Bush administration trying to ‘muzzle’ hurricane director.
Bill Proenza, head of the National Hurricane Center, recently spoke out and warned that the “federal government is spending millions of dollars on a publicity campaign that could be used to plug budget shortfalls hurricane forecasters are struggling with.” Because of his statements, officials are now “trying to muzzle him and could be setting him up for termination.”
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Hurricanes don’t do damage, people talking about them does.
June 18th, 2007 at 6:24 pmI guess he’s just not a “Bushie”.
June 18th, 2007 at 6:28 pmWhen will the Democrats act?
June 18th, 2007 at 6:31 pmTruth must be muzzled, so lies may proceed….
June 18th, 2007 at 6:32 pmI knew he’d be done for. You’re not allowed to actually tell the truth! What’s wrong with that man? And now he’s gone public with the fact that they’re trying to muzzle him?! He’s a goner for sure.
June 18th, 2007 at 6:33 pmYet another incident that screams about how these elites and their corporate friends don’t give a damn about Americans or what may or may not happen to them. Bottom line is money and power going their way. Every protection (including the Constitution and the Bill of Rights) that has ever been put in place to protect Americans are all slowly but surely unraveling and being totally dismantled.
June 18th, 2007 at 6:35 pmI frankly think we are on our own.
This dumbass deserves to be fired, just as I was for calling my place of business “a mess.”
June 18th, 2007 at 6:44 pmAbsolutely. After all, there are no Hurricanes now, are there? And you can’t just go around complaining about budget shortfalls for silly domestic concerns. Tsk tsk..
June 18th, 2007 at 6:48 pmIt’s really best if the people living in the hurricane zone aren’t given enough time to evacuate. There is no need to have better prediction models. It would better if those people just went out and bought some shoes.
June 18th, 2007 at 6:51 pmThis dumbass deserves to be fired, just as I was for calling my place of business “a mess.â€
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Guess you know dumbasses well, from all those years seeing yourself in the mirror, eh?
Did you even read the article, or does being a bushbot just come natural to you?
sheesh
June 18th, 2007 at 6:52 pmBush administration trying to ‘muzzle’ hurricane director.
Hmmm.
Isn’t that what Mark Foley was trying to do to his office assistant?
June 18th, 2007 at 6:53 pmTypical bushco reaction:
Play ball with us or we will stick the bat up your ass!
June 18th, 2007 at 6:54 pmThis guy should do what his boss says. If not, he might get fired!
Egan, out.
June 18th, 2007 at 6:58 pmFrom the USA article:
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is spending up to $4 million to publicize a 200th anniversary celebration while the agency has cut $700,000 from hurricane research, Bill Proenza said.
Even the stupidest bushbot should see the stupidity of the Bush (mis)administration on this issue.
Except for PRIMVS INTER PARES, that is………..
June 18th, 2007 at 7:00 pmHe’s not being muzzled. I don’t even have a muzzle. I’m not a dog trainer.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:05 pmWe know there is no room for competence in this administration. Off with his head!
June 18th, 2007 at 7:05 pmTypical bushco reaction:
Play ball with us or we will stick the bat up your ass!
Comment by Clyde the Ripper
Forgot to mention, Bushco sticks the bat in sideways.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:05 pmWhats’ new? Time for our newly elected Congress to stand up and DO SOMETHING.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:13 pmDid you even read the article, or does being a bushbot just come natural to you?
sheesh
Comment by Wayne — June 18, 2007 @ 6:52 pm
Actually, yes, I did.
I also read a similar article about 2 weeks ago.
As for my being a “bushbot,” it seems from your inability to discriminate pertinent and impertinent facts that you, in fact, are the automaton.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:13 pmEven the stupidest bushbot should see the stupidity of the Bush (mis)administration on this issue.
Except for PRIMVS INTER PARES, that is………..
Comment by Wayne — June 18, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
Not only this issue, as I’m sure you’re aware. Either un-intentionally or intentionally, the Bush administration is destroying just about everything. If you were to posit how everything should be, BushCo is doing practically the opposite in every case. Yet the Democrats are sitting with their thumbs up their asses, too scared, too worried about losing money from their keepers, to do a damn thing about it.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:18 pmThis dumbass deserves to be fired, just as I was for calling my place of business “a mess.â€
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Were human lives put at risk if you didn’t speak up about the mess? If not, then what is your point?
