Breaking: Joint Chiefs Chairman Pace replaced.
MSNBC reports, “Pentagon sources are telling NBC’s Jim Miklaszewski that Defense Secretary Gates has replaced Gen. Peter Pace as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff with Adm. Mike Mullen. He is currently the Navy’s chief naval officer.”
UPDATE: Loren Thompson, head of the Lexington Institute think tank, wrote in February: “there is speculation that the widely-liked Mullen is actually being groomed to replace Gen. Peter Pace when he departs as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the fall. Pace’s early departure is said to be related more to the triggering of certain retirement benefits than his close association with the discredited former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.”
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Buh bye, Blinky.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:36 pmOops.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:36 pmWhat happened to Pace? Oh my god maybe he was caught with the hooker Marine Matt Sanchez?
June 8th, 2007 at 12:36 pmMy guess is Pace refused to support nuking Iran.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:37 pmMy guess is that Pace refused to support nuking Iran.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:38 pmAll signs point to the Navy getting more and more influence, the naval bombardment of Iraq must be getting close.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:38 pmBye pete we hardly knew ya!
June 8th, 2007 at 12:38 pmWell, it’s been a good 40 years, General. Enjoy your retirement.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:42 pmrearranging chairs on the deck of teh Titanic…
June 8th, 2007 at 12:44 pmInteresting……
More power to the Navy.
We need to get rid of BushCo immediately.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:49 pmRUCerious, did you mean the bombardment of Iran?
June 8th, 2007 at 12:49 pmWith Tony Blair leaving in a couple of weeks I was wondering if they were going to do this soon (bombing Iran). I doubt that it is an accident or coincident that they replaced Pace with a Navy guy.
How does a job get done if the people doing it are constantly getting replaced. I mean they need to be re-oriented, and need about 6 months on the job to get back up to speed.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:49 pmGeneral Pace is an exceptionally intelligent person. Just because he disagreed with this board’s irrelevant views, doesn’t make his JCS term unsuccessful.
Uh, oh. The PC police are back again to define someone’s legacy!
June 8th, 2007 at 12:49 pmNow Petey can spend more time writing letters of support for convicted felons.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:50 pmGeez, Pace was a real lockstepper and they replaced him. Wow.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:50 pmThe rats are the first to flee the sinking ship…
June 8th, 2007 at 12:51 pmThey need a “rear admiral”
June 8th, 2007 at 12:52 pm“the triggering of certain retirement benefits” — that’s clearly Bushco secret code for “there’s been an opening in the executive levels at Halliburton”…
June 8th, 2007 at 12:52 pm“certain retirement benefits” like maybe getting out before the shit hits the fan? Not going to jail for war crimes?
June 8th, 2007 at 12:54 pmGeez, Pace was a real lockstepper and they replaced him. Wow.
Comment by ForTruth
That’s the worrisome part, in my opinion.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:55 pmmore navy… can only mean one thing…
please lord, whoever, stop these madmen…
now.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:55 pmPeter Pace pissed a pack of Pentagon pals.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:57 pmYou pinheads never considered that Peter Pace isn’t a yes man and Gates leaves a lot to be desired as SecDef. If General Pace is leaving early its due to integrity, character and principles.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:00 pmGenerals who kiss Bush’s butt are never fired, nor replaced, so this guy got caught doing the nasty with another male. GOPers are closeted, and pay for male hookers, but if they get caught they get booted out.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:02 pm“certain retirement benefits”
Snicker…
June 8th, 2007 at 1:02 pmcouldn’t have happenned to a nicer homophobe!
June 8th, 2007 at 1:03 pmLooks like another general getting fired for speaking reality
June 8th, 2007 at 1:04 pmto Bush and Cheney.
That would be illegal. Gates is a civilian and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff is just that. The four top officers from the four branches of service get together and elect a chairman. That’s the way it works. Civilians are ineligible to serve in that capacity by definition.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:05 pmI’m adding this post here hoping it can get its own thread:
Ed Brown and his wife are Plainsfield, NH residents convicted of tax evasion who refuse to surrender to authorities.
They demanded that the government show them the law in writing that they broke and the government could not.
