Crump’s Brother,
The Muslim media is making people think the economy is bad.
I just recently got a new job making 20& more than what I did before.
Real bad economy!
Once again the public is slower to wake up than I was, I saw this in Feb. 2000. right after this bunch of screw up’s took office…Yep! in 2000 Washington State went from lot’s of easy to get job’s and a good econemy to few job’s and only big business was prospering…It was in an instant like slamming a door..Blessings
Crump’s Brother,
The Muslim media is making people think the economy is bad.
I just recently got a new job making 20& more than what I did before.
Real bad economy!
Comment by The Joker
Another retard who thinks “the economy” is all about his own salary. Like the retards who say “Global warming is bunk. It was cooler today than yesterday at my house!”
Listen people of the world are united against buying America products
We dont buy your goods anymore
I have been teaching my children NOT to buy American products
remember this
BERLIN – No more Coca-Cola or Budweiser, no Marlboro, no American whiskey or even American Express cards — a growing number of restaurants in Germany are taking everything American off their menus to protest the war in Iraq.
Here comes the anti-Bush, anti-Republic Party freight train. Too bad it’s also the major recession/depression freight train. If you have large debt (Bush borrowed $1 Trillion from the Chinese), you should pay it off now.
Gee, do Americans for the last six years feel that the national economy has been getting worse? That seems to coincide with the six years of the Bush crime family’s attempt to destroy America: shipping our good tech jobs to India, shipping our manufacturing jobs to Mexico and China, cutting taxes for the absurdly rich, running stupid wars of imperial aggression in the Middle East and trying to destroy our Bill of Rights and our Constitution. What an amazing parlay from stealing the 2000 Presidential Election and letting 19 middle eastern terrorists attack us on nine-eleven. Imagine a rich and powerful country of some third hundred million educated and intelligent people being buffaloed by few hundred or a few thousand anti-American terraists…
It’s time for us to stand tall for an independent Voters’ Internet Party (VIP) and chuck out all of the Bush crime family creeps, and their GOP enablers and the go along corporate Democrats.
Zamzam — which previously exported only to Iraq and Afghanistan — is benefiting from a grass-roots campaign by Arabs and Muslims to boycott American goods
Crump’s Brother,
The Muslim media is making people think the economy is bad.
I just recently got a new job making 20& more than what I did before.
Real bad economy!
Comment by The Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 5:28 pm
But have you seen the raise Cheney gave Halliburton?
By the way, welcome to the world of 5-digit incomes.
Just like religon, you can “believe” whatever you want to believe. The Markets are booming right now with nothing outside of tax increases to slow it down. The left has done a good job selling the idea of a bad economy, but the economic indicators and statistics don’t lie. And just like religon, your “beliefs” are usually wrong.
“Just like religon, you can “believe†whatever you want to believe. The Markets are booming right now with nothing outside of tax increases to slow it down. The left has done a good job selling the idea of a bad economy, but the economic indicators and statistics don’t lie. And just like religon, your “beliefs†are usually wrong.
Comment by Roger_Roger — June 19, 2007 @ 5:43 pm”
PLLLLEEEEEAAAASSSSSEEEE!!!!!!!
This is the worst economy I can remember since I have entered the work force in the early 80’s…..
Oh…. And those INDICATORS….. They can be manipulated…..
Sorry, but I actaually have LESS money now then I did 7 years ago…. My lifestyle remains basically the same…. Yet now I cannot travel like I used to, and I find myself being unable to spend money like I was able to.
This is the WORST economy!!!! I LONG for the days that Clinton was president…..
“The left has done a good job selling the idea of a bad economy, but the economic indicators and statistics don’t lie.
Comment by Roger_Roger — June 19, 2007″
i knew the guy at the supermarket overcharged for milk, bread, and pretty much everything i bought! and the guy at the gas station did the same thing! p.s.–yesterday the housing numbers lied.
Of course it is getting worse, when you have rampant greed in charge everyone ends of losing sooner or later….(later being the riots that are gonna happen when gas and food run out)
I guess your right. We do have like 4% of the population out of work and jsut because the market is at an all time high really doesn’t mean that much…………
The Dow Jones in not a good indicator of overall economic well being. So few americans actually own stock.
REall Wages have gone down since the beginning of the Conservative War on the middle class.
Warren Buffet himself said that there was indeed a class war, and his calss was winning. Democracy cannot exist in its best form without a vibrant middle class, and we are losing ours.
But I’m sure you don’t see it that way.
Health Care costs, skyrocketing. Education costs, skyrocketing. Good Paying Jobs, leaving. Prescription Drug Costs, astronomical. Pensions, gone.
Energy costs, through the roof. Unions, being beat down by corporatists, and REAL wages are stagnant.
Just like religon, you can “believe†whatever you want to believe. The Markets are booming right now with nothing outside of tax increases to slow it down. The left has done a good job selling the idea of a bad economy, but the economic indicators and statistics don’t lie. And just like religon, your “beliefs†are usually wrong.
Comment by Roger_Roger — June 19, 2007 @ 5:43 pm
Keep on drinking that Kool aid, Roger_Roger. The economy hasn’t tanked due to the unbridaled use of credit – both privately and governmentally (with huge increases in debt under the BA). Globalization doesn’t allow a middle class like that seen in America, and we are fully vested the Global Economy. Your job, whatever it may be, will be done for less than half of what you earn, by a former communist or Third World worker.
