Gay Marriage Foe Bob Barr Calls For Repeal Of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’
Gay Marriage Foe Bob Barr Calls For Repeal Of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’
Former congressman Bob Barr (R-GA), a well-known and outspoken conservative, is, as he puts it, “hardly a card-carrying member of the gay-rights lobby.” He authored the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, which declared that states did not need to recognize legal same-sex marriages from other states. In 1996, he argued that homosexual relations were “bizarre”:
“The homosexual agenda calls for taking these so-called marriage licenses to the mainland and the other 50 states, the other 49 states, and trying to force these other states, the citizens of these other states, to accept their bizarre view of marriage.” [CBS This Morning, 12/4/96]
Yet even Barr recognizes the damage the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy has had on our overstretched military. In a Wall Street Journal op-ed today, Barr declares his opposition to the policy and encourages other conservatives to call for its repeal:
As a conservative Republican member of Congress from 1995 to 2003, I was hardly a card-carrying member of the gay-rights lobby. I opposed then, and continue to oppose, same-sex marriage, or the designation of gays as a constitutionally protected minority class. Service in the armed forces is another matter. The bottom line here is that, with nearly a decade and a half of the hybrid “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy to guide us, I have become deeply impressed with the growing weight of credible military opinion which concludes that allowing gays to serve openly in the military does not pose insurmountable problems for the good order and discipline of the services. […]
Because the military can’t fill its slots, it has lowered its standards, extended tours of duty and increased rotations, further hurting morale and readiness. Conservatives are supposed to favor meritocracy — rewarding ability — especially in the armed forces. Instead, the military is firing badly needed, capable troops simply because they’re gay, and replacing them with a hodge podge that includes ex-cons, drug abusers and high-school dropouts.
“Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” is weakening our national security. Since the policy was instituted, at least 11,000 servicemembers, hundreds of whom had key speciality skills such as training in Arabic, have left the military. Currently in the midst of a readiness crisis, the military could attract as many as 41,000 new recruits if gays could serve openly.
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all policies in this country that are based on race, religion, gender, sexual preference and the like - need to be ended now.
Don’t ask don’t tell gives a part of the federal government the power to fire people based on who they sleep with. That’s not equal protection under the law!
As far as gay marriage - if we are to truly “protect” marriage and ensure equal rights for everyone, we need to get the government OUT of the marriage business altogether.
Some follow up reading:
June 13th, 2007 at 12:21 pm“Here’s How to Defend Marriage”
http://www.populistamerica.com/here_s_how_to_defend_marriage
All the gays I know are built like athletes. Most straights I know couldn’t make it through basic. This is a no-brainer. If the Israeli army can win with gays, so can we.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:21 pm.
Equal opportunity cannon fodder.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:23 pmThis explains why most of the conservatives in the Bush Administration didn’t serve in the military.
They were Gay.
Those were the ‘other priorities’ that Cheney spoke about.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:24 pmWell there would appear to be a massive difference between US and Israeli attitudes towards homosexuals in the military.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:26 pmEspecially if Israel has allowed it since the 60’s. You did refer to them winning something right ?
What ? Mandatory stuttering lessons ?
June 13th, 2007 at 12:28 pmThe older Barr gets, the more he sounds like a Democrat. Give him another 20 years.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:28 pmLet me get this “straight”… gay people in Bob Barr’s home state of Georgia can be denied employment, housing and partner rights simply for being gay… but gay people are OK to fight for the RIGHTS held by others in this country? Screw Bob Barr… until we are considered equal under the law… go protect yourself!
June 13th, 2007 at 12:29 pmWhat ? Mandatory stuttering lessons ?
Comment by Kilo — June 13, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
No mandatory ass-kickings (no homo) by the straight soldiers who hate the gaze!
June 13th, 2007 at 12:30 pmSurely Cheney gets a pass for being able to have a kid 9 months to the day after he needed one. The second he wanted his wife pregnant she was.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:31 pmSo this bozo thinks it is OK for gays to get blown up in Iraq but it is not OK for them to get married? Next he’ll be advocating putting all the gays on the front lines.
What an ass.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:32 pmMr. Barr would you like some cheese to go with that whine? There are not enough gays to save bush’s ass. Time for a draft, to include bush’s whorish daughters. And lets not forget they are also drunks, just like bush is.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:32 pmSeriously, the place is getting cooler all the time. Just the other day I was hit by a snowball in the face. It nearly broke my horns.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:33 pm– Devil’s Complaints about Hell’s Cooling Problems
Is is just me, or is he saying that he changed his views in part because the military can’t meet recruiting targets?
I’m open to giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I want to be sure he has changed his view on principle, not due to expedience.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:34 pmhundreds of whom had with key speciality skills such as training in Arabic, have left the military.
Still persisting with this misleading statement I see.
Way to copy/paste there without checking your source or thinking for yourself there pal.
Amazing how you’ve got the same exact generosity the other TP authors do when it comes to claims on their blog which they don’t extend to anyone else when it comes to making claims of connections like this.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:35 pmGuess that they are running out of the poor, desperate, and down trodden.
Send in the fags!
(issued in FULL SARCASM, by the way)
June 13th, 2007 at 12:37 pmhundreds of whom had with key speciality skills such as training in Arabic, have left the military.
Still persisting with this misleading statement I see.
Way to copy/paste there without checking your source or thinking for yourself there pal.
Amazing how you’ve got the same exact generosity the other TP authors do when it comes to claims on their blog which they don’t extend to anyone else when it comes to making claims of connections like this.
Comment by Kilo — June 13, 2007 @ 12:35 pm
I know, what is it, you HAVE to be a gay if you want to learn Arabic?????
June 13th, 2007 at 12:38 pmScrew Bob Barr… until we are considered equal under the law… go protect yourself!
Comment by GAY! — June 13, 2007 @ 12:29 pm
Just make sure it’s a safe, heterosexual screwing.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:38 pm/sarcasm
So he is changing his views because recruiting numbers are down.
By this logic, since marriage numbers are way down
June 13th, 2007 at 12:39 pm(http://hismove.com/blog/married-couples-now-in-the-minority-of-us-homes/) he should be FOR gay marriage.
