“Talk radio is running America.
By on Jun 15th, 2007 at 10:55 am
“Talk radio is running America.
We have to deal with that problem.” — Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS), who supports comprehensive immigration reform, explaining why right-wing conservatives were able to torpedo the legislation last week.
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Oh Trent, is it all Rush’s fault? It wasn’t his fault when he helped you guys elected, or when he calls Obama, “The MAgic Negro.” But now that you can’t get what you want out of him, NOW you’re aggravated?
June 15th, 2007 at 10:58 amTrent Lott and I agree on something…
…I think I’m gonna be sick…
…yecch!
June 15th, 2007 at 11:00 amTalk about the pot and kettle. Right wing radio is great while it’s touting whatever talking point they want put out to the populace. As soon as it disagrees, it’s left wing, liberal media.
STFU, Lott. You and your ilk make me sick to my stomach.
Bought and paid for by corporate lobbyists. Let’s get more people in here legally to continue to erode our wages and give corporations slave labor. Everyone loses, but the rich. But if not slave labor here, it’s slave labor overseas. Same diff.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:04 amWrong. Only 23% of Americans approve of congress. Lott and Bush and Hillary want America to be a country contrary to American’s desires.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:05 amRightard Talk Radio is Ruining America.
Broward Co in Florida is actually pulling Limpdick & Insannity.
Anyone have more details?
June 15th, 2007 at 11:07 amDon’t look back at the extreme right-wing radio, Lott. You might turn into a pillar of salt.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:10 amUS Army Wants to Enlist Illegal Aliens Quickly as Recruitment Falls
Officials Hope to Rekindle Interest in Immigration Bill Provision
http://www.defenselink.mil/ / news/ newsarticle.aspx?id=46369
June 15th, 2007 at 11:12 amHey, that’s what I said when we lost in 2000 and when we lost in 2004!!!
We must silence the oppossition, we have always said that we must step on the Freedom of Speech and Press of right wing radio!!!
yes, we must shut the mouth of anyone in the media that doesn’t tow the government line.
Finally, Senator Trett Lot has joined forces with us. He has seen the light.
We have been crying, whinning and squealing like pigs about the right wing talk radio having so much power and influence. The way to deal with them is not trying to create Liberal radio programs. As you all know AirAmerica was a complete and utter failure. Go figure, if Liberals are left to compete in the free market arean, our ideas do not succeed. Who would have thought it, right?
so the way to deal with this problem is by silencing anyone that doesn’t tow the Democratic and/or government line. We must step on the freedoms that our Constitution guarantees to American citizens, we must step on the right wing radio hosts freedom of speech and press!!!
this is an idea we, the Democratic party, has been pushing for a long time now. Now that Lott is with us, no one will stop us!!!
yes, what we need is more NPR, more PBS, more government controlled and funded news stations. Screw freedom of speech and press!!
join me my fellow Democratic sheeps, join me my tools in taking away these Constitutional rights of these right wing radio talk heads.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:16 amPoor Trent, Radio Hutu has come back to bite his flaccid, seer-suckered, pasty and dimpled ass.
Don’t ask me how I know that much about Trent Lott’s ass. We used to be cheerleaders together.
-GSD
June 15th, 2007 at 11:17 amTalk Radio is running America , that is Bullshit . the problem with Talk Radio is unlike the TV News and Print News Media , Talk Radio is not Dominated by Liberals . For Liberals shutting it down is a MUST.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:20 amDid he say “running” or “ruining”? I guess it’s the same thing either way.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:20 amlott is exactly right, though why this would concern him is puzzling.
doing something about the false information routinely broadcast by some talk radio shows, though, is not all that hard
if the political will is there.
you start with congressional investigations and hearings involving the heads of the corporations that support talk radio shows.
you insist the corporate chiefs explain why their corporation supports false information and false accusations being made by their media stars like limbaugh, boortz.
you hold these corporations responsible for the content of their shows and remove their public licensing if they fail to co-operate.
then you re-institute the “fairness” rule (both sides must be represented in public commentary)
which the fcc abandoned in 1986, which abandonment lead to the rise of irresponsible talk radio.
this would be a good start.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:25 amPresident Harry Truman,
yes Mr. President, we MUST shut down right wing radio. How dare they speak their mind, how dare they excersice freedom of speech and press?!!!!
where can you find any of these rights are guaranteed to the right wingers?!
The American Constitution only applies to Liberals, to Democratic members. It doesn’t apply to Republican pundits or politicians!!!!
how dare does right wing radio cause the immigration bill to die, how dare they cause Al Gore to lose in 2000 and how dare they cause Kerry to lose in 2004!!!
it has nothing to do with us Liberals putting up ridiculous, incompetent, out of touch, care more about power and polls than protecting Americans politicians.
We do not have to take responsability for our actions, that is what we tell our voters and that is how we act!!!
so the way to win is to step on the freedom of speech and press of right wing radio!
who is with me?!!!!! Let’s march against Hannity, against Limbaugh, let’s stone them, let’s tar and feather them. Let us show them that they dont’ have any Constitutional rights, let us show them that the Constitution only applies to us Liberlas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 15th, 2007 at 11:25 amWhy does Trent Lott hate free speech? Must be that his hair piece is a tad too tight?
