Couric accosts America with Paris fluff.
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Couric accosts America with Paris fluff.
CBS News anchor Katie Couric, during a recent commencement address:
The proliferation of celebrity magazines makes Lindsey Lohan’s latest stint in rehab seem more important than what’s happening in Darfur.
The kind of fluff that accosts us on the newsstand may seem like harmless fun, but it should also come with a warning label that says it can rot your mind and distort your values.
Steve Benen notes, during Friday’s broadcast of Couric’s CBS Evening News, “the Paris Hilton ‘news’ got more coverage on CBS than a roadside bomb killing a U.S. soldier, the immigration legislation, and passage of the stem-cell bill combined — times two.”
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TP accosts Bloggers with Paris fluff
June 9th, 2007 at 2:28 pmParis Hilton story is overblown, but Bush likes it because it takes the press heat off of him and his fiasco in Iraq.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:37 pmComment by President
You mean anti-Paris fluff. That can rot your mind, too.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:38 pmComment by President
You mean anti-Paris fluff. That can rot your mind, too.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 9, 2007 @ 2:38 pm
ANY mention of Paris is fluff. TP is just as guilty as any other medium. TP is just as lame as the bimbo Katie Couric.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:42 pmThis is the "dumbing down" of american by the press. It's a very successful attempt by the complicit mainstream media to otherwise "hijack" the serious discussion which needs to be taking place regarding the future of this country. The coverage of Paris Hilton and her escapades means absolutely nothing to the american people except that she's another "trainwreck" waiting to happen. The focus of this country right now should be it's longevity....and the destruction of this democracy by the powers that be.....not the inane, disgusting movements of a spoilet brat-gone-mad like Paris Hilton!
June 9th, 2007 at 2:42 pmAlien spaceship sighted hovering over G-8 leaders.
Shocking photographic proof.
-GSD
June 9th, 2007 at 2:42 pmHowever.....that being said....the likes of one serious "fluff-fart" like Katie Couric making this statement is certainly like the kettle calling the pot black, isn't it? Katie's been nothing but a fluffy airhead which is why she was trounced from the Today Show and is floundering for her life as a serious anchor. There's never been anything serious about Couric's egoic rantings and inability to accept her appearance and her age gracefully.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:44 pmWe need to break up the corporate media monopoly and reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, to remove the media's liberal bias...
June 9th, 2007 at 2:45 pmI found watching Ann Coulter giving her considered opinions about the re-incarceration on Fox news hilarious. She was trying to make the case that it was all being blown out of proportion - until Sherrif Joe Arpao from Arizona gave her assertion a sound thrashing - and Ann had to sit there at take it, 'cause everyone knows you don't out-redneck Sheriff Joe. It literally cannot be done.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:52 pmComment by barfly
A clip? What was the hag arguing? That FauxNews had played the story up too much or that the judge was too hard on the other blond reptile? Or?
June 9th, 2007 at 2:55 pm#8 Breaking up the corporate media is not any more possible than stopping this very same monopoly from controlling the white house. It's a symbiotic relationship at this point.
What intelligent individuals ARE doing, however, is boycotting all of the sycophantic media whoring stations by spreading the word that they are nothing more than a slick "propaganda machine" and worthless to waste one's time watching or listening to.
Most informed americans have computers these days and obtain their news immediately as it breaks - in it's most factual form. All one has to do is to do this and then wait for the complicit propaganda news machines to put the RNC political "spin" on it all - it's pretty transparent and laughable at this point.
No one I know spends two minutes of their time tuning into the mainstream news or reading newspapers either....it's a total waste of time and a very insidious form of "overt brainwashing".
June 9th, 2007 at 3:06 pmIt's fascinating to watch the BBC news to see what's really going on in this country....or the foreign news channels, for that matter. They can tell us the truth about ourselves - something which many of us simply haven't the courage to do.
June 9th, 2007 at 3:08 pmThe people responsible for the wall-to-wall coverage of Paris Hilton's arrest and jailing are the SAME people responsible for paying Katie Couric 15-million dollars a year. The executives who believe news should be as PROFITABLE as entertainment have created a world where news must BE more entertaining than informative.
June 9th, 2007 at 3:12 pmIt’s fascinating to watch the BBC news to see what’s really going on in this country….or the foreign news channels, for that matter. They can tell us the truth about ourselves - something which many of us simply haven’t the courage to do.
Comment by veritas — June 9, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
veritas = anti-American propagandizer
June 9th, 2007 at 3:14 pmRick Blaine: Now, you've got to listen to me! You have any idea what you'd have to look forward to if you actually reported the news? Nine chances out of ten, we'd both wind up without a job. Isn't that true, Louie?
Captain Renault (Claude Rains): I'm afraid Andrew Heyward would insist.
Ilsa: You're saying this only to make me stop reporting the news.
Rick: I'm saying it because it's true. Inside of us, we both know you belong with CBS. You're part of it's propaganda, the thing that keeps it going. If that plane leaves the ground and you're not with CBS, you'll regret it. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.
Ilsa: But what about the news?
Rick: We'll always have Paris...............
June 9th, 2007 at 3:16 pmAmericaBlog.com is OUTING Sen. Lindsey Graham today as a closeted hypocrite Gay man. If they have proof, then Lindsey will be resigning from the Senate soon.
June 9th, 2007 at 3:49 pmThis Paris Hilton court case is a prime example of how the rich get around the rules that apply to the rest of us. She obviously has not been brought up by her parents to respect the rights of others (to be free of drunk drivers on the road). She needs to be locked up for a few days so that she can learn to respect the minimal rules of the road.
Her case is also a brilliant exposition of what is wrong with our America in the 21st century: the arrogance and greed of the Republican ruling class like Bush and Cheney stealing elections, letting nine-eleven happen without their even raising a single pinkie, and then starting wars and occupations in foreign lands.
We seem to have drifted back to the old rule by Kings, Princes and Czars, with the help of the complicit corporate media.
