Brookings Analyst O’Hanlon: No One Can ‘Question The Forthrightness’ Of Petraeus
Brookings Analyst O’Hanlon: No One Can ‘Question The Forthrightness’ Of Petraeus
In today’s Washington Times, Brookings’ military analyst Michael O’Hanlon pens an op-ed attacking Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-NV) recent remarks about Gen. David Petraeus, calling them “unseemly and unfair.”
Reid last week argued that Petraeus’ early reports from Iraq indicate he is not “in touch with what’s going on in Baghdad.” Petraeus last week claimed life in Iraq is showing “astonishing signs of normalcy,” seemingly ignoring a Pentagon report which found violence in Iraq has remained “relatively unchanged” since the escalation took effect. O’Hanlon’s op-ed appears to posit that “questioning the forthrightness” of Petraeus is unacceptable.
In a statement for ThinkProgress, Center for American Progress senior fellow and former Assistant Secretary of Defense Lawrence Korb responds, noting that O’Hanlon failed to comment on instances where Petraeus has inserted himself into politics:
I was pleased to note that Brookings fellow Michael O’Hanlon agrees that we need an outside group to check on his friend and former Princeton classmate General David Petraeus, a point I argued last month in the Philadelphia Inquirer.
However this glosses over the fact that not only was General Petraeus too optimistic about the training program of Iraq’s forces but that he put this over-optimistic spin in a Washington Post op-ed right before the last presidential election. If Doctor General Petraeus is as smart as O’Hanlon, he had to know that such an op-ed was bound to have an impact on the 2004 elections.
O’Hanlon claims that Sen. Reid “has also shown little interest as majority leader in helping devise a ‘Plan B’ that might replace the admittedly flailing strategy of the president, short of nearly complete and nearly immediate withdrawal.” Reid has led a coalition that passed a timetable for withdrawal in the Senate, and he is the co-sponosor of legislation that would withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Iraq by April 1, 2008. O’Hanlon may not like it, but Reid is certainly involved in “devising a Plan B.”
Atrios notes O’Hanlon’s contribution to a “Plan B” has been to simply inform us that “2007 will be make or break time in Iraq,” all the while attacking anyone who wants to act on that statement.
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No One Can ‘Question The Forthrightness’ Of Petraeus
I don’t question his forthrightness.
I just question his brainpower.
June 19th, 2007 at 7:56 pmPetraeus speaks, from GOP Quotes of the Week:
“We haven’t started the surge - the full surge - yet. So let me have a few months.”
General David Petraeus, June 5, 2007.
“We’re only about two months into the surge.”
General David Petraeus, April 25, 2007.
“What is taking place in Anbar is almost breathtaking.”
June 19th, 2007 at 7:59 pmGeneral David Petraeus, on progress in Iraq, June 8, 2007.
right. the Military and its leaders should be worshiped above everything else in society.
I guess that’s what happens when you have a system where the military, its polices, and its aggressions are so intertwined in everything.
I personally think we need to start questioning every single military leader ….they only reason for their existence seems to be war….and that sure is what we get out of it.
Crippling budgets, bases all over the world, wars, deaths and on and on and on.
What does that bring us? I think it will be our downfall.
Some further reading:
“Leaders Don’t Kill People…”
June 19th, 2007 at 8:00 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/leaders_dont_kill_people
let’s back this train up for just a minute… if there’s one thing i have become increasingly sure of is that, these days, there is NO ONE who i can honestly describe as being forthright… that applies equally and doubly to generals hired by the bush regime and military experts in think tanks…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
June 19th, 2007 at 8:02 pm“O’Hanlon claims that Sen. Reid “has also shown little interest as majority leader in helping devise a ‘Plan B’ that might replace the admittedly flailing strategy of the president…”
Yeah, right. Like Chimpy would ever even bother to blow a snot on any “Plan B” that Harry Reid helped devise.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:04 pmis this guy stupid, or does he get paid enough to pen the drivel to not care about having any character?
June 19th, 2007 at 8:06 pmWhere we’re headed:
Today is the summer solstice, the day of greatest light. For the next 6 months, darkness will grow, both in the amount of night time, and upon the face of the land.
Those who walk in darkness will grow in power, and a great shadow will reach across the earth; may they achieve all they set out to do.
The mutual annihilation of those who harbor hate is about to unfold, exponentially.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:08 pmThe general has the job and the surge because he was the only toadie willing to do it…the others had to retire, get it? Only toadies are kept in the crime family…
June 19th, 2007 at 8:10 pmYeah who cares what that paid-off GOPer journalist thinks about anything.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:17 pmis this guy stupid, or does he get paid enough to pen the drivel to not care about having any character?
Comment by oldtree — June 19, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
Why can’t it be both?
