DoJ Legal Counsel Contradicts Gonzales, Suggests Other Spying Programs Exist
DoJ Legal Counsel Contradicts Gonzales, Suggests Other Spying Programs Exist
The House Judiciary subcommittee on the Constitution held a hearing on Thursday to examine the administration’s specious arguments about the legal authority it has asserted to conduct warrantless wiretapping of Americans.
Steven Bradbury, the principal deputy assistant attorney general and the head of the Office of Legal Counsel, testified before the committee. Under questioning from Rep. Mel Watt (D-NC), Bradbury claimed that former Attorney General John Ashcroft’s reservations about signing onto the White House’s domestic spying efforts in 2004 were actually in reference to a different spying program than the one President Bush has revealed:
REP. WATT: Mr. Bradbury, did former Attorney General Ashcroft express reservations, legal reservation about some aspect — whatever they were; I’m not even going to get into that — of the surveillance program?
MR. BRADBURY: Congressman, the attorney general has indicated that, as you might expect with complicated national security matters, disagreements arose about aspects of intelligence activities, the details of operations and intelligence activities that are not public, that remain highly classified –
REP. WATT: I’m not asking you to make anything public. I’m asking you, does that mean that the former attorney general had some reservations about — legal reservations about some aspects of the program, Mr. Bradbury?
MR. BRADBURY: Well, all I’ll say is what the attorney general has said, which is that disagreements arose, disagreements were addressed and resolved; however, those disagreements did not — were not about the particular activities that the president has publicly described, that we have termed the Terrorist Surveillance Program.
Bradbury’s testimony contradicts what Alberto Gonzales said just last week. Gonzales claimed that former Deputy Attorney General James Comey’s testimony about Ashcroft’s reservations related to the “program which the president confirmed to the American people sometime ago.”
So, if Gonzales is telling the truth, Bradbury misled Congress under oath. If Bradbury is telling the truth, it means that Gonzales has again lied about the controversy surrounding the administration’s spying efforts. Moreover, if Bradbury is correct that Ashcroft’s disagreements were not about the NSA warrantless wiretapping program, that must mean other spying programs exist.
UPDATE: In July 2006, Bradbury testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee and claimed “the president is always right.” Watch it:
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… that must mean other spying programs exist.
I’d bet my lunch money on that.
June 9th, 2007 at 1:02 pmYeah, we’re talking about the really secret spying program, the one that if you knew about it, they’d have to kill you.
June 9th, 2007 at 1:05 pmI am willing to bet that there are a lot of “spying programs” the Bush Crime Family has created that we know nothing about. I often wonder about the people who are involved in these programs. Don’t they care about what this is doing to their country. Are they really all Republic lemmings? I wonder how those people sleep at night knowing that by keeping silent they are destroying this once great nation.
June 9th, 2007 at 1:07 pmHow much MORE spying do these wankers need to do?
And if they’re doing that much spying, can they tell me where my nail clippers are?
June 9th, 2007 at 1:11 pmI wonder if the targets of the super secret spy program are in the opposition party?
June 9th, 2007 at 1:11 pmreading these posts, particularly the one about whitehouse, spurred me to go back and take a look at the incredible visual whitehouse used in the april hearing that clearly illustrated his point about the vastly expanded white house protocal in dealing with the justice department… when i first saw it, my reaction was that it must mean complete chaos, but now i see it as a possible deliberate attempt at obfuscation…
June 9th, 2007 at 1:15 pmAnd, yes, I DO take it personally
Of course they do, they have to - you know what a bloody and violent history we vegans have…
Sheesh
June 9th, 2007 at 1:29 pm“the [P]resident is always right”.
LOL Not this one;unless he means ‘right’ as in right wing crazy neocon,hellbent on destroying not only Iraq but our country as well.
June 9th, 2007 at 1:32 pmOff topic but intereting:
McCain Without Money
by Robert Novak
Posted: 06/08/2007
George W. Bush’s 2004 campaign fund-raisers and contributors are being bombarded with appeals for money by Sen. John McCain’s heavy-spending, money-short 2008 campaign.
