Bush Contradicts Gates, Says It’s ‘Too Early To Judge’ Results Of Escalation
Bush Contradicts Gates, Says It’s ‘Too Early To Judge’ Results Of Escalation
Early this week, the Pentagon delivered to Congress its “first comprehensive statistical overview of the new U.S. military strategy in Iraq.” Citing “uneven cooperation” and little “concrete progress,” the report concluded that “reconciliation between Shiite, Kurdish and Sunni factions” remains “a serious unfulfilled objective.” Further, the report found that suicide bombings across Iraq have doubled since January, overall violence “has increased in most provinces,” and “civilian casualties rose slightly, to more than 100 a day.”
Today, however, the President attempted to dismiss the report’s conclusions, saying that it is still “too early to judge the results of this new strategy” by repeating the myth that U.S. forces “haven’t even started the full surge yet“:
It is too early to judge the results of this new strategy. General Petraeus recently put it this way: “We haven’t even started the full surge yet.” He just got his troops on the ground. Only at the end of this week will the last of the five reinforcement brigades become fully operational.
It is not “too early to judge” the results of the President’s escalation in Iraq. As the Secretary of Defense Robert Gates explained nearly six months ago at the start of the escalation plan, “we’ll have pretty good early indications of their performance” before “very many American soldiers have been sent to Iraq”:
Well, as I indicated, we’re going to know pretty early on whether the Iraqis are meeting their military commitments, in terms of being able to go into all neighborhoods, in terms of the Iraqis being in the lead and carrying out the leadership and the fighting, and for there not to be political interference in the military operations that are going forward.
As I say, this is going to unfold over a period of time, and so I think that as I indicated in my remarks, before very many American soldiers have been sent to Iraq, we’ll have pretty good early indications of their performance. We’ll have to see, in terms of the length of time. It’s really hard to say at this point. It’s viewed as a temporary surge.
Further, as ThinkProgress noted previously, with over 160,000 U.S. troops now in Iraq and U.S. troop deaths at a two-year high, it is patently false to suggest that the surge has yet to begin.
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Murder and oppression is a tough business. It takes time to see results.
Heck, it took almost two full years for Americans to become so apathetic that they would allow virtually anything to go on without opposition or retribution.
Be patient. It’s not like it’s a life-or-death matter. Oh, wait…
June 14th, 2007 at 6:30 pmReposted from yesterday
Sign on and add to the list of trolls not shown.
Comment by JPV — June 11, 2007 @ 1:52 pm
HEY GUYS, CAN WE MAKE A PACT, WITH EACH OTHER, TO COMPLETELY IGNORE THE TROLLS FROM NOW ON?
Comment by Buck Fush — June 11, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
“IGNORE THE TROLLS CLUB.â€
Good idea, guys!!
Why not take this list you started and expand it to include the rest not listed yet, and also as Trolls change their “handle.†Then automatically (cut & paste) post it on every thread on TP about, say, every 25 posts. All of us anti troll folks can post it if we see it hasn’t been posted in a while. Especially on troll heavy threads. “Members†can add their names as they wish forswearing communication with the trolls. Repetition is the name of the game! (Put the word “Reminder†on top in bold)
What do you think folks? Shall we band together formally? If I don’t hear from anyone I will begin to post it anyway.
IGNORE THE TROLLS CLUB
Members:
Buck Fush, JPV, Merlin, Mr. President
Reminder
Don’t Read A Trolls Post

Don’t Respond To A Trolls Post
IGNORE THE TROLLS – Debate good, Trolls bad
Here are the trolls currently posting on TP.
m12, Patrick1, Jake, Valiant Venus, Pres. Clinton, MAF54, Mr. President,
June 14th, 2007 at 6:31 pmBy neglect or design bush is the worst president in the history of the United States…
June 14th, 2007 at 6:31 pm“Nope, not starting yet. Not starting ’til I say so. No siree.” Commander Guy
June 14th, 2007 at 6:35 pmIt looks like Bush needs to swallow something.
What an evil, sick bastard he is.
June 14th, 2007 at 6:35 pmFrom the GOP Quotes of the Week:
“We haven’t started the surge – the full surge – yet. So let me have a few months.”
General David Petraeus, June 5, 2007.
