Lieberman: ‘We’ve Got To Be Prepared To Take Aggressive Military Action’ Against Iran
Lieberman: ‘We’ve Got To Be Prepared To Take Aggressive Military Action’ Against Iran
This morning on CBS’s Face the Nation, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) strongly advocated preparing for a strike against Iran.
“I think we have to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq,” Lieberman said. Host Bob Schieffer followed-up: “Let’s just stop right there. Because I think you probably made some news here, Senator Lieberman. You’re saying that if the Iranians don’t let up, that the United States should take military action?” “I am,” Lieberman responded.
Lieberman added that “if there’s any hope” of stopping Iran’s nuclear program, “we can’t just talk to them. … We’ve got to use our force and to me that would include taking military action.” Watch it:
Inside the Bush administration, there has been a reported divergence of views regarding how to approach Iran. The State Department, led by Condoleezza Rice, has advocated a diplomatic course for resolving differences with Iran, a strategy that recently led to the first formal talks between U.S. and Iran in the last 27 years.
Vice President Cheney, on the other hand, reportedly believes the “diplomatic track with Iran is pointless, and is looking for ways to persuade Bush to confront Iran militarily.” Steve Clemons of the Washington Note wrote recently that “Cheney is planning to deploy an ‘end run strategy’ around the President if he and his team lose the policy argument,” and is meeting with Iran war advocates at the American Enterprise Institute to piece together a coalition. It appears Lieberman is on board.
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“we can’t just talk to them. … We’ve got to use our force and to me that would include taking military action.â€
why the hell does he, and all the CONS, think that
June 10th, 2007 at 11:40 amiran is working to GET nukes???! …duh…
…
this guy is just proof that american democracy has died…pathetic.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:40 amTo think Gore wanted this guy for VP.
Here the wingnuts are recycling stories.
This is classic.
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6184.html#comments
June 10th, 2007 at 11:42 amWho cares if Iran has nukes? They have two main enemies, Israel (who has nukes) and America (who has even more nukes). So even if they had nukes, they couldn’t use them or they would be instantly destroyed.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:42 amA person can only serve one master. Wonder who Lieberman is serving. While I don’t have an affirmative answer, I can say that it’s not the American people (me, you, and the troops).
June 10th, 2007 at 11:43 amWhat’s to stop some other country from saying this:
Hmmmm?
June 10th, 2007 at 11:43 amOh yeah? Lets see the proof or STFU.
Last I checked, they only talked to the Iranians for 1 day. Maybe they need to spend a teeny bit more time trying.
Again… the last I checked, they only talked to the Iranians for 1 day.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:43 amJoe, you are a damned disgrace. You entire career has been swallowed up by your neocon fantasies that has you solidly in bed with the likes of Cheney, Kristol, Perle, Abrams, and Ledeen. These people are traitors. What are you Joe?
This CT native says damn you to hell.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:44 amJoe Lieberman serves Joe Lieberman.
Someone check his heels for shit.
-GSD
June 10th, 2007 at 11:45 amYoo hoo, Chimpy…… You might want to get a handle on your VP — you are HIS BOSS….remember?
Jeebus….
June 10th, 2007 at 11:45 amIt’s worth noting that Mullen, the new Joint Chiefs of Staff nominee, and Fallon, the Centcom Commander, are both Navy guys who have been put in there by Gates via the influence of Cheney, because they are both strong about attacking Iran. Cheney’s getting all the chess pieces on the board in place.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:46 amNo one believes this crap about “proof” and “bases” and “evidence”. We’ve seen it all before.
Americans have to stop their government from going over the edge. The country is hurtling headlong into war criminality and fascism.
The real war is the war for the soul of America.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:48 amSince the NeoCons have recently fallen back in love with the Korean War, a little bit of history applies here too. In 1951, there was concern that the Chinese were supplying weapons and material to North Korea. Top military personnel were discussing a military invasion of China, because of this. General Omar Bradley responded, “The wrong war, at the wrong place, at the wrong time, and with the wrong enemy”.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:49 am“I think we have to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq,â€
i guess joe’s giving the saudis a pass even when last year’s i.s.g. report doesn’t.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:49 amJoe’s another disgraceful ‘War should be the only option!’ hack.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:50 amWarmongers are traitors to democracy.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:50 amCongress has given Bush the green light for attacking Iran, and the funding necessary, too.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:53 amYou would think that Joe might get the message with his “president” at 28 percent in the polls that being a war monger isn’t a wise thing. But all Joe cares about is Israel and threats to it. He’s more than willing to sacrifice American kids and billions of American dollars in the name of the terrorist state of Israel. I sincerely hope that the voters of Connecticut now understand what they got when they insisted on returning Joe and his years in Congress back to Congress. I also hope
June 10th, 2007 at 11:54 amthat they have the fortitude to initiate a recall election to get this piece of flotsam out of the Congress. I am not from Connecticut but Holy Joe is an embarassment to me. I can only imagine what people from the state think of the chief propagandist for the Bush administration in the Senate.
Traitor Joe LIEberman is insane, but the citizens of CT are going to have to take to the streets to force him to resign from the Senate in disgrace.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:54 am“I think we have to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq.â€
I would rebut with”
“I think we have to be prepared to take aggressive action against the Bush Administration to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq.â€
June 10th, 2007 at 11:55 amWould somebody get to work on a “recall” of this lying POS and the joker lips he shares with Bill Kristol to spew their vile warmongering propaganda.
How many times did he repeat that little line “Iranians killing Americans” over and over and there is ZERO evidence of that.
ZERO.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:55 am““I think we have to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq,—
I think we have to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the United States government to stop them from allowing Americans to be killed in Iraq.
Anyone wonder how hyped the so-called involvement of Iran in Iraq is? Could it be like the pre-war intel? I have, as yet to see any hard proof that Iran is involved in Iraq. And if we are going after nations who are helping people in Iraq kill Americans, then I do believe we should be setting our sights on the Saudis who are giving material aid to the Sunnis.
Can’t Connecticut impeach LIEberman. He lied to his constituents to get elected, there must be something they can do to hold him accountable for his lies.
As to “not allowing Iran to have a nuke”, I have to ask, “who made us boss”? Who are we to say who can have a nuke and who can’t. Pakistan has a nuke and they are harboring Osama bin Laden. They are also aiding the Taliban. Israel has nukes and I believe they are the country that is most likely to use one, unprovoked. Countries have nukes as a “deterrent” against aggression towards them by other countries. Considering all the aggression that Iran is threatened with, I see no reason why they can’t have a nuke like the other middle-eastern countries that have them.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:55 amamerica has been co-opted into a “peace for israel at any price” policy – it includes loss of civil liberties, the bankruptcy of our government, and a foreign policy that is bent on killing innocent arabs.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:57 amCongress has given Bush the green light for attacking Iran, and the funding necessary, too.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
How? And when?
The original AUMF? The latest funding bill?
June 10th, 2007 at 11:58 amJoe LIEberman actually has nothing left to lose. He knows that Connecticut is never going to elect him again. I believe that he is trying to align him with the side where he thinks he will have the greatest financial gain once he is no longer in government. That day can’t come soon enough for me.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:59 amI would rebut withâ€
“I think we have to be prepared to take aggressive action against the Bush Administration to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq.â€
Comment by Clyde the Ripper
I like yours better, Clyde. :)
June 10th, 2007 at 12:05 pmA person can only serve one master. Wonder who Lieberman is serving. While I don’t have an affirmative answer, I can say that it’s not the American people (me, you, and the troops).
Comment by smafdy
I can give you an answer to that question… ISRAEL!
June 10th, 2007 at 12:06 pmWhat is wrong with this blog today? Posts are going poof!
June 10th, 2007 at 12:06 pmOnce again, where are all the regular trolls?
Do they not work on weekends?
LOL!!!
June 10th, 2007 at 12:07 pmyou want to guess this traitors job after his “public” service?
June 10th, 2007 at 12:08 pmsAVE ME jEEBUS!!!!
BUSH TO COUNTRY:”i’m not NOT licking toads…”
what’s up POPStar(TM)?
:D
June 10th, 2007 at 12:09 pmOnce again, where are all the regular trolls?
Do they not work on weekends?
LOL!!!
Comment by JPV
They’re in church — having the good word go in one ear, and out the other.
Have a little respect! :P
June 10th, 2007 at 12:10 pm/sarc
This whole “Iran is killing our troops in Iraq” meme is nonsense.
Iran is Shiite. We have put the Shiites in power in Iraq. The insurgency is largely Sunni. Our troops are primarily dying at the hands of Sunni insurgents. I doubt very seriously if Iran is supplying Sunnis with weapons.
If it suited the administration’s purposes (and Lieberman’s, although it goes without saying that their purposes are one and the same), then you know they would be talking about Sunni insurgents.
But it works better for them if people think that the Iraqis are all freedom-loving people who want to get along, but they can’t because foreign al-Qaeda terrorists keep making trouble. And if the “Sunni” part of the insurgency was highlighted, then more Americans might put two-and-two together and realize that Iran’s part in the deaths of Americans is really minimal.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:10 pmCT has no recall provision to get rid of a wayward nut Senator like Joseph LIEberman. Joe believes that he can crap on his state for the next 5 and 1/2 years, so from his safe perch in the Senate he advocates for war on Iran. An attack on Iran must likely would set off global WWIII, but old Joe does not care and wants us all to die. Progressives need to flood Sen. Harry Reid’s office in DC with faxes demanding that LIEberman be dumped out from his committee leadership position. Here is the FAX number in DC for Harry: 202-224-7327, and here is Joe’s FAX number: 202-224-9750.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:14 pmTHIS MAN IS A RAVING LUNATIC!!!
JUST WHAT WE NEED – ANOTHER WAR IN THE MIDDLE-EAST….
WHAT A BUNCH OF LOSERS!!!!!
June 10th, 2007 at 12:14 pmBUSH TO COUNTRY:â€i’m not NOT licking toads…â€
what’s up POPStar(TM)?
:D
Comment by whiteyfresh
Hi whitey,
I’m getting pissed at the TP comments situation — nothing shows up unless I post some drivel, and then I get a bunch showing up at one time.
Toad licking — that’s probably one Chimpy hadn’t thought of yet.
How ya doing, whitey?
June 10th, 2007 at 12:18 pmGood people of Connecticut – wish you could have removed this piece of excrament! Maybe next time.. Hopefully after the ‘08 elections he and all the other Republicans (he basically is one on all the important issues) will be completely irrelevant.. hopefully!
June 10th, 2007 at 12:19 pmA group of Democratic Congresspersons need to go on record and say that if Cheney and company make any move whatsover against Iran, in any way endangering the fragile situation in the Middle East, such persons whoever they may be will be instantly impeached and suffer the full penalty for treason which is summary execution. Do any Dems have the guts and patriotism to do that? It remains to be seen.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:20 pm“Iran is Shiite. We have put the Shiites in power in Iraq. The insurgency is largely Sunni. Our troops are primarily dying at the hands of Sunni insurgents.”
yup. and the i.s.g. report specifically mentions money flowing to the sunnis from saudi arabia. but that’s never brought up, and in many ways, it’s the same type of stovepiping, or ’selective intelligence,’ that was ever so helpful in 2002.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:21 pm# 34
“Wayward nut Senator … Joseph LIEberman.”
perfect description.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:22 pmLierman is working to destroy the United States. He is a seditious criminal in cahoots with the cabal that stole the office and control of the once great US. A coup occured in 2000, a silent destruction of democracy. Sad really. We might have been something great for this earth except greed got in the way. No better profit than war and killing. Greed has usurped the justice and freedom we once thought of as our attributes and now we have become an ugly and ruinous thing.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:22 pmI once knew a guy in college who would get drunk and pick fights with other guys in the bar. He’d keep doing it until someone knocked him down. I think this is the Neo-con philosophy too.
