O’Reilly Defends His Lack Of Iraq Coverage: Explosions In Iraq ‘Don’t Mean Anything’
O’Reilly Defends His Lack Of Iraq Coverage: Explosions In Iraq ‘Don’t Mean Anything’
A recent study by the Project for Excellence in Journalism found that in the first three months of 2007, Fox News devoted considerably less coverage to the Iraq war than did CNN and MSNBC, but almost twice as much time to the Anna Nicole Smith story:
Today on his radio show, Fox News host Bill O’Reilly derided the group behind the report as the “Project for Excellence in Left-Wing Journalism,” but then said he wouldn’t dispute their findings. He defended his lack of Iraq war coverage, stating that the only reason CNN and MSNBC “do so much Iraq reporting is because they want to embarrass the Bush administration”:
Now the reason that CNN and MSNBC do so much Iraq reporting is because they want to embarrass the Bush administration. Both do. And all their reporting consists of is here’s another explosion. Bang. Here’s more people dead. Bang. […]
They’re not doing it to inform anybody about anything. The terrorists are going to set off a bomb every day because they know CNN and MSNBC are going to put it on the air. That’s a strategy for the other side. The terrorist side. So I’m taking an argument that CNN and MSNBC are actually helping the terrorists by reporting useless explosions.
Do you care if another bomb went off in Tikrit? Does it mean anything? No! It doesn’t mean anything.
CLICK HERE TO LISTENThe explosions in Iraq have killed over 3,500 U.S. troops since 2003. Journalists stationed in Iraq stress that coverage of the violence is necessary to ensure that the American public understands soldiers’ sacrifices:
CBS News Correspondent Lara Logan: When you see an American kid get shot and friends come to his aid and risk their lives, and see how they live day after day, you realize it is very hard for people far away to understand just how great are the sacrifices being made.
CNN International Correspondent Michael Ware: Clearly, it’s very hard to distill into one story the reality of life on the ground. Many of the soldiers I was with recently in Ramadiyah feel that people back home are turning off to an extent. They feel they’re fighting this war in a vacuum. That’s where you see the true strength of these men. They continue to do their jobs professionally and bravely.
O’Reilly constantly claims that he supports the troops. For O’Reilly, supporting the troops means ignoring their work and saying that the explosions killing them don’t “mean anything.”
Transcript:
O’REILLY: So let’s call it the Project for Excellence in Left-Wing Journalism, and then you label it correctly.
Alright, now they came up with a study of how Iraq is covered by the three cables. And Fox News covers it less than CNN and MSNBC. Okay, I’m not going to dispute that. I can’t talk for Fox News and what they do during the day. E.D. Hill might be able to, but I can’t.
But on my program, I don’t do a lot of Iraq reporting because we don’t know what’s happening. We can’t find out. Now the reason that CNN and MSNBC do so much Iraq reporting is because they want to embarrass the Bush administration. Both do. And all their reporting consists of is here’s another explosion. Bang. Here’s more people dead. Bang.
Alright, now we know that. We don’t have to report. It’s like Vietnam. Did you report every fire fight? No. The reason that CNN and MSNBC put it on is because they want to give the impression that the war is a loser and Bush is an idiot. That may be true. The war is a loser and Bush may be an idiot. Okay, that’s for you to decide. But that’s why they’re doing it.
They’re not doing it to inform anybody about anything. The terrorists are going to set off a bomb every day because they know CNN and MSNBC are going to put it on the air. That’s a strategy for the other side. The terrorist side. So I’m taking an argument that CNN and MSNBC are actually helping the terrorists by reporting useless explosions.
Do you care if another bomb went off in Tikrit? Does it mean anything? No! It doesn’t mean anything. You can’t put it in any perspective. We don’t know if the surge is working, if security is better. We can’t find out. Why? Because our correspondents can’t give you that kind of breadth, no correspondents could.
Now we don’t believe — “we” being The Factor — that the war in Iraq is going well. And I’ve said that over and over. Am I going to bring you every explosion? No. Kicker on this? Fox News creams CNN and MSNBC in the ratings all day, every day. At 8:00 The Factor beats every single — not only MSNBC and CNN — but CNBC and Headline News, combined. Because we bring you stuff that is new, that is relevant to your life, and I’m not going to cover every bomb that goes off in Tikrit.
Now the Associated Press writes this article, kicks it out there, like Fox is in the tank, and doesn’t want to give you bad news. That’s a lie. And it comes off a guys-that-hate-Fox Project for Excellence in Journalism. Come on. This guy Jurkowitz — I’m not going to get into the personal realm, but it’s just ridiculous.
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O’Reilly’s been Loofahing his Felafel too much.
He’s obviously gone insane.
June 12th, 2007 at 4:55 pmIn the whole scheme of things, other than Hiroshima and Nagasaki, did any individual bomb during WWII mean anything substantive? Of course, for family and friends of U.S. soldiers killed, it is a tragedy. O’Rielly is not discounting that.
June 12th, 2007 at 4:56 pmTheir corporate masters, and the puppets who watch, don’t want to hear about the Iraq war. Denial is a Republican staple.
June 12th, 2007 at 4:57 pmWAY off topic but absolutely hilarious. Chimpy had his watch stolen yesterday in Albania. Look at this. By the time this clip reaches 1:00 in, Chimpy’s watch has disappeared!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKDdF6vfjoo
June 12th, 2007 at 4:57 pmBecause they don’t care. They don’t care about the troops nor the American people. They cater to the GOPs, and spill their lies.
June 12th, 2007 at 4:58 pmIt figures some inbred Repuke troll would come in here and try to defend that psychopathic O’Reilly.
This is about how Fox News spent twice as much time as the other networks on Anna Nicole and much less time on Iraq, a real story.
O’Reilly’s defense of this is utter nonsense. Iraq is a story and deserves top coverage.
June 12th, 2007 at 4:58 pm“Do you care if another bomb went off in Tikrit? Does it mean anything? No! It doesn’t mean anything.”
I see that Bill “Support the Troops” O’Reilly… is spouting off the usual idiotic nonsense.
THIS, is what America has become folks.
June 12th, 2007 at 4:59 pmWhat O’Reilly is trying to justify is censorship of news events.
