Comments on: Abu Ghraib Investigator Details Pentagon Cover-Up: ‘I Thought I Was In The Mafia’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:38:29 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: asnet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3875637 asnet Fri, 22 Jun 2007 03:13:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3875637 I yield to no one in my concern about human rights. And I oppose indiscriminate torture. But if you disagree, I recommend that you Google "Execution video" and watch a few beheadings. I yield to no one in my concern about human rights. And I oppose indiscriminate torture. But if you disagree, I recommend that you Google “Execution video” and watch a few beheadings.

]]> By: Sharon Dupree http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3865269 Sharon Dupree Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:19:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3865269 I think the person who goes by the name "Nancy Pelosi" has a hard time following the subject-matter at hand. Her responses represent a typical set of responses by administration defenders who have no evidence with which to argue the truth. They engage in childish name-calling, derogatory talking points rhetoric and apparently went to one of those dumbing-down schools that extremists send their children to so they can teach them revisionist history and bigoted religious cult theory. Since she chose to go by the name of a Democratic Representative, she must secretly want to change allegiances but is afraid to do so for fear of being kicked out of the club of fanatics and extremists. No one in their right mind would demean themselves by taking the name of one they despised, as a matter of principle. We should help her fing her way to the light and away from supporting animalistic and torturous behavior. Admission is the first step to recovery, as Mr. Limbaugh is finding out. I think the person who goes by the name “Nancy Pelosi” has a hard time following the subject-matter at hand. Her responses represent a typical set of responses by administration defenders who have no evidence with which to argue the truth. They engage in childish name-calling, derogatory talking points rhetoric and apparently went to one of those dumbing-down schools that extremists send their children to so they can teach them revisionist history and bigoted religious cult theory.
Since she chose to go by the name of a Democratic Representative, she must secretly want to change allegiances but is afraid to do so for fear of being kicked out of the club of fanatics and extremists. No one in their right mind would demean themselves by taking the name of one they despised, as a matter of principle.
We should help her fing her way to the light and away from supporting animalistic and torturous behavior. Admission is the first step to recovery, as Mr. Limbaugh is finding out.

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3864439 Tobey Tall Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:10:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3864439 223 dianne - - well said your quite right , no women no children get hurt by the mafia that is an insult to the Maifia 223 dianne – -

well said your quite right , no women no children get hurt by the mafia that is an insult to the Maifia

]]> By: dianne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3864222 dianne Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:02:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3864222 What Taguba said actually insulted the Mafia. I don't think they ever tortured children. What Taguba said actually insulted the Mafia. I don’t think they ever tortured children.

]]> By: President Bush 43 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3864026 President Bush 43 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:36:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3864026 BARTLEBEE is right, Ms. Venus: I could use some new criminal defense lawyers and lawyerettes. I'll even try not to give you the short shrift like Scooter, but I can't promise that. Besides, I'm not so good at keeping promises, you know. After all, I sort of gave of looking for that Bin Laden guy. Hope to hear from you soon. Toodles for now. BARTLEBEE is right, Ms. Venus: I could use some new criminal defense lawyers and lawyerettes. I’ll even try not to give you the short shrift like Scooter, but I can’t promise that. Besides, I’m not so good at keeping promises, you know. After all, I sort of gave of looking for that Bin Laden guy. Hope to hear from you soon.
Toodles for now.

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3864018 BARTLEBEE Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:33:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3864018 And if you need references Frau Venus, just have them give us a call. We'll be happy to vouch for your ability to defend criminals. :| After all, you've done a fantastic job of it in here. And if you need references Frau Venus, just have them give us a call.

We’ll be happy to vouch for your ability to defend criminals.

:|

After all, you’ve done a fantastic job of it in here.

]]> By: Briseadh na Faire http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3864015 Briseadh na Faire Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:32:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3864015 <em> Save your sanctimonious act for those who might fall for it - I don’t. Comment by valiant venus — June 18, 2007 @ 2:51 am </em> Yet you fell for the "official story" about 9/11. Save your sanctimonious act for those who might fall for it – I don’t.

Comment by valiant venus — June 18, 2007 @ 2:51 am

Yet you fell for the “official story” about 9/11.

]]> By: Briseadh na Faire http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3864009 Briseadh na Faire Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:29:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3864009 <blockquote> <em> How many VietNamese were killed (or sent to “re-education” camps) after we “left” Viet Nam? Save your sanctimonious act for those who might fall for it - I don’t. Comment by valiant venus — June 18, 2007 @ 2:51 am </em></blockquote> Hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese officials, particularly ARVN officers, were imprisoned in reeducation camps after the Communist takeover. Tens of thousands died...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#Aftermath Now, as to my question: Did the US surrender in Vietnam? Are you now saying we are in Iraq to prevent the Iraqis from killing each other? If so, how do you reconcile that with the fact that nearly 3/4ths of a million Iraqis have died since our invasion?

How many VietNamese were killed (or sent to “re-education” camps) after we “left” Viet Nam? Save your sanctimonious act for those who might fall for it – I don’t.