“The Markets” (I love how you say that – like you belong!) are not patriotic institutions. They are Capitalists (International Capitalists, to be more precise), and true Capitalism holds no place for sentimental patriotic mumbo-jumbo. They’ll go where the money is without a second thought for you, your Constitution, or your flag. Wake up and start behaving like a true conservative.
For this president, for the last 6+ years, the monthly average has been only 56,000 new jobs. The BLS says that we need something like 160,000 new jobs every month to keep up with the new workers trying to enter the workforce. That’s why the majority of us think this is a bad economy. Every month, another 100,000 cannot find a job.
In the 10+ years the Bushes have been inflicted on Americans, they could count less than 8 million new jobs.
In only 4 years, Carter could count over 10 million new jobs.
In only 8 years, Clinton could count over 22 million new jobs.
In the 18+ years of 2 Bushes and Super-Ron, they could count only 24 million new jobs.
In only 12 years, Clinton and Carter counld count over 32 million new jobs.
“I guess your right. We do have like 4% of the population out of work and jsut because the market is at an all time high really doesn’t mean that much…………
Comment by Roger_Roger — June 19, 2007 @ 5:52 pm”
You do realize that those STATISTICS on UNEMPLOYMENT ONLY COUNT those that are making claims?????
IT DOES NOT COUNT THOSE THAT THE CLAIMS RAN OUT FOR AND HAVE NOT FOUND JOBS…….
There are MORE people out of work now than have been in over 10 years…..
Just because the Unemployment is low DOES NOT MEAN that there are not more people UNEMPLOYED!
“Just like religon, you can “believe†whatever you want to believe. The Markets are booming right now with nothing outside of tax increases to slow it down. The left has done a good job selling the idea of a bad economy, but the economic indicators and statistics don’t lie. And just like religon, your “beliefs†are usually wrong.
Comment by Roger_Roger — June 19, 2007 @ 5:43 pm”
Every Americans knows whether he or she is better off economically under republican leadership. Seventy percent of Americans looked at their own financial situation and determined that the republicans’ economic policy is not working for them.
“I hope we shall crush in its birth, the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of country” – Thomas Jefferson
“I have the Confederacy before me, and the bankers behind me, and for my country I fear the bankers most.” – Abraham Lincoln
“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.” – Dwight Eisenhower
WHAT?!?!?!? Record deficit spending and debt incursion by the party of fiscal responsibility (The Repubs) there has been no balanced budget under this administration.
I know, if you say it loud enough however you wont have to listen to the facts. You are a true moron!!
So basically the trolls can’t say anything, so they either throw snit fits ala the aptly named joker, or they point out that the wealthiest 1% of America is doing great. Interesting set of priorities there guys.
800 percent. Increase in the number of internally displaced people in Iraq from one year ago, a “human tragedy unprecedented in Iraq’s history,†according to the Iraqi Red Crescent. June 18, 2007 2:00 pm
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70 percent:Number of Americans who believe that the economy is getting worse, according to a new Gallup poll, “the most negative reading in nearly six years.â€
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stupid
TP, in a situation like this I recommend the following:
Think of the heading like an answer and question as would appear on Jeopardy.
Answer: 800%
Question: What was the increase in the number of etc…
This works. It is good.
But let’s try the heading of this thread:
Answer: 70%
Question: What is the number of Americans who believe etc….
I make less money today than I made while President, and I have a better living today.
yeah, the economy sucks.
Only my idiotic, left wing moonbats would stand by this ridiculous polls.
The economy sucks so bad that under Bush we have the most small businesses ever to have started in American history, more people own cars today than ever in American history, more people own homes than ever in American history.
also, more minorities today own homes and cars than ever in the american history.
the economy is all about perception and when you have the media and the Liberals day in and out telling you it sucks, well then it must suck right because we lying liberals never lie, right?
Sorry, all the economic indicators show that our economy is booming and roaring foward.
but how can we give credit to Bush on this, we can’t, Bush has never done anything right, we Liberals can’t say anything good about Bush, we must destroy him at all cause no matter the cost and who stands on our way.
Bush sucks and we must bring him down and destroy any legacy he might be trying to create.
PAY ATTENTION TO ME! No one pays attention to me in real life so I come on here and pretend to be the most popular president ever (even though she hasn’t been elected yet) so that people will like me and think I’m pretty. I don’t even have to say anything clever (which is good, because I’m not very bright) and people will respond to me. I love it.
If you don’t PAY ATTENTION TO ME I will go Chinese Embassy in Serbia on you. Guaranteed.
I don’t appropiate the name of a Democratic god, I am this god, silly little smafdy.
Yes, I am the second……………………wait, second….who the f@k are you to claim I am the second greatest President……………I am the first, the only, the one greatest President to ever set foot on the Oval Office rug. FDR only wishes he could be the god that I was.
I mean under me, the largest tax increase in the middle class was passed, under me the WTC was first attacked and the terrorist tried to bring it down, under me two American embassies were blown to pieces by Al Qaeda, under me Bin Laden declared war on the USA and called the USA a paper tiger, under me Bin Laden planned 9/11, under me the USS Cole was attacked, under me in 2000 a recession began, under me education got worst, under me I made a mockery of the office of the PResident, under me I lied, committed perjury and asked Monica to lie for me while she was under oath.
Yes, me, the greatest President, the god of the Democratic party.
yes smafdy, I love easilly fooled, easily manipulated, tools like you. Look how you go around claiming that I was the second greatest President ever. My communication staff revised history and you, like a poor useful tool believe it.
