Jeff Trandahl, the gay former clerk of the U.S. House of Representatives, yesterday revealed that “former Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Texas) had long sought to oust him from the job because he is openly gay.”
Fire a man not for his job performance but because he is gay, and replace hime with another not for his job performance but because of his party affiliation.
After the Foley mess, I say we get rid of ALL homosexuals in Congress.
Comment by Jake
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No pass here, Jake!! Explain your reasoning with this. You could have said “After the Foley mess, I say get rid of ALL males/Republicans/whites in Congress”. Why “homosexual”?
To Delay it was like looking in a mirror and he did not like what he saw. Self-loathing homophobe, and a crook to boot.
Remember people, PLEASE IGNORE JAKE the FAKE, he is only here to disrupt the threads, he is an immature loser who gets his kicks by posting totally inane crap. Loser and hated in real life, and hated here more.
Generally, I agree that Jake is not worth a response. However, his comment here is on-topic and relevant. It is also an opening to confront the bigotry of the homosexualists. Thus, I say “no pass”.
Come on Fake, answer my question in #15. Your posts in #20 and 21 are not answers but attempts at diversion. Again, why did you say ALL HOMOSEXUALS should be kicked out of Congress? Should Barney Frank be kicked out because of what Foley did? Why or why not? Explain yourself.
Thank you for validating the use of the “Ignore List” but the only reasons I put anyone on the “Ignore List” are for personal attacks and / or not answering my questions when I answered all of there questions. You may assume any question asked of me on this thread that I ignore is from such a person. For what reason(s) would I be on your “Ignore List”?
Come on, it’s been 20 minutes. What’s the problem? Where’s your “reasoned” answer to my question? Nobody else here wants to discuss anything with you. It’s just you and me. Come on, explain yourself.
I don’t recall being put on your Ignore List. I asked you a pertinent question about your post, respectfully phrased. You have not asked me any questions that I refused to answer.
So, come on, where is your justification and reasoning for the attitude and thinking expressed in your post #12?
Hurry with your response. I’ve only got about ten minutes of lunch time left then I have to be gone. I’d hate to miss your response to me, posted after I’ve gone.
For what reason(s) would I be on your “Ignore List�
Comment by Jake — June 7, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
Because you have no interest in reasoned discussion. Wait — I should give you the benefit of the doubt — you either have no interest in it or you’re not capable of it.
Your posts add nothing to the discussions, for one of the two reasons I mentioned, and your childish “ignore list” is evidence that you’re not willing to deal with real questions. Most of the posters that you seem to have on your “List” are not those who have insulted you so much as those who pursue answers from you when you keep dodging and moving the goalposts.
And for the record, I didn’t “validate” your infantile “Ignore List”. But I do think you are best dealt with on this forum by ignoring you until you start posting something that contributes. I realize that could be a long wait.
Not that I desire to defend Delay but once again an unsubstanciated accusation is put forth as fact here at TP and all you numbskulls get all excited as if it were a fact.
Either answer my question or officially indicate that I am on your Ignore List.
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)
The Ignore List is handy. Jakers can pretend that’s why he hasn’t responded. If we knew anyone who wasn’t on the List, we could ask them to ask Jake to explain his homophobic comment. Of course, then he could just put them on the List and continue to avoid answering. It’s brilliant. In a really childish and stupid way.
Why isn’t Tom DeLay in jail? I thought he’d been indicted in Texas for one of his many crimes. Is his case being handled by one of those “loyal Bushie” federal prosecutors? I’ve been trying to find out what the status is of his case, but had no luck as of yet. Does anyone know? Why is he on TV as a “political” expert?
I just had to do something more important. spit take. You did not scare me away, and you are welcome for listening. I could care less whether those on MY “Ignore List” choose to ignore me or not. However, since you are NOT on my “Ignore List” (yet) I know I’ve answered any of your questions, always in a civil manner, not once calling you infantile. I’ll try once more: Do you think “Ignore Lists” are good for your purpose, but not for mine?
