REPORT: The Right Wing Domination Of Talk Radio And How To End It
REPORT: The Right Wing Domination Of Talk Radio And How To End It
The Center for American Progress and Free Press today released the first-of-its-kind statistical analysis of the political make-up of talk radio in the United States. It confirms that talk radio, one of the most widely used media formats in America, is dominated almost exclusively by conservatives.
The new report — entitled “The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio” — raises serious questions about whether the companies licensed to broadcast over the public radio airwaves are serving the listening needs of all Americans.
While progressive talk is making inroads on commercial stations, right-wing talk reigns supreme on America’s airwaves. Some key findings:
– In the spring of 2007, of the 257 news/talk stations owned by the top five commercial station owners, 91 percent of the total weekday talk radio programming was conservative, and only 9 percent was progressive.
– Each weekday, 2,570 hours and 15 minutes of conservative talk are broadcast on these stations compared to 254 hours of progressive talk — 10 times as much conservative talk as progressive talk.
– 76 percent of the news/talk programming in the top 10 radio markets is conservative, while 24 percent is progressive.
Two common myths are frequently offered to explain the imbalance of talk radio: 1) the 1987 repeal of the Fairness Doctrine (which required broadcasters to devote airtime to contrasting views), and 2) simple consumer demand. Each of these fails to adequately explain the root cause of the problem. The report explains:
Our conclusion is that the gap between conservative and progressive talk radio is the result of multiple structural problems in the U.S. regulatory system, particularly the complete breakdown of the public trustee concept of broadcast, the elimination of clear public interest requirements for broadcasting, and the relaxation of ownership rules including the requirement of local participation in management. [...]
Ultimately, these results suggest that increasing ownership diversity, both in terms of the race/ethnicity and gender of owners, as well as the number of independent local owners, will lead to more diverse programming, more choices for listeners, and more owners who are responsive to their local communities and serve the public interest.
Along with other ideas, the report recommends that national radio ownership not be allowed to exceed 5 percent of the total number of AM and FM broadcast stations, and local ownership should not exceed more than 10 percent of the total commercial radio stations in a given market.
Read the full report here.
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"Our conclusion is that the gap between conservative and progressive talk radio is the result of multiple structural problems in the U.S. regulatory system, etc."
In other words, it's a rigged game.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:13 pmAnnouncing The Acronym For The New American Century: PALDTNTBCOAFTESR
June 20th, 2007 at 2:14 pm("Politicians Are Like Diapers. They Need To Be Changed Often And For The Exact Same Reason") Link to an excellent speech by RFK jr. on the privatization of our government through the illegal deregulation of our media.
there's no conspiracy at work here. programmers would put on a talking fish if they thought it would get ratings. talk radio listeners want to hear conservative talkers. how do we know this? they get ratings, liberals don't.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:16 pmWell, duh...
June 20th, 2007 at 2:16 pmAlong with other ideas, the report recommends that national radio ownership not be allowed to exceed 5 percent of the total number of AM and FM broadcast stations, and local ownership should not exceed more than 10 percent of the total commercial radio stations in a given market.
So what about the other 85% of the market? Dead air?
June 20th, 2007 at 2:17 pmIf you sell the FCC to your friends, then you get what you pay for! We can see with this and other graphic representations how to explain even the most complicated issue to america's heartland. with the farm report, but forget the tornado warning. no longer required by law. no requirement of having an EWS to let folks know that trouble is coming. You can't warn a pre recorded show about something happening now, it would throw off the timing of the show and the advertisers would get upset. that's why it is canned.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:17 pmI would like to quote from Dan Hicks:
"Canned Music, Canned Music, playing on the radio
Canned Music, Canned music, without a dime it doesn't go....
and so it goes
the best way to end it is a completely different path - close the FCC!!
All it does is make it so difficult and so expensive to broadcast that the only ones who can afford to do it are the mega-corporations.
Sound familiar?
Since the FCC started "regulating" we've only had the media consolidated more and more every single year.
Working great, isn't it....
The solution is not more power, but rather, more freedom.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:18 pm"How to Make People More Responsible"
http://www.populistamerica.com/how_to_make_people_more_responsible
Can’t compete in the market so you want the government to force your views to people. Nice.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:20 pmthere’s no conspiracy at work here. programmers would put on a talking fish if they thought it would get ratings. talk radio listeners want to hear conservative talkers. how do we know this? they get ratings, liberals don’t.
Comment by Noahm — June 20, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
Wrong, Noahm. That's a popular "common sense" misconception that doesn't always hold true in the real world. There are many examples all across the country of liberal talk programs and/or whole station formats that did well with advertisers and got very good ratings, but were dumped in favor of lesser-performing formats, often into the face of direct competition in the markets.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:22 pmDoes anyone really believe liberals would even entertain this renewed passion for the fairness doctrine if talk radio were overwhelmingly liberal? It just strikes me as so transparently opportunistic and unprincipled. If a conservative were to argue that the state should get involved in making Hollywood, or the biggest newspapers, or the broadcast news networks, or leading museums, publishing houses, or universities less liberal, liberals would justifiably scream bloody murder about censorship and propaganda.
So, linking to a Jonah Goldberg post demonstrates the "myth" of the effects of the demise of the Fairness Doctrine? Weak, Faiz. Now I know why TP never endorses a renewed Fairness Doctrine - it conflicts with TP's agenda.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:22 pmCan’t compete in the market so you want the government to force your views to people. Nice.
Comment by Kevin — June 20, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
Remember that the next time you want to bitch about the "liberal media", Kevin.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:23 pmtalk radio listeners want to hear conservative talkers. how do we know this? they get ratings, liberals don’t.
Comment by Noahm
Please don't tell me you sincerely believe that big a % of the country actually wants to listen to a shrill sociopath like Michael Weiner over and over again.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:23 pmCan’t compete in the market so you want the government to force your views to people. Nice.
Comment by Kevin
No, it's called airing dissenting points of view - something Righties are terrified of!
June 20th, 2007 at 2:24 pmRemember that the next time you want to bitch about the “liberal mediaâ€, Kevin.
Comment by mikey r — June 20, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
I don’t need to wine to the government about it. The market takes care of it. That’s why Fox has the best ratings.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:26 pmthere’s no conspiracy at work here. programmers would put on a talking fish if they thought it would get ratings. talk radio listeners want to hear conservative talkers. how do we know this? they get ratings, liberals don’t.
Comment by Noahm — June 20, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
And the fact that you think this is about ratings is your first problem.
Real news doesn't make money. Therefore ratings do not matter one iota. You would know that if you work with newspapers, magazines, radio and TV like I do.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:27 pmI don’t need to wine to the government about it. The market takes care of it. That’s why Fox has the best ratings.
Comment by Kevin — June 20, 2007 @ 2:26 pm
Real news doesn't make money, so ratings don't matter.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:28 pmCan’t compete in the market so you want the government to force your views to people. Nice.
Comment by Kevin — June 20, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
They are called PUBLIC AIRWAVES for a reason dumb fu*k.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:29 pmWho wants to listen to "America Sucks" all day? Liberals are shrill, weak minded and predictable. That makes them death on radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:29 pmSo what about the other 85% of the market? Dead air?
Comment by squegeebooo — June 20, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
No, other owners. Come on, you aren't that stupid.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:29 pmLiberals are on the radio, its called NPR.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:30 pmCan we finally stop whining about the 'liberal' media?
