And stop playing the *victim* card - dum bass. The iraqis didn’t *ATTACK* us, unless by *we*, you were referring to Israel?
June 6th, 2007 at 4:03 pmvaliant venus,
“you’re not very familiar with the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, are you??”
I’m guessing you aren’t. If you were, you’d realize the amazing amount of statutory and case law which says that when you are a broadcaster, you do not enjoy the same free speech rights as one might enjoy in print, or standing in front of your local federal building protesting.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:04 pmThe very amendment you speak of, Mighty aphrovenus, allows Jay Randal to say what he wants. Why does that scare you. If Fox would stand on it’s reporting ability instead of it’s slant this wouldn’t be an issue because there would be a Democratic debate on Fox. The candidates don’t want to legitimize Fox’s piss poor reporting.
For the head of Fox to throw the crap he does proves what a poor excuse for a “News” channel Fox news thinks it to be.
Let me guess, you just can’t accept that. Guess who gives a shit.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:04 pmvaliant venus > FOX spews propaganda which is NOT protected by the First Amendment. Now if FOX wants to change their station from a NEWS format to a comedy program, telling everybody its all parady, then I could care less what they do.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:04 pmHugo would love Fox news. A perfect marriage of Government propaganda and Media. He has his own version called Telesur.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:05 pmShane - I could care less about the Dem debates EXCEPT they are an excellent method of catching up on much needed sleep! Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
Then you must *love* the Republican conventions, where talk about defending a *fictional* country with *fictional* torture? BAHAHA - st*pid c*nt!
To be fair, I think the debates will be much more enlightening when the the field narrows… Tooodles………. Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
Yeah, you’re waiting for your draft dodging Thompson *pretend-he-man* to take on cross dressing *pretend* conservative Girliani?
BAHAHAA, we’re looking forward to that as we - st*pid c*nt!!
June 6th, 2007 at 4:05 pmJuan C why don’t you ever have any serious adult dialog ? With you its always that same childish juvenile nonsense.
Comment by Harry Truman
Why do you neocon trolls insist on pretending to be presidents? Can’t you just pick a name and stick with it? Maybe then people would bother to have a legitimate discussion with you.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:05 pm26 Us Dead in the first 6 days of June averaging 4.33 per day - I can saftely say I dont think this surge is working
June 6th, 2007 at 4:07 pmStupid Repuke trolls.
On the anniversary of D-day, they are smearing liberals again.
Plenty of liberals died on the beaches 63 years ago for our freedom.
It wasn’t all conservatives who sacrificed for our freedom.
And it definitely isn’t weathy Repukes dying in Iraq now, dumbass.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:07 pmValiant Venus
JPV - I know this will be VERY difficult for you to understand - nobody LIKES war. Unfortunately, the Left doesn’t value anything enough to defend and preserve it. This nation was born of war, was kept together through Civil War and will be defended by war with our most deadly, determined and patient enemy yet. No thanks to the Left.
This is the most absurd comment? explain to me how the left doesn’t value anything enough to defend and preserve it? You just spew stuff, constantly and hope something sticks, but nothing does. you know the the sentence where you say the nation was born of war, was kept together through civil war and will be defeneded by war…how is what we are doing in Iraq *defending our country* both the revolution and the civil war took place on US soil…its not called defending your country if you are attacking another. So call it what it is.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:07 pmUnfortunately, the Left doesn’t value anything enough to defend and preserve it.
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
I can think of one thing - the Constitution. You know, that piece of paper with all those funny words in it like “habeus corpus” and “due process” and “checks and balances” and “general welfare” and “full faith and credit” and “unreasonable searches and seizures” and “the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”
I know it’s just a piece of paper, but I and many other self-described liberals feel that this piece of paper - and all those funny words in it - is worth defending and preserving against attacks. Particularly when the attacks are coming from inside the executive branch, as they have been during this administration.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:07 pmDon’t forget “Woops I married my cousin&