Snow: Bush Will Not Listen To No Confidence Vote, ‘Not A Bit’
Snow: Bush Will Not Listen To No Confidence Vote, ‘Not A Bit’
Tomorrow, the Senate will introduce a no confidence resolution on the management and credibility of embattled Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. Rarely used throughout American history, the resolution, if passed, would be a “historical black mark” on Gonzales and the Bush administration.
On Fox News Sunday today, White House spokesperson Tony Snow said that if the no confidence vote is passed — even with bipartisan support — it will have “no effect” on President Bush’s confidence in Gonzales. Snow claimed “nobody [has] found anything untoward in terms of what happened” in the attorney scandal. He added, “there’s an attempt to pull this [resolution] like a piece of taffy, seeing if there’s any political advantage in it.” Watch it:
The only people twisting the resolution “like a piece of taffy” are those conservatives trying to provide political cover for Gonzales’ incompetent management at the Justice Department.
Roll Call reported last week that Senate conservatives are trying to “thwart” the resolution using parliamentary procedures:
Republicans are likely to tie up the Senate floor with all kinds of procedural mischief and introduce any number of amendments, including perhaps one on whether the Iraq War is actually “lost” as Reid has suggested.
One example: Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK), who has previously called for Gonzales to resign but refuses to support the no confidence vote, will introduce an unrelated pet amendment, “expressing ‘no confidence’ in Congress’ ability to cut wasteful spending or balance the budget.”
Transcript:
WALLACE: By the way, real quickly, on the vote of no confidence on Gonzales, if you get a number of Republicans joining in a vote of no confidence, will that shake the President’s determination to keep Gonzales on the job? >>
SNOW: Not a bit. Purely symbolic vote.
WALLACE: And no effect on the President.
SNOW: No. what you’ve got here is a senate that’s had a great deal of difficulty delivering on any of its promises. Furthermore, it is perfectly obvious that the President has the right to hire and fire people who serve at his pleasure. Nobody found anything untoward in terms of what happened. Therefore, as a consequence, there’s an attempt to pull this thing like a piece of taffy, seeing if there’s any political advantage in it. There’s not. So what we’ll end up having is people burning off a day expressing their opinions and then we’ll have an opportunity to move on.
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Nothing has any effect on someone who is insane. Bush is insane.
Q.E.D. This Congressional censure with a "no-confidence" vote will have no effect on Bush.
Tony Snow is probably right, but so what?
Keep on pushin'... Eventually this illegitimate complicit regime will collapse.
June 10th, 2007 at 4:42 pmWorthless piece of legislation from a worthless Congress, that has shrugged off their constitutional duty to check the Executive branch.
June 10th, 2007 at 4:42 pmThis shows the complete and utter lack of character or integrity, let alone commitment to the good of this country and what it is founded on, by Bush or Gonzales in ignoring this vote of "No Confidence". By both of these men ignoring Congress and the rest of this country who are trying to protect our system of government and justice so that people in this country won't lose faith shows just how low these men are. They do not stand for America. They are not fulfilling their sworn duties to uphold and protect our constitution and our democracy. They are protecting themselves and all the shady dealings they are pulling that go against what this country wants. They are criminals with too much power. They need to be impeached, charged, and tried as criminals (along with Cheney).
June 10th, 2007 at 4:44 pmCaption:
Snow just moments before putting his fingers in his ears and singing "la la la la la la la la la... I can't hear you."
June 10th, 2007 at 4:44 pmOf course the King won't listen. He'll continue to support Gonzo. That's fine with me. Dig your heels in Chimpy.
I want us to get impeachment proceedings underway -- which the King will also ignore, but the people will not.
June 10th, 2007 at 4:45 pmSnow: Bush Will Not Listen To No Confidence Vote, ‘Not A Bit’
TIME TO IMPEACH THIS TIAJUANA POLICE CHEIF!!! HE'S CORRUPT TO THE CORE!!!!!
June 10th, 2007 at 4:48 pmInteresting -- Satyam put up this post at 2:00 ET, but it didn't show up for over 2 hours.
June 10th, 2007 at 4:48 pmThe more public opinion goes against them, the more CONGRESSIONAL opinion goes against them, the more history goes against them, the more these idiots believe they are RIGHT. As if the disagreement vindicates them.
God, preserve us and this broken country and help us find a way to mend after this nightmare of an administration...
June 10th, 2007 at 4:52 pmI want us to get impeachment proceedings underway — which the King will also ignore, but the people will not.
Comment by Zooey
May have to pressure the Democrats in House to make somone else Speaker first.....
Pelosi still has her head stuck up her a$$
“I have said it before and I will say it again: Impeachment is off the table,†Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.
June 10th, 2007 at 4:53 pmGonzales’ incompetent management at the Justice Department.
i gotta argue that point with ya, TP...
i can't help thinking that it's ALL a very deliberate and
June 10th, 2007 at 4:53 pmpurposeful management, and not just of the justice dept...
the whole bushco plan is unconstitutional, even criminal...
but i doubt it's incompetent...