June 15th, 2007 at 11:25 amComment by Harry Truman — June 15, 2007 @ 11:22 am
I like to go with the “Roots” approach:
YOUR NAME IS TOBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 15th, 2007 at 11:27 amorionATL,
ahhhh, a man after my own heart. Let us act like the Communists, like the Nazis and demand that people only spew out liberal talking points and what WE Liberals say is the truth!!!
yes, just like my nazi and communist friends, the American government must decide what informaton is false and what information is truth!
and all those that don’t two the Liberal “truths” must be held accountable.
ahhh….I love little Nazis like you.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:27 amAll sorts of people hate this immigration bill. Why not just enforce existing laws?
June 15th, 2007 at 11:29 amAlejandro,
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it is not often that I run into tools and sheeps that can actually think for themselves.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:30 ampresident clinton/valintthehater
it was better yesterday when you weren’t here adding nothing to the conversation.
(Go ahead. Start calling me a nazi, a fool, a libtard, communist, left wing tool. After all, it is the only thing you add here.)
June 15th, 2007 at 11:33 amPresident Clinton,
I know you love free speech and the constitution, but can you reassign your screeching wife elsewhere? Advise her to create no sound clips and make no speeches for others to recap. America needs to keep their hearing, I’m begging you.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:34 amAlso, President Clinton, good job with earning $10,000,000 last year for blabbing into a microphone. What made your talking so lucrative all of a sudden?
June 15th, 2007 at 11:36 amNobody is really “running” the country right now.
GDumbya and the Keystone Kops are running down the country, its military and its reputation.
Right-wing talk radio is just doing what it always does — running its mouth.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:38 amWell, there you go again.
Michael Savage is perfectly right of course–we must kill all the homos, ragheads, and “nazi tools” who don’t toe the line of Tlak Rdaio.
We’re just trying to figure out the best way.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:40 amre: #21
At least people are interested in hearing Clinton speak and are willing to pay him.
Poor GDumbya won’t be invited anywhere after he leaves office. He won’t be able to get a gig even if he pays people $10 million to listen to him.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:40 amThe Republican party appears to be heading for a major crack-up. The party has long exploited evangelicals, but does not necessarily control them, and certainly does not represent their economic interests. The party has also long catered to racists, another important party voting bloc. Here too the party can never fully satisfy this group without hurting the economic interests of their true masters, the top 1%, the plutocrats who profit by exploiting cheap imported labor. Right wing radio has been a critical propaganda tool for the party to deceive these groups of people, and clearly as least some talk radio hosts have colluded with the party to spread its daily talking points. But there is a lot of tension in this arrangement threatening to blow the party apart.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:43 amSomeone must have spiked the trolls morning Postum.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:44 amPoor Trent. He and his racist buds were so happy running the country (or at least Mississippi), and now racists who are even more racist than he are making things difficult for him. It must be so difficult to be a wingnut, trying to balance your greed with your hatred.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:45 amTP scrubbed my post…
Poster #8…
…you’re still a COWARD…
…for not using your own original moniker…
June 15th, 2007 at 11:46 amI agree with Lott.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:47 amWe should ban Talk Radio, Fox and the Republican Party.
We should have no more Elections and have the Democrats selected for life.
Our Great Mother Hillary will create a censor board and allow only Leftwing views in the news.
Censorship is good!
#21 People willingly pay Bill Clinton large sums because he is a captivating speaker. This might be a surprise to a Communist party member such as yourself, but in this country people should be free to sell their services at a market price.
The market price for a speech by Bush will be $0, by the way. I think that bubble boy will be shocked when he realizes he has become a persona non grata. I can’t wait to see him snubbed by his own party at the GOP convention, and the bitter intra-party fight over what his role should be there.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:50 amComment by VerbalKint
The Communist party is for liberals. I am not a liberal. Please don’t deny the existence of the radical element within your own party.
Imperialism - Conservatives
June 15th, 2007 at 11:53 amCommunism - Libecrats
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 15, 2007 @ 11:53 am
Don’t even bother CT.
People around here throw around words without even knowing what they mean.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:55 amHow very odd, self described “Christian fundamentalist Conservative” who lost his leadership position for praising one of America’s most notoriously racist politicians now wants to shut up right wing talk radio, and post after post wrongly claims that it is the Democrats who made the suggestion. From reading those bizarre posts, my conclusion is that the right wingers either didn’t read Lot’s comments, can’t read them, or simply can’t understand plain English. Just for the sake of helping out literacy challenged crypto fascist (look it up) bloggers quoted above, the “(R-MS)” means Lott is a REPUBLICAN and that is as it should be. His views track well with the right’s long standing desire to see dissent as treason and treat it as such. It is my fervent hope that, as progressives suffered under the Patriot Act, the McCarty Era and during the Mitchell-Palmer raids, right wing talk radio hosts will have the chance to experience being perp walked into court. The day I see Inannity, Limpballs, Scarebourough, Rev. Dogson and O’Liely held responsible for the damage they’ve done to discourse, I plan on contact the others in my Communist cell and having a party.
June 15th, 2007 at 11:58 amso clinton, what does it feel like to try your best at inciting a flame war and it just peters out?
June 15th, 2007 at 11:59 am“but in this country people should be free to sell their services at a market price.”
-Comment by VerbalKint
Nice to see you selectively applying a Republican principle you would otherwise hate. If you don’t like the Republicans, don’t borrow their ideas, including the the “free market” one. Don’t like free trade? Then don’t run your mouth. Think gasoline needs price fixing? Then you don’t support a “market price.”
The complaint with Clinton is that he gets all of that money for such little output. A speech has nothing to do with “market value.”
June 15th, 2007 at 12:00 pmIf Mr. Lott actually means what he says. It would be a good idea to bring the fairness in broadcasting act back that was dissolved in the late 80’s early 90’s. (best guess, sorry)
That would end the nonsense you hear spouted on the radio real quick.
