Wuuld like to see some discussion to help reconcile while two federal courts have different views on whether Habeas is or is not permitted. Burdn on DC Court to show the Richmond Appeals court got it wrong.

If there is no habeas right, how is the uS government going to show that it allows prisoners to challenge abusive detentions:
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2005/08/enemy-combatant-detained-in-military.php

The legal results do not appear to be consistent with the notion of written law, the right to challenge Geneva violations, especially when the US President decides to ignore Geneva.

That was not the one I was thinking of – but it is a great quote. Here’s mine. Thanks to cinnamonape on Firedoglake – I was having trouble finding it.

Winston Churchill on Habeas Corpus
“…the great principle of habeas corpus and trial by jury, which are the supreme protection invented by the British people for ordinary individuals against the state. The power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him judgement by his peers for an indefinite period, is in the highest degree odious, and is the foundation of all totalitarian governments.”

“It is only when extreme danger to the state can be pleaded that this power may be temporarily assumed by the executive, and even so its working must be interpreted with the utmost vigilance by a free parliament…”

“Nothing can be more abhorrent to democracy. This is really the test of civilisation.”

[Winston Churchill in a minute about the Mosley family to the Home Secretary, 21 November 1943]

And finally:

“The power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him judgement by his peers for an indefinite period, is in the highest degree odious, and is the foundation of all totalitarian governments.” – Winston Churchill

I’m adding your from the Iron Curtain speech to my archive.

Put the spotlight on them: champions of torture; champions of warrantless wiretaps; champions of suspension of basic rights; champions of abuse of power protected by secrecy; ruler…NOT servants…of the people.

Let’s remove the dignity they claim…their “legitimacy”...and let them be exposed…fully. They need to be challenged at every turn for what they do. The press won’t do it. Our elected officials won’t do it. WE THE PEOPLE must do it.

Boycott, ignore and denounce their press conferences, statements, studies, etc. We can easily humble the powerful by losing interest in them…and showing them contempt when we occasionally lift our heads to hear the propaganda they spout.

I fear for this country. There is no way the Bush Crime family is going to let loose of their power. Bush is going to invade Iran, declare a public emergency and disband Congress. He will then stop the election in 08 and declare himself Dictator of the United States of America.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/062007A.shtml

I hope that TP will more closely track these crucial issues in the future — habeus, MCA, Padilla — these are among the greatest crises we face today. I fear that restoration of the constitution will not come so easily given the extent of our descent into fascism.

Thanks TP, for finally covering the habeas corpus issue — now that it’s dead.

Comment by had enough — June 20, 2007 @ 10:18 pm

it should be july 6th, many people will be on vaca that week, the july 4th is wednesday, and we should celebrate by striking on the birthday of the president who has done nothing but vacationed the past six years

Comment by W. Clements

Well it certainly get didn’t get across the circle-jerk going on over at the talk radio thread…

Not.

Assh*les.

Comment by shane

True, and if I’m not mistaken, it was shaved too… brrrrr… that’s just a little TOO much information, isn’t it?

Hey, everybody, LOOK! isn’t that Paris Hilton having sex w/ a Dobermann in the bushes?

Comment by shane

Ture, but is it that Bigger Bang we’re all looking for?

Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

Well from what I heard … it was verrrry scarrrry.

some do need the warning or special occasion….seriously, I think this may work… folks are putting time and effort into this plan… if the masses participate think what the message could bring. We have nothing to lose and maybe a lot to gain.

Comment by had enough — June 20, 2007 @ 10:18 pm

Ok, but I don’t need a special occasion to do nothing for an hour.

:P