Politico Hedges Its Bets, Claims Conservatives Will ‘Back’ And ‘Bolt’ From Giuliani
Politico Hedges Its Bets, Claims Conservatives Will ‘Back’ And ‘Bolt’ From Giuliani
On May 28, Politico’s senior political writer David Paul Kuhn wrote an article with the headline “Social conservatives bite bullet, back Rudy.” Kuhn’s lead declared the conservative base was increasingly falling for Giuliani because he was perceived as “most electable.”
In just two weeks time, Politico’s Kuhn turned the story on its head and wrote a piece with exactly the opposite lede. In an article entitled, “Conservatives would bolt over Rudy,” Kuhn declared the conservative base was threatening to take flight from the Republican Party if Giuliani were to win the nomination.
As a staff writer, Kuhn is not responsible for the headlines on his articles. That’s the job of Politico’s editor, John Harris. Harris famously patted himself on the back for conceiving the inartful and inaccurate characterization of the Democrats’ supposed “slow bleed” Iraq strategy. Harris later explained:
You can understand my pride of authorship. Editors labor in obscurity. Our job is to keep reporters from looking bad, and to let them take the credit when they look good. Rarely is there tangible evidence that we are having any impact. But in 20-plus years in the business, I can scarcely recall an instance when words typed on my keyboard have had such a loud and immediate echo.
Harris need not worry. He is certainly having an impact. Whether Giuliani ends up winning or losing the support of social conservatives, we’ll know one thing for certain: Politico had it nailed…and they had it completely wrong.
(HT: TP reader ME)
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They just don’t have anyone that looks like a possible winner right now. It must be a lame feeling.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:24 amand Mike Allen will go no Fox every day to explain why this is no contradiction.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:27 amRudy is a land-mine for the GOP, because he is a cross-dresser/drag-queen and ultimately Americans will not vote for somebody like that for president.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:27 amI think Hillary Clinton will win the presidency.
I think Rudy Guiliani will win the presidency.
I think Mitt Romney will win the presidency.
I think Barak Obama will win the presidency.
etc
Aren’t I such a brilliant political pundit and soothsayer?
June 12th, 2007 at 11:29 amDepends. Many of them won’t vote for Rudy in the primary but certainly will support him fully against the corrupt appeaser Hillary Clinton.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:29 amDoes it really matter who “the American people” will vote for?
Did it matter in 2004? Did it matter in 2000?
June 12th, 2007 at 11:30 amcross-dresser/drag-queen and ultimately Americans will not vote for somebody like that for president.
Then I guess Hillary is doomed.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:30 amIt mattered indeed in 2000. Just ask Osama Bin Laden who could attack America at will prior to GW being elected.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:31 amTruly a schizoid party now the poor, poor GOP. They are truly a divided house eating their own in a terminal civil war. The Xenophobe troglydytes who have had a staple diet of fear and derision these past seven years are HORRIFIED that ‘darky’s’ illegals ‘be granted amnesty’ While the corporate masters stick a shiv in the base for the corporate agenda. All the while the Christian Taliban writhe.
Truly entertaining to see them eat their own imploding under derision and failed leadership. it is expected they look to an actor, an impressionist again as their Savior. The schizoid flaling is certainly expected.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:32 amI’m sorry to get picky, but lede is not a word. It’s “lead” but it’s not pronounced like the heavy metal.
Check it out on Merriam-Webster’s web site:
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/lede
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=lead
June 12th, 2007 at 11:33 amUnvarnished Truth sez:
Who?
June 12th, 2007 at 11:33 amIf you want war – vote republican
If you want peace – vote democrat
I think most people are sick of war – looks like the trolls lose
June 12th, 2007 at 11:33 amUnvarnished > Hillary is female, so she cannot be a drag queen and I have never seen her cross-dress in men’s clothing. Rudy has dressed up as a female several times and even had a video made of Donald Trump kissing his phony boobs. Giuliani has destroyed himself & good riddence.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:34 am#4 ~ I predict – and you can quote me on this, I have a strong track record supported by authoritative opinions on all sides of the political spectrum – that you will see a candidate emerge as the favorite, and carry the Presidency, whose message most closely resonates with a majority of voters.