And when you work for the government you are SUPPOSED to work for the citizens. You Bushies thinking all government workers should only be interested in making Bushco look good is what got us into this big pile of crap.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:20 pmIt would better if those people just went out and bought some shoes.
Comment by Yikes — June 18, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
Like Condi during Hurrican Katrina?
June 18th, 2007 at 7:21 pmMr. Pares, you stated that the man should be fired for calling your place of business a “mess.” But nowhere in the article does he call anything a mess. He says that they shouldn’t mess with something. You are obviously confused. Maybe this is a language thing. In English, the word “mess” can be used as a verb or a noun. Get it now? Good. OK, carry on with your complete nonsense. It’s somewhat entertaining.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:22 pmHe’s not being muzzled. I don’t even have a muzzle. I’m not a dog trainer.
Comment by LoyalBushie
We know, LoyalBushies all use kinky sex muzzles.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:24 pmGood Lord, Col. Jack, you are quite idiot.
Shane, lovely t’ see ya.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:25 pmErratum: post #25) line 1 should read -
Good Lord, Col. Jack, you are quite the idiot.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:26 pmShane, lovely t’ see ya.
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Hmm, I wonder what that’s all about?
June 18th, 2007 at 7:27 pm“This dumbass deserves to be fired, just as I was for calling my place of business “a mess.â€
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 18, 2007″
is that why you’re not ‘mr. president’ anymore?
June 18th, 2007 at 7:32 pmBill Proenza, head of the National Hurricane Center, recently warned that spoke out and warned that the
Not to be picky [I hate when people say that] but even a lowly, uneducated mouth breathing simpleton, like myself (according to the wise diploma laden aspergerians on this forum) can detect grammatical errors.
Erratum: post #25) line 1 should read -
Good Lord, Col. Jack, you are quite the idiot.
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
If this weren’t so blatantly hypocritical it would be funny, aw hell, who am I kidding, you are funny! =)
June 18th, 2007 at 7:32 pmLike Condi during Hurrican Katrina?
Comment by shane — June 18, 2007 @ 7:21 pm
That’s correct shane. Bill Proenza won’t be getting ‘Hell of a job Billy.” from Bush, unless of course he changes the hurricane ratings to a scale of 10 and a current cat 5 gets changed to a 2.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:34 pmBy all means Mr. President, everyone knows that if we simply allow the early warning satellite over the Atlantic/Caribbean to go dark, there will simply be no more hurricanes.
Brilliant!
Sort of like outlawing abortions in order to prevent unwanted pregnancies, right?
Brilliant!
June 18th, 2007 at 7:35 pmI suggested to Mr. Pares that he might have a language problem.
His response: “Good Lord, Col. Jack, you are quite idiot.”
I rest my case.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:39 pmSince this administration is nothing but a bunch of animals themselves, they know all about “muzzling” techniques.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:39 pmHmm, I wonder what that’s all about?
Comment by shane — June 18, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
You know…
the way you bring cheer to the thread like a spring breeze,
full of love and life,
full of happiness.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:41 pmI seem to recall a time when even the firing of a couple of workers at the Whitehouse travel office was worth a congressional investigation, and media saturation for a couple of months. It was one of the first of the phony Clinton “scandals.” TRAVELGATE!!! My, my how times have changed. Now, the same people who were just disgusted with that kind of behavior think a guy should be fired for expressing his honest opinion.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:54 pmCan the complete absence of credibility be diminished? I think not. According to The Source of Leadership (www.thesourceofleadership.com), credibility is defined as: posesses competency and displays consistency and wholeness in words and behavior, such that others have a deep confidence in his or her abilities and character. Bush is less than nothing.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:54 pmLater, Shane.
I’ll let you know when I get back. :)
June 18th, 2007 at 7:58 pmthink a guy should be fired for expressing his honest opinion.
There is no room in Bush’s admin. for honest opinion.