I love ignorant, poorly educated Democratic voters like you. Please don’t ever get an education or you will stop voting Democratic.
…Sorry, all the economic indicators show that our economy is booming and roaring foward…
Comment by President Clinton — June 19, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
All economic indicators do NOT show that our economy is “roaring forward”.
We are living high-on-the-hog, on borrowed money.
Don’t worry kids, me and your mom both lost our jobs to outsourcing, but we still have plenty of credit cards. What’s in your wallet? (I’m betting it’s not cash).
I have rentals, I have first hand knowledge that indeed the economy is not getting better. I have not raised rents for 6 years because these poor folks are struggling just to eat, much less have excess of anything. One could not pay his rent because his meds cost so much, I let him do some work for me so he could buy his meds.
Yes, my wife and I are doing well, but on 9/11 my income fell 25%, I can just imagine how bad it is for some people.
get an education fool and then you won’t lose your job, silly uneducated Democratic voter who believes I am a god. By the way, thank you for the complement, but remember, I AM THE FIRST PRESIDENT! not the second or third, or fourth…..I am first.
now go educate yourself in a job that won’t be out sourced.
yes, silly little boy, my useful tool smafdy, all economic indicators show that our economy is roaring an dmoving foward. Yes because you say it is not happening, it doesn’t make it so.
PAY ATTENTION TO ME! No one pays attention to me in any more, so I came back from the dead to show everone here that I am still the best emperor ever (even though the US doesn’t have an emperor yet (or do we (we do!!!!!!!!!!))) so that people will like me and think I’m the shit, bitch. I don’t even have to say anything clever (which is good, because I like to use violence) and people will respond to me. I love it.
If you don’t PAY ATTENTION TO ME I will go Actium on Iran. Guaranteed.
“I guess your right. We do have like 4% of the population out of work and jsut because the market is at an all time high really doesn’t mean that much…………
Comment by Roger_Roger — June 19, 2007 @ 5:52 pm”
This 96% employment rate include people working part time; people working multiple jobs; people working from paycheck to paycheck; people working who have no benefits whatsoever; people working with little benefits; people working at Wal-Mart (America’s largest private sector employer), McDonalds, Burger king etc. And the unemployment numbers don’t include people who have been out of work for more than six months. These people might have a different outlook on their economic situation than you.
Now you’ve done it – you’ve gone and introduced facts into the conversation. Just because of you, the trolls will fade away.
Thanks.
Comment by smafdy — June 19, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
Sadly nothing stops idiots like Roger_Roger (and twice as stupid) to go away.
Some day they’ll wake up from the lies the media tells them (you know how a good stock market is a sign of a strong economy). And 4% unemployment (which doesn’t include those no longer eligible, or forced to work for less money). I have several friends working two jobs because cost of living increases have not kept up. And to maintain their lifestyle. (Like not going into foreclosure) they are forced to take two jobs.
It’s really simple, but Roger’s even too stupid to understand. you can’t have a good economy with so much debt. Personal, or governmental. And we have both.
I was looking at the number posted above for jobs created and decided to look at how many are enrolled in school that will eventually need jobs. Since there are 12 grades I divided the 50 million by 12 for an average graduation amount. We need to create about 4.1 million new jobs a year. Over Dubyas term he would need to create some 32 million jobs to keep up with enrolled students. 160,000 (1.9 million a year) jobs a month seems inadequate.
Comment by Photon Entanglement — June 19, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
I think your assumption that every high school graduate needs a job inflates the workforce growth figure somewhat.
But, even with a sharp discount (to account for those who do not need jobs), your figure of 341,000 new jobseekers per month still makes the president’s performance of 56,000 new jobs seem all the more inadequate, doesn’t it?
Crump’s Brother,
The Muslim media is making people think the economy is bad.
I just recently got a new job making 20& more than what I did before.
Real bad economy!
Comment by The Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 5:28 pm
What did you do before? And now? Twice nothing is still nothing. Muslim media? Wow that’s wild! Wanna back it up? Those mUslims are some badass mothers. Shit why we were busy fighting them over there, they took over our media.
Once we get these LYING a$$hole sh!tph*cks out of office you will see the numbers are much worst than ever reported. Why should this be different from all the rest of thier bu!!sh!t!!
Then you will see the dollar crash and the economy crumbling to it’s knees. I wish this what not the case, but, GW Botch has ph*cked us all!!!
Buck Fush,
If you’re making that much momney, why you bitching?
As you guys know I don’t support Bush and view him as a Muslim agent.
However he is responsible for Hi-Tech jobs going to India.
He should’ve tax companies for the amount every job going to India.
All I know is economically I’m doing good.
As for the dhakey economy.
It’’s called globalization.
The Muslim masters are doing this on purpose so they can take over America.
dbadass,
I’m against the Iraq war.
So no argument here.
I’m making $63,000 dollars a year thank you.
The fact is I know how to survive.
You’re a weak brainwashed Dhimmi who does whatever your Muslims masters do!
Open your Eyes!
dbadass,
I’m against the Iraq war.
So no argument here.
I’m making $63,000 dollars a year thank you.
The fact is I know how to survive.
You’re a weak brainwashed Dhimmi who does whatever your Muslims masters do!
Open your Eyes!
Comment by Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 8:24 pm
By which oracle do this false impressions of me being arise? You did not answer my questions but instead attempted to insult. Should I value your ideas?
You’re stupid over here on this thread too…How do you ever find time to spread so much stupidty on more than one thread? Do your other personalities help out??
