“Certainly not. Obviously, I’m not a fan.â€
“Certainly not. Obviously, I’m not a fan.â€
– Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS), on whether Karl Rove “still holds the same stature among Republicans that he once enjoyed.” Others are much more positive:
“I personally don’t know anyone who is as smart or more skillful when it comes to politics,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), a personal friend of Rove.
“There’s no one in the current aspect of politics who has a better read on the country than Karl Rove,” said Rep. Tom Reynolds (N.Y.), the former National Republican Congressional Committee chairman. “Not only does he know exactly what’s going on politically by regions of the country, he knows the people back in the states on a first name basis. Considering his orbit to the president, that’s pretty solid juice.”
Rove “now visits the Hill less often than he did earlier in Bush’s presidency,” Roll Call reports.
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June 19th, 2007 at 10:51 amWe hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power. He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our People, and eat out their substance. He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended legislation. He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of the Head of a civilized nation. For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments. He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us. In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free People. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends. We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by the Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance. The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:52 amKarl Rove is a plump tubby fascist, but without him Bush has no brain.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:52 amKarl who….?
June 19th, 2007 at 10:56 amwhat’s up with *’s posts? weird…
zup POPStar(tm)???
Jeebus…
i IS tired…
June 19th, 2007 at 10:58 amTrent who… ?
June 19th, 2007 at 10:59 amKarl Rove? He sure knows how to win an election. Too bad he doesn’t know a frickin’ thing about governing. All politics, no policy: that’s today’s GOP.
June 19th, 2007 at 11:00 am““There’s no one in the current aspect of politics who has a better read on the country than Karl Rove,†said Rep. Tom Reynolds”
i’m also a big fan of karl’s “math” from last november.
June 19th, 2007 at 11:01 amYep. Rove’s brilliant work has reduced the Republican Party from majority in the senate, congress and statehouses to minorities. Has taken Bush from 90% approval to 28% approval.
Go Rove!
-GSD
June 19th, 2007 at 11:02 am“…as smart or more skillful when it comes to politics,â€
“….no one in the current aspect of politics who has a better read on the country than Karl Rove…”
” …exactly what’s going on politically by regions of the country…”
So, is politics the main issue of the Presidency nowadays?
June 19th, 2007 at 11:02 amTo manipulate, distort, lie, coverup and promote the art of bullsh!t to academic excellence?
I know I posted this in the last thread, but this thread is more relevant:
It appears as if the White House email scandal is picking up steam – or at least being mentioned by the main stream media. The stories are sometimes buried, but in this day and age, in order for a story to get top spot, some interest needs to be generated. I’ve linked to quite a few of the stories below…click on them, link to them, email them. Let’s generate some interest.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/18/white.house.emails/index.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19299304/
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/19/washington/19email.html?_r=1&ref=washington&oref=slogin
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/18/AR2007061800809.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-emails_19jun19,1,4004882.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070619/ap_on_go_pr_wh/white_house_e_mails;_ylt=At_fqZ8XvyzyHj9SPEx0xONp24cA
June 19th, 2007 at 11:02 am“Considering his orbit to the president, that’s pretty solid juice.â€
What in the hell is “pretty solid juice”? Is that something they say up there in NY?
June 19th, 2007 at 11:03 amfrozen Gannon pops, kelso…
June 19th, 2007 at 11:04 amRove and his cronies were smart enough to fix two Presidential elections, not to mention selling a war of imperialist aggression and eroding civil rights to a level only seen before in dystopian fiction. I think dismissing him at this stage of the game is premature.
June 19th, 2007 at 11:05 amLOL Everyone knows that Trent Lott will give the straight up facts.
June 19th, 2007 at 11:06 amI’m sure as soon as he made that statement,he left to go and blow KKKarl a fresh load.
He might be smart, connected, and politically savvy – but he’s still a traitor.
June 19th, 2007 at 11:06 amComment by whiteyfresh — June 19, 2007 @ 10:58 am
Hey whitey, what’s up? Why do tired? The sun is shining in Portland. :)
June 19th, 2007 at 11:07 amWatt: “They have Concept and Doctrine Centre. While we’re all sitting here—and humming along the songs are churned out (if you understand them these days), and soaking up the movies that give us predictive programming, to escape a little bit of misery in our lives, or whatever it is we do to get relief—these characters have these think tanks, and they go 24 hours a day, in shifts, working in shifts. Unlimited financing for the computers and staff, because we pay for it all through taxes, to dream up things they’re going to do to us. The Concepts and Doctrine Centre: “…which drew up the report, describes the assessments as “probability-based, rather than predictive”. Isn’t that interesting—probability-based, rather than predictive. That means that it’s one major scenario set-up that they have thought might happen, because they know what they’re going to do to the public, to make things happen. This is one little tunnel, you might say, that comes off this, a response type thing. However, there will be other ones, like Plan A, B, C & D and so on. You can never be too careful when you’re a megalomaniac and psychopathic, or a whole bunch of them.” mp3
June 19th, 2007 at 11:07 am“There’s no one in the current aspect of politics who has a better read on the country than Karl Rove.â€
there’s also no one better at using half-truths, smears and outright lies to get people elected…
June 19th, 2007 at 11:11 amTrent would change his mind, if he was running for president
June 19th, 2007 at 11:11 amKKKarl is an overblown, bloviating, scourge on the Republican Party. He’s a second-rate pimp and more devious than Hitler, Stalin, and Satan combined. If that’s something to be proud of, then consider the source: anyone who believes that KKKarl is clever, intelligent, and sane is dabbling in serious self-delusion or looking at a version of themselves in the mirror! The mirror is up in the faces of all Rethugs right now. If they find KKKarl’s antics enlightening, then consider these thugs to be among the worst who need to be immediately removed from office.
