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Drudge implicates Israel behind Lieberman’s call for bombing Iran.»

Middle East Progress responds:

Whatever one thinks of Senator Lieberman’s statements on Iran, implying as the Drudge Report does, that Senator Lieberman made his proposal based not on his views as a United States Senator but on his relationship to Israel is despicable. …. That picture has no relation, either temporally or substantively, to the statement Senator Lieberman made on CBS’ Face the Nation on Sunday.

Drudge’s picture, which has now been taken down, depicts Lieberman shaking hands with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert:

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121 Responses to “Drudge implicates Israel behind Lieberman’s call for bombing Iran.”

  1. jmannyc Says:

    For once, Drudge had it right!


  2. JohnHenryCouldHammer Says:

    Please. Never. Ever. Tell me. What Drudge says.

    Thank you.


  3. Namtillaku Says:

    What?! A Senator has ulterior motives influencing the way he/she votes? I don’t believe it - what a surprise.


  4. Jay Randal Says:

    Well if Drudge is saying something against LIEberman, then this is the first time I agree with him. Traitor Joe does work for Israel.


  5. Fred Says:

    i also believe Lieberman is looking out for Israel’s Interest and not for America’s.!!!!!!!!!!!


  6. big papa Says:

    BUSH*T!

    …it’s the ONE time Drudge may have gotten something…

    …RIGHT!


  7. Mr. Bush Goes To Hell Says:

    Now watch the Rapeublic SMEAR MACHINE say that Drudge is a

    “LIBERAL”

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


  8. jonny Says:

    We shouldn’t be supporting Israel any way!

    NON-INTERVENTIONIST FOREIGN POLICY!

    Remove dual Israel/American citizenship holders from the top positions of our govt. and restore PEACE TO THE WORLD!

    You want Peace, USA? STOP SUPPORTING ISRAEL!

    Once you do that, remove Fabian Socialists and restore the Republic.

    Jewish Feminism has done enough evil on this planet


  9. Kate Henry Says:

    Why is Drudge attacking LIEberman? He’s one of them. I don’t understand this at all.


  10. JPV Says:

    Yeah, Drudge is a Jew himself and a MAJOR watercarrier for both the Neocon and Israeli interests.

    I have a feeling that in his arrogance, he wasn’t intending to criticize Lieberman, but just made a stupid mistake.

    Obviously being who he is, he probably likes that Lieberman is affiliated with the Israelis, and in his own myopic world, just assumes that other are too.


  11. Jay Randal Says:

    Kate > Drudge is NOT pro-Israel, but now the Israeli lobby will come after him.


  12. Mr. President Says:

    Comment by Kate Henry — June 11, 2007 @ 8:09 pm
    Comment by JPV — June 11, 2007 @ 8:15 pm

    So, it’s ok to make sweep generalization about jews, but I can’t do say that mulsims are a bunch of shiteating sand-monkeys.

    How Hypocritical of YOu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  13. Mr. President Says:

    Comment by Kate Henry — June 11, 2007 @ 8:09 pm
    Comment by JPV — June 11, 2007 @ 8:15 pm

    So, it’s ok to make sweep generalization about jews, but I can’t say that mulsims are a bunch of shiteating sand-monkeys.

    How Hypocritical of YOu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  14. Mr. President Says:

    my bad for the double post


  15. JPV Says:

    Drudge is NOT pro-Israel, but now the Israeli lobby will come after him.

    Comment by Jay Randal

    Dude I like you, but you frequently post erroneous information.

    Drudge is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, VERY pro-Israel.


  16. RUCeriuous Says:

    It wouldn’t be so completely inane if Vannie could even spell Muslims.


  17. JPV Says:

    AS A REMINDER, PLEASE IGNORE THE TROLLS, AS IF THEY DON’T EXIST.


  18. DonS Says:

    So what is the TP slant here. What are you folks saying. Liberman is not in the pocket of the Isreali lobby and, heavens forbid, would never conflate the interests of Israel with those of the US.

    Get a reality read before you start implying the anti Semitic angle. And start that with a self check.


  19. RUCeriuous Says:

    Is that a menorah growing out of Joe Liebernam’s head?