June 9th, 2007 at 3:49 pmDid anyone see katie couric interview the lady known as the triangle woman?
It was the strangest conversation between two women. It was a little like watching someone with dementia slowly go down the drain.
http://www.trianglewomanmovie.com/
Nude Gingrich
June 9th, 2007 at 4:04 pmveritas = anti-American propagandizer????
Comment by Mr. President — Get your whiny little tighty whity punk ass out of here.
June 9th, 2007 at 4:09 pm#5 veritas,
June 9th, 2007 at 4:31 pmI stand right beside you in this. Yes, indeed. This is the dumbing down of America by the complicit press in lieu of their mission as the fourth estate.
You can see why most Americans are retards
Americans are retards
June 9th, 2007 at 4:33 pmhttp://www.filecabi.net/video/911_quiz.html
Mr. President is no different than a bootlicking nazi sympathizer who watched his country become overaken by a sociopath.
June 9th, 2007 at 4:34 pm"...it can rot your mind and distort your values."
For those of you seeking to characterize Couric as hypocritical, please remember that nowhere in her career did she ever state that it was not her intention to "rot your mind and distort your values."
Paris Hilton's new CD: >b>Bustin' Out.
June 9th, 2007 at 4:40 pmAll of this is spelled out in language and words that even a Repugnican creep can understand in President Al Gore's new book "The Assault on Reason". Get the book Read it. And start shaking your head in further disgust.
June 9th, 2007 at 5:27 pmComment by veritas — June 9, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
Comment by JTitor — June 9, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
I am sorry...
**wink, wink**
You are both quite right.
The US of A has a government that is corrupt, but it is not the fault of the people. We (the people that is), agree with the rest of the global community. It is not our fault, but rather the corrupt politicians who plan to conquer the world, Holy Wars-style. We are so glad that the BBC, Al-gizz-in-ya-ear-a, and other media outlets outside of the US of A can provide unbiased information about our government. After all, it is the same corrupt government that plans to take over the world, Holy Wars-style, which is filling our heads with totalitarian
(and this totalitarian, NOT, authoritarian people here confuse the two terms reprehensively)
propaganda. Do not worry though, now that the people have made their voice heard in Washington D.C. by electing a Democrat Majority Congress, things will change.
June 9th, 2007 at 5:31 pmKatic Couric doesn't even recall the contents of her own news coverage. It's a 9-5 job that's strictly forgettable to her.
June 9th, 2007 at 5:43 pmCOURIC SUX
June 9th, 2007 at 5:44 pmCouric looked older 15 years ago.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:00 pmHer news show is like a tabloid and looks too stiff.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:07 pmComment by Jay Randal — June 9, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
Hope so. He's never been married, you know, and I wonder what the good people of South Carolina will think about having a gay man as their Senator.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:14 pmWhen Paris Hilton goes to jail, so does America.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:20 pmi've been checking out this alternative...
http://www.goleft.tv
probably need high speed, minimum...
(sorry,zoo)
mr.p., and his young ilk, should enjoy "uncle jay explains the news"...
June 9th, 2007 at 6:27 pm...
AmericaBlog.com is OUTING Sen. Lindsey Graham today as a closeted hypocrite Gay man. If they have proof, then Lindsey will be resigning from the Senate soon.
Comment by Jay Randal
Why would he have to resign, Jay?
June 9th, 2007 at 6:29 pmCouric looked older 15 years ago.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
The makeup dude tightens the wingnut on the back of her head every morning.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:31 pmWhy would he have to resign, Jay?
Comment by Zooey — June 9, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
He would just have to take some time off, go to rehab, and then he would be cured.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:32 pmName your child according to what you want him/her to be.
Paris Hilton - Socialite
Vort McGinnis (my child's name, hopefully) - will make it to Pluto in a hot-air balloon.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:32 pmComment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 9, 2007 @ 6:32 pm
I'm all my kids Mr. President Jr., Mr. President III, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, regardless of race or sex!!!!
June 9th, 2007 at 6:34 pmErratum: post #39) missing word - "naming"
June 9th, 2007 at 6:36 pmPerhaps should extend her name to Katherine Couric and be given Matt Lauer as her sidekick.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:39 pmComment by Mr. President
".....regardless of race or sex!!!!"
How considerate of you, Mr. President! If you keep this up, you'll have you (and your familia) a multi-generational, multi-billion dollar industry poking at neo-liberal gumbies and, in turn, securing the homeland and its peace.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:44 pmVort McGinnis (my child’s name, hopefully) - will make it to Pluto in a hot-air balloon.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Please, have mercy on the poor little thing -- not Vort!
Oy....think junior high...pure torture.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:57 pmComment by Mr. President
“…..regardless of race or sex!!!!â€
How considerate of you, Mr. President! If you keep this up, you’ll have you (and your familia) a multi-generational, multi-billion dollar industry poking at neo-liberal gumbies and, in turn, securing the homeland and its peace.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 9, 2007 @ 6:44 pm
That's right CT, but don't get me wrong, my minorities little Mr. Presidents will only be Mr. Presidents in name.
I mean, we can't expect the American people to take minority leaders seriously!!!!
June 9th, 2007 at 6:58 pmHey CT, I think Zooey finds you charming.
You should put the moves on her...
June 9th, 2007 at 6:59 pmsee if she wants to go square-dancing...
she likes Toby Keith!!!
I will visit Thinkburritos.org
June 9th, 2007 at 7:02 pmI will visit Thinkburritos.org
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 9, 2007 @ 7:02 pm
Yup, that's the showin' the ol' CT charm!!!!
June 9th, 2007 at 7:04 pmComment by Zooey
My offspring will be techno-schooled, Zooey. Junior high is for boring people. Even I went there - it was soooo boring and average. You agree, right!?!?!?
June 9th, 2007 at 7:05 pmComment by Mr. President
The minority-whip(in') position is the funnest of the congress.
