Fox News CEO Ailes: ‘The Candidates That Can’t Face Fox, Can’t Face Al Qaeda’
Fox News CEO Ailes: ‘The Candidates That Can’t Face Fox, Can’t Face Al Qaeda’
Fox News anchor Bill O’Reilly has compared people who oppose participating in Fox News’ presidential debates to Nazis, claiming they “lie, distort, defame, all the time” using “propaganda techniques perfected by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi minister of information.” Fellow Fox News anchor Mort Kondracke claimed they are “not about free speech” and guilty of “junior grade Stalinism.”
This hysteria continued last night, when Fox News CEO Roger Ailes and News Corp. chief Rupert Murdoch co-hosted an awards show for opinion writing. During the event, Ailes “had some choice words for Democratic candidates who have decided not to debate on Fox.”
“The candidates that can’t face Fox, can’t face Al Qaeda,” said Mr. Ailes. “And that’s what’s coming.”
That was followed by applause from the crowd which featured several News Corp. executives and journalists from Murdoch-owned papers–Richard Johnson, the Post’s Page Six editor, for one.
Can there be any doubt left why presidential candidates don’t want to endorse Fox News?
The issue, of course, isn’t that presidential candidates — including Hillary Clinton, Chris Dodd, John Edwards, Barack Obama, Bill Richardson — are afraid of appearing on Fox. The issue is whether they want to legitimize this constant source of partisan misinformation by allowing Fox to claim that it is a real news source that can independently manage a presidential debate.
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Damn!! Jabba The Hutt LIVES!!
June 6th, 2007 at 2:41 pmergo, Fox = terrorists
June 6th, 2007 at 2:41 pmFox = Al Qaeda?!?!
Who woulda thunk it?
June 6th, 2007 at 2:42 pmThe candidates have also refused to meet in some guy's basement this weekend. I guess they're scared of Pictionary.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:42 pmTerrorists=Fox?????
Obviously!!
June 6th, 2007 at 2:43 pmMy God, Ailes just compared Fox News to Al Qaeda, HILARIOUS!
June 6th, 2007 at 2:43 pm"The issue, of course, isn’t that presidential candidates — including Hillary Clinton, Chris Dodd, John Edwards, Barack Obama, Bill Richardson — are afraid of appearing on Fox"
That is exactly what hte issue is.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pmFaux news can't even get the weather right, right, right?
June 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pmDamn...4 of the first 6 commenters said what I was going to say after I read the story!! Great minds must detest Faux alike?
June 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pmHe is right. If they can't face a dabate monorated by someone that is not going to ask nice questions, they don't need to run this country.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pmIf this is the FACE of FOX, he's right, I can't stomach it.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:45 pmSooo - Fox news equals Al Qaeda ? OK.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:45 pmthey are all scared to death of a tough question. pussies.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:46 pmGood lord, does this idiot realize what he's saying?
HA HA!
June 6th, 2007 at 2:46 pmFox has run good debates with the dems in the past, but the pressure from the far-left is making it rather hard for another Fox/dem debate to happen again.
In case it's not been noticed, Fox has a large audience of "undecideds" in it's demo. It's not wise to avoid making the dem case to these people.
It also makes dems look wimpy to avoid Fox. Not smart.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:47 pmFox News "We're not as bad as Al Qeada, but we're close."
June 6th, 2007 at 2:48 pmct
they are all scared to death of a tough question. pussies.
Not at all, they'll just call it a hypothetical and refuse to answer it, just like Sunday night.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:48 pmHe is right. If they can’t face a dabate monorated by someone that is not going to ask nice questions, they don’t need to run this country.
Comment by Kevin — June 6, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
'Cause we know the current White House Press Corps only asks the very toughest questions of the current administration, right?
June 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pmCandidates that can't legitimize my propaganda outlet can't expect that they'll be treated with any respect by my propaganda outlet (whether they appear for this debate or not).
Roger Ailes went on further to say: "Bring me Solo and the Wookiee. They will all suffer for this outrage."
June 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pmhttp://www.someguywithawebsite.com/cartoons/2007/070604_basement.html
June 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pmFunny premise, but not much of an artist. Which one is Biden and which one is Paul?
With any kind of luck those rough-and-tumble candidates that are willing to be part of a fox broadcast will blast the hell out of fox . . . 'just like Al Qaeda would'
June 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pmBoycotting FOX News is the best thing the Democratic candidates have done so far in this election cycle.
Kucinich should join them in solidarity.
We've already seen Vulf Bleatzer act like a total a$$hole, taking up more microphone time than two of the Democratic candidates combined!
They could hardly get a word in edgewize for all his bullcr@p.
FOX News is NOT a legitimate news organization and the Democrats are wise to ignore them entirely.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pmSomebody give Jabba the Hutt another donut.
With any luck, he will fall over dead.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:50 pmRUCerious and others: Take that meme and run with it -FOX = Al Qaeda. Seriously, they are doing about as much harm to the country over the long term by keeping the populaton misinformed.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:51 pmgotta love it when they step into it like this don't you?
June 6th, 2007 at 2:51 pmI think Jabba the Hutt has been to Pizza Hut too much lately.
He's about a grbreadstick away from a massive coronary.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:51 pmdon't worry too much. you can see it is about to squirt. it's family will fight and fight for control and ruin it for everyone.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:52 pmso we only have to deal with his calling anyone other than his own type a traitor. we all have different views of what treason means.
The real pussies are all those Republiqueers in the West Wing.
And Trudi Giuliani. Jeez, what a pussy. He knows his bra size.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:52 pmwhat's monorated mean?....
*snicker*
June 6th, 2007 at 2:52 pmergo, Fox = terrorists
Comment by Marge N. Overa — June 6, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
Fox = Al Qaeda?!?!
Who woulda thunk it?
Comment by geoman77 — June 6, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
Now that's a really unfair generalization. I've read a lot of speeches by UBL and al-Qa'ida and despite their overzealous religious ideology, they actually do have a clue of what's going on in the world. Comparing them to Fox is a pretty low blow...
June 6th, 2007 at 2:53 pmThe Republican candidates are afraid to be in a debate run by the League of Women Voters. I guess they're scarier than Al Qaeda.
The Democrats should be prepared to debate on Fox after the Republicans have their debates run by Sam Seder and Keith Olbermann. And not a moment before.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:54 pmDemocratic candidates need to say straight up that they will not extend an aura of legitimacy to a propaganda network.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:55 pmwhat’s "monorated" mean?….
*snicker*
Comment by trueblue
An approval rating of 1 ?
June 6th, 2007 at 2:55 pmIt's comforting to know that Roger Ailes embraces the Bill O'Reilly school of bluster. If someone refuses to subject himself to being used as propaganda, then he's obviously "afraid" to "face someone tough".
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What a bunch of tools.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:55 pmSome guys just fit the image of the Fat-Cat Corporate Jet Conservative.
Ailes, Limbaugh, Cheney....feel free to add to the list
June 6th, 2007 at 2:56 pmMr. Ailes' tirade is about his fear that others may follow suit and render irrelevant Fox News in all its works.
Mr. Ailes' claims, like Mr. Bush's, are not about al Qaeda or courage. They are about his hopes that we'll confuse his 6 mm with 6 inches of responsible broadcast journalism. Mr. Ailes is showing fear for his job, fear for his ratings, and fear that others will begin to see that his empire and those he supinely supports are nothing but divisive and harmful bags of wind.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:56 pmIt also makes dems look wimpy to avoid Fox. Not smart.
Comment by Toliver
Do Cheney and Bush look "whimpy" for not going on every other MSM outlet do do interviews except Fox? Just asking.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:56 pmRoger has a point. Dems, used to the softballs from the "usual suspects" and co-conspirators in the MSM, have a difficult time explaining to the American people they are concerned enough about national defense to actually defend the U.S. Unfortunately, 90% of contemporary Dems are soft on security and terrorism issues - but this is not surprising when one considers the standard bearers the Donk/Dove Party has relied on to carry their message....George McGovern, John Kerry, Jimmy Carter and the Bill Clinton - who viewed terrorism primarily as a "legal issue". It's pretty tough for a dove to evolve into an eagle.....
June 6th, 2007 at 2:57 pmFox News anchor Bill O’Reilly has compared people who oppose participating in Fox News’ presidential debates to Nazis, claiming they “lie, distort, defame, all the time†using “propaganda techniques perfected by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi minister of information.†Fellow Fox News anchor Mort Kondracke claimed they are “not about free speech†and guilty of “junior grade Stalinism.â€
Classic Goebbels tactic...preemptively and loudly accuse the opposition of the misdeeds you yourself are guilty of...then, when the opposition states (quite correctly) that you are the one guilty of the misdeeds you are accusing them of, they come off as petty, derivative, and false.
The neocons have done their homework...have we?
June 6th, 2007 at 2:57 pm"Roger Ailes went on further to say: “Bring me Solo and the Wookiee. They will all suffer for this outrage.â€
Comment by kelso"
hahahaha.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:58 pmIt's time to shut FOX news network down, revoke their broadcast license, force them into bankruptcy, and deport Rupert Murdoch back to Australia.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:58 pmJabba The Hutt runs FOX News.
No wonder they suck.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:58 pm"Ailes, Limbaugh, Cheney….feel free to add to the list...
Rove, of course, Kyle Sampson in a few more years, Denny Hastert...
June 6th, 2007 at 2:58 pmlol kelso
June 6th, 2007 at 2:59 pma Pussy is a Liberal pissing his pants as his head is being sawed off while trying to teach a terrorist peace . what are you guys gonna do when what is over there is here where military action is outlawed except when a Democrat President uses them to kill his Countries Citizens .
June 6th, 2007 at 2:59 pmWhy are most CEOs corpulent fat slobs who look like they cook and eat employees?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:02 pmThese people certainly have an exaggerates sense of their self worth, don't they.
"they are all scared to death of a tough question. pussies."
Yeah, tough questions like asking a very complex question and then saying "now, this is a 'yes or no' question". Or, something like "When did you stop beating your wife". And then there's always the "raise your hand if you agree with this statement"....oh wait, Wolf Blitzer already stole than one.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:02 pmI knew FUX was a terrorist network!
June 6th, 2007 at 3:02 pmRupert Murdoch at the World Economic Forum earlier this year:
Murdoch was asked if News Corp. had managed to shape the agenda on the war in Iraq. His answer?
“No, I don’t think so. We tried.†Asked by Rose for further comment, he said: “We basically supported the Bush policy in the Middle East..."
Even conservatives acknowledge that Fox leans right. And its dishonesty and lack of journalistic ethics is easily proven.
It would be stupid for Democrats to go on Faux news, legitimize it as a news source, and give control of the content to people who have a demonstrated desire to tear them down. Stupid.
And the CBC is even more moronic to not cancel the debate in the light of this week's John Conyers-as-Wiliam Jefferson little teleplay.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:03 pm...this bloviating TREASONOUS tub of pig sh*t...
...is just whining because the Democrats...
...won't legitimize his (and his right wing propaganda network's)...
...TREASON...
...may ALL of his kind...
...disappear...
June 6th, 2007 at 3:04 pmSo the Dems shouldn't get there message out to people that don't agree with them?????? Do they have a message? Can they answer hard questions? Do you folks know anything about the 10th Amendment?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:05 pmHere go the trolls again, trying to hijack the topic.
Topic is: Roger Ailes, aka Jabba The Hutt.
Does he eat employees for lunch?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:05 pm"It’s time to shut FOX news network down, revoke their broadcast license, force them into bankruptcy, and deport Rupert Murdoch back to Australia."
Comment by Jay Randal
**Jay, Did you think this idea up all by yourself, or did Hugo Chavez give you a few pointers?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:07 pmOT,
From FDL:
June 6th, 2007 at 3:07 pmSen. Leahy Needs Our Help
Where do they find these wackos? I remember when Jeff Gannon threw softball questions at George.
Besides, Fox is supposed to host the debate not take part in it , Fair and balanced is such a scam. Just like these trolls here. They scream about liberal media then don't even recognize it's Aisles who is the neo-liberal monarch these followers of old fart logic parrot here today.
Aisles has been a republican political hack for a long time that realized his 28% can only win thru racist controversial tv and neverending smear tactics cloaking itself with fair and balanced banner.
National Enquirer TV is why Democrats don't want to be seen on it. The Jerry Springer News Channel..
June 6th, 2007 at 3:07 pmIt is quite reasonable for the Democrats to reject FOX News for their debates. And proper.