  20. HeckuvahJob Brownie Says:

    #10, Drudge, like many others in the American pro-Israel lobby hate Leiberman, not for what he believes in, but for making himself a poster child for the U.S wars against Muslims.

    he’s supposed to think it and vote. not say it. Ever.


  21. Mr. President Says:

    AS A REMINDER, PLEASE IGNORE THE TROLLS, AS IF THEY DON’T EXIST.

    Comment by JPV — June 11, 2007 @ 8:28 pm

    Thanx, dickface,

    For the acknowledgment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111


  22. Alejandro Says:

    It’s almost comical. Both the US and Israel want someone to attack Iran. Israel is trying to get the US to do it and the US is trying to get Israel to do it. It’s like the kids on the old Life Cereal commercial.


  23. A Liberal America for Life Says:

    “Mr. President,” I have a feeling that you are full of hate because you are pointing out our mistakes and hypocrisy. The focus is on the Republicans, alright?

    You shouldn’t call yourself “Mr. President” because you are not electable to a left-leaning America.


  24. klyde Says:

    Drudge is like a blind squirell who occasionally finds a nut.


  25. Mr. President Says:

    You shouldn’t call yourself “Mr. President” because you are not electable to a left-leaning America.

    Comment by A Liberal America for Life — June 11, 2007 @ 8:37 pm

    Oh, GOoD thing Congress has displayed confidence in A RIGHT-LEANING America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I said it before, I’ll say it again,

    BUSH/CHENEY ‘08

    (If the President does it, that MEANS it is legal)


  26. A Liberal America for Life Says:

    Sooo…when is Drudge going to get fired for spewing hate?


  27. veritas Says:

    Jewish PainBody Lieberman always acts out of the collective anger and angst of the Holocaust. It’s sad that he cannot rise above this collective Jewish Painbody and rise spiritually which would translate into greater personal integrity for him. When it comes to pro-israeli, anti-arab sentiments, Lieberman can be counted on to show his incredible “painbody bias”. He certainly CAN NEVER be trusted with the presidency of our country with this collective “jewish painbody” he carries around with him every day.


  28. wes Says:

    israel was a mistake and a human construct of wwii - it will go away - but unfortunately not until it bankrupts america politics, money and ideals…the last 60 years seem to have been made quite violent simply and only because of israel. the entire us government is co-opted by israel - and countless innocent arabs have paid the price.


  29. veritas Says:

    Anyone who has ever been discriminated against or persecuted can identify with that particular “painbody” and evoke anger, sympathy and an entire panoply of manipulative sentiments from others; that is, until they recognize what’s occurring. These days the painbody syndrome is rampant….just start really looking at those around you and you will readily see what I man…..women, people of color, illegal immigrants, etc. They all have their collective “painbody” to overcome before they can function from their authentic self.


  30. Mr. President Says:

    “Mr. President,” I have a feeling that you are full of hate because you are pointing out our mistakes and hypocrisy. The focus is on the Republicans, alright?

    Comment by A Liberal America for Life — June 11, 2007 @ 8:37 pm

    Whoa there… “FULL of HATE”???

    ME??????

    I take pleasure in the hypocrisy shown here by

    Comment by Kate Henry — June 11, 2007 @ 8:09 pm
    Comment by JPV — June 11, 2007 @ 8:15 pm
    et al.

    It proves that they eat just as much shit as they think the REpubs do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  31. veritas Says:

    Once you recognize precisely where Lieberman is coming from, it’s easy to see how he sold his soul to the devil - the anti-arab, pro-Israel Bush Team and GOP. Patently clear.


  32. A Liberal America for Life Says:

    Ok I see. This Mr. President person believes that Democrats shouldn’t win every election, ever. Republicans were invented to try to step in front of Democrats, the rightful winners. Even this “God” person you talk about intend for Democrats to pick up the win. The Republicans are like sharks in a clean blue sea.

    Bush and Cheney cant run for another term you dodohead. I think you should know that. If you pick a political argument you are going to lose.


  33. Mr. President Says:

    If you pick a political argument you are going to lose.

    Comment by A Liberal America for Life — June 11, 2007 @ 8:47 pm

    DIdn’t you guys say something like that about Ally McBerto Gonzales?????

    HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  34. A Liberal America for Life Says:

    We don’t eat poop Mr. President. We are for a clean environment, even if that means reducing the human population. Whatever it takes, ok?