June 19th, 2007 at 8:18 pmOne thing constant about civilian neo-conservative…they are all lying, chickenshit, chickenhawk, warmongering cowards who have never lived through the sacrifice they think is just normal for our military…they only understand profits for the military industrial complex and oil companies.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:19 pmLarry Korb is an idiot. He doesn’t even know that it was Jimmy Carter who gave Saddam the green light to attack Iran in the Summer of 1980.
Now he discredits O’Hanlon, the favorite source for TP’s stats on the Iraq War.
At this very moment Iraqi and American forces are killing AQ in Baquba, while Harry Reid waves his little white hanky.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:21 pmEvery pic of GOPers that TP posts shows someone with soul-less eyes. A person’s eyes are the windows into their soul, so GOPers souls are dead.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:29 pmAh, the trolls have finally arrived. I can’t say they haven’t done anything for me. They inspired my latest song parody, which all are welcome to see at my blog.
Anyway, I think we can all stipulate that neo-conservatives cannot justify their position because they simply do not know how to use the truth to make their arguments. Too often, their misguided ideology serves as their “fact” base. To argue with them, you have to go back to square one: We all agree that the world is a dangerous place, but do you think (like them) that it will always be dangerous, or do you think (like us) that it can be made better? Since we disagree right from the beginning, we will almost never be able to find a mutually agreeable solution to our problems. Just remember, they represent just a tiny fraction of the population. Notice how they really don’t want any of their policies to come to a vote by the people (or a decision by a judge.)
June 19th, 2007 at 8:34 pmAmericans are told the truth and General Petraeus was placed in the job to lies. Yes he has a good record with the Military but so did the other Bush Appointed Generals. Any General that tells the truth is fired. I noticed Americans like the lies too. Oh yes the lip service SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, while watching American Idol. If a reporter or elected official tells the truth he/she is cut down by the paid media.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:42 pmThe Republican are run by Saudia arabia.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:45 pmthey are traitors.
So are the Democrats.
Mulsim agentas like Jay Randal and Wayne A. Schneider are diverting well meaning patriotic Leftists from realizing the truth.
Both Parties are control by foreign Muslim interests.
That’s why agents like Jay and Wayne alwasys tow the Muslim line.
They are either well paide Dhimmis or Active agents of Iran or Saudi Arabia.
Well guys which is it?
“THIS THREAD NEEDS AN ENEMA!!!”
- The Real Joker
June 19th, 2007 at 8:46 pmJoker > did your brain fall on the floor and a dog ate most of it? Neither me, nor Wayne, are agents of anybody, but I guess you see terrorists lurking behind every tree to kill you > lol.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:49 pmPatraeus is Muslim.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:49 pmYou can’t believe a word that loser say.
The war is designed to weaken America and allow a Muslim takeover of America.
With the help of Clowns likes Moveon.Org(Irania Money), Daily Kos(Iranian Money), Rush Limbaugh(Saudi Money), Sean Hannity(Saudi Money), Keith Olbermann(Iranian Muslim), Bill O’Reilly(Saudi Agent), Lou Dobbs(Iranian Agent),The Minutemen(Al-Qaeda affiliates) and this cite Center for American Progress(Hizb’Allah Front groups).
Wake up and realize the Muslims are dividing us against each other.
Let’s unite!
Vote Libertarian!
Vote Green!
Jay Randal,
June 19th, 2007 at 8:50 pmWhy do you always take a Pro-Muslim position?
Hmmm?
Reichwingers have been right about so much in the last six years, we must listen to this moron? What has the reichwing been right about? WMD? Democracy elections? Last throes? Turning the corner? What have these fools been right about that would make anyone with half a brain believe anything they say? That premise is enough to downgrade Petraus to a zero.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:53 pmkasinca,
June 19th, 2007 at 8:56 pmWhy do you hate you’re fellow Americans?
You are falling the Islamic attempst to Divide America.
Wake up!
The Problem is that the leadership of the Republicans and Democrats both are run by Islamic interests.
Wake up!
The Republican are run by Saudia arabia.
they are traitors.
So are the Democrats.
Mulsim agentas like Jay Randal and Wayne A. Schneider are diverting well meaning patriotic Leftists from realizing the truth.
Both Parties are control by foreign Muslim interests.
That’s why agents like Jay and Wayne alwasys tow the Muslim line.
They are either well paide Dhimmis or Active agents of Iran or Saudi Arabia.
Well guys which is it?
Comment by The Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
For the record, I am not a “Muslim agenta” (whatever the hell that is.)
Nor do I “tow the Muslim line.” Now that the facts are out, if you can’t provide proof of your allegations, you can formally consider it an actionable case of slander against me and, I have every reason in the world to believe, Mr. Jay Randal. Whether or not we choose to take action is up to us (indivisdually or together).
What do you say, Jay? Should we see if we can find out if he is paid by the RNC? That would make them culpable, as well.
By the way, Joker. If you visit my blog, you will find (much to your surprise) that I have been advocating that everyone vote for a third party candidate next election. I also wrote a song aprody about people lke you (though I will leave it to others to decide if it does apply to you.)
