Former Surgeon General has doubts about Holsinger.
By on Jun 12th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
Former Surgeon General has doubts about Holsinger.
Frank Lockwood of Bible Belt Blogger spoke with Dr. Jocelyn Elders, President Clinton’s first Surgeon General, who said that she is not sure that James Holsinger “is the person that we should be confirming” as the next Surgeon General:
LOCKWOOD — Do you think you’d vote to confirm him?
ELDERS — I think there’s some things he’s said that are out there. It would be very difficult for me to feel that this is the person that we should be confirming in this day and time with all the problem we have, related to sexual heath and all the problems we’re getting into. I think as the nation’s chief health educator we need to know what he would do to help America evolve into a sexually healthy nation. We’re a sexually unhealthy nation.
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Bring back Joycelyn Elders!!
June 12th, 2007 at 1:48 pmLiberal discourse is personal attacks not real debate,always has been here at TP. Sorry to break the hard hitting news analysis and research to you. Now entertainment is TPs (24/7Paris Hilton) speciality.
Look at the headlines of each story dude. Headlines are always one sided/bias to get you in and read the tabloid trash that the TP spinmeisters call “hard hitting news”. Heh :^(
TP editors/censors/spinners are college (highly indoctrinated) educated too.
June 12th, 2007 at 1:51 pmI can’t wait for President Clinton’s comment!
June 12th, 2007 at 1:52 pmAt least he didn’t advocate teaching kids to masturbate in school.
June 12th, 2007 at 1:55 pmFormer Surgeon General has doubts about Holsinger
Yeah I had doubts about the guy who replaced me at Wetzels Pretzel’s in the mall too. The first one wasn’t bad because he kept them down as long as they should be, but the one after him was pretty bad. The amount of salt on them got to be pretty bad. I would go as far as to say it was a menace to society and a threat to public health.
June 12th, 2007 at 1:57 pmAt least he didn’t advocate teaching kids to masturbate in school.
Comment by Fox News devotee — June 12, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
Which part don’t you like… the teaching kids part or the masturbating in school part?
June 12th, 2007 at 1:59 pm“…as the nation’s chief health educator we need to know what he would do to help America evolve into a sexually healthy nation.
We’re a sexually unhealthy nation.”
Firstly this would imply acceptance of the concept of the human species’ ability to evolve, ie: evolution.
Which, according to a recent poll, 68% of Republicans, and 41% of democrats, do not accept.
Secondly, it would require corporate America to cease using its top marketing ploy, which is sex.
June 12th, 2007 at 1:59 pmNot going to happen.
She said “sex” and “evolve” in the same statement. Clearly she’s a minion of Satan.
June 12th, 2007 at 1:59 pmAt least he didn’t advocate teaching kids to masturbate in school.
Comment by Fox News devotee
What, did he tell them to wait till they got home?
June 12th, 2007 at 2:01 pmHolsinger thinks Cheneys daughter is sexually unhealthy?
He thinks that our Veeps daughter is sexually unhealthy?
We can’t have a hater of our Veeps daughter in this position!!!
Right CT? Right Mr. President? RIght Flaco?
June 12th, 2007 at 2:04 pmWell if Elders is against him he should make the greatest Surgeon General in American history.
June 12th, 2007 at 2:04 pmWell if Elders is against him he should make the greatest Surgeon General in American history.
Comment by Unvarnished Truth
I think you need to whip out your paint brush and a can of varnish and paint yourself, cause thats the only way your post makes any sense.
Varnished BS.
June 12th, 2007 at 2:11 pmrefresh
June 12th, 2007 at 2:11 pmThis thread even for TP is pretty lame. So instead lets remember a great anniversary on this day 20 years ago.
Twenty years ago today Ronald Reagan stood in front of the Berlin Wall at the Brandenburg Gate and gave the speech heard ’round the world. Our friend Peter Robinson was the man who wrote the speech. He tells the story behind the speech in his terrific book How Ronald Reagan Changed My Life. Peter has kindly condensed his account for Power Line readers today:
In April 1987, when I was assigned to write the Brandenburg Gate address, I spent a day in Berlin with the White House advance team, the logistical experts, Secret Service agents, and press officials who went to the site of every presidential visit to make arrangements. In the evening, I broke away from the advance team to join a dozen Berliners for dinner. Our hosts were Dieter and Ingeborg Elz, who, after Dieter completed his career at the World Bank in Washington, had retired to Berlin. Although we had never met, we had friends in common, and the Elzes had offered to put on this dinner party to give me a feel for their city. They had invited Berliners of different walks of life and political outlooks—businessmen, academics, students, homemakers.