...
it's completely in keeping with the strategy the bushies announced just prior to the november elections - they will fight everything to the bitter end, no compromise, no surrender... they are only doing exactly what they said they would do... if they show any sign of weakness now, the unity among the congressional r's will totally and completely collapse and the white house knows it... so, there is only one way out and that's to force the constitutional crisis we've been assiduously avoiding since the 12 december 2000 scotus decision that installed this coup d'etat as our so-called legitimate government...
And, yes, I DO take it personally
June 10th, 2007 at 4:54 pmHeyooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Classic. BushCrimeCo at its best, classic.
June 10th, 2007 at 4:58 pmOh and I *don't* use "BushCrimeCo" as a pejorative,
just so you guys know...
June 10th, 2007 at 5:00 pmwayne -
have been waiting to run into you...
have you seen this?
http://austinimpeach.org/
also, when did nancy say "again" ?
June 10th, 2007 at 5:03 pmInteresting — Satyam put up this post at 2:00 ET, but it didn’t show up for over 2 hours.
Comment by Zooey — June 10, 2007 @ 4:48 pm
The formatting buttons still don't work, and the only way to see updated comments is to either delete the temporary internet files on my hard drive, or comment... But at least we can say 'shit' :D
June 10th, 2007 at 5:10 pmIT WAS KISSINGER WHO FIRST STATED THAT THE MILTARY WAR IN IRAQ WAS LOST! But the AMerican media seem to be ignoring that fact.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:11 pmHow about Bush and Cheney leaving with Gonzales after the "No Confidence" vote?
June 10th, 2007 at 5:12 pmMr. President, are you 15 years old?
June 10th, 2007 at 5:15 pmhave you seen this?
http://austinimpeach.org/
Awsome!! Now I have =)
have to see if I am off july 7th
also, when did nancy say “again†?
Comment by katy
That was a Nov 2006 quote. She has not stated she has changed her mind yet and has stymied any attempts to bring it forward.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:15 pmNote that the cheney impeachment has 6 co-signers and is stopped cold.
So, if it is, as the Republicans say, a meaningless piece of legislation, why are they preparing to tie it up with endless parliamentary moves?
June 10th, 2007 at 5:18 pmvery sad indeed, this is how corrupt the Republican Party is, rotten to the core. .. they continue to support the criminal activities of their own people, time and time again. impeach every last one of them!
June 10th, 2007 at 5:19 pmMr. President, are you 15 years old?
Comment by unbelievable — June 10, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
What are you doing?
Feed me, Seymour.
Feed Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 10th, 2007 at 5:19 pmComment by katy
I know exactly where Joe's is. I stop there now and then for my mocha fix =)
June 10th, 2007 at 5:23 pmExcept I work Tuesdays till 8:30...
wayne - one of the founders of austinimpeach was a guest
on rachel maddow recently, talking about this new
website, and the austin action...
i've checked for it most days, but there was always an "under construction" message at that web address...
looks to be up and running now - go for it!
June 10th, 2007 at 5:23 pm...
"Mr. President, are you 15 years old?
Comment by unbelievable — June 10, 2007"
you're in the ballpark.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:23 pmIt's all just one big giant effing joke and stoopid game to these republican turkeys isn't it. Who gives a damn if you actually think Gonzo should be gone and isn't worthy of the job he holds, but ohhhh noo heaven forbid we actually hold the man accountable by voting no confidence and suffer from the wrath of Rove. Gawd...how effin pathetic...These tools don't need Bush to make a mockery out of Congress or make themselves irrelevant with signing statements. No obviously they are quite capable of doing it just fine on their own. What a waste of a branch of gov't, just another bunch of useful idiots of kkKarl's and apparently damn proud of it. Fascism is alive and kickin in the halls of Congress. Here's to another Bush flunkey...who continues to fulfill Bush's soft bigotry of low expectations legacy...heckuva job.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:26 pmOff subject for just one post: I purchased a 6pack of Buckler non-alcoholic beer, yesterday, like what Pres. Bush supposedly drank in Germany. I have a set of beer glasses exactly like the one Bush drank out of too. So today I poured the beer sloppy into the glass like Bush did in one pic and it produced a thick foam top. The beer is a very pale yellow-amber color and has a very good taste for a 0.5% alcohol beer.
If you compare the glass of beer I have to the one Bush is drinking in the press pics of him, in Germany, they are NOT the same. The beer Bush is drinking has a amber-brown coloring and dirty foam head. Buckler has a snow white foam head and the color is more yellow than brown.
Most average regular beers in Germany have the amber-brown coloring, so my belief is that the Buckler beer bottle was put on Bush's table as a prop and he was drinking regular alcoholic beer. Therefore that is why he acted tipsy in the pics and had a hangover the next day.