June 20th, 2007 at 2:30 pmRethugs are likely to see this as interference with free enterprise. Don't let them forget who owns the airwaves and grants the license for their use. They, of course, will claim "entitlement". Freekin' Welfare Queens.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:31 pmRamboTroll reports:
Thinkprogress.org needs "diversity" to be 90% "progressive" views and the other 10% being highly-regulated, "non-insensitive" conservative views.
Our records indicate the Demogarza party needing a full ouster before that one constitutional amendment is politicized any further.
It's the "Rainbow-Push" coalition, only this time a push on Amendment #2.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:31 pmWho wants to listen to “America Sucks†all day? Liberals are shrill, weak minded and predictable. That makes them death on radio.
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
And who wants to listen to a bunch of gas bags talk abotu attacking other countries, but won't go fight themselves? A bunch of 28%ers. Who all listen to the same exact thing. You are a bunch of brain washed zombies who think you are bad asses, but in reality are a bunch of blubbering pussies. Pussy.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:31 pmLiberals are on the radio, its called NPR.
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 2:30 pm
Wrong, NPR has been conservatized under Bush also. Get you fu*king facts straight.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:32 pmComment by RamboTroll — June 20, 2007 @ 2:31 pm
Did this idiot post anything in English?
June 20th, 2007 at 2:34 pmRoboTroll further reports:
Point in case: Airhead America's demise is a strong indicator that the left-ings don't have much of an economic clout in the radio industry.
Principals of Economics...*Liberal stomach churns*
June 20th, 2007 at 2:36 pmAirAmerica tried to push lefty views on radio. It failed because radio isn't a good means of talking a message based on feelings and emotions. Logic and Common Sense play better on the radio which means conservative views win. TV does a way better job for the lefties as idea's based 100% on emotions play better.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:36 pmBreak UP Big Media
Democracy requires de-centralized information sources.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:37 pm.
Comment by RamboTroll — June 20, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
Does dumb fu*k know that the word demise means dead. I listen to Air America every morning, so it can't be dead. Dumb fu*king idiot trolls just make sh!t up.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:38 pmThis message has been brought to you as a public service by the good people at NeoFacistica. We don't think America sucks, but we want to destroy it anyway. Urging you to say one thing, but do the opposite.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:38 pmSpudge_Boy
No, other owners. Come on, you aren’t that stupid.
What other owners?
National Broadcast companies can only own 5%
Local broadcast companies can only own 10%
That leaves a gap of quite a bit, even if there's a legal difference between regional companies and national, or regional and local (not sure which they would be closer too) So it seems to me they are arguing for public broadcast companies to get a large % of the airways, or for those sections to go silent.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:39 pmIt is widely known that the MSM is liberal biased, and talk radio is conservative biased. I dont understand why the liberal want to remove the ability for conservatives to gather and talk via the airwaves... it is not like the MSM outlets would EVER consider giving non-biased reports or equal airtime to both sides of an issue... not with the 20 second spots that give you the "headlines". Instead of a Fascist movement hell bent on shutting the opposition up, let's let sleeping dogs lie... if Air America wants more airtime, broadcast to where the liberals are listening, i.e. the MUSIC CHANNELS.
Oh, and Spudge Boy... why resort to name calling. Very basic conversation ability is all that you are showing. One step above grunting and scratching yourself are comments like "...dumb fu*k". Let's keep it both positive and intelligent.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:39 pmThese people really influence the outcome of votes in some cases.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:39 pmI just want one liberal voice.
We're all assuming people like to listen to radio they agree with. Maybe I'm the exception, but I enjoy radio that is extreme, the polar opposite to my views, and largely a caricature of the opinions it puts forth - which is to say, I listen to conservative talk radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:41 pmLogic and Common Sense play better on the radio which means conservative views win.
Name one logical conservative or one that has common sense.
Here I will give you an example:
Common sense told anybody, with common sense, that served in the military before March of 2003 that sending 145,000 troops to do what 600,000 troops could do in 1991 was a bad idea. All of the conservative radio show talking heads thought it would be a great idea and some of them still think it was a good idea.
Now you tell me who has common sense.
Nevermind I know your answer, idiot.
Your problem is that you have no common sense, so you don't have any idea what the fu*k it is.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:42 pmThat leaves a gap of quite a bit, even if there’s a legal difference between regional companies and national, or regional and local (not sure which they would be closer too) So it seems to me they are arguing for public broadcast companies to get a large % of the airways, or for those sections to go silent.
Comment by squegeebooo — June 20, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
No they aren't and I am not going to argue your baseless blather.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:43 pmRamboTroll updates:
Our records indicate that the word 'diversity' by the left has been long exposed as a sham-word for 'complete takeover' and 'total elimination.'
RamboTroll Reporting Section (tm). Remaining Lefties Preserved.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:44 pmSpudge... clean up tha language... or get back into the cave, man! What happened to intelligent dialogue?
June 20th, 2007 at 2:44 pmI'm on board with whoever it was that said it earlier: Something has got the Neocon Rethugs really scared. Must be indictments coming down, or something similar. Guess they're trying to do with numbers what they couldn't acheive with their propaganda/pseudoideology. These guys are coming out of the woodwork. Better call Tom Delay or Dale Gribble.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:44 pmOh please, we Liberals need to stop crying about this. We control television media, the BBC just came out with a self-report to see if their news was biased and they came to the conclusion that it was, that it was biased towards the Liberals. As they put it, the fault is do to the fact that in the BBC there is a group think mentality since everyone that works there is a Liberal.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/18_06_07impartialitybbc.pdf
stop you whinning and crying. I tried to blame Al Gore's Presidential loss on Limbaugh and it didn't work.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:44 pmSpudge… clean up tha language…
Go ahead and tell that to your kids. The sh!t that comes out of the right wigers is just as offensive as cuss words are to you. So, you make them stop first and I would be happy to. But, since that won't happen, fu*k them and the horses they road in on.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:46 pmYou folks aren't big on 'free speech' or 'free-markets' are you?
Sad little socialists.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:46 pmRamboTroll reports:
(Correction: Air America is circling the drain, but is on life support. It was bought some time by a couple of limosine liberals. Its remaining viewership includes 'Spudge Boy' and a few other tye-dye maggots.)
June 20th, 2007 at 2:48 pmComment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
We won't stop until the propaganda machine is dismantled once and for all. And there is nothing you can do or say to stop the will of the people. The 72% of Americans that want America to remain the best country in the world will stop you and the rest of you NeoCons.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:49 pm(Correction: Air America is circling the drain, but is on life support. It was bought some time by a couple of limosine liberals. Its remaining viewership includes ‘Spudge Boy’ and a few other tye-dye maggots.)
Comment by RamboTroll — June 20, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
Correction: Air America was bought by a right wing real estate mogul who is turning it right wing as well. Get you facts straight moron.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:50 pmLiberals suck face the facts
June 20th, 2007 at 2:51 pmNoahm said: "talk radio listeners want to hear conservative talkers. how do we know this? they get ratings, liberals don’t."
And they get really good rating when no listener has a choice! Funny thing our local Air-America station is extemely popular. First time in my 50 years that i've ever even listened to AM radio. If programmers would really put on a fish if it got ratings then how do you explain Glenn Beck? I know he's cable and the topic here is talk radio, but i think his situation is a perfect example of programmres putting on conservatives no matter how badly they suck at ratings.
