Giuliani Signals Support For Second Escalation Of U.S. Forces To Iraq
Giuliani Signals Support For Second Escalation Of U.S. Forces To Iraq
In an interview this week with Bloomberg TV, former Mayor Rudy Giuliani declared that he would consider increasing U.S. troop levels in Iraq, beyond the tens of thousands of soldiers ordered in January as part of President Bush’s escalation policy.
Bloomberg host Peter Cook asked Giuliani, “If General Petraeus comes back in September and says, we can win this thing, but it’s going to take more U.S. troops, could you support the notion of adding even more U.S. troops to Iraq?”
Giuliani said he could support escalating Bush’s escalation, provided Petraeus believed he “need[ed] more troops to make it work in order to get Iraq to a situation where Iraq is stable.” When Cook noted that many Americans would strongly oppose such a plan, Giuliani said, “Hey, you know, leadership is about sometimes doing the things you know are right.” Watch it:
During the most recent presidential debates, Giuliani said that invading Iraq was “absolutely the right thing to do,” and claimed the war would “help reduce the risk for this country.” Giuliani’s current foreign policy advisers include retired Gen. Jack Keane, the architect of the Iraq escalation, and former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton.
But Giuliani often doesn’t wear his support for Bush’s deeply unpopular war policy on his sleeve. A widely-publicized document Giuliani released this week detailing his “12 Commitments” to America doesn’t contain a single reference to Iraq.
Transcript:
COOK: Let me ask you about some other issues, if I could. Iraq - you’ve supported the president. You’ve said the United States cannot lose in Iraq. I want to ask you, if you were to become president - or even before that. If General Petraeus comes back in September and says, we can win this thing, but it’s going to take more U.S. troops, could you support the notion of adding even more U.S. troops to Iraq?
GIULIANI: If that - if he came back and he said, we’ve had success. It’s working, the strategy is working. We need more troops to make it work in order to get Iraq to a situation where Iraq is stable. And Iraq isn’t - really, the ultimate goal here is, Iraq is an ally of the United States, a reliable one in the war against terror, rather than a headquarters for terrorism. Of course I’d look at that, and I’d consider that. What do we have General Petraeus there for but - we have great confidence in him.
COOK: You know there would be significant resistance to the notion of sending any more Americans there.
GIULIANI: Hey, you know, leadership is about sometimes doing the things you know are right, and then it’s your job to educate the public, as opposed to just, you know, taking a CNN poll or a Bloomberg poll or a Fox poll and let that run the country. I mean, there’s been too much of that. We have too many politicians who are poll-driven to excess. Polls are important. You’ve got to know what the public is thinking, but you can’t let them drive you completely. If Abraham Lincoln were driven by polls, he’d have pulled out of the Civil War in 1863, but I guess they didn’t have polls then, so …
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For Gods Sake : Who the hell is listening to this Dumb Ass?
June 15th, 2007 at 2:10 pmCan we just skip ahead and do a preemptive impeachment?
June 15th, 2007 at 2:12 pmThat made me laugh!, Tripmaster Monkey.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:13 pmI bet Giuliani would have a different opinion on Iraq had the Dems made good on their promise to stop the war. This whole peace thing is a freaking joke. Both Republicans and Democrats are continuing the war with no end in sight.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:14 pmI love watching the Bill Kristol wing of the GOP making jackasses of themselves.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:14 pmIs easy to fight wars from a TV set.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:14 pm“You’ve got to know what the public is thinking” :
I’m thinking you are a Criminal and Pathological Liar.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:15 pmGiuliani : How did you know the towers were going to come down? Did you consult with Sister Cleo?
June 15th, 2007 at 2:18 pmNukes, Rudy! Nukes! Say you’ll nuke Iraq quick or one of the other Rethugs will beat you to it. C’mon, prove you’re a man.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:19 pmSo is he willing to go too?
June 15th, 2007 at 2:19 pmHey Rudy, are you open to a draft?
Well? Are ya?
June 15th, 2007 at 2:19 pmHe is willing to support another one, becasue the first one is working so well!!!!
June 15th, 2007 at 2:20 pmI wonder if the Post 9/11 New York Air is starting to affect him?