The Congressional Black Caucus is doing the wrong thing by getting in bed with FOX News.
FOX News has a proven hostility to Democrats and the left in general. They are not a legitimate news organization and are incapable of running a debate without injecting their anti-Democratic bias.
The CBC needs to do the right thing and dump FOX News.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:07 pmIf Democratic candidates want to make their points to the members of the Faux "News" audience, they can attempt to that without having their words filtered and "translated" by Faux. Faux "News" has illegitimized itself, and thus, earns a no-confidence vote from the Democratic candidates.
Citizens who truly care about the message and positions of Democratic candidates (whether they are Democrats, Republicans or Independents) will make the effort to find the debates and position statements via any of the myriad of other, credible news outlets. Those who would not approach these candidates with an open mind won't bother to switch their channels from Faux. Thus, Democrats can afford to ignore this partisan, propoganda channel.
It has nothing to do with fear, except that all of us, voters and candidates alike, should fear the damage continually done by Faux "News" to the truth. They have "terrorized" the truth-finding and reporting profession, blasting away at responsible, honorable journalistic practices with their right-wing favoritism.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:09 pmagain with the spurious Nazi comparisons! when will these Brown Shirts learn???
it's not that they can't face Fox (as if you were formidable), it's that they don't want to be associated with the BS you spread over the airwaves... just like I'd refuse to attend a dinner hosted by the KKK, the candidates don't want to lend any legitimacy to your organization...
June 6th, 2007 at 3:09 pmOnly a troll would back a Alfred Hitchcock here and his insane science fiction reality he envisions.
The cuckoo trolls have landed and their leader is Alfred Hitchcock.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:09 pmFaux has ZERO credibility - period. It is blocked at my house - can't even see that trash as I channel surf.
Hating the repukian propaganda mafia daily
Remember people this is national IGNORE THE TROLLS DAY
June 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pmIt’s pretty tough for a dove to evolve into an eagle…..
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Uh, don't you mean "for a dove to get intelligently designed into an eagle?"
June 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pmterrorist and Liberals think that Bush is the Enemy . Listen up Liberals your Enemies Enemy is your Friend
June 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pmJaba does not get it, it is not that the dems do not want to be on FOX, the issue is they want to be on real new outlet, not the infotainment crap fest that is FOX NEWS...
Fact is you can get more relevant news from 30 mins of Cartoon Network than FOX NEWS
June 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pmKevin,
June 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pmSo you can't tell me what your own word, "monorated" means? And it's debate, not dabate.... and I don't know where to begin with post#51.
#24 Jimbo,
June 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pmI would, but al Qaeda would probably issue a fatwah on my ass for the disrespectful action.
PS. Praise Allah!
Watch "Outfoxed:Rupoert Murdoch's War on Journalism". Ailes in on KKKarl Rove's speed dial for their daily talking points meeting. This asshole is a Reichwing Wonk from the Reagan administration.
No serious candidate should ever submit themselves to FAUX Noise Channel.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:11 pm#38 vv
The point is that none of the other networks are hardwired into the RNC or any other political party. Fox is. Fox is extremely partisan, works in concert with the White House, the GOP leaders in Congress, and the RNC. And, they just flat-out lie their asses off.
I think it's interesting that Roger Ailes is comparing Fox Noise to al Qaeda. But, I don't think the Dems should let al Qaeda host their debates, either.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:11 pmProgressives like Fat Papa and Jay R. have no sense of humour!! Threatened, you wish to shut down media opposition....Conservatives uses your sites and media as sources of amusement and as an excellent tool to keep up to date with the looney tunes spinning in our domestic enemies collective brains.....
June 6th, 2007 at 3:12 pm*Jay, Did you think this idea up all by yourself, or did Hugo Chavez give you a few pointers?
Comment by valiant venus
Aisles wants to help Murdoch, a Queen loving liberal, subjugate Americas Jesus under the crown of liberal British Monarchy
June 6th, 2007 at 3:12 pmDems, used to the softballs from the “usual suspects†and co-conspirators in the MSM, have a difficult time explaining to the American people they are concerned enough about national defense to actually defend the U.S. Unfortunately, 90% of contemporary Dems are soft on security and terrorism issues - but this is not surprising when one considers the standard bearers the Donk/Dove Party has relied on to carry their message….George McGovern, John Kerry, Jimmy Carter and the Bill Clinton - who viewed terrorism primarily as a “legal issueâ€. It’s pretty tough for a dove to evolve into an eagle…..
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Well typed, Valiant Anus. Unfortunately, it's a crock of sh!t, but it almost sounds as if you've thought it through. Almost.
Unfortunately, the "softballs" from the MSM are only in your mind, and the "standard bearers" that you cite go back to the 70s. If you want to go back even further, Democrats led the nation during WWII, remember that? More recently, John Kerry actually fought in Vietnam, unlike the bulk of the BushCo team, and Bill Clinton prosecuted successful military campaigns as Commander-in-Chief.
And on top of that, given the successes in stopping terrorist plots both dangerous and absurd around the world in the last few years, and the disaster of the al-Qaeada Recruiting project we have going on in Iraq, the notion that fighting terrorism is better left to police work than armed conflict seems pretty effing wise.
But you are right about the difficulty of changing a dove to a hawk. it also works the other way. Which is why you can't really depend on any hawkish Republicans to be able to deliver peace. They simply don't believe in it.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:12 pm45, what are you talking about...you actually sound crazy.
38. Just because you pull stats out of your ass (90% of Dems are soft on terriorism) doesn't make it so...until you can prove that stat, don't bother posting anymore...
June 6th, 2007 at 3:13 pmI'm sorry, what obligation do any of the presidential candidates have to appear on Fox news? Hmm, to be called a pussy from a big fat guy, oooooh, now that's real motivation. Looks like Roger has faced too many cheesburgers......
June 6th, 2007 at 3:13 pm"So the Dems shouldn’t get there message out to people that don’t agree with them??????"
they should and they will, just not on fox. watch the other debates if you're concerned.
"Can they answer hard questions?"
yes, they can. watch the debates.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:13 pmComment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Something seriously wrong with a reichwingnut female. Dark past that should be discussed with professionals.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:13 pmUh, don’t you mean “for a dove to get intelligently designed into an eagle?â€
Comment by toasterhead
I almost got Pepsi all over my keyboard!
June 6th, 2007 at 3:14 pmLMAO
terrorist and Liberals think that Bush is the Enemy . Listen up Liberals your Enemies Enemy is your Friend
Comment by Harry Truman — June 6, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
Terrorists don't think Bush is the enemy. They love Bush. He's the best recruiting tool they've ever had.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:15 pm"Uh, don’t you mean “for a dove to get intelligently designed into an eagle?â€"
hahahahahaha.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:15 pmFox News anchor Bill O’Reilly has compared people who oppose participating in Fox News’ presidential debates to Nazis, claiming they “lie, distort, defame, all the time†using “propaganda techniques perfected by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi minister of information.â€
So, will the Dems be rounding up right-wing assclowns like O'Reilly and Ailes, and stuffing them into the gas chambers any time soon? This I gotta see.
Oh, the poor persecuted lying sacks of shit.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:16 pmI bet if Alfred "Aisles" Hitchcock turned around we would see murdochs arm up his arse operating the ventriliquist dummies mouth.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:16 pmsince the dems aren't having a debate on the g4 network, they must be afraid of aspiring ninjas and 'cops' reruns.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:16 pmTrueblue - Thanks for the firedoglake link!! Just MORE evidence Progs care more about our enemies than national security....Keep up the good work!!
June 6th, 2007 at 3:16 pmI KNEW that Foxnews was AL QAEDA!!!
WHY does Al Queda HATE America?
Ummm....
I mean...
I can't RECALL.... (yeah, THAT'S it!!)
June 6th, 2007 at 3:17 pmCheney won't do O'Reilly, but he has done interviews with other networks, as has Bush.
What we're talking about here is POTUS debates. This is a poor stance to take for the dems.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:17 pmHe is right. If they can’t face a dabate monorated by someone that is not going to ask nice questions, they don’t need to run this country.
Comment by Kevin — June 6, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
So now Fox News is the measuring stick that Democratic candidates must face in order for America to make an informed selection in the 2008 elections?
You are so full of shit.
You know, I find it incredibly hard to take Fox News seriously when John Gibson admits to surfing the Internet for news stories for his show and invites Danny Bonaduce ("Danny" from The Partridge Family) on the show to discuss why there are pictures of Danny on the net showing him without a shirt.
And I won't even get into the lies and distortions that flow from Bill O's mouth.
And let's not forget the pathetic apology that Fox offered after showing video footage of Rep. John Conyers when they reported on the charges against Rep. William Jefferson. In their first "apology" they didn't bother to point out that they mistakenly showed images of Conyers...they just mentiond that they showed the "wrong video." I see from the latest post on TP that Fox has made a second attempt at an apology.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:19 pmHey TP, I think they can speak for themselves. Nice try with the legitimize angle. Hate to bust the news, FOX News is number one across the board in cable which makes them uber-legitimate as far as the others are concerned. So MSN is legitimate because they lean left? Give me a break. Democrat candidates want to boycott FOX in hopes that they go away and stop exposing the comedy of their positions. TP isn't a legitimate news source but it doesn't stop me from coming on and straightening out the conspiracist-laden rantings you guys conjure up. Show some stones!!!! Oh yeah....sorry....libs haven't found those since JFK at the Cuban Missile Crisis.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:19 pmFOX News has a proven hostility to Democrats and the left in general. They are not a legitimate news organization and are incapable of running a debate without injecting their anti-Democratic bias.
Comment by Emerald — June 6, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
If the Dems message was so good and right. Why does it matter if they get asked questions that would or wouldn’t point that out? My guess is that the message just can't stand up to good questioning. And if it can't in a debate it won’t in practice.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:19 pm#67 vv
Conservatives uses your sites and media as sources of amusement and as an excellent tool to keep up to date with the looney tunes spinning in our domestic enemies collective brains…..
And that's why we love you trolls so much. We get to observe your over-the-top right-wing nuttiness without having to go to the right-wing blogs. It's sort of like room service.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:19 pmMy whole problem with not going on FNC is that I watched all the debates on both sides, and FNC asked the Repubs the toughest questions out of all their debates. Hume and Wallace were vicious in their questioning.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:20 pmSo by Ailes' retarded logic - Fox News is Al Qaeda? I will say they are both extremist in their propaganda...
June 6th, 2007 at 3:20 pmI was also wondering wtf "dabate monorated" (#10) meant? Nice questions? How about "How many 737s can you land on those big, broad shoulders of yours?" and "Some say you give great soundbite. Tell us all about it!"
Romney is exposing all the wingnutz as the closet homos they are. Just come out already!
These mouthbreathers just do it to themselves, don't they? You can't write shit that good.....
and WTF is that hairy numbnutz (#45) babbling about? A pussy is a wingnut who is here trolling and not over in Iraq fighting his/her pet war.
Ha ha ha....gold Jerry......GOLD!
June 6th, 2007 at 3:22 pmToliver how so?
They (individually and collectively) have decided that their message would be better suited coming from a respected source. They have decided that Fox News would not lend creditability to their campaign. The market has spoken. The real issue is that Fox is now scared that others will no longer see it as a credible news source.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:22 pmConservatives uses your sites and media as sources of amusement and as an excellent tool to keep up to date with the looney tunes spinning in our domestic enemies collective brains…..
Comment by valiant venus
You wish. The left has been kicking the neo-cons and the Gops ass all over the tubes for quite a while now. I know it gets depressing after a while with all the Haggards, And Foleys, And Abramoffs and Delays, Libby etc etc. Set back after setback for the value voters.
Idon't blame you for ignroing reality V V. I really don't, It's tough goiing from faux eagles to an ugly group of lice infested buzzards.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:22 pmWell valiant venus > how is your ficticious hubby doing and your non-children? Must be hot in San Diego, California, so you are on the TP threads doing your part to foist Bush crap on us posters. Rupert Mordoch is an ugly disgusting creep, not an American citizen, so we have a right to deport his butt back to Australia.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:24 pmFox 'news' is simply the propaganda wing of BushCo and the Republican party, it's no surprise that they say these things.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:24 pm#66 - "The point is that none of the other networks are hardwired into the RNC or any other political party. Fox is. Fox is extremely partisan, works in concert with the White House, the GOP leaders in Congress, and the RNC. And, they just flat-out lie their asses off." Chimpeach
**Instead of the mindless typing...do some research. Look into the political backgrounds of Chris Mattews, Jeff Greenfield, Al Hunt, Tim Russert, Nina Totenberg, Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher, Georgie Stephanopolous, etc. etc etc. etc.......The spin of the Left is not new - Walter Cronkite, and Dan Rather certainly blew any cover or fairness they once had......