The first video is of a man who walked Ed’s dog today and was shot at, tazered and detained.
http://video.google.com/ videoplay?docid=3083052001159394679&hl=en
The second is a press conference where the US Marshalls don’t mention anything about shooting or tazering this man who offered to walk a dog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK8UZU_2GmE
The Marshalls insist they will arrest anyone attempting to help Ed in any way.
Many people on the web are now pointing to this as the watershed moment of a popular uprising in the USA.
Sorry you have dial up but this is worth watching! There is a great deal more to discuss and TP should start a thread about this!
Comment by freedomrings — June 8, 2007 @ 1:02 pm
June 8th, 2007 at 1:05 pmPace wants to take advantage of retirement benefits before George - love the troops - Bush discontinues all military retirement benefits so that more money can be spent on contractors.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:06 pmIf General Pace is leaving early its due to integrity, character and principles.
Comment by A.A. Cunningham
Yeah, right…….
June 8th, 2007 at 1:07 pmI wonder how much of this has to do with the new intel report in the previous thread.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:09 pmDoes this have anything to do with Pace being one of the people who wrote a letter on Libby’s behalf?
June 8th, 2007 at 1:09 pmhow come there is no stop gap for military leaders who are resposible for this miserable war? they’re all cut and running.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:09 pmHere is the link to that first video on google again…
http://video.google.com/ videoplay?docid=3083052001159394679&hl=en
June 8th, 2007 at 1:10 pmComment by A.A. Cunningham
You make a good point. I’m not sure that Gates knows much about the business he’s currently in.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:10 pm#24, Care to explain your evidence that Pace was caught having sex with a man, or are you just spouting nonsense?
June 8th, 2007 at 1:11 pmThat would be illegal.
Comment by MargaretFA
No, Gates as Sec of Def can replace any of the acting Generals/Admirals.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:11 pmwhy should he be allowed to retire early when the troops in Irak
June 8th, 2007 at 1:11 pmare sent back into battle again and again and again. a true general
would be over there leading the troops.
What are the odds that we’ll, no you guys will be seeing his bright lying face on FOX real soon.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:12 pmThis would be a great time to flood whatever network hires this war mongering ass**** with E Mails tell them that this is just to much.
hitler had the same trouble. couldn’t find anyone as competent as himself
June 8th, 2007 at 1:12 pmComment by A.A. Cunningham
Another point that proves you right: He sidestepped Rumsfeld on the topic of detainee-abuse reporting/prevention during a live press conference, didn’t he?
June 8th, 2007 at 1:13 pmAll these military leaders who are resposible for this miserable war are all cutting and running. Just those poor soldiers who keep getting stopped gap back into service will be left. Hell will be waiting for those chicken hawks.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:13 pmRUCerious-I think you meant Iran??(post#6)
June 8th, 2007 at 1:14 pmWhat are the odds that we’ll, no you guys will be seeing his bright lying face on FOX real soon.
Comment by dras
Yeah, Fox is the perfect forum for Pace’s homophobic rants. =P
June 8th, 2007 at 1:14 pmIs Mullen an incompetent homophobe too?
June 8th, 2007 at 1:15 pm#23
Gates wanted to nominate him again, but the Democrats in the Senate warned against it, so he backed off.
Spineless coward.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:15 pmComment by fistard
He’s not retiring early. He’s been serving at the rank of General now for almost seven years.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:15 pmDamn, it’s like living in the Twilight Zone.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:16 pmAnother fundamentalist Christian bites the dust, but were his homophobic comments the tip of the iceberg for a general who seemed to speak before he thought things through. Not sorry to see him go. He always seem to be a little too handsome and I thought the homophobic comments were, “Methink doth protest too much!”
June 8th, 2007 at 1:16 pmbgc > LOL my suggestion is as good as anybody else’s on here. Pace was not supposed to retire this year, then suddenly he is out. Something dramatic took place to force him out. Pace recently got in trouble for saying something against Gays in the military, but on blog sites it was mentioned that Pace himself might be gayish. I am just putting out a scenario that he got removed for being caught with a guy. That is a kiss of death for GOPers and military generals too.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:20 pmCould it be, that the fact that he nerver got the U.S. casualties number right, be the answer.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:21 pmReplacing Pace must have entailed some fairly major surgery, since Pace’s head has been permanently stuck up George Bush’s ass for so long.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:22 pm#44 Whitey, yup, just a case of fat fingeritis. Duh.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:22 pmComment by m12
Democrats want a cross-dressing, lipstick-puckering JCS Chairman to comfort their spineless, PC souls. Why, m12, should we not give them what they want?