I think if they put a camera on Randy Rhodes for an hour a night instead of Beck their ratings would more than double. But we all know that would never happen even as an experiment. A week of Randy is just too scary. What if she was so bold as to say some GOPer candidate didn't smell delicious, or is it smell manly, or whatever sort of scent you GOPer guys really like to smell in a male presidential candidate. I guess the number of male-scent-fetish listeners might drop off a bit. But that would be more than compensated for by the number of listeners that want to hear about what liberals consider more important issues -- you know those things FOX hates to talk about like Iraq, health care, the shrinking middle class.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:51 pmSpudge -
there is a difference between opposing view (which only a fascist would find so offensive so as to demand it's halting), and blatantly offensive and vulgar language.
The fact that you resort to blatantly offensive language, and upon confrontation it gets worse, I have to surmise that you are an uneducated individual with little or no place in a civilized conversation. Your opinion means absolutely nothing at this point, as you show no level of intelligence.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:51 pm71% of the Country doesn't like you Leftists neither!
June 20th, 2007 at 2:52 pmLet's try Air America II for the 40 or so morons here at TP.
Remember the "New Mainstream" are anything but mainstream.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:52 pmRamboTroll reports:
Scaredom is not pertinent to the side with the listeners and business saavy, Mr. Smafdy. You must be truly scared in order to have to resort to your biggy government to have your unpopular proganda forced on the majority of those who don't want to hear it.
RamboTroll News Section (tm). We are so scuurd.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:52 pmComment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
Go fu*k yourself concern troll.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:53 pmRegulating free radio seems like fodder for conservatives to call liberals a bunch of communists.
Yeah, conservative radio is dominating the mainstream, but it does not affect the political process. Otherwise President Bush wouldn't have a minus 250% approval rating, and the Dems wouldn't be controlling both houses.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:53 pmLiberals suck face the facts
Comment by Chris — June 20, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
And since 72% of Americans that live in the United Staes of America agree with us, then you must be talking about South Americans.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:54 pmHey you guys have all the media on your side. Just ask Bill Moyers the antichrist
June 20th, 2007 at 2:54 pmWhy am I forced to help pay for Lefty NPR?
...How would you patchouli skunks feel if your taxes helped to pay Rush Limbaugh?
June 20th, 2007 at 2:54 pmLet’s try Air America II for the 40 or so morons here at TP.
Remember the “New Mainstream†are anything but mainstream.
Comment by Flaco — June 20, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Read the posts Air America II is already in full swing. You will like it. It is going conservative, now that it is owned by a conservative.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:55 pmComment by Spudge_Boy
RamboTroll wasn't made aware that Hugo Chavez blogged here at TP.
If you impose government-demographical control of the media, you lose the listening base. Simple as that.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:56 pmthere is a difference between opposing view (which only a fascist would find so offensive so as to demand it’s halting), and blatantly offensive and vulgar language.
Oh yeah concern troll, I never said it could be stopped. I said you go ahead and make them and I will. But, using common sense, you would know that they will never stop, so it is an empty request from me. You want to be a facist and make people halt, you go right ahead and while they aren't stopping. I will respond however the fu*k I want. Got it?
June 20th, 2007 at 2:57 pmSpudge_Boy,
Read This you 24%.
Congressional Job Approval Dips Again This Month
According to the June 11-14, 2007, survey, 24% of Americans approve and 71% disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job.
http://galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27937
June 20th, 2007 at 2:57 pmI am not even vaguely embarassed to admit that I am a liberal. I have listened to the attempts to establish a counter to right wing talk radio and find it really unappealing. I believe that unlike our conservative bretheren I would prefer to listen to primary sources such as CSPAN than be told what to think. It would appear that I lack the "follow the leader" gene that seems to infect most right wingers.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:58 pmGo fu*k yourself concern troll.
And since 72% of Americans that live in the United Staes of America agree with us, then you must be talking about South Americans.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
**Spudge - your facts are flawed, and you are retarded. 72% of America disagrees with Bush (including me), but 78% disagree with the LIBERAL CONTROLLED CONGRESS... I think that the nearly 80% of Americans agree that AMERICA IS SCREWED UP, by BOTH PARTIES. The problem is corruption at the highest level, not JUST BUSH... open your mind, brotha!
June 20th, 2007 at 2:58 pmIf you impose government-demographical control of the media, you lose the listening base. Simple as that.
Comment by RamboTroll — June 20, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
Good you people need less programming in your brainwashing.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:58 pmDid you mean to say, "Liberals suck face: the facts."
here's one: neocons suck Dick is my witness.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:58 pmSpudge_Boy,
June 20th, 2007 at 2:59 pmBoth The Republicans and Democrats are dislike by the american people.
We're tired of clowns like you and Bush serving yopur Islamic overlorfds.
We want a Free America!
Bloomberg 2008!
RamboTroll inquires:
"And since 72% of Americans that live in the United States of America agree with us......"
And from what poll would that figure be tallied?
June 20th, 2007 at 2:59 pmsmafdy,
June 20th, 2007 at 2:59 pmHow does it feel to be a 24%?
open your mind, brotha!
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
My mind is open. If you thin that I support the democrats, you need to come here more often. I have been posting here for years, not minutes like you. The biggest problem for Democrats in Washington IS THE DEMOCRATS IN WASHINGTON.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:00 pmsmafdy,
How does it feel to be a 24%?
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
You tell us. You are a 28%er.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:00 pmRamboTroll ,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:00 pmThe Democrats only have 24% support.
Notice the Islamic loving Leftists are ignoring this!
“And since 72% of Americans that live in the United States of America agree with us……â€
And from what poll would that figure be tallied?
Comment by RamboTroll — June 20, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Yeah, now that was THE stupidest question I have seen on these blogs in years.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:01 pmSpudge - you are an idiot. I never said that I am halting free speech... just requesting that you clean up your ignorant language...
June 20th, 2007 at 3:01 pmSteven M Nielson,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:01 pmYou're a real Patriot!
Americans are sick of bothe parties!
Bloomberg 2008!
Why am I forced to help pay for Lefty NPR?
…How would you patchouli skunks feel if your taxes helped to pay Rush Limbaugh?
Comment by Ringo — June 20, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
NPR hasn't been lefty in about 4 years. Take a listen, you'll love it.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:02 pm"Liberals suck face the facts..."
In the context of sucking face, aka passionately kissing, the facts:
I receive this as a compliment.
Neo-cons blow the farts.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:02 pmSpudge_Boy,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:02 pmHey what about the 71% that is against Congress?
Hmm?
Why're you avoiding this?
Hmmm?
mafdy,
How does it feel to be a 24%?
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Pretty good! And you?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:02 pmSpudge_Boy,
Both The Republicans and Democrats are dislike by the american people.
We’re tired of clowns like you and Bush serving yopur Islamic overlorfds.
We want a Free America!
Bloomberg 2008!
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
I don't serve any religion. Religion was made up to keep crazies and retards entertained and out of trouble.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:03 pmThere are some right-leaning sources of information such as the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Times, and the average American.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:04 pmSpudge - congratulations... so this is my first time on THIS site, but that in no way diminishes the fact that I TOO have been blogging for some time. I happened upon this site via another blog...