#33 – “Not that I desire to defend Delay but once again an unsubstanciated accusation is put forth as fact here at TP and all you numbskulls get all excited as if it were a fact.” Comment by Troll — June 7, 2007 @ 1:10 pm
Kinda reminds me of most (if not all) Right Wing Blogs. . . . .
Anyone surprised that it’s a Republican that wanted to fire someone for a reason that has nothing at all to do with their performance on the job?
Anyone at all?
Sexual orientation is one of the last “acceptable” reasons to treat people differently for no other reason than they are different.
Equal rights: it’s not just a good idea, it’s what America was founded on. It’s sad that there are those who would seek to deprive people of their rights based on prejudice and innuendo, and not on any facts.
What? Repubie Delay wanted to have a homosexual lose his job, not because of job performance, but because he is gay?
Another plank on the ladder leading to equal rights is that one should not be fired because of sexual orientation. Delay hasn’t gotten that far up the ladder. He is still standing in the dirt (looking for his hammer.)
“For the record, I don’t think America was founded on “equal rights†for homosexuals. What’s next, “equal rights†for incest?”
the country however was founded on no rights for those with dark skin. Is that the America you envision, or is it ok to look at these things through a modern lens?
Two consenting adults should be allowed to live their life as any other american does. With the same protections from discrimination as any other.
It was people, Jake. (All”men” are created equal…) Homosexuals are people, Jake. Just like left handed folks, or redhaired teens, or freckle-faced Marines.
Incest is a crime, and has nothing to do with the discussion.
What’s next, “equal rights” for stupid?
Interesting you brought up “left handed” since the religious rights’ ancestors thought that using the “sinister” hand was a sign of alignment with Satan and families tried to “convert” their left handed offspring to be more “normal” right handers. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Anyone else notice that Jake took the time to respond to my post, but not to the simple, direct question asked him several times by PLC?
Comment by spit take
I guess PLC, one of the most decent commenters on TP, is on the infamous Ignore List. I’m on it — I requested it. :)
But Jake doesn’t really have an Ignore List. He has a weasel response beginning, “For the record……”
…and just for the record, anyone that equates homosexuality with pedophilia is a dolt.
anyone who created an Ignore List to avoid debating (see PLC’s noncombative request for a reasonable Jake response) is a dolt
anyone who claims to be a Korean Vet by cutting and pasting “word for word” from a memorial blog, is an insentive dolt.(I will NEVER let you slide on that one, JakeFake)
Anyone not on my patented Snore List that would like to discuss, feel free to ask (Just for the record, ya know)
Of course we should look at these things through a modern lens — it is indisputable, for instance, that one cannot change his or her race — is “Two consenting adults should be allowed to live their life” REALLY your answer my question: What’s next, “equal rights†for incest?
Emerald:
I never denied that homosexuals are people. Just like murderers, rapists, and thieves. I’m glad you at least agree that “Incest is a crime” because I think at least Crump’s Brother (I hope “Crump” is not his sister) is fine with making that socially acceptable as well. I don’t want “equal rights†for stupid either. Do you?
spit take:
If you don’t understand the concept of “IGNORE” please let me know. Because, unless you answer the question I asked you, you will be added as well.
For the record, I believe I’ve answered EVERY question put to me on this thread by anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” — again, the only reasons I put anyone on the “Ignore List†are for personal attacks (for instance, “he is an immature loser who gets his kicks by posting totally inane crap”) when I never resort to personal attacks and / or not answering my questions when I answered all of their questions — I would have thought it obvious, but perhaps I cannot assume anything anymore, that once someone is on the “Ignore List” I will no longer be answering their questions, even if the question is “am I on the Ignore List?”. That would not be “IGNORING” at least as I understand the concept.
#59 – “ou may be giving them too much credit, to say they are people, too.” Comment by Emerald — June 7, 2007 @ 6:41 pm
Well, I have been accused of being rather liberal in my lumping people into groups. ;-)
I do believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion. But we all know what opinions are like: everyone has one and nobody wants to hear from them. That’s why blogs make such good reading! Everyone’s opinion is heard, no matter how outlandish, archaic, uninfomred, or discredited.
