Kyl blocks domestic surveillance subpoenas.
By on Jun 15th, 2007 at 1:21 pm
Kyl blocks domestic surveillance subpoenas.
Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ) yesterday blocked Judiciary Committee vote on whether to authorize subpoenas to obtain secret documents related to the NSA’s warrantless domestic surveillance program. Kyl’s action “will block the vote for a week,” after which the Committee will “decide whether to issue the subpoenas or use them as leverage in negotiations with the Bush administration over access to the documents.”
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Don’t the righties always say “If you haven’t done anything wrong, then you have nothing to worry about”? Prehaps Kyl should take that message to heart. What is there to hide here?
June 15th, 2007 at 1:26 pmThere’s your problem Amerika - deal with these tratoirs
June 15th, 2007 at 1:26 pmnegotiations? for negotiations? dems are PUSSIES & repukes are idiots.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:30 pmI love the HYPOCRISY from the Republicans…..
They argue all the time that it’s fine if the govt. spies on them because they have nothing to hide. The Reps state that if you did not do anything wrong, then you have nothing to worry about…..
Now, they fight tooth and nail to prevent the information from being presented to determine the LEGALITY of the program. Now, they want to hide the information and keep it away from being looked at.
If the govt. can secretly and ILLEGALLY look at my stuff, then I say turn the $hit over and let’s see if their stance holds any water……
What’s the matter R’s, affraid of another criminal indictment????
June 15th, 2007 at 1:32 pmStall while you can MoFo Kyl.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:36 pmBy the way, is it only a coincidence that Kyl’s name backwards is
lyk?
Don’t the righties always say “If you haven’t done anything wrong, then you have nothing to worry about� Prehaps Kyl should take that message to heart. What is there to hide here?
He’s not hiding anything. He’s merely delaying the vote for a week so there can be more discussion.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:36 pmSen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ)
WASHINGTON, D.C. OFFICE
730 Hart Senate Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
Phone: (202) 224-4521
Fax: (202) 224-2207
I suggest you give him a call. Or a fax. Maybe a poster about 5 feet long.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:38 pmIt’s over. The American political process is being terminated by the truly amazing heights of cynical power play being executed by the right. The pretense of ethics, morality, they’re not even making a nod to it because, to quote Bill Murray, IT JUST DOESN’T MATTER. Only Senator Kyl’s job and the profits of his patrons matters any longer. Damn the American People. Damn the American Constitution. Damn the eyes of God, we will maintain power at any cost and complicit with any crime, say the Republicans.
The NAZI party is banned in Germany. If America survives all this, it will be time to ban the Republican Party as well, because they are showing themselves toxic to liberty, justice and the American way.
They cannot be entrusted with power for at what they do.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:42 pmModern day Republicans are pathetic.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:45 pmSieg Kyl!
June 15th, 2007 at 1:47 pmHe’s not hiding anything. He’s merely delaying the vote for a week so there can be more discussion.
Comment by m12 — June 15, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
Interesting. I’m wondering where in the article given that you surmised such a thought?
And I’m also wondering, what more needs to be “discussed” at this point? Given everything that we have thus far, what more discussion is needed and in regards to what exactly? It’s patently clear that more information must be obtained via subpoenas in order to extract the necessary evidence your Administration is sufficiently blocking.
It’s also patently clear you are being deliberately obtuse.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:55 pmJohn Kyl — a pimple on the ass of progress.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:57 pmHe’s not hiding anything. He’s merely delaying the vote for a week so there can be more discussion.
Comment by m12 — June 15, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
Hey, there, You’re12! I think you’re right. And you know what? I have this bridge in New York that can be had for a bargain price… interested?
June 15th, 2007 at 1:58 pmI use to think he was a Rethug bootlicker but Kyl is a rethuglican ass crack licker.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:59 pmWouldn’t you like to know the dirt that the administration has on Kyl that would make him do the stupid shit that he (and other GOPers) are doing?
I guess he REALLY got caught up in the NSA wiretap thing.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:00 pmKyl is a good little neo-con poodle.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:04 pmWhy does the Republic Party hate our Constitution? Wow…these scum wads really must have a lot to hide. I cant wait to see them all out of office and behind bars.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:07 pmHe’s not hiding anything. He’s merely delaying the vote for a week so there can be more discussion.
Comment by m12 — June 15, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
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From what I understand he is blocking the vote, not the authorization. Shouldn’t the vote determine whether or not more time is needed for discussion?
June 15th, 2007 at 2:07 pmnow, my detailed-stuff on the
subpeona blocks — this a.m.
appears directly under the
post in the below-link. . .
kyl — what a tool. . .
so that was the early a.m., now?
i’ve spent my morning reading — yes,
actually reading! — the d.c. court of
appeals handbook on timing for emergency
motions, post-conviction, in criminal
matters where an incarceration order
has been issued. . .
along the way, i found a picture
of the esteemed lawrence s. robbins, to
boot — it seems his summer vacation plans
have been scrubbed, no?
anyway — i think my light-reading will
be of some interest to the audience
here assembled — and it dovetails nicely
with all these discussions. . .
enjoy!
