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		<title>By: Think</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/12/the-army-now-admits/comment-page-4/#comment-3920032</link>
		<dc:creator>Think</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone bother to look at that site reporting this?  The prior article is about kids getting rides on Giant Squids:

&lt;em&gt;For the kids, we captured a giant squid and put a saddle on it. Each child will get a 15 minute ride, or shorter if its hungry, on the back of Architeuthis around the harbor. So the last part isn&#039;t true but you will no doubt have fun and be in awe. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone bother to look at that site reporting this?  The prior article is about kids getting rides on Giant Squids:</p>
<p><em>For the kids, we captured a giant squid and put a saddle on it. Each child will get a 15 minute ride, or shorter if its hungry, on the back of Architeuthis around the harbor. So the last part isn&#8217;t true but you will no doubt have fun and be in awe. </em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3920032', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 03:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Im an ex-patriot, I just havent moved yet!!!!!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Im an ex-patriot, I just havent moved yet!!!!!</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3863649', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tigerclaw</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/12/the-army-now-admits/comment-page-4/#comment-3860117</link>
		<dc:creator>Tigerclaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The aft hull section including the reactor compartment and engine room is located in a separate trench that was formed by the impact of the hull section with the bottom. The aft section of the engine room is inserted forward into a larger diameter hull section in a manner similar to a telescope. There were two Mark 45 ASTOR torpedoes with nuclear warheads aboard SCORPION when she was lost in 1968. The warheads were low-yield tactical nuclear weapons. The special nuclear material from the warheads has not been recovered.  Pu239 has a 24,100 year Â½ life.
The half life of uranium is 760 million years.
So who is going to be watching this stuff decay? Should our kids do it or should their kids?&quot;

?  -   Someone is more concerned about the nuclear warheads, than the REACTOR?  OY-VEY!  If a nuclear sub in port at Norfolk were to accidently sheer the reactor, everyone in the area would be dead right quick.  As it stands, the scorpion is two miles underwater where the temp hovers in the upper thirties. (F)

That and Pu, is the atomic symbol for Plutonium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium
&quot;All isotopes and compounds of plutonium are toxic and radioactive. While plutonium is sometimes described in media reports as &quot;the most toxic substance known to man&quot;, from the standpoint of literal toxicity this is incorrect. As of 2006, there has yet to be a single human death officially attributed to exposure to plutonium itself (with the exception of plutonium-related criticality accidents). Naturally-occurring radium is about 200 times more radiotoxic than plutonium, and some organic toxins like botulin toxin are still more toxic. Botulin toxin, in particular, has a lethal dose of 300 pg per kg of body weight, far less than the quantity of plutonium that poses a significant cancer risk. In addition, beta and gamma emitters (including the carbon-14 and potassium-40 in nearly all food) can cause cancer on casual contact, which alpha emitters cannot.

When taken in by mouth, plutonium is less poisonous (except for risk of causing cancer) than several common substances including caffeine, acetaminophen, some vitamins, pseudoephedrine, and any number of plants and fungi. It is perhaps somewhat more poisonous than pure ethanol, but less so than tobacco; and many illegal drugs. From a purely chemical standpoint, it is about as poisonous as lead and other heavy metals. Not surprisingly, it has a metallic taste.[14]

 
Glowing hot bits of plutonium in a box, which have been set alight due to plutonium&#039;s pyrophoric nature.That said, there is no doubt that plutonium may be extremely dangerous when handled incorrectly. The alpha radiation it emits does not penetrate the skin, but can irradiate internal organs when plutonium is inhaled or ingested. Particularly at risk are the skeleton, where it is likely to be absorbed by the bone surface, and the liver, where it will likely collect and become concentrated. Approximately 0.008 microcuries absorbed in bone marrow is the maximum withstandable dose. Anything more is considered toxic. Extremely fine particles of plutonium (on the order of micrograms) can cause lung cancer if inhaled.&quot;