GIVE ‘EM THE BIRD
VOTE FOR A THIRD
Now
June 19th, 2007 at 8:57 pmI take an anti-war position. Warfare never solves anything and killing women/children is despicable.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:59 pmFor the record, I am not a “Muslim agenta†(whatever the hell that is.)
It’s a color that looks like a combination of red and purple…
Oh, wait.
I’m thinking of Magenta
June 19th, 2007 at 9:01 pmWell, I’m certainly with you on this one!
“War is not the answer.” - Marvin Gaye
June 19th, 2007 at 9:01 pmI don’t remember typing the word “Now” at the end of my post a few comments back. Obviously the election isn’t being held right now.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:03 pmWayne > Joker seems to be too stupid to be a paid Rove boy. He/she/it thinks everybody is a Islamic agent, so somebody who hates all Muslims.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:03 pmI can question his “forthrightness”.
He is an azzhole-licking “yes-man” of TRAITORS Bush and Cheney.
Reid told the TRUTH, just POLITELY:
Petraeus has BETRAYED HIS OATH to the Constitution of the USA in favor of WAR CRIMINAL TRAITORS, which makes HIM a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:04 pmHe/she/it thinks everybody is a Islamic agent, so somebody who hates all Muslims.
Comment by Jay Randal — June 19, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
So what you’re saying, Jay, is that he might have some kind of insanity defense? :)
June 19th, 2007 at 9:05 pmWayne,
“What do you say, Jay? Should we see if we can find out if he is paid by the RNC? That would make them culpable, as well.”
Bring it on.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:06 pmI am not a Republican.
I detest that party.
I once was and the Saudis hijacked in 2000 with their attacks against a real American hero John McCain.
I do apologize for lumping you in with that Islamic agent Jay Randal.
I see you’re a Liberatrian.
I’m just a Nationalistic Isolation.
America should be self sufficient and free of Muslim influence.
The Problem is that the leadership of the Republicans and Democrats both are run by Islamic interests.
Wake up!
Comment by The Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
And how does LIEberman (R-Israel) fit into your fantasy along with all the Christianistas supporting the Repugniscum ph*ckwads that are screwing this country into the ground???!!!
Wake up!!! to the christianistas trying to screw you out of you freedom!!!!
June 19th, 2007 at 9:06 pmNo doubt some will question his forthrightness; some here would scream “Rule of Law!” just for Bush’s motorcade going through all those red lights.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:08 pmJoker> You should also apologize to Mr. Randal, or else your apology to me means little. I implore you to do the right thing.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:08 pmJay Randal,
June 19th, 2007 at 9:09 pmI have read you posts and yu never have condemned Islamic agression in Thailand and the Phillipines.
Why.
How about Hamas now burning Catholic Churches in Gaza strip?
Why no condemnation of this?
I know!
You’re a Muslims agent!
You lying fraud!
They are either well paide Dhimmis or Active agents of Iran or Saudi Arabia.
Well guys which is it?
Comment by The Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
Considering how broke Wayne and I are, I’d have to say you’re just blowing smoke out your ass, dickwad.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:09 pmJoker > learn to spell or lay off the booze > lol.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:10 pmNo doubt some will question his forthrightness; some here would scream “Rule of Law!†just for Bush’s motorcade going through all those red lights.
Comment by Jake — June 19, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Actually I think the law allows the president to do that. “National Security” and all that. Can’t have the President of the United States be a sitting duck at a red light, now, can we?
Hmmm, can we?
No, we can’t. We might actually get a president we like again some day.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:11 pmComment by The Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
Your stupidty needs to be arrested and detained in an overseas prison and stomped into a shallow mud puddle…
Damn, you be stupid….
June 19th, 2007 at 9:12 pmPeople who are “too broke” could save money on things like DSL.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:13 pmLOL I have said nothing about Hamas on TP threads. I am against violence and killing of people to steal their OIL reserves such as in Iraq. I am against any group using terrorism to achieve their goals.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:13 pmGo f*ck yourself, Jake, I’m on your precious “ignore list.”
June 19th, 2007 at 9:14 pmI really hate it when people tell me who I can and cannot question, and the minute they try to tell me that is the minute I begin to question their motives for telling me that.
No one is above question, ESPECIALLY someone appointed by this administration. Patraeus is, unfortunately, tainted by the people who were appointed before him, who by the way, we were also told we could not question. They were all dishonest carriers of the administrations water and Patraeus is no different. He is protecting his career, like all the other generals before him. He will say what the White House wants him to say, no matter what the facts are in Iraq.
Patraeus not only CAN be questioned, but MUST be questioned.
It’s simple. When liars tell me that I can trust someone, I must assume that they are lying.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:16 pmPatraeus is not the commander in chief guy. He (WILL) follow orders or retire.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:21 pmPeople who are “too broke†could save money on things like DSL.