Thanks for playing..........
June 6th, 2007 at 3:25 pmAnd if it can’t in a debate it won’t in practice.
Comment by Kevin
FOX doesn't ask questions -- they act like buffoons and won't stop their chimpering and chatterinf long enough for anygood to come from a debate. I lose interest in every single one of FOX interviews because the fairly unbalanced talking head wont shut the feck up long enough for anyone to respond to the idiotic Archie Bunker reporters idiotic statements.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:28 pm#82 Toliver
Cheney won’t do O’Reilly, but he has done interviews with other networks, as has Bush.
What we’re talking about here is POTUS debates. This is a poor stance to take for the dems.
No, actually it's a very useful comparison. Cheney and Bush and even Rice are very careful about who they allow to interview them and under what circumstances. They're frightened of being asked a tough question without getting to see it in advance and prepare for it. Bush and Cheney have always kept inside their protective bubbles. They actually shield Bush from having to see any protesters or protest signs that might hurt his feelings. His audiences have always been carefully screened. They throw people out of his town hall meetings just for having objectionable bumper stickers on their cars.
No wonder he's afraid to go after bin Laden.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:28 pmCut to the Democratic debate on Fox:
O'RiledUp - Question for Mrs Clinton:
What did you say to your hubby when you walked in on him getting his knob polished by that intern?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:29 pm"This is a poor stance to take for the dems."
why is it that non-dems all seem to say that? they'll debate where they want. this is after all, america. the dems can choose which networks will sponsor each debate.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:29 pmFOX NEWS ISN'T REAL NEWS?
Anyone who thinks that any news source out there is unbiased is fooling themselves. You have been brainwashed by liberal media outlets to believe that their news is the "right" news ... that it is balanced and lacking expression of political beliefs or opinions.
Sorry .. but that is flat out wrong. It is impossible to rid the media of political bias. Media is not just about how you say something but what you choose to talk about. The New York Times putting the Muslim JFK plot on the 37th page—liberal media bias. Not acknowledging the fact that the conspirators were Muslim in their on-line digest, liberal media bias.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:29 pmActually, if they back down from their conviction that Fox is just a bunch of hacks with no credibility then they surely won't be able to handle the tough decisions that will come with little political reward as POTUS.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:29 pmThe spin of the Left is not new - Walter Cronkite, and Dan Rather certainly blew any cover or fairness they once had……Thanks for playing……….
Comment by valiant venus
Thats called centrism Vapid Clenis.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:30 pmI remember when Jeff Gannon threw softball questions at George.
Comment by Aisle is a hack
Is that a metaphor for sperm?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:30 pm"My guess is that the message just can’t stand up to good questioning. And if it can’t in a debate it won’t in practice."
BWWAAAAHHHAAAAAA
You mean like Bush having questions screened?
You mean like Bush stammering his way through those screened questions?
You mean like Bush Admin officials appearing nearly solely on Fox opinion shows?
It seems your statement only makes sense if it's directed towards the republicans. LOL
June 6th, 2007 at 3:31 pmEric, what written or otherwise understood oath of loyalty or contract compels ANY candidate to appear on any news vehicle, let alone Fox? Interesting that you forgot to mention that it's a choice thing. Isn't that what conservatives are about, choice and the consequences that go with that freedom?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:32 pmAiles is right that Democrats who can't face Fox can't face Al Qaeda. Just to be fair and balanced, the Democrats should refuse to attend Al Qaeda sponsored debates too.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:32 pmI would think the Dems would want to go on Fox to reveal Fox as a partisan mouthpiece (if that's what they are) -- not run away and hide. But then again, that's what wimps do. When the going gets tough, run for it!
The Repubs didn't refuse to participate on a debate on CNN -- even though CNN is quite liberal in its coverage.
Dems = (insert favorite invertebrate here)
June 6th, 2007 at 3:33 pmLMAO, as If Aisles or Vannity and Culled, Flush Dimbulb, Gwynn Blech, MAnne Coldturd, Filth O'Lielly or any of these perennial pedantic pinheads will ever battle or face Al Qaeda. They would be the first one out the doors after they finally stopped slipping and sliding in the pools of urine they leaked.
Aisles would need three pairs of depends to run away from Al Qaeda.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:34 pmMedia is not just about how you say something but what you choose to talk about. The New York Times putting the Muslim JFK plot on the 37th page—liberal media bias. Not acknowledging the fact that the conspirators were Muslim in their on-line digest, liberal media bias.
Comment by Harry Truman — June 6, 2007 @ 3:29 pm
So what you're saying is that anything less than blatant Islamophobia and fearmongering is "liberal media bias?"
Sounds good to me.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:34 pm#94
Yes instead of debating each issue on its merits lets label everyone that we disagree with left. Then whatever they say we label as spin and ignore.
I can't wait until the Republican start telling the rest of us what we can and can't say. Oh wait you already do that by calling everything you disagree with unpatriotic.
How very American of you.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:35 pmHarry Truman,
Anyone who thinks that any news source out there is unbiased is fooling themselves. You have been brainwashed by 'conservative' media outlets to believe that their news is the “right†news … that it is balanced and lacking expression of political beliefs or opinions.
Hope you caught that change.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:36 pmDems = (insert favorite invertebrate here)
Comment by Cynicon Implant — June 6, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
Jellyfish.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:36 pmIt’s pretty tough for a dove to evolve into an eagle…..
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Uh, don’t you mean “for a dove to get intelligently designed into an eagle?â€
Comment by toasterhead
Good one toasterhead.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmHey Cynicon Implant, why should Republicans refuse to go on frequently friendly CNN? I notice they refused Air America's invitation.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmOnce again HTruman you're a hack...the Muslim JFK plot appeared on the front page, but you get your news from one source, O'Reilly. Most news is slanted, thats why most people read two or more newspapers, watch two or three news programs, go to two or more blogs. If you get your news from only one source, that half of the population in the US thinks is *strongly* biased one way...then what you're getting isn't news, is it?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pm"The New York Times putting the Muslim JFK plot on the 37th page—liberal media bias."
LOL Harry Truman says he knows all media is biased and to prove it he pulls this lie from Bill O's ass. What a moron.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmBut then again, that’s what wimps do. When the going gets tough, run for it!
Comment by Cynicon Implant
Like Bush not answering questions to European media in Cezh Republic?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmOff topic, but interesting...
Latest 3 USA Yesterday / Galloping Polls
----------------------Dates--- App Dis Duh
USA Today/Gallup 6/1-3/07 32 62 6
USA Today/Gallup 5/4-6/07 34 63 3
USA Today/Gallup 4/13-15/07 36 60 4
Down, swirling down the terlet goes the chymps approval ratings.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmEach month he loses two percent in approval, his only hope is that the duhs continue to climb.
Cynicon and Kevin
Repubs = (Insert favorite single celled organism here)
June 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmJuan C why don't you ever have any serious adult dialog ? With you its always that same childish juvenile nonsense.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:38 pm"Anyone who thinks that any news source out there is unbiased is fooling themselves."
your understanding of journalism is right up fox's alley.
"The New York Times putting the Muslim JFK plot on the 37th page—liberal media bias."
the republican mayor of nyc wants you to 'get a life.' he's not afraid of a homeless carribean man with no connection to al qaeda, or as roger ailes calls it, fox news.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:38 pmCynicon Implant,
"even though CNN is quite liberal in its coverage. "
This is the great thing about the great "LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS!!!"
You guys always cry foul about it, but you have no way to back up the assertion. Do you have proof that CNN prefers a liberal slant on it's presentation of the news. Or are you just upset that , as usual, the facts have that very unfortunate liberal slant.
Just because the facts aren't in your favor, doesn't mean the media is biased against you.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:40 pmTosterhead , do you know how to define Phobia ? if so define it , if you cannot google it. but remember everything that you google they keep a record of for 2 yrs.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:40 pm#69 - "Unfortunately, the “softballs†from the MSM are only in your mind, and the “standard bearers†that you cite go back to the 70s."
You might have missed Big Mouth Jimmy Carter and his recent promouncements. Unfortunately, as easy to overlook the mindless collaborator, Jimmy C. - Al Jezeera did not
"If you want to go back even further, Democrats led the nation during WWII, remember that?"
What part of the term "contemporary Dem" confused you?? The Dem Party has NOT had a President concerned with strong National Defense since JFK. Period.
"More recently, John Kerry actually fought in Vietnam, unlike the bulk of the BushCo team,..."
......and returning home, Kerry disgraced his military brothers in Congressional hearings - the self-serving weasel. Honestly, I can't remember if his Congressional performance was before or after he threw (or didn't throw) his medals/ ribbons over the White House fence
"....and Bill Clinton prosecuted successful military campaigns as Commander-in-Chief."
Agreed, no one can destroy an aspirin factory better than Bill Clinton (or ignore an attack on the USS Cole). And those missiles launched against Al Qeada certainly made a strong impression on BinLaden.
As for the Bosnian campaign - he WAS correct (and I have said so numerous times.....and because it was at the negligent Euros doorstep, they EVEN pitched in.....
June 6th, 2007 at 3:40 pmMedia is not just about how you say something but what you choose to talk about. The New York Times putting the Muslim JFK plot on the 37th page—liberal media bias. Not acknowledging the fact that the conspirators were Muslim in their on-line digest, liberal media bias.
Comment by Harry Truman —
Harry,
What a real journalist thinks about Fox
And, the NYT DID run the story on page one; right under the fold.
Try again.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:40 pmbloomburg is not a republican he is a RINO
June 6th, 2007 at 3:41 pmHmmm... I wonder what "propaganda techniques" he's talking about...
Now who does that sound like?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:41 pmWith you its always that same childish juvenile nonsense.
Comment by Harry Truman
Dont you have some japanese kids to nuke?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:42 pmOh please, the Repubs are nothing but spiracle (exoskeleton here_____) breathing cockroaches. Your nervious systems don't run down your back cowards, it runs down your yellow bellies. Shine a light on a cockroach or republican and they react the same way. They run for the cover of darkness!
June 6th, 2007 at 3:43 pmFunny how the trolls come out in force to defend Fox News' legitimacy yet the are absent on other topics such as the Turkish Surge.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:43 pm#91 - JayR. - Still wanting to shut down Fox News?? Hugo would be SOOO proud!!!
June 6th, 2007 at 3:43 pmCrump's Brother of course there is liberal bias you fool thats why the jfk story was on page 37 of the NYT and why Dan Rather is still at CBS . he is soooo good at making up the News : )
June 6th, 2007 at 3:44 pmFox says boo and we aren't jumping with fear anymore.
It's a great message to this country that candidates won't aide Fox with their slanted self interests.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:44 pmvaliant venus so bill Clinton was right in the bosnian campaign ? Right , we gotta protect those Peaceful Muslims Wink !
June 6th, 2007 at 3:46 pmand returning home, Kerry disgraced his military brothers in Congressional hearings - the self-serving weasel.
George Bush disgraced the guard by signing up for s six year contract with America (sound familiar? heh.) and only fulfille about 4 years. George did not fulfill his Patriotic contract with America. But went on to Harvard and hypocritically championed the Vietnam war..
What a pal, what a guy to leave his fellow troops behind serving their country while George was partying in college.
HEY V V? Is Kerry or George running for office? *rolls eyes*
June 6th, 2007 at 3:47 pmIt's a matter of definition. Wingnuts define "liberal media bias" as "insufficient right wing propaganda." Anyone who criticizes the current administration, criticizes any Republicans, suggests that right wing Christian organizations are in error . . . all are guilty of "liberal bias".
June 6th, 2007 at 3:48 pm#126 Juan,
Wow. That was some slap-back.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:48 pmValiant- you follow the fascist side, suck up the spittle and lick the boots you love so much and I'll stay with the remaining part of the media that sometimes questions and offers opinions. Your keyhole perspective is your view from a prison you don't even see. Dostoyevsky could have written a great story about your happily myopic mind.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:48 pmYes valiant venus, I want to see FOX news shut down, but has nothing to do with Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. FOX is a degenerate propaganda outfit that spews lies, and distortions, so that is why FOX's broadcasting license must be revoked.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:49 pmActually, if they back down from their conviction that Fox is just a bunch of hacks with no credibility then they surely won’t be able to handle the tough decisions that will come with little political reward as POTUS.
