Reid: ‘I Don’t Agree’ With Lieberman, Iran Attack Will Only Further Destabilize Middle East
Reid: ‘I Don’t Agree’ With Lieberman, Iran Attack Will Only Further Destabilize Middle East
In an interview with ThinkProgress, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) today rejected Sen. Joe Lieberman’s (I-CT) threats of a war against Iran. On CBS’s Face the Nation, Lieberman claimed that “we have to be prepared to take aggressive military action ” against Iran.
“I know Joe feels strongly about that part of the world. I do too,” said Reid, rejecting Lieberman’s calls for ratcheting up tensions. “I believe our efforts should be diplomatic in nature,” Reid said, citing the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group and others to hold a regional conference to resolve security issues in the Middle East. Reid also noted that “we are so overextended” that the U.S. does not have the ground troops necessary for a war with Iran.
“The invasion of [Iran] is only going to destabilize that part of the world more,” Reid charged. “I know Joe means well, but I don’t agree with him.” Watch it:
Transcript:
REID: I believe our efforts should be diplomatic in nature. The Iraq Study Group said that. And General Petraeus has said the war in Iraq cannot be won militarily. It can only be won politically, economically, and diplomatically.
So I would think rather than talking about military action against Iran, we should do what the Iraq Study Group said. Have a regional conference where we sit down and the president himself is personally involved with the leaders of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and yes, Iran. That’s where our efforts have to be.
Right now, quite frankly, we’re so overextended — we don’t have the ability — we can send a few airplanes around the world, but as you know, our ground troops are overworked in Iraq.
So, I know Joe feels strongly about that part of the world. I do too. But the invasion of [Iran] is only going to destabilize that part of the world more. We don’t have the resources now to be involved in the situation in Lebanon, and we should be. We have, because of the Iraq invasion, totally ignored the Palestinian-Israeli situation. And with Iran, we don’t have — the Iranians are thumbing their noses at us. They know we’re overextended. And the president is very stubborn. He is not willing to sit down and meet with their leaders.
I know Joe means well, but I don’t agree with him.
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“Joe means well”, but he is a mole amoungst your party.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:07 pmPLEASE IGNORE THE TROLLS.
THEY WILL EVENTUALLY WITHER AWAY IF NOT FED.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:07 pmJoe doesn’t mean well. He’s a total disgrace, and the oinly things he feels strongly about are the things that bush tells him to feel strongly about.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:09 pmI know Joe means well
No, Harry, he doesn’t ‘mean well’…not to the nation he’s sworn to serve, anyway.
It’s inconceivable that you are incapable of recognizing this yourself. If you’re trying to be polite, the time for politeness has past.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:09 pmREID: I know Joe means well, but I don’t agree with him.
No Harry, he doesn’t.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:10 pmI think it is time for the Democratic Party to cut all ties with LIEberman. He does nothing for the party and I think that he is hurting the Democrats. I think they should refuse to caucus with him and tell him to get on the side of the fence he feels most comfortable on. The only reason why LIEberman has not joined the Republic party is because there he would be a little fish in a big pond and right now he thinks that he is a big fish in a little pond. I say we kick him out of the pond or if not that, drown him!
June 11th, 2007 at 3:11 pmMr Liebernam (I-Israel) has only the Israeli’s interests to represent.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:11 pmIf he could, he’d draft the entire population of Connecticut to go invade Iran.
Lie-berman does not mean well, Harry. He’s out to make his bona fides with the Reich-wing. He’s jumping ship. Hope he has a pleasant journey on the GOP ship of fools. He belongs there. CT will vote his sorry a** out next election.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:11 pmSen. Reid, Lieberman needs to be stripped of all committee assignments TODAY!! Let him flip over, who needs him.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:12 pmif harry thinks joe means well, he is as batshit crazy as joe. not that this is news
June 11th, 2007 at 3:13 pmTwo things bother me about Reid’s words.
1. “But the invasion of [Iran] is only going to destabilize that part of the world more.”
Why is he talking about it as though it’s already been decided? I would have preferred that he said, “AN invasion of Iran WOULD only destabilize that part of the world more.”
2. “We don’t have the resources now to be involved in the situation in Lebanon, and we should be.”
Why should we be involved in Lebanon? What’s that got to do with us?
June 11th, 2007 at 3:13 pmThe only reason why LIEberman has not joined the Republic party is because there he would be a little fish in a big pond and right now he thinks that he is a big fish in a little pond. I say we kick him out of the pond or if not that, drown him!