When a bomb goes off in Iraq and kills US troops, it IS news.
Every single freakin’ time. It never stops being news.
O’Reilly knows that these news reports are souring the public on the Iraq war, that’s why he defends censorship of Iraq coverage by FOX.
June 12th, 2007 at 4:59 pmUS Tells Maliki to Pass Oil Law by July
the commander,Adm. William Fallon, told Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki that theIraqi government should aim to complete a law on the division of oil proceeds by July. Iraq’s Shiite dominated-government, Fallon added in the meeting, has consolidated power and should have the confidence to reach out to its opponents. “You have the power,” Fallon said. “You should take the initiative.”
http://www.handsoffiraqioil.org/
June 12th, 2007 at 4:59 pm#2 Jakie Jakie Jakie,
Do you ACTUALLY BELIEVE what you just wrote??? If so, you are about the most blindly loyal Troll ever to mouth breathe!
You are also in favor of no caskets being shown or wounded? Even when I was in Vietnam, we had reporters there, showing people at home what was REALLY going on, but that is exactly what the BushCo Cabal doesn’t want to happen.
How sad your life must be, following these scumbags like you do.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:01 pmDidnt this get posted two months ago when that graph was recent?
If you must prove Bill-O irrelevant once again, im sure theres something more up to date that you could use.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:02 pmSo, what exactly is BillO saying? I thought the Fox News motto was “We Report. You Decide.” This makes it very difficult for someone to “decide” a matter if Fox doesn’t “report” the matter.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:02 pmFox, for over a decade, has charged that the “liberal media” was reporting news with a “bias” and that Fox would bring a “balance”–hence the motto. The accusation was that the “liberal media” were “deciding” FOR the viewer.
BillO has just proved that Fox is every bit as biased. Who the hell does BillO think he is to “decide” what to “report”?
(To the Falafel defenders, yes, I’m aware he’s commenting from his RADIO show, BUT he’s using his radio pulpit to defend his TV show’s network. Let’s get BillO on his TV show and defend Fox’s lack of coverage THERE.)
For the record, any “censorship” that violates the First Amendment should not be allowed by any State Actor — news departments are not State Actors.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:03 pmIntersting poll I found on Kos!!
It shows how Clinton is the only President since Truman to leave office with a higher approval rating then the one he came in with.
http://online.wsj.com/ public/ resources/ documents/ info-presapp0605-31.html
June 12th, 2007 at 5:03 pmTerrytheTurtle - - nice one
within 30 seconds his wristwatch was gone … ha ha
June 12th, 2007 at 5:03 pmJake has become a whole new level of dumb.
In the whole scheme of things, Jake means nothing.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:03 pmI hope my dad heard BO say that….
June 12th, 2007 at 5:04 pmI like how your transcripts start as his reference to the Left Wing Study. Taken in context, he was obviously saying something beforehand that lead to his calling it left-wing and you conveniently omitted that part of his monologue. Interesting.
And to some extent he is right. If 1 bomb going off each day would create an impression that the enemy is losing the war and it gets harped on and I can make use of it, guess what? Im setting a bomb off everyday. A previous commentor was correct, in other wars you didnt hear about every single bomb that went off. Its expected in a war situation. Its war, its gonna be terrible, lives are going to be lost, bombs and other explosions will go off. The problem is that is all the likes of CNN covers. They dont cover any of the good things our guys do over there. THAT is where the coverage is truly lacking. CNN and MSNBC harp on the bad stuff and completely ignore anything positive.
And OReilly himself complained on several occassions about the amount of coverage that was given to Anna Nicole.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:05 pmNoted historian, David McCullough, has stated America would have lost our own Revolutionary War if today’s media were covering that in 1776.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:06 pm….because they want to embarrass the Bush administration.
Is BO admitting that this war is an embarrassment to the Bush Admin?
I hope so.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:06 pm#17 Zooey,
Maybe if enough old-timers actually hear this kind of crap enough, we can get more support to dump this bunch of sewer sludge out on their collective asses!
June 12th, 2007 at 5:06 pmAnyone of the Greatest Generation knows this is true.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:06 pmMaybe if enough old-timers actually hear this kind of crap enough, we can get more support to dump this bunch of sewer sludge out on their collective asses!
Comment by upside00
You know it, upside00.
If I tell my dad about this, then I’m just hating BO. But if he hears it for himself, maybe, just maybe he’ll start thinking about what BO just said.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:08 pmMartin, if TP posted this “two months ago”, then maybe you should go on BillO’s show and ask HIM why he waited so long to comment on the matter. If you’ll reread the article posted by Amanda, “Today on his radio show, Fox News host Bill O’Reilly derided the group”.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:08 pmI’m kinda in a Haiku mood today:
Fox spews hateful trash,
Bildo the dildo,
Where’s the Iraq war?
June 12th, 2007 at 5:09 pmping
June 12th, 2007 at 5:09 pmFIGHTING IN A VACUUM
June 12th, 2007 at 5:09 pmTherein lies the quintessential soundbite that grasps the nature of the Neo-Orewellian world the Neoconservative Zionist Media has created. The MSM is engaged in “commission by omission”, aiding the Neoconservaitve propaganda by ignoring most of the war, so as to not instigate public outcry against a monster in the White House and a popular grassroots call for withdrawal. Unfortunately, they are signalling the troops, unintentionally, that the modern rulers, and by rulers I do not mean Bush, don’t really care what happens to them, they will die and or be maimed in social isolation, all for the greater glory of the propaganda machine.
The first casualty of war is truth.
Anyone of the Greatest Generation knows this is true.
Comment by Jake
You know nothing except how to be a passive authoritarian follower.
Baaaa…….sheep.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:09 pmZoo,
When we can get the truth to the American people, then MAYBE enough of them will wake up and do what is needed. (maybe Jake included, heh heh).
June 12th, 2007 at 5:10 pmAnd OReilly himself complained on several occassions about the amount of coverage that was given to Anna Nicole.
Comment by jason
Oh well……nevermind then.
**eyes rolling**
June 12th, 2007 at 5:10 pmIf the war were going well for America, why would O’Reilly call it an embarassment? He is just an entertainer who makes a living on the stupidity of Americans. Anyone with half a brain does not watch or listen to that opportunist.