Comment by ben
Exactly, if the Dems debate on Fox they alienate their base. And waste their time. I wouldn't watch Fox even if all the debates were on Fox. Watching Fox News is like reading The National Enquirer, they both kill brain cells.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:49 pmTosterhead , do you know how to define Phobia ? if so define it , if you cannot google it. but remember everything that you google they keep a record of for 2 yrs.
Comment by Harry Truman — June 6, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
Phobia: n. an uncontrollable, irrational, and persistent fear of a specific object, situation, or activity.
Hmm - I see your point. "Islamophobia" may not truly fit this definition. While it's certainly irrational and persistent, it is also most definitely controllable. Fox and the other manipulators on the right have controlled it - and used it as an instrument of control - for far too long. It's high time for rational and sensible people to reverse this trend before it gets us into even more pointless wars on abstract concepts.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:50 pmStill wanting to shut down Fox News?? Hugo would be SOOO proud!!!
Comment by valiant venus
Wrong. You can watch Fox News in Venezuela. If you are gonna troll, get some facts.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:50 pmAnd on top of that, given the successes in stopping terrorist plots both dangerous and absurd around the world in the last few years, and the disaster of the al-Qaeada Recruiting project we have going on in Iraq, the notion that fighting terrorism is better left to police work than armed conflict seems pretty effing wise.
Comment by KRank — June 6, 2007 @ 3:12 pm
Let us not forget that Bush himself told us that we cannot win the "war" on terror the way a conventional war can be won. He went on to say something about the fact that we will not be seeing any signing ceremonies where the terrorists surrender.
Let's see...a conventional war is fought with troops and machinery until the enemy is militarily defeated, right? So if the "war" on terror can't be won in this manner, that leaves, what, police work?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:50 pm#91 - JayR. - Still wanting to shut down Fox News?? Hugo would be SOOO proud!!!
Comment by valiant venus
I never said I wanted to shut FOX news down. I said they are too partial to host a debate. The FOX Fair and Balanced banner means about as much as Georges Mission Accomplished one does.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:50 pmHarry Truman,
"Crump’s Brother of course there is liberal bias you fool thats why the jfk story was on page 37 of the NYT and why Dan Rather is still at CBS . he is soooo good at making up the News"
Fool huh? How childish. Can't come up with anything more degrading. That's usually a strength of many of the righties that come one here to spout two bit RNC talking points.
So you surmise that since a story, which was led on the front page of the NYT, and because Dan Rather still pulls a check from CBS, that means there is a liberal bias? These are facts how? You have no empirical evidence.
You guys think that because the news doesn't favor your viewpoint, that must mean there is a liberal conspiracy behind the delivery of said news. Just because the facts aren't in your favor, doesn't mean that there is a liberal slant.
And you guys think we are the moonbats.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:51 pmJPV - I know this will be VERY difficult for you to understand - nobody LIKES war. Unfortunately, the Left doesn't value anything enough to defend and preserve it. This nation was born of war, was kept together through Civil War and will be defended by war with our most deadly, determined and patient enemy yet. No thanks to the Left.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:51 pmWow. That was some slap-back.
Comment by trueblue
I apologize, true. But that´s what happened.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:51 pm3503 ...get the spin doctors out
June 6th, 2007 at 3:51 pmRichard Johnson - isn't he guy who takes money from celebs in exchange for putting their names in the gossip column? And I care about his opinion because . . . .?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:52 pmWouldn't it be better if the Democratic candidates just sent anonymous sources to the debate. Isn't that really all the Right needs to substantiate the truth? It's worked for the White House since the beginning. Ask Vernon Loeb, Brian Ross and Sue Schmidt. Their sources were anonymous and WRONG. But they stuck to their stories. So why bother with the real candidates?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:53 pm#94 vv
Instead of the mindless typing…do some research. Look into the political backgrounds of Chris Mattews, Jeff Greenfield, Al Hunt, Tim Russert, Nina Totenberg, Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher, Georgie Stephanopolous, etc. etc etc. etc…….The spin of the Left is not new - Walter Cronkite, and Dan Rather certainly blew any cover or fairness they once had……
Tell us a little about these "political backgrounds". If Chris Matthews is your idea of a left-wing sympathizer, boy is he doing a crappy job. He's been a lot more helpful to your side. He rarely challenges righties that lie on his show. Bill Maher doesn't have a news show and he's not on a news network. Jeff Greenfield is in the same boat as Matthews, much more helpful to you guys than he is to us. Al Hunt? I don't even know where to find him anymore. I haven't seen him in years. The last I heard, though, I think he could have been a lot harder on Bush, considering the way Georgie went into a drunken rage, spewing obscenities at him and wife Judy Woodruff in front of their 4 year old son, all because he didn't like what Hunt said about his dad's campaign. Russert? That's your idea of a lefty? Please get serious now. Stephanopoulos couldn't get anymore straight down the middle of the road if his life depended on it.
Olbermann--a welcome relief from the network news anchors who acquiesce to the right-wing spin machine. Cronkite--had the guts to say what was going on in Vietnam. Dan Rather--got the story right but used dubious evidence to support one small piece of it (dubious, as in alleged forgery but never proven to be).
Fox calls itself news, but it works hand-in-hand with the Republican party. That's not a wild guess. That's fact. Brit Hume was on the phone with Bill Frist trying to choreograph the Senate Republicans as they entered the Senate chamber so their entrance would appear as a backdrop for the opening of his show. It was the infamous Medicare bill signing and they wanted to tout it as a big victory for the GOP. Please enlighten us as to which other network news channel has a relationship like that with a political party.
Thanks for playing……….
One of us is playing. It ain't me.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:53 pmValiant Anus, I apologize. I guess when you included George McGovern in your list of "Democratic standard-bearers" I didn't realize you wante dto go back thirty-five to suppoirt your point but insist that I deal only with "contemporary" leaders. My bad for not noticing the uneven playing field and moveable goalposts.
i also liked how your overview of Clinton-era militray action extended only as far as a pair of surgical strikes directed at bin Laden (you remember HIM, don't you? The president doesn't) and didn't mention Bosnia. Strange that you wouldn't consider that conflict -- it drove several of your compatriots in Congress into quite a lather at the time, what with their demands for an "exit strategy" and threats to cut off funding...
But you acknowldege that Republicans are incapable of waging peace. Thanks for that at least.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:54 pmHarry Truman line 130...You have been caught in a lie. You my friend are a liar. Your pants may in fact be on fire, I don't know...most likely you aren't wearing any pants...but that is a lie, which means you are more concerned with getting your biased information out than with the true. Is that not correct? explain how the NYT times did not have the JFK plot on the front page?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:54 pmThanks for playing……….
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
Sorry VV but as usual you are playing with yourself. What do you trolls care about the Dems debates anyway? And you guys pretending you care if they look bad by not participating on Fox is laughable. What are you all on the Ailes/Murdoch payroll? I hope so, otherwise you just parrot all the shit you hear there for no reason.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:54 pmdoesn't make much sense to me that kind of remark. very weird.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:54 pmBased on the photo, it appears Mr. Ailes thinks "Al-Queda" is a type of pastry.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:54 pmHey Cynicon Implant, why should Republicans refuse to go on frequently friendly CNN? I notice they refused Air America’s invitation.
Comment by Eric Ferguson — June 6, 2007 @ 3:37 pm
Why would they? Nobody would hear it.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:55 pmthe repubs won't debate on vh-1 because they're afraid of old judas priest videos.
June 6th, 2007 at 3:56 pm"Yes valiant venus, I want to see FOX news shut down, but has nothing to do with Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. FOX is a degenerate propaganda outfit that spews lies, and distortions, so that is why FOX’s broadcasting license must be revoked." Comment by Jay Randal
Jay Randal - Hmmm...Let me guess.....you're not very familiar with the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, are you??
June 6th, 2007 at 3:57 pmPV - I know this will be VERY difficult for you to understand - nobody LIKES war. Unfortunately, the Left doesn’t value anything enough to defend and preserve it. This nation was born of war, was kept together through Civil War and will be defended by war with our most deadly, determined and patient enemy yet. No thanks to the Left.
Comment by valiant venus
Your historically inaccurate. The Democrats have been the war party, it was from the time of Mckinley to Bush Sr that the usually peaceful GOP began war. But even then, V V Bush Sr backed out of going into baghdad. He cut and Ran.
Osama is a freedom fighter of the right, and it is no thanks to the right that we have these terrorists today.
Now quit being such a dishonest political hack.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:00 pmThe Repubs didn’t refuse to participate on a debate on CNN — even though CNN is quite liberal in its coverage.
Comment by Cynicon Implant
You Fox News watchers are a bunch of idiots. You don't even know what the truth is anymore. I heard Fred Thompson won the debate on CNN ... because he's the only one who didn't sound like an ignorant nutjob.
Interesting Dems don't care where Repubs debate but you Repukes just have to bully Dems into doing things the way you want it done. Could you neocons take a couple of days off from your Fascism.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:00 pmShane - I could care less about the Dem debates EXCEPT they are an excellent method of catching up on much needed sleep! To be fair, I think the debates will be much more enlightening when the the field narrows...
Tooodles..........
June 6th, 2007 at 4:00 pm#105 Cynicon Implant
I would think the Dems would want to go on Fox to reveal Fox as a partisan mouthpiece (if that’s what they are) — not run away and hide. But then again, that’s what wimps do. When the going gets tough, run for it!
So, why hasn't any of the rough tough Republicans accepted the Daily Show's offer to host a debate?
June 6th, 2007 at 4:00 pmStupid Repuke Troll.
Air America Radio is heard all over the world on the Internet, on XM Satellite radio and all over the US on 70 AM and FM radio affiliates.
They're under new management and better than ever.
And LOTS of people listen to AAR. But only intelligent people do.
That leaves out you, troll.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:00 pmJuan,
Don't apologize.
I was impressed.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:01 pmUnfortunately, the Left doesn’t value anything enough to defend and preserve it.
Comment by valiant venus
Just let me clarify something from all this war-apology Nazi-style indoctrination. It would be lecturing for you to know which side of the political spectrum won an 8 hour/day labor, which side fought for women´s right to vote, which side fought for banning children labor, which side fought for better income, government representation of all people, etc., etc., etc. You should go to Bologna...you will know what Left is, instead of typing senseless propaganda trying to sound like you have a clue.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:01 pmJPV - I know this will be VERY difficult for you to understand - nobody LIKES war. Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
Except you cowardly wingnut sociopaths - who just *love* war. As it gives you an *excuse* to hate, torture and murder all of those *ranimals - whomever they are *this-week*!!! Right, Osama Ben Valiant-C*nt?
Unfortunately, the Left doesn’t value anything enough to defend and preserve it. Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
I'm sure that's what you whiny cowardly wingnuts tell yourself to justify invading a country that didn't attack us, while justifying *not* going after Osama and company that *did*. When you show that Saddam was someone we needed to *defend* ourselves from, we'll stop laughing at your st*pid remarks, you Anorexic sociopath c*nt.
This nation was born of war, was kept together through Civil War and will be defended by war with our most deadly, determined and patient enemy yet. No thanks to the Left. Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
Oh, poor st*pid c*nt. The nation was NOT kept together *through* the civil war - in fact that's what the war was about - the country *had-split*. As for keeping the country together, are you referring to all of the *republicans* that didn't want to fight in either world war, and fought to shut down funding of it *even-after-we-were-attacked*?
You're such a st*pid little c*nt - eat something Anorexia girl. You look insane today - AS USUAL...
And stop playing the *victim* card - dum bass. The iraqis didn't *ATTACK* us, unless by *we*, you were referring to Israel?
June 6th, 2007 at 4:03 pmvaliant venus,
"you’re not very familiar with the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, are you??"
I'm guessing you aren't. If you were, you'd realize the amazing amount of statutory and case law which says that when you are a broadcaster, you do not enjoy the same free speech rights as one might enjoy in print, or standing in front of your local federal building protesting.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:04 pmThe very amendment you speak of, Mighty aphrovenus, allows Jay Randal to say what he wants. Why does that scare you. If Fox would stand on it's reporting ability instead of it's slant this wouldn't be an issue because there would be a Democratic debate on Fox. The candidates don't want to legitimize Fox's piss poor reporting.
For the head of Fox to throw the crap he does proves what a poor excuse for a "News" channel Fox news thinks it to be.