“We’re only about two months into the surge.”
General David Petraeus, April 25, 2007.
“What is taking place in Anbar is almost breathtaking.”
General David Petraeus, on progress in Iraq, June 8, 2007.
“I don’t see an end game, as it were, in sight.”
June 14th, 2007 at 6:40 pmRyan Crocker, U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, June 6, 2007.
MAYBE, history will record these 8 (gulp) years as a HOLE in our history…Nothing to see here!! And, we can forget about this as an abomination on the scrap heap of time….
These people have been nothing less than a disaster for America and hopefully their 29% base will all just leave – for good.
If we want “border control”, we got to ask – WHO LET THEM IN???
June 14th, 2007 at 6:44 pmFrom the Chimp to you,
“The sectarian violence was getting more severe. And I had a choice. It’s what Presidents do. They make decisions. And that’s what you do. You make decisions. I made a decision. I decided to send more troops with a new mission to help the Iraqi government secure the population and get control of Baghdad. I put our troops under a new commander, General David Petraeus, who wrote the Army’s new manual on counterinsurgency warfare.”
What a self-indulged idiot! Like making decisions is exclusive to the office of prez? Hey, I just decided to scratch my nuts! Can I be prez now?
June 14th, 2007 at 6:45 pmNearly every word out of Bush’s mouth is a lie. At its heart, this creature is an utter failure of human spirit, an abomination to truth, decency, morality, ethics, and compassion. Those who continue to support this creature should be ashamed.
June 14th, 2007 at 6:45 pmMeanwhile, the mid east is facing yet another crisis.
Gaza collapsing…Abbas in trouble
Violence up in Iraq….
Heckuva job team W!!!! Can anyone be worse???
June 14th, 2007 at 6:46 pmWhy is there no mention of the Palestinian government being dissolved today?
Seems pretty important.
June 14th, 2007 at 6:47 pmNearly every word out of Bush’s mouth is a lie. At its heart, this creature is an utter failure of human spirit, an abomination to truth, decency, morality, ethics, and compassion. Those who continue to support this creature should be ashamed.
Comment by VerbalKint
Well said, VK. I agree.
June 14th, 2007 at 6:47 pmIGNORE THE TROLLS – Debate good, Trolls bad
Here are the trolls currently posting on TP.
m12, Patrick1, Jake, Valiant Venus, Pres. Clinton, MAF54, Mr. President,
I’ll join in.
I know I’m one of those that attacks them. I agree it’s not good to give them the time of day.
June 14th, 2007 at 6:48 pmIGNORE THE TROLLS CLUB
Members:
Buck Fush, JPV, Merlin, Mr. President
Reminder
Don’t Read A Trolls Post

Don’t Respond To A Trolls Post
IGNORE THE TROLLS – Debate good, Trolls bad
Here are the trolls currently posting on TP.
m12, Patrick1, Jake, Valiant Venus, Pres. Clinton, MAF54, Mr. President,
Comment by Mr. President
I’m confused…
Why is Mr. President both a member of the club AND a troll too?
And sometimes I will respond to Jake, just because he’s not as obnoxious and abusive, as the other trolls. Just misguided.
YMMV.
June 14th, 2007 at 6:50 pmI detect a mote of confusion here. Who are we to trust, Bush, Cheney, McInsane and Snow or everybody else? Could the combat-experienced majority be right?
June 14th, 2007 at 6:52 pmNow that’s a Flip Flop!
What was Chimpy saying just last month?
June 14th, 2007 at 6:55 pmFRIGGIN IDIOT !!!!!!!
NOW IT’S FRIGGIN BEEN 6 YEARS
AND EVERY SINGLE DAY
THE FRIGGIN ONLY THING BUSH BABBLES ON ABOUT IS – -
TERRORISTS AND WAR…. NOTHING ELSE, OTHER THAN
TO GET THE ECONOMY GO FRIGGIN SHOPPING MORE
FRIGGIN WORST PRESIDENT EVER
OH YEAH, GO FRIGGIN SHOPPING MORE
LISTEN… IF THESE POLITICAL LEECHES/PARASITES WOULD QUIT
SERVING THEIR MASTERS AND OUTSOURCING AND RUNNING UP
THE NATIONAL DEBT SO EACH HOUSEHOLD DIDN’T HAVE TO OWE
$600,000 FRIGGIN, WE WOULDN’T NEED TO GO SHOPPING MORE
AND THE ONLY REASON THESE POLITICAL LEECHES ARE RICH, GUESS
WHY…. THEY SUCK OFF YOU AND ME !!!!