My god, please tell me WHY that wasn’t a good idea.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:00 pm“president clinton”
you really are a ranting fool.
1)accuracy in public discourse is not a matter of party
or of liberal or conservative affiliation.
it is a matter of what conforms with reality.
2) my suggestion was to investigate the corporate executives who support inaccurate talk radio.
in other words,
follow the money.
much of the inaccuracy and viciousness in talk radio is commercially planned.
like advertising, it is deliberately designed to manipulate emotions and to sell product by doing so
3) the “fairness doctrine” was in place for decades prior to 1986 when the reagan administration FCC abandoned it.
shortly thereafter began the reign of the talk show know-nothings, e.g., g. gordon “shoot’em in the head” liddy, oliver north, rush limbaugh, et al.
4) were you not the ranting fool your are,
you would see that your own argument expresses fear that corporations might be forced to stop supporting false allegations and false facts.
if talk shows focused on truth and opinion, their supporting corporations would not have any problem
now would they
fool.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:01 pmComment by Mr. President
I know it’s an uphill battle. These people think way too highly of themselves, regardless of the history or whatever real evidence you throw in their face. Well, you probably know that already.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:02 pmPlease bring back the fairness in broadcasting act that was stricken in the late 80’s, early 90’s. (forgot exact date, sorry)
That would end this propoganda on both sides and literally captsize Fox News.
It is simply wrong to have opinion disguised as news.
simple facts would have not allowed this mess to occur.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:04 pmThurmond’s bitch is a f’n idiot.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:04 pmUmmm..yes it does. A “speech” or anything else you can put a price tag on becomes a marketable item. I think your problem is that bush wouldn’t make a dime for his drivel.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:04 pmCompTROLLER V-1,
“The complaint with Clinton is that he gets all of that money for such little output. A speech has nothing to do with “market value.—
Why doesn’t it? I thought people were to get what ever the market will bear for goods/services.
Tony Robbins had a made a fortune off of doing nothing more than speaking to people. Why shouldn’t anyone else?
June 15th, 2007 at 12:07 pmTalk radio exposed the immigration bill for what it was.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:09 pmPity the poor conservatives… what’s it like to be so dispised, so hated by ordinary people? What’s it feel like defending people who attack the 9/11 widows?
June 15th, 2007 at 12:09 pmDid you feel a pang of regret for supporting these idiots? Even during the Teri Schiavo disaster? Even Hurricane Katrina? “Heckuva job Brownie?” and your great hero bush becoming a national joke?
June 15th, 2007 at 12:13 pmBut who are the dangerous radical element?
The incendiary right-wing GOP dittoheads, Coulterites, and Gracelesses spewing their venom 24/7 on our airwaves.
The unconscionably greedy GOP controlled corportations which funded the effort to steal our 1949 Fairness Doctrine which merely
allowed both sides of an argument to be fairly represented.
The despicably undemocratic GOP corporate destroyers of our republic who manufactured and implemented Diebold and other rigged voting machines in an attempt to replace triple-verified citizen monitored hand-counted paper ballots; a system which
worked just fine for 200+ years, for the sole purpose of stealing our U.S. elections.
The poisonous nuclear and petrochemical GOP controlled corporations, the GOP controlled corporations downsizing, outsourcing and giving away U.S. jobs to anyone but Americans
and colluding not to enforce our borders, but to remove them to become MexAmeriCanada, the GOP corporatist merchants of death and destruction who prey upon American kids lives by arming the world to the teeth under the guise of “defense”, then fomenting as many wars as possible, the GOP controlled prison and surveillance corporations who have turned America into a Police State nazi dictatorship, and who push their agendas of paranoia, fear and jingoistic racism and class warfare right back through their wholly-owned media, and the cycle begins again, all while entirely supressing energy alternatives which have existed for 100 years in order to lock in the profits from their wholly corrupt game.
Apparently the brave patriotic freedom-loving scripture abiding right-wing GOP never can and never will win any actually free and fair contest which is not rigged, stacked, slanted and warped 90 degrees in their favor.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:14 pm“The complaint with Clinton is that he gets all of that money for such little output. A speech has nothing to do with “market value.â€â€
Ever heard of an intangible good?
June 15th, 2007 at 12:16 pmCompTroller and the rest of the idiot far-right trollshits are just insanely jealous that Clinton can actually give a speech that people happily pay to hear. there are no complaints, by the way, about clinton’s speeches or fees, except from traitors who are envious of an intelligent statesman capitalizing on his successful presidency. Hypocracy run amuck in redstate ‘murka, as usual.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:16 pmComment by Dr.Know
Well, Dr. KnowNothing, if you can complain about overpaid CEO’s, I can complain about someone whose payout probably requires less work than most of these “overpaid” CEO’s. I don’t think you can come out a winner here.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:17 pmComment by JPark
Ever heard of someone getting overpaid for their services? You bash the non-liberal types on that all the time.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:18 pmPAY ATTENTION TO ME!
I couldn’t get people to pay attention to me when I posted as a normal troll, so I’m back to pretending to be one of the most popular presidents of all time (even though she hasn’t been elected yet).
I know it’s pathetic, but foir me, it’s either this or watching Hogan’s Heroes on cable.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:20 pm“Well, Dr. KnowNothing, if you can complain about overpaid CEO’s-”
And where did I say that?
“I don’t think you can come out a winner here.”
Tell you what, you get some quotes right and then I’ll let you know who the winners are, mmmm’k?
June 15th, 2007 at 12:21 pmComment by ronjazz
Hypocrisy runs wild when Liberals denounce Capitalism, then use it to finance their jazzy lifestyles.