June 18th, 2007 at 8:00 pmIf this weren’t so blatantly hypocritical (comma needed) it would be funny, (use a period–not a comma) aw hell, who(SIC) am I kidding(question mark needed–not a comma), you are funny! =)
Comment by Patrick1 —
Patsy0
June 18th, 2007 at 8:24 pmYou might pay attention to your own spelling and grammar when you try to correct others. Ever heard of using a capital letter to start a sentence, or a period or question mark to end one? I didn’t think so. And your question should read “whom am I kidding?”
BTW, do you have anything to say about the topic, or is this another case of your simply having to post some blather no matter what?
Setting him up for termination alright.
Just like ‘The Terminator’.
June 18th, 2007 at 8:29 pmLook there’s no problem if blacks and poor white die as Bush sees it. The US Treasury could save alot of money if again the White House watched these people die without help. Now it could send the social security problem and the health care expenses. As the one party system of Republicans take over blacks/Spanish/poor whites can always work the fields and work for a Master. Paris could use a slave to pick up after her.
June 18th, 2007 at 8:39 pmActually, yes, I did.
I also read a similar article about 2 weeks ago.
Then you definately have a reading comprehension problem
As for my being a “bushbot,†it seems from your inability to discriminate pertinent and impertinent facts that you, in fact, are the automaton.
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
I take back the bushbot comment.
June 18th, 2007 at 8:41 pmI see now that you are just a f*cking moron with no critical thinking skills, my mistake.
BTW, do you have anything to say about the topic, or is this another case of your simply having to post some blather no matter what?
Comment by Lora
Awww (comma) so sweet of you to ignore TPs (strong) atrocious (/strong) error (Period) Who am (aka whom) am I (me, myself) kiddin (misspelling intentional) (period)
How do you spell aw (comma) Lora (question mark)
June 18th, 2007 at 8:47 pmI see now that you are just a f*cking moron with no critical thinking skills, my mistake.
Comment by Wayne —
That is not the way to spell f*cking (sic) (period) =) (smiley face)
June 18th, 2007 at 8:49 pmAs (Capital A) for this thread (comma) Lora (Capital L) (Comma) people are fired all the time with absolutely no reason given (Exclamation mark) Silly (Capital S) Lobtards (Capital L) (period)
June 18th, 2007 at 8:57 pmWho am (aka whom) am I (me, myself) kiddin (misspelling intentional) (period)
How do you spell aw (comma) Lora (question mark)
Comment by Patrick1 —
How do you know that I haven’t contacted TP privately about the mistake? In fact, sometimes do this.
June 18th, 2007 at 9:14 pmBTW, “who am I”–not “whom am I”–is correct here, as “who” is the subject–not the object–of the sentence.
Now that you have shown us that you know how to spell the names of punctuation marks, why don’t you try using them sometimes, Patsy?
“Now that you have shown us that you know how to spell the names of punctuation marks, why don’t you try using them sometimes, Patsy?
Comment by Lora — June 18, 2007 ”
please, he’ll never use quote marks when he cuts and pastes his talking points because he likes to pretend charles krauthammer’s words are his own.
June 18th, 2007 at 9:21 pmPatrick in a (4th grade) English class.
June 18th, 2007 at 9:33 pmComment by Patrick1 — June 18, 2007 @ 8:57 pm
Thanks Patrick1 for giving me the opportunity to discuss this issue.
Climate Change, and how it impacts hurricanes - their frequency & strength should be important to every one of us. (I’m assuming that since you don’t give a sh1t Patrick1, that you live in a disaster free zone).
But, whether or not rain from a hurricane falls on your doorstep, you AND I are paying for hurricanes that hit America.
So, when the Bush administration cuts funding for hurricane research, they are hurting you and I. But go ahead, keep supporting this administration blindly, it looks like you enjoy paying for things you don’t have to.
June 18th, 2007 at 9:42 pmI’m beginning to wonder if this patrick1 troll is really our old “friend” and well-financed global warming skeptic Patrick J. Michaels?
Just a theory and I know I could be way wrong. His denials would mean nothing to me.
June 18th, 2007 at 9:48 pmSo, when the Bush administration cuts funding for hurricane research, they are hurting you and I.
Provided you feel it is the Federal Governments responsibility to take care of all damage caused by natural disasters. Why does the Federal Government step in on some hurricanes but not others, why when Buffalo NY has a snow storm that destroys someones house, the Federal givernment isn’t taking care of that?