Again, no matter how good of an expert you are in your field, you CANNOT disagree with a Democrat on even a trivial matter, or else your career is DONE.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:23 pmAnother Bush-Bot down for the count!
We will miss you Peter…with your sculpted nose perfectly shaped for inserting into the backsides of your superiors in the White House.
You always looked sheepish in your public appearances, as if you knew what a sell-out and butt kisser you had become.
You were truly a disgrace to the Marine uniform you wore!
June 8th, 2007 at 1:24 pmScrew you Freedom Rings…go somewhere else to spout your right-wing anti-covernment trash. Your post has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:25 pmOff topic but just as scary.. I believe Bush is drinking again:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6733763.stm
At times like these, all we need is a ‘compromised’ incompetent leader.. Who is running the country?
June 8th, 2007 at 1:26 pmCompTROLLER > The only cross dressing guy we know about is Rudy Giuliani, so are you suggesting him to be new Joint Chief of military?
June 8th, 2007 at 1:28 pmComment by CompTROLLER V-1
Any facts to back your inane diatribe?
June 8th, 2007 at 1:29 pmDidn’t think so.
but on blog sites it was mentioned that Pace himself might be gayish.
Pace is anti-Gay in the military, fine that’s his stance, whatever. How come anytime one of those yahoos makes a statement about gays and lesbians this board explodes with completely unfounded claims about their sexual orientation? I mean normally you have some sort of backup to your claims, but the only one you have for this is some guy on some blog said it. I can say anything I want but it’s not a fact.
On a different note. Why would you replace a Career Marine with a Navy guy when your biggest theater is a desert/city?
June 8th, 2007 at 1:31 pmI don’t think you’d be able to distinguish an intelligent person (let alone, an exceptionally intelligent person) from an unintelligent person.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:31 pmAnother Bushie-RAT deserting the sinking ship of this ILLEGAL ADMINISTRATION.
And, with deference to the Stephanie Miller Show, one last chorus of:
“YOU’RE A LYING SACK OF CRAP!”
June 8th, 2007 at 1:32 pmAs long as they can keep shifting the people around they can keep the focus off the real problem, the lack of any real plan. They keep throwing troops and money at Iraq, but it’s like throwing wood on a fire. First of all they need to call it what it is. It isn’t a war, its an occupation. The more we clamp down on it the stronger the resistance. The claim that when the “the Iraqi’s stand up we will stand down” is ludicrous. The Iraqi government is the big head of Oz and the moron Bush is the man behind the curtain that everyone can see.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:32 pmI can’t tell you how many times I watched him stand behind the president at one press announcement or another while Bush piled assaulted the American people, the Constitution, thumbed his nose at the Geneva convention (he a general, charged with guarding the welfare of our fighting men and women) and wondered what this man was made of.
Is Gates a bad man? Part of me hopes he is not and that there is indeed a power struggle going on in the administration that we have no idea of.
Might Pace be a yes man with too close of ties to the president and Gates wants him gone?
June 8th, 2007 at 1:32 pmYes we did. Yes he does, and no, it isn’t.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:33 pmIt’s time someone saw General Pace for what he is. He’s a butt kissing idiot who follows orders regardless of the facts on the ground. I sure General Pace is great in peace time, but in war he stinks. This guy who claimed he’s never let US troops get involved in a civil war because of his experience in Viet Nam sold them right up the river to try to protect his career. When it came down to it he couldn’t stand up the Rumsfeld and couldn’t speak truth to power.