Let me guess, you just can't accept that. Guess who gives a shit.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:04 pmvaliant venus > FOX spews propaganda which is NOT protected by the First Amendment. Now if FOX wants to change their station from a NEWS format to a comedy program, telling everybody its all parady, then I could care less what they do.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:04 pmHugo would love Fox news. A perfect marriage of Government propaganda and Media. He has his own version called Telesur.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:05 pmShane - I could care less about the Dem debates EXCEPT they are an excellent method of catching up on much needed sleep! Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
Then you must *love* the Republican conventions, where talk about defending a *fictional* country with *fictional* torture? BAHAHA - st*pid c*nt!
To be fair, I think the debates will be much more enlightening when the the field narrows… Tooodles………. Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
Yeah, you're waiting for your draft dodging Thompson *pretend-he-man* to take on cross dressing *pretend* conservative Girliani?
BAHAHAA, we're looking forward to that as we - st*pid c*nt!!
June 6th, 2007 at 4:05 pmJuan C why don’t you ever have any serious adult dialog ? With you its always that same childish juvenile nonsense.
Comment by Harry Truman
Why do you neocon trolls insist on pretending to be presidents? Can't you just pick a name and stick with it? Maybe then people would bother to have a legitimate discussion with you.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:05 pm26 Us Dead in the first 6 days of June averaging 4.33 per day - I can saftely say I dont think this surge is working
June 6th, 2007 at 4:07 pmStupid Repuke trolls.
On the anniversary of D-day, they are smearing liberals again.
Plenty of liberals died on the beaches 63 years ago for our freedom.
It wasn't all conservatives who sacrificed for our freedom.
And it definitely isn't weathy Repukes dying in Iraq now, dumbass.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:07 pmValiant Venus
JPV - I know this will be VERY difficult for you to understand - nobody LIKES war. Unfortunately, the Left doesn’t value anything enough to defend and preserve it. This nation was born of war, was kept together through Civil War and will be defended by war with our most deadly, determined and patient enemy yet. No thanks to the Left.
This is the most absurd comment? explain to me how the left doesn't value anything enough to defend and preserve it? You just spew stuff, constantly and hope something sticks, but nothing does. you know the the sentence where you say the nation was born of war, was kept together through civil war and will be defeneded by war...how is what we are doing in Iraq *defending our country* both the revolution and the civil war took place on US soil...its not called defending your country if you are attacking another. So call it what it is.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:07 pmUnfortunately, the Left doesn’t value anything enough to defend and preserve it.
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
I can think of one thing - the Constitution. You know, that piece of paper with all those funny words in it like "habeus corpus" and "due process" and "checks and balances" and "general welfare" and "full faith and credit" and "unreasonable searches and seizures" and "the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
I know it's just a piece of paper, but I and many other self-described liberals feel that this piece of paper - and all those funny words in it - is worth defending and preserving against attacks. Particularly when the attacks are coming from inside the executive branch, as they have been during this administration.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:07 pmDon't forget "Woops I married my cousin" Giuliani.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:07 pmLet's not forget folks that John Conyers is the man who before the last election said that he believed that there were possibly 23-24 reasons the President could be impeached. Well what do you know, John Conyers just happens to be the Chairman of the House Judiciary committee. Here is a great article by Byron York explaining this issue. Enjoy.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:08 pmhttp://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjVjM2M2N2U3ZjJlNTRiZmYzZjJkYzJiN2RlZGQyYjY=
You'll never see me on one of those 'other' networks. They ask those hard kind of questions. Ones I need Turd Blossom to answer for me. Unless I have my ear piece on, I can't answer dem udder ones's questions!!
I hate it when the facts are against me. That's when I get my minions out there to yell about the dat librul media bias.
SHOCK AND AWE!!
June 6th, 2007 at 4:08 pmFox is dying
June 6th, 2007 at 4:08 pmshane, you cannot have a legitimate discussion with trolls.
They're paid to come in here and disrupt the place. Start arguments, smear Democrats, get everybody off the topic.
When the topic is crooked Repukes, they really pour it on.
You cannot have an intellectual discussion with a troll. They have no intellect.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:08 pmHello all, hope everyone is doing well!
Do debates this early on really matter anyway? the herd will be culled by the time the real debates get going, so I don't understand why the "lesser" candidates don't agree to debate anywhere, anytime. Several of their respective "15 minutes" will be over soon enough, so they should take it whhere they can get it.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:09 pmAs far as the "major players":If you are truly trying to be the leader of our country, you should be prepared to debate on Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, at town hall meetings, and anywhere else the opportunity presents itself, I think. By not choosing to attend these debates, the democratic candidates simply open themselves up to criticism from the right, rather than delflect it.
Sorry wrong thread....
June 6th, 2007 at 4:09 pmToliver,
Thanks for the response. My point is that the current administration and others has avoided MSM outlets in certain instances. No one has ever called them cowards and wimps for doing so. So what if candidates don't want to participate in a debate on Fox? It's their choice. With such a long election cycle ahead of us, this is certainly not going to be last or best.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:09 pmJay Randal - Hmmm…Let me guess…..you’re not very familiar with the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, are you?? Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
BAHAHA, says the *pretend* Anorexic 24 year old lawyer, who's *passing* familiarity with the law comes from ANN COULTER!! BAHAHAHA, are you referring to the *regulated* airwaves? That the FCC LICENSES?
BAHAHAA, you're such a st*pid c*nt! How do you get through the day without Cheneying yourself!!!!
June 6th, 2007 at 4:09 pmYeah the GOP canidates did refuse Air America. Air America would not have spinned it, though. Fox on the other hand would. If you can avoid being misinterpreted to only benefit the Bush administration and the GOPs, avoid it, it's not worth it.
I also wondered about Fox and Al Qaeda. From what I interpret from the reading, they are one in the same.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:10 pmWell, Osama Ben Valiant Venus is *right* about one thing. Facing Fox and *her* is like facing Al Qaeda. They're all three fine examples of religious neo-fascist groups and individuals...
June 6th, 2007 at 4:11 pmHarry,
Keep forgetting to explain how you LIED about the jfk story appearing on page 1.........
June 6th, 2007 at 4:11 pm#173 ~ Shane, I was just thinking the same thing.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:12 pmWhen is President James K. Polk or Millard Fillmore going to show up here?
How dare you call yourself Harry Truman - he had numerous flaws as a president, but he was not a greedy, lying coward like the current resident.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:12 pm#124 vv
……and returning home, Kerry disgraced his military brothers in Congressional hearings - the self-serving weasel. Honestly, I can’t remember if his Congressional performance was before or after he threw (or didn’t throw) his medals/ ribbons over the White House fence
Disgraced? By speaking publicly about the atrocities that Vietnam veterans told him they committed, he was disgracing them? They talked about those things in the Winter Soldier conference. They wanted to get it off their chest and let people know what they did. They weren't proud of it. They were trying to make people understand what they were compelled to do in a war zone. They wanted that information out there. Kerry was explaining it to the members of Congress in the hearing room. He saw it firsthand, having been in Adm. Hoffman's 'free-fire zone'.
It'll be nice to know that when our troops come home from Iraq and Afghanistan, they'd better keep their mouths shut about the things they did over there. If they let their feelings of guilt get to them and dare to speak out about the things they did and saw in a war zone, they'll have right-wing chickenshit assholes jumping all over them and accusing them of disgracing their military brothers. That's right. For the good of the GOP, keep it bottled up inside, guys.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:13 pmValiant- you follow the fascist side, suck up the spittle and lick the boots you love so much and I’ll stay with the remaining part of the media that sometimes questions and offers opinions. Your keyhole perspective is your view from a prison you don’t even see. Dostoyevsky could have written a great story about your happily myopic mind.
Comment by tobeannounced
Excellent ... well said ... thank you.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:14 pmReally, these debates are for the voters of THEIR party. So if the Democrats want to get their message across to other Democrats before the primarys, why waste their time going on the neofascist channel, knowing that only die hard Republicans and old people are watching?
Please, please, if you have an elderly person in your life who doesn't know how to program their TV, block Fox "News" for them. Trust me, they'll NEVER miss it. I've done it for 10 people in my family (wait until they shuffle off to the loo) and not one of them has complained.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:14 pmTobey Tall,
Then obviously you didn't listen to me when I put out the new talking points.
Don't you realize that the more people we have on the ground in the middle of a Civil War the more casualties we will have. Why do you have such a liberal slant on your views. You must not watch Fox News.
liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal!
By now we have mad eyou learn that because you are liberal you are inherently wrong.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:14 pmGuys, you gotta stop feeding the troll.
He's getting you to respond on purpose.
He wants you to get off topic.
The topic is FOX News and why it is not a legitimate news organization.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:15 pmBush lover trolls were late on coming onto the threads today. They must have had an emergency meeting with Karl Rove to get new material and talking points.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:16 pmI'hm the Decider guy!
And I decide that we will stay in Iraq for 50 years.
I don't care what the American people want.
I don't care what the law will allow.
I will do whatever the hell I want.
Because I am a spoiled little brat.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:17 pmkiki,
That is brilliant!
June 6th, 2007 at 4:17 pmRoger Ailes is just drumming up the message of the Republicans (including Dick Cheney) that we've seen in the past around election time: that if a Democrat is elected, we'll surely be attacked again. We heard those words of doom in 2004, again in 2006, and prior to today we've heard it from Giuliani.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:18 pmRUCerious,
I'm too busy trying to continue my policy of Manifest Destiny to take part in your dribble!!
June 6th, 2007 at 4:18 pmHey y'all,
Thanks for holding the trolls here. The other threads are pretty nice.
:-)
June 6th, 2007 at 4:20 pmUnfortunately, the Left doesn’t value anything enough to defend and preserve it. This nation was born of war, was kept together through Civil War and will be defended by war with our most deadly, determined and patient enemy yet. No thanks to the Left.
Comment by valiant venus
More lies vagrant venom. The left does believe in war. That's why we were all behind fighting in Afghanistan and looking for OBL. Remember? But you idiots decided to forget about him and instead go spend lives and money in Iraq for oil contracts leaving OBL on the loose to cause more problems. But Bush doesn't worry about him much any more, why is that? No money in it? You should stop telling so many lies, it's bad for your soul.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:20 pmComment by Cynicon Implant — June 6, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
And when was it that the CEOs of CNN and MSNBC publicly accused Bush of making the USA less safe by creating more terrorists worldwide after he invaded Iraq, and claimed that a Republican president elected in 2008 would continue down the same path?
Oh right...they didn't. But maybe there are other instances in which these CEOs somehow made a connection between the Republicans and terrorists. I'm sure you'll point those out to us.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:22 pmthe repubs won't debate on the Lifetime network because they're afraid of made-for-tv movies starring connie seleca.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:22 pmBeen wonderin' where you were, Zooey.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:22 pmHey y’all,
Thanks for holding the trolls here. The other threads are pretty nice.
:-)
Comment by Zooey — June 6, 2007 @ 4:20 pm
Shhhhhh! Don't spill the strategery!
June 6th, 2007 at 4:23 pmBy now we have mad eyou learn that because you are liberal you are inherently wrong.
Comment by President Bush
That was sudo- truth, until you and your co-horts came along to destroy your own myth.
But then again I was never a Demon-crat Liberal nor a Retardican GrOPer.
It's funny to watch the identical opposite retarded twin idiots of keft and right argue over whos more moral..
June 6th, 2007 at 4:23 pmComment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
As if invading countries that were of no threat to us is the way to go.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:27 pm- I could care less about the Dem debates EXCEPT they are an excellent method of catching up on much needed sleep! To be fair, I think the debates will be much more enlightening when the the field narrows…
Tooodles……….
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
And yet you're on this thread bitching up a storm. I guess you work for Fox.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:29 pmJust let me clarify something from all this war-apology Nazi-style indoctrination. It would be lecturing for you to know which side of the political spectrum won an 8 hour/day labor, which side fought for women´s right to vote, which side fought for banning children labor, which side fought for better income, government representation of all people, etc., etc., etc. You should go to Bologna…you will know what Left is, instead of typing senseless propaganda trying to sound like you have a clue.
Comment by Juan C
Well said Juan. Too bad VV, the self-hating fascist, doesn't think any of these movements were a good idea. That's how delusional the poor pathetic hag is.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:32 pmNotice how much Mighty Aphrovenus throws insults and makes up her own stories on how bad the left is but can't muster any defense of this president. She's a sad bitter little fungus.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:32 pm#204 pgw
the repubs won’t debate on the Lifetime network because they’re afraid of made-for-tv movies starring connie seleca.