What makes Cheney think Iran wouldn’t respond to an attack? And have right on their side? I mean, Iran has exocet missles that could sink most of the aircraft carriers in the Gulf. Iran has a much bigger army than Saddam had and can easily move across the border into Iraq. Honestly, the 150,000 American GIs can barely hold Iraq now, what are they going to do with a massive army attacking them from the East and North? And do Americans really want to be paying $10/gallon for gas?
The Neo-cons are most dangerous now. They’ve only a year and a half left and so much hasn’t been done. And what they pathetically deny is that what they have done is unravelling us we speak. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have been lost. The deficit is at record highs. The US dollar is in freefall. And the once great American military has been reduced to a chaotic mess. Good work, boys! Osama bin Laden couldn’t have done better himself. Indeed, if one paid attention to what OBL said were his objectives, America would know that he wanted Bush to invade Iraq and to bleed America to death in pointless and unwinnable wars that would bankrupt America and kill thousands of GIs.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:23 pmJoe is a Trojan-Horse GOPer agent, so he threatens to join the Republicans using that as blackmail against Harry Reid. The Democrats in the Senate would be better off to kick LIEberman out of the party and tell Reid that he has blown his position by NOT backing Ned Lamont last year.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:23 pmOld “Israel First” Joe should don the old helmet, take his family & just go over there & truly be a part of the action?
June 10th, 2007 at 12:24 pmWhy have 2 wars when you can have 3? I mean the first 2 are going so well and we have so many extra troops, it just totally makes sense to start another war.
Lieberman is a stark raving mad warmongering lunatic. Thanks Connecticut for re-electing that scum.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:24 pmPlain and simple here:
CT is for war and death….stop doing business with this WAR State…..
June 10th, 2007 at 12:27 pmWHY – WHAT A GOVERMENT – THEY JUST LOVE TO KILL KILL KILL KILL
June 10th, 2007 at 12:27 pm“Let’s just stop right there. Because I think you probably made some news here, Senator Lieberman. You’re saying that if the Iranians don’t let up, that the United States should take military action?†“I am,†Lieberman responded.
Lieberman next said,” Let’s queue that new hit single By John McCain & the Warmongers, ‘Bomb, bomb Iran’.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:27 pmThis:
June 10th, 2007 at 12:28 pmhttp://www.sonyclassics.com/whywefight/
Explaind LIEberman’s logic.
This is all such a depressing way to start my Sunday. And then I have to go play for a funeral.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:28 pmWish it was Lieberman’s.
Take away Cheney’s plane and confine him to the Vice President’s residence for the rest of the administration.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:28 pmGreat man and a great Senator.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:31 pmAttack Iran with what? Spit balls?
June 10th, 2007 at 12:32 pmBush, Cheney and Joe Loserman have run our military into the ground. You don’t start wars when you have already destroyed your armed forces. All we are capable of doing to Iran is to lob cruise missiles at them. Iran on the other hand has a multitude of options should we invade. They can launch overwhelming numbers of troops to confront our troops in Iraq or Afghanistan; they can launch their missiles at targets throughout Europe; they can cause acts of terrorism against us that would make 9-11 look like child’s play. And remember, the Persian gulf is a very confined space to be having your Navy, in this day and age.
Watch the price of gas skyrocket because of Joe Loserman’s loose lips. It’s really too bad that POS snuck his way back into the Senate. I think the people of Connecticut should find a legal way to remove him from office.
lynn post 46 > that is a good idea. Every patriotic American should boycott CT. Do not vacation in that state, do not buy anything from CT, and demand that all federal funding be cut off for them too. CT must be punished till they stand-up and force LIEberman to resign from Senate.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:33 pmFirst of all, Cheney appears to be plotting a “coup.” Forget impeachment….arrest him. Secondly, Lieberman should register as a “foreign agent,” as he transparently (unless one is blind) represents Israel. He then should be expelled from the Senate, since it is illegal to serve as a representative of a foreign nation and hold office in the U.S.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:33 pm“I think we have to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq,†Lieberman said.
Yeah… so what.
Don’t the Boy Scouts already know,
June 10th, 2007 at 12:34 pmALWAYS be prepared?
UNLESS YOU HAVE THE DECENCY TO TALK THEN DONT KILL KILL KILL
June 10th, 2007 at 12:34 pmAmerica wants Iraqs Oil if Bush dont get the Oil then he will start another war
June 10th, 2007 at 12:35 pmI would guess this was always part of the plan. They are running out of time and support so I think they will push hard now. I just hope EVERYONE questions everything thing they say, put out there, or evidence they present. They have already proved to what lengths they will go to get what they want.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:35 pmAnd the bottom line on this IS the oil.
UNLESS YOU HAVE THE DECENCY TO TALK THEN DONT KILL KILL KILL
Comment by Tobey Tall — June 10, 2007 @ 12:34 pm
OK, how’s this,
“Hey Toby, Shut the Fukc Up!!!!”
June 10th, 2007 at 12:35 pmAmerica wants Iraqs Oil if Bush dont get the Oil then he will start another war
Comment by Tobey Tall — June 10, 2007 @ 12:35 pm
Please, Toby.
If we wanted that oil, we’d HAVE that oil.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:36 pmLIEberman shows what happens when someone goes over to the “Dark Side” and becomes a “Darth Vader” for the Bush Regime.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:37 pmMay as well quit complaining. The final treat that the administration will leave us with, is poised to be the leveling of Iran. (new Chairman, JCS, anybody?) Good or bad? I don’t know. This does carry the possibility of triggering World War III because of Iran’s more capable state of returning fire (when compared to Iraq, anyways).
We have to gear up somehow because we don’t have a choice.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:40 pm“Joe Lieberman works for us” – Mossad
June 10th, 2007 at 12:40 pmOK, how’s this,
“Hey Toby, Shut the Fukc Up!!!!â€
Comment by Mr. President
That’s nice, Mr P. Isn’t it you always says you’re going to say whatever the hell you want to say, when you want to say it?
It works for other people, as well.
Not just you.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:41 pmBush only has two weeks left with Tony Blair in office. Blair was his only really support in this horrible mess.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:42 pmI wonder if something will happen to trigger all this expanding beyond the border of Iraq before he leaves. I think you will start hearing all kinds of “proof” and accusations towards Iran over the next two weeks..
They have been trying for months to pin something on Iran but nothing has been really stickingup till now. Then you had Cheney last month on that aircraft carrier basically telling Iran we were coming. I think these guys think they have free reign now to do whatever they want, regardless of what all of America wants. Once they start bombing, Bush can just call it the kind of security incident that enables him to declare martial law and he can make himself into the “dictator” he always wanted to be.
Maybe this is all a distraction. I mean, even the morons in the White House can see that we lack the troops needed to invade yet another (much larger) country. Yeah, sure, ships, planes and all, but you still need ground troops and we don’t have them. So maybe the whole strategy is that opponents get so distracted by the possibility of an invasion that they pay less attention to the disaster of the Iraq occupation. “Everything is screwed up, but at least they haven’t invaded Iran. Whew.”
Maybe. Or maybe they are even more stupid than I believe. I know they want to “win” something; why not take a page from the Gipper’s book and invade someone easy? I can see the NYT now: “Top officials within the administration told us, secret hush hush, that it is an incontrovertible fact that Greenland is sponsoring Islamic terrorism, increasing global warming, and killing polar bears.”
June 10th, 2007 at 12:42 pmComment by Mr. President
Ever watch ‘The Office’? The regional manager hates that ‘Toby’ guy.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:42 pmHow about this? 1st Platoon, Alpha Company, 1st Battle Group, Chickenshit Brigade, U.S. Army. Captain Richard Cheney, Commander, 2nd Lieutenant, Josef Lieberman, Executive Officer, Master Sergeant, Paul Wolfkowitz, First Sergeant, with four platoons made up of various assorted neocons.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:43 pmThis infantry company would be established to enable those of the “let’s you and him fight” mentality to (finally) step up to the plate and do their civic duty, not to mention putting their sweet asses on the line.
We have to gear up somehow because we don’t have a choice.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
There is always a choice. Good, bad or indifferent — all choices.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:43 pmHow long will it take for those Dems in CT who voted for Lie-berman to admit that they were completely duped? Perhaps as long as it will take for those Repukes who voted for the Chimpy/Deadeye ticket to do likewise. Lie-berman ran in 2006 pretending to still be a Dem, while being financed by the moneyed reich wing sugar daddies. Lie-berman is one of the most dangerous of the fascist rite, which should be obvious to all but the 19% kool-aid drinking crowd who still worship Deadeye. Ned Lamont looks better with each passing day.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:44 pmIt was very interesting to hear Colin Powell this morning on MTP make the comments concerning the level of Al-Qaeda influence in Iraq…he said it was a small %. I don’t see why Lieberman just doesn’t go ahead a switch to the Republican party and be done with it! He is stirring the pot in preparation for the ‘end run’ strategy that Cheney is reportedly working to put in place. The pundits are all saying, that with Peter Pace going down it’s been a continuation of the Neocons falling by the wayside, but I feel that as long as Cheney (the defacto Commander in Chief) is within the administration there will be a strong and concerted effort to continue the destruction of our constitution and America as we know it.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:45 pm“Hey Toby, Shut the Fukc Up!!!!â€
Comment by Mr. President — June 10, 2007 @ 12:35 pm
Or THIS:
BURN IN HELL, AWOL COWARD TRAITOR COXUCKER PUNK BUSH .
I hope Hussein and Hitler get to TORTURE you there FOREVER.
Even BETTER!!!
June 10th, 2007 at 12:45 pmI think all fo you guys are worng. Joe is one the best
June 10th, 2007 at 12:45 pmsenators this country (Israel) ever had!
If we wanted that oil, we’d HAVE that oil.
Comment by Mr. President
You’re damn right, Mr. President. If we were truly there for their (or OUR) oil, we’d be using it to cream our morning coffee.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:49 pmYeah Toby,
Did you hear what Mr. BGTH said to ya:
BURN IN HELL, AWOL COWARD TRAITOR COXUCKER PUNK BUSH .
I hope Hussein and Hitler get to TORTURE you there FOREVER.
Even BETTER!!!
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 10, 2007 @ 12:45 pm
June 10th, 2007 at 12:49 pmIran is Shiite. We have put the Shiites in power in Iraq. The insurgency is largely Sunni. Our troops are primarily dying at the hands of Sunni insurgents. [...]
Comment by spit take — June 10, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
yep – but you left something very important out of that:
the sunni have ties to SAUDI ARABIA …
our buddies, right?
don’t forget to mention that part…
June 10th, 2007 at 12:50 pm…
Iran is Shiite. We have put the Shiites in power in Iraq. The insurgency is largely Sunni. Our troops are primarily dying at the hands of Sunni insurgents. […]
Comment by spit take — June 10, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
yep – but you left something very important out of that:
the sunni have ties to SAUDI ARABIA …
our buddies, right?
don’t forget to mention that part…
…
Comment by katy — June 10, 2007 @ 12:50 pm
There Is NO difference between sunnis and shiites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They can all be muslim shiteaters and islamo-fascists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who gives a shit what form of Mehometianism they follow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
June 10th, 2007 at 12:52 pmThe Drum Beat for War (Profit) continues.
With LIEberman as a Carnival Barker : the Clarion Call for More War, More Pandering to the Jewish Lobbby, More Hegemony, More Profit For Haliburton, Blackwater USA, Bechtel,
signals another bad turn in the Reckless Foreign Policy of the neoCONS.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:52 pm“If we wanted that oil, we’d HAVE that oil.
