NYC firefighters slam Giuliani.
NYC firefighters slam Giuliani.
The New York Times has published a review of interviews with more than 50 NYC firefighters and department officers who server under former mayor Rudy Giuliani. “Many firefighters praise his years in office, citing his success in reducing crime and his leadership after the terrorist attacks. Others harbor a resentment for what they describe as his poor treatment of the department before and after Sept. 11.”
Some still speak bitterly about a contract that left firefighters without a raise for two years. Some also say Mr. Giuliani has exaggerated the role he played after the terrorist attacks, casting himself as a hero for political gain. The harshest sentiments stem from Mr. Giuliani’s decision nearly two months after 9/11 to reduce the number of firefighters who were allowed to search for colleagues in the rubble — a move that he partially reversed but that still infuriates many firefighters. [...]
The International Association of Fire Fighters, an umbrella union based in Washington, spoke out against Mr. Giuliani in March. The group is also preparing a short DVD outlining its grievances that it plans to send to fire departments across the country. [...]
Officials with another union, the Uniformed Fire Officers Association, said they planned to work against Mr. Giuliani’s campaign. “I don’t think the person in Nebraska has any idea yet how we feel,” said John J. McDonnell, a battalion chief and president of the association. “He probably assumes that we think he’s great.”
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Thank’s to the fire fighter’s for coming forward to proove to the country he is nothing more than a bush clone, one day one trick poney phoney…..Blessings
June 17th, 2007 at 3:38 pmMany firefighters praise his years in office, citing his success in reducing crime and his leadership after the terrorist attacks.
So many like him? Good to hear
June 17th, 2007 at 3:39 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FDNY
Strength 11,400
And they interviewed 50 out of which “Many” said praise and “Some” said bad things.
June 17th, 2007 at 3:45 pmThe level of fraud, perfidy, and criminality perpetrated by the Rethuglicans (the entire party, top to bottom), makes it hard for any reasonably responsible person or organization to support them. I’m not surprised that the first responders aren’t supporting Rudy – as they have been up-close-and-personal victims of his political buggery.
June 17th, 2007 at 3:48 pmSo many like him? Good to hear
Comment by Tundra
So, you are a Trudie fan, huh?
June 17th, 2007 at 4:19 pmYou like your candidates in dresses?
heh
Another truth the public needs to know – will this make the fascist state news media?
June 17th, 2007 at 4:23 pmCan you imagine Giuliani as president? Very scary.
You like your candidates in dresses?
heh
Comment by Wayne — June 17, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
I like my candidates being true to who they are and if that means they like dresses, then so be it. Unlike your garden variety troll, I’m not homophobic :)
That being said I am more of a Ron Paul fan. Leave alot to local governments and let the people effected make most of the choices.
June 17th, 2007 at 4:26 pmI lived in NYC before, during, and after 9/11 – and at all times I LOATHED Rudy.
But TP… why are you only giving the negitive snipets? I mean, I’m glad you left in at least SOMETHING positive with the ““Many firefighters praise his years in office, citing his success…” quote, and as always you link to the full story.
But something seems, I dunno.. dishonest about not putting in a blockquote, ANYTHING positive that was said about him.
Of course, I don’t agree with the positive statements, but still I want to be able to say that TP is fair.
TUNDRA – Your party hates gay people, and are offended by cross dressing (minus the candidate we’re talking about now). So why, if you’re not homophonic, siding with them?
And let’s not forget how many of these “heros” fought for camera time instead of actually helping out.
Let’s also NOT forget that Rudy shipped off the remains from 9/11 to be destroyed. Yes – Rudy DISRUPTED A CRIME SCENE, a crime on a scale which has never been seen before in the US
June 17th, 2007 at 4:33 pmTUNDRA – Your party hates gay people, and are offended by cross dressing
Since when did the Libertarian Party ever have a negative stance on Gay rights of any sort?