    The political book says that only Republicans eat poop. That’s why college is important to me.


  35. Roboto Says:

    Bad news

    Giulliani is leading Our Dear Mother Hillary 49-39!
    We can’t allow this.
    Let’s hope for more deaths in Iraq and another Katrina!
    Our Dear Mother must win!

    Giuliani 49 18 39 76 24 34 92 57 41
    H R Clinton 39 67 47 16 66 43 3 32 45
    Someone else (vol.) 9 9 9 8 9 15 5 10 8
    Don’t know 3 6 5 – 1


  36. Mr. President Says:

    We are for a clean environment, even if that means reducing the human population. Whatever it takes, ok?
    Comment by A Liberal America for Life — June 11, 2007 @ 8:49 pm

    Whatever it takes!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!???????????????

    Reducing the HUMAN POPULATION???!?!?!?????????!!!!!!!!!!!

    What are ya sayin’ there buddy?????????????????????????????????

    DO we need to exterminate some people????????????????????


  37. A Liberal America for Life Says:

    I trusted in Alberto for the sake of diversity. Now I feel that feel that he has betrayed me. If you are latino Republican, you might fit the stereotype of a lazy mexican, ok? I know that’s rude, but Republicans deserve it.

    I will never vote for a Republican candidate. Democrats are meant to win, no matter what it takes.


  38. Trollminder Says:

    The LIEberman pic is still up at Drudge


  39. Mr. President Says:

    A Liberal America for Life

    =

    A troll


  40. A Liberal America for Life Says:

    um….uh….no. We don’t want to exterminate anybody. You’re making stuff up! Liberals are for preserving peace and life, ok.


  41. A Liberal America for Life Says:

    Thinkprogress.org is for progressive thinkers. Only the Republican intruders could possibly be the trolls, got that?


  42. A Liberal America for Life Says:

    I’ve been a long time reader here at Thinkprogress, and I have an entire shelf of progressive-thinking books. I read them alot.


  43. The Joker Says:

    wes,
    I wish Israel would exterminate the Palestinians and Nuke Damascus, Teheran and Mecca!

    Hey you can be anti-Jewish I can be anti-Muslims!
    Screw Muslims Mohammad was a pedophile and a dog hater!


  44. A Liberal America for Life Says:

    Any non-progressives need to be kicked off of here IMMEDIATELY.


  45. Coffins draped with flags Says:

    Interesting that posters will fall into the “troll trap”. Trolls stop by progressive sites to try and divert the conversation away from the topic. Kind of like the media keeps the publics attention away from Americans dying in Iraq by posting headlines about runaway brides, Paris Hilton, Britney Spears etc… . The media and the trolls do not want us to discuss the real issues such as all the traitors in the Bush/Cheney cabal. They want us to look away.

    Signed: Alone on the homefront with the bones of the fallen dead… the fallen dead that returned from Iraq in coffins draped with flags.


  46. Armando Gomez Says:

    Drudge implicates Israel behind Lieberman’s call for bombing Iran? I really hate saying this: for once, Drudge may be right.


  47. Roboto Says:

    Wes,
    I agree Hitler should’ve finished off the Jews.
    Israel wouldn’t exist and the Muslims wopuld be peaceful and tolerant!


  48. Oldfart Says:

    Lieberman needs to register as an agent of a foreign country and give up or be impeached from his position in the Senate. He is strictly an Israeli agent and has no interest in the United States other than as a source of Israeli funding or as a source of bodies to throw into battle to protect Israel.


  49. Ben Dover Says:

    Most of the problems in the country and the world can be linked to the pressures on natural resources from over population. Want to reduce dependency on oil products? Want to preserve arable land? Tired of seeing development going on everywhere? Tired of all the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere? All those issues are there becuase there are too many humans on too finite a land base. Bush wont promote family planning because his “baste” as he calls it opposes family planning. Funny how the Repugnicans care about a fetus until its born and then could give a rat’s cheney about it. But the bottom line is that population control will be something that politicians will have to face in the very near future. You think there is hand wringing about global warming? Wait until the next forward thinking politician (that would have to be Al Gore’s son) comes out promoting population reduction by substantially reducing the birth rate. Too bad I’ll have expired by the time that happens but it promises to be one hell of an issue.