I wish the American corporate press would do their job, so bloggers like me would not have to do the investigations of Bush's actions.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:27 pmComment by Jay Randal — June 10, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
The US has different standards which beer need to meet, so even if it is the same brand, imported beer is often different. I don't know if this applies to to non-alc. but I would assume so, because it is still brewed.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:31 pmyou’re in the ballpark.
Comment by pgw — June 10, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
FEED ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
June 10th, 2007 at 5:32 pmI think this proves the truism that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The current administration has not had to answer for any of its actions for what, six years? Now when it has to it finds itself unable to.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:34 pmah, my favorite phrase: 'at the pleasure of the president.'
i wonder how much "pleasure" he's getting out Gonzalez these days.
whatever happened to phrases like 'service of one's country,' 'public service,' 'public servant', or noble ideas like 'upholding the constitution' and 'good of the country.'
(hint: the 'public' became 'consumers,' 'good' gave way to 'greed' and the 'constitution' got outsourced in the interests of the 'company' that now runs our government.)
June 10th, 2007 at 5:34 pmTOTURER GONSALES - would you support this man ?
June 10th, 2007 at 5:38 pmMaybe if he(Bush) takes the time to pull his head out of his ass he may learn something.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:38 pmOf course he won't listen. Bush is going to drag the entire GOP down with him.
So long, GOP. You won't know what hit you in 2008.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:38 pmNope Mr. President the exact same standards apply in Europe, for NON-alcoholic beer, the same as in the US. Regular beer in Germany is allowed to have a much higher alcohol content than in the US.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:40 pmlooks to be up and running now - go for it!
Comment by katy
Actually I am off this tuesday, forgot I scheduled days off this next week (months ago). heh
June 10th, 2007 at 5:41 pmWorking on sunday must be affecting my brain
Gonna check out the meeting this week, thanks for the info =)
Nope Mr. President the exact same standards apply in Europe, for NON-alcoholic beer, the same as in the US. Regular beer in Germany is allowed to have a much higher alcohol content than in the US.
Comment by Jay Randal — June 10, 2007 @ 5:40 pm
Huh, maybe he slipped in some opium that he picked up in the Netherlands.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:43 pmAh Yes Gonzales =
The proposed anti-Geneva Convention declaration, "will reverse over a century of U.S. policy and practice" and have "a high cost in terms of negative international reaction."
Thats what Gonzales stands for
June 10th, 2007 at 5:44 pm"Bush Will Not Listen To No Confidence Vote, ‘Not A Bit’"
So, what else is new?
June 10th, 2007 at 5:45 pmThat son of a bitch hasn't listened to anything except the cravings for more drugs, more power, more deceit, more money wasted, more lies, ...
Mr. President I used to be an avid drinker of foreign brand beers. When I visited Europe I went to the breweries and the beer gardens. I went to Amsterdam, Holland, where Buckler is brewed and bottled. In Munich, Germany I went on the factory tour of Lowenbrau beer. I drank Austrian beer, Swiss beer, French beer, Belgium beer, etc.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:49 pmComment by Jay Randal — June 10, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
I'm not questioning your statement, Jay.
In post #37 I was merely suggesting that another alternative could be that Bush slipped a chunk of opium in his glass, which would cause the liquid contained therein to turn that deep amber-brown hue.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:54 pmMeanwhile,
The SAUDI ARABIANS are financing the Al Queda SUNNIS.
Our “friends�
No.
But DEFINITELY BUSH’S FRIENDS.
And yesterday it was revealed that the Saudi Prince, Bandar bin Sultan, profited $2 BILLION from the sale of warplanes during the Reagan era.
His nickname was given to him by the Bush family:
Bandar Bush
Bush & his family are International CRIMINALS & TRAITORS to the USA
June 10th, 2007 at 5:55 pmMr. President, sir:
You can't pick up "opium" in the Netherlands.
...and now I'm gonna have a liter of Euro-Beer at 8%. Vive la Chouffe.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:56 pmEveryone in Congress, the House and the Senate, with an (R) after their names has proven to be unworthy of the position they hold. What a bunch of rubbernecked accomplices to the worst thing to ever happen to this great nation...the Bush Crime Family and the thugs within.
Vote all Rethuglicans out of office in '08 and in every election from now on...they cannot govern a government they do not respect. They cannot represent people they do not respect. They worship money and corporate profits, that is all.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:00 pmSnowJOB, you're a contemptible prick.
I don't believe in divine retribution, but, ............
and chimpy, you're a worthless POS like shooter and seedy g. and all the rest of the human flotsam and jetsam you brung to Washington with you to stain the reputation of history forever.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:00 pmGONZALES OH YES
CIA 'disappeared' seven-year-old children
Children as young as seven years old were 'forcibly disappeared' by the CIA, according to report published today jointly by six human rights groups naming 39 people who are believed to have been held in secret US custody and whose current whereabouts remain unknown.
http://pressesc.com/01181202133_39_names_enforced_disappearences
June 10th, 2007 at 6:01 pmYou can’t pick up “opium†in the Netherlands.
