Comments on: Failing Pakistan Policy ‘Essentially Being Run From Cheney’s Office’

By: Tell a ban

Tell a ban — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:18:18 +0000

Hmm, lets see two of the worlds least democratic countries, the US and Pakistan sign a deal to make sure a perpetual enemy, Al Qaeda, gets to keep training uneducated, gullible idiots to blow themselves up killing uneducated, gullible American idiots to divert world attention from BIG OIL THEFT and Piplineastan. Hmm, yep great idea Dick, now did I tell you how Barney shat on the Oval Office carpet the other day?
And really what if someone detonates a nuke in some US city? After all who developed nukes in the first place Chuck? What goes around comes around. Are you scared? Be scared very scared Chuck.
I met this idiot American on a plane flying to Germany who had seen his buddys head blown off in Afghanistan, a Marine he was, family friends of the Bushs he was, and asked “Do you reckon its worth it, your buddy dying like that?”
“Yep, he said, he was fighting for freedom and democracy.”
“Hmm brainwashed idiot ” I thought and then outlined that freedom and democracy cannot be introduced by corpses to corpses. He didn’t get it just ranted on about how Bush was doing “the right thing” We will here heaps more of that crap now that Bush is trying to manipulate his legacy. Maybe like the last great world dictator he might do us all a favour and step outside the bunker and blow his brains out. Murderers, whether they wear suits, uniforms or long robes and spout religious mantras are still MURDERERS. For the sake of some sort of spiritual, after life justice i truly hope there is a God and he hates mass murderers as much as I do. And di you hear the one about the Yanks wanting to nuke Afghanistan after 9/11. Stopped by Tony Blair apparently. So Tony isn’t such a pill after all. But that redneck, warmongering bunch of lunatics running America now certainly are. America! Reclaim your democracy, send Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and all the others to the Hague and hang them from the same Gallows they hung Saddam from, then we will have justice on earth again and the blood of all those innoicente they have murdfered will be avenged. God bless America, because you really f#*+en need it!.

By: Cyphre

Cyphre — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:14:13 +0000

To Low Retta at comment number 1.

To WHOM loretta. To WHOM.

Not to who.

Now you’s gots this OK?

By: sydney sue 1

sydney sue 1 — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:41:47 +0000

Shaun S Ali
Who is handling whom? I think support from the U.S. suits Musharrif very well. He remains a dictator,seems to be unable to stop terroorist training camps on his borders and is financed by Washington. I think , though,you guys should do something about Cheney pretty quickly because the U.S. is getting very involved in that part of the world – e.g. talks of a trilateral agreement with India, Australia and the U.S…
Given Cheney’s dismal diplomatic track record, we could have India and Pakistan waving nukes acoss their respective borders anytime soon.
I’ve only got one vote over here but I will be using it to get rid of John Howard if poss. Meantime a beefed up opposition in Oz is helping our situation. Surely Cheney is also answerable to public opinion!

By: Paul in LA

Paul in LA — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:43:16 +0000

“The Bush administration â€œhas put itself in the embarrassing position of propping up the Muslim worldâ€™s most powerful military dictator as an essential ally in its half-baked campaign to promote democracy throughout the Muslim world,” — NYT

MORE CRAP FROM NYT.

â€¢ Cheney’s Pipelinestan has been well known since before Bush took the country to war to establish it.

AND, it’s the subject of yet another of Bush’s OTHER signing statements, that is, his SECRET PRESIDENTIAL ORDERS, of which there are tens of thousands.

One of his secret orders bars any discussion of Pipelinestan. No discussion of the pipelines, the airbases and Blackwater teams who guard them, the massive bribes to Musharrif, or of the secret CIA prisons which hold and torture local leaders who refuse to go along with the scheme.

Dick Cheney’s crimes against humanity are a long list, but his Pipelinestan is the major purpose of the US invasion of Afghanistan — certainly not Al Qaeda, which Bushco allowed to escape.

Profit, profit, profit — screw Amerika — Dick Cheney at work.

By: margaret

margaret — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:45:41 +0000

“handling Pakistan and the general with caution will prove to be a wise move” – you mean handle this dictator differently than the last dictator they overthrew? You mean overthrowing Hussein didn’t go so well?

It appears to me that they are simply using Musharraf for now. When it suits their purposes they will dispose of him.