June 17th, 2007 at 4:35 pmUnlike your garden variety troll, I’m not homophobic :)
New York used to be called New Amsterdam. I suppose it’s only fitting that New Yorkers like to tip toe thru the tulips with their wooden clodhoppers and flower filled skirts.
*joking of course*
June 17th, 2007 at 4:36 pmhttp://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewrw/archives/010707.html
Basically sums it up for me
June 17th, 2007 at 4:38 pmComment by Claude Hauper — June 17, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
hehe
June 17th, 2007 at 4:39 pmanother liberal attack blah blah
June 17th, 2007 at 4:48 pmThat being said I am more of a Ron Paul fan. Leave alot to local governments and let the people effected make most of the choices.
Comment by Tundra
Ron Paul is definately more of a real conservative that the republican jokers in office.
It’s his racism I cannot stomach.
And dress wearing jokes aside, Rudy’s Kerik/mob connections make me real leary of him. We have had enough of the criminal things going on with Bushco in the WH.
June 17th, 2007 at 4:52 pmUnlike your garden variety troll, I’m not homophobic :)
Comment by Tundra — June 17, 2007 @ 4:26 pm
Personally I view some of them as more homoerotic than homophobic, at least when writing worship words for their CinC.
June 17th, 2007 at 5:04 pmI’m not sure what to make of these firefighters’ complaints, but I am sure that Giuliani has received far too much praise for 9/11. Perhaps what made him look so good then was the fact that Bush was fleeing, hiding, and cowering like a pussy while Rudy was more or less holding his ground.
June 17th, 2007 at 5:06 pmanother liberal attack blah blah
Comment by Chris
How is that? The Firemen are heros of 9/11 speaking their mind, how does freedom of speech make it a ‘liberal attack’ unless your against free speech?
Folks this is your brain on punditry.
(switch to video of scrambled eggs frying in pan)
The fact is folks (rattles twinkie cellophane) that we must stop this thing called punditry (swallows oxycontin) and we must deport these habitual dittoheads to cuba with a bottle of viagra!!
June 17th, 2007 at 5:06 pmTypical dittoheads backing a politician before they back those brave Police and Firemen working to save lives.
How do they get to be so confused? I have a theory. Butt Grommett Confucious-ism.
Man who go to be listening to ass speak wake up with stinky mind. =)
June 17th, 2007 at 5:13 pmAnd dress wearing jokes aside, Rudy’s Kerik/mob connections make me real leary of him. We have had enough of the criminal things going on with Bushco in the WH.
Comment by Wayne — June 17, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
I concur
My original poorly worded post about glad to hear Many firefighters are pleased with him, was supposed to mean that they are the ones he should have been worried about (As opposed to the rest of the country) and if a good number are pleased, that’s good.
Leaving that part out of course was used to see who reads and comprehends vs assume I am a Bush Loving etc and call me anti gay and “your party” type stuff. (Not you of course as we have been around awhile)
June 17th, 2007 at 5:30 pmTundra –
Ah – you’re a Libertarian? With your talk of siding with Ron Paul, you sure fooled me! What Libertarian roots for Ron Paul? Something tells me you are either lying, or just… confused.
June 17th, 2007 at 5:49 pmGuiliani was the “annointed successor” of Bush – handpicked by the GOP, that’s clear. The fact that he was made to appear the “hero” was part/parcel of the Annointed’s “role” which he continues to play to the hilt. When all is said and done, there are more negative reports about precisely what Guiliani did (more like what he failed to do) so he’s definitely NOT a hero by any stretch of the imagination in the minds of New Yorkers (See Bloomberg/Guiliani poll of NY citizens) or the rest of the country.
Having said that, he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of ever residing in the White House. Bernie Kerik’s affiliation with him has tarnished what was “supposed to happen” to das annointed one…..
Factor in his complicity and knowledge that Oxycontin was definitely “addictive” when they claimed that it was not – a Board of Directors he currently sits on – and he’s toast.