  50. Roboto Says:

    I agree Armando Islam is a peaceful religion!


  51. A Liberal America for Life Says:

    Any questions?


  52. Roboto Says:

    Oldfart,
    I agree I wish Hitler had finished off the Jews.
    No Israel means no war!
    Death to Israel I hope Iran nukes them!


  53. A Liberal America for Life Says:

    Drudge is really full of hate.


  54. Gerald Gibson JR. Says:

    Israel should be exyetminated.
    That’ll solve all our problems.
    I hope Iran does nuke them!


  55. dafletcha Says:

    Jesus on a pogo stick! We need an ignore button up in here.


  56. JPV Says:

    Any non-progressives need to be kicked off of here IMMEDIATELY.

    Comment by A Liberal America for Life

    Interesting that posters will fall into the “troll trap”. Trolls stop by progressive sites to try and divert the conversation away from the topic. Kind of like the media keeps the publics attention away from Americans dying in Iraq by posting headlines about runaway brides, Paris Hilton, Britney Spears etc… . The media and the trolls do not want us to discuss the real issues such as all the traitors in the Bush/Cheney cabal. They want us to look away.

    Comment by Coffins draped with flag

    The solution is VERY simple…

    As I’ve been saying, just ignore them, and they will eventually go away. Don’t bother to respond to any of their taunts, don’t get in a debate with them, it’s useless and they aren’t interested in honest debate anyway. They are just trying to hijack, and distract, from any substantive dialog on sites like this.


  57. kasinca Says:

    Lieberman is batshit crazy. Harry Reid should take away his chairmanship.


  58. Mr. President Says:

    The solution is VERY simple…

    As I’ve been saying, just ignore them, and they will eventually go away. Don’t bother to respond to any of their taunts, don’t get in a debate with them, it’s useless and they aren’t interested in honest debate anyway. They are just trying to hijack, and distract, from any substantive dialog on sites like this.

    Comment by JPV — June 11, 2007 @ 9:09 pm

    Thanx, dickface,

    For the acknowledgment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  59. big papa Says:

    Joe Lieberman is an Israeli agent…

    …the Ahmad Chalabi of Tel Aviv…

    …his assets should be confiscated…

    …he and his faily deported…

    …and he should have visited upon him that which he wishes on the Iranians…


  60. Devil's Advocate Says:

    Looks like Lieberman has lost it completely. He wants a war on THREE fronts now?

    Maybe, you guys are correct. He is so consumed by Israel’s future that he cannot remember that he is a U.S. citizen and that he should put the U.S. ‘ interests first.

    Someone ought to point this out. Good for Drudge for doing it.


  61. JPV Says:

    Jesus on a pogo stick! We need an ignore button up in here.

    Comment by dafletcha

    Yeah one of the other forums that I post on, has a “Mute” button designed to ignore certain members.

    I just sent an e-mail to TP to encourage them to implement a similar function.

    I suggest that anybody else, that is sick and tired of the moronic and sophomoric crap coming from these trolls, do the same.


  62. Roboto Says:

    Devil’s Advocate,
    I agree Death to Israel!


  63. Rabbi Yitzak Mordechai Rabinowitz Says:

    Dear Friends,
    I would first like to say that I do disagree with my friend Joeseph Lieberman regarding the issue of Iran and Iraq, however, I am deeply concerned about a few of the responses I have read on this forum. I would encourage a few members to take a critical look at the Israeli/Palestinian issues before making remarks that might be slightly offensive for some. One may disagree with Mr. Lieberman about Iran, as I do, but please do not automatically assume he is acting only in the interest of Israel instead of what he personally believes is best for America. Additionally, some members on this forum have articulated that the strong Israel/US relationship may not be such a positive thing. The United States is a longstanding ally of Israel because of shared democratic values and strategic interests including the rejection of terrorism. While myself and others have disagreed with some policies of Israel, it is important to recognize the significance of a strong democracy in the heart of the middle east.

    Sincere wishes,

    Rabbi Yitzak Mordechai Rabinowitz


  64. big papa Says:

    Bad news

    Giulliani is leading Our Dear Mother Hillary 49-39!