The difference is that I don’t blind myself to my own self importance, as some others have been known to do.
Well I am not surprised that fascist Delay would try to do that deed.
June 7th, 2007 at 11:41 amIt’s only a number…. oh wait.. wrong talking point
June 7th, 2007 at 11:44 amImpossible. That can’t be.
Tom Delay insists he’s like Jesus:
June 7th, 2007 at 11:44 am“Let people see Christ through me.”
“People hate the messenger. That’s why they killed Christ.”
I wish that the media, of any ilk, would stop mentioning this asshole bug man from Sugerland. He should sink into obscurity.
June 7th, 2007 at 11:45 amJeebnuts K. Reist, Delay’s a moron.
June 7th, 2007 at 11:47 amDeLay should have been prosecuted. Oh Wait, he is.
June 7th, 2007 at 11:50 amI need to go back to the world renowned Republican Talking Points [Bullsh*t] Generator.
http://www.duh.org/bullshit/
I just got these gems off of there
“change un-American evildoers”
“expose gay tactics”
“bring back traditional sanctity”
YOU CAN DO IT TOO!
Join us in the Republican Party as we attmept to turn a nation of good hard working people into mindless parrot like automotons.
June 7th, 2007 at 11:50 am“cut back U. N. handouts”
June 7th, 2007 at 11:52 amTrandahl should have bit the bullet and gone out with him. That is what he probably wanted.
June 7th, 2007 at 11:52 amactually, it was probably hot-tub Tom trying to get a clear shot into Foley….
June 7th, 2007 at 11:56 amFire a man not for his job performance but because he is gay, and replace hime with another not for his job performance but because of his party affiliation.
June 7th, 2007 at 12:07 pmoooooo nooooo not because he is gaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy
June 7th, 2007 at 12:08 pmAfter the Foley mess, I say we get rid of ALL homosexuals in Congress.
June 7th, 2007 at 12:09 pmJake > Bush himself would have to leave DC first since he is Gay. Jeff Gannon was his paid male lover.
June 7th, 2007 at 12:11 pmJake
“After the Foley mess, I say we get rid of ALL homosexuals in Congress.”
This shows such ignorance it’s astounding.
Yeah we can’t let homosexual saround anyone because we all know they only want to have sex with children.
Foley is a homosexual. He is also a pedophile. One has nothing to do with the other.
By your logic, if a heterosexual member of congress went after a Page, you would call for all heterosexuals to be thrown out of Congress? Pricelss.
June 7th, 2007 at 12:14 pmAfter the Foley mess, I say we get rid of ALL homosexuals in Congress.
Comment by Jake
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No pass here, Jake!! Explain your reasoning with this. You could have said “After the Foley mess, I say get rid of ALL males/Republicans/whites in Congress”. Why “homosexual”?
June 7th, 2007 at 12:14 pmdelay is an idiot. anyone see him on chris mathhews yesterday???
June 7th, 2007 at 12:15 pmwho is chris so nice to him?
To Delay it was like looking in a mirror and he did not like what he saw. Self-loathing homophobe, and a crook to boot.
Remember people, PLEASE IGNORE JAKE the FAKE, he is only here to disrupt the threads, he is an immature loser who gets his kicks by posting totally inane crap. Loser and hated in real life, and hated here more.
Hating losers like Jake the Fake daily
June 7th, 2007 at 12:16 pmSmoke out homosexual enemies
June 7th, 2007 at 12:17 pmBuck Fush —
Generally, I agree that Jake is not worth a response. However, his comment here is on-topic and relevant. It is also an opening to confront the bigotry of the homosexualists. Thus, I say “no pass”.
June 7th, 2007 at 12:20 pmBetter safe than sorry. All male on male sex with a minor should be fully prosecuted under the law.
June 7th, 2007 at 12:21 pmAll heterosexuals engaging in sex with minors should be prosecuted as well. If anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” wants to discuss, let me know.