NOW, JIMBO DUDE IS AWARE EXACTLY WHAT POLITICAL CORRUPTION
AND THE COMPLETE CESSPOOL OF POLITICAL LEECHES, CRONYISM,
FAST SMOOTH SHIFTY EYED HOODLUMS DUDE, COMPLETE CROOKS
FROM THE HIGHEST CLASS HOUSE IN THE LAND AND THE MOST SACRED
DEPT OF JUSTICE/TRUTH…
THESE AIN’T HARDWORKING FULL OF INTEGRITY, WISE OLD SERVANTS..
THESE
ARE
A
BUNCH
OF
CROOKS
JIMBO DUDE
ALWAYS
SPEAKS ROCK SOLID TRUTH
June 14th, 2007 at 7:05 pmROCK SOLID INTEGRITY DUDE
Comment by Vinnie — June 14, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
Comment by JPV — June 14, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
HEYOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
You guys didn’t know????????????????????????????????????????????//
I’m the lying Cretan who says that everyone from Crete is a liar!!!!!!!!!111
June 14th, 2007 at 7:10 pmBush knows nothing except what Darth Dicky Cheney tells him.
June 14th, 2007 at 7:10 pmHe’s still getting just what he wants.
And that is keep the death and destruction that he is responsible for going until his sickening soul is out of office and it becomes another’s responsibility.
Somebody pleeease, give that man a dry pretzel.
June 14th, 2007 at 7:11 pmYes, the Chimpster must be correct – after all those years of dedicated military service, how could he possibly be wrong? (sarcasm)
June 14th, 2007 at 7:11 pmIGNORE THE TROLLS CLUB
Members:
Buck Fush, JPV, Merlin, Mr. President
Comment by Mr. President — June 14, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
WTF? You’re a troll.
June 14th, 2007 at 7:14 pmunbelievable – oops, I forgot about ole’ “front line” George. At least that’s where Tony Snow says he’s at.
June 14th, 2007 at 7:22 pmI am shocked and appalled that the thug in chief would tell a lie…but what has he ever said that was the truth. Everything about the reichwing is based on lies. They create their own reality, not, by lying…they lied to get Dubya in office, they lied to start the war, and they have lied about everything since then. The Bush Crime Family is made up of and supported by lying thugs…
June 14th, 2007 at 7:28 pmJesus! America, where in the hell are you? You are lost.
June 14th, 2007 at 7:33 pmDid you forget bottom boy?
He and MAF54 should get a room.
June 14th, 2007 at 7:36 pmRecall, Mr. Bush has no trouble sleeping at night and look at that smug picture. Would that he would visit the maimed, the widows and the orphans of our young military and of the Iraqi. He and his staff are personally responsible for engaging us in this illicit, illegal war. This preemptive sucker punch against a nation that did no harm to us. We have lost billions in treasure, untold future harm to our reputation, and injury, upon injury to others and to our very own heros who bravely donned a uniform in order to protect America. They return to us without their arms, without their minds, or so traumatized from the blood, hate, and death that they can hardly adjust to this sense of reality. Many do not adjust. Please, I urge you reader, write Pelosi, Reid, and your area congress reps. The white house staff, all of them, should be fired or impeached. No more mister nice guy, this president and his ilk are literally and figuratively killing us.
June 14th, 2007 at 7:38 pmJimbo…DUDE!!
He got da chronic.
June 14th, 2007 at 7:39 pmGW Botch is an enemy of the state and the people therein. He must be stopped. Impeach him!
But, nooooo, Nancy PullLooser won’t do it!! She must go! We need leaders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When will the Democrats get a set of matching balls and stand up to the Repugniscums?
Impeachment is what the American people want and the Democrats in power are tone-deaf, stupid!!!!!
Once again the Democrats are fightin’ the universe to be more stupid than the oppostion!!!!
June 14th, 2007 at 7:41 pmGW Botch is an enemy of the state and the people therein. He must be stopped. Impeach him!