    Comment by Roboto #34

    …DUHmerikkka and the cross-dressing Juliani…

    …deserve each other…

    …the next President will be blamed by the dumb-ass masses for…

    ..the cluster-fu*k the criminal Bushite junta has created…

    …AND…

    …your comments about Hitler and the Jews…

    …and the Muslims/Islam…

    …is over simplified rubbish…

    …what we ALL need is more RESPECT…

    …for life…

    …for real…


  65. dafletcha Says:

    Beware the llort! This insidious creature claims to be a progressive, but their posts quickly become more and more inflammatory and less and less tolerant. They don’t believe a word of what they’re writing and neither should you. (llort = reverse troll)

    Their purpose? To lend creedence to the popular talking point that “left-wing” sites spew bile and hate. Remember, these folks like to create their own reality. Let’s not be enablers for them.


  66. big papa Says:

    The United States is a longstanding ally of Israel because of shared democratic values and strategic interests…

    Comment by Rabbi Yitzak Mordechai Rabinowitz #62

    …fancy garbage speak for…

    …HEGEMONY…

    …and land (resource) grabbing…

    …right Rabbi?


  67. Stella Octangula Says:

    I think Drudge is actually a nut who climbed a tree looking for a squirrel.


  68. George Says:

    One may disagree with Mr. Lieberman about Iran, as I do, but please do not automatically assume he is acting only in the interest of Israel…

    Why not? That’s what comes through.


  69. Ed Deevy Says:

    Lieberman puts the interests of the Israeli government aheard of the interests of the American people. Does that make him a traitor?


  70. Roboto Says:

    big papa,
    Exactly Israel is an evil regime.
    Unlike the freedom loving Progressive Iranian that stands for freedom and liberty!


  71. Roboto Says:

    Ed Deevy,
    I agree the Jews should be exterminated.
    Replace them with Muslims!
    Islam is peace.
    Look at how every country Muslims live with Non Muslims there’s peace!


  72. big papa Says:

    test


  73. JPV Says:

    Dear Friends,
    I would first like to say that I do disagree with my friend Joeseph Lieberman regarding the issue of Iran and Iraq, however, I am deeply concerned about a few of the responses I have read on this forum. I would encourage a few members to take a critical look at the Israeli/Palestinian issues before making remarks that might be slightly offensive for some.

    Rabbi Yitzak Mordechai Rabinowitz

    Haven’t seen you post here before. How did you find out about this discussion anyway?

    From this perhaps…

    http://www.giyus.org/

    Anyway, the person making inflammatory comments is a “troll”.

    He is posting this trash, in an attempt to make the people that frequent this site look bad. His opinions do not reflect the mindset of the “regulars” around here.

    Just ignore him.

    We do.


  74. Roboto Says:

    JPV,
    Israel should be exterminated!


  75. big papa Says:

    Comment by Roboto #70

    …how many times a day do you pray to your gods…

    …Bushiva and L’il Dick?

    …have YOU sacrificed any of your piglets to them yet?

    …what an idiot…


  76. JPV Says:

    Please, just ignore him.


  77. Roboto Says:

    big papa,
    I’m Atheist but I am thinking of becoming Muslim.
    Islam is a the new revolutionary thing to become.
    They hate Jews and Christians!
    Also Muslims hate Dogs!
    I hate Dogs!
    death to the Jews!


  78. big papa Says:

    any day now TP…


  79. dafletcha Says:

    IMHO, it’s not that Leiberman puts Israel’s best interests before America’s. It’s just he believes that anything in Israel’s best interest is de facto in America’s best interest. Subtle difference, but there you go.

    That said, he’s dead wrong. As are Doug Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, Scooter Libby, and all the other slaves to the Israel lobby who helped get us into this Iraq mess.

    Does this make me an anti-semite? No. An anti-Zionist? Probably.


  80. Gerald Gibson Says:


    Rabbi Yitzak Mordechai Rabinowitz

    A strong democracy is not a country that lives in the midst of occupation and a constant war stance with its neighbors…

    Think about it.


  81. big papa Says:

    JPV #75

    We’re just funnin’…

    …it’s got nothing serious to say…

    …therefore our responses to it…

    …reflect that…


  82. Rabbi Yitzak Mordechai Rabinowitz Says:

    Dear JPV,

    I appreciate the clarification. I know most of the fellow posters have positive intentions and goals, and I appreciate what this web site has done as far as allowing important debate on many significant issues of our time. I have read many of these “blogs” for quite a while, but I don’t normally post a response.