Why do 70% of Americans hate the economy? I say just give em some more credit cards so that they shut up and spend, otherwise the terrorists win. With us or against us. To spend is freedom.
#50 “I have not raised rents for 6 years because these poor folks are struggling just to eat, much less have excess of anything. One could not pay his rent because his meds cost so much, I let him do some work for me so he could buy his meds.
Yes, my wife and I are doing well, but on 9/11 my income fell 25%, I can just imagine how bad it is for some people” Buck Fush
#33: “Ha losres.
I make 63,000 a year!” The Joker
#68: “Buck Fush,
If you’re making that much momney, why you bitching?” The Joker
Pretty much sums up the difference between Liberals and NeoCons. The U.S. needs a hell of a lot more people like you Buck Fush.
That report is a bunch of hooey. We have the LOWEST unemployement rate in a long time.
Of course we can always get the ILLEGALs out of the country, that would open quite a few jobs for Americans.
Oh? Hmmm… Not enough jobs, but we have millions of illegal people here working, but we cant send them off, because they are doing jobs that americans dont want to do? Something in that logic escapes me..
Last but not least, the reason foreclosures are up, is that there are now lenders making “sub prime” loand to people who should NEVER have gotten a mortgage, and now they cannot pay. Financial institutions who make sub prime loans to benefit from the foreclosures are SAD!!!
Screw what people think in polls. They aren’t economic experts. Their just credit addicted shopping monkeys.
I WANT SOME REAL ACTION!
I WANT TO SEE THE ECONOMY COMPLETELY TANK!
June 19th, 2007 at 5:22 pmBut.. but … Clinton!!!
June 19th, 2007 at 5:26 pmCrump’s Brother,
June 19th, 2007 at 5:28 pmThe Muslim media is making people think the economy is bad.
I just recently got a new job making 20& more than what I did before.
Real bad economy!
Once again the public is slower to wake up than I was, I saw this in Feb. 2000. right after this bunch of screw up’s took office…Yep! in 2000 Washington State went from lot’s of easy to get job’s and a good econemy to few job’s and only big business was prospering…It was in an instant like slamming a door..Blessings
June 19th, 2007 at 5:29 pmCrump’s Brother,
The Muslim media is making people think the economy is bad.
I just recently got a new job making 20& more than what I did before.
Real bad economy!
Comment by The Joker
Another retard who thinks “the economy” is all about his own salary. Like the retards who say “Global warming is bunk. It was cooler today than yesterday at my house!”
June 19th, 2007 at 5:31 pmThe Joker ain’t joking when he calls himself “The Joker”.
June 19th, 2007 at 5:32 pmListen people of the world are united against buying America products
We dont buy your goods anymore
I have been teaching my children NOT to buy American products
remember this
June 19th, 2007 at 5:34 pmBERLIN – No more Coca-Cola or Budweiser, no Marlboro, no American whiskey or even American Express cards — a growing number of restaurants in Germany are taking everything American off their menus to protest the war in Iraq.
Here comes the anti-Bush, anti-Republic Party freight train. Too bad it’s also the major recession/depression freight train. If you have large debt (Bush borrowed $1 Trillion from the Chinese), you should pay it off now.
June 19th, 2007 at 5:35 pmGee, do Americans for the last six years feel that the national economy has been getting worse? That seems to coincide with the six years of the Bush crime family’s attempt to destroy America: shipping our good tech jobs to India, shipping our manufacturing jobs to Mexico and China, cutting taxes for the absurdly rich, running stupid wars of imperial aggression in the Middle East and trying to destroy our Bill of Rights and our Constitution. What an amazing parlay from stealing the 2000 Presidential Election and letting 19 middle eastern terrorists attack us on nine-eleven. Imagine a rich and powerful country of some third hundred million educated and intelligent people being buffaloed by few hundred or a few thousand anti-American terraists…
It’s time for us to stand tall for an independent Voters’ Internet Party (VIP) and chuck out all of the Bush crime family creeps, and their GOP enablers and the go along corporate Democrats.
June 19th, 2007 at 5:35 pmZamzam — which previously exported only to Iraq and Afghanistan — is benefiting from a grass-roots campaign by Arabs and Muslims to boycott American goods
June 19th, 2007 at 5:35 pmWar Leads to Boycotts of American Goods, … According to the BBC
June 19th, 2007 at 5:35 pm“The Muslim media is making people think the economy is bad.
I just recently got a new job making 20& more than what I did before.
Real bad economy!
Comment by The Joker”
That’s nice…your mommy upped your allowance again huh?
June 19th, 2007 at 5:36 pmBut have you seen the raise Cheney gave Halliburton?
By the way, welcome to the world of 5-digit incomes.
June 19th, 2007 at 5:37 pmY lo que os queda en USA por venir.
Estad preparados. La fortaleza del euro con respecto al dolar es sólo una señal.
June 19th, 2007 at 5:38 pmPlease try to assimilate.
June 19th, 2007 at 5:40 pmJust like religon, you can “believe” whatever you want to believe. The Markets are booming right now with nothing outside of tax increases to slow it down. The left has done a good job selling the idea of a bad economy, but the economic indicators and statistics don’t lie. And just like religon, your “beliefs” are usually wrong.
June 19th, 2007 at 5:43 pm“Just like religon, you can “believe†whatever you want to believe. The Markets are booming right now with nothing outside of tax increases to slow it down. The left has done a good job selling the idea of a bad economy, but the economic indicators and statistics don’t lie. And just like religon, your “beliefs†are usually wrong.