Comment by Katie
No, he’s working within the Democratic party as an Israeli infiltrator, in order to steer that party in the direction of being more pro-active regarding Israeli interests.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:14 pmTwo things bother me about Reid’s words.
1. “But the invasion of [Iran] is only going to destabilize that part of the world more.â€
Why is he talking about it as though it’s already been decided? I would have preferred that he said, “AN invasion of Iran WOULD only destabilize that part of the world more.â€
Comment by margaret
Because it HAS already been decided. I expect it to happen sometime next summer.
2. “We don’t have the resources now to be involved in the situation in Lebanon, and we should be.â€
Why should we be involved in Lebanon? What’s that got to do with us?
Comment by margaret
Because the US Government has been hijacked by extremist Israelis. Much of our foreign policy is for the benefit of Israel, and not the US.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:17 pmLet’s see.
We attack Iran.
Wars are never won in one day.
20% of the world’s oil goes through the Strait of Hormuz.
How many small boats would it take to mine a stretch of water 20 miles wide?
So for all of those countries that dislike the US to begin with, how many do you think would join our side if their oil was cutoff because Joe Lieberman and his ilk are total morons?
June 11th, 2007 at 3:18 pmthere’s one important question missing.
Why does it matter what weapons other countries have - if they don’t use them to attack us?
The US government has spent far too many decades dictating policy to other countries…the time for this madness to end is now.
Some follow up reading:
“Speaking of Iran”
June 11th, 2007 at 3:18 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/speaking_of_iran
Why oh why do the Dems think they need to sugar-coat their comments. Crazy Joe is an idiot to make such statements. The only reason the Dems “seem” weak on foreign strategy is because the other side is so off the wall. A normal person seems boring and weak placed next to a foaming neanderthal calling for blood on every issue. Call it like it is “Joe is insane to think and say those things.”
June 11th, 2007 at 3:19 pmREID: I know Joe means well, but I don’t agree with him.
No Harry, he doesn’t.
Comment by Zooey
OMG, More proof Reid is a clueless twit.
Can the Dems force re-election of a minority leader?
Replace Nancy “can’t find a table” Pelosi too.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:19 pm“Why is he talking about it as though it’s already been decided?”
June 11th, 2007 at 3:20 pmhttp://www.commondreams.org/views05/0620-31.htm
http://www.democracynow.org/ article.pl?sid=06/ 10/ 16/ 144204
http://blogs.abcnews.com/ theblotter/ 2007/ 05/ bush_authorizes.html
http://rawstory.com/ news/ 2007/ Neoconservative_hopes_prays_Bush_will_bomb_0530.html
http://rawstory.com/ news/ 2007/ CIA_running_black_propaganda_operation_against_0604.html
http://www.rawstory.com/ news/ 2006/ Pentagon_confirms_Iranian_directorate_as_intelligence_0615.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiZrWIVR69s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1sK-2LwMPU
everything katie sad @ 3:11 pm…
is LIEberman a mole or what? …
June 11th, 2007 at 3:21 pmLIEberman knows Israel wants Iran invaded so they can bomb the crap out of them.
Lebanon is just a diversion. Israel could stomp them in 48 hours.
But, by using Lebanon as a diversion, Israel will have the US do the dirty work while reaping the benefits.
Joe, does the Israeli Secret Service pay better than the US Congress?
June 11th, 2007 at 3:23 pmOkay, people, let up on Harry a little bit. I hope he KNOWS that Joe doesn’t “mean well”, but he’s got to work with him in the Senate.
I agree, though, that it’s time for the Democratic Caucus to cut its ties with Lieberman (I). The power he wields over timid Democrats only flows from the pivotal position he’s carved out for himself. He’s proven to be a self-serving as we feared.
You know what, Joe, there’s no “I” in “Independent”… oh wait, there is, isn’t there… I guess Lieberman finally chose the perfect designation for himself.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:23 pmI know Joe means well, in fact, he’s stopping by the house over the weekend for a bbq and we’ll no doubt discuss this over a couple cold ones. - Harry Reid
June 11th, 2007 at 3:25 pmOh, Harry. Don’t pick too clear of a position because it will make it harder to back track later.
And Harry, explain to me again how an over-funded and no-strings emergency supplemental funding bill was actually a victory for the end the war now movement. I won’t buy any of your horsesh*t of course but it is oddly amusing to me to see you twist yourself into a pretzel trying to defend your logic.