Anyway: Knowledge is power.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium#Exposure
&quot;Effects
The greatest health risk from large intakes of uranium is toxic damage to the kidneys, because, in addition to being weakly radioactive, uranium is a toxic metal.[49][50][10] Uranium is a reproductive toxicant.[51] Radiological effects are generally local because this is the nature of alpha radiation, the primary form from U-238 decay. No human cancer has been seen as a result of exposure to natural or depleted uranium,[52] but exposure to some of its decay products, especially radon, does pose a significant health threat.[7] Exposure to strontium-90, iodine-131, and other fission products is unrelated to uranium exposure, but may result from medical procedures or exposure to spent reactor fuel or fallout from nuclear weapons.[53] Although accidental inhalation exposure to a high concentration of uranium hexafluoride has resulted in human fatalities, those deaths were not associated with uranium itself.[54] Finely-divided uranium metal presents a fire hazard because uranium is pyrophoric, so small grains will ignite spontaneously in air at room temperature.[3]&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The aft hull section including the reactor compartment and engine room is located in a separate trench that was formed by the impact of the hull section with the bottom. The aft section of the engine room is inserted forward into a larger diameter hull section in a manner similar to a telescope. There were two Mark 45 ASTOR torpedoes with nuclear warheads aboard SCORPION when she was lost in 1968. The warheads were low-yield tactical nuclear weapons. The special nuclear material from the warheads has not been recovered.  Pu239 has a 24,100 year Â½ life.<br />
The half life of uranium is 760 million years.<br />
So who is going to be watching this stuff decay? Should our kids do it or should their kids?&#8221;</p>
<p>?  &#8211;   Someone is more concerned about the nuclear warheads, than the REACTOR?  OY-VEY!  If a nuclear sub in port at Norfolk were to accidently sheer the reactor, everyone in the area would be dead right quick.  As it stands, the scorpion is two miles underwater where the temp hovers in the upper thirties. (F)</p>
<p>That and Pu, is the atomic symbol for Plutonium<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium</a><br />
&#8220;All isotopes and compounds of plutonium are toxic and radioactive. While plutonium is sometimes described in media reports as &#8220;the most toxic substance known to man&#8221;, from the standpoint of literal toxicity this is incorrect. As of 2006, there has yet to be a single human death officially attributed to exposure to plutonium itself (with the exception of plutonium-related criticality accidents). Naturally-occurring radium is about 200 times more radiotoxic than plutonium, and some organic toxins like botulin toxin are still more toxic. Botulin toxin, in particular, has a lethal dose of 300 pg per kg of body weight, far less than the quantity of plutonium that poses a significant cancer risk. In addition, beta and gamma emitters (including the carbon-14 and potassium-40 in nearly all food) can cause cancer on casual contact, which alpha emitters cannot.</p>
<p>When taken in by mouth, plutonium is less poisonous (except for risk of causing cancer) than several common substances including caffeine, acetaminophen, some vitamins, pseudoephedrine, and any number of plants and fungi. It is perhaps somewhat more poisonous than pure ethanol, but less so than tobacco; and many illegal drugs. From a purely chemical standpoint, it is about as poisonous as lead and other heavy metals. Not surprisingly, it has a metallic taste.[14]</p>
<p>Glowing hot bits of plutonium in a box, which have been set alight due to plutonium&#8217;s pyrophoric nature.That said, there is no doubt that plutonium may be extremely dangerous when handled incorrectly. The alpha radiation it emits does not penetrate the skin, but can irradiate internal organs when plutonium is inhaled or ingested. Particularly at risk are the skeleton, where it is likely to be absorbed by the bone surface, and the liver, where it will likely collect and become concentrated. Approximately 0.008 microcuries absorbed in bone marrow is the maximum withstandable dose. Anything more is considered toxic. Extremely fine particles of plutonium (on the order of micrograms) can cause lung cancer if inhaled.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway: Knowledge is power.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium#Exposure" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium#Exposure</a><br />
&#8220;Effects<br />
The greatest health risk from large intakes of uranium is toxic damage to the kidneys, because, in addition to being weakly radioactive, uranium is a toxic metal.[49][50][10] Uranium is a reproductive toxicant.[51] Radiological effects are generally local because this is the nature of alpha radiation, the primary form from U-238 decay. No human cancer has been seen as a result of exposure to natural or depleted uranium,[52] but exposure to some of its decay products, especially radon, does pose a significant health threat.[7] Exposure to strontium-90, iodine-131, and other fission products is unrelated to uranium exposure, but may result from medical procedures or exposure to spent reactor fuel or fallout from nuclear weapons.[53] Although accidental inhalation exposure to a high concentration of uranium hexafluoride has resulted in human fatalities, those deaths were not associated with uranium itself.[54] Finely-divided uranium metal presents a fire hazard because uranium is pyrophoric, so small grains will ignite spontaneously in air at room temperature.[3]&#8220;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3860117', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: freedomrings</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedomrings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Comment by Jayne Peralta â€” June 14, 2007 @ 8:11 pm&lt;/em&gt;