Yeah, exactly.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:36 amIf you want war – vote republican
If you want peace – vote democrat
I think most people are sick of war – looks like the trolls lose
Comment by Tobey Tall — June 12, 2007 @ 11:33 am
So, there were no wars under Democratic Presidents? wow, go figure, during my Presidency there was…
Somolia and Kosovo and countless small scrimages around the world.
Well, thanks Tobey Tall, I am glad you are ignorant, you will always be one of our voters.
If you look at USA history, some of its biggest wars happened under Democratic Presidents.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:36 amAlbert (#10), I had the same question. But when I looked it up, it appears that “lede” is most often used by journalists to refer to their introductions.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lede
It’s still a little unclear to me.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:38 amObama would be the only Dem that would really get us out of Iraq. Hillary wouldn’t. Ron Paul would too.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:41 amForTruth > Obama damaged himself yesterday by not showing up to vote on “No Confidence” motion against Alberto Gonzales.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:46 amI wonder if Rudy will wear a dress during one of the debates? You can’t deny who you are, Ms. Rudy.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:47 amfresh
June 12th, 2007 at 11:49 amOversight > Rudy should be required to dress up as an ugly female for every debate, because that is who he really is a cross-dresser.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:50 amwars will be thing of the past soon – best change American economic strategies
June 12th, 2007 at 11:51 amTrudi Giuliani is a cross-dressing draq queen with a dresser drawer full of panties. Giuliani knows his bra size.
He is toast as soon as the photos hit the press in red states.
Social conservatives hate gays and they hate men in dresses.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:53 amI don’t give the clowns at Politico 3 months past the election. They lost all credibility months ago with their false reporting and then solidified it after the last debate. That paper is toast.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:53 amI think conservatives do this kind of crap on purpose so that no matter what happens, they can look back and say, “see! We were right! We speak for the American people and therefore have massive credibility.”
Which then leads to the media beleiving the POlitico has credibility and speaks with the people, so they treat the POlitico as a credibile source on all things.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:54 amFaiz, pretty good explanation of lede:
http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=20001128
June 12th, 2007 at 11:56 amYet more evidence that for Rudy, the GOP primaries will be a real drag.http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000535.htm
June 12th, 2007 at 11:58 amIt mattered indeed in 2000. Just ask Osama Bin Laden who could attack America at will prior to GW being elected.
Comment by Unvarnished Truth — June 12, 2007 @ 11:31 am
Osama bin Laden attacked the US AFTER Bush was elected. It happened on Spetember 11, 2001.
Osama bin Laden is also free to attack us right now. Bush has done nothing to ensure that doesn’t happen again.
Go lie somewhere else.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:58 amFederation claims tactical victory as negotiations resume and Ministry of Oil is reprimanded
Naftana will continue to relay news of the oil workers in their struggle to improve living and working conditions, assert trade union rights and protect Iraq’s oil from the proposed oil law, championed by the occupation governments.
ALSO
Solidarity Letter from the Italian Chemical, Energy and Manufacturing Trade Union Federation
http://www.basraoilunion.org/
That dirty little oil just keeps slipping from Bushes grasp everyday
Ha ha ha ha
June 12th, 2007 at 11:58 amIn the latest LA Times poll Hillary” friend of the Chi-Coms” Clinton trails Rudy by 10%. Oops.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:59 amMaybe Trudi Giuliani WILL win the GOP nod.
After all, the Repukes are all closet cases.
Maybe they all secretly want to traipse around in women’s clothes.
LOL!!
June 12th, 2007 at 11:59 amWho in God’s name with a Brain and a Soul could support this War Criminal and Pathological Liar.
Giuliani is a Scum Bag through and through.