Looking to Harry Reid for honest and ethical leadership is like expecting that an anchor would act as a suitable life preserver.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:27 pmWill 10 GOP Senators Flip-Flop?
June 11th, 2007 at 3:27 pmChoose whatever metaphor you like, but the democrat party is the Stan Laurel to the republican party’s Oliver Hardy. They are playing their part in this game we call congress well. Has any of them even mentioned anything about the permanent presence in Iraq that BushCo is setting up? I haven’t heard diddly.
In 2004, America voted (at the polling station and opinion polls) to create a majority of democrats in congress to stop the war in Iraq. Instead we get this.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:28 pmNo entangling alliances.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:28 pmtesting
June 11th, 2007 at 3:32 pmHarry To Earth:
Time to stop sugar coating Lieberman’s insane ambitions to bomb the entire Middle East for the greater glory of Israel.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:33 pm“I know Joe means well”…yeah, to the hawkish Israeli crowd…He can’t possibly mean the American people
June 11th, 2007 at 3:34 pmI say send Lie berman to flight school and train him for a solo mission…that ought to shut Schlepprock up
June 11th, 2007 at 3:38 pmWhy are people so hungry for war?? Aren’t two botched wars enough??? Not to mention the budget which is already hemoraging way beyond the point of combustion.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:40 pmLebanon is just a diversion. Israel could stomp them in 48 hours.
Comment by Zimzone
You sure about that?
Israel got the crap beaten out of it, a little while ago, by Hezbollah fighters equipped with state of the art Russian equipment.
I think the myth of Israeli military superiority, is nothing but BS.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:42 pmMaybe Joe understands that attacking Iran will further destabilize the region. Maybe Joe and Boy George are both looking to kickstart Armageddon and bring Jebus back.
It’s more likely though that Joe is pushing for American blood and fortune being expended against Israel’s enemies.
And who TF knows what is going through George’s mind. He has some wires touching, the insulation worn from so much snow.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:44 pmHey Harry
We know you don’t agree, the same way you told us there was no war with Iran clause in the war funding bill.
You caved in and gave shrub everything he wanted in the war bill. You removed the no war with Iran clause, and then removed the troop withdrawal from Vietraq.
Why should we believe you now?
June 11th, 2007 at 3:44 pmHarry has taken his anti-loon pills today. Good for him.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:46 pmnull
You have totally missed the true centre of the problem. Israel, in the end is a smoke screen, if America didn’t pay to keep Israel strong you can bet the Arabs would - it keeps their people reasonably focussed on something other then the fact that their leaders are a corrupt bunch of thugs.
No, the real centre of the problem is somewhere far closer to the action.
Think about it, you have a Saudi Arabian nationalist, who attacks America for putting bases on Saudi Arabian soil, and now you are talking about attacking another one of Saudi Arabia’s enemies. You do the math.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:47 pmYes, Harry.
The real question is, why, oh why, did you cave to the Boy Emperor on setting a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq? Answer me that first, then I might listen to you about Iran.
At this point, Harry, you have no credibility.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:47 pmYeah, let’s just let IRAN keep on killing our men and women in uniform. Sounds good…..
June 11th, 2007 at 3:48 pmHaving trouble with your servers TP?
June 11th, 2007 at 3:52 pm[Refresh]
June 11th, 2007 at 3:53 pm“Yeah, let’s just let IRAN keep on killing our men and women in uniform. Sounds good…..
Comment by Adam — June 11, 2007 @ 3:48 pm”
As a Veteran, I have YET to see any country kill our soldiers on American soil (no I am not talking about an Embasy, real American soil not some pretend American soil)…. Could that be because we have our noses in other peoples business over seas that they feel the need to defend their LAND????
So Adam, what would you do if China took over Oklahoma for payment due to them for the enormous loan they have given us??? Would you just stand by and allow them to take the state because it is what they feel is right?????
Why don’t you try and think for a change rather than simply swallowing what the MSM or Bush tells you????
June 11th, 2007 at 3:56 pmSpineless Harry has become more irrelevant than Bush.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:58 pmoff topic I know, but does anyone know when the no-co vote is a go fo?
June 11th, 2007 at 4:02 pmI do not trust Lieberman and now I don’t trust Reid, either. They both have got to go because they do not put this country first. Shame on both of them!