    We may have dissagreements about the policies of Israel and the middle east, but I would again respectfully encourage every person to be educated, and review the history of the conflicts in the region from a variety of sources.

    Sincere wishes,

    Rabbi Yitzak Mordechai Rabinowitz


  83. Roboto Says:

    Gerald Gibson,
    I agree I hope Iran nukes Israel!
    If only Hitler had finished the final solution.
    What a better world we’d be!


  84. boink Says:

    Aipac The Israel Lobby
    For the past several decades, and especially since the Six-Day War in 1967, the centrepiece of US Middle Eastern policy has been its relationship with Israel. The combination of unwavering support for Israel and the related effort to spread ‘democracy’ throughout the region has inflamed Arab and Islamic opinion and jeopardised not only US security but that of much of the rest of the world. This situation has no equal in American political history.

    Why has the US been willing to set aside its own security and that of many of its allies in order to advance the interests of another state?

    One might assume that the bond between the two countries was based on shared strategic interests or compelling moral imperatives, but neither explanation can account for the remarkable level of material and diplomatic support that the US provides.

    Instead, the thrust of US policy in the region derives almost entirely from domestic politics, and especially the activities of the ‘Israel Lobby’. Other special-interest groups have managed to skew foreign policy, but no lobby has managed to divert it as far from what the national interest would suggest, while simultaneously convincing Americans that US interests and those of the other country – in this case, Israel – are essentially identical.

    Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing that given to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct economic and military assistance since 1976, and is the largest recipient in total since World War Two, to the tune of well over $140 billion (in 2004 dollars). Israel receives about $3 billion in direct assistance each year, roughly one-fifth of the foreign aid budget, and worth about $500 a year for every Israeli. This largesse is especially striking since Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to that of South Korea or Spain.

    U.S. support for Israel has led to such disasters as America’s status as the No. 1 target for Islamic terrorists; and that such an otherwise inexplicable departure from good sense can be accounted for only by the power of “The Lobby” (their capitalization), an overwhelmingly Jewish force abetted by some Christian evangelicals and a gentile neocon collaborator or two, who have hijacked American foreign policy and controlled it for decades.?


  85. zang Says:

    ANYONE WHO MENTIONS ISRAEL HATES JEWS


  86. heyzeus Says:

    guess that would be you, zang……….


  87. heyzeus Says:

    you really should get that frostbite looked at, Robotoe…………..


  88. pitman Says:

    Rabbi Yitzak Mordechai Rabinowitz

    Hey Rabbi or whatever the hell you guys call yourselves. Does Israel have the right to attack unarmed U.S. warships like the U.S.S. Liberty and kill American military personnel. Congress does no investigation of this matter in 1967 and Israel never apologizes to the American family members of this ship. Surviving crew members have only recently sued Israel for reparations. Does anyone know of a so-called U.S. ally that commits an act of war such as this and gets away with it???? How come Pollard had such easy access to our country’s secrets? Me thinks other countries don’t have those kind of luxuries with the U.S.


  89. JPV Says:

    I appreciate the clarification. I know most of the fellow posters have positive intentions and goals, and I appreciate what this web site has done as far as allowing important debate on many significant issues of our time. I have read many of these “blogs” for quite a while, but I don’t normally post a response.

    We may have dissagreements about the policies of Israel and the middle east, but I would again respectfully encourage every person to be educated, and review the history of the conflicts in the region from a variety of sources.

    Sincere wishes,

    Rabbi Yitzak Mordechai Rabinowitz

    There is a belief, that many of our leaders are jumping to the conclusion that Iran should be attacked on the flimsiest of evidence.

    That being the case, I believe that most of the posters here, are bringing into question where Lieberman’s loyalties really lie, regarding this matter.

    I personally can’t believe that attacking Iran is in the best interest of the US, and that we should at LEAST try negotiating with them first. If that fails, then perhaps more aggressive measures need be taken.

    War should be the option of last resort, not the first.


  90. RUCeriuous Says:

    China and Russia will prove to be the keys to having Iran back off its nuke program. If either or both impose economic sanctions, it’ll be a done deal.
    Of course, that said, there’s very little incentive for them to do so, particularly China, if they can just wait for us to fu(k it up.