Bob Barr can rot. Sure gays, go fight and die for the rights of this country… the same rights Barr wants to deny you.
right…
what a jackass
June 13th, 2007 at 12:40 pmMr. President,
I think you’ll be shocked to find out that gay men, like heterosexual men, aren’t necessarily weaklings. It will certainly be embarassing, unfortuntely, when the first military ‘tough guy’ gets his ass kicked by a gay man.
You are an obvious bigot. You equate gay, with weak.
Funny, because I equate you, with DUMB!!!
June 13th, 2007 at 12:40 pmblah, blah, gayz…blah, blah, pussification…blah, blah, misleading…blah, blah, have to be gay…blah, blah, ad nauseum…
June 13th, 2007 at 12:42 pmI googled this guy, pretty much of a racist radical christian type…
June 13th, 2007 at 12:43 pmHis former district (7) in Georgia is a hoot, talk about gerrymandering!It forms nearly a circle around the outside of Atlanta….
Daryll? Where are you bud? This is one topic right up your, er, um…….alley.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:43 pmEspecially if Israel has allowed it since the 60’s. You did refer to them winning something right ?
Something like the Six-Day War? The Yom-Kippur War?
June 13th, 2007 at 12:44 pm.
I wonder why Representative Barr has decided to give up his beliefs on homosexuality? Was he lobbied by someone from the Democratic party? I will continue to write my Senator to ensure that the “Dont ask, Don’t tell” military clause is upheld. We do not want to cause a conflict of sexuality between our troops, especially the male soldiers. Homosexuals, read the word of God and divert from your wicked ways. Jesus is coming soon.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:45 pmConservatives are people too. They’re just 50-100 years behind the rest of us.
By the way, what is a “constitutionally protected minority class”? The constitution does not protect “classes”. It protects citizens. It guarantees equal treatment under the law for citizens. Yes, gays are citizens. Read the 14th Amendment PLEASE.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:45 pmEither that or we can look forward to the pussification of our armed forces.
Comment by Mr. President — June 13, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
Why not, we have already seen the pussification of the Republican party. And you guys are well on your way to screwing up the military.
So, are all you closeted log cabin trolls gonna sign up to help pussify the military?
June 13th, 2007 at 12:47 pmBarr doesn’t appear to be relevant to that equation, so I think you’ve misidentified who are the idiots here.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:47 pmSo this bozo thinks it is OK for gays to get blown up in Iraq but it is not OK for them to get married? Next he’ll be advocating putting all the gays on the front lines.
What an ass.
Comment by Tex64 — June 13, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
NO, it is not okay for homosexuals to have marital relations (Read Leviticus and Romans). Tex64, are you a christian?
June 13th, 2007 at 12:48 pmComment by Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 12:45 pm
Once again, Daryll shows up when he hears the word gay. Right on cue.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:48 pmYeah that was what I was talking about. Got the point yet ?
June 13th, 2007 at 12:50 pmWhat exactly is the “homosexual agenda”? Only a mixed up, wanna come outta the closest but living the hetero lifestyle male would think gays have some sort of agenda. (right, st. daryll?)
Just for the record, those of you not on my patented “Snore List”, during the heat of a battle, at that moment, I really don’t give a flyin’ f*ck what your sexual orientation is/was! Know how to aim and shoot? (no pun intended). Good! I’ll protect, you protect.
End of story.
hackerbob? Why is/has this ever been an issue? Most gays have no interest in heteros (and vice versa). In my opinion, only the insecure or confused would have such an unfounded fear.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:51 pmOf course, the testosterone filled atmosophere of the military (comparable to a fraternity party) could be hell for the non Rob Halford type gays.
Just ramblin’…
So, Daryll is going to quote Leviticus.
Tell us then oh blessed saint Daryll, how much should I sell my slaves for? Should I treat my slaves as my own sons and daughters. What is the problem with me beating my wife with a stick larger than my thumb? I mean some guys have bigger thumbs than and get to beat their wifes with them. What about selling my daughter? Should I check ou tthe family that is going to buy her or not. And is 5 cows enough to trade for her or should I get more?
June 13th, 2007 at 12:51 pmWay to copy/paste there without checking your source or thinking for yourself there pal.
A source like … the GAO?
The military services separated 9,488 members9 pursuant to the
June 13th, 2007 at 12:52 pmhomosexual conduct policy statute from fiscal year 1994 through fiscal
year 2003, some of whom were in critical occupations or had important
foreign language skills. Seven hundred fifty-seven (about 8 percent) of
these separated servicemembers held critical occupations10 (“voice
interceptor,†“data processing technician,†or “interpreter/translatorâ€), as
defined by the services. About 59 percent of the members with critical
occupations who were separated for homosexual conduct were separated
during their first 2.5 years of service, which is about 1.5 years before the
expiration of the initial service contract of most enlistees. Such contracts
are typically for 4 years. Also, 322 members (about 3 percent) had some
skills in an important foreign language such as Arabic, Farsi, and Korean.11 A total of 98 members separated under the homosexual conduct policy statute completed language training at the Defense Language Institute and received a proficiency rating; 62 members, or 63 percent, were at or below the midpoint on DOD’s listening, reading, or speaking proficiency scales.12
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So Daryll is selectively using 2000 year old Biblical passages to justify his bigotry again… (yawn)
June 13th, 2007 at 12:52 pmYeah that was what I was talking about. Got the point yet ?
Yeah: gay Jews kick ass.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:52 pm.
Once again, Daryll shows up when he hears the word gay. Right on cue.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
It’s like letting out the sun every morning…. :D
June 13th, 2007 at 12:52 pmDaryll has very finely tuned gaydar.
And Mr. President sir, with all due respect, thou protesteth too much, methinks.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:54 pmTex64, are you a christian?
Comment by St. Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
so sayeth the member of a cult who feel women are inferior.
and for the record,
true believers capitalize Christians, out of honor and respect.
then again, you’ve been provent to be a blind follower, and not a leader (true believer)
just still ramblin….
June 13th, 2007 at 12:54 pmThat would have been the infamous Paperback Offensive of 1985 in the Iraqi marshlands. Terrible, terrible losses.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:54 pmIf only Saddam didn’t have that shredder Glen Reynolds keeps reminding everyone about.