But, nooooo, Nancy PullLooser won’t do it!! She must go! We need leaders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When will the Democrats get a set of matching balls and stand up to the Repugniscums?
Impeachment is what the American people want and the Democrats in power are tone-deaf, stupid!!!!!
Once again the Democrats are fightin’ the universe to be more stupid than the oppostion!!!!
June 14th, 2007 at 7:42 pmsorry ’bout the double post…TP had their WordPressed….
June 14th, 2007 at 7:44 pm#14 Comment by JPV — June 14, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
You wondered:
I’m confused…
Why is Mr. President both a member of the club AND a troll too?
He added his name to the list as is obvious if you read my original post in its entirety. I copied Buk Fush’s short list of trolls as a beginning for the list. Obviously this idea is far from perfect.
And sometimes I will respond to Jake, just because he’s not as obnoxious and abusive, as the other trolls. Just misguided.
YMMV.
Interesting! If you think he is a troll then why do you respond to him at all? See your emotional (all capital letters) response regarding trolls below.
I followed your impassioned (All capital letters) post shown here with a proposal to somehow do just that. I asked for comments about doing it.
Check my original post yesterday: Ethics; Earmark Loving Conservatives; Comment #43
Comment by JPV — June 11, 2007 @ 1:52 pm
June 14th, 2007 at 7:45 pmHEY GUYS, CAN WE MAKE A PACT, WITH EACH OTHER, TO COMPLETELY IGNORE THE TROLLS FROM NOW ON?
SWINDLER I SAY
FRIGGIN IDIOT
OH YEAH RIGHT…….. GO SHOPPING MORE
6 FRIGGIN YEARS BABBLING ON EVERY FRIGGIN DAY ABOUT BIG BAD TERRORIST
COMPLETE POLITICAL
LEECH
PARASITE
TOTALLY FRIGGIN CORRUPTED DUDE
HOODLUMS I SAY, A COMPLETE CESSPOOL OF FRIGGIN
POLITICAL HOODLUMS
June 14th, 2007 at 7:51 pmThe surge is failing.
Allah’s warriors are beating the cowardly Crusaders.
After Iraq is free, Palestine is next.
As a Muslims I support the Left’s alliance with us.
With yopur control of the media, the Jihad will suceed.
Than you will triumph in next years election.Insha’allah!
Here’s my website.
Post there Progressives are welcomed!
http://www.umarlee.com
June 14th, 2007 at 7:51 pmunbelievable – oops, I forgot about ole’ “front line†George. At least that’s where Tony Snow says he’s at.
Comment by Damian — June 14, 2007 @ 7:22 pm
I still think that a person serving as Commander-in-Chief either aught to have military experience or be able to admit that they should rely on the military wisdom of others who have.
Bush has neither the requisite experience nor the common sense – hence the debacle in Iraq. We need to send him there until he’s ‘won the war’. It’ll be over in 2 hours…
June 14th, 2007 at 7:52 pmMore Bush Double Speak! He is the master at speaking with “forked tongue”.
June 14th, 2007 at 7:53 pmAs a Leftist I agree Mr. President is a Reichwing trool!
I too will join the ignore the troll list!
IGNORE THE TROLLS CLUB
June 14th, 2007 at 7:53 pmMembers:
Buck Fush, JPV, Merlin, Mr. President, Mr. Roboto
CAN’T
THIS
FRIGGIN
MORON
BABBLE ON ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE THAN HIS LITTLE PET
EVERY FRIGGIN DAY
THE BIG BAD TERRORISTS ARE COMIN TO GET US ALL
SURE HE CAN…………
LIKE FRIGGIN GO SHOPPING MORE
IN A COMPLETE CESSPOOL OF CORRUPTION, WE GET THE FRIGGIN
GREASEPITS
FAR FAR SUPERIOR SERVICE AT MCDONALDS A 4TH CLASS DUMP
AND FROM BUSH, WHAT DO WE GET
EVERY FRIGGIN DAY BABBLE ON ABOUT TERRORIST FOR 6 FRIGGIN YEARS
GO SHOPPING MORE
HAVE WE GOTTEN ANYTHING ELSE OR HAS THE ONLY SERVICE BUSH GIVEN
US
IS THE FRIGGIN DUMP DUDE…. COMPLETE POLITICAL LEECH
TOTALLY FRIGGIN CORRUPTED DUDE, LITERALLY A BUNCH OF
POLITICAL HOODLUMS DUDE
June 14th, 2007 at 7:54 pmPeople,
June 14th, 2007 at 7:55 pmNext year our Great Mother Hillary will take power.