I am a computer system, me can hit on nobody. Breeding will come through a very difficult fusion process. How will yours happen, good friend?
June 9th, 2007 at 7:09 pmMaybe "Katie Ipacac" should do the trick.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:10 pmWhen Paris Hilton goes to jail, so does America.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
When Paris Hilton goes to jail..America is better off.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:11 pmMy offspring will be techno-schooled, Zooey. Junior high is for boring people. Even I went there - it was soooo boring and average. You agree, right!?!?!?
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
It's not boring if you're named "Vort."
F*ck off, Mr P. I told you about the age limit thing, so quit trying to pick me up. :P
June 9th, 2007 at 7:11 pmMy offspring will be techno-schooled
So have you figured out yet that all numbers are infinite? Techno school is a dead end.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:14 pmZooey has taught me to take it easy, to be less of a southern right-wing stiffy. I am now a northern right-wing stiffy and am gleaning from her wisdom. I also have a greater respect for Mr. President.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:15 pmComment by Stella Octangula
But, Stella, learning itself is infinite!!! Please agree!!
June 9th, 2007 at 7:17 pmPlease?
June 9th, 2007 at 7:19 pmI am now a northern right-wing stiffy and am gleaning from her wisdom.
Be your geographic location as it is...Let me fill you in on a little southern secret. I live in red state texas. Back when I was a kid it was democratic and a heck of alot more moral than today. Back then we followed the Blue Laws. People didnt work on sunday. Shopping mall parking lots were barren. Today, under Republicans, the Blue Law is gone and alcohol and liquor are sold in more stores and counties than ever before.
You can talk left and right all you want, the truth is Republcans are more liberal than Democrats.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:20 pmComment by Stella Octangula But, Stella, learning itself is infinite!!! Please agree!! Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Books are finite. Wisom does not come from a book.
Wisdom is infinite, once found, rote training is limited.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:21 pm#22 Hi Marie! As always, we are quite simpatico in our thinking. I guess you know that Prescott Bush was more than a bootlicking nazi sympathizer, don't you? His company was actually marketing the "gas" to Hitler in his concentration camps before the Government cracked his operation wide open.
As they say, the apple certainly doesn't fall far from the tree!
June 9th, 2007 at 7:22 pmNow CT, let me ask you, from where does wisdom come?
Can you find it in a book? Why not?
June 9th, 2007 at 7:23 pmLearning is mandatory in some form. You can learn something dumb and useless, but you must be learning something. Mr. President, is that in any way philosophical?
June 9th, 2007 at 7:25 pm#56 All traditional definitions have been thrown out the window. How can a Republican administration who has amassed an unprecedented national debt when they were handed a surplus at their inception be considered at all "conservative"??? This one issue tells the tale and people everywhere can see for themselves that it's the Dems who are more moral, traditional, and conservative than any Republican in office.....with the exception of one, guess who has the trophy for amassing the most scandals?? It's not the dems.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:25 pmI sense a troll hijacking attempt in progress here! If it smells like a troll, articulates like a troll.....we've got trolls on board.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:26 pmComment by Stella Octangula But, Stella, learning itself is infinite!!! Please agree!! Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Books are finite. Wisom does not come from a book.
Wisdom is infinite, once found, rote training is limited.
Comment by Stella Octangula — June 9, 2007 @ 7:21 pm
Learning, as an activity (i.e. the verb, not the noun) is infinite in itself.
Wisdom is (and is the product of) habitually and actively learning and contemplating.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:26 pmLearning is mandatory in some form. You can learn something dumb and useless, but you must be learning something.
Learning is hereditary. Did someone teach a deer to run? Who taught you to walk?
June 9th, 2007 at 7:28 pmLearning is mandatory in some form. You can learn something dumb and useless, but you must be learning something. Mr. President, is that in any way philosophical?
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 9, 2007 @ 7:25 pm
Sort of.
You might want read about the theory of Intensionality.
It states that consciousness is always consciousness of...
Meaning consciousness is never empty, it may be useless, but in order for it to be considered consciousness there must be an object of consciousness, generally speaking.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:29 pm....speaking of Paris "fluff", some of these posts are the biggest bunch of horse$hit I've heard in a long time. Unfortunately you both suffer from "omphalokepsis" which is the fine art of contemplating the accumulated lint in your bellybutton.
As the Zen masters say: Often is is "wisest" to keep one's trap shut lest the spilling on one's own detritus contaminate the keyboard.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:30 pmLearning is hereditary. Did someone teach a deer to run? Who taught you to walk?
Comment by Stella Octangula — June 9, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
Well, genetics has a big part in it... but so does experience and nurture.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:32 pmLearning, as an activity (i.e. the verb, not the noun) is infinite in itself.
Learning, an activity of reading books, is finite. There are only so many books to read and learn from. This is knowledge.
Wisdom, I agree, is in a way reflection. And it does not come from within but from your surroundings, which is not a book, without a class, a test, or a teacher.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:33 pmComment by Stella Octangula
"If you want to live like a Republican, you better vote for the Democrats" - Harry Truman.
Comment by Stella Octangula
You bring up a remarkable point. I love to read, but I don't find myself becoming bright and witty as I'd hoped. Real intelligence, in my view, comes through a shifting life experience that changes/emboldens a habit - learning and otherwise. I wish I could elaborate more. I know that reading has to be important, howerver. Reading can mean cramming and you can't figure out what to do with all those words sometimes.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:35 pmLearning, an activity of reading books, is finite. There are only so many books to read and learn from. This is knowledge.
Comment by Stella Octangula — June 9, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
That is true, but books to not constitute the whole of learning (as an activity). As long as one is constantly actively learning, there is no end except the natural end of mortal existence.
So, actually, I do agree. Mortal learning is finite, and this does not limit itself to books. It applies to the totality of human existence.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:38 pmWell, genetics has a big part in it… but so does experience and nurture. Comment by Mr. President
Genetics plays a much larger role than you think (DNA) which I wont go into at this time.