  91. JPV Says:

    The Chinese VERY much want their oil too.


  92. Jay Randal Says:

    JPV > Drudge might be playing a game on this, but otherwise he implies that he is NOT as pro-Israel as Traitor Joe LIEberman is.


  93. Jane E. Schneider Says:

    Whether he’s acting in Israel’s best interests or in what he thinks (misguidedly) is in the U.S.’s best interests, he’s WRONG.


  94. RUCeriuous Says:

    JPV ~
    I see the Chinese as extending their economic sphere of influence by cozying up with Iran, and being their chief trading partner. Why would Putin want an air defense system in Azerbejian if he wasn’t afraid of Iran?
    That allows China to be their main ally/protector/economic buddy.
    Called geopolitics, a thing the Bush cabal hasn’t a clue about.


  95. JPV Says:

    Whether he’s acting in Israel’s best interests or in what he thinks (misguidedly) is in the U.S.’s best interests, he’s WRONG.

    Comment by Jane E. Schneider

    When it comes down to it, I’m not sure if war with Iran is even in Israel’s best interest.

    From what I gather, the majority of Israeli’s are actually against going in this direction too.

    I think that extremists, in both US and Israeli camps are taking this on, as a misguided and EXTREMELY dangerous plan.


  96. Gyps Says:

    pretty logical assumption.


  97. Dr. Wu Says:

    It’s unfair to say that Lieberman is merely a shill for AIPAC. In fact, he’s also a shill for MBNA and Big Pharma. He’s multitasking.


  98. roddy Says:

    Lieberman’s primary interest is Israel wraped in yankee doodle bullcrap. US support of zionism is the the reason all of the middle east hates us, but nobody ever talks about that fundamental truth.


  99. tryggth Says:

    Israel is a great country. So are we. The two are different. Israel believes that if it was US in that geographical spot we would be the same. We would not.


  100. NeoCONS 'R' SCUM Says:

    ITS’ ALL ABOUT ISRAEL IF YOU’RE A NEOCON (SCUM).


  101. Kilo Says:

    Rabbi Yitzak Mordechai Rabinowitz

    Hey Rabbi or whatever the hell you guys call yourselves.

    Good guess retard. What gave it away ?

    Does Israel have the right to attack unarmed U.S. warships like the U.S.S. Liberty and kill American military personnel.

    They have about the same right as the US had for blowing up an unarmed plane carrying Iranian civilians during the Iran-Iraq war.

    Congress does no investigation of this matter in 1967 and Israel never apologizes to the American family members of this ship.

    Except for the 5 congressional investigations and the other 5 investigations by the senate, various branches of the miltitary and intelligence communities, etc.
    Apart from those 10, nothing.

    Surviving crew members have only recently sued Israel for reparations.

    What, did they have something else on for the past 40 years ?

    Does anyone know of a so-called U.S. ally that commits an act of war such as this and gets away with it????

    Well yeah, pretty much all of them in every warzone. And in far less confusing circumstances than those of the 6-day war.
    Why look elsewhere though, there is no closer ally to the US military than the US military. Not heard the term “friendly fire” before ?

    How come Pollard had such easy access to our country’s secrets?

    Why did the intelligence analyst have access to intelligence ? Yeah there’s a puzzle.
    While we’re at it, why did the supply clerk Jessica Lynch have access to supplies ?

    Me thinks other countries don’t have those kind of luxuries with the U.S.
    Comment by pitman — June 11, 2007 @ 10:35 pm

    You mean apart from the Russians and Chinese ?


  102. Shirley Says:

    FOLK’S EVEN AMY GOODMAN HAS AIRED A GUEST INTERVIEW ON OH-SO-LIBERAL DEMOCRACY NOW! WHICH STATED THAT GEORGE H.W. BUSH DEFINED NEOCONSERVATIVE TO HIS SON, WHEN ASKED “What’s a neoconservative?” AS ISRAEL! Lieberman and most Jews are Israel first. And since they control, in large part, public opinion, they control the western world. (Hell! The very book Propaganda was written by a Jew, Edward Bernays, nephew to Sigmund Freud!)