Comment by Roger_Roger — June 19, 2007 @ 5:43 pm”
PLLLLEEEEEAAAASSSSSEEEE!!!!!!!
This is the worst economy I can remember since I have entered the work force in the early 80’s…..
Oh…. And those INDICATORS….. They can be manipulated…..
Sorry, but I actaually have LESS money now then I did 7 years ago…. My lifestyle remains basically the same…. Yet now I cannot travel like I used to, and I find myself being unable to spend money like I was able to.
This is the WORST economy!!!! I LONG for the days that Clinton was president…..
MORE JOBS, MORE MONEY, MORE FREEDOM!!!!
June 19th, 2007 at 5:48 pmBABELFISH
Y lo que os queda en USA por venir.
Estad preparados. La fortaleza del euro con respecto al dolar es sólo una señal.
READS SPANISH TO ENGLISH
June 19th, 2007 at 5:48 pmAnd what you have left in the USA to come. You are prepared. The strength of euro with respect to dolar is only one signal.
“The left has done a good job selling the idea of a bad economy, but the economic indicators and statistics don’t lie.
Comment by Roger_Roger — June 19, 2007″
i knew the guy at the supermarket overcharged for milk, bread, and pretty much everything i bought! and the guy at the gas station did the same thing! p.s.–yesterday the housing numbers lied.
June 19th, 2007 at 5:49 pmOf course it is getting worse, when you have rampant greed in charge everyone ends of losing sooner or later….(later being the riots that are gonna happen when gas and food run out)
June 19th, 2007 at 5:50 pmhttp://babelfish.altavista.com/
is quite good for translation
June 19th, 2007 at 5:51 pmI guess your right. We do have like 4% of the population out of work and jsut because the market is at an all time high really doesn’t mean that much…………
June 19th, 2007 at 5:52 pmcome on your economy is shite
we get so many dollars for our money life is cheap for us in the US
BUT WE STILL DONT WANT TO GO THERE OR BY YOUR GOODS
stuff that
June 19th, 2007 at 5:53 pmYes 70% of Americans know the Bush Regime economy sucks bigtime, but the 30% are the same brain-dead fools who support Bush dummy.
June 19th, 2007 at 5:53 pmRoger_Roger,
The Dow Jones in not a good indicator of overall economic well being. So few americans actually own stock.
REall Wages have gone down since the beginning of the Conservative War on the middle class.
Warren Buffet himself said that there was indeed a class war, and his calss was winning. Democracy cannot exist in its best form without a vibrant middle class, and we are losing ours.
But I’m sure you don’t see it that way.
Health Care costs, skyrocketing. Education costs, skyrocketing. Good Paying Jobs, leaving. Prescription Drug Costs, astronomical. Pensions, gone.
Energy costs, through the roof. Unions, being beat down by corporatists, and REAL wages are stagnant.
Only the wealthy are doing well.
June 19th, 2007 at 5:54 pm4% out of work
and 75% working for peanuts
if you pay peanuts you get monkeys
June 19th, 2007 at 5:54 pmKeep on drinking that Kool aid, Roger_Roger. The economy hasn’t tanked due to the unbridaled use of credit – both privately and governmentally (with huge increases in debt under the BA). Globalization doesn’t allow a middle class like that seen in America, and we are fully vested the Global Economy. Your job, whatever it may be, will be done for less than half of what you earn, by a former communist or Third World worker.
“The Markets” (I love how you say that – like you belong!) are not patriotic institutions. They are Capitalists (International Capitalists, to be more precise), and true Capitalism holds no place for sentimental patriotic mumbo-jumbo. They’ll go where the money is without a second thought for you, your Constitution, or your flag. Wake up and start behaving like a true conservative.
June 19th, 2007 at 5:54 pmFor the last few years, I have tracked the data published by the US Dept of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics. I have a cute little spreadsheet that compares the month-by-month new jobs performance of all presidents back to Johnson’s 2nd term.
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?series_id=CES0000000001&data_tool=%22EaG%22&output_view=net_1mth
For this president, for the last 6+ years, the monthly average has been only 56,000 new jobs. The BLS says that we need something like 160,000 new jobs every month to keep up with the new workers trying to enter the workforce. That’s why the majority of us think this is a bad economy. Every month, another 100,000 cannot find a job.
To compare to other presidents:
Carter: 215,000/month,
Super-Ron: 168,000/month,
Poppy: 54,000/month,
Clinton: 237,000/month.
In the 10+ years the Bushes have been inflicted on Americans, they could count less than 8 million new jobs.
In only 4 years, Carter could count over 10 million new jobs.
In only 8 years, Clinton could count over 22 million new jobs.
In the 18+ years of 2 Bushes and Super-Ron, they could count only 24 million new jobs.
June 19th, 2007 at 5:55 pmIn only 12 years, Clinton and Carter counld count over 32 million new jobs.
“I guess your right. We do have like 4% of the population out of work and jsut because the market is at an all time high really doesn’t mean that much…………
Comment by Roger_Roger — June 19, 2007 @ 5:52 pm”
You do realize that those STATISTICS on UNEMPLOYMENT ONLY COUNT those that are making claims?????
IT DOES NOT COUNT THOSE THAT THE CLAIMS RAN OUT FOR AND HAVE NOT FOUND JOBS…….
There are MORE people out of work now than have been in over 10 years…..
Just because the Unemployment is low DOES NOT MEAN that there are not more people UNEMPLOYED!