If we want a “feared and robust” military like the UK and Germany, we should encourage military people to allow openly gay people to serve!! [sarcasm off]
June 13th, 2007 at 12:55 pmNO, it is not okay for homosexuals to have marital relations (Read Leviticus and Romans). Tex64, are you a christian?
Do you eat shrimp? If so, I’ll send a priest right over to execute you.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:55 pm.
“If we want a “feared and robust†military like the UK and Germany, we should encourage military people to allow openly gay people to serve!! [intelligence off]”
Fixed.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:56 pmExcept for the past 20 years when they’ve spent sucking said arse.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:57 pma hodge podge that includes ex-cons, drug abusers and high-school dropouts.
He just couldn’t do it. That man can’t have a complete thought without offending one of my sensibilities.
So now high-school dropouts are the same as ex-cons and drug abusers?
I wouldn’t be surprised if the reason he wants to do this is so that there are fewer gays in his state. What could be better for him than for the people he hates to go enlist and get killed?
Seriously, is there anyone who thinks Bob Barrf has the rights of gays in mind when he spews? At best, he’s trying to curry favor with the “we can win” crowd and still politically join the winning side. I have no illusions about him turning over a new leaf. This guy is one of the few politicians who actually makes me ill, and he’s not even in office anymore. There are only two people I think deserve a bullet, and he’s one of them.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:57 pmAnd Mr. President sir, with all due respect, thou protesteth too much, methinks.
Comment by nanlichi — June 13, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
Thou don’t thinks too much, though, do ya!!!!!!!!
June 13th, 2007 at 12:58 pmMr. President - Ignore the perverse and deviant nanlicki. His/her Nativity scene beastiality comments were so pathetically sick……I try to ignore it.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:59 pmI nominate DRxJ as the wrangler in charge of Daryll.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:59 pmKilo, That is funny! Thanks for the laugh.
I ate a catfish once, but was able to pray for forgiveness before I was smote.
What is the past tense of smite anyway? Smote? Smitten? Smith and Wesson?
June 13th, 2007 at 12:59 pmBob Barr…Cut from the same Mark Foley cloth no doubt.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:59 pmMr. President - Ignore the perverse and deviant nanlicki. His/her Nativity scene beastiality comments were so pathetically sick……I try to ignore it.
Comment by valiant venus — June 13, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
Speaking of “pathetically sick,” MA, tell us another funny story about your imaginary dead kid.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:01 pmMr. President - Ignore the perverse and deviant nanlicki. His/her Nativity scene beastiality comments were so pathetically sick……I try to ignore it.
Comment by valiant venus — June 13, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
I’ll keep that in mind VV, thanks.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:01 pm“I opposed then, and continue to oppose, same-sex marriage, or the designation of gays as a constitutionally protected minority class. Service in the armed forces is another matter.”
Oh, I see, it is not all right with him for gays to have rights and privileges, but it is all right with him for gays to be cannon fodder.
What a hypocrite.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:01 pmComment by Tex64 — June 13, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
NO, it is not okay for homosexuals to have marital relations (Read Leviticus and Romans). Tex64, are you a christian?
——————————
How dare you accuse me of being a christian?!?!? (love the small case c)
Call me a fag all you want but the “c” word is hitting below the belt.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:02 pmKilo- You mean that shredder Progressives don’t credit Saddam with owning? Oh….thaaaat shredder….
Tooodles…..
June 13th, 2007 at 1:02 pmThe GOA…. that was linked as the source in highlighted text ?
What…. are the odds pal ?
Nice work doing the same thing yourself. Copy/paste it without reading it.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:02 pmWhat is the past tense of smite anyway? Smote? Smitten? Smith and Wesson?
Comment by nanlichi — June 13, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
“Smitten” means to be infatuated
June 13th, 2007 at 1:03 pm“I opposed then, and continue to oppose, same-sex marriage, or the designation of gays as a constitutionally protected minority class. Service in the armed forces is another matter.â€
Oh, I see, it is not all right with him for gays to have rights and privileges, but it is all right with him for gays to be cannon fodder.
What a hypocrite.
Comment by Katie — June 13, 2007 @ 1:01 pm
The ultimate irony of that is that then homosexuals will be able to fight and die for freedoms they don’t enjoy. That should set Bobby giggling.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:03 pmWhat are you a parrot ? I just said that.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:04 pm“No mandatory ass-kickings (no homo) by the straight soldiers who hate the gaze! Comment by Mr. President ”
Sorry troll, all polls taken of the military say that they have no problems serving alongside a gay soldier.
The people who are the most homophobic are the ones who are truly insecure about their own sexual orientation.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:05 pmExcept for the past 20 years when they’ve spent sucking said arse.
Comment by Kilo
Ah, well as anyone can see, that is entirely the fault of the gays, even though they were there before, and has nothing to do with the change from fighting armies in the Sinai and Golan to fighting insurgencies.
As the military theorist Clausewitz observed, “if you don’t like pussy, you can’t kill very well.”
June 13th, 2007 at 1:05 pm.
Mr. Incoherent, sir?
Sorry to wake you, sir, but it’s time, sir.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:06 pmSorry, sir, I know that’s a touchy subject, sir.
Actually, that’s what this afternoons briefing is about, sir.
Yes sir, that’s correct, sir, they did find your watch.
No, sir, not in good repair, sir.
Worse than that, sir, it seems it was used as a timing device in an IED.
An IED?
An explosive device, sir. That’s correct, sir, a bomb.
And one other matter, sir, Harriet just called.
Harriet, sir, Harriet Miers… your former counselor?
No sir, not the substance abuse counselor, your former legal counsel, Supreme Court nominee?
Very well, sir, I’ll relay that message….
In your exact words, sir?
Sir?
This was a stupid policy from Day 1 and Clinton never should have signed it. It was little more than a PR stunt so they could pretend they were giving gays equal rights when in reality they were ensuring gays were shut up.
The whole idea that gays can serve in the military ONLY if they don’t let anyone know they are gay is ridiculous. It’s like saying you support light but can only do so as long as everyone promises to leave the lights OFF. That’s not a policy…it’s a waste of paper.