June 11th, 2007 at 4:04 pmRob Shneider is….a stapler
June 11th, 2007 at 4:04 pmsally-explain your position with Reid, please. We all know what LIEberman supports…
June 11th, 2007 at 4:05 pmJCGOD OF WAR-51-49 IN THE SENATE WITH (at least)48 VOTING LOCKSTEP WITH THE PREZ…HMMM i WONDER WHY THEY COULDN’T GET THAT WITHDRAWL BILL PASSED…
(oops, sorry about the caps…)
June 11th, 2007 at 4:07 pm[Refresh again]
June 11th, 2007 at 4:10 pm“Comment by whiteyfresh — June 11, 2007 @ 4:07 pm”
So did Spector vote for the NC like he said he would?
June 11th, 2007 at 4:11 pmJoe Liberman should just convert to Christianity so he could call himself what he is: Neocon-Republican. Just knowing he caucases with the Democrats makes me feel even worse about my party! I need a shower…
June 11th, 2007 at 4:13 pmHarry Reid is a relatively weak majority leader.
June 11th, 2007 at 4:15 pmHRUMPF..
June 11th, 2007 at 4:16 pm‘Tis a shame that we do not have a more forecful, credible house majority leader. When Harry gets on, I cringe - he simply doesn’t have the stature (no pun intended) to handle the job.
June 11th, 2007 at 4:18 pm“Harry Reid is a relatively weak majority leader”
Indeed. He’s only slightly less weak at being a human being.
June 11th, 2007 at 4:20 pmRemoveBush:that’s what I’m trying to find out!!
:D
June 11th, 2007 at 4:20 pmAnd the president is very stubborn. He is not willing to sit down and meet with their leaders.
Cracked it in a nutshell Harry - thats what happens when you ask a immature cowboy to be president
Shoot then ask questions - Bushes vain whacko mentality
June 11th, 2007 at 4:20 pmThere hasn’t been a post since 3:00pm. What’s up? Don’t you know I need my fix?
June 11th, 2007 at 4:21 pm[Refreshing……….]
June 11th, 2007 at 4:21 pmThere really isn’t a distinction anymore between neo-con style christianity, and militarist Lieberman-style Judaism.
Niether adhere to the rudimentary basics of their respective religions.
Their ideology has become all about world dominance of resources and materials, exploitation of disadvantaged cultures for their cheap labor, intolerance of all other religions, and total disregard for basic human dignity.
June 11th, 2007 at 4:23 pmI don’t know what happened to my post about Lieberman - maybe the TP gremlins took it away?
In any case, what I repeatedly see with Lieberman is his association with the Holocaust (Jewish) “painbody” - which is not unlike the other painbodies from which people operate - to garner sympathy, manipulate others, and simply feel obligated to act from the collective pain and angst of an entire group of people who have been discriminated against, persecuted, etc., etc….such as women, people of color, illegal immigrants, etc.
Unfortunately, when one habitually operates from a particular collective “painbody”, it’s obvious to others and they lose their voice and credibility.
Clearly, Joe’s reaction is always an “over-reaction” where Arabs are concerned due to his Jewish background. It’s too bad but when this occurs, what he says has absolutely no value because people recognize his comment for what it is - the view of a cumulative group of individuals who have anger and retribution against any group which is not their own.
June 11th, 2007 at 4:24 pmHarry Reid is a despicable person and a pathetic excuse for a Senator.
June 11th, 2007 at 4:25 pmTwo of my posts now have gone out the window….hardly makes it worth attempting to participate here - what gives?
June 11th, 2007 at 4:25 pmi repeat…HRUMPF.
June 11th, 2007 at 4:26 pmHarry Reid is trying his best; unfortunately, his best is simply not good enough to get respect and be very useful. Just watched Dianne Feinstein on the Gonzo spectacle - now that’s one organized, articulate woman - a very sharp contrast to little ole’ Harry.
June 11th, 2007 at 4:28 pmI’d like to see Harry Reid step down because he is not very effective and allow someone with a little more chutzpah and gusto step into the post.
June 11th, 2007 at 4:28 pm[Revolting….]
June 11th, 2007 at 4:30 pm“i repeat…HRUMPF.
Comment by whiteyfresh — June 11, 2007 @ 4:26 pm”
OK….
I think I figured out part of it, but what does it mean????
Harry Reid ????
June 11th, 2007 at 4:33 pmannoying damn refresh. Fix it TP!
June 11th, 2007 at 4:34 pmRefreshment
June 11th, 2007 at 4:34 pmComment by TrollINGMOTOR T-2 [Stalking………….]