Comment by valiant venus — June 18, 2007 @ 2:51 am

Hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese officials, particularly ARVN officers, were imprisoned in reeducation camps after the Communist takeover. Tens of thousands died…http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#Aftermath

Now, as to my question: Did the US surrender in Vietnam?

Are you now saying we are in Iraq to prevent the Iraqis from killing each other?

If so, how do you reconcile that with the fact that nearly 3/4ths of a million Iraqis have died since our invasion?

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3863999 BARTLEBEE Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:26:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3863999 <em> I “defend” criminals </em> Comment by valiant venus — June 18, 2007 @ 1:24 am Criminals ay? Well then you should give the White House a call. I hear they're looking for someone with that specific skillset. I “defend” criminals

Comment by valiant venus — June 18, 2007 @ 1:24 am

Criminals ay?

Well then you should give the White House a call.

I hear they’re looking for someone with that specific skillset.

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3863992 Lora Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:24:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3863992 Ps. VV/Mighty Hypocrite Is your reading comprehension really that bad, or do you always try to change the subject to spin it your way--not successfully, I might add? Ps. VV/Mighty Hypocrite
Is your reading comprehension really that bad, or do you always try to change the subject to spin it your way–not successfully, I might add?

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3863991 Lora Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:22:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3863991 VileVermin, Don't ASSume too much yourself, dearie. I wasn't here to point out the number of Vietnamese who were killed or sent to re-education camps--a number, BTW, you--your non-precious self--haven't given, either. I was only noting your repeatedly expressed disdain for people of nationalities other than American, Israeli, and some Brits. Do I believe you really care what happens to the remaining Iraqis (or as you call them, Koraninals) after US troops leave? Definitely NO. Sorry to rile you so early in the morning. Noodle-toodle-loo VileVermin,
Don’t ASSume too much yourself, dearie. I wasn’t here to point out the number of Vietnamese who were killed or sent to re-education camps–a number, BTW, you–your non-precious self–haven’t given, either. I was only noting your repeatedly expressed disdain for people of nationalities other than American, Israeli, and some Brits. Do I believe you really care what happens to the remaining Iraqis (or as you call them, Koraninals) after US troops leave? Definitely NO. Sorry to rile you so early in the morning.
Noodle-toodle-loo

]]> By: valiant venus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3863963 valiant venus Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3863963 <strong>Thanks Lora! </strong> You <em>personify</em> the word "aSSume". YOU have no clue how many VietNamese were killed or "re-educated" after we withdrew from VietNam. Ask Braid Faire. <strong>Wait</strong>- that person is clueless also. Thanks Lora! You personify the word “aSSume”. YOU have no clue how many VietNamese were killed or “re-educated” after we withdrew from VietNam. Ask Braid Faire. Wait- that person is clueless also.

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3863899 Lora Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:43:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3863899 Braid Faire - How many VietNamese were killed (or sent to “re-education” camps) after we “left” Viet Nam? Save your sanctimonious act for those who might fall for it - I don’t. Comment by vilevermin Given your often expessed (here) disdain for people other than Americans, Israelis, and some Brits, it's hard to believe you really cared if Vietnamese got killed or were sent to re-education camps--let alone what happens to what you call Koranimals (ie. Iraqi's--sic-your usual spelling). You have even stated on a previous thread that it would be good to have the Iraqis or Iraqis and Iranians kill each; so to borrow your words, "Save your sanctimonious act for those who might fall for it ." No one here but your fellow trolls do. Toodle-noodle. Braid Faire – How many VietNamese were killed (or sent to “re-education” camps) after we “left” Viet Nam? Save your sanctimonious act for those who might fall for it – I don’t.
Comment by vilevermin

Given your often expessed (here) disdain for people other than Americans, Israelis, and some Brits, it’s hard to believe you really cared if Vietnamese got killed or were sent to re-education camps–let alone what happens to what you call Koranimals (ie. Iraqi’s–sic-your usual spelling). You have even stated on a previous thread that it would be good to have the Iraqis or Iraqis and Iranians kill each; so to borrow your words, “Save your sanctimonious act for those who might fall for it .” No one here but your fellow trolls do.
Toodle-noodle.

]]> By: , of, and for the people. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3863884 , of, and for the people. Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:20:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3863884 <strong>Gen. Taguba, Sir: you are my hero!</strong> My grandfather was career Army. He was stationed in the Philippines before World War II, and trained Filipino troops as the Japanese expansion neared. He survived the Bataan Death March, then was a POW for 4 years. He would be SO proud of you, Sir, for standing up for what is right. For following your training and values and upholding what is good in the US Army. For obeying what every self-respecting, god-fearing, America-loving Army officer and enlisted man knows is his and her duty. Thank you, Gen. Taguba. You will go down in history books as one of the few real military heros in this dark chapter of American history. Gen. Taguba, Sir: you are my hero!

My grandfather was career Army. He was stationed in the Philippines before World War II, and trained Filipino troops as the Japanese expansion neared. He survived the Bataan Death March, then was a POW for 4 years.