By: Shaun S Ali

Shaun S Ali — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:24:34 +0000

Pakistan will be 60 years old this August. During this time Pak has seen countless governments dismissed on charges of corruption, as well as a number of military dictators (Mucharraf is the 4th?). Immediately before Gen Musharraf in 1999, Pakistan under Nawaz Sharif was on the brink of ratifying the most conservative and non-secular constitutional ammendments and was close to enforcing full Sharia (islamic) Law. It was also consistently ranked as one of the most corrupt countries in the world (2nd only to nigeria at the time i believe). It was during this same year that Pak became openly nuclear and publicly tested some weapons to much fanfare and celebrating across the country. This was the face of democratic Pakistan b4 the general.

Some places are simply not ready for democracy. Pakistan may or may not be, but this is an issue for Pakistanis to fight for for themselves. Forcing democracy on a largely uneducated population with no discernable middle class may have potentially disastrous results. Have we not learned from Palestine? The US is now training personnel to fight the government that was fairly elected in elections that the US was pushing for in the first place there.

I would describe myself as very liberal, and I don’t like most of the policy cheney has been responsible for, but handling Pakistan and the general with caution will prove to be a wise move. We need to maintain a safe distance, and offering a few encouraging words to the general re his support for the war on terror does no great harm. Cheney has found himself in a difficult and un-enviable position and is wisely playing a cautious waiting game

By: Lysander

Lysander — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:08:50 +0000

GOPCurious -
O Golly! You really are on a campaign to certify yourself for some unpublished prize. Go dance in the corner until Uncle Deadeye Dick can pat you on your shiny little head.

Thanks for adding some entertainment value to an otherwise unpleasant discussion among thoughtful adults.

By: BARTLEBEE

BARTLEBEE — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:06:26 +0000

#81: So, how much are you getting paid? As far as I go, this is a hobby. Trying to make you liberals see the light.

Comment by GOPspurious â€” June 18, 2007 @ 1:47 pm

I’m sorry, I know you’re a little slow. I did not say I was being paid.

I said that TP would be willing to pay you.

After all, you do a better job of making the GOP look ridiculous, than any of us ever could.

By: Coffins draped with flags

Coffins draped with flags — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:50:37 +0000

Peter Principle, that’s Dick “deadeye” Cheney.

By: GOPcurious

GOPcurious — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:41:05 +0000

#85: You’ve got something against making money?

By: The Republic of Stupidity

The Republic of Stupidity — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:06:02 +0000

#81: So, how much are you getting paid? As far as I go, this is a hobby. Trying to make you liberals see the light.

Comment by GOPcurious

Right, you make the big money pedalling your A** to guys like Mark Foley.

By: GOPcurious

GOPcurious — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:47:31 +0000

#81: So, how much are you getting paid? As far as I go, this is a hobby. Trying to make you liberals see the light.

By: Zooey

Zooey — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:33:34 +0000

Worfeus. Nice to read you back.
Comment by Juan C

Ah yes, now I can stop running that file in my brain. :)

By: Zimzone

Zimzone — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:05:22 +0000

Caca Capers.

That has a nice ring to it, P1.
Is this in any way related to that guy from Virginia?

You know, the guy who claims Al Sharpton is his grandmother?

By: BARTLEBEE

BARTLEBEE — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:58:32 +0000

By the way GOPher. If the GOP isn’t paying you to be in here, talk to Judd.

I’m sure we can manage a modest salary.

By: whiteyfresh

whiteyfresh — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:58:21 +0000

“Hil-dog, we have reason to believe that terrorrists have hid a snuke up your snizz…”

By: BARTLEBEE

BARTLEBEE — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:56:36 +0000

As I said, itâ€™s just another vector in the grand strategy. We throw them a few favors, but in general we just want them for their votes.

Comment by GOPspurious â€” June 18, 2007 @ 12:38 pm

Like I said slappy, keep talking that way and we’ll see you in 08.

By: GOPcurious

GOPcurious — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:38:10 +0000

#75: As I said, it’s just another vector in the grand strategy. We throw them a few favors, but in general we just want them for their votes. Getting the word out? Who do you think they’re going to vote if they’re disappointed in us? Democrats? The Greens? No. They’re either going to stay at home or vote for us, and they won’t stay at home because the “darned libruls” are going to win.

By: TerrytheTurtle

TerrytheTurtle — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:37:54 +0000

#62: Only serves as an example of how the islamic groups are infiltrating our universities.

Comment by GOPcurious â€” June 18, 2007 @ 12:28 pm

Huh? I guess they applied like everyone’s kids did…. some see infiltration, others see matriculation….? Quick there’s one under your bed – oh no – it’s a dust bunny but maybe that Viet Cong guy is still there, hot bunking with the Sandinista.

By: BARTLEBEE

BARTLEBEE — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:37:14 +0000

Does the GOP know you’re in here?