McCain is concentrating heavily on the rich target of lawyers and lobbyists in Washington, D.C. They have been invited to multiple McCain fund-raising events held in the nation’s capital, currently a $1,000-a-ticket reception June 26 at the Capitol Hill Club with a potential “event co-chair” asked to raise $50,000. A large percentage of the Bush fund-raising team remains uncommitted, a signal that the Republican establishment is not satisfied with the present field seeking the party’s nomination.
McCain’s money-raisers are hard put to reach the $10 million goal set for the second quarter of 2008 by the June 30 deadline, after collecting $12 million in the first quarter. McCain raised $2 million in April and $3 million in May, and is expected to reach $2-3 million in June — falling short of the $10 million goal and of what his opponents have raised.
June 9th, 2007 at 1:36 pmI wonder how those people sleep at night knowing that by keeping silent they are destroying this once great nation.
Comment by Kate Henry — June 9, 2007 @ 1:07 pm
Exact same thoughts I had while viewing the photographs in the museum at Dachau Concentration Camp, the thoughts grew worse when I saw the crematory still filled with the ashes of the victims of authoritarianism. And the trolls want to tell us we have no basis for comparing Bush to Hitler? What really is the difference anymore?
Events following Reichstag burning = events following 9/11
Dachau = Gitmo
Enabling Bill = Patriot Act
Hitler expands German Army = Bush expands US military
Gestapo = Homeland Security
Hitler appoints Nazis to authority = Bush, Cheney and Gonzales appoints Republican lackeys to positions of authority
Guernica = Iraq
To see what we can expect next, here’s a timeline:
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERchron.htm
June 9th, 2007 at 1:41 pm“THE PRESIDENT IS ALWAYS RIGHT”
Actual quote at the end of the clip worth repeating by acting attorney general Steve Bradbury;
“THE PRESIDENT IS ALWAYS RIGHT”
strikingly familiar to
“THE FUHRER IS ALWAYS RIGHT”
And these brownshirt repukes wonder why we are disgusted and revolted by their authoritarian antithesis of democracy. GOP mantra Party before nation.
June 9th, 2007 at 1:48 pmActual quote at the end of the clip worth repeating by acting deputy attorney general Steve Bradbury; (still abhorent and anti-American)
June 9th, 2007 at 1:50 pmOff topic but:
Now they are having riots in Rome because Bush is there.
June 9th, 2007 at 1:51 pmI can’t say that I blame them.
“THE PRESIDENT IS ALWAYS RIGHTâ€
Is that like the infallibility of the Pope?
June 9th, 2007 at 1:54 pmIf it is - God help us!
KKKarl Rove and Darth Cheney think that spying on Americans and political rivals is necessary and their unconstitutional right…the 28%ers go along with it out of their chickenshit fear.
June 9th, 2007 at 1:58 pmDamn straight they do!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I coulda told you that!
And there’s not a damn thing you can do about it!!!!!!!!!!!
June 9th, 2007 at 1:58 pmTypical MO of CYA! It’s the old “bait and switch” scenario - au contraire….that was not the spying program we were talking about….yeah, right! And if you believe that one, I’ve got some primo swampfront to sell you in Biloxi!
June 9th, 2007 at 2:01 pmTo even be bantering the concept of “dual illegal spying programs” about is tantamount to psychopathology. Of course, they’re both far from “legal”!
June 9th, 2007 at 2:02 pmIf you recall, Admiral Poindexter was fired for letting slip that a massive surveillance program was to be unloosed on the American people (circa 2002). Even republicans expressed outrage, and the administration swore it would never, ever do such a thing. Ever, cross their black little hearts. Wanna bet they had their fingers crossed?
June 9th, 2007 at 2:02 pm“Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.â€
Michael Rivera
June 9th, 2007 at 2:03 pmMr. President, why is there always somebody new bashing your favorite Mexurrito for their 15-oodles of fame?
June 9th, 2007 at 2:04 pm‘Fredo isn’t “lying”, not the kind of biblical fire and brimstone lying he thinks Bill Clinton committed. ‘Fredo was lying about something important. ‘Fredo was fibbing because his don told him he had to in order to protect the family.