Comment by Mr. President
You’re damn right, Mr. President. If we were truly there for their (or OUR) oil, we’d be using it to cream our morning coffee.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 10, 2007″
wow. a cavalcade of tough talk from 2 trolls who are prime fighting age.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:52 pmComment by Zooey
Well, the President is making his own choices despite a sweeping election and other correct counter-intelligence. Zooey, this’ll be another tough 17 months to get though, so we may as well prepare for something that seems mandatory. The Senate may even confirm his meddling with Iran, who knows.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:53 pmIf we wanted that oil, we’d HAVE that oil.
Comment by Mr. President — June 10, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
You’re almost as arrogant as our great leader. If that’s so, why is Cheney making the passage of the Iraq Oil Law before the summer break such a priority for ‘progress’ in Iraq?
What about the thousands of oil workers that are currently on strike in Iraq? The good news for them is that they are not going to sit down and allow the government to hand over their industry to the Americans. That is the conflict going on right now that the press isnt’ talking about. It’s very unclear we’re going to be able to ram-rod this bill through the Iraqi government.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:53 pmwow. a cavalcade of tough talk from 2 trolls who are prime fighting age.
Comment by pgw — June 10, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
wow. a bunch of useless drivel from a dick who is over the hill
June 10th, 2007 at 12:54 pmIran has done nothing wrong , your opening a can of worms all because The American Goverment cannot talk ??? what a pathetic nation
Bush is worse than Hitler and sicker in the head – please take your president back and dont let that moron leave the mainland ever
June 10th, 2007 at 12:55 pmThere Is NO difference between sunnis and shiites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They can all be muslim shiteaters and islamo-fascists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who gives a shit what form of Mehometianism they follow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Comment by Mr. President — June 10, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
Mr. President, you are indeed so stupid that you don’t realize how this post reflects on you. You are clearly childish, ignorant, and incapable of carrying on a real debate about a serious political topic.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:56 pmYou’re almost as arrogant as our great leader. If that’s so, why is Cheney making the passage of the Iraq Oil Law before the summer break such a priority for ‘progress’ in Iraq?
What about the thousands of oil workers that are currently on strike in Iraq? The good news for them is that they are not going to sit down and allow the government to hand over their industry to the Americans. That is the conflict going on right now that the press isnt’ talking about. It’s very unclear we’re going to be able to ram-rod this bill through the Iraqi government.
Comment by Vinnie — June 10, 2007 @ 12:53 pm
Look, dickeater, there is no need to be rude,
Let’s be honest here. We could go in and slaughter every last shiteater in Islamabad if we wanted.
The only reason we do not is because of our international “perception,” you know, what that fukchead Powell was talking about. We don’t want people to think that we’re slapping people around like little bitches.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:56 pmActually, mr. “pResident”,
I meant the AWOL COWARD TRAITOR COXUCKER PUNK
which is YOU.
And I hope Hitler and Hussein, your FAMILY’S BUSINESS PARTNERS,
TORTURE YOU FOR ETERNITY.
By the way, Toby KEITH is another CHICKENHAWK COWARD like YOU,
“mr. president”.
You are in for a LONG ETERNITY of hell, mr pRESIDENT.
Much TORTURE and PAIN and AGONY to YOU forever in hell, mr. pResident.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:57 pmWell, the President is making his own choices despite a sweeping election and other correct counter-intelligence. Zooey, this’ll be another tough 17 months to get though, so we may as well prepare for something that seems mandatory. The Senate may even confirm his meddling with Iran, who knows.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
I’m talking about personal choices — not government choices. Are you going to choose to just let whatever happen, or are you going to try to do something about it?
June 10th, 2007 at 12:57 pmComment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell
Mr. President, we haven’t designated this one a terrorist organization. Whether he has a good case of whether Bush should, you know, go to hell, this one is suspicious.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:58 pmIraqi unions fight to keep oil out of corporate hands
The Bush administration calls the Iraq occupation an exercise in democracy building. Yet from the beginning, many of the Iraqis who want democracy most are treated as its enemies – Iraq’s unions.
The Bush administration won’t leave Iraq in part because that economic agenda is still insecure. Under Washington’s guidance, the Iraqi government wrote a new oil law in secret. The Iraq study commission, headed by oilman James Baker, called it the key to ending the occupation.
Like all Iraqi unionists, Juma’a says the occupation should end without demanding Iraq’s oil as a price. “The U.S.A. claimed that it came here as a liberator, not to control our resources,” he reminded Congress.
To win Iraqis’ respect, therefore, congressional opponents of the war must disavow the oil law. Whatever government holds power in Baghdad at the occupation’s end will need control of the oil wealth to rebuild their devastated country.
http://www.bushagenda.net/article.php?id=402
June 10th, 2007 at 12:58 pmMr. President, you are indeed so stupid that you don’t realize how this post reflects on you. You are clearly childish, ignorant, and incapable of carrying on a real debate about a serious political topic.
Comment by Vinnie — June 10, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
Look mofo, I was polite in my last post, but now you’ve done nothing but name call. YOU don’t have anything TO debate because you’re an emotional little bitch whose feelings might get hurt.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:59 pmComment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell
Mr. President, we haven’t designated this one a terrorist organization. Whether he has a good case of whether Bush should, you know, go to hell, this one is suspicious.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 10, 2007 @ 12:58 pm
Mr. BGTH is cool.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:59 pm“Let’s be honest here. We could go in and slaughter every last shiteater in Islamabad if we wanted.
Comment by Mr. President — June 10, 2007″
sign up tough guy. that way you could actually use ‘we’ in your posts and it would be the truth. and you might have trouble finding islamabad in iran.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:01 pmC the BS on fark-the-nayshun:
Geez-louise Senator Lieberman, if you want to stop Americans from being killed in Iraq, just get the Americans out of Iraq. It’s very simple, but I guess that the bleeding obvious just goes past the brilliance of ole white Joe…
Lieberman and the rest of the Bush oil-nazi crime family are just itching to start a 3rd war in the Middle East… After all, two failed occupations that have turned into Quagmires Royale aren’t enough for these idiots…
June 10th, 2007 at 1:02 pmComment by Zooey
I honestly don’t know what to do. Personally, I see that a simple protest around the White House wouldn’t do the trick. Plus, neo-conservatives have their nimble lightning-bolt government, so my personal decisions in this case mean nothing.
Got any ideas, though? Of official note, I offer NO support to invade Iran.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:02 pmComment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 10, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
I know who you were talking about, Mr. BGTH.
(I AM you)
See you in HELL you AWOL nazi-bootlicker,
Cokcsuxing TRAITOR punk.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:03 pmMr. BGTH
You’re clear.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:03 pmIf Bush gets Iraqs oil he will not attack Iran
Think About it
June 10th, 2007 at 1:03 pmsign up tough guy. that way you could actually use ‘we’ in your posts and it would be the truth. and you might have trouble finding islamabad in iran.
Comment by pgw — June 10, 2007 @ 1:01 pm
Shit, I don’t have to do shit, mothafuka.
Dat’s what the army fo, bitch.
TO FIGHT FOR MY FREEDOM!!!!!!
June 10th, 2007 at 1:04 pmMr President,
Your hate and indifference will eat you alive, and will have an effect on those around you. You don’t have to believe in karma to bear it’s consequences.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:04 pmI cannot see how anybody can be a Patriot in America anymore
To me I would be totally Ashamed of being American nowadays
and to be honest most are
June 10th, 2007 at 1:05 pmTobey > We in America wish that Bush would not return here from his trip to Europe and would instead go into exile with his entire family to Paraguay. Would you consider finding some nation to take VP Cheney?
June 10th, 2007 at 1:06 pmIf Bush gets Iraqs oil he will not attack Iran
Think About it
Comment by Tobey Tall — June 10, 2007 @ 1:03 pm
Toby, you’re a stupid little bitch.
I would love to stay and say that you embolden the enemy all day but I have to go.
But before I do, let me just say one thing which I have wanted to say for a while now:
YOUR NAME IS TOBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alright right CT, keep holding it down for me.
(By the way, I think people were saying that Stella is a fake)
June 10th, 2007 at 1:07 pmI don’t seem to get how defense is the only conservative issue in Lieberman’s otherwise liberal playbook. He’s been taking some big electoral risks in the Northeast. I would like to know how he does it.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:08 pmThere Is NO difference between sunnis and shiites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They can all be muslim shiteaters and islamo-fascists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who gives a shit what form of Mehometianism they follow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Comment by Mr. President — June 10, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
Sadly, this poor troll reflects the kind of thinking (if you can call it that) that drives the neocon side of the debate and much of our nation’s foreign policy.
I’m sure Mr. Pee is too ignorant to even be embarrassed.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:08 pmI FOUND A VIDEO ON BEING PATRIOTIC IN AMERICA TODAY
this is Mr President ( the Horrible troll ) on video and his America
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f30_1181298436
June 10th, 2007 at 1:10 pmComment by Mr. President
Someone forget their meds this morning?
June 10th, 2007 at 1:12 pmOr did you take too many?
(By the way, I think people were saying that Stella is a fake)
Comment by Mr. President
Well, even if it was a talking-points robot, it still had some good things to say. He’ll, I may even go back and review that thread.
Toby will be held down. Toby, go ask Pam to a date!
June 10th, 2007 at 1:13 pm“I don’t seem to get how defense is the only conservative issue in Lieberman’s otherwise liberal playbook.”
maybe if by “defense” you mean “really thoughtless and short-sighted foreign policy”
June 10th, 2007 at 1:14 pmYes Jay , Leave Cheney in Iran to fend for himself – that would be my dream cone true
June 10th, 2007 at 1:14 pmMr. President,
Enjoy your day. Be primed to strut your stuff later on.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:15 pmMr. President LOVES to create Chaos … too many TP threads turn to shit … sad.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:16 pmThen again, wasn’t Lieberman on the SecDef short-list?
June 10th, 2007 at 1:17 pmSooo.. Joe.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:18 pmYou figure the way to stop Muslims, al-Qaeda, whatever from killing the American soldiers who invaded and occupied their country is to send more American soldiers to invade and occupy more Muslim, al-Qaeda, whatever countries?
I think we have re-defined the the meaning of the word insanity.
This is an interesting article that explains better about ‘controlling’ the oil reserves and why we went to war:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5857
Top oil reserves list Saudi Arabia as #1. Iran is #3 and Iraq is #4. The US is #11.
Another interesting article:
June 10th, 2007 at 1:21 pmhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=2824
This one at the bottom of the page has a new map of the Middle East. Toss in a ittle bit of “New World Order”..
Comment by kdoug
Mr. President is only trying to forge a healthy debate. He means applesolutely no harmosity. Please accept that statement on my behalf.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:21 pmwhoops-had to do some work there….
June 10th, 2007 at 1:23 pmI’m good Zooey, a little tired-I helped raise over 600 dollars for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society yesterday..(I HATE YOU BUSH)
whoops-had to do some work there….
I’m good Zooey, a little tired-I helped raise over 600 dollars for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society yesterday..(I HATE YOU BUSH)
Comment by whiteyfresh
That’s cool, whitey. How did you do that?
You hate Bush (among other reasons) because he cut funding for cancer research?
June 10th, 2007 at 1:27 pm“Mr. President is only trying to forge a healthy debate.”
oh, so that’s what “There Is NO difference between sunnis and shiites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They can all be muslim shiteaters and islamo-fascists” means.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:27 pmLieberman. What breed is that? It’s a doberman and….what else?
June 10th, 2007 at 1:32 pmMr. President is only trying to forge a healthy debate. He means applesolutely no harmosity. Please accept that statement on my behalf.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Dream on, CT.
I don’t know what they are, but Mr P has deeper issues. He’s not here to debate — he’s here to vent his anger and pain.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:35 pmCompTROLLER > Joe’s name is Germanic and basically means Lover-man. I do not know why he has that name, because Joe is filled with hatred and knows nothing about love nor peace.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:37 pmComment by pgw
We’ll, Mr. President’s statements may be considered controversial by some, but his statement’s do invite conjecture – a good element of sound debate.