I’m sure he thinks he earned those four stars on his shoulders. But in the end the wasn’t man enough to hold them up. No General worth his own weight should ever put politics ahead of soldiers who are fighting and dying in a real war. I’m been calling for his oster for years because I was a politician, not a real General. The only Generals who have impressed me are the ones who finally stood up like General Basiste and stated the obvious. Any fool who’s ever carried an M16 Rifle and who’s been shot at knows when a war in impossible to win. The very natural of a guerrila war means just what is suggests. They don’t wear uniforms so you can’t tell who’s who. So General Pace explain just how you go about killing the enemy unless he shoots first?
To paraphrase Marlon Brandow from the movie, “On the Waterfront”, “I’m glad what they done to you”.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:36 pmI frankly think they have a plan. They just don’t want the American people to know what the details of that plan are, and they don’t want anyone interfering or trying to stop it.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:37 pmWhat kind of “patriot” quits in the middle of a freekin’ war? And over retirement benefits? George Washington and all of his troops are rolling in their graves. What a schmuck.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:37 pmGeneral Pace was quoted as saying that homosexual acts between individuals was immoral; maybe he got into trouble with the Bushies since his position was specifically limited to individuals and did not exclude groups.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:39 pmComment by Jay Randal
Whatever floats your bloat.
Next, Response to Wayne:
I do know that Pace was quite freakin’ intelligent and capable, serving in a non-operational setting. He gave everyone the best, contrarian advice he could and in no way butt-kissed the President. Its a forgone conclusion that if a nomination for a second term were submitted to the Senate, you would almost certainly have a yawping pack of Democrats seeking to oppose it because of the issue of Gays. Nevermind that Pace has no power to change that law, so his views shouldn’t have been of much worry to anyone. Therefore, it shouldn’t have cost him a second term.
Is that the “inane diatribe” you’re looking for? I wouldn’t rely on Democrats too much for all of your Defense needs.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:40 pmHey, CompTROLLER V-1:
If people were planets, you’d be a gas giant.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:41 pmTundra > most of what you post on TP is 100% rancid baloney, so who cares what you think. Pace would not be the first GOPer to fall for being a closeted hypocrite.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:42 pmVery simple. It makes the option of bombing Iran more likely. Bush is not content to make himself the worst president in US history, he wants to make this country the most destructive in history.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:43 pmMaybe General Pace actually looked into the casualty numbers, with which he was so unfamiliar, and decided he did not want to be in charge of this mess anymore…
As I have said elsewhere, by the time this ship sinks, there will be no rats left on board.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:45 pmComment by smafdy #62
Whatever point there was to that.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:45 pmYeah - you’d rely on the freekin’ morons we’ve got running the show right now. Now matter how you spin it, the current Regime is populated by a bunch of incompetent boobs. You can’t argue it away: These guys need help tying their shoes.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:47 pmComment #72 by smafdy
Hurry! Run downstairs to mommy and repeat your lame joke!
June 8th, 2007 at 1:47 pmExactly.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:49 pmComment by smafdy #77
Bush is not the best, but not the worst thing going on in my life.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:51 pm#51 Jay > I agree, the post was as good as most. It seems my threshold for innuendo and personal attacks in threads is low today, hence my response. When the trolls use these tactics, it doesn’t surprise me as they frequently don’t have facts and reality on their side. We have much better fodder for our attacks.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:52 pmPeter Pace used his office inappropriately to recommend clemency for perjurist Scooter Libby earlier this week (see The Smoking Gun).
Now he’s out.
Good riddance to a political hack who masqueraded as a Marine.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:52 pmComment by smafdy
No, not exactly. Quit overrating yourself. Anybody can take issue with any two words placed together. You’re entitled to your opinion.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:53 pm#6 RUC
June 8th, 2007 at 1:55 pmYou and I are thinking alike today. That was my first thought also.