June 11th, 2007 at 4:35 pmummmm…double HRUMPF?
June 11th, 2007 at 4:41 pmHarry Reid sucks eggs.
June 11th, 2007 at 4:42 pmRemoveBush: ummm….
(think quick whitey…)
Harry Reid Understands My Personal Feelings?
or
Harry Reid’s Underwear Mimics Puppy Farts…
either will do… ;D
June 11th, 2007 at 4:45 pmSo, Lieberman thinks that the Aggressive Military Action Fairy will fix everything?
Nice.
June 11th, 2007 at 4:46 pm.
Comment by whiteyfresh — June 11, 2007 @ 4:45 pm
OK….
I guess I was expecting more out of that…..
June 11th, 2007 at 4:47 pmIs this microphone on?
June 11th, 2007 at 4:49 pmIs there a way to actually see comments unless you post a comment?
June 11th, 2007 at 4:50 pmI object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.
~Mahatma Gandhi
June 11th, 2007 at 4:51 pmI think were winning with the trolls their name changing now to get attention - he
June 11th, 2007 at 4:52 pmderp..come on TP…
June 11th, 2007 at 4:53 pmyeah…sorry…
how about Harry Reid Understands My Personal FREEDOMS?
HRUMPF was really just frustration at TP for loading so slowly…
June 11th, 2007 at 4:55 pm[Stalking………….]
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
So much joy,
June 11th, 2007 at 4:55 pmSo much fun,
To so easily annoy,
C’TROLLER V-1!
derpa?
June 11th, 2007 at 5:04 pmGood grief. These neocons are ALL batsh*t crazy! Bush, Cheney, Condi, Lieberman - the whole freaking bunch.
Let’s round ‘em up and drop ‘em off in the middle of downtown Baghdad. That’d fix the problem.
In fact, let’s make it a world-wide Pay-Per-View event!! I’ll bet we could raise enough $$ to put a considerable dent in the deficit.
June 11th, 2007 at 5:04 pmGive ‘em hell Harry!
June 11th, 2007 at 5:06 pmoy…
June 11th, 2007 at 5:08 pmLiberty and democracy become unholy when their hands are dyed red with innocent blood.
~Mahatma Gandhi
June 11th, 2007 at 5:11 pmHarry Reid is kind of wussy.
We need somebody with balls in that job.
As for Loserman, he’s an AIPAC whore.
When the Israelis unzip their pants, Loserman gets on his knees.
June 11th, 2007 at 5:13 pmIt shouldn’t be surprising a member of the pro-war necon group, ClearANDPresent Danger, Likudnik leiberman, would advocate murdering Iranians and he should just come out of the closet, be honest and admit he supports Israel first, and it’s goals and America second, but that will never happen .
June 11th, 2007 at 5:14 pmIf you guys do indeed get Lieberman to leave your side, then you will get your wish of a new majority leader. Just not who you all would be happy with.
June 11th, 2007 at 5:16 pmReid: “I’m a little bitch, but there ain’t shit I can do about shit.”
June 11th, 2007 at 5:17 pmI know some folks who really appreciate what Lieberman has to say.
June 11th, 2007 at 5:17 pmThey are the Mullahs who run Iran, and belicose rhetoric from America is just what they need to SCARE their citizens into giving up their freedom. Remind you of anything???
You can not use deplomacy with Lying Scum.
June 11th, 2007 at 5:20 pmHarry Reid? Mr. 19% approval? LMAO.
Dennis Miller on Harry Reid.
June 11th, 2007 at 5:27 pmHarry Reid is kind of wussy.
We need somebody with balls in that job.
Comment by Tom3 — June 11, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
Agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Harry is wuss, and he comes off sounding like an insecure, push-over, little child, begging his mom for a toy action figure.
June 11th, 2007 at 5:28 pmHarry Reid? Mr. 19% approval? LMAO.
Dennis Miller on Harry Reid.
Comment by muckdog — June 11, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
Miller was funny, but why’d he have talk shit about Demosthenes?
Not Cool.
June 11th, 2007 at 5:32 pmpinche refresh
June 11th, 2007 at 5:34 pmCan we just call Lieberman what he is. The Independent senator of Israel.
June 11th, 2007 at 5:42 pm“Mr Liebernam (I-Israel)…” Comment by RUCerious — June 11, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
Perfect, RUCerious! Wayne and I were planning to use much the same designation, but you beat us to it!