Comment by El Tonno — June 10, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
R U stupid?
June 10th, 2007 at 6:02 pmI am 15 years old. I am a 15 year-old on an adultee poster board. I feel so grown up.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:03 pmLOL Mr. President > Bush could have had carmel coloring put into the beer. He had the Buckler beer bottle put onto his table as a prop and the press fell for it. His demeanor denoted someone drinking alcoholic beer or other booze. Drinking the heavy alcohol content beer, in Germany, can make you sick to your stomach the next morning, just as Bush claimed he felt sick. When I went to the Hofbrau house in Munich, Germany, I drank too much and the next morning I did not feel well. The beer ferments in your belly from all the German yeast in it.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:03 pm"opium"
June 10th, 2007 at 6:03 pm"Mexican drug cartels"
June 10th, 2007 at 6:04 pm"human waste left at the border for the INS to clean up"
June 10th, 2007 at 6:05 pmIn Amsterdam, Holland, the main drug the young people used was pot, but hashish was widely avaliable. I never saw any opium used on the streets, but it could be there. I did see some people shooting up herion.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:07 pmTaco bell should open a franchise right at the border (with the most traffic) and its workers can be undercover INS/Border Patrol agents. They can accept pesos and round em' up, bring that $20 billion back into the U.S. every year.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:09 pmDo they call it "Ganja" in Mexico?
June 10th, 2007 at 6:11 pmSome GONZALES Headlines -
Gonzales Defends US Policy on Torture
Gonzales: Nsa Program Doesn't Need a Law
Gonzales Withholding Plame Emails
Gonzales Defends Wiretaps Amid Protest
Gonzales Defends Transfer of Detainees
Gonzales OK Could Be Seen as OK for Torture Rules
Gonzales: Torture Treaty Doesn't Bar 'Cruel, Inhuman' Tactics
Gonzales: CIA Exempt From Torture Ban
Torture by US Personnel Illegal, Gonzales Tells Senate
We Do Not Torture, Insists Gonzales
Alberto Gonzales' Role in Torture Memos
June 10th, 2007 at 6:11 pmComment by Jay Randal — June 10, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
Oh, its there alright.
It's HERE!!!
June 10th, 2007 at 6:13 pmIn Amsterdam, Holland,
I FIND IT AMAZING THE AMERICANS SITTING IN RESTUARANTS THERE AND SMOKING VAPOURISERS QUITE OPENLY AND I LOVE TO JOIN IN ......
Amsterdam is the way the world should be ......... Freedom
June 10th, 2007 at 6:13 pmCT, try to stay within shooting distance of the topic. TP is goofed up enough, don't you think?
June 10th, 2007 at 6:14 pmI like Tony Snow because he's good with happy talk, even when things are clearly bad.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:17 pmAnd im there on the 19th this month YEEE HAAAA
last year I went for a week with my 3 daughters of 10,6,3
http://www.msccruises.co.uk/crociere/cruise.asp?id=3276&page_id=1487
This is this years Holiday - - seeing as I dont like flying much anymore -- And Morroco and Turkey has been ruined by Bushes war
BUT one things for sure America is off the menu
June 10th, 2007 at 6:18 pmNotice ever summer Bush hints at war -
He tries to get us holidaying in the US - STUFF THAT
June 10th, 2007 at 6:19 pmComment by Zooey
I'm only trying to fit in with TP, Zooey. I can't be an outcast on this website forever.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:19 pmComment by Jay Randal
I don't even know where to start; your comments about beer are so utterly and totally wrong that I am speechless.
Well, not speechless. Not on the subject of beer.
Wrong. Most "average" beers served in Germany are pils and are nothing at all like "amber" or "brown". Gold, yes, but not very dark except when compared to, say, Coors. I'm not going to argue with you about the photo of Bush, because it's clearly a matter of perception.
"Regular" beer in Germany is not much different in alcohol content than US beer, between 4-6% abv. There are stronger beers, of course, like bocks and doppelbocks, but those exist in the US as well.
If you drink too much, it's quite possible not to feel well the next day; it's happened to the best of us. There is no "German yeast" in the beer, because it has been lagered and filtered. The only time this would be a possibility was if you were drinking unfiltered pils (not in the Hofbrau Haus) or if you were drinking hefeweizen. Yeast is a great source of Vitamin B, but it can make you a bit gassy.
I know you're hot to convict Bush as a sneaking lush, but you're barking up the wrong tree in your beer "research."
June 10th, 2007 at 6:22 pmComment by Mr. President
I've heard that Amsterdam is an overrated place for drug freedom.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:23 pmComment by gummitch — June 10, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
=
a dick
Jay wasn't talking about "regular" verses "strong" beer. He was talking about alc. beer versus non-alc. "beer."
