Sen. Arlen Specter proposes a deal
By on Jun 13th, 2007 at 9:53 pm
Sen. Arlen Specter proposes a deal
to obtain the testimony of freshly subpoenaed former White House officials Harriet Miers and Sara Taylor: “He’d prefer that there be a public hearing and that the hearing be under oath, but said that’s not necessary, given that it’s a crime to lie to investigators, even if it’s not under oath. But Specter said there needs to be a transcript — otherwise it would be much more difficult to hold an aide to account for lying.”
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Are you starting to squirm about in your seat for some reason, Mr. Specter?
June 13th, 2007 at 9:56 pmYou got off easy on Monday with the no-confidence vote on Gonzo, is this one getting a little closer to home?
OK, here’s the deal,
We get ta do what the fukc we want, when the fukc we want to do it,
You… well…
June 13th, 2007 at 9:58 pmYou can go fukc yourself!
Hey, Arlen, you’re not in charge anymore. So sit the f**k down and shut the f**k up. You can’t cover for your co-conspirators anymore.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:01 pmThis may be the last offer that Congress will make, though I doubt the White House understands that or will accept it. These issues will not be resolved in court, and I think Arlen Spector knows it. This seems to be the preface to the long walk Spector will undoubtedly be part of to let these crooks know they must resign or be imeached. I think they will choose impeachment, and this will begin before August ends.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:02 pmWhat has this two-faced weasel Specter, got up his sleeve this time, I wonder.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:02 pmHelloooo…. I think that is the whole point. They don’t want any records or transcripts period that would be able to be used against them and hold them to account.
Man, I would give anything to clean house and start over again with all new people. I can’t hardly bear to see what they are doing to our country and our system of government, our laws and judiciary. What I hate the most is breaking the faith and trust of the American people. I think that is the hardest thing to restore.
Do you realize how many years it will take to fix what they have dismantled or distorted 9let alone destroyed)? If it is even fixable..
June 13th, 2007 at 10:03 pm” … otherwise it would be much more difficult to hold an aide to account for lying.â€
and there WILL be some LYING …
oath or not… … it’s. what. they. do.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:03 pm.
Specterum is the useless sentator from PA that allowed a staff member to place a tricky little modification in the Patriot Act that led to the ENTIRE USA SCANDAL AT THE DOJ!!!
Specterum needs to answer some serious questions!!!!!! How did this happen Hayseed Specterum??
Are you too old to control your staff? Too stupid? Too slow? WTF old man? Your office ph*cked all of us here!!!!
June 13th, 2007 at 10:04 pmSpecter: I’d prefer that there be a public hearing and that the hearing be under oath, but that’s not necessary, given that it’s a crime to lie to investigators, even if it’s not under oath.
Democrats: Okay.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:05 pmArlen Sphincter talkin’ out his ass again
June 13th, 2007 at 10:06 pmHe’d prefer that there be a public hearing and that the hearing be under oath, but said that’s not necessary,
June 13th, 2007 at 10:07 pmWhat the hell? OMG … maybe Specter needs to be looked at too.
How about another Gang of 14 compromise? The Dems are spineless suckers for just about anything these days as long as they get their cash from the military complex lobby.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:08 pmmaybe Specter needs to be looked at too.
Comment by had enough — June 13, 2007 @ 10:07 pm
Exactly, it was his office that put the language in the Patriot Act that facilitated the entire DOJ corruption and criminal activities!! He needs to be investigated up the yazoo!!!
This man is either STUPID to the core or CORRUPT to the core!! Take your pick trolls!!!
June 13th, 2007 at 10:11 pmSpecter was once a prosecuter so he knows that testimony not under oath is hearsay and worthless. So for Arlen to say they can testify NOT under oath is hypocrisy.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:13 pmComment by dixie blood — June 13, 2007 @ 10:11 pm
Oh yeah, you’re totally right.
If he had anything to do with anything in the US govt, the Dems need ta get out their flashlights and shine it up is a$$hole.
Totally.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:13 pmArlen Sphincter is just another lying, cheating Republicrook.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:13 pmThe Dems are spineless suckers for just about anything these days as long as they get their cash from the military complex lobby.
Comment by Gregor — June 13, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
Exactly. We can’t trust anyone !!! Or any party!!!!
Democrats suck too !!!!
June 13th, 2007 at 10:13 pmDemocrats suck too !!!!
Comment by dixie blood — June 13, 2007 @ 10:13 pm
So who are y’ gun git t’ shine a flashlight up the Dems’ a$$holes???
June 13th, 2007 at 10:15 pmRep. Leahy runs this committee now, so he needs to hit Specter on the head with the gavel.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:16 pmSenator Leahy I mean > lol.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:17 pmLeahy needs to cram t
June 13th, 2007 at 10:19 pmat gavel up Arlen’s Sphincter.