Just because you have been here longer does not mean that you have ANY bit of knowledge on anything...
most Americans agree taht both parties are screwed up... if you would open your little mind, you may see that it is bigger than JUST a screwed up president.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:04 pmRamboTroll ,
The Democrats only have 24% support.
Notice the Islamic loving Leftists are ignoring this!
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
Congress has that rating. Because the Democrats can't get anything done with the Republicans blocking everything. Just wait. You think America is filled with idiot, but it isn't. They will remember come 2008.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:05 pm"It is widely known that the MSM is liberal biased"
Read much? Start with What Liberal Media? and go from there. Also, it's apparent you don't watch TV either. The right wing bias is breathtaking and hard to miss.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:05 pmSpudge - congratulations… so this is my first time on THIS site, but that in no way diminishes the fact that I TOO have been blogging for some time. I happened upon this site via another blog…
And what does this have to do with you knowing anything about me?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:05 pmSpudge_Boy,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:06 pmYes you do.
Are a blind Muslim loving Democratic hack.
You ignore the fact the Democrats are unpopular too!
You are part of the 24% of Blind Leftards.
You're no different than the 28% of blind Bushbots!
Liberal bias of the mainstream media dates back to the Revolutionary War when the papers claimed the conflict was all about oil.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:06 pmKiki,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:06 pmThe Media is Pro-Muslim.
What world are you on!
most Americans agree taht both parties are screwed up… if you would open your little mind, you may see that it is bigger than JUST a screwed up president.
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
ANd when I said I posted here for a long time it was so that you would know that I have made my stance very clear and you would know that if you were a regular.
My stance is and has bee for longer than blogs have been around that Washington isn't made up of Blue Dems and Red Repubs. It is all an ugly purpleish color of Republocrats.
Now get off your high horse.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:07 pmJoker - Thanks! But I am voting for a change in the party before I abandon... after the primaries, we will see... I am considering cancelling my party affiliation if my party dogs me in the primaries!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:08 pmSpudge_Boy,
"Congress has that rating. Because the Democrats can’t get anything done with the Republicans blocking everything. Just wait. You think America is filled with idiot, but it isn’t. They will remember come 2008."
Yes in 2008 They will vote against both parties!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:08 pmYour a blind loyal Dhimmicrat hack!
24%!
"talk radio listeners want to hear conservative talkers. how do we know this? they get ratings, liberals don’t."
Not exactly. In most regions where Air America Radio broadcasts, they either beat the local conservative hosts or are pretty close in ratings. The problems with progressive talk on the radio is not listeners, it is advertisers. And who are most of the advertisers on radio? Corporations, of course. And who are most corporations owned by? Conservatives, of course. Now, where do you suppose they spend their money?
If there were enough corporations willing to advertise on progressive radio (a situation I suspect will change radically when the Democratic President takes office in 2009), and when there are an equal number of progressive stations, then and only then will you be able to say "people don't want to listen to Progressive talk radio". Right now you can't say that because, if there is not a progressive radio station to tune in to, then I guess people won't be listening, will they!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:08 pmIn cable news, CNN is left leaning while FOX News is right leaning. The leanings of MSNBC is unknown since no one watches it.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:08 pmYou ignore the fact the Democrats are unpopular too!
You are part of the 24% of Blind Leftards.
You’re no different than the 28% of blind Bushbots!
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Here, I will repeat what I posted in #82 for you, since you can't seem to read.
Congress has that rating. Because the Democrats can’t get anything done with the Republicans blocking everything. Just wait. You think America is filled with idiot, but it isn’t. They will remember come 2008.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:09 pmThen why did Err America go bankrupt?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:09 pmI am on no high horse... just trying to have an intelligent debate about this issue.
High horses aside, the problem lies in both camps, left and right, and this country is being torn abpart by one side or the other pulling for absolute power.
THAT is the problem... and vulgar language! :)
June 20th, 2007 at 3:09 pmIn Missoula Montana Air America had an affiliate that was stomping the conservative talkers. It was one of three stations that was sold to a company from Utah. The station changed formats and doesn't boast nearly the market share that it had with AAR. It keeps changing it's format trying to find something that works. It would seem that the format change had nothing to do with finding an audience.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:10 pmSteven M Nielson,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:10 pmI abondoned my party after I discovered Foreigners took control.
It's over man.
Both Republicans and Democrats are controlled by Foreign interests that I will not name.
I belive that those on the Right should vote Libertarian and those on the Left should vote Green.
Let's have a real Center-Right, Center-Left alternative!
In cable news, CNN is left leaning while FOX News is right leaning. The leanings of MSNBC is unknown since no one watches it.
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
So, you think Glenn Beck is left leaning? You are a moron. CNN hasn't been left leaning in a long time. That is why Ted Turner said selling CNN was the biggest mistake he made in his entire life.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:10 pmComment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
We won’t stop until the propaganda machine is dismantled once and for all. And there is nothing you can do or say to stop the will of the people. The 72% of Americans that want America to remain the best country in the world will stop you and the rest of you NeoCons.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
Nice, you want to silence anyone that disagrees with you. Nice nazi tactics buddy.
Why don't you create radio stations of your own, with liberal ideology and have them compete in the arean of ideas, in the free market.
Oh wait....that's right, we did that, Air America and it failed miserably!!!
So, you fail in the radio markert, people are not tunning in, and then what you want to do is not keep on competing, but rather silence anyone that you disagree with.
nice, but we all know that we Liberals are not about diversity, about being open minded, about being tolerant, about accepting and listening to those we disagree with. We are all about ramming down the throat of everyone our ideology and what we believe is right.
Spudge_Boy and Smufdady, you both love to ignore the fact that the Democreatic Led Congress has a lower approval rating than our President.
typical intellectual dishonesty. Ignore the facts that prove you wrong.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:12 pmAnd who are most of the advertisers on radio? Corporations, of course. And who are most corporations owned by? Conservatives, of course. Now, where do you suppose they spend their money?
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So, tell the lefties to either (a) start advertising - there ARE leftist companies!, or (b) get off welfare, start a corporation, and advertise...
June 20th, 2007 at 3:12 pmThen why did Err America go bankrupt?
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
They didn't go bankrupt. They filed Chapter 11 and were pulled out by aright wing real estate mogul in Chicago. Catch up.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:12 pmSteven M Nielson sez:
Well, SMN, you forfeited your right to request "intelligent debate" when you tried to sell the old "liberal media" canard.
Sorry...
June 20th, 2007 at 3:13 pmSpudge_Boy,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:13 pmYou are blinded by loyalty to your corrupt Party.
Like a true Cultist you don't see the truth.
Keep drinkling Kool Aid!
In 2008 Both Parties will be swept out!
CNN hasn't been left leaning since this morning.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:14 pm"Nice, you want to silence anyone that disagrees with you. Nice nazi tactics buddy."
I didn't say silence anybody, you did. I said stop your propaganda machine. So I guess you like propaganda.
"Spudge_Boy and Smufdady, you both love to ignore the fact that the Democreatic Led Congress has a lower approval rating than our President."
Thanks to the Republicans.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:14 pmThe base of the Democratic party is thought to be angry, drunken dwarves, but they may in fact be gnomes.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:14 pmSpudge_Boy,
You are blinded by loyalty to your corrupt Party.
Like a true Cultist you don’t see the truth.
Keep drinkling Kool Aid!
In 2008 Both Parties will be swept out!