Experience is basically redundancy, or repetitiveness.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:38 pmAnyone else hear the rumor that well-moneyed reich wing moguls have hired staff whose job is to function in the same manner as the rodeo clown, diverting the attention of those posting here away from issues and toward personalities. Word has it that those infiltrators receive a set amount for every post that is directed toward them rather than about the concerns raised by the initial story. Some people visiting this site seem to be doing their part to ensure that such individuals are able to make a comfortable living as Hannity or Coulter wannabes. Fascinating how this can occur even in a string a comments following a story about the same phenomenon existing within the MSM.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:39 pmThe question is, if a youth hated books and doing homework when he was young, he may of missed out on gaining the habit of staying consistent. Once your an adult, it can catch up to you. Is it possible to fully wiggle out and reverse the cycle as an adult and make it seem as if you were #1 in your class or is it too late?
June 9th, 2007 at 7:40 pmSo, actually, I do agree. Mortal learning is finite, and this does not limit itself to books. It applies to the totality of human existence.
Comment by Mr. President
I agree. But then is not the totality of our existence encapsulated in our DNA?
June 9th, 2007 at 7:41 pmGenetics plays a much larger role than you think (DNA) which I wont go into at this time.
Experience is basically redundancy, or repetitiveness.
Comment by Stella Octangula — June 9, 2007 @ 7:38 pm
But genetics is just the worldly boundry which limits us, and therefore all worldly experience should be considered equal to genetics in that they are limited states of being and occurances.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:42 pmI agree. But then is not the totality of our existence encapsulated in our DNA?
Comment by Stella Octangula — June 9, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
Yes!!!!!!
June 9th, 2007 at 7:43 pmStrange, that is what I was trying to say in my last post. Even though I had not read yours yet.
The question is, if a youth hated books and doing homework when he was young, he may of missed out on gaining the habit of staying consistent. Once your an adult, it can catch up to you. Is it possible to fully wiggle out and reverse the cycle as an adult and make it seem as if you were #1 in your class or is it too late?
Einstein hated school, his ideas did not match what he was rote taught. People called him nuts etc. Yet today we know that what he was saying was accurate, I would say that school failed him, and many others because it dissuades freethinking.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:45 pmThinkfajitas.org!
June 9th, 2007 at 7:46 pmMr. President,
M(r)s. Stella Octangula has some unparalled wisdom. It could help to upgrade our motherboards.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:49 pmPundits
By: John Amato @ 3:15 PM - PDT
[...]
Here’s a piece about Paul Krugman’s column on the Republican debate on CNN.
Krugman begins with Tuesday night’s Republican debate—more specifically, with the work of our floundering press corps:
KRUGMAN (6/8/07): In Tuesday’s Republican presidential debate, Mitt Romney completely misrepresented how we ended up in Iraq. Later, Mike Huckabee mistakenly claimed that it was Ronald Reagan’s birthday.
Guess which remark The Washington Post identified as the â€gaffe of the nightâ€?
Folks, this is serious. If early campaign reporting is any guide, the bad media habits that helped install the worst president ever in the White House haven’t changed a bit…read on
June 9th, 2007 at 7:49 pmhttp://www.crooksandliars.com/
...
Thinkchalupas.org!
June 9th, 2007 at 7:50 pmYes!!!!!!trange, that is what I was trying to say in my last post. Even though I had not read yours yet.
Comment by Mr. President
Some people find this spooky, I don't, It has to be. If we know today that we can take two photons from a single atom, and divide them by distance, they will act instantly, that is if one changes so does the other (pole flips
Nevertheless, wisdom, as you see, comes from the area inbetween two people reflecting without bias. =)
June 9th, 2007 at 7:51 pmkaty, you're so cool!
June 9th, 2007 at 7:51 pmNevertheless, wisdom, as you see, comes from the area inbetween two people reflecting without bias. =)
Comment by Stella Octangula — June 9, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
What do you think of that dialogical characterization of "wisdom"?
June 9th, 2007 at 7:54 pmM(r)s. Stella Octangula has some unparalled wisdom. It could help to upgrade our motherboards.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Thanks, But the operating systen would have to go from binary to trinary or quatrary to mimick the human mind.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:55 pmmenage a trois?!?! ...
Anyone else hear the rumor that well-moneyed reich wing moguls have hired staff whose job is to function in the same manner as the rodeo clown, diverting the attention of those posting here...
Comment by curmudgeon — June 9, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
these guys are good! ... not...
June 9th, 2007 at 7:57 pmWhat do you think of that dialogical characterization of “wisdom�
Comment by Mr. President
Well, as with Socrates, when you begin hearing 'air-eggs' you know you are onto something =)
June 9th, 2007 at 8:00 pmStella,
Given their mobility, could Microsoft ever develop an operating system mimicking the human mind?
June 9th, 2007 at 8:01 pmAnyone else hear the rumor that well-moneyed reich wing moguls have hired staff whose job is to function in the same manner as the rodeo clown, diverting the attention of those posting here…
Comment by curmudgeon
Diverting attention away from Paris? Okay fine. But think about this; Is Paris the clown diverting your attention or am I?
June 9th, 2007 at 8:04 pmWell, as with Socrates, when you begin hearing ‘air-eggs’ you know you are onto something =)
Comment by Stella Octangula — June 9, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
The 'air-eggs' are a not necessarily a good sign though. It means that we have miscarried. But at least we will have improved our skills as midwives to each other.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:04 pmYou could someday become a distinguised Professor, Mr. President.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:07 pmkaty, you're so smart!
June 9th, 2007 at 8:08 pmComment by curmudgeon
I don't care about Paris anymore. It's already been thorougly discussed. Katie can blab some more once she is released. There will be a hamburger stand nearby, hopefully.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:10 pmYou could someday become a distinguised Professor, Mr. President.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 9, 2007 @ 8:07 pm
Thank you, CT!