Spector knows that he has to save his friends as he is loyal Bushie. We’ve had so many White House officials lie under oath and even the Attorney General has lied under oath. Spector was told to save Miers and he is doing his job as he was ordered. The good thing is Spector doesn’t have the last word on this. I know alot of GOP supporters in jail would have loved that deal. Maybe Libby can ask the court to let his lies under oath be treated like Miers.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:23 pmPublic hearing.
Under Oath.
Transcript.
No other offers.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:27 pmAnother typical Specter stunt! He poses as the tough front man (the barker) and then lets them slide off the hook – either they are under oath or forget it! We’ve seen how they lie when not under oath (and even under oath as the case with Libby) so it’s “no deal” but thanks for playing, Arlen!
June 13th, 2007 at 10:27 pmAbsolutely…..and Specter knows full well the “track record” of these lying thugs – so it’s incredibly important for it to be public, under oath, and with full transcript! These weasels cannot be trusted to tell the truth unless it is done appropriately.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:28 pmIf Congress permits this “deal” to be made, then I believe that more Democrats will jump ship as I have recently done. And this aint’ going to be pretty when they do. Grow some balls, Congress and make your demands. Don’t permit a Repuke like Specter to call “your shots”!
June 13th, 2007 at 10:30 pmyep – send that to all the reps and sens :
Public hearing.
Under Oath.
Transcript.
No other offers.
Comment by Zooey
no other way…
June 13th, 2007 at 10:31 pm.
So who are y’ gun git t’ shine a flashlight up the Dems’ a$$holes???
Comment by Mr. President — June 13, 2007 @ 10:15 pm
You a$$hole junkie!! Get’er done Mr. Press-A-Dunce!!
June 13th, 2007 at 10:32 pmWhy is Specter opening the door for more lying and nonsense? This is incredible. Leahy will not put up with it. And Conyers… he is also getting ready – he has had meetings with Greg Palast(sp?), news investigator and author of Armed Madhouse, and has acquired more info on this scandal. We will see some spine.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:34 pmyep – send that to all the reps and sens :
Public hearing.
Under Oath.
Transcript.
No other offers.
Comment by Zooey
Would be nice but isn’t going to happen, there is not an ounce of non corruption anywhere up there. they all know each others dirty little secrets and all play ping pong to keep all of us off the trails. Pretending to look into each other, then getting blocked and pretending to do something else. Ohhh lets get tough, oh nevermind.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:35 pmQUESTION:
If it’s no big deal whether or not they testify under oath, why are they so reluctant to testify under oath?
June 13th, 2007 at 10:37 pmOT,
I’ve been watching Lorita Doan testify on CSPAN…(rerun)
What a ph*cking moron!!!
She actually is trying to out think/talk a boat load of smarter people and she’s drowning in her own stupidity!!!
June 13th, 2007 at 10:38 pmI don’t understand how Specter could possibly suggest that it would not be necessary for Miers and Taylor to testify under oath. Yes, it’s a crime to lie to Congress, even if one is not under oath. But I don’t believe that Specter would have the guts or integrity to actually charge Miers, Taylor, or any of the others who have already lied to Congress, with any crime.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:40 pmso, what’s “given’em hell harry” have to say about this?
better make some calls tomorrow… capital switchboard:
800-828-0498 . 800-459-1887 . 800-614-2803
”
Public hearing.
Under Oath.
Transcript.
No other offers.
“
June 13th, 2007 at 10:43 pm…
time to walk the dog… and then kick back…
hot and dry working outside today… no humidity, but tiring…
we need a good rain here…
g’nite… make those calls! :-)
…
QUESTION:
If it’s no big deal whether or not they testify under oath, why are they so reluctant to testify under oath?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — June 13, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
… to follow up:
If the Bushies have nothing to hide (as they so frequently assert**), why are they hiding everything?
**I don’t buy it–never did, never will
June 13th, 2007 at 10:45 pmQUESTION:
If it’s no big deal whether or not they testify under oath, why are they so reluctant to testify under oath?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — June 13, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
and here’s another favorite:
IF they have NOTHING TO HIDE,
then why are they TRYING TO HIDE EVERYTHING ???
…see yas…
June 13th, 2007 at 10:47 pm.
Specter would allow Alberto Gonzales to NOT testify under oath, when he was committee chairman, so he hopes he can still convince Leahy to go along with that crap. No member of the Bush Regime should be allowed to get away with hearsay testimony.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:48 pmKKKarl must have renewed his threat to Spector with whatever it is he has on him.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:48 pmha! …sandy… aha!