June 10th, 2007 at 6:25 pmI’ve heard that Amsterdam is an overrated place for drug freedom.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 10, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
I'm clean now CT, I would recommend not going there if I were you.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:26 pmBush who? Gonzales Who? You're not speaking about the Lameduck President whose thoughts and words mean zilch and an AG who only functions as the president's personal sidekick and certainly not like any AG ever in the history of this country are you?? Just wondering....if we're discussing the effect of a "no confidence" vote on someone whom the entire country has already dismissed as having one iota of credibility, then that's old news. As well, solicitation of the thoughts or feelings of a president who has one foot out the door and the other on a banana peel, is just as insignificant and meaningless....who cares what Bush thinks at this point? No one with any sense, that's for sure.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:29 pmJay wasn’t talking about “regular†verses “strong†beer. He was talking about alc. beer versus non-alc. “beer.â€
Comment by Mr. President
You need to learn how to read.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:30 pmAll the american people care about is Bush's clocking ticking down the end of his horrendous presidency, that's all!
June 10th, 2007 at 6:30 pmGONZALES
Sami Al-Hajj, prisoner 345 at the United States Detainment Centre in Guantanamo Bay Cuba, has been on hunger strike since 7th January, 2007.
Sami was arrested in Pakistan in December 2001 whilst travelling with a legitimate visa to work in Afghanistan as a cameraman for Al Jazeera. But he is being held as an ‘enemy combatant’.
prisoner345.net is dedicated to empowering Sami’s family, friends and colleagues, together with all supporters of human rights around the world, in the campaign to set him free.
http://www.prisoner345.net/
June 10th, 2007 at 6:31 pmSince Gonzalez now has a dirty reputation, could he even find lucrative work upon leaving the Justice Department? Is he independently wealthy to any extent?
June 10th, 2007 at 6:32 pmChimpy IS a sneaky lush.
He fell off the wagon long ago.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:33 pmgummitch LOL > stop defending Bush because it makes you look stupid. There are pils beer in Germany, but more of those in Hungary and Austria. Bavaria has the amber to nutty-brown bocks. Beer in Germany has a much higher alcohol content than in the US. Have you ever been to the Lowenbrau brewery in Germany? If NOT then shut your silly yapper.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:35 pmJay wasn’t talking about “regular†verses “strong†beer. He was talking about alc. beer versus non-alc. “beer.â€
Comment by Mr. President
You need to learn how to read.
Comment by gummitch — June 10, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
Looky he-ah, gummy,
Your nitpicking over "gold" and "amber-brown," makes you a dick.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:35 pmComment by Mr. President
Oh, trust me, I won't be headed there. But would you happen to know the country with the best brewed beer, ever? That would be good to know, even if it's expensive.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:36 pmComment by Mr. President
Oh, trust me, I won’t be headed there. But would you happen to know the country with the best brewed beer, ever? That would be good to know, even if it’s expensive.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 10, 2007 @ 6:36 pm
Of Course!!!
You're already here!!!
The best beer is Miller High Life!!!
The Champagne of Beers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 10th, 2007 at 6:39 pmGonzalez knows where the bodies are buried. Chimpy is too skeered to fire him.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:39 pmMr. Bushie drank some non-alcoholic beer and it made em' feel icky since it's not the everyday American beer he's used to. He's feelin' better now.
Want to talk of the coloring-content in the gummy bears he eats?
June 10th, 2007 at 6:40 pmAdmin: I see that you issued a “TP migrated servers and we’re still experiencing a few technical issues, including delays in comments showing up. We hope to have everything fixed shortly. Thanks for your patience. 5:39 pm†Yah. Bullshiit. So the comments that I posted three days ago, they’re going to be posted when? How about before the server migration started? When will those comments be posted? Stop censoring TP!
June 10th, 2007 at 6:41 pmgummitch LOL > stop defending Bush because it makes you look stupid. There are pils beer in Germany, but more of those in Hungary and Austria. Bavaria has the amber to nutty-brown bocks. Beer in Germany has a much higher alcohol content than in the US. Have you ever been to the Lowenbrau brewery in Germany? If NOT then shut your silly yapper.
Comment by Jay Randal
If you want to take this offline, I'd be happy to give you my q.v. on the subject of beer. I've been brewing for more than 20 years, and have made my living selling equipment and brewing supplies for homebrewers and commercial breweries alike.
You know far less than you seem to think about beer and brewing and everyone of your comments reveals this.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:42 pmYeast is used in the brewing of beer, and most of it is removed strained out before bottling, but its residue remains in the beer, more so in the dark brews.
My first post about this on this thread refers to NON-alcoholic Buckler beer versus regular beer. I compared my glass of Buckler beer to the pics of Bush drinking one. They do NOT look the same, but somebody can claim otherwise.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:43 pmYour nitpicking over “gold†and “amber-brown,†makes you a dick.