They blow off tornado/ice/flood/fire damage people have and leave that to private insurance companies, but hurricanes are all of our responsibility? To me is sounds like preferential treatment to people who have choosen to live in hurricane zones.
June 18th, 2007 at 9:49 pmThey blow off tornado/ice/flood/fire damage people have and leave that to private insurance companies, but hurricanes are all of our responsibility? To me is sounds like preferential treatment to people who have choosen to live in hurricane zones.
Comment by Tundra — June 18, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
Riiiight, like ‘earthquake zones’ and ‘tornado zones’? One of the responsibilities of the Federal gov’t is to look after our well being, after being struck by an ‘act of god’. Such as protecting us from gun-toting looters, feeding and housing us.
I really can’t believe you’re serious. Anyone? Tundra a troll?
June 18th, 2007 at 9:55 pmComment by Wayne — June 18, 2007 @ 8:41 pm
From the USA article:
NOAA spokesman Anson Franklin said the agency is actually only spending about $1.5 million on the campaign over two years.
Franklin said NOAA spends $300 million a year on hurricane forecasting and research
NOAA’s annual budget is about $4 billion.
The hurricane center has a $6.3 million annual budget.
Now, how much is dis fool bitchin’ ’bout?
$700,000?!?!?!
June 18th, 2007 at 9:56 pmTo me is sounds like preferential treatment to people who have choosen to live in hurricane zones.
Comment by Tundra
A little research into the National Board of Realtors, and their campaign contribution patterns, speaks volumes.
June 18th, 2007 at 9:59 pmOne of the responsibilities of the Federal gov’t is to look after our well being, after being struck by an ‘act of god’.
Where is that at in the constitution, I seem to have trouble finding it? The way I “read” Republic the states held the real power for such things and being closer to the needs of the people they were in a much better position to decide what was needed.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:02 pmI really can’t believe you’re serious. Anyone? Tundra a troll?
Comment by Namtillaku — June 18, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
No, just believe in this silly piece of paper called the constitution that both sides love to pull through the dirt. They find something that happened and pray on tragedy to strip your rights away.
9-11 gave them excuses to take more liberty with your rights, Hurricane Katrina same thing. turned it into a Federal Issue whick if you look at the amount of money thrown at disaster relief in the past 2 years is huge.
Nothing like having President Bush responsibile for how much water is at your city hall and using your money to send people around to rework your local officials evacuation plans.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:08 pmWe the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Now, who can tell me where that’s from? Anyone? Anyone?
June 18th, 2007 at 10:08 pmComment by Tundra — June 18, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
Listen fukwit, I’m not going to debate the constitution with you. You proposed how people living in hurricanes zones are getting preferential treatment after having chosen to live there. Where do you live asshole? No tornado, thunderstorm, earthquake can hit you? Or do you subscribe to the; “if it’s not me I don’t care, because I don’t give two sh1ts about anyone else” way of thinking?
Part of living in a society, is looking out for each other. It’s one of the things that brings us together, makes us a country, in the first place. But you 28%’ers don’t feel that way do you?
June 18th, 2007 at 10:13 pmpromote the general Welfare
Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution refers to the “general welfare†thus: “The Congress shall have the Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States. . .â€
The preamble clearly defines the two major functions of government: (1) ensuring justice, personal freedom, and a free society where individuals are protected from domestic lawbreakers and criminals, and; (2) protecting the people of the United States from foreign aggressors.
When the Founding Fathers said that “WE THE PEOPLE†established the Constitution to “promote the general Welfare,†they did not mean the federal government would have the power to aid education, build roads, and subsidize business. Likewise, Article 1, Section 8 did not give Congress the right to use tax money for whatever social and economic programs Congress might think would be good for the “general welfare.â€
June 18th, 2007 at 10:14 pmWhen the Founding Fathers said that “WE THE PEOPLE†established the Constitution to “promote the general Welfare,†they did not mean the federal government would have the power to aid education, build roads, and subsidize business. Likewise, Article 1, Section 8 did not give Congress the right to use tax money for whatever social and economic programs Congress might think would be good for the “general welfare.â€
Comment by Tundra — June 18, 2007 @ 10:14 pm
Article I, Sec 8, Clause 7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
And I still interpret aiding education as part of promoting the general welfare. But I agree that it doesn’t have the power to subsidize business. But they do. Especially the big, giant corporations.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:21 pmForgot the link sorry
http://www.lawandliberty.org/genwel.htm
June 18th, 2007 at 10:21 pmAnd I still interpret aiding education as part of promoting the general welfare.