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June 12th, 2007 at 5:12 pm“…That may be true. The war is a loser and Bush may be an idiot….Because we bring you stuff that is new, that is relevant to your life…”
That’s funny, he admits that Bush may be an idiot and the war is a loser (taken out of context, but still). He is also saying that the war in Iraq is irrelevant. That’s just funny.
He’s full of sh%t (aka ‘empty rhetoric’) and a bully, but sometimes he’s so off the wall phycho that I find it amusing.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:12 pmJosephW:
I think what BillO is saying “exactly” is to keep some perspective. If all Fox News did was report every DUI across the country, you would soon think it was an epidemic, even if the rate was declining. Get it?
June 12th, 2007 at 5:13 pmWhere’s that used loofah,
Why Bill its up your arsehole,
Dildo’s are more fun.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:13 pmJeez, what a whacko. I would NOT want him doing anything with a title for my house.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:14 pm#30
Agreed…. and include OxyCon Rush, Haniteehee, Beck and Savage in that group of panderers to the low-IQ 28%ers.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:14 pmStupid Repuke troll, trying to compare Iraq violence with DUIs.
This is like the idiot Repukes who tried to say Baghdad was safer than an American city.
Go back under your bridge, troll.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:15 pmHaiku for Jake:
Why does Jake come here,
For only the devil knows,
Blindness befouls Jake
June 12th, 2007 at 5:16 pmAll news stations need to be covering the fact that $300 billion has been spent on the on the war in Iraq while thousands of people around the world go to bed hungry each night. The Borgen Project states that according to the Millennium Development Goals there are elements in place to combat world hunger. The deficit in the funding is over $19 billion. Perhaps if some of the funds from the war on terror were used to fight global poverty lives could be save instead of American lives lost.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:16 pmActually, Bill’s right on this one — all of those bombs going off in Iraq, the sectarian death squads and all that nonsense… it really doesn’t matter. Certainly not to us Americans almost halfway around the world.
Whether this means that Bill has a “pre-9/11 mindset” where he ridiculously believes that oceans and such can protect us or is in favor of bringing our troops home because he can’t figure out what we’re spending over $8,000,000,000 per month out there on is what we’ll be discussing next on…
The Oh R’lyeh Factor! Your #1 show for driving pundits insane before we chow down on them…
June 12th, 2007 at 5:16 pmRoboTroll 3100 reports:
Individual bombs don’t mean anything.
Why should we ruin our beautiful minds with the one bomb a day that’s going off?
If you compare it to something much larger, it seems pretty small.
If NO bombs were going off, that would mean something and should be reported. But since SOME bombs are going off, they don’t mean anything.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:17 pmKeith Crapperman does nothing for the troops, either. War, of course, requires death, yet Olbermann mouths about it as an excuse to to mock the President excessively.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:18 pmThen our soldiers are dying for “nothing.” Thanks for pointing that out to us, Bill.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:18 pmA propaganda machine can’t be held to account the truth. End of Story.
O’Reilly’s motherstation should have their license censured- and their name changed to remove the word “news”.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:18 pmFor the record, any “censorship†that violates the First Amendment should not be allowed by any State Actor — news departments are not State Actors.
Comment by Jake
What exactly is a “State Actor”?
June 12th, 2007 at 5:18 pmThe right-wing (as usual) takes responsibility for nothing. This is their way of sweeping their mistake under the rug.
Heckuva f**ked up war, right-wingers. You broke it, you own it.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:19 pmBile-O: if explosions dont mean anything–why do they keep going off every fn day killing Americans? Do dying Americans not mean anything?
“So I’m taking an argument that CNN and MSNBC are actually helping the terrorists by reporting useless explosions.” So, those who died in those useless explosions are helping the terrorists by dying (because I think MSNBC and CNN are covering the people dying you dumb sh*t not the explosions).
Embarrass Bush? Not a chance. He doing just fine on his own!
June 12th, 2007 at 5:19 pmBob:
He’s right about keeping things in perspective (see my example about DUI above).
June 12th, 2007 at 5:19 pmDidnt this get posted two months ago when that graph was recent?
If you must prove Bill-O irrelevant once again, im sure theres something more up to date that you could use.
Comment by martin
martin, if we wanted to hear whining we’d talk to our kids. Couldn’t you just go to another thread?
June 12th, 2007 at 5:19 pmre: Comment No. 8 Tom3
Come on, read the transcript and don’t succumb to the spin.
O’Reilly’s point is that the difference in coverage is a function of CNN and MSNBC motives to discredit President Bush, rather then objective journalism. Which anyone with a brain might think is important to note as we move closer to the election cycle.
Perhaps that’s too difficult of a concept for you to grasp.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:20 pmUseless explosions?
O’Reilly is an idiot.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:20 pm#42 You couldn’t carry Keith’s (large) balls!! He is about the only true American on TV any more!
No one else will stand up to the BushCo Flying Circus and BullSh#t Machine. And his ratings are going up while Bill O’s are declining, as is Rusher’s and Beck’s.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:21 pmFor the record, more Americans are killed in traffic accidents each year than in combat. Also, see here for “State Actor”: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_actor
June 12th, 2007 at 5:21 pmFortunately O’Reilly isn’t a news director and doesn’t get to impose his censorship on the news.
He is just another Reichwing hot-air pundit.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:21 pmAnd OReilly himself complained on several occassions about the amount of coverage that was given to Anna Nicole.
Comment by jason
TP is hardly a bastion of O’Leilly love, so if you sycophants don’t like it, perhaps another website would be better for you.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:21 pmAll comments are to be posted in Haiku style, lets try.
Olbermann speaks truth,
His shtick can be dumb at times,
He should drop the shtick.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:22 pmNoted historian, David McCullough, has stated America would have lost our own Revolutionary War if today’s media were covering that in 1776.
Comment by Jake
Does he also add apples and oranges on a regular basis?
June 12th, 2007 at 5:22 pmMaybe if enough old-timers actually hear this kind of crap enough, we can get more support to dump this bunch of sewer sludge out on their collective asses!
Comment by upside00
Isn’t Jake an old-timer?