Another can of worms we need to open concerns where Bandar Bush put that $2.0 billion he allegedly received from the Brits for “helping” the Saudis buy those military aircraft.
It was supposedly first paid into his US accounts, including the ones at Riggs in DC. Did anyone in the USG get their cut? How? Who’s enforcing those elaborate anti-money laundering rules that Mr. Bush says he uses to stop terrorists from getting their cash? Who’s your momma now?
June 9th, 2007 at 2:04 pmAnd if they’re doing that much spying, can they tell me where my nail clippers are?
Comment by Zooey
Third drawer on the left, Zooey. Somewhere near the back.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:04 pmBush should only be allowed to hire this idiot, Monica Goodling and the other air heads he stuffed the Justice Dept. with as his own personal attorneys when the time comes to fight impeachment. If they’re good enough for the Country they should be good enough for him.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:08 pmIf Comey is correct that the top thirty or so Justice Dept lawyers were going to resign en masse over their refusal to re-authorize Shrub’s domestic spying program(s), you can bet the farm that there was more than one and that they grossly violated US law. Who wants to bet the farm that KKKarl kept his mits off all the juicy data those trunk line and satellite intercepts were collecting?
June 9th, 2007 at 2:08 pm“How much MORE spying do these wankers need to do?
Comment by Zooey — June 9, 2007″
Whatever it takes to protect your sorry *ss!
June 9th, 2007 at 2:10 pm[…]
And if they’re doing that much spying, can they tell me where my nail clippers are?
Comment by Zooey — June 9, 2007 @ 1:11 pm
excellent… perfect mix of humor and truth with a heavy dash
of common-sense, real-life observation…
any stand up clubs in your town? … seriously…
perfect weather here to be outside… nothing strenuous though…
the amount of whiskey i can easily suffer decreases with age…
it’s now only 2… but it was a good, fun celebration…
see yas…
June 9th, 2007 at 2:12 pmDon’t worry, there’s going to be a no confidence vote.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:13 pmWhatever it takes to protect your sorry *ss!
Comment by michael — June 9, 2007 @ 2:10 pm
Illegally spying on American citizens does not protect me. My weapons do.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:20 pm– Humorist Will Rogers, on Pres. Woodrow Wilson’s ability to take a joke, a trait not shared by all his successors.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:28 pmYes the Bush Regime is even spying on us posters on TP.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:30 pmYes the Bush Regime is even spying on us posters on TP.
Comment by Jay Randal — June 9, 2007 @ 2:30 pm
But Jay, all Americans are part of the Bush Regime. Bush is our President.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:31 pmThe exodus from Mr. Bush’s ship of state, especially his “Justice” Dept, may be enough to populate the Holy Land, but as Scott Horton at Harper’s eloquently points out, it’s those who remain on his Ship of Fools that we should worry about most.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:36 pmEvery instance of illegal spying on Americans is a felony. I do believe they call that an impeachable offense.
Just sayin’
June 9th, 2007 at 2:37 pmEvery instance of illegal spying on Americans is a felony. I do believe they call that an impeachable offense.
Just sayin’
Comment by AkaDad — June 9, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
Unless done so by the President, in which case it is not illegal. If the President does it, that means it’s not illegal.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:40 pmEvery instance of illegal spying on Americans is a felony. I do believe they call that an impeachable offense.
Just sayin’
Comment by AkaDad
Screw impeachment. We’re talking flat out felonious behavior here. And yes, I suspect the FBI/NSA/CIA/alphabet soup of your own choice is taking notes as we talk…
June 9th, 2007 at 2:40 pm“Unless done so by the President, in which case it is not illegal.”
I have figured out which President our little troll is trying to be now. He is Richard Nixon, who resigned because he thought the same thing.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:42 pmUnless done so by the President, in which case it is not illegal. If the President does it, that means it’s not illegal.
Comment by Mr. President
Ah yes… the “Nixon Defense”… hmmm… whatever became of Dick? OH, THAT’S right, he resigned to avoid impeachment… DOH!!!
June 9th, 2007 at 2:42 pmHi fives, Spudge_Boy… great minds think alike!