It should definitely be repealed. If gays want to serve thier country in the military they should be rewarded, not pushed out. Especially at this time when nobody wants to enlist because of Bush.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:06 pmYou’ve lost your smittens
June 13th, 2007 at 1:06 pmyou naughty little kittens
Meow, meow, meow
The people who are the most homophobic are the ones who are truly insecure about their own sexual orientation.
Comment by Katie — June 13, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
Oh, that’s some good information you got there…
What’s all this I hear about women in the military likely to be raped or sexually assaulted/harrassed, I suppose those easy-going boys in the military are OK with the gaze, but not women???
Is that what you mean???
June 13th, 2007 at 1:07 pmNice work doing the same thing yourself. Copy/paste it without reading it.
Yeah, I read it, and you still don’t have a point, just like with the Israeli army.
There seems to be a pattern here ….
June 13th, 2007 at 1:08 pm.
Yet another RINO jumping on the homosexual agenda and ditching a fine bipartisan policy.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:08 pmThe people who are the most homophobic are the ones who are truly insecure about their own sexual orientation.
Comment by Katie — June 13, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
well said.
St.Daryll? What happened in your past that has you hating the mythical homosexual agenda?
Where you molested as a child or young adult?
Or did you experience a sexual encounter with another man….and enjoy it?
If the former, I am truly, deeply sorry, and beg you to seek professional help to purge your demons (obviously your cult can’t/won’t)
If the latter (which I believe it is), all I can say is stop being confused and stop living the lie (especially for Tiffany’s sake).
For the record, you can still be a Christian, and gay (no matter what your cult has preached to you)
..and I’m still a ramblin’
June 13th, 2007 at 1:10 pmBob Barr’s political views have changed significantly since he left Congress. He’s even campaigning for marijuana legalization now and working with the Marijuana Policy Project. Good for him. If only Democrats had the kind of courage that he has now.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:10 pmNo. The polls taken of the military say that none of them have a problem serving with straight soldier.
When asked whether they have a problem serving with gay soldiers a minority says they would have a problem with this.
That minority still represents hundreds of thousands of soldiers you risk losing to gain 11,000.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:11 pmDefensible or not, that is the math ignored here.
Test.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:11 pmThe people who are the most homophobic are the ones who are truly insecure about their own sexual orientation.
Comment by Katie — June 13, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
And they are the same ones who are too chicken sh!t to sign up for the military.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:12 pmNobody let Daryll know his test came through. Shhhhhhhh.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:12 pmThank you, Dr.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:13 pm(wink, flutter, toss………….)
Tex64, are you a christian?
Comment by St. Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
so sayeth the member of a cult who feel women are inferior.
and for the record,
true believers capitalize Christians, out of honor and respect.
then again, you’ve been provent to be a blind follower, and not a leader (true believer)
just still ramblin….
Comment by DRxJ — June 13, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
Christianity doesn’t exist. I believe in holiness (Chronicles). DRxJ, I think it’s time for you to brush up on your bible.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:14 pmDefensible or not, that is the math ignored here.
“Math”? This from the guy who thinks 322 doesn’t equal hundreds?
Geeze, anything to prop up their sick little superstitions, eh?
June 13th, 2007 at 1:14 pm.
Yeah. That you either can’t read or distinguish between numbers of different values.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:14 pmSeriously, you’ve had 2 cracks at each of those and not a clue about either of them yet eh ?
LMAO.
Only in the interest of the health and well being of others, am I informing all that Daryll tested positive.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:14 pmChristianity doesn’t exist. I believe in holiness (Chronicles). DRxJ, I think it’s time for you to brush up on your bible.
Comment by Daryll
Ohhh, now it’s on!
I’m getting popcorn!
June 13th, 2007 at 1:15 pmI nominate DRxJ as the wrangler in charge of Daryll.
Comment by Zooey — June 13, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
Zooey, until DRxJ ensures that his life is in order with Christ (and he knows what I mean), the Doctor will be considered a sinner. I can’t have a sinner in charge of me (we already have too many false prophets).
June 13th, 2007 at 1:16 pmSeriously, you’ve had 2 cracks at each of those and not a clue about either of them yet eh ?
LMAO.
Yes, I’ve gathered that you don’t have a point, but think that calling it “misleading” will magically make it go away. This is consistent with your subscription to a pathetic superstition about gays.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:17 pm.
Daryll,
Are you ever going to brush the TP dust off your sandals and quit trying to convert us to your limited, fundamentalist Christianity? If it works for you, meaning it helps you be in spiritual union with your God, great. But, you have no right or commandment to demand that other people, let alone a whole nation of people submit to your dogma.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:18 pmZooey, until DRxJ ensures that his life is in order with Christ (and he knows what I mean), the Doctor will be considered a sinner. I can’t have a sinner in charge of me (we already have too many false prophets).
Comment by Daryll
Sorry Daryll, the sinner you need to worry about is the Pastor Gino Jennings.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:19 pmChristianity doesn’t exist.
Comment by St. Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 1:14 pm
and with that, my work here is done.
by definition, Christianity is The Christian religion, founded on the life and teachings of Jesus.
St.Daryll says “the life and teachings of Jesus” do not exist.
told ya he is in a cult
June 13th, 2007 at 1:19 pmHow dare you accuse me of being a christian?!?!? (love the small case c)
Call me a fag all you want but the “c†word is hitting below the belt.
Comment by TX64 — June 13, 2007 @ 1:02 pm
Then you are basically stating that you’re doomed for hell for not following biblical standards, supporting homosexuals, supporting illegal immigration, supporting over-taxing the rich, supporting embryonic stem cell research and supporting abortion activists.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:19 pm… until we are considered equal under the law… go protect yourself!
- Comment by Gay
I’m not gay, but I tend to agree with you. Why should gays fight for America if America is not willing to fight for the rights of gays and lesbians?
June 13th, 2007 at 1:21 pmBarr must’ve gotten a terminal diagnosis from a doctor or something… he’s been acting strangely for a while now - saying things that make sense and are a good idea…
June 13th, 2007 at 1:21 pmThen you are basically stating that you’re doomed for hell for not following biblical standards, supporting homosexuals, supporting illegal immigration, supporting over-taxing the rich, supporting embryonic stem cell research and supporting abortion activists.