If you had a better idea at becoming rich than Republicans did, we should of heard it by now. Well, speak up!
June 15th, 2007 at 12:22 pmI had a groundhog problem and one of the solutions was to keep a radio on 24/7 which I did.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:23 pmI went outside the first day and my husband had inadvertantly chose am am station and who was chatting away? Rush.
Needless to say, my groundhog problem has dissapeared.
He hated Rush as much as I do!!!
“Ever heard of someone getting overpaid for their services? You bash the non-liberal types on that all the time.”
What are you spouting about?
June 15th, 2007 at 12:23 pmWhat exactly constitutes a “jazzy” lifestyle?
June 15th, 2007 at 12:23 pmComment by Dr.Know
That’s what those types do. They complain against the successful and threaten to tax them to death, especially if they are to the right politically.
“Tell you what, you get some quotes right and then I’ll let you know who the winners are, mmmm’k?”
Sorry, we don’t hire Liberals to be effective judges.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:24 pmStill having trouble with quotes I see…
June 15th, 2007 at 12:26 pmComment by Dr.Know
[Ignore list initiation]
June 15th, 2007 at 12:27 pm[Reason: asks stupid questions, is a libetard, is a libetroll, can figure absolutely nothing for himself.]
Comment by Dr.Know
I speaking of what liberals love to do, you don’t have to say it out loud in order for me to effectively point it out.
Really, get over yourself.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:28 pmComment by JPark
Choose to be braindead. It doesn’t mean the evidence doesn’t exist.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:29 pmDr. KnowonlywhatIseefit.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:30 pmAwww..did I hurt your feelings? Poor little flower. Let me try to explain nice and slow so you can follow along. You attribute the wrong quote to someone, try to squirm away from your mistake, then fallback to insults(nd not even clever ones.) in a desperate attempt to cover up. Ok? That’s you. Now, get a quote right, have a clever comeback or make a point and I’ll be happy to dismantel your limbaugh approved talking points.
All better?
June 15th, 2007 at 12:34 pmDid you actually type “I speaking?”
June 15th, 2007 at 12:35 pmComment by Dr.Know
Summary of your statement: Talking Points ™, Useless Technobabble ™
Do you know what a t-y-p-o means? I’m glad you choose to point out meaningless, trivial crap.
The irony…
June 15th, 2007 at 12:41 pmOh and while your trying to think up another post, explain what this “jazzy” lifestyle is. I need to know for the next gay wedding/abortion mill fundraiser I go to in Hollywood.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:42 pm“I’m glad you choose to point out meaningless, trivial crap.”
Well you give me so much to choose from. Please post something relevant then if your above such useless trivial stuff like how rich Clinton is. Jelous much?
June 15th, 2007 at 12:45 pmSomeone must have spiked the trolls morning Postum.
Comment by gummitch
I wish somebody had just spiked the trolls.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:45 pmIn response to concerns about the recent errant messaging behavior of CompTROLLER V-1, we have to announce that CT V-1 went “offline†several weeks ago. We sent out several technicians but as they are skilled only in the latest technology, they could do little with the antiquated programming architecture and physical plant of CT V-1.
As near as we can tell, its fact-distortion algorithm was corrupted when it actually tried to grapple logically with a fact-based argument from one of TP’s longtime posters. When the facts kept adding up against the position held by CT V-1, it apparently blew a circuit board, which is why we now advise our troll-American employees against actually addressing arguments head-on.
Our field ops told us the best thing to do would be to let CT V-1 roam the blogosphere, and its batteries would probably run out of juice before its screwed-up logic did too much damage to our side. Unfortunately, the batteries were the only thing that were built well on the thing. They’re the same batteries that the Mars Rover had.
Therefore, our best recommendation is, if you enounter CT V-1, please try not to draw any attention to it. It can only hurt our side.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:46 pmComment by Dr.Know
My comments have merit. The only pointers you have are useless - typos and words you should look up in the dictionary. If you don’t know what something means, don’t take it out on me.
My comments stand.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:48 pmComment by RNC Troll Dept
Reminder: The Republican National Committee has no such “troll department.” Please disregard the obviously fraudulent and unacknowledged extension of this organization.
I repeat: please disregard its unauthorized findings.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:51 pmLott = Less
June 15th, 2007 at 12:54 pmAre the troll here always so pitiable?
Or are these fiendishly clever DNC operatives paid to make Republicans look like mentally retarded inbred morons?
P.S — By the way, liberty and free markets are historically an idea of the left — go read your Locke, Bentham and Adam Smith (a raging leftie by modern standards, as anyone who actually read his work will know). Fittingly, the Republican Party has now fully returned to the ideas that have historically been embraced by the right: social oligarchy and corporate oligopoly.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:54 pm“My comments have merit.”
Oh but they don’t. You misquote and insult, and thats some shitty sand to build a “comment” on. I totally understand of course, If I had such a shallow bag of tricks like you I’d rely on the old standards too. But since you brought it up, why shouldn’t Clinton make as much as he can for his speaches? Are you against the free market? Are you a communist? Or are you just really, REALLY burned that the hated Clinton is making soooo much money, enjoys such popularity while your guy, bush, is bashed by his own party!? I mean did you even see the last debate? It was incredible, i mean..it ..was..it..hey, are you crying?
June 15th, 2007 at 12:55 pmComment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 15, 2007 @ 11:53 am
Don’t even bother CT.
People around here throw around words without even knowing what they mean.