June 9th, 2007 at 2:44 pmComment by the republic of stupidity — June 9, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
is gay with
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 9, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
June 9th, 2007 at 2:47 pmI don’t see what the big deal is. Only people having naughty sex worry about 24/7 illegal surveillance.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:48 pmSo which “spy program” are we actually talking about…..the known illegal one or the unknown illegal one?? Either way: they’re both highly illegal. Nixon learned this the hard way and so will Bush when he is impeached for it.
This is precisely why the FISA court was instituted - to prevent the abuse of the ability to obtain information on it’s citizens.
Wasn’t that long ago that Bushitco went on the tube and proudly announced something to the effect that “we do not spy on our citizens without bringing each case before the FISA court lawfully”…. or am I just imagining that?? Surely, someone out there must have the clip or sound bite of that BOLD FACED LIE!
Now Ashcroft is attempting to exonerate himself by saying that it was the “other illegal spy program” to which he strenuously objected. As far as I can tell, Ashcroft and the entire Bush Cabal are in serious dooky right now because regardless of how you dice it, both programs which are not documented before the FISA Court are totally and unequivocally and patently ILLEGAL!
June 9th, 2007 at 2:49 pmI believe it’s time for one serious, honest prosecutor to take on Bush frontally on this one. If the Congress doesn’t have the balls to do so, then it’s time someone surfaces (with a shred of integrity) and brings about charges against Bush directly for this highly “illegal” program. Then it’s off to “IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS” and his ultimate hurling from office.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:50 pmanother smirking ape - how many more!
June 9th, 2007 at 2:51 pmIf this does not occur and occur very quickly, the rule of law in this country will no longer be applicable to ANY citizen or illegal and it will be total “anarchy”.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:52 pmComment by the republic of stupidity — June 9, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
is gay with
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 9, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
Comment by Mr. President
Oh, there, there, there, Mr P… revealing your personal prejudices again? Or are you projecting, again? You’re the one who wanted to peddle “crack” to neo-cons.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:53 pmWhy parse words and take more testimony when it’s clear that either program is “highly illegal” and the reason why the FISA rules were instituted. Anything else is simply mental masturbation at this point.
Impeach them all!
June 9th, 2007 at 2:53 pmI don’t see what the big deal is. Only people having naughty sex worry about 24/7 illegal surveillance.
Comment by Alex — June 9, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
What the fukc are talking about!?!?!
Is this a joke?!?!?!
June 9th, 2007 at 2:55 pmOh, there, there, there, Mr P… revealing your personal prejudices again? Or are you projecting, again? You’re the one who wanted to peddle “crack†to neo-cons.
Comment by the republic of stupidity — June 9, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
Hell yeah, I did. How do think Marion Berry got hooked?
June 9th, 2007 at 2:56 pmComment by Mr. President — June 9, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
Is a stupid fu*k who thinks the president is a king. What a dip sh!t.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:57 pmHell yeah, I did. How do think Marion Berry got hooked?
Comment by Mr. President
Probably the same way Rush got hooked on hilbilly heroin…
June 9th, 2007 at 3:03 pmAnything else is simply mental masturbation at this point.
Impeach them all!
Comment by veritas
Hey, trolls have feelings too, I think… well, maybe not. Nah, can’t be true. Sorry, veritas… you got it right.
June 9th, 2007 at 3:04 pmWell back in those pre-9/11 days when America used to have a Constitution a story like this would piss me off, but not now.
On a related note, does anyone know where i can go to get my kool-aid injection?
June 9th, 2007 at 3:06 pmdoes anyone know where i can go to get my kool-aid injection?
Comment by ScrewBush
Be careful w/ talk like that. You might get Mr. President excited.
June 9th, 2007 at 3:12 pmOn a related note, does anyone know where i can go to get my kool-aid injection?
Comment by ScrewBush — June 9, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Yeah, Homie.
How mucha want dis time, G?
June 9th, 2007 at 3:16 pmIt states there are 55 comments but I can only see 21.