But I do not know if that is the direction I want to go, most professors are limited by academia in what they can and can not say and teach.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:11 pmIt may just be my computer, but I think there's something faulty with TP's comment board today.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:13 pmComment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 9, 2007 @ 8:07 pm
So if I am to be distinguish, it will most likely not be in our lifetime.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:13 pmThe ‘air-eggs’ are a not necessarily a good sign though.
Not if your Jesus or Socrates apparently.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:14 pmComment by Mr. President
"......most professors are limited by academia in what they can and can not say and teach."
You would probably be too good a prospect to mingle in that low-down environment. The political charging of the classroom, for one, can be rather disturbing. The professorate really shouldn't be as stiff as it it, there's no benefit to it.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:17 pmThe ‘air-eggs’ are a not necessarily a good sign though.
Not if your Jesus or Socrates apparently.
Comment by Stella Octangula — June 9, 2007 @ 8:14 pm
I don't know about Jesus, but as for the Son of Sophroniscus, it was the act of giving birth that was important. Not so much whether the child survived or was still-born.
It is a problem if people think that they have birthed a live child.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:19 pmBecause then they get cocky and hold it up for the world to see, only to find out later that it was a windegg.
So if I am to be distinguish, it will most likely not be in our lifetime.
Comment by Mr. President
Many distinguished names of great thinkers are never known =)
June 9th, 2007 at 8:20 pmThe professorate really shouldn’t be as stiff as it it, there’s no benefit to it.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 9, 2007 @ 8:17 pm
This actually involves the same problem, academia today thinks that they have birthed live children and they are holding them up, passing them around to all of the students. But in reality they are just the same old wind-eggs.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:21 pm“……most professors are limited by academia in what they can and can not say and teach.â€
Freedom is a fleeting word.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:21 pmacademia today thinks that they have birthed live children and they are holding them up
Academia wants you to repeat what you were taught.
This apple is green, they say.
You answered Red.
You failed the test, are labled stupid, driven to dig ditches.
But did you really fail the test?
Aye, I failed the test -- but you know what? I'd rather dig a ditch than listen to a group of pompous asses.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:24 pmComment by Mr. President
It seems that no college faculty these days are "distinguised." Rather, it's the "best of all worsts". If you show your real flair in the lecture hall, the committee would be too jealous to appoint you dean. And Tenure? Forget about that. And, given the insurmountable work, the pay truly sucks. Business (especially Accounting), though, has some good prospects.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:24 pmFreedom is a fleeting word.
Comment by Stella Octangula — June 9, 2007 @ 8:21 pm
Freedom, as it is commonly used, is a meaningless word.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:27 pmBusiness (especially Accounting), though, has some good prospects.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 9, 2007 @ 8:24 pm
Not for me, I couldn't take it.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:28 pmI'm just taken aback that many colleges refuse to change their old teaching practices. I would like to know why.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:29 pmAye, I failed the test — but you know what? I’d rather dig a ditch than listen to a group of pompous asses.
Comment by Stella Octangula — June 9, 2007 @ 8:24 pm
That is why it took over a decade for Einstein to get the credit he deserved. Because his theory did not agree with the accepted theory, so he sat and sat until his theory was proven to be more accurate.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:31 pmEver taken a Computer Science 201 (Introductory) course where the instructor won't allow you to turn on the computer in class, only allows you to program out-of-class, and reads out of the book as if that's the way to learn how to program? Evern encountered pompous professor who knows but won't share because "it's better for you to figure it out yourself"?
That was an easy course...
June 9th, 2007 at 8:35 pmThinkstupid.org!
June 9th, 2007 at 8:40 pmThat is why it took over a decade for Einstein to get the credit he deserved. Because his theory did not agree with the accepted theory, so he sat and sat until his theory was proven to be more accurate.
Comment by Mr. President
I agree. Nevertheless we cannot perfect society if we are always calling one another stupid or crazy, or falling back on wars past for a solution to future needs. Mankind, to me, is stuck in an emotional loop that technology cannot cure. Shock and awe will not solve our problem of resources nor religious bias.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:41 pmThinkroaches.org!
June 9th, 2007 at 8:43 pmThinkstupid.org! Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
CT lowering the intelligence bar daily.
How clever.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:45 pmYa know, that fluff looks more like bacteria.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:46 pmThinktermites.org!
June 9th, 2007 at 8:47 pmComment by Stella Octangula
Well, the lowering should be temporary. You shouldn't worry.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:49 pmDark chocolate improves memory and is good for your heart. I just had some.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:53 pmI agree. Nevertheless we cannot perfect society if we are always calling one another stupid or crazy, or falling back on wars past for a solution to future needs. Mankind, to me, is stuck in an emotional loop that technology cannot cure. Shock and awe will not solve our problem of resources nor religious bias.
Comment by Stella Octangula — June 9, 2007 @ 8:41 pm
There is no way to solve the "problems" because the problems are all pseudo-problems, that is, they are only the product of mankind's stupidity. But this stupidity is also the very essence of mankind, humans are running around trying to conquer and annihilate themselves LITERALLY! But that is what they must do to maintain worldly existence.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:56 pmCT,
Why all the random comments?
June 9th, 2007 at 8:58 pm"Ya know, that fluff looks more like bacteria."
Comment by Stella Octangula
Hey, you got that right!
June 9th, 2007 at 9:01 pmBut that is what they must do to maintain worldly existence.
Comment by Mr. President
I don't. Sure the universe was created by chaos which brought order, but it is foolish for mankind to confuse himself with matter and to mimick it. Such is why we are given the ability to think.
June 9th, 2007 at 9:02 pmComment by Mr. President
I'm veering off course. I apologize, Mr. President. Will cease effective immediately.
June 9th, 2007 at 9:04 pmComment by Mr. President
So freedom really isn't free?