Comment by Jake
Interesting…
Jake always demands that other commenters answer his questions and be civil. But he doesn’t hold himself to his own rules.
He should be on his own Ignore List.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:21 pmZooey sez:
Shakey’s “ignore list” is nothing but a thinly veiled excuse for ducking opponents he’s incapable of confronting directly.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:23 pmJake always demands that other commenters answer his questions and be civil. But he doesn’t hold himself to his own rules.
He should be on his own Ignore List.
Comment by Zooey
Well, yeah, but I think this is Faux Jake.
Maybe.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:23 pmdixie blood,
June 19th, 2007 at 9:28 pmI touched a nerve exposing the truth about your beloved Dhimmicrat party.
You’re a brainwashed fool.
A product of our Islamic media.
Wake up!
Did the Joker finally pass out from all the booze? One can hope anyways > LOL.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:28 pmDhimmicrat?
June 19th, 2007 at 9:29 pmSo what you’re saying, Jay, is that he might have some kind of insanity defense? :)
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
I’m sorry Wayne, but if you go back and study the fine details, you’ll realize,
“There is no Sanity Clause…”
June 19th, 2007 at 9:29 pmajy,
June 19th, 2007 at 9:30 pmYpu never speak out about islamic agression.
You’re a lying fraud and I exposed you.
You just talk about what’s done to Muslims.
You are a fraud dismissed!
“There is no Sanity Clause…â€
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
That calls for a rare — ROTFL. :D
June 19th, 2007 at 9:31 pmJay
“Dhimmicrat?”
Yes a Dhimmi is a Non Muslim who submits to Muslim rule.
Since the Democrats are runned by Iran you are the Dhimmicrats!
Hey Jay what about this why doesn’t this site condemn this!
Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood
June 19th, 2007 at 9:33 pmhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol/ comment/ faith/ article1951462.ece
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — June 19, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
Comment by gummitch — June 19, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
I know, guys. I’m sucker for glaring hypocrisy.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:33 pmJoker > go seek emergency mental care from a facility of your choice. You are certified deranged, and need help, before you harm yourself or others.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:34 pmComment by dixie blood — June 19, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Speaking of Lieberman, did you hear that he’s doing a fundraiser for Susan Collins? Traitorous bastard!
June 19th, 2007 at 9:35 pmhttp://www.fair.org/extra/0205/lynxgate.html
http://www.cellwhitman.blogspot.com/
“I influenced America through the Washington Times and so many different activities.” [Sun Myung Moon - September 13, 2002 “The Last Days Are Coming to America.” Unification News – Sept, 2002]
June 19th, 2007 at 9:37 pmThat calls for a rare — ROTFL. :D
Comment by Zooey
Please excuse my rampant stupidity, but what does ROTFL stand for?
(After all, I AM the Repubic of Stupidityâ„¢…)
This place a a Fu*#kin’ madhouse today… like a hornets nest stirred up…
June 19th, 2007 at 9:37 pmZooey sez:
I think I’m beginning to develop a tolerance, myself… ^_^
June 19th, 2007 at 9:38 pmROTFL=Rolling on the floor laughing
June 19th, 2007 at 9:38 pmSince the Democrats are runned by Iran you are the Dhimmicrats!
Comment by The Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
Right, because the Democrats just can’t resist a bearded guy in a leisure suit.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:39 pmJay Randal,
June 19th, 2007 at 9:40 pmYou’re a fraud.
I’ve exposed you.
You’re an Iranian agent!
(After all, I AM the Repubic of Stupidity™…)
Ewww! Typos can be so…amusing?
June 19th, 2007 at 9:41 pmThis place a a Fu*#kin’ madhouse today… like a hornets nest stirred up…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Heh. You’re entitled to one insane day — but only ONE!
Gummitch has it handled in #62.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:41 pmROTFL=Rolling on the floor laughing
Comment by gummitch
Ooooh… well, in that case, thank you, thank you very much… and for my next trick…
June 19th, 2007 at 9:42 pmPernell,
June 19th, 2007 at 9:42 pmWhay about Muslim control of the NY Times, Washington P{ost, CBS, NBC and LA Times?
Care to discuss that!
As always a good Muslim tactic to divert from the truth!
Ewww! Typos can be so…amusing?
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Ooops… calling Dr. Freud… calling Dr. Freud…
June 19th, 2007 at 9:43 pm(After all, I AM the Repubic of Stupidity™…)
Ewww! Typos can be so…amusing?
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Gross. I totally missed that one. :P
June 19th, 2007 at 9:43 pmJane E. Schneider,
You’re brainwashed.
The Democrats are Islamic agents like the Republicans.
I guess the truth hurts!
Zoeey,
June 19th, 2007 at 9:43 pmYou’re a brainwashed Democratic trick!
ROTFL=Rolling on the floor laughing
Comment by gummitch
And if you want, TROS, you can add MAO to the end of that to make ROTFLMAO. (It stands for Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.)