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
I don't have a praty.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:14 pmSupdge_Boy,
71% of the Country doesn't want you Socilaist state either!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:15 pmThey want Freedom.
Your party is bankrupt and is for loser just like the neocon.
You are no different than Neo-Cons!
You are Blind and dumb!
High horses aside, the problem lies in both camps, left and right, and this country is being torn abpart by one side or the other pulling for absolute power.
THAT is the problem… and vulgar language! :)
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
Look we have the same take on Washington. If you don't like my cussing, well, sorry. I will not change. "I am mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore."
June 20th, 2007 at 3:15 pmREPORT: The Right Wing Domination Of Talk Radio And How To End It
**sniff-sniff**The wafting odor of progressive cens*rship permeates the air. Face it - if conservative radio was as as bad as "progressive" talk, conservative radio would be broke and down the tubes, too. Whatever happened to Jim Hightower, Mario Cuomo, etc. - you remember those folks who were going to show conservative media to the woodshed? Note to Progs: IF people want to listen to you - they can....But what is it about ProgRadio that they cannot get and keep advertisers (you know, those frivolous people who pay the bills and want the "rubes" to buy their stuff?)
Seriously, what do you think we do, rig car radios so the channel can't be changed and threaten bodily harm if our "minions" don't listen. If you live in an area that is dominated by "revolting" righties on the radio, step up to a radio with more than one band width and tune in to Oldies, Heavy Metal, Hip-Hop....whatever. Maybe you think we shut down the opposition - ooops(!!) that's something Leftard Hugo Chavez does.
Hint to Prog programming "gurus" - shrill, whiny progressivism doesn't sell. Ever listen to Democracy NOW! or another popular snoozecast, Pacifica Radio???
June 20th, 2007 at 3:16 pmAny Republican, idiotic (oops, just repeated myself) trolls who argue that radio should be treated as a "free market" have no idea about bandwidth limitations and the fact that the U.S. airwaves are considered a public resource. There is no free market when the government controls the rights to use the resource.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:16 pmMonkey -
No... the MSM is overwhelmingly left... read the above link to the BBC where they did a self audit and determined that they were left...
Anyone want to debate this?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:16 pmMany Democrats intensely hate Bush because it's easier than confronting the irrelevancy of their ideas. It’s funny to dump a bucket of cold water on them and hear them blame Haliburton.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:16 pmTo me this problem could be solved with some common sense. Right-wingers: quit lying on our public-owned airwaves. If you make a statement that is patently false, make a correction within 72 hours and you're off the hook. If no correction is made, then you get a $200,000 fine per lie told.
Likewise, progressive radio would be held to this same standard. What are you afraid of right-wingers?
- Tom
June 20th, 2007 at 3:16 pmIn cable news, CNN is left leaning while FOX News is right leaning. The leanings of MSNBC is unknown since no one watches it.
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
So, you think Glenn Beck is left leaning? You are a moron. CNN hasn’t been left leaning in a long time. That is why Ted Turner said selling CNN was the biggest mistake he made in his entire life.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
are you kidding me? they have one host that is a right winger, and he doesn't even come out on CNN, but the less watched Headlines CNN, and you claim CNN is not Liberal?
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! my friend, your brain is pure and utter shit.
here is a clue for you, CNN is Liberal, too bad you love denying the facts.
typical liberal wacko.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:16 pmRamboTroll responds to 'The Joker':
Liberals and their "world poverty" stance. Here's how it works: are the tents which terrorists sleep in sturdy enough? Enough rations and sharp pencils to map out the next attack? They must have the proper nutrition to keep their brain juices flowing.
Oh, and did we mention 'Diversity?' Diversity. Diversity. Diversity. Diversity. That word now is officially contaminated.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:17 pm"Can’t compete in the market so you want the government to force your views to people. Nice.
Comment by Kevin "
So, Kevin, please tell me how progressives are supposed to "compete in the market" when 90% of our radio stations are owned by large corporations like Clear Channel and those stations refuse to run Progressive talk radio. What are we supposed to do, start our own renegade 10 watt radio stations?
If there was an equal opportunity to have progressive or conservative talk shows in all markets, then and only then could you say whether or not progressive talk radio can compete. But, you also have to throw the advertisers into the mix. At this time they don't want to advertise on progressive talk radio because they are corporations and don't view progressives as sympathetic to their corporate greed. But I do think that will change when the Democrats take over the government in 2009. The corporations will go where the power is. They are not stupid.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:17 pm"71% of the Country doesn’t want you Socilaist state either!"
One more thing that America agrees with me on. No SOcialist, no Fascists, no Democrats and no Republicans. Our current governmetn as it stands is totally corrupt. Everything revolves around money and not what is best for the country and it's people. Welcome to my side of the arguement.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:17 pmLiberals and their “world poverty†stance. Here’s how it works: are the tents which terrorists sleep in sturdy enough? Enough rations and sharp pencils to map out the next attack? They must have the proper nutrition to keep their brain juices flowing.
Oh, and did we mention ‘Diversity?’ Diversity. Diversity. Diversity. Diversity. That word now is officially contaminated.
Comment by RamboTroll — June 20, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
Dumb fu*k, it is Bush that is arming the insuregents, not the "liberals." as you would like to pretend.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:18 pmSpudge_Boy,
You are blinded by loyalty to your corrupt Party.
Like a true Cultist you don’t see the truth.
Keep drinkling Kool Aid!
In 2008 Both Parties will be swept out!
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
I don’t have a praty.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
yes, I use to say the same thing, then I ran for the nomination of the Presidency as a Democrat.
retard, dumb ass, you are but a simple tool of mine, a blind Democratic voter. You do have a party, you are just too stupid to realize it, my tool.
I love tools like you.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:18 pm#111 Then what airlines do you want to put out of business too?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:19 pm"Can’t compete in the market so you want the government to force your views to people. Nice.
Comment by Kevin — June 20, 2007 @ 2:20 pm"
RIGHT!!!!
That's like creating a new OS for a computer and failing because MS has all of the market and applies pressure on their customers to use their product and not yours....
So you are a failure because YOU cannot compete in the market.......
Here is a better example:
You decide that you no longer want to shop at store X because they provide crappy service to you. You start looking around for another store that is not related to store X, but after searching for months you only find 2 out of hundreds. Unfortunately YOU cannot shop at these other stores because they are not in your area.
Now is it right that YOU are forced to shop at a store that you don't want to??? Is it fair that this is the ONLY store that provides the things you actually need? The only reason that this is the case is because THEY bought all the other stores out so that they could controll the market......
Now is this what YOU consider "free market"????
This is what RADIO has become...... Large funded Republican parties buy up these stations and DICTATE what we have to listen to, even though they are suppose to be there for the PUBLIC!!!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:19 pmThank you Center for American Progress. You have nailed another important subject once again. You are great and this is why I contrrbute to your cause
June 20th, 2007 at 3:20 pm#114 Let's apply that to Think Progress as well and it will be out of business before Saturday.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:20 pmEmpty-headed, Conservative radio is only popular because the audience is made up of people who have time to listen to the radio all day, namely:
* truckers
June 20th, 2007 at 3:20 pm* the unemployed
* retired people living in trailer homes
* hillbillies
To me this problem could be solved with some common sense. Right-wingers: quit lying on our public-owned airwaves. If you make a statement that is patently false, make a correction within 72 hours and you’re off the hook. If no correction is made, then you get a $200,000 fine per lie told.