Comment by Daryll
Heh.
TX64, we’ll save a seat for you in hell — you can sit by Daryll if you want…
June 13th, 2007 at 1:21 pm(we already have too many false prophets).
Comment by St. Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
so sayeth the biggest false prophet of em all!
June 13th, 2007 at 1:22 pmI see that, in order to think we have to keep gays out of the military, you’d have to be too stupid to count or tell time, like Kilo.
No wonder homophobia only clings to life in undeveloped backwaters.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:24 pm.
36. I don’t think 36 equals hundreds.
Honesly, was encouraging the author once and you twice to read the source not a big enough hint ?
WTF did your tiny brain think the odds were that when someone told you to read a source you were getting wrong twice that you’d get it right if you ignored it a 3rd time ?
I have mechanic skills.
However if I were asked to apply these skills in a professional capacity on which dozens of other people depended on in a combat zone I would be kicked the fk out and in the field with a rifle with everyone else in a matter of minutes.
Pretty fkn simple stuff here. Just reading and using your head. Not asking much.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:24 pmThen you are basically stating that you’re doomed for hell for not following biblical standards, supporting homosexuals, supporting illegal immigration, supporting over-taxing the rich,
Seriously, you can’t make $hit like this up, even if you tried!
I can’t stop laughing!
I’m actually going to hell because I believe in a system that taxes the rich, well to do, to HELP the homeless, the hungry, and I’m going to hell???
Dammit, my sides hurt
June 13th, 2007 at 1:25 pmStop it St.Daryll! You’re killin’ me!!
What’s all this I hear about women in the military likely to be raped or sexually assaulted/harrassed, I suppose those easy-going boys in the military are OK with the gaze, but not women???
Is that what you mean???
Comment by Mr. President — June 13, 2007 @ 1:07 pm
Women are still more likely to be sexually harrassed and even assaulted in the workplace than men are, but that’s no reason to say “No girl.. you can’t have that job.” Homosexuals probably are most likely to be harassed, assaulted and yes, even killed in the military, but that has nothing to do with their right to be there, and should have nothing to do with prosecuting anyone who does harrass/assault/kill them while they’re their.
It doesn’t change the fact that the majority of military personell accept women in the military and will accept gays openly serving. There is no excuse for our treatment of this issue given the fact that we supposedly founded on the idea of freedom for all.
Most likely, the people who are against gays in the military know that it is the gateway to all those other rights. After all, if you allow them to fight and die for rights, then you can’t justify not giving them those same rights.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:26 pmThen you are basically stating that you’re doomed for hell for not following biblical standards, supporting homosexuals, supporting illegal immigration, supporting over-taxing the rich, supporting embryonic stem cell research and supporting abortion activists.
Comment by Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 1:19 pm
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That is satire, right? You can’t be for real.
Going to hell for supporting taxing the rich? That’s a good one! Excuse me, but I think there is a camel stuck in your needle. Haaaaaaaaa….
June 13th, 2007 at 1:26 pmI can’t have a sinner in charge of me (we already have too many false prophets).
Comment by Daryll
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We “sinners” are not trying to be in charge of you but you are certainly trying to be in charge of us. Classic projection.
Daryll, how would you cope if the majority in the U.S. voted in laws that demanded that you live your life in a way that is not compatible with your religious views? You would likely be justifiably angry, which is how we feel about you and the other fundamentalists trying to use laws to force your dogma on us.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:26 pm#29… read the word of God and divert from your wicked ways. Jesus is coming soon.
-Comment by Daryl
…You mean like, do unto other as you’d have them do unto you? That sort of thing? I can see how you use religion to justify your putrid immorality.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:26 pm36. I don’t think 36 equals hundreds.
But 36 wasn’t the number.
You lose again.
And I still want to hear how 1956 came after 1967 and 1973, but since you’re a drooling superstitious freak who can’t count or tell time, I doubt you’ll be able to tell me.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:27 pm.
The people who are the most homophobic are the ones who are truly insecure about their own sexual orientation.
Comment by Katie — June 13, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
well said.
St.Daryll? What happened in your past that has you hating the mythical homosexual agenda?
Where you molested as a child or young adult?
Or did you experience a sexual encounter with another man….and enjoy it?
If the former, I am truly, deeply sorry, and beg you to seek professional help to purge your demons (obviously your cult can’t/won’t)
If the latter (which I believe it is), all I can say is stop being confused and stop living the lie (especially for Tiffany’s sake).
For the record, you can still be a Christian, and gay (no matter what your cult has preached to you)
..and I’m still a ramblin’
Comment by DRxJ — June 13, 2007 @ 1:10 pm
DRxJ, none of the above. I was raised in a family that believes in evangelical higher learning institutions and holiness. I have never had homosexual tendencies (Thank God).
June 13th, 2007 at 1:28 pmI have never had homosexual tendencies (Thank God).
Comment by Daryll
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So, God determined that you have heterosexual desires and not homosexual tendencies. Is it such a leap to believe, then, that God gave the homosexual desires to some people?
June 13th, 2007 at 1:30 pmDaryll,
Are you ever going to brush the TP dust off your sandals and quit trying to convert us to your limited, fundamentalist Christianity? If it works for you, meaning it helps you be in spiritual union with your God, great. But, you have no right or commandment to demand that other people, let alone a whole nation of people submit to your dogma.
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) — June 13, 2007 @ 1:18 pm
Patriot, your review reminds me why our government officials should seek communism.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:30 pmOh, well. I guess Kilo has buggered off to learn to count and tell time again. And we were having so much fun!
June 13th, 2007 at 1:34 pm.
Patriot, your review reminds me why our government officials should seek communism.
Comment by Daryll
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What?????
June 13th, 2007 at 1:34 pm#29… read the word of God and divert from your wicked ways. Jesus is coming soon.
-Comment by Daryl
That’s a rather personal thing to say about Jesus, isn’t it?
June 13th, 2007 at 1:34 pmSorry Daryll, the sinner you need to worry about is the Pastor Gino Jennings.
Comment by Zooey — June 13, 2007 @ 1:19 pm
He is a true man of God. He is one of the few preachers who will preach the truth about the word of God (not for monetary purposes).