June 9th, 2007 at 5:29 pmI have figured out which President our little troll is trying to be now. He is Richard Nixon, who resigned because he thought the same thing.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 9, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
depends on the topic, spudgeboy…
hell, the other day it went from bill to hillary in one post…
it really thinks it’s so very clever…
just a silly young punk… drop out, at that…
June 9th, 2007 at 5:36 pma real loser…
I have figured out which President our little troll is trying to be now. He is Richard Nixon, who resigned because he thought the same thing.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 9, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
depends on the topic, spudgeboy…
hell, the other day it went from bill to hillary in one post…
it really thinks it’s so very clever…
just a silly young punk… drop out, at that…
a real loser…
Comment by katy — June 9, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
That’s right!!!!!!!!!
I’m the Metaprogressive future of your sorry little world, bitches.
Get used to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 9th, 2007 at 5:50 pmComment by Mr. President
You got krunk?
June 9th, 2007 at 5:53 pmMr. President is the WAVE of the future
CompTROLLER V-1 (cue “Mr. Roboto”)
June 9th, 2007 at 5:55 pmToo many lawyers, so little time.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:01 pmThird drawer on the left, Zooey. Somewhere near the back.
Comment by gummitch
Thanks, dear.
Pick up your socks….
June 9th, 2007 at 6:12 pmexcellent… perfect mix of humor and truth with a heavy dash
of common-sense, real-life observation…
any stand up clubs in your town? … seriously…
Comment by katy
Heh. The problem is this — in order to overcome my fear of public speaking, I have to drink so much that I can’t stand up.
Oy….
June 9th, 2007 at 6:15 pmIs there something wrong with this board? It’ll refresh new comments only when I submit one myself.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:16 pmImprune Gonzalez!
June 9th, 2007 at 6:21 pm“Our concern here is with Gonzo only and nothing else;
Gonzo alone and nothing further;
solely Gonzo,
and besides Gonzo… nothing.
What is this Nothing?
Does the Nothing exist only because the Not, i.e. the Negation, exists?
Or is it rather, the other way around?
Does the Not and Negation exist only because the Nothing exists?
Where do we seek the Nothing?
How do we find the Nothing?
What about this Nothing?
The Nothing itself nothings.”
- mh
June 9th, 2007 at 6:26 pmBut I digress and the topic was?
June 9th, 2007 at 6:35 pm#6 - profmarcus
Excellent graphic — shows exactly how messed up the DoJ is under this administration.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:38 pmany stand up clubs in your town? … seriously…
Comment by katy
Heh. The problem is this — in order to overcome my fear of public speaking, I have to drink so much that I can’t stand up.
Oy….
Comment by Zooey — June 9, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
oh yea… i can relate…
you should keep a record of your zingers though…
June 9th, 2007 at 6:42 pmyou just may have a change of spine (heh) someday…
…
Imapple Gonzalez!
June 9th, 2007 at 6:45 pmoh yea… i can relate…
you should keep a record of your zingers though…
you just may have a change of spine (heh) someday…
…
Comment by katy
Yeah, I bought my last spine at Noodles R Us…. :)
June 9th, 2007 at 6:46 pmImbanana Gonzalez!
June 9th, 2007 at 7:10 pmLawyers always find a way to contradict each other.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:21 pmImgrape Gonzalez!
June 9th, 2007 at 7:42 pmImcherry Gonzalez!
June 9th, 2007 at 8:03 pm* * *
jeez - how did i miss this?
No Confidence Vote on Alberto Gonzales Monday
By: Nicole Belle @ 2:33 PM - PDT
Democratic Caucus’s Senate Journal
Today, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-NY) announced that a vote of no confidence in Attorney General Alberto Gonzales will be held this Monday:
“If all senators who have actually lost confidence in Attorney General Gonzales voted their conscience, this vote would be unanimous.â€
“However, the President will certainly exert pressure to support the Attorney General, his longtime friend. We will soon see where people’s loyalties lie.â€
People for the American Way has a petition you can sign
that will be given to the Senate on Monday.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/
June 9th, 2007 at 8:12 pm.
Whatever it takes to protect your sorry *ss!
Comment by michael #26
BOO!