June 12th, 2007 at 11:59 amI’m moving to Norway if this Evil Bastard becomes Prez.
lets face it the democrats will win by a landslide next election
trolls we be worthless trivialities
June 12th, 2007 at 11:59 amLet me be clear – I LIKE Rudy Guiliani. I think he would be a FAR superior President in the field of National Defense than Hillary, Barack or John Goodhair. (Ostriches like these Dem candidates have a tendency to miss the obvious threat because their collective heads are in the sand.) Should he be the nominee of the Republican Party I will support him.
Unfortunately, many conservatives (myself included) disagree with Rudy’s stance on the intrinsic evil of abortion, support for the the 2nd Amendment, etc. (I am not a Romney supporter because I’m not sure what he stands for……..today.) For this reason, MANY of us enthusiastically support Fred Thompson. (I can envision a Thompson/Clinton debate…..folksey, sure-footed Fred and shrill-Hill…..)
June 12th, 2007 at 12:00 pmBut in 20-plus years in the business, I can scarcely recall an instance when words typed on my keyboard have had such a loud and immediate echo.
Really?
Give the bushtards something they can repeat over and over, in a failed bid to appear human, and you’ll see it again! The key word is “echo.” Blow it into the empty space between their ears and you can’t lose.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:02 pm.
The presence of a word in a particular dictionary means that it’s a word. The absence of a word from a particular dictionary does not mean that it’s not a word.
“Lede” most definitely is a word, and “lead” is generally considered to be an acceptable alternate spelling.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:02 pmI couldn’t keep track of a Guiliani presidency. I mean, we would see a lot of turnover in the First Lady’s office.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:03 pmKay, Will you be moving to Norway if Thompson is elected? If you must move, please take Alec Baldwin, Rosie O’Donnell, Charlie Sheen, Cindy Sheehan, etc. with you….
Skoal!
June 12th, 2007 at 12:04 pmAlbert (#10), I had the same question. But when I looked it up, it appears that “lede†is most often used by journalists to refer to their introductions.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lede
It’s still a little unclear to me.
Comment by Faiz — June 12, 2007 @ 11:38 am
Faiz, as somebody who works with the press on a daily basis, I can tell you from personal experience that only up tight jerk wads use “lede” the rest all use “lead.” Journalists that use “lede” are trying to make themselves sound smart. All it does is make them appear to be nit wits.
Did you read the page that you linked Faiz?
lede
noun
the introductory section of a story; “it was an amusing lead-in to a very serious matter” [syn: lead]
Even the dictionary reference page you sent us to uses “lead” in the definition.
Now, feel free to stop using “lede.”
June 12th, 2007 at 12:04 pmI hope the GOP does put its chips on the guy they think is most “electable.” We had Kerry, they’ll have Giuliani.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:06 pmIt’s still a little unclear to me.
Comment by Faiz
Hmm. Posted this URL once and now I can’t see it.
http://tinyurl.com/ajlmc
Upshot is that “lede” is a perfectly acceptable variation of the word “lead”. Tad pretentious, maybe, but still English.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:09 pm[Refresh]
June 12th, 2007 at 12:11 pmvaliant venus,
Will you be going back and taking over management of the fifth level of hell if a Democrat gets elected? Please take all your troll buddies and other traitors with you.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:13 pmIt’s pretty simple:
GOP = Bush = War = Death
Any vote for ANY GOP candidate is just more of the same failed policies and Americans dying in a pointless, unnecessary war. They’re all slices from the same loaf of bread. Some just have more mold and some are the heels.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:14 pmLede is an old newspaper slang term for “lead”. When the typeset was done in ead metal, they used to use “lede” to distinguish it from the typeset lead. No one uses lead any more, so there is no confusion. Those uppity jounralists still use that term to show they are superior to us normal people.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:17 pmRudy has so many skeletons crammed into every closet in each every house that he has occupied that it would be open-season on scandals and poor judgement during the general election. The final result of aa Rudy campaign would be the total destruction of the GOP.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:19 pmI’ve always thought of “lede” as sort of a “look at me, I’m inside baseball!” sort of word.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:21 pmThe TP community has spoken. “Lede” has been changed to “lead.” Thanks for all the research provided.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:22 pmThe TP community has spoken. “Lede†has been changed to “lead.†Thanks for all the research provided.