My disagreement with that is we end up with people from California deciding what children in Uma Alabama need to know. Parents need the rights to have an input on what their children learn and the best way to promote that is through localized governments.
But they do. Especially the big, giant corporations.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:24 pmThat they do and when I am president it will stop :)
BTW, there has long been a dispute over whether the Constitution was written for the people or for the states. One opponent of the proposed constitution said, “What authorized them to speak the language of, We, the People instead of We, the States?” That was none other than Patrick Henry, in Virginia Constitutional Convention, June 1778.
His side lost the argument.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:27 pmThat they do and when I am president it will stop :)
Comment by Tundra — June 18, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
Me, too. So, we do have some common ground after all. Good. That’s always good to have in a debate. :)
June 18th, 2007 at 10:28 pmI really can’t believe you’re serious. Anyone? Tundra a troll?
Comment by Namtillaku — June 18, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
Guess I’ll just have to answer my own question, and the evidence is clear, Tundra is a troll. Derail conversation away from the topic at hand. In this case, the Bush administration’s attempt to silence a whistle blower.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:29 pmSo I’d like to thank this guy for bringing this problem to national attention. But the angle about “muzzling” him just doesn’t pass the smell test. If you’re some kinda bigwig and you criticize your bosses in public, you’re likely to get fired under any administration, no matter how right you are. In fact, the more usual procedure in a case like this is to resign, and *then* blow the lid off.
I think it would be productive to stress the angle that the Bush administration has its priorities screwed up on not replacing this satellite. But the muzzling angle, on this particular case, just doesn’t sound right. There are plenty of other meaty instances of the Bushies trying to shut people up — like the climate scientists who were pressured to keep quiet about global warming — and you just kinda water it down by pushing a weak instance like this.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:34 pmTundra is a troll. Derail conversation away from the topic at hand.
I thought the topic at hand was the Federal Government wasting money on projects they shouldn’t be spending it on in the first place (Hurricane research). Hurrican research is a SPECIFIC not GENERAL WELFARE item.
That being said, all of the money is being wasted, even the money your guy is blowing on and on about. They should be quartered for spending the money in the first place and not just for the 1.5 million but for the whole budget.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:34 pmAnd if you take the preamble and re-arrange the words so that it’s a little clearer says:
We the People of the United States do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America in Order to:
1) form a more perfect Union,
2) establish Justice,
3) insure domestic Tranquility,
4) provide for the common defence,
5) promote the general Welfare, and
6) secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.
So, I count six things they were trying to accomplish.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:34 pmIf you’re some kinda bigwig and you criticize your bosses in public, you’re likely to get fired under any administration, no matter how right you are. In fact, the more usual procedure in a case like this is to resign, and *then* blow the lid off.
Comment by Dave — June 18, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
Ah, but if you quit, you can’t collect unemployment. But you can if you’re fired.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:37 pmSo, I count six things they were trying to accomplish.
I concur with your findings. I think the big place we differ is the word “General”
My hardline stance would place general as something that truly effects every American.
Perhaps:
FDA (Although they have royaly screwed this up)
USDA
Water Purity standards
I’m sure we could come up with a couple more, but I feel everything else should be left to the state.
thinking about it I may even give in on Education as far as standards go. (Being my view I can adjust as needed heh). I could even see a case for Global Warming
June 18th, 2007 at 10:40 pmMy hardline stance would place general as something that truly effects every American.
Sounds like you’re a libertarian, like me, Tundra, except that you’re a conservative libertarian while I’m a liberal libertarian. My stance on what “general welfare” means is more, for want of a better word, “liberal” than yours.