  103. Shirley Says:

    And have any of you seen WHY THE CONGRESS HAS DROPPED ITS INVESTIGATION OF THE WHITE HOUSE FAILED RESPONSE TO KATRINA?
    That’s right! Old Joe Lieberman who was in charge of that investigation, dropped that investigation.
    http://www.nola.com/ news/ t-p/ washington/ index.ssf?/ base/ news-1/ 1168673400293640.xml&coll=1


  104. dsmith Says:

    Notice how Schumer and Emmanuel, both Lieberman like zealots for Israel, are so concerned about the displaced attorneys. It’s just a smokescreen to get the attention away from having additional investigations into who prompted the invasion of Iraq.

    Evidence will prove that Israel and Jewish zealots intrenched in our government will be exposed should a serious investigation take place now that Rockefeller is head of the investigation instead of Sen. Roberts who blocked additional hearings.


  105. fat karl Says:

    Are you out of your mind. The statement is all about what Israel wants.


  106. Roboto Says:

    I’m glad my fellow Leftists want Israel to be wiped off the mao.
    We should stand shoulder to shoulder with the Progressive regime of Iran!
    Iran is a light onto the world!
    Death to Israel!


  107. Josh Says:

    Would someone please cleanse this thread of its antisemitism. It reflects poorly on this blog and on all progressives.


  108. nullsad Says:

    Go to agree w/ 1st pst. Drudge is right for once. Israel will be the undoing of mankind. They will never “play well with others” unless they own and control the play ground.


  109. Roboto Says:

    Nullsad,
    Agreed Israel must be wiped off the map!
    I wish Hitler had finished the job!


  110. Josh Says:

    Comments from Roboto, Bib Papa and the Joker need to be taken down. Now.

    And please monitor the Lieberman postings more closely.


  111. nullsad Says:

    Would someone please cleanse this thread of its antisemitism. It reflects poorly on this blog and on all progressives.

    Comment by Josh — June 12, 2007 @ 10:04 am

    It’s not “antisemitism” it is a fact. Look at the policys and actions of Israel and explain to me how they are right with some logic not just thet they are the “chosen” race. Why is it that if you disagree with and other race/culture it is an opinion that is allowed and expressable but if you disagree w/ anything Israeli or Jewish it is antisemitism…


  112. Hedley Lamarr Says:

    For five years Blair was called Bush’s poodle. Now, are we becoming a poodle of Israel? Why?


  113. nullsad Says:

    I do not feel Israel should be wiped off the map. If only someone had shot Hitler while he was standing on street corners handing out flyers… we might not be in this situation today. However unless Israel gets a wake up call and acknowledges that other cultures are equal to them and have just as much right to life I do nto see this ending well. How do you reason with a person who will destroy your home and take your land because the land you are on god promised to them…..


  114. nullsad Says:

    interesting wording there Josh……..’cleanse’


  115. Josh Says:

    Thanks for noticing.

    But the numerous pro-Hitler posts remain, and American Progress should be ashamed of itself.


  116. zionismisevil Says:

    dont let evil win!

    israel needs to be removed but not killed . that is what they want,,
    you cant defeat pure evil by murder


  117. Deniz Yeter Says:

    Israel wants to attack Iran and would try to convince people in the US government to attack Iran?

    OMG NO WAY!!!!!!!

    What’s it called… AIPAC?

    … American Israel Public Affairs Committee…

    Is that a new rapper or something?

    (complete sarcasm)


  118. refreshing Says:

    refresh


  119. Quizmos Says:

    “Ignore that man behind the curtain, I am the great OZ”. We don’t get fooled again!!!
    Send Lieberman packing, and let him take Wolfowitz, Pearl, and Abrams with him. Israel could use a few bad men and God knows they’ve fucked over America.


  120. TRUTH Says:

    joe is Isreal FIRST, AmeriKa last.

    Shame on anyone who voted for this parasite.

    Zionism is the ONE and ONLY true evil of the planet.


  121. What the... Says:

    This is the absolute lamest list of comments I’ve ever run across. Of course, maybe it picks up after the first 50, but I couldn’t take it anymore after that point.

    Anyone, including me I guess, who posts here needs to get a life, because you’re arguing with trash.

    Scratch that. Stay here and keep posting amongst your idiot selves. I’m going to learn from this experience and never be back. So I’ve got that going for me. Which is nice. But it’s good that someone is providing you dorks a forum for your little voices, I guess.



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