Even worse than Pace is General Boykin who is in charge of prisoner torture.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:57 pmwell — in an ETHICAL, moral, administration,
one might expect that writing, on official military
stationary, in SUPPORT of a convicted perjurer, and
justic obstructor in a case involving national
security, and the leaking of ocert c.i.a. asset
identites, would get the general CANNED.
but in THIS administration, it SHOULD have
been enough to save his neck from the axe. . .
so — color me puzzled. . .
but if — if his scooter letter
June 8th, 2007 at 1:59 pmaccurately reflects gen. peter pace’s
ability to judge character, we may safely
assume that nothing in iraq is going to
improve significantly, without a change
of administrations. that is to say, if he
feels that serving “the united states govern-
ment extremely well on national security
issues” includes perjury, and obstruction of
justice [note that the letter is dated after
scooter’s conviction!] — then i am reasonably
certain gen. pace was unfit for his current role. . .
he loves the dong
June 8th, 2007 at 1:59 pmScrew you Freedom Rings…go somewhere else to spout your right-wing anti-covernment(SIC) trash. Your post has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
Comment by wagonjak — June 8, 2007 @ 1:25 pm
Good idea wagonjak I posted this post again here:
Ed Brown and his wife are Plainsfield, NH residents convicted of tax evasion who refuse to surrender to authorities.
They demanded that the government show them the law in writing that they broke and the government could not.
The first video is of a man who walked Ed’s dog today and was shot at, tazered and detained.
http://video.google.com/ videoplay?docid=3083052001159394679&hl=en
The second is a press conference where the US Marshalls don’t mention anything about shooting or tazering this man who offered to walk a dog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK8UZU_2GmE
The Marshalls insist they will arrest anyone attempting to help Ed in any way.
Many people on the web are now pointing to this as the watershed moment of a popular uprising in the USA.
Sorry you have dial up but this is worth watching! There is a great deal more to discuss and TP should start a thread about this!
And then I posted it on three other blogs that I go to!
I think the subject at hand works with this one. It complements it nicely like gravy on mashed potatoes!
June 8th, 2007 at 2:00 pmAll signs point to the Navy getting more and more influence, the naval bombardment of Iraq must be getting close.
Comment by RUCerious — June 8, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
You mean Iran don’t you?
June 8th, 2007 at 2:02 pmI’m waaaaay overrated (that’s only my opinion, of course).
June 8th, 2007 at 2:09 pmCompTROLLER V-1….What planet do you live on?…you Idiot.
June 8th, 2007 at 2:17 pmI’ve met Peter Pace. He is a Man amoung men and a true leader of Marines. I wish him fair winds and following seas.
June 8th, 2007 at 2:39 pmSemper Fidelus.
Does this mean “Peter Pace” is now available as a porn name?
June 8th, 2007 at 3:14 pmFor those of you who don’t know Peter Pace….and make disparaging remarks about him
shame on you
for those who know him and have worked with him, he’s a tremendously dedicated and exceptionally bright human being
and attained the rank of four star general in the Marine Corps and served as the first Marine Chairman since its formation in 1949
and why you’re some do-nothing, zero authority armchair quarterback posting garbage on a blog
put your money where your mouth is and change the world if you’re so smart and capable
June 8th, 2007 at 3:29 pmThe Navy has not yet begun to SPEND.
June 8th, 2007 at 4:09 pmWith the three carrier task force groups assembled in the Persian Gulf the new naval chief is the one to handle the bombardment of Iran.
June 8th, 2007 at 4:51 pmThe new operational commander in Iraq is a Navy officer, as will be the new Joint Chief. All or nearly all strategic and tactical criticism of the Iraq campaign comes from Army and Marine officers. Air Force? Who knows, maybe out in the wild blue yonder witnessing for Jesus? Oh yea, before anyone rejoices over much…. the Navy controls sea launch tactical nukes.
June 8th, 2007 at 4:54 pmSee ya, Pacey!
June 8th, 2007 at 5:35 pmSome of you are some serious conspiracy theorists. ROFLMAO Do you have anything else better to do than dream up bizarre theories for why a Navy Admiral is replacing a Marine General? You crack me up
June 8th, 2007 at 6:27 pmDoesn’t anyone remember a few months ago when Peter made the statement about the missiles being found in Iraq with serial numbers from Iran? Peter said that they did not necessarily have had to come from their government & could’ve been left-overs, gotten from another way……..that we should not blame Iran. The Republicans are looking for some reason, any reason to invade Iran…..WMD’s, yellow cake, anything at all. Gen. Pace would not go along with it. He served in Viet Nam. He knows what a war can do to people first hand. He was one of the last few good men in the Bush Administration. As George W. Trump must’ve said, “Peter, YOU’RE RETIRED!”