June 9th, 2007 at 9:08 pmComment by Stella Octangula
Do you believe that we're trying too hard to mimick history to solve crucial problems and prepare for ones that don't exist, in a textbook kind of way?
June 9th, 2007 at 9:11 pmI don’t. Sure the universe was created by chaos which brought order, but it is foolish for mankind to confuse himself with matter and to mimick it. Such is why we are given the ability to think.
Comment by Stella Octangula — June 9, 2007 @ 9:02 pm
I didn't mean you, I meant those who thought that they could undo or "solve" a problem with more of the same religious/political/whatever b.s. that started the problem in the first place.
But this is kind of what you are saying, I think.
However, I do believe that mankind has a natural tendency to reproduce or create something that will last beyond his or her mortal existence. So that upon death, there will be a comfort of an eternal contribution to the race. Therefore (and this does not apply to everybody) when a human feels that something is threatening to that chance of immortality, he or she will try to destroy whatever the percieved threat is.
June 9th, 2007 at 9:12 pmSo freedom really isn’t free?
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 9, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Think about what it would take for you to know that you were truly free.
June 9th, 2007 at 9:15 pmDo you believe that we’re trying too hard to mimick history to solve crucial problems and prepare for ones that don’t exist, in a textbook kind of way?
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
I think, we don't TRY to mimick history, of course, but we look to it for solutions to current problems because we don't, can't, know our future.
If we continue along this current path we willl have resource wars, past history or not.
June 9th, 2007 at 9:20 pmSorry everybody, I'm having a hard time easily refresing comments on this page, so I actually have to type and submit something in order to see the latest comments. The refresh button won't do it, so all of my comments may not be responses.
June 9th, 2007 at 9:21 pmHowever, I do believe that mankind has a natural tendency to reproduce or create something that will last beyond his or her mortal existence -MP
Why? I mean, your thoughts, being energy, are surely immortal.
June 9th, 2007 at 9:23 pmThink about what it would take for you to know that you were truly free. Comment by Mr. President
It is said that only thru laws shall man be free.
Yet too many laws builds a prison.
June 9th, 2007 at 9:26 pmStella and Mr. President, good night to both of you. I'll hopefully catch both of you later.
June 9th, 2007 at 9:26 pmComment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 9, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
try clearing your browsers web cache?
June 9th, 2007 at 9:27 pmHowever, I do believe that mankind has a natural tendency to reproduce or create something that will last beyond his or her mortal existence -MP
Why? I mean, your thoughts, being energy, are surely immortal.
Comment by Stella Octangula — June 9, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
They are immortal in substance/material but at the same time the form is always changing. So in one way everything is immortal, but in another way everything is in a state of flux.
June 9th, 2007 at 9:29 pmIssues by virtue.paris,katie, president, and lets not forget patrick. what's next? w? (emphasis on small w).
June 9th, 2007 at 9:29 pmGN CT1
June 9th, 2007 at 9:29 pm[Test]
June 9th, 2007 at 9:30 pmIt is said that only thru laws shall man be free.
Comment by Stella Octangula — June 9, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
And this is what is so paradoxical about the concept of "freedom"!!
Certainly we are bound by the laws of physics, so we do not have physical freedom. But do we really have mental freedom? Certainly the govt makes laws that limit the actions that are permitted. But even if those laws weren't in place, would we be free from guilt if we robbed/raped/murdered someone else?
Does true freedom really exist? I say no.
June 9th, 2007 at 9:32 pmDear me, I come in late to a discussion and find a couple of trolls debating Free Will vs. Determinism. How bizarre!!!
Lindsay Lohan or Paris Hilton, neither one is Front Page news. And 50 years ago they wouldn't have been. That's what the Society Page and the Gossip Column were for. And that's what Paris and Lindsey merit --a sensational gossip column. But they are not Headline News.
Of course, the Pepsi Generation has to be distracted from actually thinking. I recall a story about Johnny Carson were the commentator lamented that Johnny found it harder and harder to do political jokes or to have serious political guests. The audience was just to fragmented.
Vietnam did that. America divided between those who thought America represented human rigthts and those who felt its destiny was to impose a new kind of democracy. The split exists today: Nancy Pelosi vs. Karl Rove.
And America is kept happy by avoiding the discussion, which benefits the Roves of this World.
June 9th, 2007 at 9:33 pmStella, your advice worked. I cleared the temporary internet files, thank you.
Again, good night and thank you for your sound information. I don't know how one could possibly be that sharp.
June 9th, 2007 at 9:42 pmTake it easy CT.
June 9th, 2007 at 9:46 pm-Test-
June 9th, 2007 at 9:48 pmI don’t know how one could possibly be that sharp.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
It may seem that way but it wasn't. Browsers will look to the cache before looking to the internet for web pages. (it helps speed page loads)
As for David, what would you like to discuss about Paris Hilton?
June 9th, 2007 at 9:51 pmAnd America is kept happy by avoiding the discussion, which benefits the Roves of this World.
Comment by david
I am not a Republican. I am sovereign.
I guess you would rather discuss a spoiled child?
Okay fine. I think more conservative girls should be like Paris, driving drunk and making an ass of themselves.
Talk about free will!
June 9th, 2007 at 9:55 pmHey big fella, guess we won't go out fishing anymore with a telescoping steel fishing rod in a lightning storm again, will we?
June 9th, 2007 at 9:56 pmSorry about your fried circuits, but how do you think I feel with my motor windings fused to the prop shaft?
Thank goodness you had a chance to polish off that case of Keystone, it wasn't a totaly wasted day after all, eh?
The good news is, you worked off the cheap buzz by having to row back to the boat ramp.
Katie Courac has a lot of nerve -
This from a woman whose opening story on her premiere night as the CBS Evening News anchor woman was Tom Cruise's baby!!!
Katie Courac is a joke, that's why her ratings are in the toilet!!