Dumping in the ocean began at the dawn of the industrial revolution. Over time the practice expanded. After every war the military would deep 6 everything. Today we shoot depleted uranium in Iraq by the ton. The expression that fits our situation the best is, â€œWe crossed the Rubicon and there is no turning back!â€

We canâ€™t possibly clean this entire mess up and we continue to add to it. Enjoy your life and live each day like it is our last! We canâ€™t sue the military since that would not solve the main problems and we canâ€™t find any place to store the stuff even if we could recover it all.

The major cause of all of our pain is energy or the lack of it and the industrialization needed and made by that energy. Chemical weapons were made to kill because nations fight over recourses like land, people, food, water, water rights, mineral rights and energy. If you want to live donâ€™t eat seafood, donâ€™t swim in the oceans, stay away from crowds of people and run for the hills since people no longer fit in nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Comment by Jayne Peralta â€” June 14, 2007 @ 8:11 pm</em></p>
<p>Dumping in the ocean began at the dawn of the industrial revolution. Over time the practice expanded. After every war the military would deep 6 everything. Today we shoot depleted uranium in Iraq by the ton. The expression that fits our situation the best is, â€œWe crossed the Rubicon and there is no turning back!â€</p>
<p>We canâ€™t possibly clean this entire mess up and we continue to add to it. Enjoy your life and live each day like it is our last! We canâ€™t sue the military since that would not solve the main problems and we canâ€™t find any place to store the stuff even if we could recover it all.</p>
<p>The major cause of all of our pain is energy or the lack of it and the industrialization needed and made by that energy. Chemical weapons were made to kill because nations fight over recourses like land, people, food, water, water rights, mineral rights and energy. If you want to live donâ€™t eat seafood, donâ€™t swim in the oceans, stay away from crowds of people and run for the hills since people no longer fit in nature.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3858973', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jayne Peralta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayne Peralta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would Ron Paul do if elected President?

Jayne Peralta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would Ron Paul do if elected President?</p>
<p>Jayne Peralta<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3858662', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jayne Peralta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayne Peralta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is sickening behavior on behalf of our country! How on earth do we hold our government/military accountable for this type of B.S.

I hate feeling even remotely connected to this by being an American citizen and what&#039;s worse is that I&#039;m not educated in how to create and end to this type of reckless behavior!

Please advise . . .

Jayne Peralta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is sickening behavior on behalf of our country! How on earth do we hold our government/military accountable for this type of B.S.</p>
<p>I hate feeling even remotely connected to this by being an American citizen and what&#8217;s worse is that I&#8217;m not educated in how to create and end to this type of reckless behavior!</p>
<p>Please advise . . .</p>
<p>Jayne Peralta<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3858660', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the Dems will leap into in-action by doing nothing as usual. Ooooh, I knowperhaps they can hold a no-confidence vote in the army.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the Dems will leap into in-action by doing nothing as usual. Ooooh, I knowperhaps they can hold a no-confidence vote in the army.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3857918', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: freedomrings</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedomrings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.nickelinstitute.org/index.cfm/ci_id/14231/la_id/1.htm</description>
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		<title>By: freedomrings</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedomrings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Itâ€™s a big, deep ocean. Got a safer idea on how to dispose of the kind of amounts of the dangerous stuff weâ€™re talking about?