And they won't be debating on PBS. Not with Tinky Winky there.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:32 pmWell put Juan C.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:39 pmShane, I was just thinking the same thing.
When is President James K. Polk or Millard Fillmore going to show up here?
Comment by RUCerious
They're too big of wimps to pick names and live with their reputations. Bunch of cowards hiding under desks because somebody told them the terrorists were coming to get them. And they all live in some stupid little town that doesn't even have brown people that's why they're so afraid of them. Ignorant asshats all.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:39 pmThis is not about being afraid of FOX Noise, it's about punishing them in for being utterly biased and irresponsible. It's about doing everything we can do to marginalize them.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:40 pmMr. Ailes...how about you STFU?
June 6th, 2007 at 4:45 pmAnd we all laughed at Baghdad Bob.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:46 pmLook at that guy. Ailes finished his speech by stating, "a-thee, a-thee, a-thee, ... that's all folks!"
June 6th, 2007 at 4:47 pmHey y’all,
Thanks for holding the trolls here. The other threads are pretty nice.
:-)
Comment by Zooey — June 6, 2007 @ 4:20 pm
Shhhhhh! Don’t spill the strategery!
Comment by toasterhead
Sorry!!
Been wonderin’ where you were, Zooey.
Comment by trueblue — June 6, 2007 @ 4:22 pm
Just hangin' around. :)
June 6th, 2007 at 4:48 pmFox and Al Qaeda are two faces of the same fundamentalist Jihad against the thinking world.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:49 pmMemo to Ailes: try putting down the fork and mix in a salad once in a while.
Oh, and stop trying to pretend Fox News is anything other than a propaganda arm for the Repub party. Your own boss admitted it publically, fatass.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:51 pmAny comment by valiant venus — Your love interest Roger Aisles the neo-con that was directly behind the Bush Sr. speech to Congress on Sept 11, 1990: "[The war in Iraq is] a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times...a New World Order can emerge."
Lee Atwater; Karl Rove and Roger Aisles mentor said it best while dying from brain cancer and repenting all the bad things he had done in the name of party politics:
"My illness has taught me something about the nature of humanity, love, brotherhood and relationships that I never understood, and probably never would have. So, from that standpoint, there is some truth and good in everything."
"It took a deadly illness to put me eye to eye with that truth, but it is a truth that the country, caught up in its ruthless ambitions and moral decay, can learn on my dime."
Lee Atwater -
June 6th, 2007 at 4:53 pmCrump’s Brother of course there is liberal bias you fool thats why the jfk story was on page 37 of the NYT...
Comment by Harry Truman — June 6, 2007 @ 3:44 pm
Another lie propogated by Bill O. But you are the type of person who is so easily duped by lies.
As has been pointed out, the story was referenced on the front page.
I'm so sorry that it wasn't at the top of the page with 2 inch tall letters jumping out at the reader. However, as you recall, in the days after 9/11, George Bush told us to be very afraid of terrorists, and then he told us to go shopping. Carry on with our lives. Buy stuff. Go on trips to the beach. You know...normal stuff. Because the terrorists hate us for our freedoms. So we need to show them who's boss.
So don't get your panties in a wad if the news organizations don't announce from the rooftops every terrorist plot that was only in the planning stages and was being planned by folks who had no prior experience and was of very little threat. People who were familiar with the operations at JFK said that mimimal damage would have been done to the targeted fuel system due to safeguards that were in place.
You know, I'd really like to have seen on the front page of our local paper a picture of Nancy Pelosi being sworn in as the first female Speaker of the House in the history of our country. Yet our very Republican-biased newspaper put in on page 3A. Instead, on that front page I was treated to an article about two parents who gave their mentally handicapped daughter drugs to stunt her growth, in order to make it easier for them to take care of her as she aged. The family didn't even live in our state. Yes, that was MUCH more newsworthy than a history-making event taking place in our nation.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:55 pmWho would want to face that face?
It's not that they can't face Fox, it's that they don't want to waste everybody's time, including their own, by legitimizing the stupid little game this pitiful network plays by pretending it's a news network.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:57 pmIt's my party and I'll debate where I want to.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:57 pmThe hypocritical right has no problem boycotting France or the Dixie Chicks or whomever does not act the way they want, but when progressives try it they are afraid, anti-American, etc.
Ailes is symptomatic of what ails the right.
It all still comes back to whether candidates of either party feel that Faux "News" is a legitimate news outlet. Apparently one of the parties doesn't.
The other party does feel Faux "News" is a credible news outlet. They also feel it is ok to torture, get rid of habeus corpus, invade countries that haven't attacked us, wiretap phone conversations without warrant, send military forces into battle without the necessary equipment, and many other actions which are questionably "American".
Ailes is panicking. The Democratic candidates have turned their back on the snotty suitor, and he is having a hissyfit. Tough tamales.
June 6th, 2007 at 4:57 pmIt’s my party and I’ll debate where I want to.
The hypocritical right has no problem boycotting France or the Dixie Chicks or whomever does not act the way they want, but when progressives try it they are afraid, anti-American, etc.
Ailes is symptomatic of what ails the right.
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)
Nail on head, PLC.
June 6th, 2007 at 5:00 pmGosh, if Repubs are afraid to go on to Air America and be interviewed, how can they ever hope to defend our country from terrorism? I mean, it's just a radio network, right?
The only member of the Bush administration to ever go on the Daily Show is Margaret Spelling. How can this administration fight terrorism if they're afraid to go on the Daily Show.
June 6th, 2007 at 5:06 pmIt isn't the party that boycotts Fox News that looks bad. It's the party that embaces Fox and treats them as legitimate that looks weak and stupid. Fox News = Every Crappy Tabloid
June 6th, 2007 at 5:06 pmLook at these great responses to the fearbots. PLC, Emerald and many others I thank you for not allowing the mental midgets that troll here get off without a dose of logic and truth.
Great voices and smack downs.
Stand tall.
June 6th, 2007 at 5:07 pmMr Ailes looks like he'd fit in quite nicely at a Vogon Poetry reading.....
June 6th, 2007 at 5:16 pmThe issue is whether they want to legitimize this constant source of partisan misinformation by allowing Fox to claim that it is a real news source that can independently manage a presidential debate.
Therein lies the nugget that Fox and its viewers and supporters are too dense to get.
June 6th, 2007 at 5:25 pmMr Ailes looks like he’d fit in quite nicely at a Vogon Poetry reading…..
Comment by Zooey — June 6, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
Oh freddled gruntbuggly!
June 6th, 2007 at 5:26 pm“The candidates that can’t face Fox, can’t face Al Qaeda,†said Mr. Ailes.
Right Mr. Ailes. Faux Noise is a threat to America, just like Al Qaeda, so a Democratic candidate can practice facing Al Qaeda (which the current corrupt, criminal president you have pimped for, hasn't managed to do) at your outhouse.
Naaah - If I were a candidate, the stink from Murdoch and his bucket boys, Orally, InHannity, and the rest, would gag me so badly I wouldn't be able to respond to questions from the Faux Noise Stooges. I would just have to pass!
June 6th, 2007 at 5:31 pmOh freddled gruntbuggly!
Comment by toasterhead
Oh, for heaven's sake! He hasn't started yet!
Stop wincing! :)
June 6th, 2007 at 5:41 pmFox never really apologized to Obama for the big lie about him attending a madrassa. I think that's reason enough to tell Ailes to stick it.
June 6th, 2007 at 5:44 pm"#166 - "....which side of the political spectrum won an 8 hour/day labor, which side fought for women´s right to vote, which side fought for banning children labor, which side fought for better income..."
Juan - Winning legislative and judicial "battles" is a tad bit different that killing our enemies.....
June 6th, 2007 at 5:51 pmCaption Contest:
"Where is my ship, Solo?"
June 6th, 2007 at 6:02 pmValiant Venus: "Juan - Winning legislative and judicial “battles†is a tad bit different that killing our enemies….."
OK, then please tell us which party decided to enter and win WWII?
June 6th, 2007 at 6:03 pm"valiant venus > FOX spews propaganda which is NOT protected by the First Amendment. Now if FOX wants to change their station from a NEWS format to a comedy program, telling everybody its all parady, then I could care less what they do." Comment by Jay Randal
Not surprisingly, Jay, YOU'RE WRONG - - AGAIN....The Constitution expressly protects political speech - whether YOU like it or not. That's why the Progressive Democrats of America, the Democratic S*cialists of America, the Comm*nist Party USA, Green Anarchy, Air America, Indymedia (propagandists ALL!) spout their propaganda under the rights enumerated in the Constitution.
Just because YOU don't like a stance, or source, or think a presentation is one sided does NOT mean it should be banned from the airwaves. I don't care for many "news" outlets.....and would NEVER suggest their licenses be pulled.
(I do appreciate your demonstration some Progs are very totalitarian in their political approach....I'm not surprised....so were the powers that be in the now-defunct USSR. Cheer up! Castro and Chavez live.)
June 6th, 2007 at 6:04 pm"Fox is dying" Comment by Tobey Tall
*****Not according to Bernie Shaw, formerly of CNN........
June 6th, 2007 at 6:07 pmBluePuppy - You're late to the table - again... I was discussing contemporary Dems since 1961. I previously noted that JFK was the LAST security minded Dem to occupy the White House. (Pssst...."LAST" does not mean "ONLY")
June 6th, 2007 at 6:10 pmI can't think of one cause that would rouse the "modern" Left to abandon the 'peace train' and defend the country....please enlighten us.....
Valiant Penis, if you can't discern the difference between a political war and a strategic war, that's your problem. I don't have that problem. The last truly strategic war we fought was WWII. All others, with the notable exception of fulfilling our NATO obligation in Kosovo, were political. I don't agree with spilling blood for political purposes. You as a good little sociopath, do.
June 6th, 2007 at 6:18 pmValiant Penis: "I can’t think of one cause that would rouse the “modern†Left to abandon the ‘peace train’ and defend the country….please enlighten us….."
Only a fool would look at a policy which has had the result of increasing the amount of terrorism in the world and call it "defending the country." You, evidently, are that fool.
June 6th, 2007 at 6:21 pm"They also feel it is ok to torture, get rid of habeus corpus, invade countries that haven’t attacked us, wiretap phone conversations without warrant, send military forces into battle without the necessary equipment, and many other actions which are questionably “Americanâ€."
Comment by Emerald
Many conservatives don't equate loud music, sleep deprivation, waterboarding, etc. as torture. We believe the phyical infliction of pain (ie. See: Saddam's Torture methods) does not garner good information. So obviously you have a problem with telling the TRUTH.
Not surprisingly, you forget to mention that habeus corpus is not a legal remedy for enemy combatants and the NSA wiretaps must be foreign in origin or destination (and include a terror suuspect). You conveniently "forget" Saddam's violation of the 1991 Cease Fire and his payment of "blood money" to suicide bombers.....
And you wonder why the Dems "enjoy" such a wimpy, dovish reputation?? America would disappear if left to the Dems for a prolonged period of time.....but they would be realllly sorry about it.
June 6th, 2007 at 6:22 pmBluePupppy - I love progs who fine tune their talking points to fit the opposition argument.......But your fine erudite diatribe about NATO, etc, still doesn't make me believe Progs VALUE anything enough to fight militarily for it.
June 6th, 2007 at 6:28 pmValiant, they deleted my last three posts arguing to you. They allow trolls to continually obfuscate and destroy threads, but I use the word "penis," and they delete my post. That's why we liberals are born losers in this horrible game that has come to be called modern political argument. However, your absurd excuse for a president has screwed up your party so much that even born losers like the liberals running this site won't be able to sabotage the tidal wave that hits Repubs in 2008
I'm through with this site. They protect trolls like you and your friends and delete angry liberals like me. Goodbye and good luck. And, after the next election, enjoy your irrelevant political position for the next few decades.
Bluedog is OUT!
June 6th, 2007 at 6:42 pmFox "News" tried to exclude Ron Paul from their South Carolina Repub debate. They couldn't get away with it, so they did the next best thing. They staged the debate and the coverage afterwards so that all the candidates and pundits could savage and attack Ron Paul at will. Funny thing is that Ron Paul won the stupid Fox "News" "American Idol" voting contest they had.
June 6th, 2007 at 6:45 pmFox, Murdoch and "Jabba the Ailes" can't face Ron Paul, they can't face America.