Comment by Mr. President
The day I worry about your opinion will be the day you grow a brain, troll.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:43 pmwas up this site is cool checkout mine themindful.blogspot.com
June 10th, 2007 at 6:44 pmThis is a site were I challegne the mind with truthful questions
"The best beer is Miller High Life!!!"
-Comment by the greatest Mr. President of all time
Whoa! I love America! Alright! Next, we should strive to go from the 3rd to 2nd lowest-taxed nation on the planet.
To 7-11 I am headed for a cold brewski - well, later.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:45 pmComment by gummitch — June 10, 2007 @ 6:43 pm
=
low self-esteem
June 10th, 2007 at 6:45 pmComment by gummitch
Mr. President, these Libetrolls are irking my right nerve.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:47 pmgummitch > have you or have you NOT been to Lowenbrau brewery in Munich, Germany? If NOT then you are the goofy nutty fool in here. End of story. I do not brew my own beer, but I have gone on the factury tours. I do not drink Coors or other crappy beer like that.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:47 pmHEYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 10th, 2007 at 6:50 pmComment by Celestine — June 10, 2007 @ 6:44 pm
If one of your fav books is Plato's "Politeia," why do you even bring up Machiavelli?
June 10th, 2007 at 6:50 pmComment by Celestine
Is your site somehow better than MichelleMalkin.com?
June 10th, 2007 at 6:52 pmWho gives a flying f*ck about the god-damned beer?
Jesus christ.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:52 pmZooey > gummitch came out of no-where in here to pick a fight about beer. Mr. President and me were discussing Bush drinking Buckler beer.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:57 pmI’m only trying to fit in with TP, Zooey. I can’t be an outcast on this website forever.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
How are comments #50, #51 & #52 to be interpreted as "fitting in?"
June 10th, 2007 at 6:59 pmTony Snow is a jolly snowman, drops his happy load even in times of hell.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:59 pmZooey > gummitch came out of no-where in here to pick a fight about beer. Mr. President and me were discussing Bush drinking Buckler beer.
Comment by Jay Randal
He's allowed an opinion as much as anyone else, Jay.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:01 pm"Gonzales’ incompetent management at the Justice Department.
i gotta argue that point with ya, TP…
i can’t help thinking that it’s ALL a very deliberate and
purposeful management, and not just of the justice dept…
the whole bushco plan is unconstitutional, even criminal…
but i doubt it’s incompetent…
…
Comment by katy"
thank you, Katy. Exactly what I was thinking. Please put to bed the thinking that these people are stupid or incompetent. They know exactly what they are doing and nobody is stopping them. Only impeachment will put a wrench in their plans. Now, not later.
How many paid Rovebot posts can you count today? I am so sick of this schtick. It's really stupid, really boring, and not at all effective. Go away.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:01 pmComment by Zooey
They don't fit in. Forgive me? Please, cast your forgiveness on a child who doesn't know better.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:01 pm*sobbing uncontrollably*
June 10th, 2007 at 7:04 pmWell, we will see just who gets twisted like a piece of soft taffy after the vote. Lets hope TP will posts the entire rosters' vote in a plain and simple format so ALL will take note of their share of this problem. If your rep stiffs you with his/hers vote, you better be heard.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:04 pmIf this complacent AG walks you and I will own it. FOREVER.
http://www.whitehouse.org is a very funny site.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:07 pm> The best beer is Miller High Life!!!
> The Champagne of Beers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Comment by Mr. President —
I laf at your utter cluelessness.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:09 pmComment by theswan
The only real way to get Gonzalez out would be through impeachment. Rumsfeld was ousted only after years of negative news articles, generals complaining, and a 2006 midterm-loss. The President likes his good friend, doesn't want to see him unemployed.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:10 pmComment by El Tonno
No, he's correct. There's nothing wrong with selecting something made in America.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:12 pmGonzo speaks tomorrow at the Miami International Nuclear Terrorism Law Enforcement Conference, the purpose of which "is to enhance cooperation between nations participating in the Global Initiative to Combat Nuclear Terrorism." (GICNUT?)
To feel not so powerless, I suggest messaging local and international media and the Federal Business Council via their websites, to remind them that Gonzales doesn't legitimately speak for the American people.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:13 pmZooey > having a discussion and picking a fight are two different things. Me and Mr. President were bantering about whether Bush drank real Buckler non-alcoholic beer or not. We were not trying to discuss how beer is made, nor if it's light pils, lager, or bock. I wish gummitch well in his beer equipment trade. Home brewing is being done alot in the US now. I am more into wine now and hope to bottle some of my own this summer.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:14 pmAmerica is applesolutely #1
June 10th, 2007 at 7:16 pm*sobbing uncontrollably*
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Oh shut up, brat. :-D
June 10th, 2007 at 7:19 pm#106 - Thanks Jay, I'll keep that in mind.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:20 pmApplesolutely America.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:21 pmThe president cannot let Gonzalez go, because Gonzalez is key to preventing the judiciary from prosecuting the president's corrept colleagues. Gonzalez will never resign, he must be impeached and removed. Unfortunately some of those who would be called upon to impeach him would be those who might be investigated for corruption when Gonzalez leaves.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:21 pmA vote of no confidence won't have any impact on Bush, but the rest of the world will at least see that the people's representatives repudiate the actions of their Attorney General. That means something.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:23 pmNot much, but better than nothing.
