Failing Pakistan Policy ‘Essentially Being Run From Cheney’s Office’
Failing Pakistan Policy ‘Essentially Being Run From Cheney’s Office’
The extremely close U.S. partnership with Pakistan’s General Musharraf has come under increasing scrutiny, as Musharraf continues to crack down on the country’s civil society and a new generation of al Qaeda leaders under Osama bin Laden have led a resurgence in Pakistan.
The Bush administration “has put itself in the embarrassing position of propping up the Muslim world’s most powerful military dictator as an essential ally in its half-baked campaign to promote democracy throughout the Muslim world,” the New York Times editorialized last week. “Washington needs to disentangle America, quickly, from the general’s damaging embrace.”
In yesterday’s Washington Post, respected Pakistan analyst Ahmed Rashid explained a key problem with current U.S. policy:
The problem is exacerbated by a dramatic drop-off in U.S. expertise on Pakistan. Retired American officials say that, for the first time in U.S. history, nobody with serious Pakistan experience is working in the South Asia bureau of the State Department, on State’s policy planning staff, on the National Security Council staff or even in Vice President Cheney’s office. Anne W. Patterson, the new U.S. ambassador to Islamabad, is an expert on Latin American “drugs and thugs”; Richard A. Boucher, the assistant secretary of state for South and Central Asian affairs, is a former department spokesman who served three tours in Hong Kong and China but never was posted in South Asia. “They know nothing of Pakistan,” a former senior U.S. diplomat said.
Current and past U.S. officials tell me that Pakistan policy is essentially being run from Cheney’s office. The vice president, they say, is close to Musharraf and refuses to brook any U.S. criticism of him. This all fits; in recent months, I’m told, Pakistani opposition politicians visiting Washington have been ushered in to meet Cheney’s aides, rather than taken to the State Department.
Cheney’s office has been linked to some of the most damaging and reckless policies carried out under President Bush, including the origins of the war in the Iraq, warrantless domestic spying, the historic expansion of executive authority and the sanctioning of torture. It’s no surprise to find Cheney’s fingerprints on the failing U.S.-Pakistan policy as well.
UPDATE: Harper’s Scott Horton has more.
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….and this is a surprise to who?
June 18th, 2007 at 11:21 amCheney strikes again.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:21 amSorry for the typo, folks. That should read “Run From Cheney’s Orifice.”
June 18th, 2007 at 11:21 amOsama bin who?
June 18th, 2007 at 11:22 amamazing. and yet, the chatterati of the wdc media circuit pretend that chimpy is in charge.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:25 amCheney loves thugs like Musharraf, because Pakistan’s dictator reminds Dick of himself.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:26 amFrom the look on BigDick’sâ„¢ face, it must have been a pretty busy day at the orifice when this picture got taken.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:29 amWhat?
Vader is a bad guy? Who knew?
June 18th, 2007 at 11:30 amCheney needs to find someone from Regent to get busy converting the Pakistanis to Xianity.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:30 amCONSTITUTION IN CRISIS: Every member of the Bush Cabal as well as every Republican Sycophant who “aided and abetted” this crisis will be held accountable to the People. Charges of Congressional “abdication and derelection of duty” by members of Congress shall be considered a violation of this Constitution. It’s time for the people to bring charges against these criminals – both in this administration as well as those in Congress who have enabled the trampling of our constitution.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:30 amEverything Heartless Cheney touches turns rapidly to total $hit! That goes for his puppet, Chimpy, too.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:31 amIt’s no wonder that his heart is in such bad shape; you see, he was born without one and this one is a transplant which is refusing to cooperate.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:32 amProbably has a nice direct line to the ISI….. I wonder who the bagman is?
June 18th, 2007 at 11:33 amWill Cheney’s pacemaker vote on a deadline for complete withdrawal from Dick’s chest?
June 18th, 2007 at 11:37 amAnd what Policy involving the BushFamily Crime Cabal ISN’T failing?
June 18th, 2007 at 11:38 amnobody with serious Pakistan experience is working in the South Asia bureau of the State Department,…” – - Oh, they got them from Regent University too.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:39 amWhy does Pakistan host both American troops and OBL?
June 18th, 2007 at 11:42 amHey, all those young people get out of college w/ a degree in… in… Christianity? Would you prefer having them rove the streets in gangs, looting and pillaging as they go. Hmmm… sounds like the GOP anyways, doesn’t it? Okay, next good idea…
June 18th, 2007 at 11:43 amHe SOOO needs to go…… to prison.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:44 amWhy does Pakistan host both American troops and OBL?