It’s good to learn all the internets lingo! :)
June 19th, 2007 at 9:44 pmSince the Democrats are runned by Iran you are the Dhimmicrats!
Comment by The Joker
Uh, Joker, isn’t that, “Since the Deomcrats IS runned by Iran?”
Good grammar counts, Joker…
And Welcome to The Republic of Stupidityâ„¢! let’s face it, with an IQ like yours, you were born to be a citizen of the Republic!
Come on down and pick up your door prize, son!
June 19th, 2007 at 9:45 pmJane E. Schneider,
You’re brainwashed.
The Democrats are Islamic agents like the Republicans.
I guess the truth hurts!
Zoeey,
You’re a brainwashed Democratic trick!
Comment by The Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 9:43 pm
Joker, you’re paranoid. Quick, look, there’s an Islamic agent under your bed!
BTW, asswipe, I’m Independent.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:46 pmBTW, Joker (if that is, in fact, your real name), in addition to NOT being Muslim agents (for which you haven’t yet apologized to my friend Mr. Randal), neither my wife, Jane, nor I are Democrats! Which you might know if you took the time to learn anything.
I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberry.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:47 pmIt’s funny I have destroyed everyone in here’s world view.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:48 pmThe Democrats are on the same team as the Republicans.
Wake up!
It’s not Conservative Republican vs. Liberal Democrat.
It’s Shia Democrat vs. Sunni Republican.
Vote Gree or Libertarian to free america of Islamic Rule!
And if you want, TROS, you can add MAO to the end of that to make ROTFLMAO. (It stands for Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.)
It’s good to learn all the internets lingo! :)
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Indeed, that is what I am here for! And while your asses are all falling off and bouncing around on the floor like Michael Jackson’s personal checks, perhaps Jeff Gannon’s wristwatch will finally fall out of one of them…
I’m betting on YOURS, Joker!!!!
June 19th, 2007 at 9:48 pmJoker is an agent of stupidity. He/she/it needs mental therapy badly.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:50 pmHow does it feel to be the one card in the deck that everyone throws away with the cellophane wrapper?
June 19th, 2007 at 9:52 pmZoeey,
You’re a brainwashed Democratic trick!
Comment by The Joker
Is that all you’ve got, CT?
June 19th, 2007 at 9:53 pmIs that all you’ve got, CT?
Comment by Zooey
I dunno, Zooey. CT’s spelling is usually pretty good. This is more like Flaco… bad grammar, BO, bad skin, bad teeth…
June 19th, 2007 at 9:56 pmThe Republic of Stupidity,
Ah making fun of Pedophilai, well your fake prophet Mohammad was a Pedophile.
He married a 9 year old name Aisha.
Pedophilia disgusts me so that little joke wasn’t funny.
But I laugh since you can’t attack my facts!
I have destroyed the Democrats on this board and expsoed that party as an agent of Iran.
Just like how on Little Green Footballs I was banned for exposing the Republicans as agents of Saudi Arabia.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:57 pmThe difference is at least more people were open to that idea.
You guys here are what my friend calls the blind Left.
Not Moonbats.
But Blindbats!
Zooey,
June 19th, 2007 at 9:58 pmYou’re a Isamic loving hack.
You never condemn Islamic agression like that fraud Jay “Jihadi” Randal.
Why is that?
Hmmm?
Methinks someone here has a serious problem with projection.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:01 pmJust like how on Little Green Footballs I was banned for exposing the Republicans as agents of Saudi Arabia.
The difference is at least more people were open to that idea.
You guys here are what my friend calls the blind Left.
Not Moonbats.
But Blindbats!
Comment by The Joker
Welcome aboard, son. We can tolerate almost anything here at the Republicâ„¢, but you would appear to be dead set on establishing a new benchmark…
what my friend calls the blind Left
And you actually have a “friend”… is s/he an imaginary friend? can the rest of us see him/her?
June 19th, 2007 at 10:01 pmMethinks someone here has a serious problem with projection.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Don’t forget personal hygiene either, Wayne.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:02 pmWayne A. Schneider,
Are you sick of Muslim control of America?
If you think it’s bunk here’s something to ponder.
Bush called Islam the religion of Peace
Iman have opened sessions of Congress.
The Medias always portrays Muslims as the good guys and their opponents as bad.
The Democrats attack anyone that criticiez Iran.
Ahmadinejad gets great interviews and is praised by our media.
Explain this?
June 19th, 2007 at 10:04 pmI dunno, Zooey. CT’s spelling is usually pretty good. This is more like Flaco… bad grammar, BO, bad skin, bad teeth…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Ew, you’re probably right.
Nevermind, CT.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:04 pmJoker might be Santo, because he escapes from the mental ward occassionally and somehow gets on a PC.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:05 pmAnyone who signs up for such a prominent position on the Bush team has to enunciate the “flailing strategy” just to stay in the dance.