Could be a first step toward aligning for impeachment of AG, VP and chymp.
Mr. President, I suppose, has. Heck, he's gotta come back. I'm not creative enough to do his dirty work.
(FREE PARIS! Alberto Gonzalez should do the first right think in his legal career and grant Paris a reprieve!)
June 10th, 2007 at 7:26 pmEverybody who posts on TP are good, wholesome intelligent adults with a grand lists of accomplishment. All of you should be proud of yourselves.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:37 pmHis daily confessions must give him a great deal of confidance, because he looks more at ease in his libelist nooze conferences. Will his place in Hell be right behind Shrub or Cowardly Cheney?
June 10th, 2007 at 7:42 pmDid anyone actually expect a "no confidence vote" by a "little-do Congress" to have ANY impact on a "no confidence president"?? It's a "no briainer" to me.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:50 pmAhem.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:50 pmIf what the people and congress express WOULD have any impact on this lameduck president, then I'd really be thinking that he had a true "epiphany" which is highly unlikely in his lifetime.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:51 pm"The 110th back-down Congress."
June 10th, 2007 at 7:52 pmIt's a group of know nothings doing more of nothing to express that they have no confidence in one of the highest offices in this country. That said, what the hell does it mean? Where are it's teeth?
June 10th, 2007 at 7:52 pm#111 Bush's Gonzo "mantra" is this: What webs we weave when our intention is to deceive"....just imagine how many legal scrapes and hideous things Gonzo knows about Bush and has gotten his sorry butt out of over the years? (shuddering as I type because the devil whom we know is bad enough....but the younger devil whom we don't know HAD to have been much more heinous)....
June 10th, 2007 at 7:54 pmIt's certain that if there really is a "hell", Bush and Gonzo will be down there for a very long time.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:55 pmBush will hear the No Confidence Vote and utter his infamous words immediately following it: "Now watch this drive!"
June 10th, 2007 at 7:55 pmHEYOOO!
June 10th, 2007 at 8:09 pmMy husband just called from Colorado airport where he said they announced they just raised the alert to "orange". What's that about? I haven't seen anything in the press. Suppose they will come up with another major terrorist plot that will take over all the wire services and TV news stories in order to overpower or play down any press concerning the vote on Gonzales tomorrow? Isn't that the way it usually plays out? About the same time something goes bad, they suddenly pop up with another mojor terrorist plot??
June 10th, 2007 at 8:10 pmThis is ridiculous..
Olbermann did a VERY good breakdown of this crap a week ago in "The Nexus of Politics and Terror" (transcript):
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19055859/
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/04/olbermann-the-nexus-of-politics-and-terror-2/
June 10th, 2007 at 8:11 pmHere is the video on "The Nexus Of Terror"
Good night, everybody.
June 10th, 2007 at 8:18 pmJG > Bush Regime wants lots of diversions tomorrow in the press. Paris Hilton thing cannot divert enough attention away from Gonzales vote.
June 10th, 2007 at 8:22 pmI thought the Attorney General was to serve the citizens of the USA, not George Bush. So what's this crap about serving at the pleasure of the president?
June 10th, 2007 at 9:08 pmThere is one thing the chymp could certainly do with the vote of no confidence.
June 10th, 2007 at 9:35 pmTwist in into a long thin cylinder and shove it up his ... you get the idea.
If I were in the Congress, I'd sure be reminding my Republican colleagues that Bush and Gonzales will not be in office forever and when they are replaced, as they inevitably will be, the damage that will be done to the Republican "brand" when an independent AG actually investigates the shennanigans of Gonzales and Co., will be far, far greater in 18 mos. than any damage that may accrue NOW. There best strategy is to cut their losses and the sooner the better. They may win the battle in the short term, but if they're banking on the American people forgetting the current AG's unlawful activities after the 2008 elections, they're sorely mistaken. HOLD. FEET. TO. FIRE!!!
June 10th, 2007 at 9:42 pmI thought the Attorney General was to serve the citizens of the USA, not George Bush. So what’s this crap about serving at the pleasure of the president?
Comment by hope — June 10, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Exactly.
June 10th, 2007 at 9:43 pmBush and Co have corrupted the job description, and have since tried to convince us that the AG serves the president.
The AG serves AT the pleasure of the president, but still is tasked with serving JUSTICE.