June 12th, 2007 at 5:23 pmFox News was singing a much different tune about the war back in 2003. Eagles were screeching and soaring across the TV screen as our Tanks were roaring across the desert into Baghdad. Fox News was one big, patriotic rightwing orgy wrapped in stars and stripes all day and all night. So what happened?
June 12th, 2007 at 5:23 pmI heard Glenn Beck’s ratings are in the terlit. LOL!!
I hope he gets fired soon. He’s a typical racist Repuke a$$hole.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:23 pmUseless explosions,
Is what we call Bill’s talking,
Turn off the T.V.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:23 pmAnyone of the Greatest Generation knows this is true.
Comment by Jake
I thought the “Greatest Generation” is WWII vets. Aren’t you an alleged Korean War veteran?
June 12th, 2007 at 5:24 pmTrends in collision statistics:
Road toll figures show that car collision fatalities have declined since 1980, with most countries showing a reduction of roughly 50%. This drop appears to confirm the efficacy of safety measures introduced thereafter, assuming that driver behaviour has not changed significantly.
In the United States, there were 42,884 traffic fatalities in 2003. However, in terms of fatalities per 100 million miles driven, the fatality rate has dropped 16% between 1995 and 2005. Injuries dropped 37% over the same period. (National Traffic Safety Administration, 2006)
June 12th, 2007 at 5:25 pmIt’s not surprising that they weren’t covering a war that has become a detriment for the conservatives. The Borgen Project states that it costs just $19 billion annually to end starvation, but the Bush administration has spent over $340 billion in Iraq. It’s no wonder that a war touting group isnt doing well and are seeking refuge from all the criticism.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:26 pmAs far as I know, none of the US traffic fatalities are people getting blown up by roadside bombs.
It figures the Repuke troll would support suppression of news.
Further proof that Repukes are fascist traitors.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:28 pmNoted historian, David McCullough, has stated America would have lost our own Revolutionary War if today’s media were covering that in 1776.
Comment by Jake — June 12, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
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And the Allies wouldn’t have won World War II had Bush and his corrupt, inept administration been in charge. Just for starters, sending half as many troops that were needed, and hearing such shit as “I doubt the war will last 6 months” would have gotten us laughed back to American soil.
Oh, and this teeny little fact: Hitler and the Axis powers were actually a threat. Iraq was not. Colin Powell and Condi Rice both said so in 2001. And this one, too: we fought the Japanese, who had actually attacked us, instead of running off to an innocent country like, oh, Australia, and destroying a sovereign country that was NO THREAT to us.
Idiot.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:28 pmFor the record, I am 75 years old, so I was a youngster during WWII and do not count myself as the Greatest Generation who overcame the Great Depression and WWII. I think David McCullough is right on the money too.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:28 pmFor the record, it’s sad that so many Americans think that he’s real news…
http://www.adweek.com/ aw/ magazine/ article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003596717
His glib attitude towards the violence in Iraq tells the whole story, he’s anti-human, anti-troop, and in my eyes, anti-American.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:29 pmThe Greatest Generation is a term sometimes used to denote the younger half of what is often referred to as the G.I. Generation. The term is derived from the title of a best-selling book by Tom Brokaw and is generally assumed to mean those born in the United States from about 1911 through 1924, with an alternate label, that of the Interbellum Generation, sometimes applied to persons born from 1901 through 1910.
In contrast to the Interbellum Generation, whose children were predominantly members of the Silent Generation, the Greatest Generation went on to give birth to the majority of the Baby Boomers, who then challenged their authority during the turbulent 1960s and early 1970s, especially over the issue of the Vietnam War.
They were the generation that fought during World War II and many again in the Korean War, and went on to rebuild the world’s industries in the following years. “The Greatest Generation” by Tom Brokaw depicts the Americans who came of age during the Great Depression and fought World War II, and went on to build America into the World Superpowr she is today.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:30 pmRoboTroll 3100 reports:
Many Americans are killed in DUI accidents each year.
Oranges are no good to American consumers because apples make better apple pie. If you try to make apple pie with oranges, you will see how right I am.
For the record, George Bush did not cause any DUI deaths this year. Yet the left-wing media will not report this fact.
Look over there! Paris Hilton’s lawyer!
June 12th, 2007 at 5:31 pmFor the record, Jake is a lying piece of $hit.
He’s a Repuke troll with nothing intelligent to say.
And like all Repukes, he’s a closet case.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:31 pm“State Actor” examples: Ronald Reagan, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Fred Thompson.
Brought to you by the hypocritical party that hates “Hollywood types.”
June 12th, 2007 at 5:31 pm-refresh-
June 12th, 2007 at 5:32 pmThis Repuke troll favors suppression of news that doesn’t support Chimpy. That is un-American.
He is not an American. He is a FASCIST.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:33 pmI think what BillO is saying “exactly†is to keep some perspective. If all Fox News did was report every DUI across the country, you would soon think it was an epidemic, even if the rate was declining. Get it?
Comment by Jake — June 12, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
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If it’s perspective you want, Jake, then Bill needs to report the good news stories…one per night…on his show that the Bush administration say are happening in Iraq. One of the troops involved in bringing Baby Noor over here to America for a life-alterting operation tells us that there are thousands of “good news” stories just like it.
So tell us, Jake, why doesn’t FoxNews.com have any good news stories on their Web site? They are the mouthpiece and the darling of the Bush administration, after all.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:33 pmDon’t forget Chuck Heston, another evil librrrul Hollywood type.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:33 pmPeople have the choice to switch to other channels for news.
But they still watch Fox in larger numbers. Which is their choice.
Probably because Fox is fair AND balanced.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:33 pmFOX News is fair and balanced? LOL!!
FOX News has been proven to be unfair and unbalanced.
Their bias is well known and documented.
Anybody who thinks FOX News is fair and balanced is an idiot.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:35 pmI get it O’Reily is saying that the American’s killed in Iraq don’t mean anything, they died in vain, and it was meaningless. Good job Bill keep it up.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:35 pm……….
June 12th, 2007 at 5:37 pmBy Dild O’Reilly’s convoluted reasoning, Rudy Giuliani was and is aiding al Queda when he was mugging for the cameras with a smoldering pile of 9-11 rubble behind him and when he keeps on invoking 9-11. Rudy keeps giving al Queda free advertising. Al Queda “is going to keep setting off bombs every day because they know” Rudy Giuliani is going to mention it everyday.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:37 pmRemember when Murdoch admitted he was using FOX News to sway public opinion towards the war in Iraq?