…..ttttttthat’s all folks……thufferin’ thuccotash!
June 17th, 2007 at 5:53 pmI love the Left’s fear of Rudy.
June 17th, 2007 at 6:00 pmHe neutral;izes the Dems on Social issues and exposes the Left as the Pro-Muslim losers they are!
Vote for Rudy.
Let’s have a real Fascist in there with Death Squads!
Comment by Joker June 17, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
Score:
1-2-1-1-0-1-0
(a troll gave you the 2)
June 17th, 2007 at 6:05 pmor just… confused.
Comment by Anonymous By Choice — June 17, 2007
Tundra has been thawn and refrozen to many times.
June 17th, 2007 at 6:13 pmWhat Libertarian roots for Ron Paul? Something tells me you are either lying, or just… confused.
Comment by Anonymous By Choice
Ron Paul was the Libertarian Party Presidential Candidate in 1988.
Something tells me you are the one confused.
June 17th, 2007 at 6:16 pmRead a bit before calling someone a liar.
#21 The left certainly isn’t afraid of Mafioso Rudy. They think he’s the quintessential laughingstock.
June 17th, 2007 at 6:24 pmGuiliani’s campaign has been propped up solely by the national view of his ‘heroic’ actions following 9/11. If those crutches are kicked away, he will fall flat on his face, with nothing but a lot of skeletons to keep him company.
The Republicans are really lacking anyone on their side for the 2008 race. If they manage to walk away with a ‘win’, it will not be because they deserve it or have earned it.
June 17th, 2007 at 6:25 pm#23 Heyzeus: Right on my friend! So you’ve got Tundra’s number too, eh? All of us at TP do as well…..AND we know his other troll monikers.
June 17th, 2007 at 6:26 pm#26 The Republicans have absolutely no one with a shred of credibility on their side of the ledger for 08 and they know it. Line them up with their pathetic “dress for success red ties” and they all look the same: lying, sycophantic, reichwing locksteppers…..I believe they should be called the “Stepford GOPhers”.
June 17th, 2007 at 6:27 pmAnd, what’s even more comical, is that there isn’t an “original idea” emanating from the mouths of any of them! I’ve never seen a more pathetic group of men in my entire life.
June 17th, 2007 at 6:28 pmEveryone knows that Guiliani was the “911 puff piece poster boy” – full of hot air and just another corrupt sycophant annointed by the PNAC to be the “heir apparent”….. little did they know that their house of cards would come crashing down and so quickly.
June 17th, 2007 at 6:30 pmThe left certainly isn’t afraid of Mafioso Rudy. They think he’s the quintessential laughingstock.
Comment by veritas — June 17, 2007 @ 6:24 pm
I think the cons confuse our laughter AT Guiliani with the sort of nervous laughter they feel about their own shadows… :D
June 17th, 2007 at 6:30 pmGiuliani is a total warmongering idiot – if he makes the pres then nobody will vote for the daft bat -so thats good
June 17th, 2007 at 6:31 pmAll of us at TP do as well…..AND we know his other troll monikers.
Comment by veritas
oh,really? Which ones are those? Now i’m curious.
Tundra has been posting at TP for a long time ( as have I ) and actually has the brains for a good debate, unlike 99% of the trolls.
June 17th, 2007 at 6:36 pmThe Republicans have absolutely no one with a shred of credibility on their side of the ledger for 08 and they know it.
It’s actually pitiful… 2008 id lining up to be a landslide, even with all the cheating and voter caging they are doing.
Line them up with their pathetic “dress for success red ties†and they all look the same: lying, sycophantic, reichwing locksteppers…..
The public says overwhelmingly – we want OUT of Iraq and everyone of these “candidates” says “Staying in Iraq is the right thing to do”. How insane is that?
I believe they should be called the “Stepford GOPhersâ€.