242. What many conservatives believe as far as torture is concerned is a scary thought. The fact that the almost all Republican candidates stepped all over each other to "out-torture" a hypothetical terrorist (from the Repubie's first debate) is evidence enough that critical thinking is lacking among these candidates. Only McCain, who has been tortured in captivity, knew what a civilized nation must do and stand for. That is the TRUTH.
The NSA wiretaps could have been acquired legally, without the breaking of laws, but Bushco didn't want to subject itself to legal scrutiny. And don't forget-Bushie and his pals get to decide who is an enemy combatant, so that erodes the habeus corpus for all of us.
No-the truth is that the party that once boasted of honorable, courageous conservatives is now the party of the chickenhawk neocons and the fundamentalist Religious Wrong.
They have done more to destroy our constitution and national character than any in modern history, perhaps ever. You can decry the advent of a new Democratic presidency (which is inevitable, what with the daily scandals and screwups by Bushco) but the future of our country, our way of life, and our constitution depends minimizing the damage done by Bush, and getting on with restoring our national integrity and global leadership.
June 6th, 2007 at 6:46 pmOK, that was just plain stupid on my part. There must be a server problem or something, but I thought they had deleted my posts because I referred to Valiant Venus as Valiant Penis. I only resort to this kind of juvenile thing when Valiant mangles my name. I apologize to TP for unloading on them and I guess I'm not OUT after all. Well, I am out for the day. Good night and good luck. I need a cold one.
June 6th, 2007 at 6:51 pmBluedog - I see your posts now - couldn't see them before... anyhow - where are u off 2?
June 6th, 2007 at 6:53 pmAnd they've gone again.... sorry Bluedog....
June 6th, 2007 at 6:55 pm#247 - Dear Whiny BluePuppY - - I have had several posts not allowed today - - so what! Now go cry your eyes out to the "nanny state" or your mommy - she still loves you....waaaagh....
And idiot, that you are - you equate security, JFK and Viet Nam, completely forgetting the Cuban Missile crisis and the strong, non-negotiable stance JFK took. Figures.
P.S. We'll miss you.....
June 6th, 2007 at 6:55 pmFox never really apologized to Obama for the big lie about him attending a madrassa. I think that’s reason enough to tell Ailes to stick it.
Comment by chimpeach — June 6, 2007 @ 5:44 pm
Uhh - he did attend a madrassa. So did I. So did you (I assume, unless you were home-schooled). So do millions of American children every day. We also attend escuelas, écoles, scuoles, Schulen, å¦æ ¡, школы, í•™êµ, โรงเรียน, ysgol, and okulu.
June 6th, 2007 at 6:56 pmDon't tell me - TP cens*red BluePuppy's Swan Song......
June 6th, 2007 at 6:58 pmOnly a progressive toasterhead would equate Madrassas with regular schools....
June 6th, 2007 at 7:00 pmJFK - Cuba? You mean a progressive DID take a stand and fought for what he believed in? Fascinating, Megan. You are arguing against yourself now. I think that's illegal in Alabama.
June 6th, 2007 at 7:07 pmTouche'. I might have said "harmless" instead of "harmful" but why quibble.
June 6th, 2007 at 7:13 pmI wonder about "...and that's what's coming."
I'd like someone to ask Ailes what he means, if he knows what's coming, and how does he know. I'm tired of these gasbags making faux threats.
Only a progressive toasterhead would equate Madrassas with regular schools….
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
In Arabic, that's what the word means. I know it's a little "scary" - triconsonant roots and the ten measures and the idafa structure are certainly intimidating. But with a little work you'll get the hang of it!
June 6th, 2007 at 7:15 pmI spend my days walking the shore, ever vigilant, waiting for a sign of the invading fleet.
June 6th, 2007 at 7:18 pmAl Queda! the very name strikes fear in the hearts of villagers up and down the coast. Should the enemy follow us here, scenes of rape and pillage will be common across the land; the victory will be quick and decisive, mullahs will call from the Washington Monument and Statue of Liberty.
Turdle - You're even more late to the table than our vanishing friend, BluePuppY.....Since I noted that JFK was the LAST Dem in the White House who took National Security seriously.....And since JFK was a TAX CUTTER and a strong National Defense kind of leader, I wouldn't equate him to contempoary Progressives ......you really don't add much to this conversation
June 6th, 2007 at 7:20 pmToast - Looook at the "curriculum" and tell us if Madrassas equate to regular schools. Then give us the root of the word......
June 6th, 2007 at 7:23 pmJPV - I know this will be VERY difficult for you to understand - nobody LIKES war. Unfortunately, the Left doesn’t value anything enough to defend and preserve it. This nation was born of war, was kept together through Civil War and will be defended by war with our most deadly, determined and patient enemy yet. No thanks to the Left.
Comment by valiant venus
Learn some history before you go spouting of BS.
IDIOT.
First Barbary War (1801–1805)
Thomas Jefferson
Democratic-Republican Party (Precursor of the modern-day Democratic Party.)
War of 1812 (1812-1815)
James Madison
Democratic-Republican Party (Precursor of the modern-day Democratic Party.)
Second Barbary War (1815)
James Madison
Democratic-Republican Party (Precursor of the modern-day Democratic Party.)
Mexican-American War (1846–1848)
James K. Polk
Democrat
World War I (1917–1918)
Woodrow Wilson
Democrat
World War II (1941–1945)
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Democrat
Korean War (1950-1953)
Harry S. Truman
Vietnam War (1959-1975)
June 6th, 2007 at 7:31 pmJohn F. Kennedy
Democrat
Lyndon B. Johnson
Democrat
Strong national defense - so Dick Cheney counts as a progressive with all those defense cuts he wanted in the 90s? Cutting and running from Iraq in 1991 instead of finishing the job?
JFK not a progressive? 13 states packed with Klansmen can't be wrong surely? Your yardstick is too simple - black hats white hats eh? With us or against us.... typical Exceptionalist American. So insecure.
June 6th, 2007 at 7:36 pmHe is just another overstuffed corporate junkie with a wad of your hard earned cash.
June 6th, 2007 at 7:41 pmToast - Looook at the “curriculum†and tell us if Madrassas equate to regular schools. Then give us the root of the word……
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 7:23 pm
I don't have a copy of any madrasa curricula in front of me, but in the Arab world I believe they generally study math, science, history, Modern Standard Arabic, English or French, geography, and the usual subjects.
Outside the Arab world the term refers specifically to schools with a religious focus, so the curriculum would include Classical Arabic, Qur'anic interpretation and often memorization, the Hadiths, shari'a law, and Muslim history, in addition to the more secular subjects. These would be similar to Catholic or Protestant or Jewish private schools in the United States.
And, just like in religious private schools -- and even public schools -- in the U.S., there are some Imams who take advantage of their positions to insert hateful and inciteful messages into the minds of their students. This is tragic abuse of power, particularly in regions where the public school system is so poor that these schools are the only educational option. This abuse is certainly not limited to Islamic schools, of course - we have our Regent and Liberty Universities, after all.
June 6th, 2007 at 7:43 pmAnd Bob (where's my pillow case?) Jones, and Oral Roberts (how can anyone get a computer science degree from a university founded by a man who hallucinated a 300ft Jesus?)
June 6th, 2007 at 7:55 pmServing in the military and seeing combat would be something I think more important then stupid fox appearances.
June 6th, 2007 at 7:56 pmAnd wasn't Oral Roberts the 'send me money quick or Jesus will smite me' huckster?
June 6th, 2007 at 7:57 pmliberals cut and run from Fox.They retreated from a retreat.
Liberals will cut and run from Al Qaeda to.
Liberals are cowards
June 6th, 2007 at 7:58 pmThe Candidates that wont let Fox get away with their unAmerican activity just might not let Al Qeada get away with theirs... though since it is the democrats we are talking about they may require being ridiculed into going after Al Qeada just as they had to be ridiculed to stand up to Fox Propaganda Anti-America Network.
June 6th, 2007 at 7:58 pm#243 vv
America would disappear if left to the Dems for a prolonged period of time…..but they would be realllly sorry about it.
Privacy, freedom, rule of law, and the Constitution would disappear if left to the Republicans for a prolonged period of time. We're witnessing it right now.
June 6th, 2007 at 7:59 pmWhy are Democrats always ready to start war?
JPV - I know this will be VERY difficult for you to understand - nobody LIKES war. Unfortunately, the Left doesn’t value anything enough to defend and preserve it. This nation was born of war, was kept together through Civil War and will be defended by war with our most deadly, determined and patient enemy yet. No thanks to the Left.
Comment by valiant venus
Learn some history before you go spouting of BS.
IDIOT.
First Barbary War (1801–1805)
Thomas Jefferson
Democratic-Republican Party (Precursor of the modern-day Democratic Party.)
War of 1812 (1812-1815)
James Madison
Democratic-Republican Party (Precursor of the modern-day Democratic Party.)
Second Barbary War (1815)
James Madison
Democratic-Republican Party (Precursor of the modern-day Democratic Party.)
Mexican-American War (1846–1848)
James K. Polk
Democrat
World War I (1917–1918)
Woodrow Wilson
Democrat
World War II (1941–1945)
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Democrat
Korean War (1950-1953)
Harry S. Truman
Vietnam War (1959-1975)
John F. Kennedy
Democrat
Lyndon B. Johnson
Democrat
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June 6th, 2007 at 8:00 pm#241 vv
I can’t think of one cause that would rouse the “modern†Left to abandon the ‘peace train’ and defend the country….please enlighten us…..
That says more about your inability to think than it does about anything else. Here, let me help you with that heavy lifting. Try 1) attacking and defeating the Taliban and 2) catching Osama bin Laden and bringing him to justice. All Dems were on board for those efforts and wanted to continue them. Unfortunately, they weren't in the majority or in the White House, so the Taliban are now back and getting stronger and bin Laden is still out there while al Qaeda is growing around the world. Maybe it's time for the GOP to step off the dumbass train.
June 6th, 2007 at 8:06 pmSince Ailes' hero, Chimpy, is such a profile in courage...oh, that's right, when Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad challenged him to a public debate, the Bubble Boy turned tail and ran. Maybe this leaves an opening for Ailes to show everyone how it's done. He should offer to go into "enemy territory" (i.e., Iran), where he will engage in a nationally televised debate (on behalf of W) with Ahmadinejad, with an Iranian news agency choosing the questions, and soon afterward placing their own preferred spin on what was said. Then Ailes can find his way out of the country (no flak jacket nor armed escort--that would be cowardly) on his own once the debate has concluded. And rest assured, the Iranian network would most likely treat him more fairly than Faux News would treat any of the Dem candidates. So, whadda say, Roger?
June 6th, 2007 at 8:15 pmNail on head, PLC.
Comment by Zooey — June 6, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
Indeed.
And PLC can add this one:
The Bush-loving, war-loving Republicans in my part of the country refused to house exchange students from France along about the time we were gearing up for war. Why? Not because they spoke funny...not because they looked funny...it certainly wasn't anything the students themselves had done or may have done.
Why? Because the politicians in the students' home country didn't support George Bush's Mid East folly and kiss his ass and follow him into Iraq.
In other words, our freedom-loving bastard Republicans blamed young students for a decision which they had no control over, and by God they were going to pay for it.
But this has a happy ending...once word got out that these students were being turned away, there were plenty of people who stepped up and volunteered to welcome them into their homes.
June 6th, 2007 at 8:24 pmWhoah Chris try not to pee all over yourself in excitement......
June 6th, 2007 at 8:25 pm#258 - JPV - "Learn some history"? You should learn to R-E-A-D. "Contemporary" - I know it's a BIIIG (aka - multisyllabic) word but I'm beginning to think you're an idiot-savant....You stopped short in your historically fascinating cut and paste job with LBJ. Which CONTEMPORARY Democratic Presidents (or Presidential contenders) had solid National Defense stances......
#261 - Thank you, toaster, for guessing about the madrassas' curriculum. And your clever equation of madrassas and parochial schools - a work of sheer genius. Now please make my day and tell me you're a Democratic strategist!!!!
#269 - "All Democrats were on board" - I don't think so...Most elected Dems....yes. But a sizeable chunk of Prog voters did not support going into Afghanistan let alone Iraq. Hint: Ramsey Clark, International ANSWER, Not in Our Name, Brian Becker, Congresswomen Lee and McKinney, American Friends Service Committee....
Your sweeping statements reflect your inability to filter information....
June 6th, 2007 at 8:32 pmNot surprisingly, you forget to mention that habeus corpus is not a legal remedy for enemy combatants and the NSA wiretaps must be foreign in origin or destination (and include a terror suuspect).