After all, what failed strategy did not begin as a flailed strategy?
June 19th, 2007 at 10:05 pmThe Republic of Stupidity,
You’re name fits you.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:06 pmIt’s the state your in.
You hate yor fellow americans more than your Islamic masters.
You have fallen for their divide tactics!
You are no different tan any Rightwing Pro-Bush trool.
Blinded to who really runs America!
I think this is ol’ Mr. P usin’ a differ’nt name.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:08 pmJay,
June 19th, 2007 at 10:08 pmYou’re an intellectual coward.
Yiou refuse to belive that your party is really run by Iranins.
Explain the Pro-Iran stance of your party?
Either your dumb or a Muslim agent!
Joker if your are Santo, then post a link to a dance video > lol.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:08 pmLOL Joker > some people think Democrats are controlled by AIPAC, but never has anyone claimed they work for Iran.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:10 pmJay Randal,
June 19th, 2007 at 10:11 pmYou are a coward.
I have exposed you as an agent of Iran.
It’s a shame the Muslims run the FBI because I would contact them on this website.
But since John Podesta is a Shia Muslim an influence in the Dhimmicrat party.
They won’t do anything.
The American people will wake up and rise against their Muslim Oppressors!
Jay Randal,
June 19th, 2007 at 10:12 pmAh AIPAC.
Of course you’re Anti-Semitism shows.
AIPAC is code among Muslims and their Dhimmis allies to divert attention to the Saudi and Iranian influence in our government.
You keep exposing yourself!
Comment by The Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 10:11 pm
“What an eccentric performance!”
June 19th, 2007 at 10:13 pmI think this is ol’ Mr. P usin’ a differ’nt name.
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
**snort**
June 19th, 2007 at 10:13 pmThe Joker,
June 19th, 2007 at 10:14 pmI DEFY YOU!!!
You are a Muslim Shiteater ™
Sent here straight from Islamabad
to infiltrate the blogosphere.
I have called you out,
you are a coward.
Jane > we used to have a troll on TP called Santo and he was always ranting about Muslims and other stupid stuff. He would talk to himself, if nobody else was on a thread.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:16 pmThe Joker sez:
First of all, learn the difference between the possessive ‘your’ and the contraction ‘you’re’.
Second, references to AIPAC do not equal anti-semitism, your pathetic urge to play that particular card notwithstanding.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:17 pmYou’re name fits you.
It’s the state your in.
You hate yor fellow americans more than your Islamic masters.
You have fallen for their divide tactics!
You are no different tan any Rightwing Pro-Bush trool.
Blinded to who really runs America!
Comment by The Joker
Okay, that’s it. I’ve had enough! Son, management is going to have to ask you to leave. The exit is that way ->… and don’t let the knob hit ya on the ass on the way out… but I somehow suspect you’re MORE than familiar w/ the sensation of having a “knob” hit you in the ass, over and over again, pounding and pounding…
June 19th, 2007 at 10:18 pmExplain this?
Comment by The Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
No! Now go away before I taunt you a second time!
June 19th, 2007 at 10:20 pmThe Joker,
I DEFY YOU!!!
You are a Muslim Shiteater â„¢
Sent here straight from Islamabad
to infiltrate the blogosphere.
I have called you out,
you are a coward.
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Uh oh, PIP is throwin’ DOWN!!!
June 19th, 2007 at 10:20 pmTripMaster Monkey,
Yes it is.
It’s used by Muslim front groups to attack Pro-Israel politicians.
You obviously work for such an Islamic front group.
That’s why I touched a nerbve.
Hey care to explain why this site that is runned by Center for American progress has never discussed Islamic agression against Non-Muslims?
How about no Condemnation of the anti-Holocaust conference?
Hmmm?
Or Ahmadinejad’s call to deastroy Israel and America.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:23 pmThis is an Iranian funded site and that’s why I’m here to expose you!
Comment by Jay Randal — June 19, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
Yeah, Jay, I vaguely remember Santo. After a while, I just scrolled past his posts.
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 19, 2007 @ 10:14 pm
Nicely done! You gave him the AXE! :-)
June 19th, 2007 at 10:24 pmPRIMVS INTER PARES ,
Ha ha ah!
June 19th, 2007 at 10:25 pmFunny.
I’m the one who exposes Islamic agents as youreself.
You are an Islamic symapthizer!
You are a traitor and a Moon worshipping coward!
PRIMVS INTER PARES ,
June 19th, 2007 at 10:25 pmBring it on fraud!
“…the sensation of having a “knob†hit you in the ass, over and over again, pounding and pounding…”
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 19, 2007 @ 10:18 pm
Wasn’t one ‘eww’ moment enough for tonight? :D
June 19th, 2007 at 10:27 pmJoker > you need electroshock therapy > it will make you feel better.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:28 pmO’Whore
June 19th, 2007 at 10:28 pmThe Joker,
June 19th, 2007 at 10:32 pmYou have been LIED to
by Islamic masters.