June 15th, 2007 at 2:22 pmHe’s got Bolton advising him!? OMFG!
June 15th, 2007 at 2:24 pmGood Lord, what an absolute freakin’ idiot Rudy is
Just where would the troops for a second surge come from?
Do ANY of these GOP retreaded retards have ANY concept of “military logistics” in the least?
Obviously not
June 15th, 2007 at 2:24 pmI should have added : RUDE AND RUDER!
June 15th, 2007 at 2:24 pmIts funny. Everyone on here attacks Rudy when he has had nothing to do with Iraq. Yet your giving the Dems and Repubs in Washington a free pass.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:25 pmIt is absolutely stunning how out of touch with reality these guys are. They really think they will get elected as our President by supporting the war that 65% of Americans oppose. Oh well, all they are doing is guaranteeing a Democratic rout in 2008.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:28 pmComment by COMMENT BY JIM — June 15, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
CBJ, perhaps you would be so good as to point out where everyone here is giving the Dems and Repubs in Washington a ‘free pass’ regarding Iraq.
Failing that, perhaps you would be so good as to retract your false and inflammatory statement.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:29 pmwill some member of the media please ask Giuliani why he wants to stay in Iraq - Oil will be the answer ??
June 15th, 2007 at 2:30 pmOf course he’s ready to throw more of somebody else’s kids into the grinder.
Just another chickenhearted chicken hawk:
http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html
June 15th, 2007 at 2:31 pmI have just one question: Where would they get the military troops to do this? I’m tired of hearing the military is on the verge of breaking. The military IS broken. When they begin stop-loss, cutting short rest & recuperation time at home, lower enlistment standards, raise age limits, that tells me it’s already FRICKING broken. The ONLY way they can accomplish a further escalation by adding another front or to put an END to this damned fiasco is REINSTATING THE DRAFT.
I am so SICK of these war loving “Christian” whack jobs disrespecting anyone and anything that they have decided isn’t worthy of them — including the US military, the American people, and the rest of the world.
Vietnam Era Veteran
June 15th, 2007 at 2:34 pmDisabled, Female, SFC
will anyone hold him to his promise to go fight, kill and even potentially suffer life threatening wounds to back up what his cake hole doth spew?
June 15th, 2007 at 2:36 pmI wonder what Rudy’s wearing to the second escalation…
…Vera Wang or Tadashi?…
June 15th, 2007 at 2:38 pmReinstitute the draft and I am putting my whole retirement in Molson stock.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:39 pmTripMaster Monkey
Just read Katie’s remark in post #18. She’s looking for a Democrat rout in 2008. What good would that freaking do? They could have already stopped the f*#cking war by stopping the funding for it. Both parties have blood on their hands.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:39 pmOn to Tehran!!!
June 15th, 2007 at 2:40 pmGiuliani showed his love for democracy,willing to do anything against the majority of American people’s will.
No surprise there.
He speaks to the needs of small percentage who are backing his campaign and writing him the big checks.
He is no different than what we are seeing now.
He is nothing but an extension of the same existing policies…
People want change…not the same. And Giulianis is the symbol of ‘no change and current status’…another surge !!
More of the same…
Let these politicians like Giuliani start sending their own kids to the front to die and lose arms and legs…then they might begin the the re thinking process.
But they are politicans,they survive and prosper,while others die.
THE BEST ANSWER FOR GIULIANI IS DEFEAT HIM.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:42 pmI don’t give anyone in Washington a “free pass”. There is only 1 person that I would even consider supporting at this point : Ron Paul.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:43 pm“And unlike my closed-minded opponent who has no faith in American industry, I fully support human cloning as a means for increasing our troop levels to satisfy increasing surges through 2055.”
– Gov. Jenna Bush, candidate
June 15th, 2007 at 2:43 pmAnother day with another FREAK of nature so removed from reality.
May they rot in their own living hell. And may the ghost of every soldier who has died for this stupid made-up war haunt them the rest of their lives!
June 15th, 2007 at 2:44 pm:-/
Nail meet coffin.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:45 pmIs Rudy going to pull more troops out of his ass? He sure is spending alot of time talking out of it!