It’s time for any Republican with a sense of morality and conscience to back away from this tainted Bush Team. It’s clear that they are on a rapidly disintegrating side and Team Bush’s reign of terror is drawing to a halt.
June 19th, 2007 at 11:16 amThese versions of satan within our midst will “out themselves” easily for the people to see what they’re made of.
Case in point: Trent Lott – From observing him in action, we already know from whom he receives his dark energy – satan himself! Trent Lott is a scourge on the Congress. Eliminate him when his term is up. He’s the classic and quintessential “wolf in sheep’s clothing” – a charlatan and a demon.
June 19th, 2007 at 11:18 amIsn’t it fascinating how altruistic americans can be? When Chavez smelled sulphur on the podium and connected it to the Chimp, people scoffed at him – yet, as it’s turning out, he was absolutely correcto mundo! I see that his nation is soaring right now. People may not like his brand of socialism but at least he’s up front about it. What’s far more insidious and necrotic is the lying in the face while doing evil deeds behind the backs of the people. That’s far more fraudulent when all is said and done.
June 19th, 2007 at 11:20 amAnd, of course, then the “covering up” which is the phase which nets them ultimate impeachment and/or prison time. Let the indictments roll!
June 19th, 2007 at 11:21 amhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com
June 19th, 2007 at 11:23 amGo there and check out what Bloomberg is saying about Rove’s “genius” and how this country is tanking itself….it’s eye-opening.
Smart & skillful = cunning and ruthless. Why has politics turned into open warfare, with only the nation as the loser?
June 19th, 2007 at 11:23 amWhat in the hell is “pretty solid juice� Is that something they say up there in NY?
Comment by kelso — June 19, 2007 @ 11:03 am
frozen Gannon pops, kelso…
Comment by whiteyfresh
That’s what popped into my mind whiteyfresh. Good thing I have an empty stomach.
June 19th, 2007 at 11:25 amthanks for that link, veritas…
i get the feeling that bloomberg was smart enough
to shape his message for the audience…
hope he is always as sincere and honest…
June 19th, 2007 at 11:36 am.
How are the Republicans going to win an election without cheating.
The DOJ investigation will soon turn to voter suppression.
Everybody will be watching.
Wait till the Dems bring forth the facts the votes in Ohio were rerouted to Republican servers as TPM has reported.
The Re-thugs have no idea where this is all going.
I believe we are watching the end of the Republican party.
June 19th, 2007 at 12:01 pmHow are the Republicans going to win an election without cheating.
Comment by Langx
I will repost something I posted in another thread.
The problem is not just election fraud by Repukes:
50% of the American voters ( that actually vote) are total idiots.
June 19th, 2007 at 12:20 pmPart of the problem also is that too many do not vote.
Even 2004, only 60 percent of eligible voters actually voted.
So bush was re-elected by about 31% of eligible voters, because too many could not get away from the TV long enough to cast their vote.
No wonder we keep electing such stupid a$$hats into office.
R.I.P. GOP.
Well done, Karl.
June 19th, 2007 at 1:37 pmWell done, Karl.
Comment by Perry Logan
HAHAHA! First image that came to my mind after reading this was:
“That’ll do, pig, that’ll do.”
{snicker}
June 19th, 2007 at 2:14 pmKarl Rove is no genius, but he is a master mudslinger. He knows the dirtiest of tricks, the loopholes, and he has the brazen disrespect for lawfulness in campaigning. That talent has since been modified to provide Bush with how to be president..to turn everything into sleazy campaign style governing. If it weren’t so, Bush would not make EVERY appearence a carefully orchestrated photo op or plug for shameless partisan topics and RNC talking points. In this aspect, Bush is 100% puppet under Rove’s “jedi mind control.”
Karl Rove is only appearing to be a genius because probably half of the shit he’s done has not been discovered yet. The other half is shit he’s skillfully dodged around or redirected. Case in question “..anyone found to have participated in the outting of Valery Plame would not be working here anymore..” – Bush (paraphrased).
June 19th, 2007 at 5:19 pmLott may be a troglodytic panderer to racists, but ever since the White House pushed him out of the Majority Leader position, he’s been very much his own man – one who doesn’t let party discipline stop him from speaking his mind.
You gotta respect that. It’s rare among Republicans.
June 20th, 2007 at 12:16 pmKarl Rove was so brilliant that he thought it would be a good idea to use war and security as partisan wedge issues, even as the government was gearing up for a full-scale war overseas. Remember when Sun Tzu wrote, “Sow dissent behind your own lines?” Yeah, me neither.
Boy oh boy, once the Iraq War was a brilliant success, weren’t the Democrats and the UN and the French and the liberals going to look like a bunch of idiots!
June 20th, 2007 at 12:20 pm