Likewise, progressive radio would be held to this same standard. What are you afraid of right-wingers?
- Tom
Comment by TomR — June 20, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
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And WHO, by tell, is going to determine what is a lie or what is truth... the radio talk shows are OPINIONS... if you want to talk about lies, talk to Murtha on the issue of the Marines at Haditha. Turns out he told a LOT of lies! (Murtha - DEMOCRAT)
June 20th, 2007 at 3:21 pmAs a casual observation... from a broadcast professional... the domination of right wing talk radio is not because of any background deals, it's not because left wing voices are being silenced (witness Err America) it's because the American people simply don't want to listen to it. They don't buy what the leftists are selling. It's really just that simple. All the "reports" in the world are going to change that one fact.
It seems the only way that you can get people to listen to you, is to force them to. Which is what this is all about, here.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:21 pmCleveland had a liberal talk station for about 6 months before it went off the air for yet another damn sports talk station, 4 in this market of that sort. I sorely miss the liberal talk.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:22 pmI think part of the problem is human nature. It is easier for conservatives, they are intolerant and hate filled and sadly one thing that is very clear is that pandering to the darkest of human natures almost always wins. We need only look at the sucess of republican's and christian right to see that.
It's a lot easier to say I hate "insert anything here" i am against it than to say I might not like it but it's a free country go for it.
Democrats will often visit maternity wards and shake their fists angrily at all those who escaped the wrath of choice.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:22 pmNo Pardon -
and the reason that no one listens to Liberal Radio is because the welfare food stamps don't cover radio purchases?
don't paint conservatives as redneck hicks... that is just ignorant!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:23 pm"Then why did Err America go bankrupt?
Comment by Frank J"
Go back and read my prior post Frankie. You might learn something. Air America went bankrupt because they were having problems finding advertisers. Most corporations don't want to advertise on progressive radio because they know that the progressives are not sympathetic to their corporate greed. But that will change after the 2008 election.
But, I do find it amusing that a lot of conservatives are advertising on progressive radio these days. Recently Glenn Beck ran ads on Air America and some right wing website was also running ads. Don't think they had much success with their ads, though.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:23 pmhere is a clue for you, CNN is Liberal, too bad you love denying the facts.
typical liberal wacko.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
Here is more of the failed common sense of you people.
If I am a liberal and I don't think CNN is liberal, then how are as a conservative going to tell me CNN is liberal?
If CNN covers nothing from a liberal point of view and none of the liberals watch it, then how can it be liberal?
Explain those two things.
Really, you want to have a discussion, let's do it.
Answer the question of how you think you know what is liberal and are going to tell a liberal what his favorite liberal programs should be.
That is like me telling you what your favorite color is or what your favorite food is.
You can't just point at something and say "That is liberal" while the liberals are saying "That is not liberal"
It makes CNN a nothing station that will go by the wayside, because the conservatives think it is liberal and the liberals know it is not.
Bye bye CNN.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:23 pmKatie,
But I do think that will change when the Democrats take over the Government in 2009. The corporations will go where the power is. They are not stupid.
I hate top break it to you but.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:23 pmNeither Republicans or Democrats will win in 2008!
Independents of both the Right and Left will win!
Bloomberg will win it all.
America will be free then Bush, Clinton, Pelosi and Reid will go on trail for treachery to America!
Liberals simply need to catch up. One thing I would like to see is a radio show, and/or a website that is strictly dedicated to catching Republicans lying on the radio. There is loads of content out there every day, and to have a single source where the rest of us could go to see these lies debunked would be awesome.
Anybody want to finance me?
Phylo out.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:24 pmDemocrats will often visit maternity wards and shake their fists angrily at all those who escaped the wrath of choice.
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
How would you know with all of the time you devote to playing red rocket with your dog.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:24 pm"Then what airlines do you want to put out of business too?
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 3:19 pm"
What in GOD's name does that have to do with RADIO????
Do they have a LICENSE hanging in the cockpit??? Do they have to provide DETAILED reports to the govt. about WHAT PUBLIC SERVICE they have done and how????? Do they have to have their license renewed every 4 or so years??????
The only thing in common is the fact that Pilots and DJ's MUST have a license.....
But that is where the similarities end....
June 20th, 2007 at 3:24 pmSpudge_Boy,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:24 pmCNN is Pro-Muslims.
Katie - Liberals have $$$ too... have Gore, or Clintons Millions, or someone fund the station... I KNOW that Heinz would love to advertise...
June 20th, 2007 at 3:24 pmRamboTroll responds:
Comment by No Pardon for Treason #124
We consider that to be typical hate-speech. And good of you to bash truckers, since they deliver the goods you eventually consume for your own survival.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:25 pm#91 - "In most regions where Air America Radio broadcasts, they either beat the local conservative hosts or are pretty close in ratings."
Comment by K*ty
Are you always so whiny?? You don't host a Progtard radio program do you?
"Beat the local conservative hosts..."??? How does ErrAmerica do against syndicated national hosts?? BTW - Corporations are usually owned by their stockholders. Here's a thought - buy a few shares of stock and form a coalition of Progtard influence. Psssst.....You've heard of Progressive Insurance? (Peter Lewis doesn't vote Repub.) Ask yourself why Left Corporations advertise "with the enemy". (Hint: they know where the listeners are and want to sell their insurance or movies.... or whatever.) All those Leftard companies that advertise in the vast right wing media are YOUR problem......that - and finding decent programming......
June 20th, 2007 at 3:25 pmLiberals hate people who are not open minded. Open minded is defined as thinking just like they think (otherwise you're evil).
June 20th, 2007 at 3:26 pmit’s because the American people simply don’t want to listen to it. They don’t buy what the leftists are selling.
Too bad, 3500 soldiers would still be alive if Americans "bought what lefties are selling"
June 20th, 2007 at 3:26 pmNice, you want to silence anyone that disagrees with you. Nice nazi tactics buddy.â€
I didn’t say silence anybody, you did. I said stop your propaganda machine. So I guess you like propaganda.
“Spudge_Boy and Smufdady, you both love to ignore the fact that the Democreatic Led Congress has a lower approval rating than our President.â€
Thanks to the Republicans.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Thanks to the Republicans? Good Liberal, you have been taught well, and you follow instructions well.
Don't take responsability for your actions, blame others.
the Democrats are in the tanks, along with the Republicans in approval ratings because neither party is listening to their base, and to the American people as a whole.
I said it, it would be terrible for the Democrats to win in 2006, why? because now they own the Iraq War as much as President Bush. it might not be the real picture, but it is what people perceived, what the American people see.
Now both Republicans and Democrats own the Iraq War and anything bad that is perceived by the American people.
this should make for very interesting elections in 2008.
Anyway Spudge_boy, stop being my tool, and learn to take responsability for your actions.
Democrats have a lower approval rating than Bush thanks to them and not to the Republicans.
stop being a blind partisan hack.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:26 pm#129. No, it's true. On average, Liberals are more highly educated than Conservatives. Simple fact. That's why you guys don't care about science or facts, just fart jokes from Larry the Cable Guy.
Same reason the "red states" get more money from the government than they pay in. See how simple it is? Liberals actually contribute to the growth of the United States; Conservatives drag it down.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:27 pmI'm surprised the California would have such an imblance, especially San Francisco.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:27 pmIt's funny how these Free speech Leftist want to ban Talk Radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:27 pmHow about let's ban this website, and Dailikos?