June 15th, 2007 at 2:46 pmBoy, Rudy sure knows a lot about how to fight wars.
Wonder where he got it from? Dick Cheney?
I mean, he did not serve in the military during the Vietnam War. Mainly because like Dick Cheney, he got several student deferments while at Manhattan College and at NYU. When he graduated in 1968, he applied for a deferment but was rejected. Luckily, he knew a powerful Judge named Lloyd MacMahon who wrote a letter to Giuliani’s draft board, asking that he be reclassified as 2-A, civilian occupation deferment, because Giuliani, who was a law clerk for MacMahon, was an essential employee. The deferment was granted.
So now the old draft dodger wants to send off everyone else’s sons and daughters to do the fighting.
It figures.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:46 pmHey you know, sometimes voting is about making sure you never become president.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:47 pmComment by COMMENT BY JIM — June 15, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
Even if the House and Senate passed a bill stopping funding, which is unlikely in the Senate at least because of the very slim majority, Bush would veto it. If more Democrats are elected in 2008, it’s more likely that a veto-proof majority would be able to stop the funding.
However, to me that scenario just sucks, because it means more killing and more millions/billions spent. I want impeachment NOW, even though the same problem of a veto-proof majority applies. Impeachment is the only way that we can stop this war, IMHO.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:47 pmGuiliani-Thompson ‘08.
Rudy is going to make a great President. He’s saying and doing all the right things.
Over 2100 days and counting without a terrorist attack on America. We’re winning.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:48 pmI think Rudy should wear something in a chiffon for the next debate.
You know, floor length, plunging neckline, maybe some ruffles…
June 15th, 2007 at 2:49 pmWhat’s really funny is that you think that Rudy hasn’t done anything to help “catapult the propaganda.”
June 15th, 2007 at 2:50 pm“If General Petraeus comes back in September and says, we can win this thing, but it’s going to take more U.S. troops, could you support the notion of adding even more U.S. troops to Iraq?â€
fool me once, shame on you… fool me twice…
June 15th, 2007 at 2:53 pm#36 Jane E. Schneider
Bush needed a funding bill to fund the war. All the dems had to do was TO DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING…….. The President can’t veto a bill unless one is sent to him. The Dems played and toyed with the MSM and they knew what they were doing. They didn’t have the guts or brains to stop the war. Blood is now on their hands as well as the neocons. The Dems controll congress. THEY HAVE RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS MESS NOW.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:53 pmNot to be a contrarian, but I hope Guliani gets the nod. He has so much baggage that the puritanical freaks will stay home and not vote. Rudy married his second cousin? And that Trump kiss in drag will make a precious ad.
I also think that Bush may turn out to be one of the best Presidents ever. He has certainly opened the eyes of many of the sheeple and showed them what truly evil and despicable whores the Repugnicunts are. His greatest achievement was the crippling of the neocons.
It’s too bad he had to take the country down with him.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:54 pmThey could have already stopped the f*#cking war by stopping the funding for it. Both parties have blood on their hands.
Comment by COMMENT BY JIM #26
NO they couldn’t have…
…they could’ve sent Bush the same bill over and over…
…Bushiva would veto it time and time again…
…then the Repulsivescum would manufacture some scenario showing…
…American soldiers throwing rocks at well armed Iraqi and al Qaeda fighters…
…blame the Dems for withholding funds and committing treason…
…and the dumb a*s fence straddling middle-of-the-road “conservatives”…
…would VOTE overwhelmingly REPULSIVESCUM in ‘08…
…hmmm…
…that might not be such a bad thing given…
…whoever wins the WH and Congress in ‘08…
…is very likely to be blamed for the economic, healthcare,military and societal breakdowns…
…that are an eminent fallout from the THIEVERY, CORRUPTION and TREASONOUS legacy…
…of the criminal Bushite junta…
…unless WE bring them to justice!