Remember Roger Ailes’ infamous memos where he ordered news editors to push fluff stories and suppress real news?
Yeah, fair and balanced. Surrrre.
Dumbass.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:39 pmJake and BillO can dismiss the deaths of our soldiers and pretend there’s nothing to see here because they see our troops as disposable fodder. For them, it’s all about supporting Bush, no matter how many are killed, no matter how messed up it is. Come on, here we are arming Sunnis now - the very people who have killed our troops over there and terrorized Iraqis- and they think it’s all hunky dorey. These are people with no moral compass. They prefer that our dead troops go unnoticed. So much for a grateful nation.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:45 pmOreilly’s kinda a dick.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:45 pmWAY off topic but absolutely hilarious. Chimpy had his watch stolen yesterday in Albania. Look at this. By the time this clip reaches 1:00 in, Chimpy’s watch has disappeared!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKDdF6vfjoo
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — June 12, 2007 @ 4:57 pm
Ha ha ha ha ha h ah ah ah ah ahahhaha hahahahahhahah.
I hope it was an extemely expensive Rolex.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:46 pmComment by Jake
75-year olds in my town write super-good articles to the editor of my local paper, and on the issue of illegal aliens they have an excellent wit and breathtaking arguments on how and why we should keep out these criminal mexicans. Afterwards, its funny to see these youngies try to respond to these veterans-in-life with their loony indoctrination talking-points. Quite stupid, they are. These kids will never be anything like the “greatest generation.” If you really are a 75 year-old war vet, I say GREAT for you! You rock!
June 12th, 2007 at 5:46 pmGeorge Bush himself has said that the “war” on terror will not be won the way a conventional war can be won. There will be no peace treaties signed aboard ships, he tells us.
So tell us, Jake, oh youngster of WWII, when will we be able to declare victory in the “war” on terror? What’s the percentage of terrorists that will have to be killed, or tried, convicted, and executed or locked up for life, in order for us to declare victory?
How many attacks per day, or week, or month, against our troops in Iraq will be acceptable to you in order for us to declare victory and start a drawdown of troops?
Why is it that Bush bitches and whines and accuses all Democrats of supporting the terrorists and wanting them to win and complains that the Middle East will collapse into chaos if we withdraw too soon and the terrorists will wait us out if we announce a timeline, yet he is all too ready to leave…”no problem”… if the Iraqi government asks us to go?
And why is it that Bush is oh so concerned about terrorists getting away if he has to go to the FISA court to get a warrant on a domestic-to-international call, yet isn’t the least bit concerned about catching a terrorist or is not concerned with the time it takes to get a warrant for a domestic-to-domestic call (which could easily involve two terrorists) because he’ll go to the court for that?
And why is it that the NSA needs the records of trillions of phone calls when the warrantless wiretapping program is limited, in that it targets known or suspected terrorists only?
June 12th, 2007 at 5:47 pmComment by Mr. President
Keith F*ckerman is not far behind.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:47 pmMy dad is an 85 year old veteran.
He hates Chimpy as much as I do.
Not all the Greatest Generation are idiot Repuke trolls.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:48 pmLooks like the trolls are having a circle-jerk again.
Bunch of homos.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:48 pm.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:50 pmOlberman recently had a Worst Person contest where O’Reilly was competing against himself.
O’Reilly got both the Worse and Worst prizes that day.
Keith Olberman ROCKS! He tells the truth and has a conscience.
Bill O’Reilly has neither.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:50 pmProbably because Fox is fair AND balanced.
Comment by muckdog — June 12, 2007 @ 5:33 pm
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It is not fair and balanced for Fox and Friends to denounce Tim Robbins for speaking out about views on the “war” on terror because he is an actor (and Democrat), yet days later invite another celebrity on the show and as the first question: “So, what do you think about the war?”
Oh, and in a fit of professionalism this morning, those idiots on Fox and Friends were superimposing pictures of their faces over that of a mug shot of a lady who had been arrested for stealing toilet paper.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:51 pmYeah, Fox is so neutral they have to tell you every other seg in big bold letters that they’re ‘fair and balanced’.
Remember when Cronkite said, “And that’s the way it is…” and you could believe it?
June 12th, 2007 at 5:52 pm….
June 12th, 2007 at 5:54 pmIn the whole scheme of things, other than Hiroshima and Nagasaki, did any individual bomb during WWII mean anything substantive? Of course, for family and friends of U.S. soldiers killed, it is a tragedy. O’Rielly is not discounting that.
Comment by Jake
You have a point there Jake. Unfortunately, it’s not a very good one.
How much TV news coverage did we have in the Forties? 1-2 hours a day, on each network perhaps? How many networks did we have then? Perhaps 2-3 or three, I guess. How many people even owned TVs then?
Contrasted with today, with dozens TV networks broadcasting news 24/7 each and every day.
Certainly the huge amount of news being aired on TV, in todays word, would warrant that if anything, MORE time could be allowed to report these sorts of events.
And YES, O’Reilly IS discounting it. As an (alleged) war veteran, you should be appalled at his comments.
Anyway, as usual, you present your self as a insufferable apologist, with absolutely NO credibility whatsoever.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:54 pmThey were the generation that fought during World War II and many again in the Korean War, and went on to rebuild the world’s industries in the following years. “The Greatest Generation†by Tom Brokaw depicts the Americans who came of age during the Great Depression and fought World War II, and went on to build America into the World Superpowr she is today.
Comment by Jake — June 12, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
Too bad all of those old people are going senile and think like you jake.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:56 pmI can’t stand it but I think OReilly has a point. By airing the successes of the insurgent or terrorists or whatever you want to call them, aren’t they getting what they want? Isn’t that the whole point of what they are doing?
June 12th, 2007 at 5:56 pmyep, you want our news to be censored?
go to hell, troll.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:58 pmFor the record, more Americans are killed in traffic accidents each year than in combat. Also, see here for “State Actorâ€: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_actor
Comment by Jake
Exactly, in fact, more people each month are killed then during the 911 attack.