Comment by veritas — June 17, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
Funny :D
June 17th, 2007 at 6:38 pmThe public says overwhelmingly – we want OUT of Iraq and everyone of these “candidates†says “Staying in Iraq is the right thing to doâ€. How insane is that?
Comment by unbelievable
As insane as their advocating torture is…….
June 17th, 2007 at 6:43 pmHe neutral;izes the Dems on Social issues and exposes the Left as the Pro-Muslim losers they are!
Operation Iraqi Freedom, a neo-con lefty cum righty idea, was supposed to free those Muslims from a oppressive secular dictator, remember? Shaha Riza, who probably meant well, also was onboard with freeing the oppressed women in Afghanistan and Iraq. Borks daughter, which is not widely known also sat on the board of AEI and it’s plans of war with Iraq since 1998 or so. This war, freedom operation is not so much about religion as you and the pundits try to make it out to be as some kind of modern day armageddon.
Don’t even get me started on the funding of Reagan ear of “freedom fighters” during the Russian Afghan war which helped to give rise to the extremist problem today. As well the WH plans to arm Iraqi insurgents, another quite questionable tactic. Oil has undeniably played a part in funding this radical extremism.
Joker, I think, seems to be a good moniker for your post as the people here seem to fall into the anti-war category and not the pro-muslim diatribe your dallying on about. This quagmire is/was voted on and for by both the elected Democratic and Republican parties. To say the elected left or the right is pro-muslim or anti-war is disengenous at best.
Lets not forget that this debacle also risks reigniting a cold war with Russia.
Fear of Rudy? Please. I feel that he is simply not up to the task to the enormity of the problems at hand. We need a person skilled in dialogue and a uniter not another ‘fear based’ sky is falling divider beholden to the apocalyptic crowd.
June 17th, 2007 at 6:43 pmAs insane as their advocating torture is…….
Comment by Wayne — June 17, 2007 @ 6:43 pm
And as insane as their opposition to legal abortion, living wages, gun control, national health care and the host of other social services the majority of American people want…
Ever since Howard Dean got the Democrats talking about their values, it’s made a huge difference. Grant the Democrats are still owned by Corprate America, but they rule better, even when owned than the Republicans do. They seem to keep some sense of their humanity that the Repugs willingly abandon.
I still miantain that Al Gore as an Independent with a Democratic majority in Congress is the best option I see for tehcountry. Problem is, Al says that he’s not motivated enough to get back on that poltical horse again…
June 17th, 2007 at 6:49 pmIsn’t it funny to watch the Repug “debates” and see ALL of them (Except Ron Paul) gush and ejaculate Ronny Raygunz into evey discussion.
Pretty pathetic when a dead B movie actor with Alzheimer’s has more credibility today then the rest of the “old white men” blabbering away on stage.
June 17th, 2007 at 6:53 pmProblem is, Al says that he’s not motivated enough to get back on that poltical horse again…
Comment by unbelievable
Yeah, he is the only one I would support at this time, untill it comes down to Dem vs Repuke at the last.
It’s going to be hard for me to be excited about supporting Hillary if she is nominated, though =P
June 17th, 2007 at 6:57 pmAnd that is because of her Senate voting record/bills sponsored.
Maybe the presidency is Cheney’s payback to Ghouliani for services rendered.
June 17th, 2007 at 7:06 pmRudy’s doing well right now in the polls, but that’s meaningless for several reasons. First of all, we’re nowhere near the conventions and there could be others (Fred thompson, at least) who might enter the race. And secondly, if he maintains his lead then he will be the natural target for attacks, and there is so much about him that people outsiode New York don’t know yet. And we’ll make sure they hear it.
Also, for the Republican Party, which swept the Newt into power on a family values platform, to nominate Rudy would be just another example of the rank hypocrisy they emit. He has often been a target of criticism from the right because of his socially left-leaning views. About the only thing about him that appeals to them is his authoritarianism and the myth about what a hero he was on 9/11.