June 8th, 2007 at 7:34 pmGood luck to you Peter!
#4 (fascism rising), Yes, there is strong evidence from mutliple reliable sources that Pace (along with a significant number of other General Officers) stood in the way of Bush pre-emptively nuking Iran in February.
Additionally, Pace must have infuriated the Bush ‘nuke Iran’ cabal by going on public record with the media, and by communicating a memo to his senior services command that, “It is the absolute responsibility of everybody in uniform to disobey an order that is either illegal or immoral.” Pace made this very public shot across the Bush neocon’s bow fo war planning for nuking Iran in February, reminding the US officer corp that they would be guilty of Nuremberg war crimes for “following orders” that killed hundreds of thousands or millions.
Paul Craig Roberts wrote in “CounterPunch”, that,. “There is absolutely no doubt that Bush-Cheney and the neoconservative nazis are planning revenge against General Pace.”
Pace was also at the center of what has become known as the ‘military mutiny’ of many staff officers threatening to resign en mass, if Bush/Cheney proceeded with CONPLAN 8022 or any similar StratCom plan for launching a preemptive (or false flag contrived) nuclear attack on Iran, similar to a ‘big bang’ Bay of Tonkin incident.
There are many reasons to be very very concerned about the Bush Empire’s move now to cut Pace off at the knees, and intimidate other general officers from ever again considering refusing to follow orders to nuke anyone from this ‘Vichy American” global corporate Empire and their Commander in Chimp.
Installation of Fallon and Mullen form the yet un-bloodied Navy and the loony StartCom Command insures that when Bush schedules the next date to nuke Iran that it can’t be derailed, as it was this February.
God help us all, our children and our grand children.
June 8th, 2007 at 8:42 pmI just noticed that Adm. Mike ‘mad dog’ Mullen was the one who nouthed off when the 15 Bristish sailors were taken, and he basically said, ‘if it had been US sailors we would have started a shooting war’.
Wow, what a great, level-headed guy to have as Bush’s Cahirman of Joint Chiefs —- great that is to start a nuclear WWIII.
June 8th, 2007 at 10:13 pmAlan: Thanks for your information &clear thinking. I agree with you that with Mad Dog in charge we will have the excuse we need to go into Iran. I see a big ship getting closer & closer to Iran, taunting them until they have to respond. The mad cowboy is now in Germany at the G8 Conference trying to persuade them to do nothing to stop global warming (aka climate change). God help us all is right.
June 9th, 2007 at 12:03 pmNot only does the Bush fascist cabal want a Chairman and Vice Chair of Joint Chiefs that will ‘push the button’ when they next order a nuclear war on Iran (which Pace wouldn’t do in February), but the second essential reason for replacing Pace is that if he were re-nominated, and appeared before Congress there is at least some distinct possibility that some Senator on the Armed Services Committee (read Kennedy or WEBB) might ask something like this:
“Well, General Pace, there was guite a bit of discussion this February about the possibility of the Bush administration launching an attack on Iran, and as I note here from several reliable sources, including a memo that you yourself issued, there was a great deal of underlying tension among the Senior Military Officers regarding this possibility of a second ‘preemptive’ attack by the Bush administration in the Middle East on another country, Iran.”
“In fact, there was a great deal of talk in the mainstream media and here in Washington itself about a threat of senior military resignations if the Bush administration tried to launch a second attack in the Middle East on Iran instead of Iraq this time in, as I said, February of this year. Now General Pace, as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, I have to ask you what your position was on nay of this talk about launching a war on Iran this February. I’m sure you are aware of what I am talking about. You seemed to be very resistant to any such preemptive war plans, yourself — and we thank you for your restraint, General — but we would like to know more about that timeframe of February of this year, and the professional military commands’ reaction to this heavily reported difference of opinion between the military and the Bush administration about any talk of launching an attack on Iran. And, General, in anticipation of your ‘good soldier’ reply to my question touching on confidential information, let me just say that I myself and several other Senators on this Committee would be entirely willing to continue this questioning in ‘Executive session’ with regard to any security issues.”