We chatted for awhile. Then I explained that, earlier in the day, the ranking American diplomat in West Berlin had told me that over the years Berliners had made a kind of accommodation with the wall. “Is it true?†I asked. “Have you gotten used to it?â€
The Elzes and their guests glanced at each other uneasily. Then one man raised an arm and pointed. “My sister lives twenty miles in that direction,†he said. “I haven’t seen her in more than two decades. Do you think I can get used to that?†Another man spoke. As he walked to work each morning, he explained, a soldier in a guard tower peered down at him through binoculars. “That soldier and I speak the same language. We share the same history. But one of us is a zookeeper and the other is an animal, and I am never certain which is which.â€
Our hostess broke in. A gracious woman, Ingeborg Elz had suddenly grown angry. Her face was red. She made a fist with one hand and pounded it into the palm of the other. “If this man Gorbachev is serious with his talk of glasnost and perestroika,†she said, “he can prove it. He can get rid of this wall.â€
* * * * *
Back at the White House I adapted her comment, making “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!†the central line in my draft. On Friday, May 15, the speeches for the President’s trip—he would be traveling to Rome and Venice before reaching Berlin—were forwarded to the President, and on Monday, May 18, the speechwriters joined him in the Oval Office. My speech was the last we discussed. “Mr. President,†I said, “I learned on the advance trip that this speech will be heard not only in West Berlin but throughout East Germany. Is there anything you’d like to say to people on the other side of the Berlin Wall?â€
The President cocked his head and thought. “Well,†he replied, “there’s that passage about tearing down the wall. That wall has to come down. That’s what I’d like to say to them.â€
* * * * *
With three weeks to go before it was delivered, the speech was circulated to the State Department and the National Security Council. Both attempted to suppress it. The draft was naïve. It would raise false hopes. It was clumsy. It was needlessly provocative. State and the NSC submitted their own alternate drafts—my journal records that there were no fewer than seven. In each, the call to tear down the wall was missing.
When in early June the President and his party reached Italy (I remained in Washington), Ken Duberstein, the deputy chief of staff, sat the President down in the garden of the palazzo in which he was staying, then briefed him on the objections to my draft. Reagan asked Duberstein’s advice. Duberstein replied that he thought the line about tearing down the wall sounded good. “But I told him, ‘You’re President, so you get to decide.’ And then,†Duberstein recalls, “he got that wonderful, knowing smile on his face, and he said, ‘Let’s leave it in.’â€
The day the President arrived in Berlin, State and NSC submitted yet another alternate draft. Yet in the limousine on the way to the Berlin Wall, the President told Duberstein he was determined to deliver the controversial line. Reagan smiled. “The boys at State are going to kill me,†he said, “but it’s the right thing to do.â€
The Bible instructs us that a word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver. Something of the meaning of that simile is brought home to us in Reagan’s great speech of June 12, 1987.
June 12th, 2007 at 2:14 pmComment by Stella Octangula
For the sake of Mary Cheney, Dr. Holsinger would leave his junk science “to the states.”
June 12th, 2007 at 2:14 pmSecondly, it would require corporate America to cease using its top marketing ploy, which is sex.
Not going to happen.
Comment by heyzeus
The Trolls are simply incapable of analyzing capitalism and its inherent liberalism.
June 12th, 2007 at 2:14 pmI’m pretty sure Elders didn’t advocate that kids should masterbate in school. :D
The kids should wait until they’re at home behind a locked bedroom door — like everyone else.
June 12th, 2007 at 2:15 pmComment by Patrick1 — June 12, 2007 @ 2:14 pm
Plagarizing again, Patrick1, ya f*cking wanker.
June 12th, 2007 at 2:16 pmBring back Joycelyn Elders!!
This creep was an idiot!
June 12th, 2007 at 2:17 pmFor the sake of Mary Cheney, Dr. Holsinger would leave his junk science “to the states.â€
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
So you want someone who uses junk science as surgeon general?
(even though a doctors craft is science)
Pretty Liberal of you CT. Heh.
June 12th, 2007 at 2:18 pmStupid Repuke troll. It figures he likes Ronny Poopy Pants.
This IS an important story. Chimpy has nominated another incompetent whacko for an important government position.
I would rather have school kids jerking off in unison to the Pledge of Allegiance every morning in school, than have this jerkoff be the Surgeon General.