June 17th, 2007 at 7:08 pmTundra has been posting at TP for a long time ( as have I ) and actually has the brains for a good debate, unlike 99% of the trolls.
Comment by Wayne
I’ll support you here, Wayne, I only took a poke at Tundra out of respect for the frozen little custard……..
June 17th, 2007 at 7:13 pmI’ll support you here, Wayne, I only took a poke at Tundra out of respect for the frozen little custard……..
Comment by heyzeus
LMAO
June 17th, 2007 at 7:15 pmTooliani will scare Al Qaeda by showing up at a cave in Tora Bora dressed in drag.
-GSD
June 17th, 2007 at 7:25 pmThere’s little difference between Guiliani and the firefighers union. They each protect their own. The firefighters union is predominantly Irish and predominantly Republican. Don’t hold your breath that this has any meaning whatsoever, except an inner turf war.
All the hoopla about how firefighters are the heart of freedom is crap when you really look at the rank and file. Any Irish person knows, the most prejudiced people against African Americans in the US are the Irish, and particularly firefighters and policeman, second only to the prejudice of the Italians. If an African American tries to buy a home in an Italian neighborhood on Staten Island, the home is burned to the ground.
June 17th, 2007 at 7:38 pmYup, there goes old “Scoop and Dump” Guiliani.
June 17th, 2007 at 8:34 pmAnd they interviewed 50 out of which “Many†said praise and “Some†said bad things.
Comment by Tundra
I have no doubt Rudi will get the cross-dressers’ vote.
June 17th, 2007 at 8:51 pmWhy does Rudy believe he has a snowball’s chance in hell to gain the Republican nomination? Nevermind his political problems — his personal life is a disaster ripe for the picking!
June 17th, 2007 at 9:03 pmGoofy Tooliani, I sure to hope he gets the nomination.
June 17th, 2007 at 9:15 pmanother liberal attack blah blah
Comment by Chris
Another silly, irrevelant troll bit of blather. Blah, blah, blah.
June 17th, 2007 at 9:20 pmhis personal life is a disaster ripe for the picking!
Comment by Zooey
Yeppers, Bill Maher has been having a field day picking on Rudy:
“New Rule: Candidates don’t need to know the price of milk. This week, a reporter asked Rudy Giuliani what the price of milk is, and he didn’t know. Please, just because Rudy likes to wear a dress doesn’t make him a housewife. He’s been married three times. When he says he’s going out for a carton of milk, he doesn’t come back.”– Bill Maher –4/17/2007
heh
June 17th, 2007 at 9:21 pm#40 – I love it! Maybe the GOP magic ticket would be: Rudy Ghouliani and Ann Countergeist! What a ‘HOUSE OF HORRORS’ that would be….even the thought of those two together in the same room makes my hair stand on end….yeickkkkkk!
June 17th, 2007 at 9:27 pmRudy always reminds me of the Don Henley tune
“New York Minute”
“… Harry got up, dressed all in black,
June 17th, 2007 at 9:30 pmwent down to the station, and he never came back.
They found his clothing, scattered someways down the track,
and he won’t be down on Wall Street anymore…..”
When he says he’s going out for a carton of milk, he doesn’t come back.â€â€“ Bill Maher –4/17/2007
heh
Comment by Wayne
That’s great, Wayne. :D
June 17th, 2007 at 9:32 pm#52 veritas
June 17th, 2007 at 9:33 pmWhat a feast for trannies: a bald man who loves to dress in ball gowns and a supposed woman with an even larger Adam’s apple! But it kind of makes me nauseous.
“Why does Rudy believe he has a snowball’s chance in hell to gain the Republican nomination?”
Three reasons:
1. There’s an amazing amount of hypocrisy among Republican voters. They are far more concerned about Democratic shenanigans than they are about Republican. Rudy is a “good person,” so the fact that his personal life has been a fiasco just doesn’t register. Compare, for example, Rush Limbaugh’s reputation among Republicans against the reality of his self-indulgent and out-of-control personal life.