June 7th, 2007 at 12:23 pmHow about we all put Jake on the Ignore List?
June 7th, 2007 at 12:27 pmJake
Come on Fake, answer my question in #15. Your posts in #20 and 21 are not answers but attempts at diversion. Again, why did you say ALL HOMOSEXUALS should be kicked out of Congress? Should Barney Frank be kicked out because of what Foley did? Why or why not? Explain yourself.
June 7th, 2007 at 12:27 pmBetter safe than sorry. All male on male sex with a minor should be fully prosecuted under the law.
Comment by Jake — June 7, 2007 @ 12:21 pm
All heterosexuals engaging in sex with minors should be prosecuted as well. If anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†wants to discuss, let me know.
Comment by Jake
Don’t try to weasel out by changing your talking points, Jake. What you said first was:
After the Foley mess, I say we get rid of ALL homosexuals in Congress.
Comment by Jake
One is not the same as the other. Take your homophobic, illogical, asinine statement and SULOGA!!!
June 7th, 2007 at 12:30 pmspit take:
Thank you for validating the use of the “Ignore List” but the only reasons I put anyone on the “Ignore List” are for personal attacks and / or not answering my questions when I answered all of there questions. You may assume any question asked of me on this thread that I ignore is from such a person. For what reason(s) would I be on your “Ignore List”?
June 7th, 2007 at 12:32 pmJake
Come on, it’s been 20 minutes. What’s the problem? Where’s your “reasoned” answer to my question? Nobody else here wants to discuss anything with you. It’s just you and me. Come on, explain yourself.
June 7th, 2007 at 12:33 pmJake
I don’t recall being put on your Ignore List. I asked you a pertinent question about your post, respectfully phrased. You have not asked me any questions that I refused to answer.
So, come on, where is your justification and reasoning for the attitude and thinking expressed in your post #12?
June 7th, 2007 at 12:40 pmJake
Hurry with your response. I’ve only got about ten minutes of lunch time left then I have to be gone. I’d hate to miss your response to me, posted after I’ve gone.
June 7th, 2007 at 12:43 pmFor what reason(s) would I be on your “Ignore List�
Comment by Jake — June 7, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
Because you have no interest in reasoned discussion. Wait — I should give you the benefit of the doubt — you either have no interest in it or you’re not capable of it.
Your posts add nothing to the discussions, for one of the two reasons I mentioned, and your childish “ignore list” is evidence that you’re not willing to deal with real questions. Most of the posters that you seem to have on your “List” are not those who have insulted you so much as those who pursue answers from you when you keep dodging and moving the goalposts.
And for the record, I didn’t “validate” your infantile “Ignore List”. But I do think you are best dealt with on this forum by ignoring you until you start posting something that contributes. I realize that could be a long wait.
Thanks for listening.
June 7th, 2007 at 12:45 pmJake,
Either answer my question or officially indicate that I am on your Ignore List.
June 7th, 2007 at 12:49 pmPLC and Crump’s Brother:
Sorry guys, it looks like I was a little too harsh on poor Jakey. I must have scared him away.
June 7th, 2007 at 1:10 pmNot that I desire to defend Delay but once again an unsubstanciated accusation is put forth as fact here at TP and all you numbskulls get all excited as if it were a fact.
June 7th, 2007 at 1:10 pmEither answer my question or officially indicate that I am on your Ignore List.
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)
The Ignore List is handy. Jakers can pretend that’s why he hasn’t responded. If we knew anyone who wasn’t on the List, we could ask them to ask Jake to explain his homophobic comment. Of course, then he could just put them on the List and continue to avoid answering. It’s brilliant. In a really childish and stupid way.
June 7th, 2007 at 1:18 pmJake > Bush himself would have to leave DC first since he is Gay. Jeff Gannon was his paid male lover.
Comment by Jay Randal
Ooh, that’s not true at all. Gannon was in the WH to see KKKarl.
June 7th, 2007 at 1:56 pmThe real problem here was that the man. Trandahl, rejected Tom’s advances and poor Mr. DeLay had a hissy fit.