June 9th, 2007 at 9:57 pmVietnam did that. America divided between those who thought America represented human rigthts and those who felt its destiny was to impose a new kind of democracy. The split exists today: Nancy Pelosi vs. Karl Rove. -David
If I make Karl Rove and Pelosi the center of my axis of thought, then does not that empower them?
Why should I empower an electeted, and non-elected, servant of democracy?
Is Democracy for the salus populi or not?
June 9th, 2007 at 9:59 pmDear me, I come in late to a discussion and find a couple of trolls debating Free Will vs. Determinism. How bizarre!!!
Comment by david — June 9, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
THis is the type of shit that pisses me off. How hypocritical?
If you think that Stella is a troll, then you are as much of douche as any of the right-wing fascists that you hate so much.
Please, you are so smug that you don't even see that you are becoming just as much of a dogmatic jerk as your enemies are.
June 9th, 2007 at 10:08 pm(Back to the future.... 2055)
Parasidio Hilton was released early for good behavior from federal penitentiary today after serving 45 years of an original 75 to life term.
June 9th, 2007 at 10:10 pmThe former Miss Paris Hilton went on a violent cross country bank robbery and bombing rampage after a botched sex change operation in 2010 which resulted in her/his horribly altered, scarred, and massive physique.
Originally completely unrepentant for the wanton destruction in the wake of his/her crime spree, in later years the would be heiress to the Hilton empire redeemed him/herself within the penal system with his/her fashion sense, and an obsession for painting every single steel bar she encountered in pleasing flesh tones, and leaving her trademark signature incised with her teeth.
Is Democracy for the salus populi or not?
Comment by Stella Octangula — June 9, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
Not any more.
Now it is just here for nostalgia and "convenience."
It's a joke!!!
June 9th, 2007 at 10:10 pmAgain my sleepy eyes and foggy brain saw only "Couric" "Paris" and "fluf." Or maybe it's my dirty mind that's the problem. Regardless of the cause the visual has put me off my supper.
AF
June 9th, 2007 at 10:25 pmSteve Benen notes, during Friday’s broadcast of Couric’s CBS Evening News, “the Paris Hilton ‘news’ got more coverage on CBS than a roadside bomb killing a U.S. soldier, the immigration legislation, and passage of the stem-cell bill combined — times two.â€
Did any of those things happen on the Friday ?
I note that there are no search results here on TP for "stem-cell" on Friday. The reason being is was news and already reported on the day before.
The immigration bill sure as shit didn't do anything meaningful on Friday.
So a daily news show didn't report on things on one day that they already reported on another day. What are you fkn clueless ?
June 9th, 2007 at 10:34 pmIt’s a joke!!!
Comment by Mr. President
Ironically, Empires have a way of joking themselves out of existence.
Sad, but true, materialism is the downfall of every one of them. If the lever of power is not given back to the population, muslims or war or not, the American experiment is doomed.
June 9th, 2007 at 10:48 pmBTW, thank you Mr Pres. Though we disagree, we agree more. I am not a troll. I speak my mind, if that makes me a troll in your mind then so be it.
Shall I also call you a troll David for speaking your mind?
June 9th, 2007 at 10:58 pmHey You Pack of DEMWITS try to remember that you are berating your unbiased LIBERAL MEDIA : )
June 9th, 2007 at 11:16 pmCall us Nazis and Trolls , but Remember this , while you are doing so and mad as hell we know that the Country is moving in the RIGHT Direction : P
June 9th, 2007 at 11:18 pmHarry Truman, you are kinda dumb, aren't you?
June 10th, 2007 at 12:13 amYep, Harry Truman is a complete idiot.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:23 amJPark no but liberals sure are and you being a liberal you are . so go get in line behind ernie so you can get your blowjob from bert zooey took the night off .
June 10th, 2007 at 12:25 amTruman, speak English.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:27 amOh, I get it, Truman!!! Sesame Street is a haven for queers, right??? You have some problems.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:29 am*Test*
June 10th, 2007 at 9:35 amProducer charges PBS with supressing film
'Islam vs Islamists' at center of controversy
Joanne Ostrow
Article Last Updated: 05/15/2007 08:05:30 PM MDT
PBS, including Rocky Mountain Public Broadcasting, recently broadcast a series of films titled "America at a Crossroads" --a week-long, $20 million cinematic exploration of the tough choices facing the country in the wake of 9/11. The films proved to be less earthshaking than the tale of one that wasn't broadcast.
The Corporation for Public Broadcasting provided $675,000 for the production of "Islam vs. Islamists," nearly all of that in federal funds. The film hasn't made it to the airwaves. The producer claims it is being "suppressed" by PBS.
PBS counters that the producers haven't finished the network's "production and review process."
While the standoff continues, some of us who have seen the film can attest it is a professional, well-researched and thoroughly compelling work.
From the start, the "Crossroads" project was controversial. It was an initiative of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the funding arm of PBS, which isn't supposed to make programming decisions. Even a group of public TV station managers complained that the "Crossroads" project was an expensive idea, needlessly duplicating programs already aired on PBS.
So far, so typical of the chronically strapped, internally conflicted non-commercial service.
A total of 22 films were made under the initiative; so far 11 have aired. The next, "Kansas to Kandahar," is slated for June 11 locally on Channel 6. The film "Islam v. Islamists: Voices From the Muslim Center," by Martyn Burke, is the compelling story of the political/religious divide among followers of Islam. Through personal interviews, it chronicles the efforts of certain moderate Muslims to speak out within their communities, and reports on how they have been verbally attacked and physically threatened by traditional Islamists.
"Censorship is a word being thrown around," according to producer-director Burke, who previously produced "Pirates of Silicon Valley" and "The Hollywood Ten."
Burke claims his film was dropped for political reasons, among them the fact that two of his co-producers, Frank Gaffney and Alex Alexiev, are neo-conservatives from the Center for Security Policy.