2. He’s an authoritarian figure. And Republicans, in general, go apeshit over authoritarian figures. If you watched the debates, you saw the various candidates trying to top each other with how “tough” they would be.
3. The press is giving him a free pass, both on his personal background and on his “credentials” on national security. Instead, they’re speaking admiringly of “America’s mayor” and just how “tough” and “authentic” he is.
Republicans, more so than Democrats, are still terrified by what happened on 9/11 and are still looking for “daddy” to keep them safe. It’s what keeps so many of them still in Bush’s corner, despite the manifest failures of his policies.
What’s interesting about the campaigning thus far is what has not happened: everyone who has watched Rudy for years keeps expecting him to have one of his patented meltdowns. He has a (justifiable) reputation for being short-tempered and arrogant. Thus far, though, the long-expected blowup has just not happened.
So, unfortunately, Rudy is probably justified in thinking that he has both a chance at the Republican nomination and a real shot at the presidency.
June 17th, 2007 at 9:39 pmOne reason why Guiliani thinks he has a chance
- The definition of fascisim according to FDR is the government controlled by corporate interests.
Guiliani is a child of govt cross-bred with corporations. He is the very essense of the obscenity.
June 17th, 2007 at 9:48 pmPaulB,
Thanks for that info. Amazing….
June 17th, 2007 at 9:49 pmThe answer to the problem faced by the Republic is – how to destabilize and control the corporate state so that it works for the good of the people at large. Can it be done? Or will we end up like Soviet Russia? Where the corporatized welfare state destroys the economy while its corporate heads reap billions.
June 17th, 2007 at 9:51 pm“Or will we end up like Soviet Russia? Where the corporatized welfare state destroys the economy while its corporate heads reap billions.”
Comment by bloodforoil
Seems like we’re already there, I always thought the Russian oligarchs picked this habit up from the capitalists!
June 17th, 2007 at 10:00 pmComment by PaulB — June 17, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
Excellent post!
Wayne, great quote by Bill Maher!
June 17th, 2007 at 10:01 pm- The definition of fascisim according to FDR is the government controlled by corporate interests.
Comment by bloodforoil — June 17, 2007 @ 9:48 pm
I did not know that… that is, I did not know that FDR was a moron.
June 17th, 2007 at 10:03 pmPIP
So you are admittedly a fascist? Or do you not know the definition of fascism?
Because it was also Mussolinis defiinition –
Namely the corporations controlling the state – to create the “corporate state”
which is what America now suffers under
June 17th, 2007 at 10:06 pmComment by PaulB — June 17, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
You nailed that one on the head, PaulB. And for Rudy’s impending meltdown (Jane and I are from NY), it hasn’t happened yet as far as we know. But it will, it will. And when it does, he won’t be “America’s mayor” any more. That honor will be reclaimed by Mayor McCheese.
June 17th, 2007 at 10:11 pmComment by bloodforoil — June 17, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
No, but I do know the etymology of word, and it has nothing to do with corporate control. It literally describes a small group or association united for political purposes.
June 17th, 2007 at 10:15 pmAhh, what the hell, sure, BFO, I’m a fascist!
June 17th, 2007 at 10:16 pm“…..I’m a fascist!”
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
So, given you are taken from a bundle of fags all the same length, would you be the first stake in the fire?
June 17th, 2007 at 10:25 pmComment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 17, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
Hey, your fascism is showing – wait, I thought that was your Zionism–either way, you’d better zip up again! :D
June 17th, 2007 at 10:30 pmComment by heyzeus — June 17, 2007 @ 10:25 pm
I’m the AXE
June 17th, 2007 at 10:31 pmI’m the AXE
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 17, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
The men’s cologne? Then you must smell better than Fred Thompson.