And I’m glad that you support water purity standards. Liberals fought hard for that one while facing opposition from conservatives. I guess the conservatives thought you should be allowed to dump anything you want into the waters. Same with clean air standards.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:45 pmit’s pretty convenient that disaster funds are diverted…
…just as news leaks that bush has his dictatorship all ready to launch for the next “national emergency”.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:48 pmAnd I’m glad that you support water purity standards.
Yeah, everyone is required to have food/water/air and shelter (this one opens up a whole other ball of discussions) as the basic necessities.
The government regulating those to a point that meets minimum standards for survivability of us all. While states should be able to adopt stricter standards, we have moved to a point where the government makes the standards and requires the states to move along or loose some other carrot.
Patrick Henry, in Virginia Constitutional Convention, June 1778.
His side lost the argument.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:59 pmSad day, sad sad day
Sad day, sad sad day
Comment by Tundra — June 18, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
Well, we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Even though that pretty much guarantees more dusoutes between us. :)
I an’t keep staying up late like this, and The Daily Show, with guest Steve Carrell, is on. So good night, Tundra.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:02 pmComment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 18, 2007 @ 11:02 pm
Night Wayne, was fun as always.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:05 pm“dusoutes” is a word my fingers made up for “disputes”.
Sorry about that.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:10 pm‘This dumbass deserves to be fired, just as I was for calling my place of business “a mess.‒
I am thinking this was sarcasm. Were you right about your place of business. I said something similar years ago. I got fired. They were out of business within 3 years.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:32 pm“Tundra is a troll. Derail conversation away from the topic at hand.”
He used to be, that is a sure thing. Now I have seen way too much intelligent thought from him to say that.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:33 pmHe used to be, that is a sure thing.
I still have my moments :)
Now I have seen way too much intelligent thought from him to say that.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:42 pmThanks JPark, I’m sort of hoping a conversation I can really sink into comes up. TP has been running alot more lately so I am sure one is just around the corner.
Tundra, you used to disagree with everything posted on TP. Maybe you are now just posting on articles you agree with also? Or have you become more progressive? No insult intended here, by the way. I am curious.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:46 pmMaybe you are now just posting on articles you agree with also?
That’s pretty much it. I figured to actually show that I wasn’t “Anti-Progressives/Democrats” I needed to let people know when I did agree sometimes as well. It has made a huge difference and actual conversations take place now, so that’s good.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:53 pmIt is nice to see that Tundra. It is really hard to take someone seriously when they do nothing but bash us. We are used to that with the trolls. You now have street cred…at least with me.
June 19th, 2007 at 12:07 amHmm, I wonder what that’s all about?
Comment by shane — June 18, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
You know…
the way you bring cheer to the thread like a spring breeze,
full of love and life,
full of happiness.
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Gee, PIPpy, sorry I was out with my family and couldn’t be here to brighten your day. Because you know, that’s what I’m here for, to stroke the egos of you hard working trolls who contribute so much to the topics progressives care about.
I know this is confusing for you, heck what isn’t, but some of us really care about this country and how Bushco is trying to destroy it. So if you feel that I’m being harsh to you, well at least you have a clue about one thing.
Apparently nothing is important to you besides your paycheck, sad as that tiny little thing is. But tiny little things, well your used to them aren’t you? Oh let me give you a tip, so then you’ll know about two things, SIZE MATTERS.
June 19th, 2007 at 12:16 amShane is the best, Claypool. Bash her and you lose the only person that actually likes you, here.
June 19th, 2007 at 12:18 amShane is the best, Claypool. Bash her and you lose the only person that actually likes you, here.
Comment by JPark
Thanks JPark. And Tundra, thanks for the positive action you are taking. It means a lot.
June 19th, 2007 at 12:28 amApparently nothing is important to you besides your paycheck, sad as that tiny little thing is. But tiny little things, well your used to them aren’t you? Oh let me give you a tip, so then you’ll know about two things, SIZE MATTERS.
Comment by shane
Eeeeewwww… that’s GOTTA hurt…
June 19th, 2007 at 1:00 amOh let me give you a tip, so then you’ll know about two things, SIZE MATTERS.
Comment by shane — June 19, 2007 @ 12:16 am
Well I guess I’m sh!t out of luck! :(
June 19th, 2007 at 6:47 am