They have made you
think that will serve Allah
and get 70 virgins for
your martyrdom.
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
You are a fool, The Joker.
You will go straight to Xtian Hell.
That’s why I touched a nerbve.
Comment by The Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 10:23 pm
Hey, now, Joker. You keep your hands away from Tripmaster’s “nerbve”!
June 19th, 2007 at 10:32 pmJay,
June 19th, 2007 at 10:32 pmYou can’t answer my facts.
I have destroyed and exposed this site as one =run by Iranian agents.
Faiz is an Iranian intelligence agent.
That’s why you never see any anti-Islamic posts here.
Just the typical blame Bush. blame Israel and Muslims are good posts.
You guys are played out like Polka dots!
PRIMVS INTER PARES ,
June 19th, 2007 at 10:34 pmYou’re the Islamic agent.
I have listed people and organizations affiliated with Saudi Arabia and Iran.
It has touched a nerve.
You are brainwashed not I.
I am an American patriot who wants take this country bacxk from the Muslims.
The Joker,
June 19th, 2007 at 10:36 pmWhy don’t you respond???
Do you admit that your
Muslim Masters have LIED to your face???
Do you still think that you will
get 70 virgins for
your martyrdom???
Why won’t you defend yourself, The Joker???
O’Hanlon is an ass. Rosy reports from Petraeus conflict with the reality of people being blown up every day. Today’s alone saw 75 people killed in a truck bomb attack.
Shut the little twerp up.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:37 pmI am an American patriot who wants take this country bacxk from the Muslims.
Comment by The Joker
Then you go, son… march right into the nearest recruiting office and tell the man behind the desk, “Sir, I’m here to enlist and kill Muslims!” You go, you go down there, Gen Custer!
June 19th, 2007 at 10:37 pmJoker > go send an email to Faiz if you believe that. At the top right of this thread is “CONTACT US” > hit on it and write him a note.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:38 pmThe Joker,
June 19th, 2007 at 10:38 pmYou are an Islamo-Muslim Magenta.
Try to deny, we have the proof,
you will only buy yourself more torture.
Did you think that we would let you
get away, The Joker???
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“Atrios notes O’Hanlon’s contribution to a “Plan B†has been to simply inform us that “2007 will be make or break time in Iraq,†all the while attacking anyone who wants to act on that statement”.
What else is there to expect from one of the Bushes’ Neanderthals? They are stupid, stubborn, and blood-thirsty, just like their master, Dubbya.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:40 pmWayne A. Schneider sez:
I need an adult! I need an adult!
^_^
June 19th, 2007 at 10:43 pmSince the Democrats are runned by Iran you are the Dhimmicrats!
Comment by The Joker
Uh, Joker, isn’t that, “Since the Deomcrats IS runned by Iran?â€
Good grammar counts, Joker…
And Welcome to The Republic of Stupidity™! let’s face it, with an IQ like yours, you were born to be a citizen of the Republic!
Come on down and pick up your door prize, son!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 19, 2007 @ 9:45 pm
TRoS, if I change it to, “Since the Democrats bees runned by Iran …” Can I get a prize too? I wanna bees as good as the Joker.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:49 pmJay Randal,
June 19th, 2007 at 10:52 pmI will so will other members of my organization.
Faiz is an Iranian intelligemnce agent.
We have proff!
He will be emailed.
I think this is ol’ Mr. P usin’ a differ’nt name.
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
So you’re implying you’re the Joker Mr. President?
June 19th, 2007 at 10:54 pmThe Republic of Stupidity,
June 19th, 2007 at 10:55 pmI may misspell since I type fast but I am not a traitor like you or other posters.
You guys can’t dispute my facts.
I’m out I have to go attack the Saudi run Republican sites.
I’ve humilated frauds like you and Jay “Jiahd” Randal.
Bye Traitors!
The Joker sez:
You guys can’t dispute my facts.
You haven’t posted any facts to dispute. Just the ramblings of a kid on a squishee bender.
June 19th, 2007 at 10:58 pmBoy there is no sense in attempting to read any of the comment threads at TP. You have one or two..in this case one…5 year old lunatic who everyone lets drive the discussion. Pretty sad.
June 19th, 2007 at 11:05 pmBye Traitors!
Comment by The Joker
Oooh… the Joker has… left… the building…
(actually, his mom needs her dress back… she’s gotta go to her second job… it’s not easy supporting your full grown son when all he wants to do is wear your dress, and sit around in front of a computer huffing Twinkies all day…)
June 19th, 2007 at 11:27 pmLOL Joker you only humiliated yourself on here.
June 19th, 2007 at 11:27 pmSo, Jay, how did it feel for you to be the target of a deranged mind? I felt strange, since I didn’t know what I had done to deserve his wrath other than post a comment. And just so you know, my friend, his “apology” to me meant nothing without an apology to you, as well.