June 11th, 2007 at 5:54 pmBUT HARRY, THE SOONER WE ATTACK IRAN, THE SOONER JESUS COMES BACK!
YOU’RE A CHRISTIAN RIGHT? WELL, A MORMON ANYWAYS. DON’T YOU WANT JESUS TO COME BACK?
June 11th, 2007 at 5:56 pmHarry Reid is a Mormon Republican pretending to be a Democrat.
Why is he Senate Majority leader? This is outrageous!
HARRY REID: STOP HURTING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND RESIGN ALREADY!
June 11th, 2007 at 5:57 pmjoe douchebag lieberman is a vile mass-murdering warmongering thug. an evil whore who will joyfully bend over and be sodomized by the likes of dick cheney, the only henchman on the planet who agrees with him.
a pathetic scumbag killer who belongs in stalag 17. joe lieberman should be shot for crimes against the state, without benefit of a last cigarette or pill from the drug dealers at pfizer, who are also agregious criminals.
June 11th, 2007 at 5:59 pmIf the Commander in Chief is juggling two wars, who can impeachment him? He would be too busy fighting wars.
The saber rattling at Iran comes at a time when America and it Allies are having one heck of a time already with a war that could be described as the dumbest war America (the Bush team) ever engaged in.
The solution to iran sounds about as rational as the solution to the high price of gasoline - give each voting American $100.00 dollars or the solution to the copyright problem - blow up the computers of those who violate copyrights.
“Yellow caking” Iran would probably show the European Union that it had better get itself in position to become the world’s leader as the Bush team and associates are fast making sure that America no longer fits that description.
June 11th, 2007 at 6:01 pmThankfully Harry, nobody cares!
June 11th, 2007 at 6:05 pmHarry Reid? Mr. 19% approval? LMAO.
Dennis Miller on Harry Reid.
Comment by muckdog
That’s pretty interesting. The only person with a lower approval rating would be … “can’t keep a broadcast job” Dennis Miller. So now his career has withered down to commenting on Fox News. That would be low enough but since 99% of Fox viewers won’t understand a word he’s saying he probably won’t last long there either. Too bad Dennis, nice way to destroy a successful career in show business.
June 11th, 2007 at 6:07 pmI object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.
~Mahatma Gandhi
Tell that to Saddam Hussein!
June 11th, 2007 at 6:08 pmsomeone said:
>Mr Liebernam (I-Israel)
that was racist, antisemitic, and in poor taste. but FUNNY!!! hahaha
June 11th, 2007 at 6:09 pmnull
You have totally missed the true centre of the problem. Israel, in the end is a smoke screen, if America didn’t pay to keep Israel strong you can bet the Arabs would - it keeps their people reasonably focussed on something other then the fact that their leaders are a corrupt bunch of thugs.
Comment by Bruce Gorton — June 11, 2007 @ 3:47 pm
I agree with this point, if the Israelis and Palestinians patched their problems up, that won’t lessen the nasty brutes running other autocracies in the Middle East, especially Syria, Iran, Egypt and Saudi Arabia
But, let’s clear up one thing, Lieberman does NOT support the state of Israel as a whole, he only supports their lunatic neocons, the Likudniks, the Bib Nethanyahu’s
Lieberman knows that Israel-in addition to all those US troops bogged down in Iraq-will bear the immediate retaliation from Iran, and it could expect Hezbollah to rain down even more missiles on Israel than it ever has before
There is absolutely NO positive upside for the US OR Israel in attacking Iran, and it’s only the neocons in each country who are backing such a supremely stupid idea
And to shoot down one uninformed bit of blather
#90
If you guys do indeed get Lieberman to leave your side, then you will get your wish of a new majority leader. Just not who you all would be happy with.
Comment by Wyman Pendleton — June 11, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
Lieberman can do all the flipping he wants, but until the next Congress is sworn in on January 2009, he can’t flip the Senate to GOP control if he were to join the GOP before then, as it stays in the Dems control until Inauguration Day, 2009
Unfortunately, Reid can’t strip Lieberman of his Committee assignments during this time either
Clearly, Lieberman is a reality-denying twit who manages to outdo his own stupidity and overly optimistic naivete by an order of magnitude with each successively idiotic statement about all the progress he sees in Iraq
It’s just got to be driving Lieberman crazy that his insipid lackey status for The Glory Of All Things W is falling on deaf ears for the overwhelming majority of the US public, and Lieberman knows his historical legacy will be as a permanently & publicly discredited pathetic cheerleader for the deluded, bloodthirsty, lunatic, screeching blowhards and ChickenHawks AKA Neocons
Let that permanent disgrace and public mockery eat at the shriveled husk Lieberman would deign to call his soul, a cowardly scumbag like Lieberman deserves nothing less than never-ending self-torment
June 11th, 2007 at 6:13 pmTell that to Saddam Hussein!