SO WHY IS THIS WAR IN IRAQ BEING FOUGHT, ALLEGEDLY, FOR OUR SAFETY???
Wouldn’t better driver awareness programs, potentially, save a few thousand lives every year? Why isn’t more effort being put into such programs, IF THE GOVERNMENT IS REALLY SINCERE ABOUT OUR SAFETY???
June 12th, 2007 at 6:00 pmA sure sign billy is on his way out.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:03 pmHopefully he’ll take the whole station with him.
“Isn’t that the whole point of what they are doing?”
Comment by yep
Personally I don’t believe they deal in subtleties.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:03 pmThe insurgents/terrorists are simply interested in killing and maiming as many others as possible.
Notice that they have for the most part given up on broadcasting their successes, at least where we can view them here in this country.
I think that as a result of 6 years of inaction by the American public, and its representatives in Congress, they have come to believe that America, and all Americans, are truly evil, and need to be attacked at every opportunity.
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June 12th, 2007 at 6:04 pmO’Reilly is a neocon who takes order from the Jews.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:05 pmI congrdulate the Al-Qaeda in Iraq and other Jihadists.
I hope more Americans diee so our Great Mother Hillary wins in 2008!
Comment by Spudge_Boy
Well, those “old people going senile” laid the foundation of modern America that you enjoy today.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:06 pmI just read that the terrorists are using IEDs with sh!t in them.
So our troops get infected when they’re wounded.
O’Reilly would rather we didn’t know this. Bombs are meaningless.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:08 pmI don’t think the issue is really whether another bomb means something or not. The issue is that O’Reilly believes war reporting makes Bush look bad. If Iraq is going so well, then wouldn’t Bush want there to be more coverage of the war? And if the coverage is only on the “bad news”, then why doesn’t Fox cover the “good news” instead of just not covering it at all. Aren’t we supposed to be winning in Iraq? Wouldn’t Fox want to report that? Supposedly the surge is working… Shouldn’t Fox show us some examples of that on the news? Why is it that if we report the war, that is damaging to George Bush, so we just don’t report the war?
June 12th, 2007 at 6:08 pmI’m sure Michael Ware would love to come on BO’s show.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:11 pmAs a reply to yep….
“I can’t stand it but I think OReilly has a point. By airing the successes of the insurgent or terrorists or whatever you want to call them, aren’t they getting what they want? Isn’t that the whole point of what they are doing?”
Do you think that the most important thing to the insurgents is making the 6 o’clock news in the USA?
I think the most important thing to the insurgents is actually killing American soldiers and those in league with them. The foreign troops are considered occupyers and they want nothing more than all of them dead. That’s the most important thing. Documenting that to the public means nothing to them.
If Bush had been at all worried about his reputation.. he never would have kept the ground forces in there after his 4 day war.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:11 pm#
I’m sure Michael Ware would love to come on BO’s show.
Comment by michael — June 12, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
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June 12th, 2007 at 6:14 pmI would really like to see that.
For the record, and for those who have not encountered resident troll Jake before, he is not a “75-year-old Korean War veteran”. He had ceased making that claim a couple of months ago after he was busted trying to cop the bio of a real Korean War veteran. Apparently, he feels that enough time has gone by that no one will remember that incident.
Best estimates is that Jake is in his mid-twenties and underemployed. Also undereducated, judging by the quality of his posts.
He has no interest in honest debate. Ignore him.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:15 pm[]
June 12th, 2007 at 6:16 pm******So what does TP want? Maximize bad war news!! In fact TP and the Progressives Leftards LOVE BAAAAD news from the war front!! They would sign a surrender agreement themselves (if our enemies believe in such civilized things) if it would advance their political agenda.
They cheer when suicide bombers take out more innocent civilians….all the while wringing their hands over those same Iraqi’s. They secretly relish stories of IED’s and the wounds they inflict. Why??? Because Leftists despise conservatives…pure and simple. It’s not any more complicated than that. Because THIS attack occurred on a Repub presidents watch….the traitors of the Left are opposed.
While the previous administration ignored Saddam’s violations of the Gulf War Cease Fire and funding of suicide bombers….this President did not. Osama bin Laden were NOT “friends”…..but “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” and Saddam provided a hospitable and shady environment for international terrorists to gather……
Tooodles…
June 12th, 2007 at 6:16 pmNo wonder I’m turning to MSNBC for my news more and more. They lead in covering both the Presidential race and the Iraq War. Even their conservatives like Tucker Carlson and Joe Scarborough are somewhat tolerable, and don’t just blindly follow the party line on every subject. Plus they have Keith Olberman, the Edward R. Murrow of our generation.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:18 pmWhy O’Reilly’s not concern? Because he gets paid big time for not putting his big and useless ass on the line like our troops. That’s why the conservatives love him: The Big Money loves screwing over our troops while the ordinary conservatives love screwing over their family members that are in Iraq.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:19 pmComment by valiant venus — June 12, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
Why doesn’t Fox cover all of the good news in Iraq? Examples of how the surge is working? Examples of how our combat troops are helping their government become stronger? Anything positive at all? You rant and rave about all of the bad news being reported, but why is it that Fox is not reporting the good news?
June 12th, 2007 at 6:20 pmArmando - When was the draft re-instated???? Does the term “volunteer” ARMY confuse you?
June 12th, 2007 at 6:21 pm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
June 12th, 2007 at 6:21 pmChris - Have you ever seen people celebrate bad Iraq news as GLEEFULLY as leftards??? Me neither….
June 12th, 2007 at 6:23 pmI’m sure Michael Ware would love to come on BO’s show.
Comment by michael
I’d find a way to watch that. :)
June 12th, 2007 at 6:24 pm“Valiant Venus”,
No, they simply want a “news” organization to report the most important story of our time. No, not Anna Nicole or Paris Hilton, the IRAQ WAR.
The American public listed the Iraq War as their #1 issue back in November ‘06, and the casualties and scale of the war have only increased since then. If people are basing their election decision on Iraq, then obviously it’s important to us, and should be reported on by supposed “news” organizations. Stop dumbing down the news and turning it into Entertainment Tonight and report about what is happening in Iraq. If you can find positive stories too, fine, but at least report about events going on there. Don’t just try to sweep it under the rug now that it’s turned badly for Bush. Fox News was Iraq War 24/7 when things were going well.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:25 pmJake, please e-mail these people, who have lost their loved ones in Iraq, and let them know how meaningless you think that news about their loved ones getting killed is…
mfso@mfso.org
June 12th, 2007 at 6:26 pmI wonder why oprah likes him !