Comment by Mr. President
You two should know. Annoying people is easy, that’s all you two do. Having coherent opinions of your own, well neither of you would know about that. All you do is copy talking points and spew them here.
Oh and look at the subject of the thread idiots, Trent Lott is complaining about Talk Radio. How do you blame that on liberals? When the facts get in the way of your rant you two both just ignore them.
Anyway, I think the circle jerk you two carry on around here is adorable. Keep up the stroking.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:56 pmComment by shane — June 15, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
Shane, you’re being hurtful.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:58 pmNice to see you selectively applying a Republican principle you would otherwise hate. If you don’t like the Republicans, don’t borrow their ideas, including the the “free market†one. Don’t like free trade? Then don’t run your mouth. Think gasoline needs price fixing? Then you don’t support a “market price.â€
The complaint with Clinton is that he gets all of that money for such little output. A speech has nothing to do with “market value.â€
Comment by CompTROLLER V
Now it’s time for a Hollywood liberal rant and you telling us how they make too much money and have too much power. We’re waitng.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:59 pmI know it’s an uphill battle. These people think way too highly of themselves, regardless of the history or whatever real evidence you throw in their face. Well, you probably know that already.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Oh just tell Mr. President how much you love him and get it over with already. You’re drooling all over the place.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:01 pm“The complaint with Clinton is that he gets all of that money for such little output. A speech has nothing to do with “market value.â€â€
Ever heard of an intangible good?
Comment by JPark
Oh don’t confuse CT, just wait, he’s getting ready to accuse me of beating small children. I’d gladly watch somebody kick is fat ass though.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:03 pmComment by Dr.Know
You simply disagree, that’s how you see my comments to “have no merit.” You likely make much more of an issue when an ex-Republican politician/appointee finds lucrative work. You’re only showing your hypocrisy, that’s a fact.
Heck, when Gerald Ford stepped down as President, the left criticized him for sitting on “too many” corporate boards. Can’t be too rich if you’re a Republican now.
I also remember how TP bashed former JCS Chairman Richard Myers for finding work on Northrop Grumman’s board for a measly figure ($200,000 yr.) when compared to Clinton’s mic blabbing about his overrated Presidency.
Run along, please.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:03 pmComment by JPark
Choose to be braindead. It doesn’t mean the evidence doesn’t exist.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
So you agree JPark would have a choice. Too bad you don’t, DeadFromtheNeckUp CT.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:06 pmMy comments have merit.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Uh, no they don’t. Even Mr. President know’s that. Poor pathetic fool.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:08 pmComment by Shane
I’m waiting for the technical argument from liberals on how Exxon’s former CEO supposedly “had too big of a retirement package” despite many years of good service to the company.
Well, I mean, you’re not going to bash the Hollywood liberals, right? They do no more work than those CEO’s you complain about. If anything, less. And what’s their pay? Usually FAR more than their CEO’d counterparts.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:08 pmComment by shane — June 15, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
Shane, you’re being hurtful.
Comment by Mr. President
I thought you neocons were tough. Buck up so you can go sign up for Iraq.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:09 pmComment by Shane
You’re just a crazy old geezer who can’t think straight. You should set more time to tend to those usual oldie impediments - Beano ™, Gold Bond Foot Powder ™, and Medicare pamphlets.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:11 pmWell, I mean, you’re not going to bash the Hollywood liberals, right? They do no more work than those CEO’s you complain about. If anything, less. And what’s their pay? Usually FAR more than their CEO’d counterparts.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Why don’t you go do some research on CEO benefits and the exponential increase previously unseen. And when I get back from the movies maybe you’ll have learned something.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:11 pmExactly. Aren’t these co*k sucking trolls always talking about how they own talk radio? I like how they say they own talk radio, then call it liberal media.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:12 pm“I’d gladly watch somebody kick is fat ass though.”
Comment by Shane
I like those “peace” liberals. Hag-lady.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:13 pmSo… is it Talk Radio that’s informing the great unwashed masses about politics, eh? Humph.
[from: http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=172&a=2379 ]
New opinion polls released this week show mounting discontent within the American population over the war in Iraq and the policies of both political parties. They reflect deep and bitter opposition to the Bush administration, but also reveal that just six months after the Democrats took control of Congress, masses of Americans who voted Democratic to express their opposition to the Iraq war are disillusioned and angry over the Democrats’ cowardice and complicity with Bush…
The fall in support for the Democrats reflects more than anything else anger over the passage of the $100 billion war-funding bill in May….
It seems to me that Talk Radio has nothing what so ever to do with how the public feels. The politicians themselves are responsible.
Imagine that.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:13 pmYou’re just a crazy old geezer who can’t think straight. You should set more time to tend to those usual oldie impediments - Beano ™, Gold Bond Foot Powder ™, and Medicare pamphlets.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
I’m not that old dickwad. What’s a matter. Mr. President tell you he was interested in that way so your taking it out on all of us. Off to see Nancy Drew, get back to me with CEO data if you can extrapolate the meaning.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:13 pmComment by Dr.Know
[Ignore list initiation]
[Reason: asks stupid questions, is a libetard, is a libetroll, can figure absolutely nothing for himself.]
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 15, 2007 @ 12:27 pm
Comment by Dr.Know
I speaking of what liberals love to do, you don’t have to say it out loud in order for me to effectively point it out.
Really, get over yourself.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 15, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
Dr. KnowonlywhatIseefit.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 15, 2007 @ 12:30 pm
Comment by Dr.Know
Summary of your statement: Talking Points â„¢, Useless Technobabble â„¢
Do you know what a t-y-p-o means? I’m glad you choose to point out meaningless, trivial crap.