June 15th, 2007 at 2:08 pmm12, another rider on the scumbags to hell train.
You are the most disgusting people in America. It is time to BAN the Republican party. They are ALL corrupt. The few that are not have by now left that criminal party. You are a disgrace to this country each and every one of you. Kyl is pure scum who is blocking any and every move towards transparent honest govt. that he can. I hope they ALL are tried and convicted and are put behind bars where they belong. We are not going to stop until you are.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:11 pmAnd if you think weaselling yet another interim appt. for US atorney into office will help you avoid prosecuting that scum Jerry Lewis, think AGAIN. He is going to jail and many will celebrate.
Libby got his ass hung out to dry HA HA
if he thought those lying treasonous bosses of his would have his back he now knows differently. I hope he sings like ol’ Jack Abramoff is. I hope he sees that the only way to improve his lot is to TELL THE TRUTH.
you make me sick m12 and all of your ilk.
on the kyl thing, though. . .
sen. leahy will go forward in a week.
it seems unlikely that gonzales
will turn over the warrantless wiretap
documents re legality opinions without
a subpoena, given that they wouldn’t
turn over the firing stuff without one.
so — again — subpoenas in six days!
June 15th, 2007 at 2:11 pmNofltwit~
June 15th, 2007 at 2:12 pmI agree that dems and rethugs are doing an NSA marionette show. Once the DOJ is disabled and the warrantless wiretapping is stopped…the GOP is done.
Nice work nolo!
Thanks
June 15th, 2007 at 2:12 pmJust so everyone knows and doesn’t waste their money, “senator” Kyl’s phone rolls over to a recording saying his “mailbox is full”
June 15th, 2007 at 2:21 pmapparently many are letting him know how they feel about his efforts to slow progress towards ending corruption.
jerk.
Kyl’s trying to save face with his base, which are all pissed off at him for supporting Amnesty in the Immigration issue.
Yeah, it sure makes you wonder what NSA found on him, eh?
June 15th, 2007 at 2:21 pmExcuse me but how can one Senator block a vote by a committee? We need to do something to change our system of government where one legislator never has the power to stop the rest from doing something. There is something wrong with this picture.
You know, Mr. Kyl, the American public is smart enough to figure out that if your party is so determined not to allow the committees to get what they ask for, then they know that you are hiding something really bad. I guess that the Republics think that the bad publicity they get from obstructing the investigations is not as bad as the publicity they will get when Pandora’s box is opened.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:32 pmHi everyone. Since Kyl’s phone is full, send him a message. Go to:
http://kyl.senate.gov/contact.cfm
and fill out the form. Make up an address and leave the state as Arizona, otherwise the system will probably reject your e-mail.
Let’s let this jerk know what the nation thinks about him!
June 15th, 2007 at 2:37 pm#27 cont’d
Use Phoenix as the city and 85003 as the zip. It works like a charm!
June 15th, 2007 at 2:40 pmDelay, obstruct, divert, rinse, repeat.
IGNORE THE TROLLS - Debate good, m12 bad
June 15th, 2007 at 2:49 pmthere go the obstructionist Republicants again…
June 15th, 2007 at 2:56 pmGood recommendation, Katie…my brief note follows~~
June 15th, 2007 at 3:04 pmAny bets that the Repukes were spying on their oppsition ?How many congresspeople you think had their phones bugged ?
June 15th, 2007 at 3:43 pmChadwick said it all. Here, here.
June 15th, 2007 at 5:00 pmI have two questions. Is this an attempt to find out about the program we know about, or to find out about the one(s) we don’t know about? Are we finding about the spies, or the spies who spy on the spies? This is a paranoid delight!
June 15th, 2007 at 5:10 pm#11
It says right in the article that he is blocking the vote for a week’s time. Democrats on the same committee have been “delaying” the vote on the President’s judicial nominations several times as of late, and my guess is Kyl is following suit.
June 15th, 2007 at 5:57 pmAny bets that the Repukes were spying on their oppsition ?How many congresspeople you think had their phones bugged ?
Comment by DutchHenry — June 15, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
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Guaranteed. That’s why Bush personally blocked an investigation into warrantless wiretapping:
In July 2006 it was revealed that the Office of Professional Responsibility in the Justice Department — the office “responsible for investigating allegations of misconduct involving Department attorneys” — repeatedly attempted to investigate whether DOJ lawyers acted improperly concerning their role in the President’s warrantless eavesdropping program, but finally stopped their investigation because the President refused to give them the security clearances they needed to conduct the investigation.