June 13th, 2007 at 1:34 pmI have never had homosexual tendencies
Comment by Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 1:28 pm
dude, I excelled in college with classes such as pyschology, and pathophysiology (disease state) and pharmacology (drug therapy) dealing with the brain.
You are screaming to be let out of the closest, but your past, for what ever reason, keeps locking the door.
and by denying that you never had homosexual tendencies, is only harming yourself.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:35 pmYou continually post on homosexual threads (sometimes in very graphic detail). Your posts are very homophobic in nature, yet you “coddle” heir Bush, who has had many homosexual issues right in his own administration.
You’ve got issues. Major issues.
I implore you to seek help.
Yeah. It is retard.
And you’ll be in for a long wait for someone to pretend they can’t read and count just to agree with you. So best of luck with that.
Again, you’ll be in for a long wait.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:35 pmEveryone apart from you realises what has been discussed. “Has” as in the past tense.
I have never had homosexual tendencies (Thank God).
Comment by Daryll
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And you bought the crystal meth from your masseur but never used it. Yeah, we get it Daryll.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:37 pmOh and one more thing:
Daryll says “I’ve never had homosexual tendencies”, yet he believes homosexuality is a choice.
How can one pick a lifestyle if one has never been given the options?
If Daryll has been given the options, when did Daryll “choose” one over the other?
BOOM!
June 13th, 2007 at 1:39 pm(that’s the sound of Saint Daryll’s brain imploding)
He is a true man of God. He is one of the few preachers who will preach the truth about the word of God (not for monetary purposes).
Comment by Daryll
Looks like quite the empire to me, gauging by the list of churchs…………
June 13th, 2007 at 1:40 pmTypical conservative thinking. Gays should be denied the same rights the rest of Americans, but it’s okay to use them as cannon fodder.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:40 pmThen you are basically stating that you’re doomed for hell for not following biblical standards, supporting homosexuals, supporting illegal immigration, supporting over-taxing the rich,
Seriously, you can’t make $hit like this up, even if you tried!
I can’t stop laughing!
I’m actually going to hell because I believe in a system that taxes the rich, well to do, to HELP the homeless, the hungry, and I’m going to hell???
Dammit, my sides hurt
Stop it St.Daryll! You’re killin’ me!!
Comment by DRxJ — June 13, 2007 @ 1:25 pm
DRxJ, this is a serious matter. The rich have earned their wealth off blood, sweat and tears. Why should we be penalized. Isn’t there a scripture in the bible that says everyone should be treated equally?
June 13th, 2007 at 1:41 pmOh, and by the way.. It’s okay for Bob Barr to have a change of heart and start doing good things, but only if he acknowleges what he did before and explain why he’s changed his tune. Otherwise, I’m not going to trust him any further than I can throw his church.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:43 pm“The rich have earned their wealth off blood, sweat and tears.”
Comment by Daryll
The rich have earned their wealth off the blood, sweat and tears of those they have been able to exploit and subjugate.
(There, fixed it for ya….. praise the lord and pass the shackles!)
June 13th, 2007 at 1:46 pmYeah. It is retard.
Oh, that was convincing. I’ve got the quote. You’ve got shit. Thanks for showing us just how ignorant a homophobe has to be.
“Has†as in the past tense.
Yes, I explored the past tense. You can’t even get the Isreali policy correct, so once again you’re an idiot who ventures nothing because you have nothing. You keep referring to what’s not here because you don’t have anything. I keep using what’s here and you keep running away.
By the way: learn to use a comma.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:46 pm.
The rich have earned their wealth off blood, sweat and tears. Why should we be penalized
Comment by St. Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
Please, please, I beg of thee! Please provide chapter and verse where Jesus preaches about not penalizing the rich to help the poor!
and I was wrong about your church, it is not just a cult….
June 13th, 2007 at 1:47 pmIt’s a psychotic cult with false witnesses galore
(I have one word of advice: DO NOT DRINK THE GRAPE KOOL-AID!!!)
DRxJ, this is a serious matter. The rich have earned their wealth off blood, sweat and tears. Why should we be penalized. Isn’t there a scripture in the bible that says everyone should be treated equally?
Comment by Daryll
Daryll, sweetie, we have something called the Constitution, not The Bible. You should check it out some time.
And you need to let us know which Biblical laws you’re currently violating. Like eating pork or shellfish? Do you have a nice long beard and long hair? Otherwise, you’re in desperate violation of Biblical laws.
You don’t get to pick and choose, Daryll. God doesn’t like it.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:47 pmHe is a true man of God. He is one of the few preachers who will preach the truth about the word of God (not for monetary purposes).
Comment by Daryll
It doesn’t look as if the Pastor Jennings buys his suits at the JC Penney, Daryll.
If you ever manage to pry your eyes open, you’re going to be sooooo disappointed. But you’ll be alright.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:49 pmTest, again.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:49 pmThe rich have earned their wealth off blood, sweat and tears. Why should we be penalized. Isn’t there a scripture in the bible that says everyone should be treated equally?
Comment by Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
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Mt 19:23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
I’ll be waiting for you in Hell.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:51 pmEven if we limit it to Arabic translators alone, the number is still higher than 36.
Is it possible that Kilo’s extra chromosome gave him three dozen digits, so that’s just as high as he can count?
June 13th, 2007 at 1:51 pm.
He is a true man of God. He is one of the few preachers who will preach the truth about the word of God (not for monetary purposes).
Comment by Daryll
It doesn’t look as if the Pastor Jennings buys his suits at the JC Penney, Daryll.
If you ever manage to pry your eyes open, you’re going to be sooooo disappointed. But you’ll be alright.
Comment by Zooey — June 13, 2007 @ 1:49 pm
Why can’t people who follow in the way of holiness wear nice suits, own nice homes, and drive Lotus automobiles?
June 13th, 2007 at 1:53 pmDRxJ, this is a serious matter. The rich have earned their wealth off blood, sweat and tears. Why should we be penalized. Isn’t there a scripture in the bible that says everyone should be treated equally?