Comment by Admin
Hooray for us. Now about those trolls . . .
June 12th, 2007 at 12:23 pmValiant:
It must make yourself feel better to mock other people. If that what it takes to pump up your ego.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:24 pmSponge Cake – Having never been in hell you must be confusing me with someone else…..Of course, I love my country more than I dislike any Dem politician, so I would never leave. If a Demo-strich should be elected I would remain as a member of the loyal opposition.
Because WHINEY Progs wring their hands and swear to leave the country (and RARELY, if ever, do!) conservatives are most appreciative of the comic relief provided by Progs!
Tooodles…’til later
June 12th, 2007 at 12:26 pm[Refreshments, anyone?]
June 12th, 2007 at 12:26 pmValiant:
It must make yourself feel better to mock other people. If that what it takes to pump up your ego.
Comment by Kay — June 12, 2007 @ 12:24 pm
It is the only thing she does. She still thinks that what she says is relevent.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:26 pmvaliant > Karl Rove called to say you are needed on DailyKos today. You did not get the memo about this?
June 12th, 2007 at 12:28 pmTooodles…’til later
Comment by valiant venus — June 12, 2007 @ 12:26 pm
I could only wish and dream that you were really leaving, but we all know it is true.
You also need to know that we aren’t going anywhere. We are going to stay right here and hold your masters feet to the fire of truth justice and the American way. Your kind are going the way of the dodo.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:28 pmKay – You think #38 is mocking?? Maybe you’ve had one tooo many sessions of “sensitivity training” It must make you feel important that anyone would care or miss you if you moved to Norway….Don’t let the door hit you…..
Tooodles……
June 12th, 2007 at 12:29 pm[Refreshing - TP]
June 12th, 2007 at 12:35 pmr e f r e s h
June 12th, 2007 at 12:35 pmTooodles……
Comment by valiant venus
Weren’t you leaving or something? Off to find feral cats to torture, maybe?
June 12th, 2007 at 12:38 pmJulie-Aunie
June 12th, 2007 at 12:40 pmIf you want war – vote republican
If you want peace – vote democrat
Comment by Tobey Tall
Wrong. Dems will get wars, no doubt.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:41 pmOr at least bolted, not to mention, screwed . . .
June 12th, 2007 at 12:42 pmUpshot is that “lede†is a perfectly acceptable variation of the word “leadâ€. Tad pretentious, maybe, but still English.
Comment by gummitch — June 12, 2007 @ 12:09 pm
Oh “lede” is perfectly acceptable,
especially if you want to sound like a douchebag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 12th, 2007 at 12:42 pmU.S. Troop Buildup in Iraq Is Failing, UN’s Ban Says (Update3)
By Bill Varner
June 11 (Bloomberg) — The buildup of U.S. troops in Baghdad is failing, according to a report by United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon that said the heavily fortified Green Zone in the Iraqi capital has become too dangerous for his staff.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:53 pmWell between those two articles didn’t a few prominent social conservatives come out and say they wouldn’t back Rudy? So in this case it would make sense to change their viewpoint on it? It’s got to be a better option than stay the course anyways.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:53 pmDoes it really matter who “the American people†will vote for?
Did it matter in 2004? Did it matter in 2000?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
We still think we live in democracy, while the same people perpetuates themselves in power.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:54 pmmmkmlm
June 12th, 2007 at 12:58 pmThe buildup of U.S. troops in Baghdad is failing,
The troop buildup has been in place less time than the new Congress and is working about as well.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:59 pmOh “lede†is perfectly acceptable,
especially if you want to sound like a douchebag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Mr. President
I will defer to your considerable expertise on sounding like a douchebag. You have it down pat.
June 12th, 2007 at 1:00 pmJohn Edwards has the best counteractant to all of this image nonsense: “Want four more years of Bush? That’s what you’ll get if you vote for (Giuliani, Romney, Thompson, or McCain).”