June 9th, 2007 at 1:26 pmIt certainly looks like a cozy bipartisan scheme of John Warner the Bush administration, along with DemocRATS Carl Levin, Hillary Clinton, and Harry Reid insuring that Peter Pace will never have the chance to openly discuss the well known secret of the US military’s high command threatening to resign this February if the Bush administration went ahead with their plan to launch preemptive war on Iran.
Looks like the senior sycophants and pimps of both phony parties of this global corporate Empire have every reason to cooperate in keeping a lid on this schocking reality of imperial intrigue and the Roman legions’ (oops, I mean the US military’s) confrontation with the Emperor.
Hillary, Levin et al seem to be willing to keep a tight lip for this fascist corporate Empire — but. of course, their main concern is being the next Emperor or Emperess.
June 9th, 2007 at 1:47 pmHey
Maybe he’ll be selling Taliban Rollon to Osama so Osama can once
June 10th, 2007 at 4:34 amagain smell like shiite. He’ll be at the downtown Wal-Green
in Kabul.
I am impressed with Gates for replacing Pace. Pace is simply a kiss asss who only told Bush what he wanted to hear and did nothing to help get our troops out of Iraq. He was only focused on what he could get for himself, as most Republicans are. I say good riddens to Pace and my heart goes out to Gates who is trying to do some good for our country while being undermined by Cheny and Bush. What a mess the Republicans have made of our Country!
June 10th, 2007 at 10:33 amI agree with the Bush-Cheney plan to nuke Iran. They want nukes so let’s give ‘em to them! If Pace can’t follow orders he should be replaced.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:44 pmGod help us. Bush has led us & the world to disater.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:01 pmIs there a military revolt going on? It may be that those military affiliated with the neo-cons are all being expelled. Lets hope so.
June 10th, 2007 at 9:38 pmAre some of you living in the real world?
June 15th, 2007 at 4:57 pmI am writing to express my dismay, shock, and revulsion of your comments against our Joint Chief of Staff Chairman Peter Pace. He is probably one of the finest examples of military genius, and at least he is leaving office with his integrity, moral compass, and character in tact… more than I can say for you or some of you leftist liberals in this forum!!! You will be held accountable for the vicious and acerbic comments you have made against our public officials; short of God’s Grace, I predict calamity for this nation (and you!) if your unrighteous opinions continue and prevail. May you find mercy and TRUTH!
Pace’s early departure is said to be related more to the triggering of certain retirement benefits than his close association with the discredited former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.â€
Why would ThinkProgress bother with the truth when they can traffic in character assassination and base slander? I await your retraction with….
Oh nevermind. That will happen when hell freezes over.
You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
From the Associated Press:
Marine Gen. Peter Pace said that he had turned down an offer to voluntarily retire rather than be forced out as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
To quit in wartime, he said, would be letting down the troops.
Gen. Pace, responding to a question from the audience after he spoke at the Joint Forces Staff College in Norfolk on Thursday night, said he first heard that his expected nomination for a second two-year term was in jeopardy in mid-May.
Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates on June 8 announced Gen. Pace was being replaced.
“One thing that was discussed was whether or not I should just voluntarily retire and take the issue off the table,” Gen. Pace said, according to a transcript released yesterday by his office at the Pentagon.
“I said I could not do that for one very fundamental reason,” which is that no soldier or Marine in Iraq should “think — ever — that his chairman, whoever that person is, could have stayed in the battle and voluntarily walked off the battlefield.
“That is unacceptable as a leadership thing, in my mind,” he added.
Gen. Pace, whose current term ends Oct. 1, said he intended to remain on the job until then. Navy Adm. Michael Mullen has been announced as President Bush’s choice to succeed Gen. Pace, who is the first Marine ever to hold the military’s top post.
A Vietnam veteran, Gen. Pace indicated in his Norfolk comments that his experience in that war colored his decision not to quit voluntarily.
“The other piece for me personally was that some 40 years ago I left some guys on the battlefield in Vietnam who lost their lives following Second Lieutenant Pace,” he said. “And I promised myself then that I will serve this country until I was no longer needed — that it’s not my decision. I need to be told that I’m done.
“I’ve been told I’m done.”
June 16th, 2007 at 12:27 pm