The irony…
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 15, 2007 @ 12:41 pm
Having a little trouble with that “Ignore List Initiation”, there, CT?
June 15th, 2007 at 1:13 pm“I’d gladly watch somebody kick is fat ass though.â€
Comment by Shane
I like those “peace†liberals. Hag-lady.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
I have a shotgun under my bed, princess. Want to look down the barrel?
June 15th, 2007 at 1:14 pmPseudo-Professor Mark Colby, your presence is wanted at the
June 15th, 2007 at 1:16 pm“Colbert makes the case for Holsinger” thread.
Comment by Shane
Oh I have learned something. Look at some salaried figures of some top liberal movie stars. They FAR exceed most paid CEO’s. Heck, you’ve got some CEOs taking $1 on their yearly salaries. How many movie stars accept that?
I know the official stats, you refuse to look at them.
A liberal senile fool is no better than a conservative one.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:16 pmComment by Shane
Keep on haggy. YeeHaw!!!!
Shane: “Oh, see that! Two men must be talking, they must be homos!”
Grow up, lady. You’ve grown old, but that’s about it.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:19 pm“You likely make much more of an issue when an ex-Republican politician/appointee finds lucrative work. You’re only showing your hypocrisy, that’s a fact.”
You’re a big fish in a little barrell compy, this is getting easy.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:20 pmPlease point out when I have taken issue with a republican making money. Go ahead..I’m waiting.. well? C’mon it’s going to show my hypocrisy right? So show it. Ohhh, right. I haven’t! See, you’re stuck making things up as you go along.
Now, back to relevant questions that you avoid like, why shouldn’t Clinton make as much as people are willing to pay him? WHY does that bother you so much?
Comment by Shane
You don’t actually expect me to take of your senile crap seriously, do you?
(Liberal owns a gun! Confiscate immediately! Sheer hypocrisy siren won’t shut off!)
June 15th, 2007 at 1:21 pmLook at some salaried figures of some top liberal movie stars. They FAR exceed most paid CEO’s. Heck, you’ve got some CEOs taking $1 on their yearly salaries. How many movie stars accept that?
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 15, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
Maybe you’d better learn what the term “salaried” means, as opposed to “freelance”.
Hollywood stars negotiate contracts for each job they take on. Those negotiations turn on perceived market value — just as CEOs salaires do. The difference is, those stars who can command those prices have a proven track record of delivering at the box office.
Is it a fair distribution based on effort and talent? Not really. But without those names attached, most of those movies would not get made. Would multinational corporations dry up and blow away if the CEO candidate took another job?
Heck, some of them even forego any up-front pay and accept a percentage of what the film brings in. If the film is a flop, they got nothing. And it happens all the time.
June 15th, 2007 at 1:49 pmWho cares why Lott or other Republican’s are down on Rush, I say pile on and pile on heavy! Though it’s been awhile since I’ve contacted my local Rush station to complain, I think I’ll do it now pretending I’m a po-ed conservative and let the advertisers know as well. Any pressure is good pressure.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:08 pm# 94: Oh I have learned something. Look at some salaried figures of some top liberal movie stars. They FAR exceed most paid CEO’s. Heck, you’ve got some CEOs taking $1 on their yearly salaries. How many movie stars accept that?
Time for an economics lesson: People actually pay to see those movie stars that make all that money as a result. It is a true, consumer driven market choice. But the CEOs have their salaries picked by a board, that is only under indirect control of shareholders and even less by customers. It isn’t even a free market choice of that board, since they are not spending their own money (to make a genuine zero-sum allocation of personal resources.) Furthermore, they are subject to kickbacks from the CEO, and together they “are each other’s poodles” as even George Will (!) admitted.
tyrannogenius
June 15th, 2007 at 3:44 pmAbso-FREAKING-hilarious. They opened Pandora’s box and good luck shutting the lid.
Somehow, I have the feeling they’ll try to blame it all on Air America.
June 15th, 2007 at 4:52 pmComment by Neil B
Time for an apolitical economics lesson: CEO’s run companies that provide products and services, just like movie companies. The people who pay to see those movies don’t choose the salaries of the movie stars, either. The movie industry isn’t exactly exempt from being a business, and these stars usually have their own greedy contracts. Consumers get to choose nothing, no different with movie companies. Heck, at least the Corporate entities have a board to vote on compensation and benefits. Movie stars just have to come to terms with a few regarding what share they’ll get before they even act. More CEO’s are giving up their employment contracts (see: Bank of America, Wachovia, etc.) to have their pay and benefits determined through performance only.
June 15th, 2007 at 5:13 pmComptroller: “The complaint with Clinton is that he gets all of that money for such little output. A speech has nothing to do with “market value.â€
From the Chicago Sun: “But in his 2002 divorce filing, Giuliani estimated his annual income from public speaking at $8 million.”
That’s quite a sum for a guy who took a stroll down to the hole for a photo op after causing the death of 300 firemen.
June 15th, 2007 at 5:16 pmTime for a history lesson: Up until the 1880’s, it was a criminal offense in most states for any corporation to give money to any political campaign. Until just after the Civil War, all American corporations had to be completely desolved after 40 years. The Boston Tea Party was not really about “taxation without representation” as we learned in high school. What it was really about was a targeted corporation-specific tax break given the the East India Company by King George. Almost every man who signed the Declaration of Independence and the Consitution had an extreme distrust of corporations. Most of the Founders felt that a corporation was a sly way to set up another landed aristocracy, which the Founders wanted to avoid. In fact, Adam Smith, the Father of capitalism, was openly hostile to the idea of corporations and felt they should be heavily regulated by governments.