Comment by DM
Because those Pakistanis really know how to throw a party!
June 18th, 2007 at 11:44 amHey, I think we just found George’s missing wrist watch!
June 18th, 2007 at 11:46 amThis has been the problem all along. Musharraf barely has a hold on the slippery reigns of power. He commands less than a 50 percent approval rating from his people (no wonder Bush likes him) and the majority of the country if given a choice between Musharraf and Osama Bin Laden choose Bin Laden.
What that means is Bin Laden does not need to attack the US. He merely needs to overthrow Musharraf. And since Bin Laden is hiding in Kashmir, (the disputed region between India and Pakistan, a known Al Quaida haunt) all he has to do is walk into Pakistan, and build his army as he goes.
Once he overthrows Musharraf, then he will have what he wants. Nuclear missles. In the silo’s, ready to go.
Then we’ll have a ballgame.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:48 amI would love to have DICK Cheney over for lunch…so I could turn on the microwave.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:48 amIt’s not enough for Chaney to screw up two countries, he’s shooting for the world.
Of course, the PNACers are all about world domination and we (every other person on the planet) are going to be so sorry when that bomb-heard-around-the-world (to steal and bast@rdize a phrase) thing happens.
We are going to wind up like 1940s Germany. Ashamed and apologizing to the world for decades to come. That’s if there’s anything or anyone left to apologize to.
Screwing up America is easy. We’re lemmings. Screwing up Iraq was a forcable act on a bunch of innocent people. Screwing up Pakistan means that the thing they most say they are fighting (Al Queda) is going to wind up with world class nukes.
Chaney has to be the biggest threat to human life on the planet. At what point is someone going to stop him?
June 18th, 2007 at 11:51 amn of propping up the Muslim world’s most powerful military dictator as an essential ally
Uh, well… ok. What’s the alternative? Abandoning him and supporting a transfer of power to a democratically elected government which will no doubt be overwhelmingly islamist in nature? You really want the atomic bomb in the hands of islamic militants, don’t you?
June 18th, 2007 at 11:52 amThere’s also AQ Kahn under “house arrest”
What a lovely despotic regime we are supporting (Cheney’s idea of democracy).
June 18th, 2007 at 11:53 amCheney said this on August 26, 2002, “Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.”
So why should anyone be surprised that he’s deeply involved in another failure? Heckuva job, Deadeye.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:55 amBut… but… GOPcurious, I thought we were exporting Democracy to the world! Are you suggesting we should support another dictator?
Oh wait, I got it… at least he’s our bastard.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:55 amCheney has his own agenda, and there is nothing in it to benefit this country.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:55 amOf course, all this is intentionally done. Inept people in critical positions tend to deteriorate situations. They want a perpetual war against something they called terrorism. Or they could just pull the commie card again…whatever, wars are needed to overfeed some people. Dont cry mommy when people storm the streets.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:55 amCheney reminds me of a sewage system;
full of gas, smells like shit and should be drained regularly.
Hey Nancy! I found the swamp you wanted to drain. Just one problem; it’s not a swamp, it’s a cesspool.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:55 amYou really want the atomic bomb in the hands of islamic militants, don’t you?
Comment by GOPcurious — June 18, 2007 @ 11:52 am
Thats exactly what is going to happen thanks to the Bush policy of ignoring Bin Laden and the real Al Quaida, (the Al Quaida in Iraq are just plebe’s in training) and shifting this nations time, energy and resources on a country that had nothing to do with our terrorism problem.
Your plan, lets call it “The Bush Plan”, is the best bet Osama has of striking us, or our allies with real WMD.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:59 amUm, will someone please tell this moron that if he wants to point the finger at anyone for an islamist democratically elected government or nukes in the hands of islamic militants, he should visit the Heritage Foundation or maybe NRO to complain?
Thanks!
June 18th, 2007 at 12:00 pmYou really want the atomic bomb in the hands of islamic militants, don’t you?
Comment by GOPcurious — June 18, 2007 @ 11:52 am
That is who is currently ruling Pakistan now. They enforce Islamic law and they are a hotbed for al-Qaeda. Pakistan is also where most of the weapons come from that are used on our troops in Afghanistan.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:01 pmCheney’s office is akin to a group home for failed policies.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:01 pmHey, get a clue. The President of the United States for the past 6.5 years has been Karl Rove and Dick Cheney. Everyone else (Bush, Rice, Gonzales, etc.) is a hand puppet.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:02 pmWell, dictators like to hang out together – Golf, torture, tennis, suppression of the press, open bar, kidnapping, just good times.