June 7th, 2007 at 1:57 pmWhy isn’t Tom DeLay in jail? I thought he’d been indicted in Texas for one of his many crimes. Is his case being handled by one of those “loyal Bushie” federal prosecutors? I’ve been trying to find out what the status is of his case, but had no luck as of yet. Does anyone know? Why is he on TV as a “political” expert?
June 7th, 2007 at 2:03 pmI just had to do something more important. spit take. You did not scare me away, and you are welcome for listening. I could care less whether those on MY “Ignore List” choose to ignore me or not. However, since you are NOT on my “Ignore List” (yet) I know I’ve answered any of your questions, always in a civil manner, not once calling you infantile. I’ll try once more: Do you think “Ignore Lists” are good for your purpose, but not for mine?
June 7th, 2007 at 2:30 pmJake,
I am back. Am I on your Ignore List? If so, why? If not, why have you not answered my question?
June 7th, 2007 at 2:37 pm#33 – “Not that I desire to defend Delay but once again an unsubstanciated accusation is put forth as fact here at TP and all you numbskulls get all excited as if it were a fact.” Comment by Troll — June 7, 2007 @ 1:10 pm
Kinda reminds me of most (if not all) Right Wing Blogs. . . . .
I’m just sayin’.
June 7th, 2007 at 2:39 pmAnyone surprised that it’s a Republican that wanted to fire someone for a reason that has nothing at all to do with their performance on the job?
Anyone at all?
Sexual orientation is one of the last “acceptable” reasons to treat people differently for no other reason than they are different.
Equal rights: it’s not just a good idea, it’s what America was founded on. It’s sad that there are those who would seek to deprive people of their rights based on prejudice and innuendo, and not on any facts.
June 7th, 2007 at 2:44 pmJake
I guess you leave me with no option but to make my own assumptions about your underlying reasoning, attitudes, and thinking.
Anybody NOT on my Ignore List who wants to know what those assumptions are may ask me. LOL
June 7th, 2007 at 2:47 pmWhat? Repubie Delay wanted to have a homosexual lose his job, not because of job performance, but because he is gay?
Another plank on the ladder leading to equal rights is that one should not be fired because of sexual orientation. Delay hasn’t gotten that far up the ladder. He is still standing in the dirt (looking for his hammer.)
June 7th, 2007 at 2:48 pmFor the record, I don’t think America was founded on “equal rights” for homosexuals. What’s next, “equal rights” for incest?
June 7th, 2007 at 2:49 pmFor the record, Jake is a coward who refuses to defend his attitudes and opinions when challenged.
For the record, Jake’s idea of American equal rights is the “right” of everyone to think and act like him.
June 7th, 2007 at 3:08 pmJake,
“For the record, I don’t think America was founded on “equal rights†for homosexuals. What’s next, “equal rights†for incest?”
the country however was founded on no rights for those with dark skin. Is that the America you envision, or is it ok to look at these things through a modern lens?
Two consenting adults should be allowed to live their life as any other american does. With the same protections from discrimination as any other.
June 7th, 2007 at 3:10 pmIt was people, Jake. (All”men” are created equal…) Homosexuals are people, Jake. Just like left handed folks, or redhaired teens, or freckle-faced Marines.
Incest is a crime, and has nothing to do with the discussion.
June 7th, 2007 at 3:11 pmWhat’s next, “equal rights” for stupid?
Emerald
Interesting you brought up “left handed” since the religious rights’ ancestors thought that using the “sinister” hand was a sign of alignment with Satan and families tried to “convert” their left handed offspring to be more “normal” right handers. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
June 7th, 2007 at 3:15 pmI seem to remember reading about that. So is being ambidextrous similar to bisexuality, as far as the sinister connotations?
June 7th, 2007 at 3:20 pmPLC,
I would love to know what your assumptions are about Shakey. Please enlighten me.
June 7th, 2007 at 3:22 pmAnyone else notice that Jake took the time to respond to my post, but not to the simple, direct question asked him several times by PLC?