Thomas Jefferson said this in the late 1790’s: “I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
June 15th, 2007 at 5:22 pmDon’t ya just love it when the Republicans devour their own? Pass the popcorn.
June 15th, 2007 at 5:25 pmAttention: Listen up! I wasn’t trying to put an end to the discussion with my history lesson. I was simply trying to demonstrate that the infatuation today’s conservatives have with corporations and corporate power is not necessarily an American value and that there is absolutely nothing which should stop “we the people” from regulating and curtailing corporations’ political power in our system today.
June 15th, 2007 at 6:06 pmret col j.r.
i found your history note very interesting.
i didn’t know that a concern for corporate behavior went back so far in our history.
thanks.
June 15th, 2007 at 6:36 pmorionATL, thank you.
Adam Smith had a number of reasons for distrusting corporations, which were usually called “Chartered Accounts” in his day. One of his main problems was that a corporation would set up an independent entity, the corporate Board, which would have neither the enlightened self-interest of the owners or the stockholders. Smith reckoned that a corporate board would work in its own interest. In this way, Adam Smith predicted corporate crime as we see today in places like the Enron and Worldcom scandals.
June 15th, 2007 at 6:55 pmI find it curious that Republicans are so incensed about this–from the standpoint of cheap labor anyway.
June 15th, 2007 at 7:08 pmFrankly, if right-wing talk radio “killed” this bill, then kudos to them.
I am a lifelong Democrat and I think this whole amnesty thing stinks to high heaven and am sick to death of the employers who KNOWINGLY hire these folks–and let me tell you that as a payroll and human resources professional I have seen this practice in almost every single company I’ve worked for. It’s not isolated as some would have you think and IF the government got off its ass and enforced the laws already in place, we could certainly use some of the cash recovered in employer fines to knock back our debt.
NO AMNESTY. Democrats don’t NEED the immigrant vote–the tide has turned.
I find it interesting that this issue, at its core, is about American corporations buying an illegal product. In this case, it’s illegal labor, a service. The government’s response is to go after the product. But, when a citizen, as opposed to a corporation, buys an illegal product, i.e. an illegal drug, the government’s response is to go after the citizen.
To me, this is simply another example of the pervasiveness of corporate influence ruining the way our government works. Today, corporations have more rights and freedoms than individual citizens. This is definitely NOT what the Founders had in mind and we need to do something about it.
Public financing of all federal elections would be a good place to start.
June 15th, 2007 at 7:37 pmThomas Jefferson said this in the late 1790’s: “I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.â€
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — June 15, 2007 @ 5:22 pm
This whole post is extemely informative, too bad the idiot who needed to see it is gone. Isn’t that always the way.
June 15th, 2007 at 7:37 pmComment by loretta — June 15, 2007 @ 7:08 pm
Absolutely loretta, in the good old days INS would raid employers who hired undocumented workers. Plenty of laws on the books to do so. But Bush wants only the biggest profits for corporations and is willing to destroy working class America to achieve that end.
June 15th, 2007 at 7:40 pmThe group of Republians trying to create an immigration bill have no pulse on the country. We don’t need another bill, we need to enforce the current laws.
Read the mission statement of the DHS, “We will lead the unified national effort to secure America. We will prevent and deter terrorist attacks and protect against and respond to threats and hazards to the nation. We will ensure safe and secure borders, welcome lawful immigrants and visitors, and promote the free-flow of commerce.” Fund them and allow them to do their job.
Lott and all his Republican croonies will pay a huge price for their poor decisions on immigration, as will McCain, Graham, Kyl, etc.
Can you say “Push #2 for English?”
June 15th, 2007 at 7:41 pmGee, Trent….
Half of what makes you so funny is that you don’t see the rank hypocrisy that’s oozing out of every pore on your body.
The other half? Well, I’d just like to say…”Love your hair!”
June 15th, 2007 at 8:13 pmI’m in California and can smell the tea brewing in Boston Harbor. I can smell a lot of other things as well. But just because Savage and Limbaugh are right about somethings does not mean we can justify or support them on their homophobic and interlorent platform as a whole.
Their message about immigration and freedom of speech is right on. Let not the reasonable thinker fear guilt by asociation.
In my opinion, all good liberals should be thinking, “What the hell is going on!?”
Sleeping giants.
xx
June 15th, 2007 at 11:04 pmNot surprising.
June 16th, 2007 at 10:35 amHis buddies McCain and Feingold limited free speech, why not take it a step further, is his rationalization.
Are you bloggers wondering how long it will be before these imperialist elitists start making you “disappear” in the middle of the night, and ALL the American people are muzzled?
I am.
Trent Lott finally said something most of have known for years. He left out one word though, “conservative” talk radio is running America. I think it is a great though. It actually shows how gullible and naive many Americans are. They have to be a Limbaugh Lemming or part of Hannity Insanity cause they just don’t have time in their busy lives to think for themselves.
June 16th, 2007 at 11:55 amCrump’s Brother stated:
Oh Trent, is it all Rush’s fault? It wasn’t his fault when he helped you guys elected, or when he calls Obama, “The MAgic Negro.†But now that you can’t get what you want out of him, NOW you’re aggravated?
You might want to research a bit before making comments. The statement about Obama was actually stated by a Los Angeles Times article, it is an absurd statement but you might want to give credit to where it originated.