IGNORE THE TROLLS – Debate good, Trolls suck
June 18th, 2007 at 12:03 pmCheney is a very good example of effective branding.
How it works
The Brand:
Scowling face/Dead-eye
Businessman appearence, denotes competence
Tough talk
Refusal to heed authority as a claim of superiority/strength
The Reality:
The scowling face/Dead-eye: are practiced, character-actor tricks. What hides behind them is an overachieving, megalomaniacal ego with a mid-level bureaucrat’s skill level, at best.
Businessman appearence denotes competence: The brand is not supported by the product. Competence, in anything outside of promotion of the brand, has never been demonstrated.
Tough Talk: Big Dick never served in the military, and has probably never been in a fist fight. Big Dick is a big pussy.
Refusal to heed authority as a claim of superiority/strength: The dickster has pulled a fast one on his supporters here. Refusal to heed authority (even that of the POTUS) is also the best way to tie the system in knots long enough for a criminal to make his get-away.
It takes a lot of money and effort to promote a brand when the product line does not deliver on the promise of that brand. In the end, Cheney will be exposed for what he actually is: A coward, a criminal, and an incompetent. Let him run the show in Pakistan – he’ll blow it. Hopefully, his insistence on setting policy on-the-fly and outside the constitution will leave him holding the bag.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:03 pmI firmly believe that Richard Cheney sees himself as a modern John Adams. Pure Federalist.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:04 pmYou really want the atomic bomb in the hands of islamic militants, don’t you?
Comment by GOPcurious
Yes, for the sake of equilibrium. When was the last time US invaded a country that had nukes?
June 18th, 2007 at 12:04 pmLets see, a group housed in Afghanistan attacks us on 911, and President Bush decides an acceptable response is to invade Iraq.
Why?
Because Kashmir would have been too difficult of a place to invade.
Iraq was much easier.
And Bush knew we wanted to see all those dead Arabs.
:|
Good thing after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, FDR didn’t decide to invade Tibet. True they look similar to the Japs, but I doubt it would have helped us defeat Tojo.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:06 pmYes, for the sake of equilibrium. When was the last time US invaded a country that had nukes?
Unbelievable. Just unbelievable.
What makes you think that the islamists won’t use the bomb as an offensive weapon? Like slip a few suitcase nukes to various groups who’re into the business of blowing themselves and innocent people into bits? You really want an American city blown up by these lunatics?
June 18th, 2007 at 12:08 pm#34: No. He’s not an islamist. He’s a secularist who’s being targeted by the fanatics many times before.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:10 pmWorfeus. Nice to read you back.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:10 pmWhat makes you think that the islamists won’t use the bomb as an offensive weapon?
Comment by GOPspurious — June 18, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
Well first, you have to seperate the term “Islamist” from “Terrorist”.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:11 pmI know they sound similar at the end there, but so does republican and human, but we know those two have little to do with each other.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:12 pm#45: I didn’t say Muslim. I said islamist. You know, someone who wants to convert us infidels by force if necessary.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:14 pmUnbelievable. Just unbelievable.
Why? Which is the only country that has ever used nukes? Do you think WWII would have been lost by the allies if US hadnt used them? Come on.
What makes you think that the islamists won’t use the bomb as an offensive weapon?
Comment by GOPcurious
Too many movies for you I think. As crazy as terrorists or rogue states are, no one would attack US. No one. Ask North Korea. The thing is that the elephant is always scared of mice.
You really want an American city blown up by these lunatics?
June 18th, 2007 at 12:15 pmNo. But Karma will catch up. Just remember all the cities you have destroyed, all the civilians killed, all the torture you have implemented in other countries. Just remember.
You know, someone who wants to convert us infidels by force if necessary.
Comment by GOPcurious
You really dont know too much about Islam, do you?
June 18th, 2007 at 12:16 pm#45: I didn’t say Muslim. I said islamist.
Comment by GOPspurious — June 18, 2007 @ 12:14 pm
Uhhh, newsflash slappy. Neither did I.
I said islamist, hence the little rhyme thing.
I’d cut back on the Thunderbird this early in the morning. Tends to blur the vision, as do all good canned wines.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:16 pmYou know, someone who wants to convert us infidels by force if necessary.
Comment by GOPcurious — June 18, 2007 @ 12:14 pm
Gee…. wonder where they got that idea?