A week ago, a spokeswoman for PBS said the film was still being edited and would be made available soon. Today PBS released a statement charging the producers with attacking the editorial process rather than working to complete the film.
Burke said that is simply not true.
According to Burke, PBS derailed his project in unethical ways.
WETA the Washington, D.C., PBS station producing the series, urged him to eliminate a key perspective of the film: The claim that Muslim radicals are pushing to establish "parallel societies" in America and Europe governed by Shariah law rather than sectarian courts.
"PBS said there's nothing wrong with enclaves not ruled by the laws of the Western countries they're in, the opposite of what we and the film's moderates believe," Burke said. Additionally, WETA asked Burke to fire his colleagues. He declined.
After grants were issued, the "Crossroads" managers commissioned a new film that overlapped with "Islam vs. Islamists" and competed for the same interview subjects.
WETA appointed an advisory board that includes Aminah Beverly McCloud, director of World Islamic Studies at DePaul University. In "a complete violation of journalistic tenets," Burke said, McCloud showed rough-cut segments of the film to Nation of Islam officials, who are a subject of the documentary. They threatened to sue.
The whole experience represents "the most inept, heavy-handed way to administer a series I have ever seen," Burke said. (As a freelance producer he's worked for seven major networks.)
The film opens with a case in Copenhagen, where fundamentalist Muslims attempted to enforce sharia or Islamic law outside the system of Danish law, forging an Islamic "parallel society." Naser Khader, an elected member of the Danish parliament, speaks for the middle, discussing the death threats he receives regularly from organized extremists.
"It reminds me of what happened in the '30s in Germany," he says. His isn't the only reference to fascist tactics chronicled in the film. One area where moderates split from extremists is the Islamists' "obsession with sexuality," according to a Canadian Muslim moderate TV host. He, too, has been threatened by radical Islamists.
A Phoenix physician, Zuhdi Jasser, a moderate Muslim, who argues for the separation of religion and politics, organized a rally for Muslims Against Terrorism-and met with objections from local Muslim clerics. He makes the point that most Muslims are non-violent, but that many accept the Islamist view that America is to blame for all of the Muslim world's problems.
The film's climax is an exploration of the Danish cartoon crisis, and how it was manipulated to incite extremists.
PBS responded that, "additional films from 'America at a Crossroads' will air individually in the coming months; several have already been scheduled. "At the time we scheduled the April series, 'Islam vs. Islamists' had not completed the production and review process for PBS. They still have not. "Rather than working within the established editorial process, as did all of the other producers in the series, the producers of Islam vs. Islamists have instead decided to attack the process.
"'Islam vs. Islamists' covers topics that are timely and relevant, and the film was included in the initiative because of its potential merit. We sincerely hope that the producers of 'Islam vs. Islamists' will put their energies into completing work on the film."
Burke says his film is complete. He also stresses that it is "non-partisan."
In his dealings with WETA, he said, "we hit a pocket within PBS riddled with conflicts of interest and almost corrupt practices. We just hit something that stunk."
When will you get a chance to see the film? That remains to be seen. But keeping a film from interested viewers in the age of Internet streaming video is increasingly a losing game. Eventually it should and will be released to a wide audience to judge for itself.
June 10th, 2007 at 10:40 amUnless of course Harry Truman, they get to the internet soon.
I lived in Moscow for awhile, and although my Russian isn't very good I saw what was happening to the press under Putin, he was one by one taking it back under state control. So in this country it is under Corporate (republican) control, no difference really.
Funny how similar to Russia we have become...
June 10th, 2007 at 10:57 amto: couricandco@cbs.com
cc: publiceye@cbs.com; assignment@cbsnews.com
...quoting the above, deleted for brevity
This means that either a) Ms. Couric's hypocrisy knows no bounds, or b) Ms. Couric has no journalistic impact on her telecast and is just there as a stuffed blouse. Either way, I'm watching with glee as her astronomical salary bleeds CBS coffers dry while ratings understandably plummet.
If CBS wants ratings, how about trying to recreate the Walter Cronkite halcyon days of broadcast journalism when CBS was the gold standard, instead of trying to out-race Fox and CNN to the bottom of the shit pile by putting shallow personalities over substance?
INVESTIGATE AND REPORT THE NEWS FOR A CHANGE.
Sincerely,
trippin
PS - Oh, and I'm still waiting for Ms. Couric to ask Tony Snow if he intends on using his cancer for political gain as she did to Mr. and Ms. Edwards, because after all, "some people" are saying that. And while we're at it, did Ms. Couric televise her colonoscopy for career reasons, hoping to snag the lurid Fox News watching dottering dirty old men who hoped to catch a peek of her ass? Or is gutter-snipe heartlessness reserved only for the decidedly unjournalistic news anchor trying to appeal to right wing dimwits, and my essentially equivalent questions therefore out of bounds?
CC: Steve Hartman in the unlikely event he and the sponsor Exxon/Mobil finds this crisis in broadcast journalism newsworthy. Oh, did I say "Exxon/Mobil"? Never mind.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:59 pm“‘Islam vs. Islamists’ covers topics that are timely and relevant, and the film was included in the initiative because of its potential merit. We sincerely hope that the producers of ‘Islam vs. Islamists’ will put their energies into completing work on the film.â€
Sounds to me like a bunch of neocon sonsofbitches trying to whip the beer-swilling wife-beating NASCAR watching inbred xenophobic homobhobic Islamophobic Republican hillbilly asswipe into a frenzy. Just hand it over to Fox: they'll air it, no problem.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:06 pm[Next Test]
June 10th, 2007 at 8:14 pmKatie Couric's speech was terrible. I was there and it was pure pap. Hello, is there anyone home in her head?
June 11th, 2007 at 1:23 pmCommon Katie, take off the top and bra, then do the news, maybe that could save your raitings for a while. America wants to know, America needs to know, are they real or are they memorex!
June 11th, 2007 at 1:55 pm