Comment by Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
Because:
A) It’s not usually off YOUR blood sweat and tears
June 13th, 2007 at 1:53 pmand
B) Because people like me pay $3,000 dollars to a charity and it’s a months pay. Rich folk might be able to give $30,000 to charity and it’s only an hours pay, but for some reason they seem to think that makes them better than us.
and
C) Rich folk can pay to have their kids kept out of wars, and they feel that is their right.
Still testing positive, honey……..
June 13th, 2007 at 1:54 pmNo retard. You COPY/PASTED the quote. I on the other hand read it.
5 times now and you cannot bring yourself to read something you yourself quoted, even when prompted to the point of ridicule.
You do realise that I’m not calling you a retard to be rude. You have satisfied the dictionary definition here. Congrats.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:56 pmThey can fight Bob’s wars for him but have rights, out of the question.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:56 pm“and drive Lotus automobiles?”
Comment by Daryll
Please don’t dragging us into your unenlightened little corner of existence.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:57 pmWhy can’t people who follow in the way of holiness wear nice suits, own nice homes, and drive Lotus automobiles?
Comment by Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
Because you can’t act humble if you’re not. The money you use to buy the nice suits, the nice home and the Lotus isn’t yours. It came from people who paid to to Gods work. You can do Gods work just as well in a t-shirt and jeans, and you’ll get something a good suit doesn’t come with: Respect.
June 13th, 2007 at 1:58 pmDaryll thinks that homosexuality is a choice,and that he has chosen to be heterosexual. That kinda implies that Daryll has taken a walk on the wild side and chose to be hetero.
Maybe he just had a bad experience on the wild side and should give it another shot. Those homosexual encounters seemed to have really made an impression with Brother Daryll, as much as he denies it.
“The rich have earned their wealth…..” That’s an incredibly stupid statement. A good friend has several tens of millions and has NEVER worked a day in his life. His father NEVER worked a day in his life, and his two kids will probably never work either. Ain’t inheritance grand??
Most fortunes are made exploiting the resources of our country, or exploiting the vulnerabilities of our country. Tell me Halliburton hasn’t made billions off of George’s Mistake.
I pay more than $100k/year in income tax and don’t resent it a bit. We are all in this together, and I have had opportunities that the less fortunate haven’t.
Now, back to the subject of Darryl and his fear of the closet……..
June 13th, 2007 at 1:59 pmEveryone apart from you realises what has been discussed. “Has†as in the past tense.
Comment by Kilo
Uh, unless you’ve been posting under different names, Google says otherwise. So, you won this debate on gay specialists … and then you woke up in a puddle?
Figures.
Googling news articles also shows other categories that would be subsets under TP’s language, and they aren’t ‘36.’
So, you pretend to have won an argument, based on data you pretend to have, on an issue you pretend to understand, all because you subscribe to the pathetic superstition of homophobia.
That’s the first thing about you that makes sense.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:01 pm.
Why can’t people who follow in the way of holiness wear nice suits, own nice homes, and drive Lotus automobiles?
Comment by Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
Because it flies in the face of what Jesus Christ said d!ckwad. You know Jesus Christ as in Christianity is named after him? You are a fu*king idiot.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:02 pmMt 19:23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
I’ll be waiting for you in Hell.
Comment by TX64 — June 13, 2007 @ 1:51 pm
That scriptural text does not indicate that it is considered a sin to be rich, but it does indicate that it is hard for a rich person to serve God with full loyalty. We are not those type of individuals, we love the Lord with all of our heart and would give up our finances, if ordered by God.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:03 pmWhy can’t people who follow in the way of holiness wear nice suits, own nice homes, and drive Lotus automobiles?
Comment by Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
I thought old Gino didn’t do his thing for monetary gain? He’s just a humble hypocrite, right?
June 13th, 2007 at 2:05 pmLOL - 139 messages, this topic sure does yank the homophobes out of the closet.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:06 pmDRJ - A quick Question - what about the Brooks study demonstrating that Conservatives are MORE generous in their charitable contributions than progs?
“In 2000, households headed by a conservative gave, on average, 30 percent more money to charity than households headed by a liberal ($1,600 to $1,227). This discrepancy is not simply an artifact of income differences; on the contrary, liberal families earned an average of 6 percent more per year than conservative families, and conservative families gave more than liberal families within every income class, from poor to middle class to rich.”
Would it be too much to ask for libs to get out of our pockets and dig in their own?
Back on topic - Most people would never know who was who and what was what if people didn’t feel so Opraj-esque and have to SHARE all….Keep your bedroom antics to yourself….
Tooodles……
June 13th, 2007 at 2:06 pmDaryll,
I command you to give all your money to the poor!
June 13th, 2007 at 2:08 pmBecause you can’t act humble if you’re not. The money you use to buy the nice suits, the nice home and the Lotus isn’t yours. It came from people who paid to to Gods work. You can do Gods work just as well in a t-shirt and jeans, and you’ll get something a good suit doesn’t come with: Respect.
Comment by swordsbane — June 13, 2007 @ 1:58 pm
You can be financially stable and still be humble. There is proof in society.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:09 pm#126 - Get a clue (stop being such a fundamentalist! HA!) The Eye of the Needle is a gate in the old City of Jerusalem. A camel could pass thru this gate - although it was narrow….the rich have so many distractions and responsibilities that keeping one’s focus on the holy and not allowing for the distraction of the profane is challenging….
Tooodles……
June 13th, 2007 at 2:09 pmThat scriptural text does not indicate that it is considered a sin to be rich, but it does indicate that it is hard for a rich person to serve God with full loyalty. We are not those type of individuals, we love the Lord with all of our heart and would give up our finances, if ordered by God.
Comment by Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
Got a camel through the eye of a needle, did you? Or is it that you don’t really want to enter the kingdom of God??
June 13th, 2007 at 2:09 pmWe are not those type of individuals, we love the Lord with all of our heart and would give up our finances, if ordered by God.
Comment by St. Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
Why do you keep insisting to use “we” when you’re talking about beliefs?
Is it because you can’t think on your own?
Do you blindly follow whatever your cult leader says, without thinking or questioning?
You do know that true Christianity involves a humble, personal relationship with Jesus, not hiccupping talking points of what false prophets tell you to believe, don’t you!