The following is a link to the article:
http://www.latimes.com/ news/ opinion/ la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,5335087.story?coll=la-opinion-center
June 16th, 2007 at 2:04 pmSo only far right wing America (that also listens to talk radio) is against this bill? Try checking the latest Rasmussen poll. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/ public_content/ politics/ just_16_believe_senate_bill_will_reduce_illegal_immigration
Lott is an idiot, who also happens to be wrong. There is a large cross section of America who have issues with this bill to varying degrees from many political stripes.
What’s laughable in this thread is the assumption that the guy is right in his basic premise. It’s not talk radio that is driving this, it’s the abilty to read the news, common sense and our experience with the federal government.
The sheeple are getting really irritated with Congress. Oh the horror that legislators aren’t merely able to rubber stamp their ideas. The American people are reminding them who they work for. Sheesh, it must suck to be them.
But hey, if it makes it easier to deal with, blame the talking heads. Being correct in one’s assumptions was never a prereq for having an opinion.
June 16th, 2007 at 6:43 pmRush grabs the low-hanging fruit. He is astute enough to know that his ratings depend on morons, not on politicians. That morons tend to vote Republican is but a happy coincidence for Rush. He well knows where his bread is buttered. So, to the extent that those two trajectories (the morons whipped into a frenzy over one thing or another, and the goals of the GOP) describe roughly the same arc, Rush enjoys incredible influence. But when they diverge, Rush will always abandon the party, because he makes his money affirming the reflexive and uninformed opinions of simpletons who don’t have the wit to intuit the inherent worthlessness of anecdotes and lone datapoints. Rush is gonna stick with the morons every time.
As for Lott, he managed with a straight face during the Gonzales auto da fe to to make an absurd appeal to the body’s sense of collegial priorities, as if ‘blow job” no longer suggested anything more than his coif. What a solitary, and if I may say, recherche, glob of shit is this man.
Friends, until we manage to get suburbia to tie themselves to the mast, they will always want to “get the funk down” with Circe. Men into pigs, indeed.
I go to work on a horse. You ought to try it some time.
June 16th, 2007 at 6:50 pmLott and and others of his kind of thinking need to apologize to us the American people and then they need to be voted out of office. What is it with them that they do not seem to understand we have a right to free speech and talk radio is one forum for that expression freedom.
June 17th, 2007 at 12:57 amTrent Lott, you’re enough to make a preacher cuss!
June 17th, 2007 at 1:16 pmTrent Lott is now unfit to lead his office….. He is a trader to free speech and does not support the law of the land.
He is a trader and he hates america by lashing out at talk radio which growing by leaps and bounds. They know they control TV but their are many sources of great information found on talk radio which opposes his crap every day.
TERM LIMITS WOULD SOLVE PART OF THIS PROBLEM.
SECOND: HE NEEDS TO REMEMBER HE IS A SERVENT OF THE PEOPLE. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
LET”S CALL HIS OFFICE AND RAISE HELL MONDAY MORNING. I WILL AND SO SHOULD YOU!
June 17th, 2007 at 7:05 pmIf Lott really does succeed in rallying congress to destroy free speech, I think we will get to see the destructive results of chaotic liberal ideas much sooner. Why? Because there would be no institution left in this country to break the mindless chokehold of academia, the media and congress. The floodgates would be open.
I must confess, I secretly sometimes hope the liberals will someday get their wishes just to prove to them that thousands of years of history can’t be ignored, no matter how good it feels. It would be better though, if they would do their social and economic experimentation in another test tube, not the U.S.
June 17th, 2007 at 10:32 pmThis post is to decry the outrageous comments spoken by Senator Trent Lott about ‘talk radio’ on June 14, 2007.
From the NY Times:
“Comments by Republican senators on Thursday suggested that they were feeling the heat from conservative critics of the bill, who object to provisions offering legal status. The Republican whip, Trent Lott of Mississippi, who supports the bill, said: “Talk radio is running America. We have to deal with that problem.  At some point, Mr. Lott said, Senate Republican leaders may try to rein in “younger guys who are huffing and puffing against the bill.â€
This is prima facie of Senator Lott’s pragmatic opposition to the first amendment to the constitution that he is SWORN to uphold: ‘Congress shall make no law… abridging the freedom of speech’.
His foolishness in this matter reveals an unfittness for his office. Maybe not in managerial ability but in an obtuse absence of restraint that only a proponent of big government, from the left or the right, would have.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:46 amYour statement contradicting Senator Trent Lott’s comment that “Talk Radio is running America” is wrong and supported by facts. Talk Radio or actually “Hate” Radio has been hammering their listeners for months nonstop on the issue of illegal aliens and other hot topics. With a formula of false and fabricated statements like “Illegal aliens pay no taxes” or Linbaughs ignorant “global warming is a hoax” and their ability to radicalize those listeners to the point of frenzy they have created a small but vociferous minority that deluges our lawmakers with phone calls, emails and petitions. Hate Radio is indeed a cancer on our society and one that is dividing Americans and inciting their listeners to hate “liberals” but the result instead is Americans hating Americans. Hate Radio is not about discourse, dialogue or the exchange of ideas that nurture a democracy. Messengers of Hate like Rush Limbaugh instead spew a daily toxic mix of verbal attacks upon a segment of American society. Because of Hate Radio’s continued feed of misinformation, propaganda, and blatant on-the-air lies on just about every subject they talk about we are becoming the Divided States of America. Finally Hate Radio has awaken the beast, and with Congress on our side we the people will move quickly to go after the licenses of all radio stations spewing their messages of hate. There’s no difference between Hate Radio, Rush Limbaugh and his like and the Muslims priests that incite believers to strap a suicide belt and kill.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:58 pm