June 13th, 2007 at 10:49 pmComment by Mr. President — June 13, 2007 @ 10:15 pm
You a$$hole junkie!! Get’er done Mr. Press-A-Dunce!!
Comment by dixie blood — June 13, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
You do know that the whole flashlight/a$$hole thing is a metaphor, right?
June 13th, 2007 at 10:49 pm.
.
.
…(git-r-dun)…
Sorry off topic…..Lil Bush on Comedy Central is destroying everyone connected to Bush. The last clip was lil Cheney hooking up with Barbra Bush sr. Soo nice to see the truth be told even if its animated.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:50 pmComment > some claim Specter likes young boys, so if true then Karl Rove has the pics to blackmail him.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:52 pmpost 42 is for 1970cs.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:53 pmHere we go again. Specter speaks the right words at the beginning, but in the end he wants to “deal” (read, give them what they want) and he backs off his tough talk.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:57 pmIf I were on the SJC, I would say No, a thousand times no. We have been down this road before. Oath. Yes. Transcript. Yes. No bargain. No compromise. Who the hell does Specter think he is?
He’s not in charge any more though he may think differently. He has betrayed the trust of the Dems before – he is a repugnican – no deal. No way.
If it’s no big deal whether or not they testify under oath, why are they so reluctant to testify under oath?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — June 13, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
Because the amount of lawsuits that they are named in is huge (as is every administration). You don’t as a matter of principal just show up and start answering questions everytime someone asks (Or you would spend all day every day doing that). If they really care and want you they will subpoena you (which will never happen because they are all cowards and let them get away with whatever they want)
June 13th, 2007 at 10:57 pmTestimony requires being under oath – it is that simple. Why bother to NOT administer an oath? What is your point Sen Specter?
June 13th, 2007 at 11:00 pmThis isn’t the first time WH counsel Fielding has avoided Leahy and dealt directly with Specter.
June 13th, 2007 at 11:02 pmSen. Leahy has a reputation of being easily pushed around, partly because he did nothing when VP Cheney said to him “Go f–k yourself.” Leahy should have told Cheney off, but he did not, so now the GOPers expect himto roll over for Specter.
June 13th, 2007 at 11:06 pmDrag the bitches before the committee in chains. Freaking thug whores.
June 13th, 2007 at 11:07 pmWhen I watch these hearings on CSpan I always wonder if the Democrats consult with one another before to have some sort of coordinated strategy, it doesn’t seem like it?
June 13th, 2007 at 11:12 pmArlen has (R) after his name. Cannot be trusted, part of the thugs in the crime family. Take no prisoners.
June 13th, 2007 at 11:13 pmSo who are y’ gun git t’ shine a flashlight up the Dems’ a$$holes???
Comment by Mr. President
Why don’t you pull that flashlight out of your own a$$hole and maybe you’ll finally realize that your shit does stink, in fact it stinks up large amounts of this site.
June 13th, 2007 at 11:20 pmArlen Sp-rectum, was a lying sack of shit before it was even fashionable. Remember he was on the Warren Commission. Hey wasn’t George Sr. hanging around Dallas?
June 13th, 2007 at 11:23 pmShane,
It’s my thinking that no one should be in politics as long of Specter and some of those other geezers.
June 13th, 2007 at 11:26 pmIt’s my thinking that no one should be in politics as long of Specter and some of those other geezers.
Comment by Zooey
Amen Sister Zooey. (I threw that in for our smarmy evangelical trolls.)
June 13th, 2007 at 11:29 pmIt’s my thinking that no one should be in politics as long of Specter and some of those other geezers.
Comment by Zooey
Yeah or driving
June 13th, 2007 at 11:31 pmYeah or driving
Comment by Tundra
Amen, Brother Tundra.
Heh.
June 13th, 2007 at 11:37 pmIt’s my thinking that no one should be in politics as long of Specter and some of those other geezers.
Comment by Zooey
If you have to change your Depends more than twice a day, it’s time to get out of politics.
June 13th, 2007 at 11:53 pmIf you have to change your Depends more than twice a day, it’s time to get out of politics.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Is that why they have those aides sitting behind them…..?
Ick.
June 13th, 2007 at 11:54 pmComment by Zooey — June 13, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
I think I just threw up a little
June 13th, 2007 at 11:56 pmI think I just threw up a little
Comment by Tundra
Disappointing…….I was hoping for a lot. :D
June 13th, 2007 at 11:57 pm…why does anyone in the Sentate…
…want to make a deal…
…with a politically, morally, and intellectually bankrupt…
…occupier and his criminal regime?
…shouldn’t THEY be asking for the deal?