June 12th, 2007 at 6:27 pm> While the previous administration ignored Saddam’s violations of the
> Gulf War Cease Fire and funding of suicide bombers….this President did
> not. Osama bin Laden were NOT “friendsâ€â€¦..but “the enemy of my
> enemy is my friend†and Saddam provided a hospitable and shady
> environment for international terrorists to gather……
> Tooodles…
> Comment by valiant venus
(…voiceover…)
Valiant Venus - Toeing the Party Line 24/7 with proud cluelessness, so YOU don’t have to!
Get informed now at your friendly liberal media outlet before the cattle truck arrives.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:29 pm-
June 12th, 2007 at 6:30 pm.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:31 pm#
Chris - Have you ever seen people celebrate bad Iraq news as GLEEFULLY as leftards??? Me neither….
Comment by valiant venus — June 12, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
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I have never seen anyone on either the right or left celebrate bad news in Iraq. Ever. However, if you’re going to say that all war reporting is bad, then you are saying there is no good news to report. Why isn’t Fox reporting the good news?
June 12th, 2007 at 6:31 pmWell, those “old people going senile†laid the foundation of modern America that you enjoy today.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
You’re damn right they did, and I asked my 83 year old grandfather, a member of the Greatest Generation, his opinion on the news coverage. You see, he contributed in WWII as a cryptographer and electrical engineer in LA, so he knows something about the distribution of information in wartime. In his opinion, war news of the “exercise in futility,” as he calls the Iraq War, is being severely suppressed in the media as a whole, mor e than anyone of us knows.
Its a completely different war, he says. Then, information couldn’t travel fast enough to be much good to the public or and at times, the military. Now, information is power, and fear is the unknown, which is how terrorists, any terrorists, want it. The more we know about what is going on, the less fearful we will be as a whole and that includes the disaster in Iraq. The media was suppressed by the gov’t in every war until the Persian Gulf War, which by anyone’s standards was a success. Now we have reverted back to the old days. And we are worse off for it.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:37 pmDear Who cares aboutMichaelMoore - I’m really surprised!! IF the Dems are such a (small “d” ) democratic AND responsive party, how come they have not overwhelmingly responded to the concerns of the American people….you know, those folks you cite. The people spoke - Dems could end the war very quickly…..IF they wanted to. (So now you think we should not just report the news - which Fox and other outlets do - but re-convince the American public that the Dems are going to end this war, which they won’t.) You see, this isn’t about “the WAR”….it’s about the Dems gaining power. Frankly, if Dems keep up they way they have, I think you’ll have to get used to saying “President Thompson.” (Psssst…..it’s TOUGH to turn a cooing dove into a mighty eagle.)
Seriously, I do appreciate the fact you fail to comment on the bad war news which is relished by the Left.
Thanks for playing…..
June 12th, 2007 at 6:37 pmPersonally I don’t believe they deal in subtleties.
The insurgents/terrorists are simply interested in killing and maiming as many others as possible.
Notice that they have for the most part given up on broadcasting their successes, at least where we can view them here in this country.
I think that as a result of 6 years of inaction by the American public, and its representatives in Congress, they have come to believe that America, and all Americans, are truly evil, and need to be attacked at every opportunity.
Comment by heyzeus
I think they deal a great deal in subleties. It is as much a propoganda war as it is a military war.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:37 pm“I have never seen anyone on either the right or left celebrate bad news in Iraq.” Comment by Chris L.
Dear ChrisL - You must be new here…..
June 12th, 2007 at 6:39 pmValiant Venus,
Liberals are spineless. But take heart, our tax bills would be at 90% if they weren’t.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:43 pm..
June 12th, 2007 at 6:43 pmDear ChrisL - You must be new here…..
Comment by valiant venus
Hag, if you have links to any alleged celebrations, I’d be happy to read them.
Oh right…….you don’t do links, do you?
Run along…..
June 12th, 2007 at 6:44 pmI hope for more US deaths!
June 12th, 2007 at 6:46 pm–
June 12th, 2007 at 6:48 pmReally now, in the broader scheme of life, wouldn’t you all agree that it’s more important to keep the Leader of the free world from looking bad by admitting a mistake than to have a few more soldiers alive.
Come on, those young punks are a dime a dozen. And they volunteered to serve, they knew what they were in for. It’s not like they were lied to, like they signed up for National Guard and got shipped off to die for Bush’s ego.
Anyway, get past it. Go spend some of your tax break from our Dear God George Bush and go out to dinner. You deserve a break from all that bad news.
By the way, anyone know if Anna Nicole is still dead?
Fu*ck you trolls in the a$$.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:48 pmIraquee chumps need to quit strapping bombs on themselves.
June 12th, 2007 at 6:53 pmO’Reilly seems to always be ready to give an ‘unconvincing answer’.
His explanations for not covering the war is stupid.
So according to O’Reilly , ‘the terrorists are setting off bombs everyday, so CNN and MSNBC put the story on the air daily’ .
Well, if that is the case…then we can stop the war and IED’s by simply telling CNN and MSNBC reporters to go home , and that will end everything,and insurgents will stop putting bombs,and simply vanish,applying O’Reilly arguments..!!
June 12th, 2007 at 7:00 pmIsn’t that the whole point of what they are doing?
Comment by yep — June 12, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
No.
June 12th, 2007 at 7:01 pmTake another look at the chart above and see that Faux NoNooz led the way in ANSmith reporting while lagging behind the others in both the Iraq Clusterf@ck as well as the 08 Presidential campaign. That just aobut sums up what happens when Murdoch controls the entertainment channel….. it becomes an entertainment channel!!!!
Maybe they can get Katie Couric to come on to help them with the hard news.
June 12th, 2007 at 7:01 pmFUTITA
June 12th, 2007 at 7:03 pmI’d like to hear from a BO fan who also happens to be the parent of a troop killed in Iraq. I wonder how, or if, they would be able to justify BO saying explosions in Iraq don’t mean anything?