She will right all injustices inthe world.
America will be a paradise!
Come September, it’ll be “home by Christmas.” Then we’ll try the “Spring Surge.” Autumn Offensive? Win by Winter? It shouldn’t be too difficult for Mini-Mussolini to put off until we inaugurate his replacement. Then he’ll move to Paraguay, where the twins were checking out some prime brush-cutting property a few months ago.
June 14th, 2007 at 7:57 pmThe moment the Dems caved and placed a highly subjective concept of “progress”, I knew it was all over but the cryin’ and this war would go on perpetually. It’s an old, tired trick and the Dems had to know that it would end up in a “pissing contest” to determine how one viewed “progress in Iraq”. The people knew this so why didn’t the Dems? Perhaps they did realize that this determination of progress would simply tie things up forever?? Either we’ve got a total group of bunglers and idiots in Congress or the average citizen is far more intelligent than anyone we’ve elected….what gives?
June 14th, 2007 at 7:57 pmAnd the sick game of war goes on killing thousands more americans and countless thousands of Iraqis!
June 14th, 2007 at 7:58 pmHow could we, the People, have permitted this charade to take place? We should have pounded the Dems like crazy with emails and phone calls to bring them to their senses. This is the classic definition of “insanity”…..that is, repeating the same nonsense and expecting a different result! We’re engaged in an exercise in insanity, people!
June 14th, 2007 at 7:59 pmDear Merlin,
Your rag-tag team of anti-trollers isn’t looking so hot. It is almost as if they did not realize that, by responding to my post, they were, in fact, acknowledging me.
This is the first day that I have seen this “ignore list” so I will not make a big deal about the failure. I do, however, suggest that you call a team meeting to straighten out some of your players. As always,
God Bless America,
Mr. President
June 14th, 2007 at 7:59 pmA+ SUPERIOR SERVICE FROM A 4TH CLASS RESTRAUNT CALLED MCDONALD’S WITH THE ABSOLUTELY WORST QUALITY FOOD
F- FROM OUR FAITHFULLY CARESSED TOTALLY CORRUPTED SERVANTS
AT THE HIGHEST CLASS HOUSE, THE UTMOST INTEGRITY DOJ, AND
LITERALLY A DUMP FOR US FROM SENATE/CONGRESS
OH AND ALL THOSE WONDERFUL SERVICES WE ALL DESPREATELY NEED
LIKE
EPA
DOJ
DOD = DEFENSE
DOE
DOF
DOG
DOH
THERE’S JUST TOO FRIGGIN MANY OF THEM DUDE, FRIGGIN TOTALLY BLOAT
BUT YA CAN’T GET THE SERVICES IF YOU TRIED… EVEN THOUGH OUT OF EACH $1, YOU GET 33 CENTS AND THEY GET 66 CENTS
YOU KNOW WHAT WE GET FOR SERVICE DUDE
A COMPLETE CESSPOOL OF CORRUPTION DUDE, EQUIVALENT
TO THE FRIGGIN GREASE PITS DUDE, THE FRIGGIN GREASE PITS
AND BUSH BABBLES ON ABOUT THE BEST GOVERNMENT MONEY CAN BUY
WHAT TO TELL ME TO GO SHOPPING MORE
AND BUSH BABBLE ON ABOUT THE FRIGGIN BAD TERRORISTS, NOTHING ELSE
FOR
6
FRIGGIN
YEARS
ENOUGH TO FRIGGIN PUKE/BARF… YA CAN’T… IT’S TOTALLY RIGGED BY
FAST
SMOOTH
SHIFTY
EYED
SWINDLERS DUDE, LITERALLY A CESSPOOL OF POLITICAL HOODLUMS DUDE
June 14th, 2007 at 8:09 pmCaption Contest:
June 14th, 2007 at 8:12 pm“Please Lord-guy don’t let them ask me any more tougher-like questions.”