Who knows, some muslims could eat poop. It has got to be hard to find clean food in those ravaged areas. I suppose I could spin this into a “humanitarian” statement until Mr. President determines I misrepresented him and drops his endorsement of CompTROLLER V-1.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:38 pmComment by Zooey
You want me to keep dreaming? Fine, have it your way.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:41 pmDual allegiances, dude!
June 10th, 2007 at 1:42 pmComment by Jay Randal
The great state of ConnectiKILL!
June 10th, 2007 at 1:44 pmMr. President is only trying to forge a healthy debate. He means applesolutely no harmosity. Please accept that statement on my behalf.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Yeah, right……
You on the same meds he is on?
June 10th, 2007 at 1:45 pmAt least you are calm, even though your rationality is very questionable.
Personally I think if they do another aggression attack on another coutry that has posed no security threat to our home land that these people need to go to prison. Not just impeached or voted out. War crimes trials. In our own country. With more media than Paris Hilton is getting right now. For the whole world to see. That we do NOT accept this being done in our name.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:45 pmI hope Lieberman get his brains SPLATTERED in D.C. on a NICE, sunny day.
By an Iranian…
June 10th, 2007 at 1:47 pmDoes the whole Republican party have to go down? Can’t we just make a deal and give up GW and Cheney and all other neo-cons who want to reform Social Security and bomb all countries beginning with an “I”?
Is it possible to cut a deal for a shorter sentence?
June 10th, 2007 at 1:47 pmLieberman is neither R (Republican) nor D (Democrat)…
June 10th, 2007 at 1:49 pmHe is I (Israel)
We’ll, Mr. President’s statements may be considered controversial by some, but his statement’s do invite conjecture – a good element of sound debate. —- CompTROLLER V-1
Oh, really…..
There Is NO difference between sunnis and shiites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They can all be muslim shiteaters and islamo-fascists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr. Preznuttroll
Actually this statement reflects the total ignorance of Neocons, and why Iraq is the total mess it is today.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:51 pmYou defending this wacko shows your ignorance.
Comment by Wayne
I forgot to register for Debate in H.S. I’m only looking to catch up here, so thank you for allowing room for error.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:51 pmLieberman is neither R (Republican) nor D (Democrat)…
He is I (Israel)
Comment by tarazan
No, tarazan, he’s T (Traitor).
June 10th, 2007 at 1:52 pmThe reason the realities of war and imperialism never “click” with those on the “right” is because they lack empathy. They are utterly lacking in the ability to put themselves in other people’s shoes. I mean, can you IMAGINE what it would be like if we were being treated as we currently treat Iraq and much of the rest of the world?!?
If we were not a nuclear power, and Cuba was a Chinese-backed nuclear power in our backyard, we’d be pissed. Because that’s what Israel is to the Middle East…a permanent Cuban Missile Crisis.
If Panamanians had committed a terrorist act against China, blowing up the Forbidden City for example, and the world had helped to locate and root out the Panamanian terrorists, we might very well have watched on, letting the UN and a coalition of countries to do so. If they stopped short of capturing the terrorist leader, and left it to street gangs in Panama, the world would stand stunned and wonder, “Why?”
If China then proceeded to invade MEXICO on falsified intelligence, or cherry-picked intelligence, bombing their infrastructure into oblivion with “shock and awe”, killing hundreds of thousands of Mexicans, and sticking around for an occupation for 5+ years, we’d be furious, screaming to the UN and all who’d listen about Chinese imperialism. Americans by the drove would cross the border, armed, and fight against the Chinese army, or at least help arm Mexican insurgents.
Oh, by the way, even though there are millions of qualified Mexicans to do the work of rebuilding the infrastructure, controlling the oil reserves and fields that Mexico has, etc, Chinese corporations and their allies have gotten every single contract. No Mexicans work on these projects, when they do they make slave wages, while the Chinese that do less work around them, and screw up far, far more, make $100,000+ per year. Also, the Chinese are working on a “deal” that hands most of Mexico’s oil profits to Chinese corporations, leaving only 10-20% of the money from that oil in the hand of Mexicans. The Chinese are also setting up scores of permanent, huge military bases throughout Mexico.
Not being a nuclear power, America would very likely push their nuclear research program into full gear, to put into place the only deterrent they could muster against a fully-armed nuclear power like China, even if it meant they could potentially get into trouble with the rest of the world.
If this then allowed Chinese politicians and pundits to try for a push to invade the United States, what would we do? If China insisted that they must leave military force, including the use of nuclear weapons, to preemptively deal with America’s dangerous research into nuclear weaponry, what would we do? How would America react? How SHOULD America act in such a situation? How should any country?
Imagine that Brazil, who backs far more of the insurgents in Mexico than America does, is best friends with China, and, like Cuba, has no real repercussions for their actions. Also, most of the “Panamanian” terrorists involved in the Forbidden City Bombing were actually Brazilian citizens, not Panamanian, a fact that the Chinese MSM never reports.
Now, take it a step further. Imaging that decades ago, America had finally tried its hand at democracy and elected a democratic government for the first time in it’s history, finally wresting itself of the theocratic control the the Roman Catholic Church had over it for most of it’s history. Now, imagine if you will that China had, those many decades ago, marched in, destroyed our fledgling democratic government, and gave the Vatican its political control over the country back, ensuring a powerful level of theocratic control that much of the populace specifically voted to eliminate.
Now, imagine that Cuba has, for decades, been looting, pillaging, raping and otherwise committing massive amounts of atrocities upon the peoples of the various Caribbean islands. China has, for decades, backed Cuba up, regardless of how many atrocities and international laws they break, being the top offender of ignoring UN Resolutions, yet continue to face no backlash, thanks to the backing China (and others) give at all times. Anyone who has taken action against Cuba, even in self-defense, has had to deal with the full weight of Chinese economic sanctions and the threat of Chinese military force.
THAT IS THE WORLD THE MIDDLE EAST HAS LIVED WITH FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. THAT IS WHAT THEY MUST DEAL WITH EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIVES.
Would we put up with it? Hell, no! Why should the Iraqis, the Iranians, and countless others.
Empathy. The ability to feel what others feel, to place yourself, mentally, in the same situation as others, so as to understand their perspective. Empathy is a commodity that so very many people on the “right” lack.
Lack of empathy explains their backwards thinking on social programs and helping those less fortunate.
Lack of empathy explains their so-called patriotism, which is really nationalism, and is not at all healthy.
Lack of empathy, a common trait among sociopaths, and among so-called conservatives, and so-called Christians. These people act neither Christian, nor conservative. They are authoritarian con-artists, and they want your money, my money, you land, my land, they want everything, and they don’t want to share it with anyone.
They are scary individuals, and are part of a political and social movement that is more like a disease, and needs to be treated.
It all boils down to a lack of empathy.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:53 pmAttacking Iran at this time is not a U.S. military strongpoint.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:55 pmSo even if they had nukes, they couldn’t use them or they would be instantly destroyed.
Comment by Chris L
Right… now, 15 or 20 guys w/ box cutters, that’s a different story.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:55 pmI forgot to register for Debate in H.S.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Apparently you forgot to register for a lot in H.S. But take heart, Li’l Buddy, w/ Brush’s approach to foreign policy, it won’t be long before you get to register for the draft.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:57 pmJoe needs to bugger off to Isreal and leave our country alone.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:57 pmLieberman (Chickenhawk – CT)
June 10th, 2007 at 1:58 pmQuick related Note:
I’m extremely thankful that Lieberman has been rightly admonished by some of his most diehard supporters.
As Lieberman likes to say when it happens to benefit himself of course, his record in the Congress and at home does include a number of leftward leaning proclivities. However, we can take solace in just how fundamentally important it would become for America for Ned Lamont to be the one candidate who forced Lieberman to expose himself, to force him to take a position on the War in Iraq.
For I’m certain that if Lieberman were to have perhaps done the most reasonable thing–remain quiet on the Iraq War debate (or at least not as polemic)–I truly believe that he would have naturally become a close ally to whoever it is that might consider having him as a running mate just as he was in 2000 with Al Gore.
But for Who??
The truly mad thing about all of this is not whether or not he would adorn the VP Democratic ticket. No, rather than this, it’s been my suspicion that he would have found himself as John McCain’s running mate.
Of course while it is natural to assume that this would immediately fire up the Democratic base there’s also the notion that American voters–perhaps within a political climate of polarization and war time polemics, might actually skew towards the majority of moderates.
I know it’s relatively ahistorical to say that such a tandem would ever work, but there is something to say about McCain and Lieberman’s very close relationship. There’s something to say about the appearance of bipartisanship, at least when viewed in the current context regarding all the other presidential candidates.
And so, it’s fortunate that Karl Rove and the Bush administration—Dick Cheney in particular, and a growing chorus of right-wing pundits are endorsing him.
If Lamont and a few others had not run on one particular issue that really ended up providing the American public with Lieberman’s true political destiny and calling this, I’m extremely certain that our country could very well put a man in the White House who framed himself as the spokesman of liberal politics all the while doing everything he possibly can to further the current status quo as it relates to the single most important issue of our generation and times: the War in Iraq.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:59 pmThere Is NO difference between sunnis and shiites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They can all be muslim shiteaters and islamo-fascists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr. Preznuttroll
Damn… more of that incredibly articulated, efficacious political thought mr p is famous for. “Muslim shiteaters”… how does one reply to a talking point like that?
June 10th, 2007 at 1:59 pmComment by Moderation — Exactly right regarding the lack of empathy.
June 10th, 2007 at 2:04 pm“… and bomb all countries beginning with an “Iâ€?”
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Oh great, now they want to attack Indiana and Iowa, and don’t forget Iceland, or Ice Cube, or (Julio) Iglesias. Julio, they should simply bomb back into the Stone Age.
June 10th, 2007 at 2:04 pmGot fu*k yourself Lieberman.
June 10th, 2007 at 2:07 pmComment by the republic of stupidity
Maybe you ought to understand how instating a draft is hypocritical to an “anti-war” movement. And for all you and I know, the draft and can send ANYBODY to war, even anti-war protestors. You’re not allowed to simply choose people because they are born into a high-income family or share views different from yours (ex., right-wing). Contrary to your beliefs, that’s not how the draft works. The all-volunteer force works and not everybody can go into combat.
Of note, I tried to enlist in the military (the Navy, specifically), but was physically unqualified to do so because of a hearing impairment. The military does have very strict physical requirements. I may even try again and go for a waiver (in that case, I’ve decided to try the Army or Marines).
June 10th, 2007 at 2:09 pmSo TP why do you continue to ban my posts? How progressive of you.
June 10th, 2007 at 2:11 pmComment #144 by the republic of stupidity
I think I said “countries.”
June 10th, 2007 at 2:12 pmMaybe you ought to understand how instating a draft is hypocritical to an “anti-war†movement.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
And when you’re not busy coming online attacking us, maybe you need to STOP… and think about the fact that you wholeheartedly support a president who seems determined to start WW III. Me, I don’t want a draft. YOU’RE the one who supports this insane Admin and their endless militarism, Child.
As for your “disabilities”, could be true, could be an attmept to embarrass someone. Dunno, don’t care.
June 10th, 2007 at 2:18 pmHEYOOOOO!
June 10th, 2007 at 2:18 pmlast time I checked, Iceland was a bonafied country. Try telling all the gentle Icelandians that you consider their beloved homeland to be a proper country.
June 10th, 2007 at 2:19 pmComment by Moderation — Exactly right regarding the lack of empathy.
Comment by JTitor
Isnt a lack of empathy normally associated with Autism?
June 10th, 2007 at 2:21 pmComment by Gerald Gibson — ??? Elaborate.