IDIOT!
June 19th, 2007 at 5:56 pm“Just like religon, you can “believe†whatever you want to believe. The Markets are booming right now with nothing outside of tax increases to slow it down. The left has done a good job selling the idea of a bad economy, but the economic indicators and statistics don’t lie. And just like religon, your “beliefs†are usually wrong.
Comment by Roger_Roger — June 19, 2007 @ 5:43 pm”
Every Americans knows whether he or she is better off economically under republican leadership. Seventy percent of Americans looked at their own financial situation and determined that the republicans’ economic policy is not working for them.
June 19th, 2007 at 5:56 pmTobey Tall,
Yes boycott American good and keep buying Chinese
That we they Nuke America in 20 years!
Hurayyy!
You guys are a sick bunch.
June 19th, 2007 at 5:58 pmControlled and manipulated by Muslims.
You guys are losers.
When this Islamic regime is America is overthrown you’ll pay!
“I hope we shall crush in its birth, the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of country” – Thomas Jefferson
“I have the Confederacy before me, and the bankers behind me, and for my country I fear the bankers most.” – Abraham Lincoln
“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.” – Dwight Eisenhower
June 19th, 2007 at 5:58 pmHa losres.
June 19th, 2007 at 5:59 pmI make 63,000 a year!
Yeah the economy sucks!
Don’t let your employer catch you tryin’ to spell.
Just sayin’.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:01 pmOh please the economy is doing as well as it was doing back when me, the god of the Democratic party was President.
When you have the media and Liberals day in and day out repeating that the economy is bad, silly human beings will believe it.
the fact is that the economy is good, really, really good.
look at unemployment, look at the budget being balanced, look at any and all economic indicators and you will see that our economy is doing well.
I have never understood why we silly Democrats love polls so much.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:01 pm“I make 63,000 a year!
Yeah the economy sucks!
Comment by The Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 5:59 pm”
Well good for you!!!!
I make much more than that….. And for the last 5 years, I have received one or two raises. Which amounted to about 6% for these raises.
Before Bush, I got a raise EVERY YEAR and the LOWEST was 4%.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:02 pmJoker I make 140K a year – guess that makes you a loser. Hell my wife makes more than you.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:04 pmPresident Clinton,
“look at the budget being balanced”
WHAT?!?!?!? Record deficit spending and debt incursion by the party of fiscal responsibility (The Repubs) there has been no balanced budget under this administration.
I know, if you say it loud enough however you wont have to listen to the facts. You are a true moron!!
June 19th, 2007 at 6:05 pmAnd yet, NOBODY WILL DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT!
When do we overthrow our government?
What must the scumbags politicians do in order for the American people to rise up against them?
THEY DO NOT REPRESENT OUR INTERESTS!
America R.I.P.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:05 pmSo basically the trolls can’t say anything, so they either throw snit fits ala the aptly named joker, or they point out that the wealthiest 1% of America is doing great. Interesting set of priorities there guys.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:06 pmEvery corporatist loves fools like herr joker. He thinks he’s getting a swell deal, and screw the rest of the idiots.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:07 pmHeckuva tool, jokie!
800 percent. Increase in the number of internally displaced people in Iraq from one year ago, a “human tragedy unprecedented in Iraq’s history,†according to the Iraqi Red Crescent. June 18, 2007 2:00 pm
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70 percent:Number of Americans who believe that the economy is getting worse, according to a new Gallup poll, “the most negative reading in nearly six years.â€
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stupid
TP, in a situation like this I recommend the following:
Think of the heading like an answer and question as would appear on Jeopardy.
Answer: 800%
Question: What was the increase in the number of etc…
This works. It is good.
But let’s try the heading of this thread:
Answer: 70%
Question: What is the number of Americans who believe etc….
This would not fly on Jeopardy…
and it just sounds stupid.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:07 pmYou think people are so open to suggestion, that they can’t figure out if they’re gaining or loosing?
The budget being balanced? Show me.
And you dare to appropriate the name of the 2nd greatest president (FDR being the first) of the 20th century.
Shameful and Intellectually dishonest.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:07 pmI make less money today than I made while President, and I have a better living today.
yeah, the economy sucks.
Only my idiotic, left wing moonbats would stand by this ridiculous polls.
The economy sucks so bad that under Bush we have the most small businesses ever to have started in American history, more people own cars today than ever in American history, more people own homes than ever in American history.
also, more minorities today own homes and cars than ever in the american history.
the economy is all about perception and when you have the media and the Liberals day in and out telling you it sucks, well then it must suck right because we lying liberals never lie, right?
Sorry, all the economic indicators show that our economy is booming and roaring foward.
but how can we give credit to Bush on this, we can’t, Bush has never done anything right, we Liberals can’t say anything good about Bush, we must destroy him at all cause no matter the cost and who stands on our way.
Bush sucks and we must bring him down and destroy any legacy he might be trying to create.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:08 pmPAY ATTENTION TO ME! No one pays attention to me in real life so I come on here and pretend to be the most popular president ever (even though she hasn’t been elected yet) so that people will like me and think I’m pretty. I don’t even have to say anything clever (which is good, because I’m not very bright) and people will respond to me. I love it.
If you don’t PAY ATTENTION TO ME I will go Chinese Embassy in Serbia on you. Guaranteed.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:10 pm“
Bush has never done anything right….
Bush sucks and we must bring him down and destroy any legacy he might be trying to create.
