Comments on: Blair feared U.S. would ‘nuke the sh*t’ out of Afghans. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:03:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Martin Gifford http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3868362 Martin Gifford Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:05:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3868362 Mr Blair told Michael Parkinson… how he had struggled with his conscience when making decisions about a potential war in Iraq. "When you're faced with a decision like that, and some of those decisions have been very, very difficult, most of all because you know... there are people's lives... and, in some case, their death," he said. "The only way you can take a decision like that is to try to do the right thing according to your conscience." <strong>He said: "I think if you have faith about these things, then you realise that that judgement is made by other people... and if you believe in God, it's made by God as well."</strong> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4773124.stm Mr Blair told Michael Parkinson… how he had struggled with his conscience when making decisions about a potential war in Iraq.

“When you’re faced with a decision like that, and some of those decisions have been very, very difficult, most of all because you know… there are people’s lives… and, in some case, their death,” he said.

“The only way you can take a decision like that is to try to do the right thing according to your conscience.”

He said: “I think if you have faith about these things, then you realise that that judgement is made by other people… and if you believe in God, it’s made by God as well.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4773124.stm

]]> By: Jay Severin has a small pen1s http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3865951 Jay Severin has a small pen1s Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:44:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3865951 I have no problem with the Afghan invasion. You could see the issues in that place during the Clinton regime. It's the Iraq thing that got me. Poorly done and unnecessary. I'm worried they are going to nuke the Middle East because of it's instability...exacerbated by the US, of course. I have no problem with the Afghan invasion. You could see the issues in that place during the Clinton regime. It’s the Iraq thing that got me. Poorly done and unnecessary. I’m worried they are going to nuke the Middle East because of it’s instability…exacerbated by the US, of course.

]]> By: nickFFF http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3865947 nickFFF Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:15:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3865947 Not that I'm looking at this with rose-tinted glasses, but the British government's line to their public was always that it was best for Tony Blair to go along with what the Bush administration was doing in public discourse and in foreign policy, that way he'd at least be able to exert a moderating influence over the crazies in private - it was the only way they could sell such craven behavior on the international stage to the electorate. There were very few signs at the time that sucking up to Washington by pitching in to their wars had given increased access but perhaps the alternative, had Blair not marched in lockstep with Bush, would have been even worse. Not that I’m looking at this with rose-tinted glasses, but the British government’s line to their public was always that it was best for Tony Blair to go along with what the Bush administration was doing in public discourse and in foreign policy, that way he’d at least be able to exert a moderating influence over the crazies in private – it was the only way they could sell such craven behavior on the international stage to the electorate. There were very few signs at the time that sucking up to Washington by pitching in to their wars had given increased access but perhaps the alternative, had Blair not marched in lockstep with Bush, would have been even worse.

]]> By: Martin Gifford http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3865930 Martin Gifford Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:24:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3865930 <strong>Untrue, Christopher Meyer! It's a rationalisation after the fact. On the Parkinson TV show, Blair said he prayed to God, and God told him to do it. Also, he (Blair) was keen on getting rid of Saddam from 1998.</strong> Untrue, Christopher Meyer! It’s a rationalisation after the fact.

On the Parkinson TV show, Blair said he prayed to God, and God told him to do it.

Also, he (Blair) was keen on getting rid of Saddam from 1998.

]]> By: ardee http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3865654 ardee Tue, 19 Jun 2007 03:59:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3865654 well.. at least he had the "without thinking" part dead on... well.. at least he had the “without thinking” part dead on…

]]> By: DM http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3865478 DM Tue, 19 Jun 2007 02:05:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3865478 ...... remember, once upon the time the Bush Administration floated the idea of <strong>tactucal nukes</strong> around when concerned about the caves in tora bora ...... …… remember, once upon the time the Bush Administration floated the idea of tactucal nukes around when concerned about the caves in tora bora ……

]]> By: HeckuvahJob Brownie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3865321 HeckuvahJob Brownie Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:46:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3865321 Tony is buying "insurance" here. As if to say, if somebody (Afganistan, Iran, Pakistan??) ends up getting nuked, it's because I'm no longer there, as a peacemaker, of course, to prevent it. But does he know something about nuke plans that the rest of us don't? Tony is buying “insurance” here.

As if to say, if somebody (Afganistan, Iran, Pakistan??) ends up getting nuked, it’s because I’m no longer there, as a peacemaker, of course, to prevent it.

But does he know something about nuke plans that the rest of us don’t?

]]> By: jason http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3865311 jason Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:41:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3865311 @ps a <em>Nations that can stand up a military are restrained enough not to nuke the Taliban, even AFTER 911.</em> <strong> 9/11 was not perpetrated by the Taliban. Period.</strong> <em>Iran lacks the self-restraint and is most assuredly following a path of destruction that threatens the free, civilized world.</em> I think you mean America, right? @ps a

Nations that can stand up a military are restrained enough not to nuke the Taliban, even AFTER 911.

9/11 was not perpetrated by the Taliban. Period.

Iran lacks the self-restraint and is most assuredly following a path of destruction that threatens the free, civilized world.

I think you mean America, right?