…creating reality…
…a REPULSIVESCUM trademark since 2000…
…patent pending…
June 13th, 2007 at 11:58 pm“If you have to change your Depends more than twice a day, it’s time to get out of politics.”
Or, if they have to wake you up for the vote.
June 14th, 2007 at 12:04 amGosh darn that Arlen. He sure is getting tough on these scumbags.
June 14th, 2007 at 12:06 amAh Senator, still whoring for the Bush oil-nazi crime family, I see. It just never ends with these worthless clowns, does it?
June 14th, 2007 at 12:17 amAlren Specu… never mind.
He does appear to be worming around here. How about putting these clowns on display for the circus?
June 14th, 2007 at 12:29 amSpecter may have ideas for the Senate process, but the House Judiciary Committee does NOT take unsworn testimony under its current leadership (Conyers).
June 14th, 2007 at 1:01 am“Sen. Leahy has a reputation of being easily pushed around, partly because he did nothing when VP Cheney said to him “Go f–k yourself.‖Jay Randal
That’s utter nonsense. Senator Leahy has been in the Senate for nearly 30 years. His reputation is not related to the criminal VP’s cowardice, or the Bushco disrespect for our democracy. He is an excellent investigator, a clear-thinking attorney, and one of our best national representatives. Why don’t you attack the REAL criminals, instead of slandering one of our best public servants with NONSENSE.
June 14th, 2007 at 1:07 am“This may be the last offer that Congress will make, though I doubt the White House understands that or will accept it. These issues will not be resolved in court, and I think Arlen Spector knows it.”
On the contrary, I think the federal bench would readily rule in the Congress’s favor within a few weeks after subpoenas have been filed. That’s why the Bush Shitehouse lawyered up last week.
“This seems to be the preface to the long walk Spector will undoubtedly be part of to let these crooks know they must resign or be imeached. I think they will choose impeachment, and this will begin before August ends.” –little d
Impeachment will not occur, because we don’t have the votes to secure a conviction. That could change, but it would have to change before any such process will get out of committee.
The disaffilated (angry) left and pretending right here in the Comments may not like it, but TODAY WAS A BIG SUCCESS, and it is revolting really to see so many FOOLS trying to shit on the birthday cake.
Both Houses filed subpoenas on the Shitehouse! Sound the horns!
You can take a timeline of the Nixon admin. and lay it against this one. Attorney General who will “never” be fired — only to be gone from office a few months later. Approval ratings in the toilet. Stagnation of WH policies because of the scandals. Loss of support by President of his party.
• Subpoenas to the White House is a KEY moment in the drama of the U.S. Democracy vs. George Bush, et al.
And all the angry left can do is try to piss on the parade.
Bravo Chairman Leahy! Bravo Chairman Conyers!
Force the bastards to RESIGN!
June 14th, 2007 at 1:17 amWhy don’t you attack the REAL criminals, instead of slandering one of our best public servants with NONSENSE.
Comment by Paul in LA — June 14, 2007 @ 1:07 am
Paul, put your research skills where your mouth is. Who are the members of the ruling class? Who are the War Profiteers? Who owns stock in those companies?
If we don’t attack the monied interests behind WAR, we will always have war.
We need to make PEACE more profitable than War.
June 14th, 2007 at 1:20 amThanks BnF, I am not the one to call people out. Some like to throw things around without actually digging (ok, me). I can start the War Profiteer list…Halliburton, KB&R, Blackwater, Exxon, Aegis, Qualcomm, Lockheed Martin. I think we can make a larger list.
June 14th, 2007 at 3:41 amtell Arlen to take an oath sometime.
June 14th, 2007 at 6:10 amWell, in the interest of justice, thankfully Senator Sphincter isn’t in charge. He’s the guy who insisted Gonzalez not be put under oath while the Republican syndicate was in charge. But, Senator Sphincter, elections have consequences, as we all hope you’ll learn next time your punk ass is in the barrel.
June 14th, 2007 at 6:56 amMaybe it’s just me, but it seems as though when a public official testifies, or even gives an interview, they are speaking to the American people, and it should be as binding as if they are under oath.
June 14th, 2007 at 11:39 am“Why don’t you attack the REAL criminals, instead of slandering one of our best public servants with NONSENSE.
“Who are the members of the ruling class? Who are the War Profiteers? Who owns stock in those companies?”
“If we don’t attack the monied interests behind WAR, we will always have war.” –Briseadh
So you’re claiming that Senator Leahy is a war profiteer?
That’s HILARIOUS. Post your evidence or your links, you slanderer.
June 14th, 2007 at 3:49 pmWe need to make PEACE more profitable than War.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — June 14, 2007 @ 1:20 am
I like the way you think, Friend.
June 14th, 2007 at 9:08 pm