June 15th, 2007 at 2:54 pmRecall that we didn’t have an attack on US soil (not counting right-wing nutcase Tim McVeigh) for 3000 days prior to 9-11. Also recall that those responsible for that attack were brought to justice. Osama bin Laden and not Saddam Hussein killed Americans on US soil on Bush’s watch and he’s still free to terrorize America. Bush’s Iraq adventure is his legacy of failure, death, and debt.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:56 pm#39 Spudge Boy
Is propaganda as bad as funding the war? Geeeez dude. Freaking think a little bit for a change.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:57 pmComment by OxyCon #33
hahahahahahahahahahhahhhahahha!!!
…clever, funny post…
…I like… :-)
June 15th, 2007 at 2:57 pmOsama bin Laden and not Saddam Hussein killed Americans on US soil on Bush’s watch and he’s still free to terrorize America
Ah. No he didn’t.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:57 pm#41 COMMENT BY JIM
Bush needed a funding bill to fund the war. All the dems had to do was TO DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
How would that have stopped the war?
June 15th, 2007 at 2:59 pmEveryone on here attacks Rudy when he has had nothing to do with Iraq.
Comment by COMMENT BY JIM #17
…all we need to know is where Juliani sic stands on Iraq…
…right NOW!
June 15th, 2007 at 3:00 pmBig papa,
Nice conspiracy theory. So, you’d whether see the Dems continue the war (which they have) to keep the GOP from winning in 2008. Is politics more important to you THAN BLOOD? I think I’ve heard it all now. Your supporting the war while condeming it. You should be proud.
June 15th, 2007 at 3:02 pmCOMMENT BY JIM = concern troll
June 15th, 2007 at 3:04 pmAs if we needed further evidence that Thylvesther the Cat wasn’t fit to lead a pony. Expect a full-on meltdown about mid to late July.
June 15th, 2007 at 3:04 pm#48 chimpeach
Without funding for the war the military would have to cease operations inside Iraq. Can’t fight a war without weapons. Weapons cost money. Get it?
June 15th, 2007 at 3:05 pmComment by COMMENT BY JIM — June 15, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
I hardly think one comment by one poster substantiates your “everyone here” statement.
June 15th, 2007 at 3:08 pm“Just read Katie’s remark in post #18. She’s looking for a Democrat rout in 2008. What good would that freaking do? They could have already stopped the f*#cking war by stopping the funding for it. Both parties have blood on their hands.”
The Democrats would have to go a long way to do a worse job than the Republics. I am just as mad as Democrats for caving to Bush as anyone else is, but I still believe that the only hope this country has of surviving is to wrest control from the hands of the Republic lemmings who have been marching this country off a cliff for 6 years.
Actually, if I had my fondest dream it would be that Russ Feingold and others with his courage and vision would start a new political party and call it the Progressive Party. And then run Russ Feingold as their Presidential candidate. That would make things really interesting. But that’s not likely to happen now since that would only split the Democratic party and hand the next election back to the Republics and that is to be avoided at all costs!
June 15th, 2007 at 3:09 pmSo, you’d whether see the Dems continue the war (which they have) to keep the GOP from winning in 2008
Comment by COMMENT BY JIM #50
NOPE…
…I’d rather see Bushiva, L’il Dick and EVERY dumb a*s inbred al Cracker and al Cracker wannabe corporate deist worshippers…
…who voted for and sponsored them…
…arrested, prosecuted and have ALL of their assets confiscated…
…to reimburse the Iraqi AND American victims…
June 15th, 2007 at 3:11 pm#54 Tripmaster Monkey,
I stand corrected. ALMOST everyone on here is giving the Dems and Repubs in Washington a pass.
June 15th, 2007 at 3:12 pmI think I’ve heard it all now. Your supporting the war while condeming it. You should be proud.
Comment by COMMENT BY JIM #50
…just dealing with the POLITICAL realities…
…of our American system…
…unless and until I’m willing to set some sh*t off…
…I gotta be realistic…
June 15th, 2007 at 3:14 pmGiuliani the “Meat Puppet” for the NWO. The more he talks the more his poll numbers go down. Good job Rudy.
Date: 6/12
Giul. 24%
Thom. 24%
Romn. 11%
McCain 11%
Date: 3/13
June 15th, 2007 at 3:16 pmGiul. 37%
Thom. x
Romn. 10%
McCain 16%
It’s clear - Rudy intends to continue the failed Bush/Cheney stratergy of permanently occupying Iraq until every last drop of oil is sucked out or our military breaks down completely (whichever comes first.)