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
And you forgot to mention that you find it great policy that Bush supports any foreign country capturing and holding American troops indefinitely and putting them on trial while witholding important evidence. I guess it was a dream that the Bush administration demanded our people and our spy plane be released hours after they made an emergency landing in China. Bush thinks it would be just great if other countries adopt the policies in the Detainee Act; I guarantee you that had our people in China been put on trial, Bush would have shit a brick and kicked and screamed and yelled until our people were released.
As for the warrantless wiretapping program, on that domestic-to-international call, Bush is oh-so-concerned about terrorists getting away and whines that we don't have enough time to go to the FISA court for a warrant because the process takes too long and we need to act fast to prevent an attack.
But when it comes to a domestic-to-domestic call? Gosh...all these concerns just fade away because he'll go right up to the FISA court and get a warrant.
June 6th, 2007 at 8:35 pmIf anybody is to be considered weak, as Roger Ailes would have us believe, we then need to add George Bush to the list. Why else would his parents, George Sr. and Barbara, tell us how it hurts their feelings when people criticize their beloved son?
Way to go, George and Barb. You've raised a pussy of a son.
June 6th, 2007 at 8:38 pmComment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
You obviously don't give a damn that this country at one time was looked upon with envy and was an example for the rest of the world. That includes our style of government and the way we treat our citizens. You know, innocent until proven guilty and the right to a fair trial, and all that jazz.
Bush says he wants to spread democracy around the world, giving people in foreign lands the same way of life that we enjoy. Apparently he doesn't include our justice system in his plans, for if he did, we would extend the legal system that we enjoy to those who are accused of being our enemy. The guy that commits a crime against a member of my family, even if I witness it and catch it on video, still gets a fair trial under our system. It's something that as an American I support, and it's something that our troops are supposedly defending while fighting in Iraq, fighting all the past wars, and fighting any future wars.
June 6th, 2007 at 8:53 pm#261 - Thank you, toaster, for guessing about the madrassas’ curriculum. And your clever equation of madrassas and parochial schools - a work of sheer genius. Now please make my day and tell me you’re a Democratic strategist!!!!
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 8:32 pm
Actually I got my information from the First Lady - http://usinfo.state.gov/scv/Archive/2005/Jul/18-168171.html
June 6th, 2007 at 9:05 pmBut this has a happy ending…once word got out that these students were being turned away, there were plenty of people who stepped up and volunteered to welcome them into their homes.
Comment by WC
What a bunch of messed up idiots. My family took in a Vietnamese college student at the end of that war because she obviously couldn't go home, and her host family had kicked her out. She stayed with us for about three years.
BTW, great job this evening, WC.
June 6th, 2007 at 9:07 pmComment by Zooey — June 6, 2007 @ 9:07 pm
Thanks, darlin'.
June 6th, 2007 at 9:22 pm#170 jay randal hits the nail on the head - couldn't agree more -there is no way that anybody with 1/2 a brain can take these guys (and coultergeist) seriously - they need to stop pretending to be a news channel and re-define themselves as satirical observational assumptionists
June 6th, 2007 at 9:40 pmAs usual, FOX NOISE.
June 6th, 2007 at 9:47 pmThanks, darlin’.
Comment by WC
Anytime, babes. :D
June 6th, 2007 at 9:52 pmThanks darth vader > yes FOX spews nonsense which they try to foist as news. Their concocted baloney is used as propaganda to manipulate those who watch their programs. FOX was given a license to broadcast news, so they have violated the terms of use of that license.
June 6th, 2007 at 10:03 pmYet another fat, old, white billionaire repug telling it like it ain't!
A$$hole.
June 6th, 2007 at 10:04 pm#276 - ".....You obviously don’t give a damn that this country at one time was looked upon with envy and was an example for the rest of the world. That includes our style of government and the way we treat our citizens. You know, innocent until proven guilty and the right to a fair trial, and all that jazz....." Comment by WC
****You sure are good at jumping to conclusions!! Confident, hard-working people who long for freedom love the U.S. S-o-c-i-a-l-is-t-s and slackers do not!! And I, for one, could care less. If you are so busy trying to be everything to everybody, no one will like or respect you.
For your information, O' assumptive one, defendants are accorded more rights in the US and state criminal justice sytems than in most nations where one must PROVE their innocence. As a criminal defense attorney I guard my clients' Constitutional rights like a lion. (If you must know, defendants are accorded MORE rights than any victim of crime - that is the way the system was designed and operates.) Sadly, the most prevalent call to subvert First Amendment Rights comes from the Left.
May I suggest if your level of swimming is equal to the level of your knowledge about the criminal justice system - use floaties AND a life jacket.....
June 6th, 2007 at 10:18 pmC'mon Ailes! Calling the Dems "chicken" is your best shot? Surely you can do better than that. Try "poopie head, peepee face." And if they still don't give you your way, you can always try holding your breath until you turn blue.
June 6th, 2007 at 10:23 pmToaster - The First Lady giving a polite speech in Tanzania and you mislead the thread. I don't think they have Madrassas for girls in Paki. The Tanzanian schools mentioned in your link were in no way, shape or form similar to the madrassas poor Arab parents send their sons to for religious indoctrination. Like the devil, you enjoy mixing truth with lies.....I'll have to start calling you burnt toast
June 6th, 2007 at 10:26 pmThe candidates who have chosen not to participate in the Faux Newz debate are, contrary to Ailes allegation that they cannot handle the heat, are actually showing great courage and dedication to their principles, by having the balls to stand up to the merciless pounding that they have brought upon themselves due to their decision NOT to attend.
If even ONE changed his or her mind because of the ranting of the elderly Pillsbury Doughboy CEO of Faux Newz, THAT would be a sign of cowardice worth considering
June 6th, 2007 at 10:47 pmJuan - Winning legislative and judicial “battles†is a tad bit different that killing our enemies…..
Comment by valiant venus
They were made by the use of force. General strikes, revolutions and dissent. A lot of people die. Your side of the spectrum would still not allow you to vote. Arent you happy?
June 6th, 2007 at 11:17 pmSadly, the most prevalent call to subvert First Amendment Rights comes from the Left.
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 10:18 pm
Proof? Sources? Your ass doesn't count.
Didn't feel like responding to the 2nd paragraph of my post?
How about my post @ 8:35 pm?
June 6th, 2007 at 11:21 pmFor your information, O’ assumptive one...blah blah blah...
Comment by valiant venus — June 6, 2007 @ 10:18 pm
I didn't question our legal system, idiot. You either didn't read my second paragraph, or you did yet decided to ignore it.
June 6th, 2007 at 11:27 pmwell noted jay randal and may the force be with you - i would like to see at least one of the dems front up to fox noise - i can't understand why they are backing away from a debate with these morons - it would be hilarious - turn the tables on 'em - get bill maher or stephen colbert to coach,let's say,obama (a perfect foil for billo and the likes - a black guy with a muslim sounding name and pearly white teeth who doesn't like blowing things up) - debate nonsense with nonsense - how could this one miss?? - and advertise the fact that colbert is consiglieri to the lone dem who stands tall - fox noise will eat this up and at least the dems can show the people that while they may lack backbone,they have a sense of humour - am i wrong???
June 6th, 2007 at 11:28 pmI bet if Alfred “Aisles†Hitchcock turned around we would see murdochs arm up his arse operating the ventriliquist dummies mouth.
Comment by Aisle is a hack
You insult the memory of Alfred Hitchcock, a man of true talent and originality. His rotund figure was his only resemblance to the partisan hack Ailes.
June 7th, 2007 at 1:42 amso the talking heads at faux are comparing people to nazi's again while at the same time using nazi brownshirt bullying tactics in an attempt to get their way...priceless.
June 7th, 2007 at 6:31 amNo only Olbermann compares people to nazis.Democrats are cowards
June 7th, 2007 at 7:47 amHey, I know the one of the picture! It's Porky, from the Warner toons saying goodbye at the end!
June 7th, 2007 at 7:59 amNo only Olbermann compares people to nazis. Democrats are cowards Comment by Chris
Really?
April 7, 2007: FOX’s Ozanian compares Hillary to Goebbels
MICHAEL OZANIAN (SENIOR EDITOR): hey look, Goebbels who was chief of propaganda for Hitler said if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth. that's Hillary's premise for a campaign. The more money she has, the more it will allow her to get out her lies and keep repeating them and people will begin to think that guess what? Hillary can run the drug industry, she can run the energy industry, she can run the military from Washington. I see money as only being able to help her obtain office.
Video here:
You might wanna do a little fact checking next time Chris.
June 7th, 2007 at 9:13 amHere is the link again. Sorry. and this is only one of many examples.
June 7th, 2007 at 9:17 amTalk about the pot and the freaking kettle.
June 7th, 2007 at 10:29 amYou mean of course the democrats that have actually been in the army...unlike the repubs who stayed home cause they were scared.
June 7th, 2007 at 10:32 amBO SHUDA! Beeska chata wnow kong bantha poodoo! Ho ho hohohohohoooo!
June 7th, 2007 at 10:50 amAs much as I enjoy reading all of you guys calling for Faux to be shut down, I have to disagree. Let the Conservatives have their little orgy of misinformation... When they bring-up silly things they heard from their bestest friend Mr. O'Reilly, it just makes me sound even smarter than I already am. Being a student just starting on my road to a degree in Journalism, I love to pick apart their arguments. I will admit, sometimes, when I'm working in the concierge lounge, Faux news gets switched on, and I'll watch. This is only to further expand the arguments I already make, and I have a tendency to immediately switch the channel to MSNBC or CNNHN to cleanse myself.
As a side note to all of the repugnant conservatives who will no doubt respond in anger to my post, I have a tendency to leave a post, and be done with it. I prefer not to be a coward and argue with people over the internet. I like to look my enemy in the eye (when applicable), and tell him/her just what I really think. It's sad that I'm forced, as of yet, to only post my rebuttle, but believe you me, if I really could, I would love to have a sit-down with some of you conservatives on here, and let you know just what is wrong with what you are saying.
Maybe try subscribing to the BBC, if you really want politically un-biased news reporting. They would have no reason to be partisan when it comes to American subject matter, because they are not in this country and are not (directly) affected by our policies. Also, it will free you all from the terrorist love-fest that is American news.
I wish I could've made my argument more valid, as I feel that there may be some holes in it. Say to me what you will, but you will recieve no response. I've long ago abandoned my hostile nature when it comes to blogs and the such; it does no one any good, and only serves to exacerbate my heart palipitations.
June 7th, 2007 at 11:34 am*~PinkDonut~*, Great Post. I agree wholeheartedly :)
June 7th, 2007 at 11:44 amIsn't this the same Mr Ailes who wouldn't allow Bill O'Reilly to debate George Clooney, at least according to Billy Boy. If Ailes and/or O'Reilly can't face George Clooney, they don't have the spine to face real terrorism, which is a typical reaction of these chickenhawks. If they want to really face terrorism, they should start with the "shock and awe" variety.
June 7th, 2007 at 2:53 pmHey Chris, You seem to be the kinda guy who "gets it." I mean your incredibly well defined and thought out arguments are not just amazing political artifacts, they are in fact poetry. Your sparse word choice and "tell it like its" tough guy style have both enlightned and inspired me.
"liberals cut and run from Fox.They retreated from a retreat.
Liberals will cut and run from Al Qaeda to.
Liberals are cowards"
Chris I feel you might be a prophet "THEY retreated from A Retreat"
June 7th, 2007 at 4:42 pmis a the CAll TO ARMS! A shot across the bow of all those cut and running bastards! A voice to the Voice less. CHRIS I Nominate YOU to be the Rebublican Presidential Candidate! Lead us on to Victory 2008!
When you watch their BS and discuss them as a news source , you are giving them something they do not deserve.
Why does anyone care what Fox republican propaganda comedy programs have to say. They are one of the biggest jokes in our country's history.
June 7th, 2007 at 6:14 pmIf anyone wants to put any effort into Fox's comedy show , it should be to strip them of the "NEW MEDIA" title..
When a station praises draft dodgers (like Bush & Cheney) and condemns the patriotism of War vets (like Kerry & war vets free speech in anti-war demonstrations) need I say more...
Don't know what he means by "can't stand up to FOX". Looks to me like the Democrats are standing up to the FOX Gobbles propaganda network here. Way to go Democrats! To me it resembles spine. Go with a network that can tell a black Bill Jefferson from a John Conyers.
June 8th, 2007 at 6:39 pm