June 18th, 2007 at 12:18 pmGee…. wonder where they got that idea?
Comment by BARTLEBEE — June 18, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
Ann Coulter, I think.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:19 pm#52: Yeah. That’s a liberal for you. Always blaming the US.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:19 pmThe “democratization agenda” that in the past has been used as a pretext for intervention/occupation/colonization in the middle east and muslim world is a bunch of bullshit, as can be seen by the support of Musharaff. Perhaps Chaney and his authoritarian staff are propping-up this dictator hoping to establish residence there once the WAR CRIMINAl warrants are finally handed down for these MFs.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:20 pm#49: I know more than you liberals who see nothing wrong with it.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:20 pmGOPcurious:
I worked at a lab with 2 Pakistanis. They use a little corner at the back of the office as a praying place, 5 times a day. They wash their faces, their feet and start praying. They have never even suggested that I should do the same. Your vision about Islam is a little blurry.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:21 pm#48: There’s no karma. There’s no god. Good and bad are as we define them. We’re all alone in this mostly empty universe.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:21 pm#52: Yeah. That’s a liberal for you. Always blaming the US.
Comment by GOPcurious — June 18, 2007 @ 12:19 pm
I don’t follow that – I was #52.
Ann Coulter: “Invade their countries, kill their leaders, convert them to Christianity”
June 18th, 2007 at 12:22 pm#56: Maybe that was because they were working in your lab and didn’t want to get fired.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:22 pmAnn Coulter, I think.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — June 18, 2007 @ 12:19 pm
Perhaps.
But I’m leaning more towards the standing orders from the Holy Church at rome as issued by Papal Bulla, which stood for more than a thousand years.
The orders?
Convert the pagan muslims to Christianity or “off with their heads”.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:22 pmI know more than you liberals who see nothing wrong with it.
Comment by GOPcurious
You just said that Islamist wanted to use WMDs on the US. That means you know nothing.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:23 pmMaybe that was because they were working in your lab and didn’t want to get fired.
Comment by GOPcurious
They are doing their PhDs. It is a lab of a university. They even asked if they could have that little space for their ritual. These are guys like you and me. Instead of baseball they like cricket. But your government has made a wonderful hate-job for you.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:25 pm#48: There’s no karma. There’s no god. Good and bad are as we define them. We’re all alone in this mostly empty universe.
Comment by GOPcurious — June 18, 2007 @ 12:21 pm
Whoah, that’s radical from a GOPer. In Texas, the GOP has a word for you: “Firewood”
“”The Republican Party of Texas affirms the United States of America is a Christian Nation …” – Texas GOP platform.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:27 pmThere’s no karma. There’s no god. Good and bad are as we define them. We’re all alone in this mostly empty universe.
Comment by GOPcurious
Everything is paid in this life. Just ask any torturer if he can sleep well at night.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:27 pm#61: I know that if Musharraf is overrun (or voted out) by the islamists, various terror groups will be nuking our cities in no time. Want to risk that?
June 18th, 2007 at 12:27 pmConvert the pagan muslims to Christianity or “off with their headsâ€.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — June 18, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
Still in effect?
June 18th, 2007 at 12:27 pmThe Vice President is an enabler of terrorists. He won’t force Musharraf to get Bin Laden, and he pushed for a new outlet to train terrorists in Iraq. He helped create the bogeyman so he and George could over-reach for oil all over the Middle East. Big oil was co-conspirator, in concert with the military industrial complex. History will not be kind to these traitors.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:28 pm#62: Only serves as an example of how the islamic groups are infiltrating our universities.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:28 pmHistory will not be kind to these traitors.
Comment by Jo-Ann — June 18, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
Why wait?
June 18th, 2007 at 12:29 pmStill in effect?
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — June 18, 2007 @ 12:27 pm
Unfortunately for GOPspurious and his merry men, no. The suppression of heresy and the spread of Christianity took dramatic turns in the early 1800’s.
Be he can dream can’t he?
June 18th, 2007 at 12:30 pm#63: I believe in power and so does GOP. You’re silly if you buy into that religious crap. It’s just another vector in the grand strategy.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:30 pm#63: I believe in power and so does GOP. You’re silly if you buy into that religious crap. It’s just another vector in the grand strategy.
Comment by GOPcurious — June 18, 2007 @ 12:30 pm
Mr Vice President, how’d you like that picture of you at the top of this thread?