June 15th, 2007 at 3:16 pmCOMMENT BY JIM sez:
Um, CBJ, I hardly think one comment by one poster substantiates your “ALMOST everyone here†statement, either.
Try again.
June 15th, 2007 at 3:16 pm“#54 Tripmaster Monkey,
I stand corrected. ALMOST everyone on here is giving the Dems and Repubs in Washington a pass.
Comment by COMMENT BY JIM ”
Sorry Jim. I guess you haven’t been hanging around here very long. If had had been, you would see that the people posting on TP can give it to the Dems as good as they give it to the Rethugs. They did it when the Dems folded and let Bush have his war funds and they will do it again if the Dems do something stupid. That’s what makes Democrats different than Rethugs. Democrats can see when their representatives are doing something wrong and they let them know. The Democratic Congress got an earful from their constituents about caving to the Rethugs.
On the other hand, the Rethug lemmings blindly follow their leaders even though their leaders are leading them off a cliff. And the Rethug public is mostly silent about the things they see their party doing wrong. I have Rethug acquaintances who would never criticize their party or a party member, but they are ashamed to admit that they are a Rethug. They mostly stick their head in the sand and hope that some miracle happens to make this whole nightmare go away.
June 15th, 2007 at 3:17 pmImagine Ghoul-E-Annie as president. When Louima was sodomized and raped by NY Cops, he first said it was a myth. Then when cops shot Diallo 41 times while he was unarmed, he praised the cops.
Now imagine this Fascist slime in charge of the US military and who he picks as Attorney General.
I’d vote for Hillary just to keep this horrible person out of office.
June 15th, 2007 at 3:24 pm“This is about them firing the non-political positions, the career attorneys and others within the department to establish a completely partisan Justice Department in order to ensure a permanent Republican majority in this country.”
I hope that one of the first acts of the incoming Democratic President will be to rid the administration of all these people that Bush has installed in our government. It shouldn’t be too hard to figure out who they are. First, look to see if they graduated from Regent University (out), then look to see when they were hired and who hired them. Actually, If I was the new President, I would fire everyone that was hired by the Bush Administration. That would do it! But then the Rethugs would howl mightily about how wrong that would be and we can sit back calmly and say “serve at the pleasure of the President”.
That’s the one thing that makes no sense to me. Have any of the Rethugs out there thought about what they would think if it were a Democratic administration that was doing what the Bush Crime Family is doing? If they were honest with themselves, they would admit that they would be very upset at a Democrat. So, why are they not upset at Bush? Bush is setting precedents that I would think the Rethugs would not want set since if Bush did it and got away with it, then a Democratic president surely could get away with the same things.
June 15th, 2007 at 3:26 pmThe obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
June 15th, 2007 at 3:27 pm– Ron Paul
Funny #64. They did make me laugh.
I’ll hold you to your word Katie. Seems like your saying Repub followers are blind and Dem followers are not? Think again. Both parties have more similarities than differences.
June 15th, 2007 at 3:27 pm#53 COMMENT BY JIM
Without funding for the war the military would have to cease operations inside Iraq. Can’t fight a war without weapons. Weapons cost money. Get it?
Do you think they’re paying for this war with cash? Where do you get the idea that telling Bush he can’t have any more money means he can’t get any more? You think that not approving funds means everything shuts down and nobody can do anything over in Iraq anymore? That’s pretty simplistic. And it’s wrong. First, there was enough funding to continue as they were for a few more months, no matter what Congress did. Then, when that runs out, Bush starts shifting things around. He can start cutting funds from food, water, electricity, armor, even bullets. Anything that was budgeted to replace worn equipment could get moved to a different part of the budget. Anything that was budgeted towards training and materials in the States could get shifted. I’m sure there are some civilians in the Pentagon who could get really creative in finding the money to keep this thing going, possibly to the end of Bush’s term. In the meantime, while Bush is keeping the troops there, saving money by not re-deploying any of them, the troops are doing without a lot of essentials. That’s okay with Bush. He’ll sacrifice the troops for a propaganda victory. And then Bush and the GOP blame it on the Dems. So, you get a double whammy. You get the bad PR and you don’t even accomplish the troop withdrawal you think is automatically going to happen.