June 10th, 2007 at 2:23 pm[Test]
June 10th, 2007 at 2:26 pmComment by Gerald Gibson — ??? Elaborate.
Comment by JTitor
Yes, please…..
June 10th, 2007 at 2:28 pm#
To think Gore wanted this guy for VP.
Here the wingnuts are recycling stories.
This is classic.
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6184.html#comments
Comment by Langx — June 10, 2007 @ 11:42 am
#
Do you think a wingnut would recycle a story as if its todays news?
Will they go to no length to misinform the faithful.
This is a classic
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6184.html#comments
Comment by Mike Crotch — June 10, 2007 @ 11:23 am
#
Look – a clear example of the abuse of comments by a troll who is posting under multiple names!
Please ignore Mike Crotch and Langx.
June 10th, 2007 at 2:29 pmThe “saber rattling” (continued today by Senator Lieberman) on Iran MUST explain the choice of a Navy man to replace Peter Pace for the top Military post. The next “war” will be fought from the waters:
http://OsiSpeaks.com or http://OsiSpeaks.org
June 10th, 2007 at 2:35 pm“……could be an attmept to embarrass someone. Dunno, don’t care.”
…whatever that means.
-Comment by the republic of stupidity
Well, you may not be psychologically-fit for military service, but you offer nice conspiracy theories. As well, even if I did fully support this administration, it doesn’t diminish my patriotism or worth as an American.
Name calling like yours only gives the anti-war movement a bad name. As recently documented by NBC, they’re tapping in to post fake anti-war websites in an attempt to weaken the morale and fighting will of our troops. If Republicans are placing too much pressure on the forces serving on the ground, Democrats aren’t doing much more to help. Democrats, too, have some explaining to do.
June 10th, 2007 at 2:36 pmCorrection to #158: Jihadists, not American anti-war groups, are posting fake anti-war websites.
June 10th, 2007 at 2:44 pmdang later all.gotta bounce!
June 10th, 2007 at 2:46 pmCorrection to #158: Jihadists, not American anti-war groups, are posting fake anti-war websites.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
I guessing you have a link of some sort…to a reputable news source, of course.
June 10th, 2007 at 2:51 pmdang later all.gotta bounce!
Comment by whiteyfresh
Later Tigger…..I mean, whitey. :D
June 10th, 2007 at 2:51 pmHow long will it take for those Dems in CT who voted for Lie-berman to admit that they were completely duped? Perhaps as long as it will take for those Repukes who voted for the Chimpy/Deadeye ticket to do likewise. Lie-berman ran in 2006 pretending to still be a Dem, while being financed by the moneyed reich wing sugar daddies. Lie-berman is one of the most dangerous of the fascist rite, which should be obvious to all but the 19% kool-aid drinking crowd who still worship Deadeye. Ned Lamont looks better with each passing day.
June 10th, 2007 at 3:04 pmIf Lie-berman were to be fair (an impossible stretch, to be sure), if the U.S. is obligated to attack Iran for supplying freedom fighters in Iraq, then Saudi Arabia should also be targeted for supplying Sunni operatives in Iraq as well.
And what is the basis for Iran sending support to factions in Iraq? Perhaps the same prevaricators who trumpeted WMDs, yellowcake uranium, etc. to support the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq.
So, which countries will join with the United States as part of the “coalition of the willing” to attack Iran? The answer to such a question would be quite telling, to be sure.
June 10th, 2007 at 3:18 pm“As well, even if I did fully support this administration, it doesn’t diminish my patriotism or worth as an American.”
comment by CompTroller V-1
Riiight, and it doesn’t diminsh my patriotism either, or worth as an American. BTW, I never said it did. I think you’re disingenuous when you come to TP, immediately start attacking everyone in sight, and then feel sorry for yourself when we push back. Page 1 right out of the Rush Limbaugh playbook.
“Name calling like yours only gives the anti-war movement a bad name.”
What did I call you… Child? Oh pul-lease… that’s probably the politest name you’ve been called all week. And seeing as I’m 53, and you’re ???, You probably qulify as a child. Where’s the name calling?
Now, if I had called a whole group of people a truly disgusting name like, oh, I dunno, “Muslim shiteaters”, you might have a vaild point to make.
Mr. President is only trying to forge a healthy debate. He means applesolutely no harmosity. Please accept that statement on my behalf.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Oh, wait, you DO support this sort of incendiary, vitriolic name-calling. Hmm, oh, well, hypocrisy is its own reward, uh, Li’l CT…
June 10th, 2007 at 3:27 pm“They’re in church — having the good word go in one ear, and out the other.
Have a little respect! :P
/sarc
Comment by Zooey — June 10, 2007″
Mommy and daddy let you out of your room?
June 10th, 2007 at 3:30 pmMommy and daddy let you out of your room?
Comment by michael
Hey, Michael, your Mom’s calling. She needs to go bail your Dad out of the drunk tank, again, so she needs her clothes back.
June 10th, 2007 at 3:31 pmCorrection to #158: Jihadists, not American anti-war groups, are posting fake anti-war websites.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Hmmm, what about those really, really convincing little clips our Army keeps posting on YouTube?
June 10th, 2007 at 3:33 pmMommy and daddy let you out of your room?
Comment by michael
You really shouldn’t use your best lines right out of the gate, mikey.
June 10th, 2007 at 3:48 pmIllegal spying,
politicizing of DOj and the WHOLE GOVERNMENT
corporate welfare
subverting justice by trying to go around ACTING AG James Comey…
exposing of COVERT CIA SPIES who specialized in WMDS, for REVENGE…
election tampering
covering up of records of Reagan and Bush41, & IranContra TREASON.
ILLEGAL WARS, LIES about WMD’s
LIES about “temporary” SURGES.
All the TROLLS do is try to personally insult the people showing FACTS,
right out of the Rove playbook…
The FACTS and the REAL ISSUES are those Bush CRIMES shown above.
God Bless America, Democrats, innocent Iraqi civilians and the WORLD!
to HELL with MURDEROUS subhuman scum like Osama and Bush, old friends…
June 10th, 2007 at 3:50 pmCan we afford a third war?
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/06/senator-joe-lieberman-rachets-up-saber.html#links
June 10th, 2007 at 3:59 pmWar without cause is murder, not war.
June 10th, 2007 at 4:12 pmWar without cause is murder, not war.
June 10th, 2007 at 4:15 pm“Cheney is planning to deploy an ‘end run strategy’ around the President if he and his team lose the policy argument…â€
Yoo hoo, Chimpy…… You might want to get a handle on your VP — you are HIS BOSS….remember?
Are you kidding? Chimpy is f*cking terrified of Cheney! If Cheney says “jump”, Smirky snaps to, and says “HOW HIGH?!!!!!”
June 10th, 2007 at 4:16 pmLIEBERMAN FOR PRESIDENT!!….
….of Israel.
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BREAK THE LINK AND LET BUSH DO HIS OWN FIGHT
June 10th, 2007 at 4:21 pm7 US Reps for Cheney Impeachment
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Submitted by davidswanson
Here is the process that culminated in our Rep. making the call to cosponsor the bill to impeach Cheney:
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June 10th, 2007 at 4:24 pm3508
NEWS
Iraq bridge collapse traps U.S. soldiers
MAHMOUDIYA, Iraq – With a thunderous rumble and cloud of dust and smoke, an apparent suicide vehicle bomb brought down a section of highway bridge south of Baghdad on Sunday, wounding several U.S. soldiers
http://news.yahoo.com/
June 10th, 2007 at 4:26 pmMr. President,
I said your post made you sound stupid and childish. I stand by that. That is really not name-calling. Anyway, if you want to debate fine. Here’s my response to your comments:
“There Is NO difference between sunnis and shiites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Actually, there are many significant differences between the two. As in America with Protestantism and Catholocishm, the differences may seen trivial to a non-Christian but Christians often feel very strongly about these differences. If you will Google “Sunni Shiite” you will find many references that provide ample documentation to show that these are in fact two different religious sects.
“They can all be muslim shiteaters and islamo-fascists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
If you implying that many Muslims eat their own feces you will need to provide documented examples of this. My apologies if you were merely hurling racist epithets and did not intend to make a comment on the dietary habits of Muslims. If so, I will ignore that since racist remarks should not be considered in a serious debate.
I’m afraid there’s no real correlation between Islam and Fascism. You would need to establish the connection between the two. The traditional “Fascists” were associated with Nazi Germany in WWII. I don’t think there are many, if any, modern Islamic movements that adhere to Nazi philosophy. While the term has been used by a number of prominent Republican politicians, there is no established link between the two. You’ll need to provide this.
You also state that they “can all be …”. This is a vague statement that is hard to counter. It is also valid to say “They could all be aliens.”
“Who gives a shit what form of Mehometianism they follow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11″
Well, the billions of people in this world who believe in Islam are probbably concerned about the various forms of Islam. Just as Christians are concerned about the various types of Chrisitianity.
The bottom line is that your comments represent the most base form of racism. Of course, racism is primarily founded on an ignorance of the other culture that is being targetted. Your complete apathy towards understanding their culture is a prime example of why any type of peaceful solution to the Middle East conflict completely evades your way of thinking.
June 10th, 2007 at 4:34 pmComment by Vinnie — June 10, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
Listen up, m’boy, and listen good.
You’ve taken my remarks out of context (say that’s not you on the other thread talking about sham philosopher Noam Chomsky is it?).
Here is what ya missed:
This whole “Iran is killing our troops in Iraq†meme is nonsense.
Iran is Shiite. We have put the Shiites in power in Iraq. The insurgency is largely Sunni. Our troops are primarily dying at the hands of Sunni insurgents. I doubt very seriously if Iran is supplying Sunnis with weapons.
If it suited the administration’s purposes (and Lieberman’s, although it goes without saying that their purposes are one and the same), then you know they would be talking about Sunni insurgents.
But it works better for them if people think that the Iraqis are all freedom-loving people who want to get along, but they can’t because foreign al-Qaeda terrorists keep making trouble. And if the “Sunni†part of the insurgency was highlighted, then more Americans might put two-and-two together and realize that Iran’s part in the deaths of Americans is really minimal.
Comment by spit take — June 10, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
And then there was this:
Iran is Shiite. We have put the Shiites in power in Iraq. The insurgency is largely Sunni. Our troops are primarily dying at the hands of Sunni insurgents. […]
Comment by spit take — June 10, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
yep – but you left something very important out of that:
the sunni have ties to SAUDI ARABIA …
our buddies, right?
don’t forget to mention that part…
…
Comment by katy — June 10, 2007 @ 12:50 pm
So I said this:
Iran is Shiite. We have put the Shiites in power in Iraq. The insurgency is largely Sunni. Our troops are primarily dying at the hands of Sunni insurgents. […]
Comment by spit take — June 10, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
yep – but you left something very important out of that:
the sunni have ties to SAUDI ARABIA …
our buddies, right?
don’t forget to mention that part…
…
Comment by katy — June 10, 2007 @ 12:50 pm
There Is NO difference between sunnis and shiites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They can all be muslim shiteaters and islamo-fascists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who gives a shit what form of Mehometianism they follow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Comment by Mr. President — June 10, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
Meaning, who gives a shit what form of Mehometianism (is this how they used to spell it, ahh who cares?) they follow?
As to YOUR remarkably RACIST response… that’s all you cuz.
I didn’t say a damn thing about race,
YOU DID!
June 10th, 2007 at 4:51 pmthe usa has to get the isreal firsters out of its government asap pdq rfn
i could not care less about zionland
and those people should not be america’s priority or concern
June 10th, 2007 at 5:05 pmLIEberman = CUA/I!!! Completely Useless American/Israeli
LIEberman is the only Senator from Israel!!!