June 18th, 2007 at 12:32 pmI believe in power and so does GOP. You’re silly if you buy into that religious crap. It’s just another vector in the grand strategy.
Comment by GOPcurious — June 18, 2007 @ 12:30 pm
Hmmm, a definate variation from the currently advertised party stance.
Any chance you could “get the word out”?
:\
Should work wonders with your base.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:33 pmOnly serves as an example of how the islamic groups are infiltrating our universities.
Comment by GOPcurious
?????????????????????????????
June 18th, 2007 at 12:33 pmSorry, I thought I was debating. Not spewing stupidity. My bad.
In fact, I’d start with your largest demograph GOPher.
The Christian Coalition.
Let them know you don’t “buy into all that religious crap”, and we’ll see you in 08.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:34 pm:|
Does the GOP know you’re in here?
June 18th, 2007 at 12:37 pm#62: Only serves as an example of how the islamic groups are infiltrating our universities.
Comment by GOPcurious — June 18, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
Huh? I guess they applied like everyone’s kids did…. some see infiltration, others see matriculation….? Quick there’s one under your bed – oh no – it’s a dust bunny but maybe that Viet Cong guy is still there, hot bunking with the Sandinista.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:37 pm#75: As I said, it’s just another vector in the grand strategy. We throw them a few favors, but in general we just want them for their votes. Getting the word out? Who do you think they’re going to vote if they’re disappointed in us? Democrats? The Greens? No. They’re either going to stay at home or vote for us, and they won’t stay at home because the “darned libruls” are going to win.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:38 pmAs I said, it’s just another vector in the grand strategy. We throw them a few favors, but in general we just want them for their votes.
Comment by GOPspurious — June 18, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
Like I said slappy, keep talking that way and we’ll see you in 08.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:56 pm“Hil-dog, we have reason to believe that terrorrists have hid a snuke up your snizz…”
June 18th, 2007 at 12:58 pmBy the way GOPher. If the GOP isn’t paying you to be in here, talk to Judd.
I’m sure we can manage a modest salary.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:58 pmCaca Capers.
That has a nice ring to it, P1.
Is this in any way related to that guy from Virginia?
You know, the guy who claims Al Sharpton is his grandmother?
June 18th, 2007 at 1:05 pmWorfeus. Nice to read you back.
Comment by Juan C
Ah yes, now I can stop running that file in my brain. :)
June 18th, 2007 at 1:33 pm#81: So, how much are you getting paid? As far as I go, this is a hobby. Trying to make you liberals see the light.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:47 pm#81: So, how much are you getting paid? As far as I go, this is a hobby. Trying to make you liberals see the light.
Comment by GOPcurious
Right, you make the big money pedalling your A** to guys like Mark Foley.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:06 pm#85: You’ve got something against making money?
June 18th, 2007 at 2:41 pmPeter Principle, that’s Dick “deadeye” Cheney.
June 18th, 2007 at 3:50 pm#81: So, how much are you getting paid? As far as I go, this is a hobby. Trying to make you liberals see the light.
Comment by GOPspurious — June 18, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
I’m sorry, I know you’re a little slow. I did not say I was being paid.
I said that TP would be willing to pay you.
After all, you do a better job of making the GOP look ridiculous, than any of us ever could.
June 18th, 2007 at 4:06 pmGOPCurious -
O Golly! You really are on a campaign to certify yourself for some unpublished prize. Go dance in the corner until Uncle Deadeye Dick can pat you on your shiny little head.
Thanks for adding some entertainment value to an otherwise unpleasant discussion among thoughtful adults.
June 18th, 2007 at 4:08 pmPakistan will be 60 years old this August. During this time Pak has seen countless governments dismissed on charges of corruption, as well as a number of military dictators (Mucharraf is the 4th?). Immediately before Gen Musharraf in 1999, Pakistan under Nawaz Sharif was on the brink of ratifying the most conservative and non-secular constitutional ammendments and was close to enforcing full Sharia (islamic) Law. It was also consistently ranked as one of the most corrupt countries in the world (2nd only to nigeria at the time i believe). It was during this same year that Pak became openly nuclear and publicly tested some weapons to much fanfare and celebrating across the country. This was the face of democratic Pakistan b4 the general.
Some places are simply not ready for democracy. Pakistan may or may not be, but this is an issue for Pakistanis to fight for for themselves. Forcing democracy on a largely uneducated population with no discernable middle class may have potentially disastrous results. Have we not learned from Palestine? The US is now training personnel to fight the government that was fairly elected in elections that the US was pushing for in the first place there.