Comment by Greg â€” June 14, 2007 @ 12:39 pm&lt;/em&gt;

How is this blast from the past??

&quot;Make Love Not War!&quot;

Seriously, if we are to survive we must retrieve all of this waste and use the current disposal methods like

http://www.nickelinstitute.org/ index.cfm/ ci_id/ 14231/ la_id/ 1.htm


And cease adding to the things we have no solutions for. Those items like nuclear we are married to for thousands of years to come. 

All the while we are running out of energy so maintaining nuclear waste at some point will be impossible.

We must conserve all resources and put everything into FOOD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Itâ€™s a big, deep ocean. Got a safer idea on how to dispose of the kind of amounts of the dangerous stuff weâ€™re talking about?</p>
<p>Comment by Greg â€” June 14, 2007 @ 12:39 pm</em></p>
<p>How is this blast from the past??</p>
<p>&#8220;Make Love Not War!&#8221;</p>
<p>Seriously, if we are to survive we must retrieve all of this waste and use the current disposal methods like</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nickelinstitute.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nickelinstitute.org/</a> index.cfm/ ci_id/ 14231/ la_id/ 1.htm</p>
<p>And cease adding to the things we have no solutions for. Those items like nuclear we are married to for thousands of years to come. </p>
<p>All the while we are running out of energy so maintaining nuclear waste at some point will be impossible.</p>
<p>We must conserve all resources and put everything into FOOD<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3857553', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a big, deep ocean. Got a safer idea on how to dispose of the kind of amounts of the dangerous stuff we&#039;re talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a big, deep ocean. Got a safer idea on how to dispose of the kind of amounts of the dangerous stuff we&#8217;re talking about?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3857502', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not the first time stuff has been dumped. Tons of stuff was dumped after the 2nd World War.

BP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not the first time stuff has been dumped. Tons of stuff was dumped after the 2nd World War.</p>
<p>BP<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3857114', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Larson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 07:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While this undoubtedly sucks, it should be noted that in those locations, almost all the materials which didn&#039;t sink to the bottom and stay there would move east towards Europe. The long long journey through the ocean would dissipate much of it to below-toxic concentrations. So while this still totally sucks, at least you don&#039;t need to imagine that all this stuff made a bee-line for NYC or something.