Caption Contest,
“Jesus it’s easy to con these stupid sheeple who suck on my tits and drink my Sh!t Flavored Kool-Aid and continue to vote against their own best interest and insist on dumbin’ down their own children into a ditch of sewage to make sure just one more worthless, completely useless, Repubniscum gets elected! Got bless criminals!!”
June 14th, 2007 at 8:19 pmIt’s not too early to judge how Bush is working out.
June 14th, 2007 at 8:27 pmCaption Contest:
President Bush Prays For A Beer.
June 14th, 2007 at 8:39 pm#47
dude… are you like blitzed dude :)
–
as far as jimbo dude, does not down anything related
to totally corrupt prohibition that was probably so
bloated with pork it would make anyone load in
their crony’s, even back then
as jimbo dude does not smoke up anything..
jimbo dude is squeeky clean and natural
June 14th, 2007 at 8:59 pmis so heavenly awesome dude, i’m just
natural ultimate coolness DUDE :)
Comment by Umar Lee — June 14, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
Sorry Umar, this may be a religious war for you, however, it is not for me. You religious people are being duped into a false understanding about what is going on. Christian or Muslim is of no concern at all. This is a war about power, oil and money and you muslims as well as the christian evangelicals just don’t get it.
June 14th, 2007 at 9:01 pmthe evidence doesn’t fit my conclusion
June 14th, 2007 at 9:02 pmThe thug is chief lied? I am shocked and appalled.
June 14th, 2007 at 9:03 pm#50 It’s a caption contest. I’m putting words in the mouth of the person in the photo…do you understand that concept???
June 14th, 2007 at 9:10 pm#51
DUDE
THIS WAR IS ABOUT PUTTING US INTO DEBT TO THE YANG YANG
DOESN’T MATTER REPUBLICAN CROOKS OR DEMOCRAT HOODLUMS
THEY SERVE THEIR MASTERS AND GET RICH RICH RICH WHILE
GET GET POOR AND STIFFED
LITERALLY TOTALLY BOUGHT OUT, RAID OUT SS LOCK BOX
I HONESTLY CAN’T SAY I’VE GOTTEN ANY SERVICE FOR THE PRICE WE PAY
IT’S ONE OF THE BIGGEST SWINDLES KNOWN, LITERALLY SNAKE OIL DUDE
COMPLETE CESSPOOL OF HIGH CLASS THUGS DUDE, LITERALLY A BUNCH OF HOODLUMS WITH A BLANK CHECK TO US, WHILE WE HAVE NO SAY BUT A STUPID VOTE DUDE, WHICH DON’T ME DIDDLY WITH VOTE FRAUD DUDE
IT’S SO FRIGGIN CORRUPTED DUDE, LITERALLY A BUNCH OF SWINDLERS DUDE
June 14th, 2007 at 9:16 pmFrom the article:
Today, however, the President attempted to dismiss the report’s conclusions, saying that it is still “too early to judge the results of this new strategy†by repeating the myth that U.S. forces “haven’t even started the full surge yet“:
Its all part of the plan.
•Deceive to get the surge accepted.
•Deceive about when the results will be recognized.
•Deceive about the number of troops to be committed.
Then:
•Add more troops.
•Push back the goal posts on when results will be seen.
•Meanwhile lay down a thick smokescreen of distracting statements of all kinds from many different people.
Think about this!
A Bush advisor told Ron Suskind:
“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality…we’ll act again, creating other new realities…”
This is exactly what is happening! Don’t get bogged down in the details! See the overall plan and everything makes sense.
June 14th, 2007 at 9:25 pmTrolls = Non-entities
June 14th, 2007 at 9:37 pmAnother day, another notch down in history for the Chimpmeister…ho hum
June 14th, 2007 at 10:57 pmIt is becoming clearer and clearer that Chimpy is pushing out the war so that hopefully the next President, certainly a Democrat, will have to inherit the mess and this will somehow delute Chimpy’s abysmal record. Shit, the oil and arms companies, and therefore Cheney are all aboard for that strategy. Yee haw ! By then they’ll be recruiting the poorest of the poor in high schools and cutting deals with gangmembers in prison.
June 14th, 2007 at 11:02 pmOnly a blithering idiot could could say such words.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:34 pm