June 12th, 2007 at 2:18 pmYou know it’s an odd day when you agree with Patrick1 on something…
RR only did two good things in hi political life as far as I am concerned:
June 12th, 2007 at 2:23 pm1. The wall speech
2. Raising the tobacco taxes in California in the ’60s, thereby prompting both my parents to quit smoking.
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June 12th, 2007 at 2:24 pmComment by Stella Octangula
No, I don’t want him as SG. It was a spoof on Dick’s statement.
June 12th, 2007 at 2:25 pmThe Bible instructs us that a word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver. Something of the meaning of that simile is brought home to us in Reagan’s great speech of June 12, 1987.
Comment by Patrick1
Reagan was just another hollywood liberal. Plus he cut and ran from Beirut, surely a liberal sign. The cold war did not end because of high tech weaponry and money, it ended because Raygun entered into dialogue with Gorbachev. Get your facts right P1.
June 12th, 2007 at 2:25 pmNo, I don’t want him as SG. It was a spoof on Dick’s statement.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
If you insist.
June 12th, 2007 at 2:29 pmLet’s just call him Patrick-cut-and-paste.
June 12th, 2007 at 2:42 pm0909
June 12th, 2007 at 2:47 pmThis creep was an idiot!
Comment by Flaco
Yes. You are.
June 12th, 2007 at 2:56 pmAnd Joycelyn Elders should know!!
It’s scary how predictable this administration’s knack for picking the WRONG sort of person, no matter what the job.
June 12th, 2007 at 3:03 pml,l00
June 12th, 2007 at 3:37 pmChimpy’s attempts to destroy the government continue. He nominates candidates who are most likely to do the opposite of the mission that was intended to be done when each position was created.
Heckuva legacy, Chimpy.
June 12th, 2007 at 4:26 pmThe kids should wait until they’re at home behind a locked bedroom door — like everyone else.
Comment by Zooey
Enjoy that vibrator with magic fingers huh?
June 12th, 2007 at 4:31 pmTPs website admin guys are second rate.
June 12th, 2007 at 4:46 pmrefresh please:-]
ELDERS — I think there’s some things he’s said that are out there. It would be very difficult for me to feel that this is the person that we should be confirming in this day and time with all the problem we have, related to sexual heath and all the problems we’re getting into. I think as the nation’s chief health educator we need to know what he would do to help America evolve into a sexually healthy nation. We’re a sexually unhealthy nation.
I think as the nation’s chief health educator we need to know what he would do to help America evolve into a sexually healthy nation.ELDERS
How about pass out condoms to all HIV/AIDS infected with a “I’m Having Safe Sex” bumper sticker.
Oh we are doing that already sorry:’(
June 12th, 2007 at 5:08 pmrefresh
June 12th, 2007 at 6:42 pmWho needs facts when you can spin. It’s much easier. Why tax a little brain to actually think. All you need is Fox Noose to wrap thoughts around your neck.
We see how effective abstinance education is. Way to take a couple extra steps back to the Dark Ages. We’re already on our way. That and the Inquisition.
One more ineffective appointee. Priceless.
June 12th, 2007 at 7:22 pmDON’T EVER ASK ANY-BODY TO SOMETHING FOR (TO) YOU THAT YOUR NOT CAPABLE OF DOING FOR YOURSELF. Don’t give me know lines and keep your hands to yourself. //Come to school satisfied and rested. Gnot horny.// Time to study not Stud:ie. Same for you girls. sticky fingers. ever heard of the indian long-houses?? Be fruitful and multiply.. No Joke. Friction is worth more than a million sperm cells fighting to only find A 6′7″ giant you can’t leave.
June 13th, 2007 at 4:13 amJoycelyn’s intuition was from a Lady.. W/maybe been there. I’m my brother’s keeper. . You hold a child and love them and you’ll never call the KIDS again. they just might be A-KID. YOU Break it YOU PAY. But some Body (if not YOU) will LOVE_IT>> and LOVE IS THE GREATEST OF ALL THE–SEE.// DR. Everets NEVER SAID TAKE YOUR PANTS OFF and or WHIP-IT OUT STUPID JUVINILES; or abusers… if yopu can’t please yourself how can you expect someoneelse to satisfy(please)yourself. Please now Grow up Perverts. Go force YOURSELF ON SOMEONE ELSE. CAN’T IT BE DONE W/CLOTHES ON. WET SPOT AIN’T ABUSE AND IT CAN BE DONE ON THE FIELD W/ STARRY EYES AND A LIFE TIME OF LOVE.. Babe thats all natural.. untill YOU and HIM are sure the parts are going to work out. BABYS GROW UP and NEED LOVE NOT AGRESSION OR BLAME GAMES OR YOU FAIL.. T.E.C.