Repeat: Still totally sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While this undoubtedly sucks, it should be noted that in those locations, almost all the materials which didn&#8217;t sink to the bottom and stay there would move east towards Europe. The long long journey through the ocean would dissipate much of it to below-toxic concentrations. So while this still totally sucks, at least you don&#8217;t need to imagine that all this stuff made a bee-line for NYC or something.</p>
<p>Repeat: Still totally sucks.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3857032', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Charbroiled Suncotton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charbroiled Suncotton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 04:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not fair!  That is SO much worse than L.S.D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not fair!  That is SO much worse than L.S.D.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3856931', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 04:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please take a look at http://scienceblogs.com/deepseanews/2007/06/munitions_dumping_at_sea.php for more maps and different comments. Scientists or politicos gone amuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please take a look at <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deepseanews/2007/06/munitions_dumping_at_sea.php" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/deepseanews/2007/06/munitions_dumping_at_sea.php</a> for more maps and different comments. Scientists or politicos gone amuck.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3856919', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: PatSu</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/12/the-army-now-admits/comment-page-4/#comment-3856668</link>
		<dc:creator>PatSu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 01:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has to be the awfuliest thing I have ever heard of.Who&#039;s decision was this?Bush&#039;s?  I think this is a war on the U.S. from within the U.S. Somebody will have to pay for this one. Dumping that stuff, will kill off fish ,sea life,humans,Is there a mad scientist on the loose? The news media has to get onto this one.
Where is GreenPeace???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has to be the awfuliest thing I have ever heard of.Who&#8217;s decision was this?Bush&#8217;s?  I think this is a war on the U.S. from within the U.S. Somebody will have to pay for this one. Dumping that stuff, will kill off fish ,sea life,humans,Is there a mad scientist on the loose? The news media has to get onto this one.<br />
Where is GreenPeace???<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3856668', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: freedomrings</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/12/the-army-now-admits/comment-page-4/#comment-3856566</link>
		<dc:creator>freedomrings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt; You seem to have some expertise here. I have been reading for a year or 2 now while at my families beach home in southern Jersey that VX is being disposed in the bay. How does this differ from Mustard gas and what info do you have on its breakdown? I have no doubt that gov scientists have deemed this okay but so did we think of PCB, methyl eythl ketone, and all of the rest. No amount of studies can predict the synergistic and unintended consequences. I an no alrmist but havenâ€™t we learned from past mistakes. I once worked as a chemist measuring heavy metal contanimation in lobsters harvested near the Portsmouth (NH, ME) shipyard. The â€œlegalâ€ disposal made those critters pretty toxic.

Comment by dbadass â€” June 13, 2007 @ 4:27 pm&lt;/em&gt;
Well in short VX is bad news! As it happens here is a process that can be used
http://www.nickelinstitute.org/index.cfm/ci_id/14231/la_id/1.htm
VX is not water soluble and here is some direct dataâ€¦
The best way to sum it all up is that ocean plants and animals cannot tolerate these chemicals. The EPA would measure parts per million and establish an acceptable tolerance allowed that is greater than the existing ratio. Should the level rise to be the same or greater the EPA would simply establish a new limit of acceptability. Ultimately the oceans will be too toxic to support much life if any and our work will be done.

&lt;em&gt; The radioactive stuff goes back to before 1962.

Comment by jimmyl â€” June 13, 2007 @ 4:38 pm&lt;/em&gt;

May 22, 1968/At Sea, Atlantic: 

The submarine USS SCORPION (SSN-589) sank May 22, 1968 in more than 10,000 feet of water about 400 miles southwest of the Azores. SCORPION is in two major sections. The forward hull section including the torpedo room and most of the operations compartment is located in a trench that was formed by the impact of the hull section with the bottom. The sail is detached. The aft hull section including the reactor compartment and engine room is located in a separate trench that was formed by the impact of the hull section with the bottom. The aft section of the engine room is inserted forward into a larger diameter hull section in a manner similar to a telescope. There were two Mark 45 ASTOR torpedoes with nuclear warheads aboard SCORPION when she was lost in 1968. The warheads were low-yield tactical nuclear weapons. The special nuclear material from the warheads has not been recovered.