Seriously, when offered the grape kool-aid, do a Nancy Reagan, and JUST SAY NO
June 13th, 2007 at 2:10 pm#126
If these verses, Mt 19:23&24 are important to you, perhaps these verses earlier in the chapter are also important to you.
This is from chapter 19:
http://bibleresources.bible.com/ passagesearchresults2.php?passage1=Matthew+19&book_id=47&version1=31&tp=28&c=19
“Haven’t you read,†he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.â€
Here Christ quotes from the book of Genesis. That’s the “Haven’t you read,…†part. By quoting Genesis Christ both endorses the creation story and the sexual union of a man and a woman.
If you want to reference scripture on sexual behavior, why not mention what Jesus said in the book in Matthew?
In short, Christ said the one man one woman - forever – is the best model for everyone. This arrangement was the intent of the Creator, and safeguards one’s emotional, physical, and spiritual wellbeing. It’s certainly a sure cure for AIDS.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:12 pmYou can be financially stable and still be humble. There is proof in society.
Comment by Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
Then explain to someone who gave up their own cash to serve God why it buying part of a fender on a Lotus is Gods work when a Honda Civic can work just as well and is a LOT more comfortable (yes I’ve sat in a Lotus) economical and costs less to maintain and drive.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:12 pmDRJ - A quick Question - what about the Brooks study demonstrating that Conservatives are MORE generous in their charitable contributions than progs?
“In 2000, households headed by a conservative gave, on average, 30 percent more money to charity than households headed by a liberal ($1,600 to $1,227). This discrepancy is not simply an artifact of income differences; on the contrary, liberal families earned an average of 6 percent more per year than conservative families, and conservative families gave more than liberal families within every income class, from poor to middle class to rich.â€
Would it be too much to ask for libs to get out of our pockets and dig in their own?
Back on topic - Most people would never know who was who and what was what if people didn’t feel so Opraj-esque and have to SHARE all….Keep your bedroom antics to yourself….
Tooodles……
Comment by valiant venus — June 13, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
Of course, isn’t the pot calling the kettle black? Wow, conservatives give more than liberals. Easy to believe.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:15 pmDaryll,
Give away all your money!!!!
June 13th, 2007 at 2:15 pm“If you want to reference scripture on sexual behavior,etc……….
Comment by bitblt
I’ve always rather enjoyed Song of Solomon………..
June 13th, 2007 at 2:16 pmOf course, isn’t the pot calling the kettle black? Wow, conservatives give more than liberals. Easy to believe.
Comment by Daryll — June 13, 2007 @ 2:15 pm
Only problem is… I’m not a liberal.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:17 pmwhat about the Brooks study demonstrating that Conservatives are MORE generous in their charitable contributions than progs?
Comment by valiantly mighty aphrodisiac venus — June 13, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
I dunno. but as a recent business owner, I can see where people that are well to do may be more conservative due to their insistence on a better tax break to increase their gross margins (thus put more money in their pocket). I can see it, but I don’t agree with it.
Now that I answered your question honestly, can you return the favor?
June 13th, 2007 at 2:18 pmCan you please tell us another of your dead child fantasy jokes?
I never tire of a good mythical jab at a liberal from a pretencious child whose sibling just passed away!
I don’t exist. Let it go.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:19 pmDaryll,
Jesus commanded the Apostles charged with spreading the Word to travel without food, clothes, or money as they were to receive these from those to whom they convert. If you keep trying to convert us at TP, you are going to be one of the “least of these my brethren” (hungry, naked, and poor). Time to dust off the sandals.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:19 pmGod,
You don’t exist. I wish they would let it go. We’d all be way better off.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:20 pmDoes anyone else find it disturbing that the only reason conservatives are willing to look at allowing gay and lesbian people to serve in the military is that the military is desperate for more bodies? What happens when the need is less - will discrimination again rear its ugly head.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:22 pmWow. Pastor Gino Jennings found the best sheep in the barnyard when he found Daryll.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:24 pmIt’s certainly a sure cure for AIDS.
Comment by bitblt — June 13, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
You actually presented a strong debate, until you came up with that ditty!
A sure cure for AIDS? Really? Wow, tell that Magic Johnson!
Oh wait, he’s heterosexual, isn’t he?
so the best way to cure AIDS is to have normal heterosexual “sex”???
and the best way to cure alcoholism is to…….only drink light beer?
You know, you may want to join St.Daryll’s cult. Their looking for a few good men…
June 13th, 2007 at 2:25 pmHeh
In short, Christ said the one man one woman - forever – is the best model for everyone. This arrangement was the intent of the Creator, and safeguards one’s emotional, physical, and spiritual wellbeing. It’s certainly a sure cure for AIDS.
Comment by bitblt — June 13, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
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My committed and long term (same sex) marriage makes me very happy and it is just as good for preventing AIDS as a straight marriage.
And let me cut you off before you even try it:
The majority of AIDS cases in Africa are in heterosexual men and women.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:27 pm“This arrangement was the intent of the Creator, and safeguards one’s emotional, physical, and spiritual wellbeing. It’s certainly a sure cure for AIDS.”
Do you speak for the Creator? I don’t think so.
If the Creator didn’t want people to be homosexual, then why did he create people who were homosexual? Do you think he created this population in order for them to be miserable, to suffer, to be lonely, hated by many and outcast in society? I think not. God’s biggest message was to learn to love. Not intolerance and hate.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:27 pmI have several relatives in my extended family who are gay. It was clear to me even as a young child one relative in particular was gay even though I didn’t understand it until I was older. It was no surprise to anyone when he came out. They have ALL suffered in many ways for being ‘created the way they were’. And make no mistake about it, that is how they were created.
I have had long conversations with them and they have ALL struggled in many ways their entire lives, fighting against their nature trying to please others and fit into the mold of society, fighting against injustice and intolerance in society and the workplace. One relative even moved out of our country and now lives and works in Europe where he is much more accepted and happy.
DR - Thank you for the strawman argument re: stingy Progressives. Most people don’t line their pockets deeper - they invest, spend or expand their business - all of which is GREAT for the economy….. But I’m surprised - Progs don’t get the same tax breaks as conservatives? How shocking!!
Pssst…..My “pretentious” child did not say anything…..my PRECOCIOUS child made the commen