June 10th, 2007 at 5:06 pmLIEberman’s thoughts on anything having to do with democracy in this country are unwelcome. He is a traitor!! He is an enemy of this country. He is an enemy of the people. He is a friend of outsiders and and their ignorance!!!
June 10th, 2007 at 5:10 pmAgain, from the last post,
The SAUDI ARABIANS are financing the Al Queda SUNNIS.
Our “friends”?
No.
But DEFINITELY BUSH’S FRIENDS.
And yesterday it was revealed that the Saudi Prince, Bandar bin Sultan, profited $2 BILLION from the sale of warplanes during the Reagan era.
His nickname was given to him by the Bush family:
Bandar Bush
Bush & his family are International CRIMINALS & TRAITORS to the USA
June 10th, 2007 at 5:12 pmLieberman = Foreign Agent
Arrest him for treason.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:20 pm#163 Comment by curmudgeon — June 10, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
Lie-berman is one of the most dangerous of the fascist rite, which should be obvious to all but the 19% kool-aid drinking crowd who still worship Deadeye.
You give Lie-berman way too much credit. He is more a suck up than a menace like Wolfowitz was or Pearl, Feith or Cheney. Or Ledeen! Joementum is just an enabling trumpet for his “betters.”
June 10th, 2007 at 5:36 pmAll of this is yet ANOTHER reason for increased transparency in our government, especially at the Federal level. Every single meeting with every lobbyist must be public knowledge. Every meeting with a foreign national in the halls of government must be public knowledge.
We would know, then, just how often and how fairly our representatives act with regards to lobbies. We would know if Lieberman has vastly more meetings with AIPAC representatives, and representatives from the Military Industrial Complex, while brushing off scores of “lesser” (in his eyes) lobbyists. We would know how often Cheney meets with oil executives, and other groups that have vested interests at odds with the best interests of the country.
All of this must be transparent. Our form of government does not WORK without transparency! When transparency and investigations alike reveal malicious intent, or other forms of malfeasance, than strong, public, and unabashed oversight to put the offenders in their place (most likely prison) must be exercised. None of this garbage where you are “sanctioned” for money far lower than what you’ve taken in bribes, and can therefore easily afford. None of this impeachment with no teeth crap, where you still get to serve office to term. This calls for hard time. Harder time than any misdemeanor. Harder time than any of the lesser felonies, even. These kinds of crimes, be they government or corporate in nature, where a person affects hundreds of thousands, to millions of individuals with their actions must be punished very severely indeed. If a politician in high office knows that the $100,000 bribe they are taking will mean 20 years in prison if they are caught, that person is on camera most of the time, and every meeting they have is immediately added to the public record and put online, that person is vastly less likely to take that bribe. In fact, many of the people likely to take such a bribe would not run for public office if such an office were under those levels of public scrutiny. They would stick to the business world for their dirty deeds, or become a part of the criminal network they oh-so-long to be a part of.
People like Lieberman, who are more beholden to the interests of another nation whose policies constantly put the national security of any country backing them at grave risk, would not be able to hide just how often they meet with such individuals or groups. If our politicians were photographed and hounded by the press to the degree that celebrities are by the paparazzi, I guarantee you, their foul deeds would be infinitely harder to hide.
The first generation or two of politicians under such a system would yield massive numbers of firings, resignations, and public embarrassment. But, the Republic would stand stronger than ever, with a brighter future than it has seen in a long, long time (since the push by the corporations to give themselves all of the benefits and securities of being a citizen, with none of the limits and social responsibility, as well as the current group of war-profiteers that come back every couple decades to try to get America into perpetual war yet AGAIN).
Help the Republic stand strong again. Fight these fascists, who want a corporate-owned government in a state of perpetual war. Fight them to the bitter end.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:41 pm-Test-
June 10th, 2007 at 5:54 pmKilling soldiers’ humanity
The American military is training its soldiers to become so inured to killing that it becomes easy.
‘Over here, killing people is like squashing an ant. I mean, you kill somebody and it’s like ‘All right, let’s go get some pizza’.”
http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/killing-soldiers-humanity/2007/06/03/1180809336364.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
June 10th, 2007 at 5:59 pmIf you go to this website you can get to the link to write letters to the editor of all the daily newspapers in Connecticut.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_all_newspapers_in_the_United_States#Connecticut
I just emailed all of them this letter:
Dear Editor
In November 2006 the good people of Connecticut had a choice of who you wanted representing you in Washington DC as your Senator. You could stay with the status quo and send Joe Lieberman back or you could elect a fresh face named Ned Lamont who promised to listen to the people and their wishes.
Scared of losing his seat Joe LIeberman morphed and told you he wanted to end the war in Iraq. Unfortunately 60 percent of Connecticut voters listened to Lieberman’s line and you sent him back to Washington.
Today on Face the Nation your Senator, who portrayed himself as anti-war to get re-elected had this to say about Iran:
“I think we have to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq,†Lieberman said. Host Bob Schieffer followed-up: “Let’s just stop right there. Because I think you probably made some news here, Senator Lieberman. You’re saying that if the Iranians don’t let up, that the United States should take military action?†“I am,†Lieberman responded
I sincerely hope that the voters of Connecticut now understand what they got when they insisted on returning Joe and his years in Congress back to Congress. I also hope that you have the fortitude to initiate a recall election to remove him before more damage can be done. I am not from Connecticut but Holy Joe is an embarassment to me. I can only imagine what people from the state think of the chief propagandist for the Bush administration in the Senate.
Please consider doing the same
June 10th, 2007 at 6:00 pmLOL @ CT voters. Are you proud of the buffoon you elected?
June 10th, 2007 at 6:10 pmThanks again TP for blocking my posts about certain Jewish organizations that you somehow feel shouldn’t be held accountable,
June 10th, 2007 at 6:15 pmor the mention of these groups be raised in this forum, even though Lieberman is aligned and my posts were on topic. Why do you continue to pick and choose what is allowed to be posted, and based on what criteria?
Someone wanted to know who Lieberman is serving. I think the man’s allegiance is to more to Israel than to the U.S. — as for his home state constituents, he forgot about them long ago.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:17 pmThanks again TP for blocking my posts. Please post how you choose what is allowed to be posted, and post this criteria on your website so I’ll know next time how I should goose step for you.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:25 pmI see that you issued a “TP migrated servers and we’re still experiencing a few technical issues, including delays in comments showing up. We hope to have everything fixed shortly. Thanks for your patience. 5:39 pm” Yah. Bullshiit. So the comments that I posted three days ago are going to be posted when?
June 10th, 2007 at 6:34 pmThis senator has been a mole since birth.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:11 pmComment by Gerald Gibson — ??? Elaborate.
Comment by JTitor
Yes, please…..
Comment by Zooey
Elaborate on what comment? Autism? Look up on google… Autism and Empathy
June 10th, 2007 at 7:17 pm[Test #2]
June 10th, 2007 at 7:18 pmElaborate on what comment? Autism? Look up on google… Autism and Empathy
Comment by Gerald Gibson
Elaborate on this comment: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/10/lieberman-bomb-iran/#comment-3850242
I have enough experience with autism, I don’t need the google. I just want to know what your comment is about. Lieberman?
June 10th, 2007 at 7:25 pmJeebus Xrated Kreist.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:27 pmWe need to be ready to cart this moron out in a wheelbarrow, if he keeps coming up with asinine shit like this.
[Test #3]
June 10th, 2007 at 7:40 pmI think that we should nuke Connecticut instead, as a gesture of appreciation, for putting this A**HOLE back in office.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:50 pm[Test #4]
June 10th, 2007 at 7:51 pm[Test #5]
June 10th, 2007 at 7:52 pm[Test #6]
June 10th, 2007 at 7:52 pmJoe Lieberman is sick. Twisted. And his tie is too wide. As well, he’s a horse’s ass. I guess that about covers it.
June 10th, 2007 at 8:08 pmThis Guy is Too Smart to be a Democrat , I’ll tell you what we will trade you McCain for him . what do you say Demwits wanna trade ?
June 10th, 2007 at 8:55 pmI like the way you guys berate and eat your own if they have a more intelligent view or opinion .
June 10th, 2007 at 8:58 pmEnough already! Can’t Conneticut recall this evil bastard. Can we sever Conneticut from the Union? How can a highly educated relatively wealthy state elect such a bastard and not be held accountable? Somebody’s got to put a stop to this horrible man’s recklessness.
June 10th, 2007 at 9:00 pmi say we just blow up the whole god damn middle east and end all this bullshit.
June 10th, 2007 at 9:03 pm#
No one believes this crap about “proof†and “bases†and “evidenceâ€. We’ve seen it all before.
Americans have to stop their government from going over the edge. The country is hurtling headlong into war criminality and fascism.
The real war is the war for the soul of America.
Comment by Freaked-Out Canadian — June 10, 2007 @ 11:48 am
You are so right…. we have this fascist neocon corporate owned media to blame as they keep the masses entertained with Paris Hilton and rich missing white women. The only news I can trust is international news.
June 10th, 2007 at 9:34 pmAlso, our public school system teaches very little about our government and our rights – it is appalling.
Why isn’t Canada helping US when we have these obvious election frauds going on?
This is about Cheney. I agree that he is lining up the Navy to go after Iran. This is what the change in chief of staff is all about. Those ships in the middleeast. Cheney is not our president and should not be allowed to have his own agenda. Lieberman, the neocon, is the voice. Bob Schieffer really screwed up here. The Sunday press needs to be a little more careful about allowing this type of warmongering. Unless they are behind it. Schieffer did nothing to argue that Lieberman was not correct about the 200 US deaths. What is that? Liar!
June 10th, 2007 at 9:36 pmCheney needs to be Impeached. Bottom line.
whoa nelly!! – does he want to bomb iran because of their noo-kew-lar programme or because apparently they are now al quaeda in iraq?? – i’m confused.
June 10th, 2007 at 9:37 pmand#62 jay randal – darth vader is far more clever than the leibernator – comparing a sinister,cunning, ficticious villain to a real life shit for brains moron whose only power is the natural gift of making dumb-ass statements is an insult to sinister cunning ficticious villains
Over 200 comments from the scurge of the earth, demonic liberal nation. We are really in deep do do. What a spineless bunch of name calling losers. I say HURRAY for Joe. Joe for President. If any of you were in charge, the good ol USA would be a peacenik page in some history book. You believe the jihadist before you believe your own leaders. What a shame. I pray we wake up before we are rounded up like the sheep you claim to be. You embarrass me.
June 10th, 2007 at 9:44 pmHey Bonnie , in reference to comment # 16 , if there were no warmongers dwilling to fight and die for democracy there would be no democracy . the problems Liberals are not smart enough to figure that out .
June 10th, 2007 at 10:15 pmdoubleagel they are going to call you a troll and Nazi , ignore them everyday they leave their brains in the commode
June 10th, 2007 at 10:18 pmdarth vader just to please you liberals I prefer to wait till Iran with hundreds of thousands of young men wishing to become martyrs sends some over to blow up New York City , L.A. or Chicago with a nuclear device . then you guys would shut up . But Bush being more of a man than any of you will not do that , thank God
June 10th, 2007 at 10:24 pmMeah Bottoms Inpeach Chaney , then Bush , President Polosi will then Bring the troops home to show that we are a nation of spineless cowards . The Terrorist will follow and Kill all of you guys because as all Trolls Know you guys would not fight for anything , thats why Trolls call you Spineless Cowards : P
June 10th, 2007 at 10:33 pmHey Had Enough , can I have some of that stuff that you are smoking ? are you tring to say that NBC , CBS , ABC , CNN MSNBC and Hedline News are neocon corporate owned media . either you are smoking something or you are stupid
June 10th, 2007 at 10:37 pm1979
Nov. 4, Tehran, Iran: Iranian radical students seized the U.S. embassy, taking 66 hostages. 14 were later released. The remaining 52 were freed after 444 days on the day of President Reagan’s inauguration.