Instead of making pronouncements here as if you think you know what you’re talking about, why don’t you go ask somebody who knows. There are some Democratic Iraq and Afghanistan vets in Congress now. Why don’t you write a letter and ask them how it would work if the supplemental was never passed. Or write to Paul Rieckhoff, the founder of IAVA, and see what he thinks.
June 15th, 2007 at 3:28 pmWhat do you call Condi Rice? Haaaa haaaa haaaaa.
Comment by COMMENT BY JIM #59
…al Cracker wannabes…
…I’d love to give you a dissertation on “hegemony”…
…manifest destiny and the slave/self-hating mentality…
…but I don’t know that it would do you any good…
…given your very naive frame of mind…
…but suffice it to say…
…YES…
…I equate “conservatism”…
… (the force responsible for bringing Bushites and Julianiites to power and prominence)…
…with racism, bigotry, divisiveness and hatred (including minority self-hatred)…
June 15th, 2007 at 3:31 pmYou know, sometimes voters and citizens just have to do what is right.
June 15th, 2007 at 3:35 pmWe have to educate the politicians and send them a clear message, by not electing morons like Judy Ruliani.
#69 chimpeach
What a freaking idiot post that was. If not giving Bush a spending bill was no big deal, THEN WHY THE F#CK DID THEY DO IT? POLITICS? BULLSH#T. That whole post is a cop out and you know it.
They would have found money from other areas? Not enough to keep the war going indefinitely. You can’t nickel and dime a war.
June 15th, 2007 at 3:40 pmComment by chimpeach #69
If chimpeach’s post doesn’t open your eyes JIM…
…they’re super-glued shut…
…Good points/post chimpeach…
June 15th, 2007 at 3:41 pmYou can’t nickel and dime a war.
Comment by COMMENT BY JIM #72
…unfortunately nobody told Rummy, Dick and Dummy that…
…about Iraq AND Afghanistan…
…you’d better see someone about that super-glue JIMbo…
June 15th, 2007 at 3:44 pm#72 COMMENT BY JIM
That whole post is a cop out and you know it.
What I know is that your magical thinking about a vote or a non-vote forcing Bush’s hand is bullshit. You and I both know that you don’t know what you’re talking about. But, by all means, keep pretending that you do. And the bitchy insults make your case really convincing, too.
June 15th, 2007 at 3:44 pmThen when cops shot Diallo 41 times while he was unarmed, he praised the cops.
Comment by swampgas — June 15, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Rudy open up a SEALED court record on Diallo regarding some minor arrest, just to try to prove that Diallo was a “bad guy”? (As if that made it okay to shoot anyone 41 times!) It just goes to show that Rudy has as much regard for the “rule of law” as Bush!
June 15th, 2007 at 3:47 pm#75 chimpeach
Your basically doing a “big papa”. Your supporting the war (your glad the Dems gave Bush the bill he wanted) while condeming the war. And I’m the one confused about people dying as we speak? Man……………
June 15th, 2007 at 3:52 pmSo JIM…
…I’ll take your silence…
…on my response to you in Post #70…
…as an…
…”Oh snap!” moment…
June 15th, 2007 at 4:04 pm“Of course I’d send more of other peoples children to die in Iraq, just look at how many we killed in NY on my watch, especially on 911. Remember, oil is thicker than blood, and American blood is expendable in reaching for the higher goal of funding the wealthy class.” said the 3 time married moralist ex-mayor of Gotham.
June 15th, 2007 at 4:08 pmOkaaay…
…so JIMbo…
…when’s your next Juliani Rally?
June 15th, 2007 at 4:12 pmby Jane E. Schneider…….Please correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Rudy open up a SEALED court record on Diallo regarding some minor arrest, just to try to prove that Diallo was a “bad guyâ€? (As if that made it okay to shoot anyone 41 times!) It just goes to show that Rudy has as much regard for the “rule of law†as Bush!