June 17th, 2007 at 10:34 pmThe men’s cologne? Then you must smell better than Fred Thompson.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider — June 17, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
Yes, I spray the AXE on my Z*onism and Fascism areas… for the ladies. ;)
June 17th, 2007 at 10:37 pmI’m the AXE
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Is that Latin for ASS?
June 17th, 2007 at 10:38 pmComment by Wayne — June 17, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
Thanks Wayne!
I had a pretty little post all written up, but you said it as well in fewer words after I looked.
June 17th, 2007 at 10:40 pmYes, I spray the AXE on my Z*onism and Fascism areas… for the ladies. ;)
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 17, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
LOL! Then you’d REALLY better zip up!
June 17th, 2007 at 10:41 pmIs that Latin for ASS?
Comment by heyzeus — June 17, 2007 @ 10:38 pm
No, but I feel like an ass for making BFO run away…
ahhh who ‘m I kindin’, no I don’t!
June 17th, 2007 at 10:42 pmThe corporate state is beholden to the stockholder and thus the purchasing power of its employees. But even PIPpy must be aware that sooner or later, thru buyouts, even he will become an owned sheeple.
Mweh.
Welcome to the Animal Farm Mr PIPpy.
June 17th, 2007 at 10:50 pmI’m the AXE
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
I’m the Broad Field of Light and Nothing.
June 17th, 2007 at 10:54 pmI’m the Broad Field of Light and Nothing.
Comment by Zep Tepi — June 17, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
Then you can’t exist
June 17th, 2007 at 10:56 pmI’m the Broad Field of Light and Nothing.
Comment by Zep Tepi — June 17, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
Unless you’re in someone else’s shadow
June 17th, 2007 at 10:56 pmThen you can’t exist
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
How can a shadow exist without light?
June 17th, 2007 at 11:39 pmHey Zep,
You’re gonna make the Prez pop a vein in his head. :D
June 17th, 2007 at 11:49 pmYou’re gonna make the Prez pop a vein in his head. :D
Comment by Zooey — June 17, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
I thought I had already done that! :D
(Honest, I didn’t mean to.)
June 17th, 2007 at 11:53 pmStupid me, reading comprehension problem. I thought you said it was your head. Boy is my face red.
And not Communist Red, in case anyone was thinking that. :)
June 17th, 2007 at 11:55 pmHow can a shadow exist without light?
Comment by Zep Tepi — June 17, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
It can not
June 17th, 2007 at 11:59 pmAnd not Communist Red, in case anyone was thinking that. :)
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Heh. We all know you’re more of a pinko. :D
June 18th, 2007 at 12:00 amShall we cut to the chase:
There is no Being without Nothingness,
June 18th, 2007 at 12:01 amThere is no Nothingness without Being.
I did not know that… that is, I did not know that FDR was a moron.
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 17, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
Yeah, between you and FDR, he’s the moron. Glad you got it all figured out.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:15 amYes, I spray the AXE on my Z*onism and Fascism areas… for the ladies. ;)
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 17, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
Like you’re ever near “the ladies”, good one.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:17 amHey, where’d Mr. Roy G. Biv-Nothing go?
June 18th, 2007 at 12:41 amI was in the O.E.M. when Gulianani found out how dirty the site really was and the level of hazmat involved.
His first words where- “It will ruin the economy” not “we have to evacuate the population”. All else follows from there. He is not someone we want to govern the “people” of this country. When those who knew advised to evacuate the civilian population of lower Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens, the next word from his mouth where “We can’t, they will loot, and riot and kill each other”. He had less faith in the people of NYC then all of us. The people of New York are at their finest when the world is falling apart.
This is not a man we want in any office; let alone the highest. The safety of the people of New York was never his priority, just there mony.
June 18th, 2007 at 8:08 amGuiliani – Thompson ‘08.
Rudy is going to win this thing easily.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:51 amThis can be Guiliani’s “swift boat” sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 18th, 2007 at 1:46 pm