I would describe myself as very liberal, and I don’t like most of the policy cheney has been responsible for, but handling Pakistan and the general with caution will prove to be a wise move. We need to maintain a safe distance, and offering a few encouraging words to the general re his support for the war on terror does no great harm. Cheney has found himself in a difficult and un-enviable position and is wisely playing a cautious waiting game
June 18th, 2007 at 4:24 pm“handling Pakistan and the general with caution will prove to be a wise move” – you mean handle this dictator differently than the last dictator they overthrew? You mean overthrowing Hussein didn’t go so well?
It appears to me that they are simply using Musharraf for now. When it suits their purposes they will dispose of him.
June 18th, 2007 at 4:45 pm“The Bush administration “has put itself in the embarrassing position of propping up the Muslim world’s most powerful military dictator as an essential ally in its half-baked campaign to promote democracy throughout the Muslim world,” — NYT
MORE CRAP FROM NYT.
• Cheney’s Pipelinestan has been well known since before Bush took the country to war to establish it.
AND, it’s the subject of yet another of Bush’s OTHER signing statements, that is, his SECRET PRESIDENTIAL ORDERS, of which there are tens of thousands.
One of his secret orders bars any discussion of Pipelinestan. No discussion of the pipelines, the airbases and Blackwater teams who guard them, the massive bribes to Musharrif, or of the secret CIA prisons which hold and torture local leaders who refuse to go along with the scheme.
Dick Cheney’s crimes against humanity are a long list, but his Pipelinestan is the major purpose of the US invasion of Afghanistan — certainly not Al Qaeda, which Bushco allowed to escape.
Profit, profit, profit — screw Amerika — Dick Cheney at work.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:43 pmShaun S Ali
June 18th, 2007 at 8:41 pmWho is handling whom? I think support from the U.S. suits Musharrif very well. He remains a dictator,seems to be unable to stop terroorist training camps on his borders and is financed by Washington. I think , though,you guys should do something about Cheney pretty quickly because the U.S. is getting very involved in that part of the world – e.g. talks of a trilateral agreement with India, Australia and the U.S…
Given Cheney’s dismal diplomatic track record, we could have India and Pakistan waving nukes acoss their respective borders anytime soon.
I’ve only got one vote over here but I will be using it to get rid of John Howard if poss. Meantime a beefed up opposition in Oz is helping our situation. Surely Cheney is also answerable to public opinion!
To Low Retta at comment number 1.
To WHOM loretta. To WHOM.
Not to who.
Now you’s gots this OK?
June 18th, 2007 at 9:14 pmHmm, lets see two of the worlds least democratic countries, the US and Pakistan sign a deal to make sure a perpetual enemy, Al Qaeda, gets to keep training uneducated, gullible idiots to blow themselves up killing uneducated, gullible American idiots to divert world attention from BIG OIL THEFT and Piplineastan. Hmm, yep great idea Dick, now did I tell you how Barney shat on the Oval Office carpet the other day?
June 20th, 2007 at 8:18 amAnd really what if someone detonates a nuke in some US city? After all who developed nukes in the first place Chuck? What goes around comes around. Are you scared? Be scared very scared Chuck.
I met this idiot American on a plane flying to Germany who had seen his buddys head blown off in Afghanistan, a Marine he was, family friends of the Bushs he was, and asked “Do you reckon its worth it, your buddy dying like that?”
“Yep, he said, he was fighting for freedom and democracy.”
“Hmm brainwashed idiot ” I thought and then outlined that freedom and democracy cannot be introduced by corpses to corpses. He didn’t get it just ranted on about how Bush was doing “the right thing” We will here heaps more of that crap now that Bush is trying to manipulate his legacy. Maybe like the last great world dictator he might do us all a favour and step outside the bunker and blow his brains out. Murderers, whether they wear suits, uniforms or long robes and spout religious mantras are still MURDERERS. For the sake of some sort of spiritual, after life justice i truly hope there is a God and he hates mass murderers as much as I do. And di you hear the one about the Yanks wanting to nuke Afghanistan after 9/11. Stopped by Tony Blair apparently. So Tony isn’t such a pill after all. But that redneck, warmongering bunch of lunatics running America now certainly are. America! Reclaim your democracy, send Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and all the others to the Hague and hang them from the same Gallows they hung Saddam from, then we will have justice on earth again and the blood of all those innoicente they have murdfered will be avenged. God bless America, because you really f#*+en need it!.