Almost, but I think you thinking of Patrick Dorismond, who was shot in a pot sale sting in 2000. By this time Ghoul-E-Anni’s support was fading. I work in NYC, and I can’t find one sane person who actually likes him. It is only some Midwestern or Southern Redneck who has to “bite the bullet”, and vote for him, even though they think he is liberal…..LOL!!! LIBERAL!!!! LIBERAL!!!
June 15th, 2007 at 4:14 pmbig papa
Your #70 post was so meaningful and engaging that, I belched while reading it. You racists are sensitive. I didn’t know I needed to respond.
Rally? I’m not a rally man, not even a pep-rally man, unless the cheerleaders are hot!!!!!!!!
June 15th, 2007 at 4:18 pmComment by swampgas — June 15, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
Thanks for the correction, swampgas, my memory’s not what it used to be!
June 15th, 2007 at 4:21 pmYour #70 post was so meaningful and engaging that, I belched while reading it.
Comment by COMMENT BY JIM #82
…good…
…you’re full…
June 15th, 2007 at 4:24 pmCBJ sounds an awful lot like Mr. Pee.
June 15th, 2007 at 4:33 pmwhen fruity rudy grabs his gloves, purse and gun, then boards the plane to baghdad, then he’ll have some credibility
June 15th, 2007 at 4:46 pmI’m really not understanding why anything this guy says is important.
Am I missing something ?
If I’m not mistaken he’s a former Mayor.
Just how is it that he goes from being a former Mayor to someone who has an important opinion related to the Iraq invasion ?
I would imagine that he has about the same military experience as Junior Bush or his Uncle Dick.
It has to be rather difficult to talk intelligently on a subject that YOU DON’T KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT .
Give him a broom and put him to sweeping the alleys of his former city.
June 15th, 2007 at 4:49 pmCBJIM
Have you served? Have you looked your fellow man in the eye, and blown his head off? Have corrupt, incompetent, politicians made you a murderer? Have you graduated from high school? Have you ever voted?
If you can answer those questions, in the affirmative, you may have something to add to this conversation.
Until then, all we can do is choose between evils. Unless you’re willing, and able, to lead the revolution; STFU!
June 15th, 2007 at 5:14 pmDon’t have time to read through all the comments.
I found rudy’s statement quite astounding: “Hey, you know, leadership is about sometimes doing the things you know are right.â€
I tend to believe that leadership is about always doing the things you know that are right, especially when for convenience sake, you’re tempted to do otherwise.
Rudy, however, prefers to qualify his stand on this issue. And it leaves me wondering what he isn’t saying:
What is leadership about the rest of the time?
Is leadership about sometimes doing the things you know are wrong?
Or the things that you know are illegal?
Or how about doing the things you know will benefit the wealthy while injuring the poor?
A definition for corruption could be: Using one’s position of power or authority for personal gain; being open to graft and bribery; bypassing legal requirements to benefit one’s friends or associates.
And this sounds like it has become business as usual for mr. guiliani.
June 15th, 2007 at 6:00 pmWow. It never occurred to me that Rudy Guiliani was a war mongering power freak.
June 15th, 2007 at 10:02 pmRudy with no military experience as when the country needed him he wouldn’t serve now has all the answers to military action. Rudy will bring back Rummy as he will follow the Bush policy of stay the course. Yes invade Iran and North Korea that just how dumb Rudy is. Now the only experience Rudy brings is how to get a new wife while cheating on the one you have. Plus cross dressing and dealing with the Mob will be brought to the White House. Mitt is scared to serve in the military to so he had his rich Daddy get him out of becoming a real man. But the money will buy what ever he needs even votes. Bush never became a man because his Daddy protected the drunk.
June 15th, 2007 at 10:17 pmAt the end of the video clip, Mr Giuliani says “if Lincoln payed attention to polls….I guess they didn’t have polls back then”, well duh!
June 15th, 2007 at 10:56 pmRON PAUL IN 2008 !!!!
June 16th, 2007 at 1:15 pmbought and paid for by “jews” and married to a cross-eyed jewess who cant recall how many times she was married…..another blackmailed idiot put on the menu by jews.