June 12th, 2007 at 7:04 pmPlease for the love of Christ People -
IGNORE JAKE THE FAKE
- he is a known liar
- he is the worse kind of troll
- please do not read his posts and donot respond to his posts.
He is only here to disrupt things - he is not some old cogger either - he is a immature 26 - 32 year old who gets his kicks doing it, or maybe getting paid to do it.
IGNORE THE TROLLS - Debate good, Trolls bad
June 12th, 2007 at 7:06 pm10101010
June 12th, 2007 at 7:15 pmFox is puff.
June 12th, 2007 at 7:15 pmI really can’t imagine the ‘insurgents’ (or terrorists, whatever) caring much about our meadia coverage or lack of it. We really can’t apply the “I’m on TV!” American mentality to such extreme violent freaks.
June 12th, 2007 at 7:17 pm‘Explosions Don’t Mean Anything’
What a despicable, goose stepping piece of sh*t.
June 12th, 2007 at 7:24 pmOf course every explosion means something, it means that lives are ending and we are the cause of this. O’Reilly is probably sexually harassing another assistant and doesn’t have the time to really give this much thought. He’s no doubt dreaming of some woman in the shower during every show while he’s talking about “explosions”. It’s all the same to him.
His blaming the violence on the media is not even worth a response.
June 12th, 2007 at 7:24 pmDear Bill,
June 12th, 2007 at 7:29 pmMaybe you don’t care about the explosions but the mother and father of the child that was killed in the explosion, does care. The families that lost their son or daughter in war, they do care. Bill, it isn’t that MSNBC wants to embarrass Bush, Bush does a great job of that on his own. MSNBC reports news, ok Billy? MSNBC doesn’t have it’s head up Bush’s ….yeah, you know. Bill is so afraid to give the news as his boss would fire him if he caused any problems for the christian white house of corruption and torture. I am sure Keith Olberman will have something to say about this in one of his special comments. i would love to hear it.
Yep. Some sacrifice.
They’re in a country INNOCENT of the charges that brought them there, and yet still they continue to bomb, and shoot, and kill (655,000+)…for what? to pacify the “insurgency”? If the reason you went there was proven patently false and yet you stay there even after the fact, then that doesn’t make them “resistance” that makes them “freedom fighters” because they are attempting to repel a hostile illegal unwarranted takeover.
Lets imagine Mexico attacked the US because they heard somewhere in California they were working on a bio-weapon that killed hispanics. So they invade, and bomb, and kill, and meet resistance. It turns out there are no bioweapons and the politicians and public were deliberately mislead from the start. Would they be warranted in staying anyway to pacify resistance? No. The only thing our troops are sacrificing is their dignity because they fight not to uphold a cause, but instead to maintain a lie. They die not to ensure America’s freedom, but the ensure the ability of corrupt politicians to weld malevolent power & unjust influence.
The troops aren’t “sacrificing” anything but rather are being sacrificed to maintain and glorify the influence of corrupt politicians and their secret personal agendas.
June 12th, 2007 at 7:33 pm#151 beljar -
Bill O shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence as Keith O.
Bill O is a crass, crude, sexist, elitist bully who is so afraid of Rupert that he stutters if anyone tries to disagree with him, so he shuts their mic off.
June 12th, 2007 at 7:34 pmAnd Fox’s audience is reflective of Bill O ……………. crass, crude, sexist, elitist, racist, bullies
June 12th, 2007 at 7:37 pmnanlichi,
I didn’t see that you were sarcastic for a minute and you had me pissed off untill I realized you were mocking the trolls. I agree with you. The trolls would rather have soldiers die than have Bush admit a mistake.
What a sad, sorry bunch of losers they are. Not worth even the disgust I feel.
I like that, FUTITA.
June 12th, 2007 at 7:54 pmDoes it matter that Bill O’Reilly’s breath smells like ass?
June 12th, 2007 at 7:59 pm“Do you care if another bomb went off in Tikrit? Does it mean anything? No! It doesn’t mean anything.”
OMG, just when I think this guy couldn’t get more disgusting, he goes and proves me wrong. I’m sorry Mr. O’Reilly, but I am quite sure that the bomb going off in Tikrit means something to the families of the people killed by that bomb. What a callous SOB this man is. If I was a religious person, I would ask God to smite him. He sure deserves smiting!
June 12th, 2007 at 7:59 pmFUTITA - So say we all!
June 12th, 2007 at 8:03 pm“US Tells Maliki to Pass Oil Law by July”.
I think it would be hysterical if the Iraqi’s pass the oil law giving the Shiites 33%, the Sunnis 33% and the Kurds 33% and the final 1% to the US and British oil corporations.
Even if the US puppets in the Iraqi Parliament are able to get the law passed stealing 70% of Iraq’s oil, it won’t last long. As soon as they can, the Iraqi’s will nationalize their oil and kick out the American and British oil companies. Many lives will be lost, but you can be sure that the Iraqi’s are not going to sit idly by and watch their oil being stolen from them.
June 12th, 2007 at 8:04 pmI have trashed my tv because it has become a GOP propaganda tool. Bill O what’s his name is a white Christian racist and a mediocre news person.
June 12th, 2007 at 8:10 pmodds on billo winning olbermann’s worst person in the world (again)? - it’s a slam dunk!!
June 12th, 2007 at 8:26 pmYou can tell characters like Jake and valiant venus are doing nothing more than trolling, and obfuscating with malicious purpose. Notice the singular lack of answering a pertinent question, and one that any good debater would bring up in such a debate.
If you cannot answer the one, simple question you were asked, how can we take you seriously? It is not a legitimate tactic in a debate, or at the least is seen as being intellectually lazy or dishonest, to ignore the question presented, and instead attack your opponent on something other than the merits of his argument.
If you cannot answer this one, simple question, you cannot be debated with in any sort of legitimate manner:
“If FOX News is upset that the news media only reports the bad news coming out of Iraq and never the good, why doesn’t FOX News tell us about all of the good news coming out of Iraq everyone else is so irresponsibly refusing to report about?”
June 12th, 2007 at 8:35 pmThey cheer when suicide bombers take out more innocent civilians….all the while wringing their hands over those sam