If you want to go regulating speech, you're Fascist.
You guys are Fascists!
Spudge_Boy,
CNN is Pro-Muslims.
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
And I hate CNN and never watch it, so I don't care if they support the Moonies.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:28 pmLiberals love to spend other people's money. If you see a liberal, it's okay to take his money because it probably wasn't his anyway.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:28 pmGood luck with the debate... look slike you guys won't get anywhere with it... when it comes down to it, both parties are corrupt, power corrupts, and the removal of free speech is fascist... everything else is opinion on here...
back to my day... have a good one!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:29 pmNo Pardon for Treason.,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:29 pmIf that's the case why do you guys complain about tax cuts and claim you support working people when you're a bunch of Rich clowns?
It’s funny how these Free speech Leftist want to ban Talk Radio.
Nobody ever said that. You made it up in your dried out little brainwashed head.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:29 pmLiberals hate people who are not open minded. Open minded is defined as thinking just like they think (otherwise you’re evil).
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
how very true. open minded for a liberal is anyone and everyone that agrees with them. If you don't agree with a Liberal, you are a closed minded fool.
and diversity for a Liberal is a White male, White female, Latino, Latina, Black female, Black male, Asian male, Asian female, etc, etc, etc who are all Liberal.
this is diversity for us Liberals.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:29 pm#149. I don't know why it's the case the Conservatives don't contribute more than they receive from the Government. You tell me -- you're the one draining the coffers.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:30 pmRight wing radio is a menace to our society. The hosts of the various talk shows are, with a few exceptions, engaging in daily demagogy and deception. They tell their listeners that the new bill is an amnesty when it is no such thing. They tell their audiences that lowering taxes for the rich is good for the poor. They also tell their audiences that the poor are getting the vast majority of the tax cuts. They tell their audiences that there really were ties between Iraq and al Queda and that we actually found the WMDs. They tell their audiences that Valerie Plame was not covert despite the fact that several people have testified under oath that she was. They tell their audiences that Joe Wilson is a liar when there is no evidence of any lie. They tell their audience that Libby should go free because there was "no underlying crime". (What part of "obstruction of justice" do these people not understand?) They tell their audience that gas prices are spiking because the environmentalists won't let the oil companies build new refineries despite the fact that the oil companies themselves have been mothballing refineries. They tell their audiences it's okay for the President to wiretap the phones of American citizens without warrants despite the fact that there is a specific law on the books saying that he can't. They tell their audiences that the liberals are weak on terror because they don't think the president should be breaking the law. They tell their audiences that America has always been hated around the world (We've always been at war with East Asia) when the fact is, our popularity is about half of what it was before Bush took office. They also tell their audiences that this lack of popularity is actually a good thing; it's a sign of our nobility; it's good to have other countries fear us.
And then there's what they don't tell their audiences. Talk radio audiences don't know that Alberto Gonzales has been turning the justice system into a branch of the Republican party. They don't know that the White House has been circumventing laws about e-mail record keeping. They don't know that Republican congressmen are waaaay more corrupt then Democratic congressmen. They don't know that Valerie Plame was working undercover for a company called Brewster Jennings and had been overseas several times between 2002 and 2003. I could go on but I think you get the point.
Phylo out.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:30 pmoh, and "No pardon"... you are an idiot. Conservatives are not rednecks. I am a highly educated conservative, a scientist, and conservationist.
That is like me saying that all liberals are impovershed welfare babies with no hope but for the money being sucked out of the wealthy wallets in the form of taxeds for handouts......
Grow up brotha!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:31 pmAnyway Spudge_boy, stop being my tool, and learn to take responsability for your actions.
Democrats have a lower approval rating than Bush thanks to them and not to the Republicans.
stop being a blind partisan hack.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
You keep telling yourslef that about Congress and we will all see come 2008. You can keep repeating that it is the Democrats, but America isn't as stupid as you.
Dude, you are the troll here. You stop being a partisan hack.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:31 pmthere’s no conspiracy at work here. programmers would put on a talking fish if they thought it would get rating
We already have a talking fish; Lush Limpballs. He looks like one, sounds like one and acts like one.
THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE!!!!
This scares the Hell out of rightard talk show hosts. It may crimp their style on lies, slander, zero accountability if they actually had to allow both sides of an issue.
I listen, as someone else posted, to Rightard Radio to laugh. Yesterday Insannity was vivid with Skin Flute Snow for supporting BabyBush's immigration stance. It was hilarious! They were both talking over each other, as they learned on Pox News, and trying to make up talking points on the fly.
Folks, read the attached report. This isn't about which political side is best; it's about corporate control under the guise of deregulation.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:31 pmLiberals hate America and love more oppressed people... like evil dictators.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:31 pmoh, and “No pardonâ€â€¦ you are an idiot. Conservatives are not rednecks. I am a highly educated conservative, a scientist, and conservationist.
I knew you were a concern troll. I called it way back in post #53.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:32 pmWow! The trolls are in full throat today!
Losers...
June 20th, 2007 at 3:32 pm#91 - “In most regions where Air America Radio broadcasts, they either beat the local conservative hosts or are pretty close in ratings.â€
Where did you get your facts from?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:33 pmPudgy_boy,
the problem with you is that anything that doesn't agree with your extreme left wing views is propaganda.
so you want to stop anything and everything you consider propaganda.
or tell me do you think government should decide what is propaganda? or who decides, a Liberal wacko like you?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:33 pmProgtards whining about conservatives talk radio reminds me of the crappy carsthe USSR used to put out.....Progs figure if there's NOTHING else to listen to except them, maybe Mr. and Mrs. America will tune in.....What charming little fools!!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:33 pmBut, I do find it amusing that a lot of conservatives are advertising on progressive radio these days. Recently Glenn Beck ran ads on Air America and some right wing website was also running ads. Don’t think they had much success with their ads, though.
Comment by Katie — June 20, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
Katie, Glenn Beck is also on CNN. He's not a true conservative by definition and he does not tow the party line. He's recently said, like I have, that he's sick and tired of President Bush. He's more of a comedian with conservative political tendencies. He can actually be funny unlike Limburger or Sean Insanity. I know he is on conservative talk radio, but he's much less of a hate monger than the others. Watch his show some night and you'll see.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:34 pmLiberals come in two main varieties: intellectual and mental patient. You can only distinguish between the two by noting whether their jacket has sleeves.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:35 pmBut I do think that will change when the Democrats take over the Government in 2009. The corporations will go where the power is. They are not stupid.
I hate top break it to you but.
Neither Republicans or Democrats will win in 2008!
Independents of both the Right and Left will win!
Bloomberg will win it all.
America will be free then Bush, Clinton, Pelosi and Reid will go on trail for treachery to America!
Comment by The Joker
Kucinich is starting to come up in the polls. He IS the only candidate for single payer health care = eliminating the health insurance companies, running in '08. He has also proven to the masses with his voting record just where he stands. No, he is not pretty or smells of perfume, or has a huge election war chest from donations from corporations, but he is spot on the issues, gaining % points and I suspect maybe a grass roots effort can get this man elected.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:35 pm"They don’t buy what the leftists are selling. It’s really just that simple. All the “reports†in the world are going to change that one fact."