June 16th, 2007 at 4:47 pmOf course if we could “win” with some more troops, anybody would be willing to support that notion. But since there is no such thing as “Winning” in Iraq, that’s a specious argument to begin with.
When I win the Lottery you can be sure that I’ll give money to the poor, and fund some real progressive candidates across the country, and help some of my young co-workers get a good college education, and go solar etc etc etc.
But then again, I’m pretty sure I’m not going to win the lottery, so all that was just hot air, well, maybe warm air, lightly scented with Toms Spearmint Toothpaste, as opposed to pure bullshit hot air from rudy and his questioner.
And what Robert said at #89. It’s like those US Attorneys that DIDN’T make Abu G’s list, what the hell were they up to that kept them in good graces with this hideously corrupt administration?
June 18th, 2007 at 10:49 pmThere you go! When nothing else works send more troops! Even though people inside Guliani’s own party are calling for the troops to come home. Obviously this is being used to stem the tide of defections from Bush’s own party but it’s not going to work. Guliani doesn’t have any real pull with republican representatives and senators. pathetic.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:51 amWake up. Read all of these opinions from Politicians that are so far removed from the reality of what this “war” is about. KBR, General Dynamics, Toifor; mega-corporations as far as the eye can see. Drive out the gate in our ill-equipped humvee and wait to die - no end in sight. 180,000 contractors ’supporting’ the 160,000 warfighters? How? In what respect? We work everyday, 12 hours, 24 hours, 36 hours, it is all relative. I was once proud of my enlistment in this Army - now, I have no honor, we are engaged in something ignoble and fierce and the masses turn their blind eyes towards Paris Hilton. Bring us home. 11 months in this mess with the perpetual fear that I will wake up to my third and fourth tour extensions. Let this end; allow them to control their own destiny. Bring us home.
July 12th, 2007 at 5:54 amDoesn’t anyone realize that New York City WAS ATTACKED under Guiliani’s watch! That the United States WAS ATTACKED under Bush’s watch. Now they want to fight a war on terrorism…but they couldn’t even prevent a terrorist attack!
July 12th, 2007 at 11:11 amThis is another voting issue that needs to be addressed. In order that “We the people” get what we want, We have to make sure that our voting power is not stolen, manipulated, high jacked because that is how the Ilite are doing it to us. The way it is set up now, Voting is just a pleasure given to us for satifaction. It isn’t because our vote means anything.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:35 amI mean, is this guya as dumb as the Chimp!? or what? He says it’s a good thing Lincoln ldidn’t listen to popular opinion 1863, or he would have pulled out of the civil war… then he twists his “logic” all around and says it’s a good thing they didn’t have polls back then. So, how does he know what the popular opinion would have been?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:37 pmRON PAUL 2008
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
He’s got tons of support, and it’s okay to jump on the bandwagon =0)
July 12th, 2007 at 9:25 pmA while back a comment was made that Guiliani would stay in Iraq until every drop of Iraqi oil was drained from the ground
July 13th, 2007 at 3:19 amA while back a comment was made that Guiliani would stay in Iraq until every drop of OIL was drained from the ground. This incursion and the previous ” Desert Storm” is all about KEEPING IRAQI OIL—IN THE GROUND. Do you think it’s a coincidence that Jim Baker, Bush & Saudi family lawyer also advised this administration early -on in the occupation?
Saddam has always been willing to flood the oil market which was the real reason behind Desert Storm and the subsequent embargo, The UN was on the verge of lifting that embargo when the Bush&co conveniently allowed 911 to happen with the help of mostly Saudi hijackers—not an Iraqi amoung them. Sure this war is about oil but if the Saudis and Mobile/Exxon can make a lot more by selling LESS oil who would blame them?
Just remember George Bush the elder as managing director of the Carlyle Group never stopped dealing with BINLADEN Construction—sound familliar? Well what the hell old family traditions are hard to give up, Prescott, the current presidents grandfather was censured in 1942 because the firm he managed was still doing business with the Nazis—after the US entered the war.
July 13th, 2007 at 3:59 amfor the love of god http://www.NOTGULIANI.COM
July 26th, 2007 at 2:45 pm