Alberto Gonzales has been Bush's personal slate wiper for many many years now, and has simply continued to fulfill that same role.
If the White House and Republicans weren't worried about a vote of no-confidence on Gonzales, they wouldn't be working so hard at trying to prevent it. The fact of the matter is that Senate Republicans up for re-election next year will be put on record as either supporting or opposing Gonzales. For those, like Sen. Coleman (R-MN), who already said publicly that Gonzales should resign, they'll have a tough time explaining to voters how they still have confidence in him. They don't want to have to vote on it. Binding or not, it puts the matter back in the public eye and points out that Gonzales should be gone by now and would be if Bush, the least liked president in history, weren't standing in the way. Impeachment becomes more palatable to the general public every day.
June 10th, 2007 at 10:57 pmI thought GW only listened to Billy Graham, directly to God, Uncle Dick Cheney, his mama, and Karl Rove.
Of course God has been giving mesasges of no confidence for some time now. Get the rest to speak no confidence and maybe he'll listen....but I doubt it.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:49 pmFunny thing is that this scandal hasn't really opened up yet.
When it does break, you will find more corruption in the Justice department regarding elections and election cycles that there are drag dealers in prison.
This story is HUGE! and it will ALLLLLLLL come out.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:52 pm...or drug dealers either.
Sorry, bit tired. goodnight.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:53 pmCrap Eargy Earp, I was just getting the visual of drag dealers ginned up...
June 10th, 2007 at 11:59 pmDrag dealers....that does sound interesting....
June 11th, 2007 at 12:25 amI'm a bit confused. Given that the US Congress does not follow European style parliamentary system, what good is a vote of no confidence, really, besides political grandstanding?
June 11th, 2007 at 12:25 amYou people need to take a deepppp breath.
Gonzales the worst AG ever? I have two words for you: Janet ... Reno.
June 11th, 2007 at 12:41 amGonzales the worst AG ever? I have two words for you: Janet … Reno.
Comment by romeo hotel
Idiot -- John Mitchell
June 11th, 2007 at 1:03 amwhat happened to the beer debate?
June 11th, 2007 at 1:25 amWould that the US were more like Britain's (or any other) parliamentary system in which a "no confidence" vote can be held against the Prime Minister and bring down the whole government. The real beauty is that a "no confidence" motion can be brought against the Prime Minister for virtually any reason, even if the PM himself--or herself--is not the direct reason. Of course, the parliamentary system "no confidence" motions are most likely to take place only if the Loyal Opposition is strong enough to pull enough of the PM's MPs on their side.
June 11th, 2007 at 1:32 amwhat happened to the beer debate?
Comment by darth vader — June 11, 2007 @ 1:25 am
Indeed!
June 11th, 2007 at 1:42 amgonzales just got the kiss of death from dummya much like "heckava job brownie" and " scummy rummy will have a job as long as i'm in office". once these turds get such a vocal backing from the white house, they conveniently slip back into their sordid obscurity in shame.
June 11th, 2007 at 6:43 amtony snow should watch his lying mouth -he has enough health problems as it is
June 11th, 2007 at 6:43 amNow I am really getting pissed off at my neighbors and fellow workers who voted republican in 2000 and 2004!
It was obvious to all of those who voted for Gore and Kerry the Dubya was and is an idiot. Those who voted for ass-wipe Bush are bringing us all down.
This idiot must be removed from office.
June 11th, 2007 at 7:47 amwhy hasn't anyone posted bush's complete comment about how the vote will not have any bearing on how he runs "his government" - that line was absolutely infuriating!!!!!!!!!
June 11th, 2007 at 7:52 amBush doesn't listen to anything these days. Can't we just impeach him and Cheney before they do any more damage?
June 11th, 2007 at 8:03 am[Test -]
June 11th, 2007 at 8:45 amSee new Gonzales thread (one of 10 today): http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/11/thinkfast-june-11-2007/#comments
June 11th, 2007 at 9:32 amBush's rebuffing of the no-confidence vote will do him in.
June 11th, 2007 at 9:35 amA no confidence vote if passed is meaningless to an administration who considers the Constitution and Bill of Rights as non-binding.
June 11th, 2007 at 11:28 amYeah and remniscient of the "decider" comments he again proudly declares that it's his government and he has both the right and the authority to overrule any futile adherence to a democracy.
My God. We're not talking about the worst president in History. In many ways we are talking about the survival of our system of government.
Of course whenever one takes the president to task on the decisions he has made regarding Iraq, Katrina, etc. we hear Snow hollering the "blame game" lines.
June 11th, 2007 at 12:03 pmhttp://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/intellect-intelligence-and-awareness/
This is what happens in a world where the intellect rules supreme.
It seems to me that there is no room for intelligence or awareness of any form now. Is Bush's attitude a manifestation of all that is wrong with the world? He really is a bit dark. Kinda Shadow like...isn't he?
June 12th, 2007 at 9:26 am