Comment by m12 — June 11, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
M12….Saddam Hussein is DEAD!! Sure solved our problems in Iraq didn’t it???
June 11th, 2007 at 6:14 pmDennis Miller rips Harry Reid a new a$$hole:
http://hotair.com/ archives/ 2007/ 06/ 10/ video-dennis-miller-goes-nuclear-on-harry-reid/
Good stuff.
June 11th, 2007 at 6:22 pm[Refresh.]
June 11th, 2007 at 6:26 pmJoe LIEverminand HIS family…
…should become…
…collateral damage…
June 11th, 2007 at 6:47 pmJoe Lieberman does not mean well. He means war.
Reid, get some BACKBONE. No, the United States should NOT go around the world (including the Islamic world) starting wars. Period. End of discussion.
June 11th, 2007 at 7:03 pmIran supports terrorism; they have been a cancerous growth since the 70’s. Strike them now before their nuclear program is functional and send them back to the stone age. OR just let Isreal nuke them back in to the stone age and sit back and watch; that’s a great option too.
Frag the weak and hurl the dead…
June 11th, 2007 at 7:15 pmLIEvermin…
…should get to experience…
…what he wants for the Iranians…
June 11th, 2007 at 7:16 pmREFRESHERMENT
June 11th, 2007 at 7:19 pmREFRESH
June 11th, 2007 at 7:26 pmOur government needs to change, not continue on with the same ideological path. According to the Borgen Project, we have already spent $340 billion on the Iraq war. Endorsing other campaigns as fruitless as the Iraq war is a mistake.
To really get at the root of national security, global poverty needs to be addressed. The problem isn’t terrorism, it’s the extreme poverty that people live in that fosters the ideology. Coupled with our foreign policy, no good can come out of it all. If our government really wanted to halt terror, war and genocide, it would spend money on helping lesser-developed nations grow economically. Supporting the Millennium Development Goals to end global poverty would be more beneficial than starting wars all over the Middle East and creating more anti-Western sentiment.
June 11th, 2007 at 7:26 pmI can see the party of ‘tolerance’ sure has some intolerance for Joe Lieberman, and plenty of tolerance for the corrupt Harry Reid. It is just as bad as the loons on the right supporting Alberto Gonzales. Typical BS from both sides.
June 11th, 2007 at 7:40 pmLieberman is an Israelis agent biding for Israel. This cabal thinks that we can be fooled again. Enough is enough. Our wealth is hard earned and our sharp minds guide our might. We are not a slave nation.
June 11th, 2007 at 7:54 pmFar from destabilizing the middle east, it would destabilize the WORLD.
June 11th, 2007 at 8:45 pmAttacking Iran is like a man with a pit bull chewing on his leg charging into a kennel of angry rottweilers. Harry, you can say nice things about Joe if you like, whatever. I understand the need for Senatorial courtesy, but please don’t let Bush start the bombing of Iran. It would be a disaster of the first order. We are counting on you to prevent this disaster.
June 11th, 2007 at 9:03 pmJoe does not mean well, you asshole! It is high time that Joe be stripped of his seniority and be sent packing to the Republicans.
Holy Joe is insane and certainly does not belong with the Democratic party.
June 11th, 2007 at 9:26 pmamazing how nut-job LIEberman gets to spew on the mainstream Face The Nation and the Senate Majority leader gets to respond on a blog with no one listening ‘cept us lefty progressives. No disrespect to TP - a greatly superior brand of journalism to CBS, but the reach and audience just isn’t comparable. The US is do F’ked up.
June 11th, 2007 at 10:12 pm.
uh oh
June 11th, 2007 at 10:21 pmIn case you haven’t noticed Harry the Middle East is already destabilized. Iran is funding ,supplying and training Islamic Fascists in Gaza, Iraq ,Syria and Lebanon to name a few. The president of Iran has declared he wants to wipe out Israel, the U.S and build nuclear capability; all the while the Europeans have been (negotiating?) for the last four years. Yes there is a problem and it’s you Mr. Senator from Nevada and the rest of you liberal naïve people who refuse to grasp the nature of the conflict we are engaged in.