June 7th, 2007 at 3:23 pmAnyone else notice that Jake took the time to respond to my post, but not to the simple, direct question asked him several times by PLC?
Comment by spit take
Eventually, you too will get on the famous jake ‘Ignore List.”
June 7th, 2007 at 3:36 pmAnyone else notice that Jake took the time to respond to my post, but not to the simple, direct question asked him several times by PLC?
Comment by spit take
I guess PLC, one of the most decent commenters on TP, is on the infamous Ignore List. I’m on it — I requested it. :)
But Jake doesn’t really have an Ignore List. He has a weasel response beginning, “For the record……”
He’s an ass. Ignore HIM.
June 7th, 2007 at 3:53 pm…and just for the record, anyone that equates homosexuality with pedophilia is a dolt.
June 7th, 2007 at 4:06 pmanyone who created an Ignore List to avoid debating (see PLC’s noncombative request for a reasonable Jake response) is a dolt
anyone who claims to be a Korean Vet by cutting and pasting “word for word” from a memorial blog, is an insentive dolt.(I will NEVER let you slide on that one, JakeFake)
Anyone not on my patented Snore List that would like to discuss, feel free to ask (Just for the record, ya know)
Crump’s Brother:
Of course we should look at these things through a modern lens — it is indisputable, for instance, that one cannot change his or her race — is “Two consenting adults should be allowed to live their life” REALLY your answer my question: What’s next, “equal rights†for incest?
Emerald:
I never denied that homosexuals are people. Just like murderers, rapists, and thieves. I’m glad you at least agree that “Incest is a crime” because I think at least Crump’s Brother (I hope “Crump” is not his sister) is fine with making that socially acceptable as well. I don’t want “equal rights†for stupid either. Do you?
spit take:
If you don’t understand the concept of “IGNORE” please let me know. Because, unless you answer the question I asked you, you will be added as well.
June 7th, 2007 at 5:55 pmFor the record, I believe I’ve answered EVERY question put to me on this thread by anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” — again, the only reasons I put anyone on the “Ignore List†are for personal attacks (for instance, “he is an immature loser who gets his kicks by posting totally inane crap”) when I never resort to personal attacks and / or not answering my questions when I answered all of their questions — I would have thought it obvious, but perhaps I cannot assume anything anymore, that once someone is on the “Ignore List” I will no longer be answering their questions, even if the question is “am I on the Ignore List?”. That would not be “IGNORING” at least as I understand the concept.
June 7th, 2007 at 6:02 pm#56 – “I never denied that homosexuals are people. Just like murderers, rapists, and thieves.”
Just like I think that anti-gay people are people too. Just like Nazi’s, Communists, traitors, incestual perverts, and ignorant fascists.
See how much we think alike! ;-)
June 7th, 2007 at 6:29 pmActually, anti-gay homosapiens may well be an unevolved subspecies. You may be giving them too much credit, to say they are people, too.
June 7th, 2007 at 6:41 pm#59 – “ou may be giving them too much credit, to say they are people, too.” Comment by Emerald — June 7, 2007 @ 6:41 pm
Well, I have been accused of being rather liberal in my lumping people into groups. ;-)
I do believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion. But we all know what opinions are like: everyone has one and nobody wants to hear from them. That’s why blogs make such good reading! Everyone’s opinion is heard, no matter how outlandish, archaic, uninfomred, or discredited.
The difference is that I don’t blind myself to my own self importance, as some others have been known to do.
June 7th, 2007 at 7:33 pmEmerald:
One last chance to answer my questions — do you think I am not a human being?
June 7th, 2007 at 7:43 pmUnevolved.
One last chance to hide back under that bridge.
June 7th, 2007 at 10:01 pmFine by me — have a nice life then — does anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” want to discuss the UPDATE above: DeLay’s spokesman denies the report.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:00 amImpossible. That can’t be.
Comment by Angry One — June 7, 2007 @ 11:44 am
Why ? Because one is a cleark and one was Tom Delay and that if he wanted him fired he would have been ?
June 8th, 2007 at 11:02 amMakes sense.