1982–1991
Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in captivity, and some were eventually released. Terry Anderson was held for 2,454 days.
1983
April 18, Beirut, Lebanon: U.S. embassy destroyed in suicide car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 marines. Minutes later a second bomb killed 58 French paratroopers in their barracks in West Beirut.
Dec. 12, Kuwait City, Kuwait: Shiite truck bombers attacked the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80.
1984
Sept. 20, east Beirut, Lebanon: truck bomb exploded outside the U.S. embassy annex, killing 24, including 2 U.S. military.
Dec. 3, Beirut, Lebanon: Kuwait Airways Flight 221, from Kuwait to Pakistan, hijacked and diverted to Tehran. 2 Americans killed.
1985
April 12, Madrid, Spain: Bombing at restaurant frequented by U.S. soldiers, killed 18 Spaniards and injured 82.
June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA Flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17 days. A U.S. Navy diver executed.
Oct. 7, Mediterranean Sea: gunmen attack Italian cruise ship, Achille Lauro. One U.S. tourist killed. Hijacking linked to Libya.
Dec. 18, Rome, Italy, and Vienna, Austria: airports in Rome and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were Americans. Bombing linked to Libya.
1986
April 2, Athens, Greece:A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight 840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and injuring 9.
April 5, West Berlin, Germany: Libyans bombed a disco frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds.
1988
Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747 exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground. Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15 years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to victims’ families.
1993
Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected.
1995
April 19, Oklahoma City: car bomb exploded outside federal office building, collapsing wall and floors. 168 people were killed, including 19 children and 1 person who died in rescue effort. Over 220 buildings sustained damage. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols later convicted in the antigovernment plot to avenge the Branch Davidian standoff in Waco, Tex., exactly 2 years earlier. (See Miscellaneous Disasters.)
Nov. 13, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military headquarters, killing 5 U.S. military servicemen.
1996
June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. 13 Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.
1998
Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. 4 men connected with al-Qaeda 2 of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large.
2000
June 10th, 2007 at 10:40 pmOct. 12, Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up alongside it. 17 sailors killed. Linked to Osama bin Laden, or members of al-Qaeda terrorist network.
doubleagle post 214 > did your brain fall out and a dog ate it? If you love Joe, then marry him and run to Israel together.
June 10th, 2007 at 10:40 pmFRANK CORNBREAD talk about the kettle calling the skillet black
June 10th, 2007 at 10:42 pmsometime you need to kick them in the ass to learn them Peace
June 10th, 2007 at 10:43 pm#218 – and there’s a Commie under every bed…go cower in fear in your gas guzzling SUV for you are the real coward. Under Bush we are nation of fools and the sooner we correct the worst foreign policy blunder in the history of America, the better for American and the rest of the world. Then we need to launch a “Manhattan Project” for alternative energy to get this country off its addiction to Middle Eastern oil. The House of Bush and the House of Saud can go sort out their financial issues at the Carlyle Group. Finally, the last thing we need is more delusional foriegn policy that Lieberman of Mesopotamia advocates which is nothing short of throwing gasoline on the fire.
June 10th, 2007 at 10:45 pmdloberk
June 10th, 2007 at 10:56 pmyou should protest by throwing gas on yourseld and lighting it . that would work and make a good Youtube Vido . but better would you goinging to baghdad and teaching the Terrorist Peace . they we would get to hear your Screams before your head rolls across the floor on a Youtube Video that would be a Hoot !!!! do either one please
God I love this Website
June 10th, 2007 at 10:57 pmJay Randal your a stupid cunt
June 10th, 2007 at 10:59 pmand a commie cunt at that
June 10th, 2007 at 11:00 pmObamayomamma > read your own post 225. Does it sound rational to you? Are you drunk or on drugs? What is “goinging”? What is “yourseld”?
June 10th, 2007 at 11:00 pmHarry Truman > you have a nasty mouth that needs washing out with lye soap badly.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:02 pmits funny how you liberals have no problem dishing out the name calling , but seem to have a problem taking it . that must be a Liberal thing
June 10th, 2007 at 11:19 pmLOL Truman > your words mean nothing to me. You act like a GOPer teenager on here.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:22 pmIf D-Day were today, how would the liberal media cover it?
June 10th, 2007 at 11:22 pmGreat Youtube vid on this!
Jay Randal thank you for the complement , yes I am a Republican , but I am 50 yrs old not a teenager like you , you are still living with Mommy and Daddy are you not ? ?. remember that old saying , if you are not a liberal at 20yrs of age you have no heart , if you are liberal at 40 you have no brain and are a fool ?
June 10th, 2007 at 11:28 pmGo check out CBS’s take on this: They actually have Lieberman listed as a Democrat.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:35 pmWhat a troll hole this place has become.
Neocons, please start making up your own lines and thinking for yourselves.
Really!
And to dawn the name of a former US President, while uttering such filth. Disgraceful. Go to church little boy.
Fact of the matter is that you neocons can have Leiberman without charge. Truth is :We don’t need any of your kind over on the side of righteousness (same side Jesus is on by the way, swine).
June 10th, 2007 at 11:37 pmFalse democracy proponent abound.
Yeah, we went to war in Iraqto promote democracy.
At the same time we continue to spit in democracies face in Pakistan, by continuing to support a dictator who came into power in military coup.
Well I guess it’s one of those good dictatorships…..you know like Saddam Hussein was before he attacked Kuwait.
How tiersome the neocon mantra, how boring. One more election and they will have no voice whatsoever. I, for one, am looking forward to that day.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:42 pmLOL Truman you are one dumb nasty 50 year old > lol. Those who use “c–t” word are either teenagers or degenerates like yourself. Duh we all know you are a Republican, but whatever age you are for real > grow up!
June 10th, 2007 at 11:46 pmStudy says the Death Penalty Deters Crime
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070611/ap_on_re_us/death_penalty_deterrence
We need to destroy the fundamentalist Muslims to provide the same deterrent.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:57 pmJay Randal Fella you should not be telling people to grow up till you do , like I said you people dish out the name calling but can’t take it . then you start acting like your self richeous when you are nothing more than a liberal hypocrite . there I cleaned up the Language and am now above your level : )
June 10th, 2007 at 11:58 pmnighty nite dimwits
June 10th, 2007 at 11:59 pmoops , typo there thats Demwits not dimwits you have brains , just choose not to use then, thats another Liberal Trait
June 11th, 2007 at 12:00 amEargy Earp I am sure that Jesus would just stand there and let a whole Culture be destroyed by the supposedly peaceful muslims in the Name of his Father God . He Died on The Cross so that we could stop the Muslims with forgiveness . how do you stop them ? you Kill Them Before They Kill You . but liberals would rather commit assisted suicide which is a sin . so do not act like you presume to know what he would do . you do not .
June 11th, 2007 at 12:09 amRussell Kirk was one the the leading post-war conservative intellectuals and was at best lukewarm about the neo-conservatives. Here’s one indictment from a lecture he gave at the Heritage Foundation(1):
“And not seldom it has seemed as if some eminent Neoconservatives mistook Tel Aviv for the capital of the United States..”
(1)
June 11th, 2007 at 12:19 amDecember 15, 1988
The Neoconservatives: An Endangered Species
by Kirk, Russell
Heritage Lecture #178
Chris L you are a fool I am sure that you know that terrorist would never fly jets into a skyscraper , why they would be destroyed , hell the president of Iran said on CNN that he would let half of his country’s opulation die as Martyrs if Israel ” Gods Chosen people Eargy Earp ” was destroyed . go find a DVD called Cult of the Suicide Bomber
http://imdb.com/title/tt0817498/
June 11th, 2007 at 12:23 amIt is very important for every country to have full command of nuclear technology. We should applaud Iran if they are trying hard and applying themselves hard to learn the in and outs of atomic energy. We all want a world free of nuclear weapons but that sounds a little idealistic at present. Let us hope they do not make a nuclear bomb but if they do and dare to use it in an irresponsible way they will have to pay very high for the mistake. Why don’t you better identify and make a list of countries that do not have ample understanding of nuclear energy to point at them and display them as irresponsible and lazy. In the future we will need clean and cheap electricity and modern transmission lines that can handle millions of volts with no loss of energy. Of course we do worry about Iran and sincerely we should be on our tiptoes to detect any aggressive behavior; but that does not mean we should stop them for acquiring expertise in science and technology. That’s unbelievable and entirely crazy. Any one that understands a little about the recent history of the region finds it unbelievable that they may be involved in Iraq killing Americans. If someone finds undeniable proof that they are involved in Iraq then probably the first move of America should be to leave that country (Iraq) in a hurry taking into account that this is an illegal invasion of a small foreign country in the first place even when this is done (supposedly) to promote world peace.
June 11th, 2007 at 12:26 amI got a question , if Iran did Nuke Israel doe anyone think the end times would start ? I me mean now that you guys are self righteous and religious ?
June 11th, 2007 at 12:27 amGerardo Javier Gálvez Arellano both Iran and Syria are sending arms and insurgents ( thats Terrorist for Non liberals ) into Iraq . Do you not remember right before Iran took the British Soldiers hostage until we ” U.S. ” released the Iranians we were holding , it was on ABC, CBS , CNN and Headline News , perhaps you missed it. You people talk like you care about the People of Iraq , listing numbers of dead civilians . when your leaders are successful in removing our troops you will witness a bloodbath not seen since your people were successful in stopping our involvement in the Vietnam War as would happen now the war did not stop then .
June 11th, 2007 at 12:48 amWhy don’t we give peace a chance?
June 11th, 2007 at 12:57 amU.S. has all the tools to promote peace… go ahead and laugh but Rev. Sharpton was right… America should be about aid and trade… not war.
All you need is love. (St. John Lennon.)
He was right.
December 15, 1988 yeah 4 years of Bush Sr. after 8 years of Reagan . then 8 yrs of Bill with 7 terrorist attacks then 8 yrs of Bush Jr. with 1 attack in year 1 of his Presidency and the Terrorist discover the Error of Their ways . Bush was not a Demwit . thats 20 yrs of republicans and 8 yrs. od Democrats , Yup Conservatives are really endangered . ask Michael Moore where Terrorist attack happen he will tell you Blue States
June 11th, 2007 at 1:04 amAll the Rapeublicans from Nixon, especially from TRAITOR Reagan on, are
ALL TREASONOUS coxucker PUNKS.
Reagan is BURNING IN HELL for his Iran/Contra LIES, and Bush 41 and 43 will join Ronnie soon….
To BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY.
Praise God and Jesus!!
June 11th, 2007 at 1:12 amThey aren’t going to attack Iran. Bush could attack Iraq after 9/11 because he had some support, but now his approval rating is in the ditch, he’s not going to do it, although it was probably part of the original plan.
People predicted a US attack on Iran over a year ago, and it didn’t happen.
People predicted impeachment soon after the election, and it didn’t happen.
Fear and Hope do not equal truth.
June 11th, 2007 at 1:27 amwhat is it with these little war mongering jews ??
they didn’t fight when they had the chance against Hitler
yet now they want the usa to spill its citizens’ blood for isreal ???
wtf is wrong with that picture ???
June 11th, 2007 at 1:40 amYup Conservatives are really endangered .
Comment by Harry Truman
Yup, business is SOOOO good at the RNC that they just had to put on more phone solicitors to handle all the business… and Bush’s asking price for a photo op w/ America’s CEOâ„¢ has gone up 80% this year alone!
June 11th, 2007 at 2:49 amSounds like there are a LOT of people commenting that we should leave Iran alone and talk with people who think we, America, are the Great Satan, and, that the 12th Iman can only matterialize with Jesus and kick Jewish and “infidel” butt if the ruler of Iran starts a nuclear exchange with the West, willing to “destroy most of Iran to accomplish such a feat” (not my words, but, the words of Iran’s president).