…you scary bi*ch…
June 9th, 2007 at 8:51 pmU.S. Department of Injustice
June 9th, 2007 at 8:54 pmComment by katy #76
Thanks for the link katy…
…I signed the petition…
…also forgot to thank you for that link to Scott Ridder’s…
…magnificent treatise on truthout.org…
…”Repudiation”…
…EVERYONE should read it…
…maybe you can post that link again…
…it’s well worth the time…
…Thanks again…
June 9th, 2007 at 8:57 pmwow, big papa… i barley remember posting that…
still not sure if I can take the credit, but i do remember
reading that article… found it again:
Repudiation, Not Impeachment
By Scott Ritter
Truthdig . Thursday 31 May 2007
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/053107F.shtml
and, you’re welcome!
June 9th, 2007 at 9:50 pm…
Bush is VERY Evil……….along w/ all other elephants…..they NEED removed!!!!!!!
No one individual in the Congress understands the “EXTREME spying” that has gone on to the American public, namely Military families.
They spy on your kids. The telephone tapping was so apparent that our 11 old could tell it was happening from the clicking. The hang - up calls.
ALL of our emails were tagged and read. We recieved advertisements in our emails within 24 hours on items stated on OUR telephone.
We get emailS for “DOVE products’” all the time.
We get emails for ” TIDE ” all the time. You can goggle this word word up and see what it is. SHocking.
Our bank records were gone through, right down to every check we wrote out of our checking acct. I have been with the same bank , same account since 1981. And a bank employee that has known me for years told me that our government was spying on us through all banking records. We are a regular family like you, just we have a loved one in the us military.
Every flight home last year our BLANK made he was hassled at airports.
Now I ask everyone here on this site to pray for Alex and Bryon the 2 missing soldiers in Iraq. And pray and hope for a miracle for both of them.
Believe me the Democrats (most) are trying very hard to “TURN” this very bad situation around and end the war. Further, by ending the war ends the commodity SURGE.
Sincerely,
The Cat,
Inductive ~ Deductive
June 9th, 2007 at 10:11 pmkaty, thanks for the link, now in my faves.
June 9th, 2007 at 10:45 pmyou rock gal!
DoJ Legal Counsel Contradicts Gonzales, Suggests Other Spying Programs Exist
Except that wouldn’t be contradicting Gonzales.
You are talking about comments Gonzales made somewhere that doesn’t matter last week as opposed to his answers given in sworn testimony.
You’ve also bothered to post video of testimony here which isn’t from Gonzales.
Why not post a video of Gonzales’ testimony on the NSA spying where over and over and over again he was asked about the legality and scope of domestic spying efforts and each and every time he specified in his replies that “this specific program” didn’t break the law, was authorised, was under FISA, etc, etc, etc.
This was Gonzales telling you, under oath, that there were other domestic spying programs that he didn’t want to answer questions about.
The specific lack of any followup question in each and every instance requesting him to explain why he was qualifying his answers in such a restrictive way was the committee questioning him telling you that they weren’t up for that job.
June 9th, 2007 at 10:54 pmGeez, Kilo, I guess it only matters if Gonzalez is under oath? If he isn’t we can assume he is lying?
June 10th, 2007 at 12:16 amRay Bradbury spins a better story than Stevie.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:23 amGeez, Kilo, I guess it only matters if Gonzalez is under oath?
Comment by JPark — June 10, 2007 @ 12:16 am
Correct. Although it wouldn’t even matter if he lied if nobody noticed. As I said, nobody noticed what he did say nor bothered to follow it up.
More to the point though, why have the hearings if this is your question ?
June 10th, 2007 at 12:57 amWhy not take no action against him for lying somewhere other than under oath and why not find out this shit by sheer chance weeks later rather than when given the opportunity to question him in hearings, on the record, under oath.
Again, Kilo, it only matters if Gonzo is under oath? You don’t care if you are lied to otherwise?
June 10th, 2007 at 1:40 amI already said that was correct.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:54 amWhy do you care if he lied somewhere else if it doesn’t matter ?
Or better yet, why pretend you care if he lied if you clearly don’t ?
Comment by Kilo
Kilo = Seixon
June 10th, 2007 at 2:21 am-Test-
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