Pu239 has a 24,100 year Â½ life.
The half life of uranium is 760 million years.
So who is going to be watching this stuff decay? Should our kids do it or should their kids?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> You seem to have some expertise here. I have been reading for a year or 2 now while at my families beach home in southern Jersey that VX is being disposed in the bay. How does this differ from Mustard gas and what info do you have on its breakdown? I have no doubt that gov scientists have deemed this okay but so did we think of PCB, methyl eythl ketone, and all of the rest. No amount of studies can predict the synergistic and unintended consequences. I an no alrmist but havenâ€™t we learned from past mistakes. I once worked as a chemist measuring heavy metal contanimation in lobsters harvested near the Portsmouth (NH, ME) shipyard. The â€œlegalâ€ disposal made those critters pretty toxic.</p>
<p>Comment by dbadass â€” June 13, 2007 @ 4:27 pm</em><br />
Well in short VX is bad news! As it happens here is a process that can be used<br />
<a href="http://www.nickelinstitute.org/index.cfm/ci_id/14231/la_id/1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nickelinstitute.org/index.cfm/ci_id/14231/la_id/1.htm</a><br />
VX is not water soluble and here is some direct dataâ€¦<br />
The best way to sum it all up is that ocean plants and animals cannot tolerate these chemicals. The EPA would measure parts per million and establish an acceptable tolerance allowed that is greater than the existing ratio. Should the level rise to be the same or greater the EPA would simply establish a new limit of acceptability. Ultimately the oceans will be too toxic to support much life if any and our work will be done.</p>
<p><em> The radioactive stuff goes back to before 1962.</p>
<p>Comment by jimmyl â€” June 13, 2007 @ 4:38 pm</em></p>
<p>May 22, 1968/At Sea, Atlantic: </p>
<p>The submarine USS SCORPION (SSN-589) sank May 22, 1968 in more than 10,000 feet of water about 400 miles southwest of the Azores. SCORPION is in two major sections. The forward hull section including the torpedo room and most of the operations compartment is located in a trench that was formed by the impact of the hull section with the bottom. The sail is detached. The aft hull section including the reactor compartment and engine room is located in a separate trench that was formed by the impact of the hull section with the bottom. The aft section of the engine room is inserted forward into a larger diameter hull section in a manner similar to a telescope. There were two Mark 45 ASTOR torpedoes with nuclear warheads aboard SCORPION when she was lost in 1968. The warheads were low-yield tactical nuclear weapons. The special nuclear material from the warheads has not been recovered.</p>
<p>Pu239 has a 24,100 year Â½ life.<br />
The half life of uranium is 760 million years.<br />
So who is going to be watching this stuff decay? Should our kids do it or should their kids?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3856566', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6199999990777779813&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to impeach Bush and Cheney&lt;/a&gt;
Please take part if you agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6199999990777779813" rel="nofollow">How to impeach Bush and Cheney</a><br />
Please take part if you agree.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3856341', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look to the Dwight David Eisenhower Administration for authorizing the deep water dumping of radioactive waste. I&#039;d have to find an old Jane&#039;s Fighting Ships to identify the landing ships tank (LSTs) that were modified for this task. Probably 1960-1955 time span.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look to the Dwight David Eisenhower Administration for authorizing the deep water dumping of radioactive waste. I&#8217;d have to find an old Jane&#8217;s Fighting Ships to identify the landing ships tank (LSTs) that were modified for this task. Probably 1960-1955 time span.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3856199', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jimmyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimmyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The radioactive stuff goes back to before 1962.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The radioactive stuff goes back to before 1962.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3856177', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>freedomrings:
You seem to have some expertise here. I have been reading for a year or 2 now while at my families beach home in southern Jersey that VX is being disposed in the bay. How does this differ from Mustard gas and what info do you have on its breakdown? I have no doubt that gov scientists have deemed this okay but so did we think of PCB, methyl eythl ketone, and all of the rest. No amount of studies can predict the synergistic and unintended consequences. I an no alrmist but haven&#039;t we learned from past mistakes. I once worked as a chemist measuring heavy metal contanimation in lobsters harvested near the Portsmouth (NH, ME) shipyard. The &quot;legal&quot; disposal made those critters pretty toxic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>freedomrings:<br />
You seem to have some expertise here. I have been reading for a year or 2 now while at my families beach home in southern Jersey that VX is being disposed in the bay. How does this differ from Mustard gas and what info do you have on its breakdown? I have no doubt that gov scientists have deemed this okay but so did we think of PCB, methyl eythl ketone, and all of the rest. No amount of studies can predict the synergistic and unintended consequences. I an no alrmist but haven&#8217;t we learned from past mistakes. I once worked as a chemist measuring heavy metal contanimation in lobsters harvested near the Portsmouth (NH, ME) shipyard. The &#8220;legal&#8221; disposal made those critters pretty toxic.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3856153', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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