Comment by President Clinton — June 19, 2007 @ 6:08 pm”
This is about the ONLY thing posted that is CORRECT!!!
Everything else is nothing but DRIBBLE!!!
June 19th, 2007 at 6:11 pmComment by Tobey Tall — June 19, 2007 @ 5:48 pm
Your name is TOBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 19th, 2007 at 6:11 pmsmafdy,
I don’t appropiate the name of a Democratic god, I am this god, silly little smafdy.
Yes, I am the second……………………wait, second….who the f@k are you to claim I am the second greatest President……………I am the first, the only, the one greatest President to ever set foot on the Oval Office rug. FDR only wishes he could be the god that I was.
I mean under me, the largest tax increase in the middle class was passed, under me the WTC was first attacked and the terrorist tried to bring it down, under me two American embassies were blown to pieces by Al Qaeda, under me Bin Laden declared war on the USA and called the USA a paper tiger, under me Bin Laden planned 9/11, under me the USS Cole was attacked, under me in 2000 a recession began, under me education got worst, under me I made a mockery of the office of the PResident, under me I lied, committed perjury and asked Monica to lie for me while she was under oath.
Yes, me, the greatest President, the god of the Democratic party.
yes smafdy, I love easilly fooled, easily manipulated, tools like you. Look how you go around claiming that I was the second greatest President ever. My communication staff revised history and you, like a poor useful tool believe it.
I love ignorant, poorly educated Democratic voters like you. Please don’t ever get an education or you will stop voting Democratic.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:13 pmAll economic indicators do NOT show that our economy is “roaring forward”.
We are living high-on-the-hog, on borrowed money.
Don’t worry kids, me and your mom both lost our jobs to outsourcing, but we still have plenty of credit cards. What’s in your wallet? (I’m betting it’s not cash).
June 19th, 2007 at 6:14 pmI have rentals, I have first hand knowledge that indeed the economy is not getting better. I have not raised rents for 6 years because these poor folks are struggling just to eat, much less have excess of anything. One could not pay his rent because his meds cost so much, I let him do some work for me so he could buy his meds.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:16 pmYes, my wife and I are doing well, but on 9/11 my income fell 25%, I can just imagine how bad it is for some people.
…under me education got worst…
Well, there goes your proof.
When do you think it’ll get worserest?
You and the deciderer make a good team.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:17 pmsmafdy,
get an education fool and then you won’t lose your job, silly uneducated Democratic voter who believes I am a god. By the way, thank you for the complement, but remember, I AM THE FIRST PRESIDENT! not the second or third, or fourth…..I am first.
now go educate yourself in a job that won’t be out sourced.
yes, silly little boy, my useful tool smafdy, all economic indicators show that our economy is roaring an dmoving foward. Yes because you say it is not happening, it doesn’t make it so.
My wife Hellary taught me this.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:17 pmPAY ATTENTION TO ME! No one pays attention to me in any more, so I came back from the dead to show everone here that I am still the best emperor ever (even though the US doesn’t have an emperor yet (or do we (we do!!!!!!!!!!))) so that people will like me and think I’m the shit, bitch. I don’t even have to say anything clever (which is good, because I like to use violence) and people will respond to me. I love it.
If you don’t PAY ATTENTION TO ME I will go Actium on Iran. Guaranteed.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:18 pmComment by President Clinton — June 19, 2007 @ 6:17 pm
Moron.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:19 pm“I guess your right. We do have like 4% of the population out of work and jsut because the market is at an all time high really doesn’t mean that much…………
Comment by Roger_Roger — June 19, 2007 @ 5:52 pm”
This 96% employment rate include people working part time; people working multiple jobs; people working from paycheck to paycheck; people working who have no benefits whatsoever; people working with little benefits; people working at Wal-Mart (America’s largest private sector employer), McDonalds, Burger king etc. And the unemployment numbers don’t include people who have been out of work for more than six months. These people might have a different outlook on their economic situation than you.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:22 pmForeclosures at an all time high:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,282355,00.html
Personal savings at 74 year low:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16922582/
So these are signs of s good middle / lower class?
June 19th, 2007 at 6:24 pmNow you’ve done it – you’ve gone and introduced facts into the conversation. Just because of you, the trolls will fade away.
Thanks.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:27 pmNow you’ve done it – you’ve gone and introduced facts into the conversation. Just because of you, the trolls will fade away.
Thanks.
Comment by smafdy — June 19, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
Oh, if only it were that easy…
June 19th, 2007 at 6:31 pmNow you’ve done it – you’ve gone and introduced facts into the conversation. Just because of you, the trolls will fade away.
Thanks.
Comment by smafdy — June 19, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
Sadly nothing stops idiots like Roger_Roger (and twice as stupid) to go away.
Some day they’ll wake up from the lies the media tells them (you know how a good stock market is a sign of a strong economy). And 4% unemployment (which doesn’t include those no longer eligible, or forced to work for less money). I have several friends working two jobs because cost of living increases have not kept up. And to maintain their lifestyle. (Like not going into foreclosure) they are forced to take two jobs.
It’s really simple, but Roger’s even too stupid to understand. you can’t have a good economy with so much debt. Personal, or governmental. And we have both.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:33 pmThe personal savings rate for all Americans last year (2006) was negative. the personal savings rate the year before (2005) was negative.
That means that we’re not only financing this war, but we’re also financing the consumer spending that has been driving this economy.
The last time the national savings rate was negative for two years in a row?