June 11th, 2007 at 3:29 amdarth vader just to please you liberals I prefer to wait till Iran with hundreds of thousands of young men wishing to become martyrs sends some over to blow up New York City , L.A. or Chicago with a nuclear device . then you guys would shut up . But Bush being more of a man than any of you will not do that , thank God
Comment by Huck Fillary — June 10, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
huck do you seriously believe that this apocolyptic vision of yours will come to pass??? – and are you saying that there are loose nukes floating around on the black market in the usa that these mercenaries of doom can aquire and detonate? – or will the martyrs bring them in to the country with their duty free cigarettes and aftershave?? – you might want to ease up on that bucklers beer that george w hallucinates on,buddy boy.
June 11th, 2007 at 4:11 amare unlikely to eventuate. Bush needs Abdul Aziz al-Hakim of the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council in order to avoid immediate and complete defeat in Iraq, and SIIC is very, very close to Iran. Lieberman doesn’t seem to understand, by the way, that Iraqi Shiites would mind the US bombing their coreligionists and would probably massacre the entire British garrison in Basra as well as interdict US fuel convoys to the north from Kuwait and Basra. His irresponsible warmongering would get a lot of US troops killed for no good reason. One only hopes he isn’t talking this way primarily for the purposes of Israeli PM Ehud Olmert’s rightwing government; he just met with Olmert and: “The two also discussed U.S. policy toward Iraq and the West’s capabilities for dealing with the Iranian threat.” If Lieberman and Olmert want to start another war, they should please do it themselves and leave American servicemen out of it.
June 11th, 2007 at 6:24 am” But Bush being more of a man than any of you will not do that , thank God
Comment by Huck Fillary — June 10, 2007 @ 10:24 pm”
yeah, ole dummya looked real manly with his pom-poms at yale.
June 11th, 2007 at 6:45 amThe only way out of all these shit is to place all these politicians in a ring with gloves on and let them beat the hell out of each other. We will pronounce the winner whoever is still standing!
June 11th, 2007 at 6:50 amLieberman just met with Olmert and: “The two also discussed U.S. policy toward Iraq and the West’s capabilities for dealing with the Iranian threat.”
proof, you can serve two masters…
June 11th, 2007 at 7:18 amThe great war has begun and I call it,”Global War One”.
The war was started by the neo-libracons.
This Global War One will last for 50 years.
The Bush family is controlled by the neo-libracons.
Sincerely,Raymont/Good Troll/Seedplanter/Rayganye
June 11th, 2007 at 7:54 amP.S. I known where Ancient Atlantis is located.
Lieberman is just another war monger. He doesn’t have to pick up a gun and stand a post, but he’s far too willing to sacrifice someone else’s life instead.
June 11th, 2007 at 8:06 am[Test #4]
June 11th, 2007 at 8:47 amI hope the CT residents who voted for Loserman are happy. They let this happen.
June 11th, 2007 at 9:44 am[Test #5]
June 11th, 2007 at 10:17 amLets not forget this document like the Government wants us too, here is the first passage from it the explains our rights to stand up and take control.
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
So when is America going to Stand up For America?
June 11th, 2007 at 10:33 amI have enough experience with autism, I don’t need the google. I just want to know what your comment is about. Lieberman?
Comment by Zooey
My point was that maybe a large section of our society has a mild form of Autism and that is why they act and think as they do. Perhaps Autism the disease is nothing more than a more accute version of what naturally occurs in a large % of society and is often looked at as just “conservatism” when in reality these people migrate into the “conservative” group because they simply do not think in terms of “put myself in others shoes” because that is how their brains are wired. And yes that includes Lieberman.
June 11th, 2007 at 10:41 amWow…Good job Connecticut for putting this screwball into office for another 6 years.
June 11th, 2007 at 10:48 amare trying to take over the world. this is f-ing nauseating, it is all bullshit… How does this country stop this band of self serving politcal elected terrorists… they are failing and taking advantage of this country and the world. isn’t peace possible without the promise of oil blood money to halliburton. Do we need a stronghold in the middle east and it’s resources to secure america’s future? Is this war for money, manifest destiny, the bushes/clinton power platform? why?
I want some answers…
June 11th, 2007 at 10:59 amWhy doesn’t Lieberman propose a less invasive strategy of, well, patrolling the borders???
What a freakish and insane idea to start yet another war. But then again Lieberman thinks the situation Iraq is improving!!!!
June 11th, 2007 at 11:19 amPlease, come save us from the evil-doers!
Joe, AIPAC, TP, please, keep the bombs and soldiers coming!!
Your service to our cause must never wane!!!
Long live the great state of Israel!!!!
June 11th, 2007 at 11:27 amSilly Americans, you actually believe you can control your government!?
WE decide, you obey!!
Get used to it already!!!
June 11th, 2007 at 11:30 amNew Key Ron
June 11th, 2007 at 11:33 amNew Key Ron!
June 11th, 2007 at 11:45 amI thought CT was suppose to have a high percentage of affluent residence. Clearly affluence and intelligence don’t necessarily go together. Better check that educational system again in CT people!
June 11th, 2007 at 11:45 amIran is a dangerous country. They will find a way to use a nuke if they get one, make no mistake about it. If not against Israel, then against the United States. It would be nice to just let things go and mind our own business, but Muslim extremists have been kidnapping, hijacking, and killing westerners my entire life (longer). Let them show some acceptance, some diversity, some humanity. Until that day, Joe is right. We must act.
June 11th, 2007 at 11:46 amYes, Iran is dangerous to Israel’s existence, and it has oil!
Go get ‘em America!!!
June 11th, 2007 at 11:49 amComment by Dan — June 11, 2007 @ 11:46 am
By your reasoning, why hasn’t Pakistan used nukes. They are also Muslim extremists, who are currently harboring Al-Qaeda, according to the CIA. But they are our “allies”. Should we also attack Pakistan?
June 11th, 2007 at 12:11 pmEfforts by the militarily dominant to win the contest either through force or the threat of force rather than meeting at the negotiating table in a sincere effort to achieve a negotiated compromise that would leave each side at least minimally satisfied sets up a dangerous cycle (For details, see http://shadowedforest.blogspot.com/2007/05/violence-in-complex-world-worth-effort.html. The weaker side learns that the strong “understand only force,” are unwilling to compromise, and have no interest in understanding the grievances of the weak. Rather than the cowboy foreign policy of trying to identify enemies to destroy, focus on the socio-political context out of which they emerge, to ask how that context affects their behavior, and to alter that context to induce changes in the behavior of groups that are struggling to find roles for themselves in a highly confusing transitional situation.
June 11th, 2007 at 2:11 pmThis article says it all: http://www.salem-news.com/articles/june112007/lieberman_oped_61007.php
June 11th, 2007 at 2:40 pmNo Joe. We shouldn’t be thinking about military action with Iran. You thought about military action Iraq, see what it got you?
Us your head, not GW’s. We need to talk and work with Iran and Syria. They are real factors in the middle east. Ignoring them will not make them go away. Get to work on it.
If you want military action so bad with Iran, last I heard, the Army was still hiring. You go get them Joe. But don’t you dare try sending more of our men to Iran when you have screwed up so bad in Iraq!
June 11th, 2007 at 3:17 pmRe: Comment #186 by Merlin — June 10, 2007 @ 5:36 pm…
Although most visitors to the ThinkProgress website, with a few obvious, well-known exceptions, probably see through Lie-berman’s obfuscations, however, the matter of Holy Joe having been Al Gore’s running mate and a pseudo-democrat is trumpeted by the Neo-Con set as indicative of bipartisan support for proposed actions, such as striking Iran. For an illustrative example, please refer to: http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Bill_Kristol_Lieberman_makes_attack_on_0611.html
June 11th, 2007 at 3:43 pmLeiberman represents the mindset that assumes the U.S. will be victorious in an attack on Iran–or any nation–simply because we are Americans and Americans don’t lose military conflicts. Vietnam, Somalia and Iraq don’t count. How many feet underground does Fallon think Iran’s nuclear program is? A major strike would realize the most important objective, however–to kill and maim thousands of Iranians. The nuclear option is still on the table and is probably being seriously pushed by Cheney. Oh, fun!
June 11th, 2007 at 5:38 pmMs. Rice is for appeasement like England’s Chamberlain was toward Hitler. So what if Israel has the bomb! A single Iranian nuke on Tel Aviv would destroy that country. Retaliation from the Israelis would not bring back their country. mutual assured destruction (M.A.D.) Worked between the Soviet Union and the United States during the Cold War because these two nations think rationally. Iran wants to martyr itself.
June 11th, 2007 at 6:02 pmElmer Fudd Lieberman is a piece of shit Republican / neocon , a traitor . The spineless Dems should kick this weasel out of the party . I wonder to which country does Lieberman’s allegiance belong ? Another instance of the the tail wagging the dog . Time to face it folks , as far as returning this country to it’s rightful owners ” we the people ” and to the same USA past generations loved and were proud of , it’s over , we are F’d . The very fact that Bush and Cheney and Gonzo are still in office ( courtesy of the Republicans ) and then we have a divided , corrupted and watered down Democratic party that is just a joke anymore , add an apathetic , lazy and ignorant people … good night and good luck .
June 11th, 2007 at 6:32 pmWill it take another terrorist attack on this country for you people to get it? Every friday after afternoon prayers the Irainians chant death to America. What do you think that means? They do not consider women and children to be innocents. They will target wherever there will be the most casualties. I hope that none of you or your children become victims of the next attack on us because there will be one. They are not going to just give up and go home. These people are nothing but animals who have been twisted by a religion that advocates killing anyone without the same beliefs as them. It’s them or us.
June 11th, 2007 at 6:39 pm“These people are nothing but animals who have been twisted by a religion that advocates killing anyone without the same beliefs as them. It’s them or us.” -Comment by Emperor6142- But the majority of them are enemies of Iran. THE ATTACK ON IRAN JUST STRENGTHENS THE SUNNI COUNTRIES AND THE GLOBAL SUNNI EXTREMISTS ATTACK ON SHIAS AND THEIR AMERICAN, ORTHODOX CATHOLIC AND ISRAELI ALLIES WORLDWIDE. ” Dushmani dushman” in the Iranian language means the enemy’s enemy, i. e. an ally….
June 11th, 2007 at 9:07 pmIran is the main natural foe of all Sunni terrorists both within the USA and abroad.
Sunni insurgents from Kossovo, former Yugoslavia, and from many other countries conducted thorough surveillance on the US military assets and on churches, hospitals, Twin Towers etc. throughout the USA when they were here, say, in 1999, even before the September 11, 2001. The group of them was seized in May, 2007 just before an attack in NJ. If Iran is destroyed, nothing can prevent Sunni terrorists to blow up the whole of the USA, Europe, Israel etc. Mr Joe Lieberman is the best agent of Ossama bin Laden in the USA thus.
I missed Face the Nation – I haven’t trusted Lieberman for a long time – We lived in Tehran in 1976 to the end of 1977 – the day after we arrived with our 2 little kids I looked out the window and saw a line of men in pajamas digging a ditch – I was informed they were Iraqi prisoners and this 150 was assigned to our street – we sided with Iran against Iraq then – Irrational thinking is taking over our country – - the people of these countries are just like you and me – all they want is to live their lives – instead sociopath leaders are allowed to rule the world.
Carolynne Harris
June 12th, 2007 at 12:39 amJoe thinks Iranians are killing Americans?
The residents of Iraq are killing Americans.
Just ask any American Soldier.
Joe now works for the party in the White
House. More War means more “profit” for
the people who put them, there. And there’s
the “oil”, too.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:54 am#285
June 12th, 2007 at 2:30 pmCan you tell me why you, and others like you, are always trying to divide the world into two categories, allies and enemies?