Our military is crumbling in Iraq. The world hates us–and is beginning to sneer at us. Gas is $3.50 a gallon. Health care prices continue to skyrocket.
The public doesn’t want a daddy. The public wants things fixed. The candidate could look like George Clooney with Vin Diesel’s muscles and James Earl Jones’s speaking voice, and if he’s going to give us four more years of George W. Bush, Dennis Kucinich in a tutu would defeat him.
June 12th, 2007 at 1:04 pm878b-b=987
June 12th, 2007 at 1:06 pmMr. President, is that you?
June 12th, 2007 at 1:06 pmDid Edwards say that before or after he left the beauty salon?
June 12th, 2007 at 1:07 pmlklk
June 12th, 2007 at 1:17 pmAlbert I am sorry you got picky too:
“I’m sorry to get picky, but lede is not a word. It’s “lead†but it’s not pronounced like the heavy metal.”
Because while neither my paper American Heritage or my Oxford University Dictionaries picked it up ‘lede’ is clearly a term of art in newspapers. As an example the New York Times has a webpage called: http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/ and I got 806,000 hits on Google on ‘news lede’.
Pedantry can get pretty pedantic sometimes.
June 12th, 2007 at 1:23 pmIt mattered indeed in 2000. Just ask Osama Bin Laden who could attack America at will prior to GW being elected.
Comment by Unvarnished Truth
Somebody remind this troll who was President of the United States on September 11, 2001
June 12th, 2007 at 1:27 pmread about Rudy here:
http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/
June 12th, 2007 at 1:30 pmBruce Webb,
Read post #39.
Then come back.
NY Times = nit wits
June 12th, 2007 at 1:32 pm8ubnubub
June 12th, 2007 at 1:35 pmllklk
June 12th, 2007 at 1:48 pmLook, Rudy is going to be the GOP nominee. We had all better get used to the idea and start shredding him, like, yesterday. And whether we all want to believe it or not, he will be very, very difficult to beat. We shouldn’t be overconfident about this election, at all. Public support is very soft in every direction.
June 12th, 2007 at 1:54 pmWhat’s with all the prescriptivisits?
June 12th, 2007 at 1:55 pm9-er
June 12th, 2007 at 3:30 pm-,l ,m
June 12th, 2007 at 4:07 pmOstriches like these Dem candidates have a tendency to miss the obvious threat because their collective heads are in the sand.) — Comment by valiant venus
No Democratic President would be stupid enough to miss a threat as OBVIOUS as “OSAMA DETERMINED TO ATTACK INSIDE THE UNITED STATES.” Only a truly ignorant, fearful leader would let that one go without any response.
June 12th, 2007 at 4:51 pmAccording to the polls, not only is Rudy leading the GOP primary battles, he’d open up a big ol’ can of whoop a$$ on Hillary or Obama in November ‘08.
President Rudy.
Get used to it.
June 12th, 2007 at 5:36 pmDear OB – Thanks for playing in both sides of the street. “OSAMA DETERMINED TO ATTACK INSIDE THE UNITED STATES,†– that’ll really get you thinking!! Of course, when the worst Dem President, Jimmy “Sheehan” Carter, gutted the “intelligence” community, it was difficult to get a handle on when, where, how, who……we got the picture on the “why”.
Then we have enemy collaborators and apologists who think the terror “issue” can be resolved with diplomacy and “law enforcement”…..and the weirdly funny thing – leftard collaborators vote DEM.….
June 12th, 2007 at 6:02 pmHis cross-dressing is the least of his problems. Lurking around free republic convinces me that Republican die-hards are going to have an extremely hard time voting for a thrice married man who openly cheated on his wife, who is pro-choice, pro-gun control and not anti-gay.
As for the squishy moderates, they are going to be PISSED when they find out how Rudy treated the New York Firefighter’s Union members, the REAL heroes on 9-11. Read their letter to Rudy here
June 12th, 2007 at 8:16 pm.
June 13th, 2007 at 9:04 am