June 19th, 2007 at 11:30 pmYou guys can’t dispute my facts.
Comment by The Joker
You can’t PROVE your supposed “facts”.
Try proving them, before assuming we would waste time disproving the rambling nonsense of a madman.
June 19th, 2007 at 11:41 pmWayne > I have been attacked by several deranged trolls on here, in the past, so it was water rolling off a duck’s back for me.
June 19th, 2007 at 11:49 pmWayne > I have been attacked by several deranged trolls on here, in the past, so it was water rolling off a duck’s back for me.
Comment by Jay Randal — June 19, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
Or as the late movie mogul, Sam Goldwyn said, “All this criticism is like ducks off my back.”
One of my personal favorites.
June 19th, 2007 at 11:52 pmOr as the late movie mogul, Sam Goldwyn said, “All this criticism is like ducks off my back.â€
One of my personal favorites.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Right, and don’t forget the immortal, “Gentlemen, you can count me out!”
June 20th, 2007 at 12:09 amThe Red Cross and the United Nations speaks of a serious humanitarian problem for Iraq civilians. Are they seeing things that the mainstream press and the managers of the Iraq war don’t see?
If there is a REFUGEE problem, are the numbers approaching that mass exodus of 1948? One news source from outside America reported that the exodus was approaching 1948 numbers.
You don’t hear much about civilian life in Iraq. Why is that? You do hear about the bombs in America’s mainstream press, but all the civilians seem to be sticking it out. Is that realistic? All the bombing and no REFUGEEs.
Iraq was described as CHAOS and still the Iraqi citizens stayed? Did Syria take in some Iraqi citizens? Would the Bush team talk about a humanitarian gesture by Syria?
It is likely that many Americans don’t believe the Bush teams reports about Iraq. And there is a well founded reason for that. It is unlikely that a General will stray too far from the Commander in Chief’s views.
June 20th, 2007 at 12:11 amI’ve got it figured out:
Reid last week argued that Petraeus’ early reports from Iraq indicate he is not “in touch with what’s going on in Baghdad.†Petraeus last week claimed life in Iraq is showing “astonishing signs of normalcy,†seemingly ignoring a Pentagon report which found violence in Iraq has remained “relatively unchanged†since the escalation took effect.
You know the military acronym, SNAFU: “Situation normal, all fouled up”.
I’m sure that when Petraeus said “astonishing signs of normalcy“, he was saying that things have been completely fouled up like this for years and that the everyday carnage there is just par for the course.
Cheers,
June 20th, 2007 at 1:10 am“Where we’re headed:
Today is the summer solstice, the day of greatest light. For the next 6 months, darkness will grow, both in the amount of night time, and upon the face of the land.”–Briseadh na Faire
Listen up, Chuckles.
THERE ARE TWO SUMMER SOLSTICES ON THE EARTH.
So stow your bullshit downer INACCURATE naturalistic philosophy.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:41 amComment by The Joker — June 19, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
No, actually I was discussing your unabated, never ending stupidity. The nerve you hit was the one that doesn’t tolerate stupidity. Is it your goal in life to be the dumbest person on the web? Or, do you really know what a fool your brain makes of you? I get the feeling you’re about 12 or 13 yrs old.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:54 am““unseemly and unfair.—
the neocon scumbag philosophy of freedom of speech…however, it’s only ““unseemly and unfair.— when anyone other than these douchebags exercise this right
June 20th, 2007 at 6:50 am““unseemly and unfair.â€â€
the neocon scumbag philosophy of freedom of speech…however, it’s only ““unseemly and unfair.â€â€ when anyone other than these douchebags exercise this right
Comment by deport neocon filth
As a conservative, I must take offense to that statement. I encourage everyone to voice their opinion… this website snd my being here is proof. If everyone agreed with what I had to say, this world would be boring. Besides, debate often leads to understanding. I don’t always have to agree with you (or you with me) but if I don’t ever hear your positions (or you mine) how will we ever understand one another?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:05 am“O’Hanlon claims that Sen. Reid “has also shown little interest as majority leader in helping devise a ‘Plan B’ that might replace the admittedly flailing strategy of the president, short of nearly complete and nearly immediate withdrawal.â€
Why should Reid have to come up with Plan B. Isn’t that the job of the “Commander Guy”? I didn’t see him criticizing Bush for not having a Plan B. Also, it seems that the only Plan B he would accept would be continuing on in the way we are going now. The Iraq Study Group came up with a Plan B, but Bush ignored it. This joker is nothing other than another Bush Poodle.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:16 ambye, bye
June 20th, 2007 at 1:39 pmRight, and don’t forget the immortal, “Gentlemen, you can count me out!â€
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 20, 2007 @ 12:09 am
Perhaps my memory is tricking me, but I thought that one was “Gentlemen, include me out.” “Count” me out is how it’s normally said.
June 20th, 2007 at 7:01 pm