June 11th, 2007 at 11:22 pmIt seems to me that there hasn’t been this much collective blindness since 1938 when Neville Chamberlain was appeasing Hitler. Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.
Reid needs to grow some balls and tell LIEberman to go screw himself.
June 11th, 2007 at 11:23 pmI think war with Iran is a win win situation.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:20 amThe Liberals get all the troops out of Iraq, and the conservatives get a new war (but too early for Christmas)
Isn’t it yet time for Amereicans to wake up and see who is sucking our blood?
June 12th, 2007 at 12:46 amWhy don’t the stinking Democrats strip the treacherous Lieberman of all his seniority. There is absolutely no sense in having such aan antiAmerican thief and murderer in a posion of power in our nation.
His record speaks plainly enough. He has supported
Israel, Haliburton, Israel, Enron, Israel, war, Israel, and more Israel.
Doesn’t the use of political rhetoric such as that used by Sen. Lieberman make sense? If Iran is training troops and supplying weaponary doesn’t isn’t it in our best interest to “rattle our sabres” and challenge them? Altough some might argue that threats especially empty ones, won’t work often they are useful vehicles with which to convey resolve. I can’t believe that Sen. Reid’s continual Eeyoreish pronouncements and the anti-Semitic rhetoric being thrown at Sen. Lieberman are productive.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:07 amif joe lieberman wants to attack iran, i fully support him. give him a gun, no body armor and send him on his merry way. alone
June 12th, 2007 at 6:33 amLet Israel attack Iran! Let Jewish mothers and fathers bury their sons. Let their military feel what it’s like to be deployed for three and four years at a time while being picked off by sniper fire.
June 12th, 2007 at 7:19 am129 said,
“Doesn’t the use of political rhetoric such as that used by Sen. Lieberman make sense”?
The answer is “NO”. America and the UN have been telling the smaller, weaker countries - not to even attempt to develop nuclear weapons. So, now they are “sitting ducks” for those who would attack them. And here is someone advocating rhetorical violence. That makes no sense.
Prior to the Bush team, smaller nations had the hope that they would not be attacked by larger nations. And smaller nations had hope that the U.N. would be a deterent against the designs of hostile actions from other nations.
And that’s the way it worked before this Bush team.
Who is going to protect those smaller nations from the Bush team? The United Nations? It is the duty of the chief’s of nations to protect their nations. Delegating that task to the United Nations no longer seems viable.
Back in the gunpowder age, saber rattling could not do the “final damage”. But today’s nuclear products can. And to “play” around with “bad language” in a supposedly diplomatic world just shows how badly the Bush team’s diplomacy and knowledge base are.
And America. Never been in a war that seriously damaged America. And some, perhaps, still believe their daily routines would not change by much. Just perhaps, a longer wait in service stations gas lines. Otherwise the impact on the daily lives of Americans would be acceptable.
That will likely not be the case. It is mindboggling to think that the world is wrong while the Bush team is right.
The Bush team is different.
The Enola Gay proved that today’s wars shall not be like yester-year’s wars. And the accident in Russia added to the world’s knowledge about the power of the nuclear.
It now appears that some American’s want to risk the full “dog and pony” nuclear show. After that, for those who survive, you may then have believers until they too die because of radioactive climate change.
June 12th, 2007 at 9:26 amJoe has kids old enough to go to war however you will notice that this closet Republican is just like the other rocking chair Republicans. He loves war but he will not send his children to fight. With Joe being reelected to the Senate shows us that the Eastern establishment is not as intelligent as people thought. The reelection of Joe has proven that there are as many idiots in the East as there are in the South. If you think I am wrong then prove it. I am still waiting.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:46 amlklklklkl
June 12th, 2007 at 1:43 pmhuh… … remember when i asked this:
is LIEberman a mole or what? …
Comment by katy — June 11, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
i just found this at C&L:
Is Holy Joe Coordinating With The White House?
June 12th, 2007 at 2:36 pmBy: Logan Murphy @ 10:02 AM - PDT
Ned Lamont thinks it’s a real possibility and he’s not the only one. Monday morning on “The Young Turksâ€, Cenk Uygur spoke with Lamont about Joe Lieberman and his appearance on “Face The Nation†last Sunday in which he called for military action against Iran.
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http://www.crooksandliars.com/ 2007/ 06/ 12/ is-holy-joe-coordinating-with-the-white-house/
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