During the Great Depression.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:38 pmHow to silence a troll? A 2×4 made of facts, straight between the eyes (but you have to hit then hard).
June 19th, 2007 at 6:44 pmSchool Enrollment Surpasses 1970 Baby-Boom Crest,
Census Bureau Reports
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/education/005157.html
The number of students enrolled in elementary and high school in 2003 — 49.5 million — surpassed the previous all-time high of 48.7 million set in 1970 when baby-boomers were of school-age.
I was looking at the number posted above for jobs created and decided to look at how many are enrolled in school that will eventually need jobs. Since there are 12 grades I divided the 50 million by 12 for an average graduation amount. We need to create about 4.1 million new jobs a year. Over Dubyas term he would need to create some 32 million jobs to keep up with enrolled students. 160,000 (1.9 million a year) jobs a month seems inadequate.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:45 pmIt’s just you — the economy is doing great!
http://www.unknownnews.org/070521a-KevinGood.html
June 19th, 2007 at 6:48 pmIt’s just you — the economy is doing great!
Yumm Potatoes and Saran Wrapped Humans!!
June 19th, 2007 at 6:54 pmComment by Photon Entanglement — June 19, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
I think your assumption that every high school graduate needs a job inflates the workforce growth figure somewhat.
But, even with a sharp discount (to account for those who do not need jobs), your figure of 341,000 new jobseekers per month still makes the president’s performance of 56,000 new jobs seem all the more inadequate, doesn’t it?
June 19th, 2007 at 7:05 pmCrump’s Brother,
The Muslim media is making people think the economy is bad.
I just recently got a new job making 20& more than what I did before.
Real bad economy!
Comment by The Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 5:28 pm
What did you do before? And now? Twice nothing is still nothing. Muslim media? Wow that’s wild! Wanna back it up? Those mUslims are some badass mothers. Shit why we were busy fighting them over there, they took over our media.
June 19th, 2007 at 7:29 pmOnce we get these LYING a$$hole sh!tph*cks out of office you will see the numbers are much worst than ever reported. Why should this be different from all the rest of thier bu!!sh!t!!
Then you will see the dollar crash and the economy crumbling to it’s knees. I wish this what not the case, but, GW Botch has ph*cked us all!!!
June 19th, 2007 at 7:42 pmBuck Fush,
If you’re making that much momney, why you bitching?
As you guys know I don’t support Bush and view him as a Muslim agent.
However he is responsible for Hi-Tech jobs going to India.
He should’ve tax companies for the amount every job going to India.
All I know is economically I’m doing good.
As for the dhakey economy.
It’’s called globalization.
The Muslim masters are doing this on purpose so they can take over America.
dbadass,
June 19th, 2007 at 8:24 pmI’m against the Iraq war.
So no argument here.
I’m making $63,000 dollars a year thank you.
The fact is I know how to survive.
You’re a weak brainwashed Dhimmi who does whatever your Muslims masters do!
Open your Eyes!
dbadass,
I’m against the Iraq war.
So no argument here.
I’m making $63,000 dollars a year thank you.
The fact is I know how to survive.
You’re a weak brainwashed Dhimmi who does whatever your Muslims masters do!
Open your Eyes!
Comment by Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 8:24 pm
By which oracle do this false impressions of me being arise? You did not answer my questions but instead attempted to insult. Should I value your ideas?
June 19th, 2007 at 8:30 pmSure, concentrate on the seventy percent as if the thirty percent didn’t count!
June 19th, 2007 at 8:44 pmComment by Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 8:24 pm
You’re stupid over here on this thread too…How do you ever find time to spread so much stupidty on more than one thread? Do your other personalities help out??
June 19th, 2007 at 9:32 pmWhy do 70% of Americans hate the economy? I say just give em some more credit cards so that they shut up and spend, otherwise the terrorists win. With us or against us. To spend is freedom.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:54 pmI just posted the secret to getting rich on my blog. It’s top secret, and only the wealthy know about it. Don’t tell anyone.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:07 pm#50 “I have not raised rents for 6 years because these poor folks are struggling just to eat, much less have excess of anything. One could not pay his rent because his meds cost so much, I let him do some work for me so he could buy his meds.
Yes, my wife and I are doing well, but on 9/11 my income fell 25%, I can just imagine how bad it is for some people” Buck Fush
#33: “Ha losres.
I make 63,000 a year!” The Joker
#68: “Buck Fush,
If you’re making that much momney, why you bitching?” The Joker
Pretty much sums up the difference between Liberals and NeoCons. The U.S. needs a hell of a lot more people like you Buck Fush.
JFM
June 19th, 2007 at 10:07 pmUSAF,RETE
“The economy is booming…and this time we mean it.”
June 20th, 2007 at 6:31 amI heard that there is a EU banks project to create a card to substitute the VISA one, principally. Too many money going overseas.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:55 amWho cares what they think, the economy is actually getting stronger for everybody!!
June 20th, 2007 at 10:56 amThat report is a bunch of hooey. We have the LOWEST unemployement rate in a long time.
Of course we can always get the ILLEGALs out of the country, that would open quite a few jobs for Americans.
Oh? Hmmm… Not enough jobs, but we have millions of illegal people here working, but we cant send them off, because they are doing jobs that americans dont want to do? Something in that logic escapes me..
Last but not least, the reason foreclosures are up, is that there are now lenders making “sub prime” loand to people who should NEVER have gotten a mortgage, and now they cannot pay. Financial institutions who make sub prime loans to benefit from the foreclosures are SAD!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 11:47 am