Yet the President had no problem giving clearance to individuals, some who where civilians, when he wanted to find out who had leaked information regarding the warrantless wiretapping program to the public.
June 15th, 2007 at 8:32 pmFood for thought re: warrantless wiretapping…
Addressing privacy concerns prompted by the program, [Gen.] Hayden said, “We know we can only do our job if we have the trust of the American people.”
The general said, “We’re going after very specific communications that our professional judgment tells us we have reason to believe are those associated with people who want to kill Americans.”
Source: http://www.cnn.com/ 2006/ POLITICS/ 01/ 23/ nsa.strategy/ index.html
“There are multiple checks and balances to make sure what we’re doing is targeting … international phone calls of terrorists, not the conversations between two families coordinating a family vacation,” Bartlett said. “We have very strict laws, very strict oversight. This is a targeted program, and I think most of the American people would be very angry if they thought we weren’t doing just this.”
Bush: “We know that a two-minute phone conversation between somebody linked to al Qaeda here and an operative overseas could lead directly to the loss of thousands of lives,” Bush said. “To save American lives, we must be able to act fast and to detect these conversations so we can prevent new attacks.”
He also said that the electronic monitoring was limited to people with “known al Qaeda ties and/or affiliates.” Any domestic calls, the president said, would go through the secretive FISA court.
Bush: “We know that a two-minute phone conversation between somebody linked to al Qaeda here and an operative overseas could lead directly to the loss of thousands of lives,” Bush said. “To save American lives, we must be able to act fast and to detect these conversations so we can prevent new attacks.”
1. If the program targets a specific group of individuals (known or suspected terrorists), then Bush should have no problem with oversight.
2. If we have one terrorist operative in Los Angeles calling another one in Dallas to give the go-ahead for an attack…I believe this qualifies as a domestic call since it originates and ends in the U.S….Bush runs to the FISA court to get a warrant. He’s not concerned about acting fast and preventing attacks in this situation. But he is when the conversation involves an international aspect.
June 15th, 2007 at 8:39 pmJust so everyone knows and doesn’t waste their money, “senator†Kyl’s phone rolls over to a recording saying his “mailbox is fullâ€
apparently many are letting him know how they feel about his efforts to slow progress towards ending corruption.
jerk.
Comment by Justice — June 15, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
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We can only hope that his mailbox is full of complaints. However, I wouldn’t put it past him to program his answering system to appear full when it isn’t.
The technology is there; years ago when I worked tech support for an Internet company, when too many calls started coming in and the queue was full, the administrators would “throttle” the calls. End result: the system would just hang up on people when they called. No “all lines are busy. Please call back at a later time.”
June 15th, 2007 at 8:47 pm#
#11
It says right in the article that he is blocking the vote for a week’s time. Democrats on the same committee have been “delaying†the vote on the President’s judicial nominations several times as of late, and my guess is Kyl is following suit.
Comment by m12 — June 15, 2007 @ 5:57 pm
Well then you just contradicted yourself. Your original premise was that he was delaying for more discussion, but now you state it’s a tit-for-tat. Again I wonder where you’ve obtained information of his rationale from that article (or any article for that matter), but your idle speculation doesn’t cut the mustard.
Besides, wanna take a wild stab at how many judges your GOP boys delayed and blocked for Clinton, compared to how many judges the Democrats have blocked for Bush? I’ll give you a wee little hint, it’s not even comparable…….
June 16th, 2007 at 12:31 am#39
The GOP Senate was much more favorable to President Clinton than the Dem Senate is now.
In 1999-2000, the GOP Senate confirmed 16 circuit nominations in the last 2 years of Clinton’s term. The current Senate is at 3.
June 16th, 2007 at 1:31 amKyl…another Bush toady…big surprise.
June 16th, 2007 at 3:56 amm12,
Re: #40, if we take your claim as fact. Then, this congress is just about
on track to confirm 16 nominations over a two year period.
You see, we’re not even 6 months (1/4) of the way in to the 2 year period, and as per your claim the Dems have confirmed 3. It is not unreasonable to extrapolate that to close to 16 at that rate over the next 1 1/2 years.
Oh yeah, and the DOJ from ‘99-’00 wasn’t a dysfunctional, incompetent, likely criminal enterprise that was under intense scrutiny involving illegal behavior by MANY of the top people from within.
It is not possible to fairly compare the two (16 vs. 3) using ANY objective standard. I hope that the Senate confirms ZERO nominees until the DOJ and Executive Branch begin to act like the co-equal branch of government that they are under the Constitution.
June 16th, 2007 at 10:22 amI live in Chandler, AZ and Kyl is a toadie for the wealthy developers we have so many of out here. You had better believe he is a lock-step boot licker, just look at the smug little smile he always has on his stupid face.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:50 pmOh, BTW, #10 sieg kyl- GOOD ONE!!