]]> By: ps a http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3865303 ps a Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:34:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3865303 Bunk. Nations that can stand up a military are restrained enough not to nuke the Taliban, even AFTER 911. The rest of the world most likely couldn't say the same about their own nations, or leaders. Iran lacks the self-restraint and is most assuredly following a path of destruction that threatens the free, civilized world. But keep blaming America! It's safe, easy, cost nothing ... except our souls, future, hardwon heritage. Bunk.

Nations that can stand up a military are restrained enough not to nuke the Taliban, even AFTER 911.

The rest of the world most likely couldn’t say the same about their own nations, or leaders.

Iran lacks the self-restraint and is most assuredly following a path of destruction that threatens the free, civilized world.

But keep blaming America! It’s safe, easy, cost nothing … except our souls, future, hardwon heritage.

]]> By: El Tonno http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3865294 El Tonno Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:30:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3865294 > I don’t buy it. Doesn’t pass the smell test. Indeed. Everyone knew that the US, being the armored cockroach with an attitude that it is, would go medieval on the .. er .. medieval country of Afghanistan but generally no-one thought about nukes. Uncertain was only how long the campaign would take, with Afghanistan known as the Graveyard of Empires etc., whereby a long campaign might possibly have given incentive to tactical nuking, but in the end all went "well", in a manner of speaking. Related: Why the Joint Chiefs of Staff are a failed institution: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/06/17/joint_failure?mode=PF > I don’t buy it. Doesn’t pass the smell test.

Indeed. Everyone knew that the US, being the armored cockroach with an attitude that it is, would go medieval on the .. er .. medieval country of Afghanistan but generally no-one thought about nukes. Uncertain was only how long the campaign would take, with Afghanistan known as the Graveyard of Empires etc., whereby a long campaign might possibly have given incentive to tactical nuking, but in the end all went “well”, in a manner of speaking.

Related:

Why the Joint Chiefs of Staff are a failed institution:

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/06/17/joint_failure?mode=PF

]]> By: jason http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3865286 jason Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:27:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3865286 Tony Blair = War Criminal. So why should we believe anything this fartbag has to say? 9/11 was a lie, all wars are lies, and WWWIII is completely avoidable. Tell your family you love them, read up on some <em>real </em>history, realize these wars are based on lies, false-flag terror, and greed, and <strong>GET OUT THERE AND END THIS WAR WITH ME!</strong> Tony Blair = War Criminal. So why should we believe anything this fartbag has to say? 9/11 was a lie, all wars are lies, and WWWIII is completely avoidable. Tell your family you love them, read up on some real history, realize these wars are based on lies, false-flag terror, and greed, and GET OUT THERE AND END THIS WAR WITH ME!

]]> By: HeckuvahJob Brownie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3865277 HeckuvahJob Brownie Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:23:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3865277 Afgans must be wondering: With friend like Tony, who needs enemies?? Afgans must be wondering:

With friend like Tony, who needs enemies??

]]> By: margaret http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3865168 margaret Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:28:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3865168 I don't buy it. Doesn't pass the smell test. I don’t buy it. Doesn’t pass the smell test.

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3865081 ForTruth Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:02:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3865081 Squeegie and Tundra, very nice. Blair knew he was dealing with a little man capable of temper tantrums. Squeegie and Tundra, very nice.

Blair knew he was dealing with a little man capable of temper tantrums.

]]> By: Eskwaya http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3865025 Eskwaya Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:41:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3865025 Nice try, Ambassador Meyer, but the Blair legacy will remain that of "lap-dog". That supposed logic of following Bush into Afghanistan does not account for Blair's Iraq stance and involvement. Nice try, Ambassador Meyer, but the Blair legacy will remain that of “lap-dog”. That supposed logic of following Bush into Afghanistan does not account for Blair’s Iraq stance and involvement.

]]> By: squegeebooo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3865007 squegeebooo Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:35:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3865007 Zooey <em>Great tag-team action. :D</em> What can I say, you know how we roll. Zooey
Great tag-team action. :D

What can I say, you know how we roll.

]]> By: Joel http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3864953 Joel Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:13:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3864953 Blair was worried about Afghanistan but NOT Iraq...? That makes a lot of sense, especially since nearly the entire world had our back with going into Afghanistan... Blair was worried about Afghanistan but NOT Iraq…? That makes a lot of sense, especially since nearly the entire world had our back with going into Afghanistan…

]]> By: Buck Fush http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3864939 Buck Fush Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:07:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3864939 Well, Bubbleboy is still wanting to "Nuke the Sh!t" out of someplace that has people with brown skin, he wants to nuke Iran bad. IGNORE THE TROLLS - Debate good, Trolls suck Well, Bubbleboy is still wanting to “Nuke the Sh!t” out of someplace that has people with brown skin, he wants to nuke Iran bad.

IGNORE THE TROLLS – Debate good, Trolls suck

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3864927 Zooey Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:03:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3864927 Squeegy & Tundra, Great tag-team action. :D Squeegy & Tundra,

Great tag-team action. :D

]]> By: G Smith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3864901 G Smith Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:53:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/18/blair-backed-bush-in-afghanistan-to-avoid-nuke-war/#comment-3864901 I've been stockpiling canned goods and as much bottled water as I can. I am totally convinced that bush/cheney intend to start WWIII. Even Condi is starting to get nervous. I’ve been stockpiling canned goods and as much bottled water as I can. I am totally convinced that bush/cheney intend to start WWIII. Even Condi is starting to get nervous.

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