He would be SO proud of you, Sir, for standing up for what is right. For following your training and values and upholding what is good in the US Army. For obeying what every self-respecting, god-fearing, America-loving Army officer and enlisted man knows is his and her duty.

Thank you, Gen. Taguba. You will go down in history books as one of the few real military heros in this dark chapter of American history.

]]> By: publius http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3863881 publius Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:08:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3863881 <strong><a href="http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=opedne_david_sw_070615_impeachment_faq.htm" rel="nofollow">I-M-P-E-A-C-H !</a> </strong> (Cheney first.) I-M-P-E-A-C-H !

(Cheney first.)

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3863878 Tobey Tall Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:18:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3863878 Al-'Arabiya reported that the relatives of 'Abeer al-Janabi, who was raped by US soldiers and killed -- along with three family members -- have refused to accept a financial compensation that was offered to them by the US Army. Al-'Arabiya spoke to the mayor of the village in which the uncles of the 16-year-old victim reside. According to the mayor, the paternal and maternal uncles of al-Janabi have rejected a $100,000 payment that was presented to them by an American officer. The relatives told the US officer that “their main compensation" would be "to witness the execution of the accused soldiers" -- on television, "in the same fashion as Saddam Husain’s execution,” the mayor added. Al-’Arabiya reported that the relatives of ‘Abeer al-Janabi, who was raped by US soldiers and killed — along with three family members — have refused to accept a financial compensation that was offered to them by the US Army. Al-’Arabiya spoke to the mayor of the village in which the uncles of the 16-year-old victim reside. According to the mayor, the paternal and maternal uncles of al-Janabi have rejected a $100,000 payment that was presented to them by an American officer. The relatives told the US officer that “their main compensation” would be “to witness the execution of the accused soldiers” — on television, “in the same fashion as Saddam Husain’s execution,” the mayor added.

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3863877 Tobey Tall Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:10:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3863877 <b>Taguba said that he saw “a video of a male American soldier in uniform sodomizing a female detainee.”</b> The video was not made public in any of the subsequent court proceedings, nor has there been any public government mention of it. Such images would have added an even more inflammatory element to the outcry over Abu Ghraib. “It’s bad enough that there were photographs of Arab men wearing women’s panties,” Taguba said. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/061707A.shtml Taguba said that he saw “a video of a male American soldier in uniform sodomizing a female detainee.” The video was not made public in any of the subsequent court proceedings, nor has there been any public government mention of it. Such images would have added an even more inflammatory element to the outcry over Abu Ghraib. “It’s bad enough that there were photographs of Arab men wearing women’s panties,” Taguba said.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/061707A.shtml

]]> By: Merlin http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3863866 Merlin Mon, 18 Jun 2007 06:51:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3863866 #206 Comment by Briseadh na Faire — June 18, 2007 @ 2:19 am <em>And I want to keep asking the question, “Did the US surrender in Vietnam?” each time someone accuses others of wanting to surrender in Iraq. The fact is, we left Vietnam. After awhile, they got tired of killing each other and now we have Vietnamese restaurants. All the predictions of doom and gloom were wrong.</em> Spot on BFN! <strong>This should be worked into a "frame" or short phrase</strong> that will nulify the neocon spin, and bring home that reality to the masses. #206 Comment by Briseadh na Faire — June 18, 2007 @ 2:19 am

And I want to keep asking the question, “Did the US surrender in Vietnam?” each time someone accuses others of wanting to surrender in Iraq.

The fact is, we left Vietnam. After awhile, they got tired of killing each other and now we have Vietnamese restaurants. All the predictions of doom and gloom were wrong.

Spot on BFN! This should be worked into a “frame” or short phrase that will nulify the neocon spin, and bring home that reality to the masses.

]]> By: valiant venus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3863865 valiant venus Mon, 18 Jun 2007 06:51:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3863865 Braid Faire - How many VietNamese were killed (or sent to "re-education" camps) after we "left" Viet Nam? Save your sanctimonious act for those who might fall for it - I don't. Braid Faire – How many VietNamese were killed (or sent to “re-education” camps) after we “left” Viet Nam? Save your sanctimonious act for those who might fall for it – I don’t.

]]> By: Briseadh na Faire http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/comment-page-5/#comment-3863853 Briseadh na Faire Mon, 18 Jun 2007 06:19:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/17/hersh-taguba/#comment-3863853 Thanks, Shane. And I want to keep asking the question, "Did the US surrender in Vietnam?" each time someone accuses others of wanting to surrender in Iraq. The fact is, we left Vietnam. After awhile, they got tired of killing each other and now we have Vietnamese restaurants. All the predictions of doom and gloom were wrong. But not enough of our kids have died in Iraq ... yet. Thanks, Shane.

And I want to keep asking the question, “Did the US surrender in Vietnam?” each time someone accuses others of wanting to surrender in Iraq.

The fact is, we left Vietnam. After awhile, they got tired of killing each other and now we have Vietnamese restaurants. All the predictions of doom and gloom were wrong.

But not enough of our kids have died in Iraq … yet.

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