Well Mr. "broadcast professional". I'll buy your argument the day when there are an equal number of progressive talk shows to the number of conservative talk shows and the progressives have consistently lower ratings. Until that time, you are full of hot air. How do YOU know that Americans don't want to listen to progressive talk radio? A majority of Americans in this country do not have the ability to listen to talk radio because no radio stations in their area carry it.
And your theory that Americans don't believe in progressive ideas was blown out of the water by a recent survey that showed that a large majority of Americans support progressive values like single payer health plans, getting out of Iraq, stem cell research and many more. The myth that this country is more conservative than liberal is just that, a myth. Once the Democrats are in a position to not allow the Republics to steal another election, and the progressives are given a voice, it will be a very different world my friend. One that I am sure you will hate.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:35 pmComment by Crump's Brother
And your fellow "witty progressive" commentators have not even their usual loony capital to put forth. Even they have to grudgingly admit that "progressive" radio commentary blows, so out the thread-door they go.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:35 pm9 of the 10 states that get the most federal tax dollars and pay the least are red states. 8 of the 10 states that receive the fewest tax dollars and pay the most are blue states.
It's not your money - it's mine. Conservative states are freekin' welfare queens.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:36 pmAnyway Spudge_boy, stop being my tool, and learn to take responsability for your actions.
Democrats have a lower approval rating than Bush thanks to them and not to the Republicans.
stop being a blind partisan hack.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
You keep telling yourslef that about Congress and we will all see come 2008. You can keep repeating that it is the Democrats, but America isn’t as stupid as you.
Dude, you are the troll here. You stop being a partisan hack.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
are you this stupid, or do you play one here? if the American people honestly believed that it was only Republicans screwing up things, it would be Republicans with the bad approval rating, moron, i mean my tool, my fool.
go ahead, you keep on telling yourself that, and let us see come the 2008 election. Democrats know they are in trouble, Reid and Pelosi have defended their low approval rating by now claiming that maybe they should have never promised that they were going to end the Iraq War.
Ooooops, imagine that a politician lying to get elected.
get your blinders off, partisan hack. Get my d!ck out of your mouth and start thinking on your own. We don't keep promises and we use tools like you to spew out our propaganda.
thank you spudgy_boy.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:36 pmHint to Prog programming “gurus†- shrill, whiny progressivism doesn’t sell. Ever listen to Democracy NOW! or another popular snoozecast, Pacifica Radio???
Comment by varicose veinous
How long has Pacifica been on the air? Um, since 1946! Obviously, it's a disaster. If you're going to dribble your shrill whiny opinions on TP, at least get a fact or two correct on occasion.
Five radio stations and about 100 affiliates. Obviously, no one wants to listen.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:36 pmI already told you that I was new here, and there was no hiding that I am conservative. But does that make me an enemy. If you think so then you don't understand the political process... we are all brothers of the USA with differing opinions... I love that you guys have to label to try and put me down... I am unappoligettically conservative, but I love discussing issues in hopes of staying a well rounded citizen...
The difference is that you are more concerned with crushing opposition instead of discussing issues.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:36 pmI, as your god-like figure that you all worship, demand that you pay attention to me. Oh, my little tools. you are so easily led that I pretend to be the most beloved president of our time (even though she hasn't been elected yet) in order to make fun of all my little sheeple.
You all know that I'm not very smart, but you pay attention to me anyway. My own family doesn't even do that anymore, not since I got a DSL line in my basment.
Soo I implore you PAY ATTENTION TO ME or I promise I will go Chinese Embassy in serbia on you.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:36 pmHey, J-bird:
Conservatives come in two main varieties: clammy and slimy. You can only distinguish between the two by touching them (and no one wants to).
June 20th, 2007 at 3:38 pmDear Phydo - What part of the first Amendment do you not understand? Lets a$$ume you're correct and right wing radio IS lying about the Immigration Bill being an amnesty bill? (FYI - They are NOT lying - they are stating their opinion, which you seem determined to squelch. So what! Political speech is specifically protected - and the leftards decided to expand the Constitution and include stripper and porn......
June 20th, 2007 at 3:39 pmalright... enough bickering for me... I am really out this time... Cheers!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:39 pm"Where did you get your facts from?
Comment by Chris — June 20, 2007 @ 3:33 pm"
http://www.airamerica.com/node/657
Since last year, Air America Radio has grown from 25 affiliates to 67 stations nationwide.
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Los Angeles:
* 167 percent increase in P12+ Share Winter-Spring 2005 (0.3 to 0.8)
* (Mon – Sun 6a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 300 percent increase in P12+ Share Spring 2004-Spring 2005 (0.2 to 0.8)
* (Mon-Sun 6a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Washington D.C.:
* 33 percent increase in P12+ Share Winter-Spring 2005 (0.3 to 0.4)
* (Mon-Sun 6a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 300 percent increase in P12+ Share Spring 2004-Spring 2005 (0.1 to 0.4)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Phoenix:
* 38 percent increase in P12+ Share Winter-Spring 2005 (0.8 to 1.1)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 267 percent increase in P12+ Share Spring 2004-Spring 2005 (0.3 to 1.1)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Portland, Ore.:
* 19 percent increase in A25-54 Share Win-Spr 2005 (3.7 to 4.4).
* Rank went up from #10 to #6
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 36 percent increase in P12+ Share Win-Spr 2005 (3.3 to 4.5).
* Rank went up from #12 to #5
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Denver:
* 30 percent increase in P12+ AQH Win-Spr 2005 (4700 to 6100)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 25 percent increase in P12+ Share Win-Spr 2005 (1.6 to 2.0)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Cincinnati:
* 29 percent increase in A25-54 AQH Winter-Spring 2005 (700 to 900)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 17 percent increase in A25-54 Share Winter-Spring 2005 (0.6 to 0.7)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Honolulu:
* 13 percent increase in P12+ Cume Win-Spr 2005 (11100 to 12500)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Memphis:
* 150 percent increase in A25-54 AQH Win-Spr 2005 (200 to 500)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 150 percent increase in A25-54 Share Win-Spr 2005 (0.2 to 0.5)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Miami:
* 68 percent increase in P12+ AQH Winter-Spring 2005 (6600 to 11100)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 67 percent increase in P12+ Share Winter-Spring 2005 (1.2 to 2.0)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Highlights from Arbitron Spring 2005 Survey:
* Increase in cumulative listening audience jumped from 1.3 million to 3.1 million within one year.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:40 pm* 300 percent increase in L.A. in P12+ Share Spring 2004-Spring 2005
* 300 percent increase in Washington D.C. in P12+ Share Spring 2004-Spring 2005
* 267 percent increase in Phoenix in P12+ Share Spring 2004-Spring 2005
I've always figured that progressive talk radio doesn't do particularly well because progressives have better things to do with their lives than listen to AM radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:40 pm"Pudgy_boy,
the problem with you is that anything that doesn’t agree with your extreme left wing views is propaganda."
First of all, very origianl on the name. Much better than my 12 year old.
Second it is hard for you to label me liberal when I suport the death penalty and own a lot of weapons. I served in the military under Bush 1.
Sorry, I don't fit in your box.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:41 pm#163 - re: Glen Beck "I know he is on conservative talk radio, but he’s much less of a hate monger than the others. "
You must be listening to a different Glenn Beck than I have heard. If you think the following are not the words of a hate monger, I feel sorry for you:
Beck has called President Jimmy Carter a "waste of skin," Mexican immigrants "dirt bags" and "lawbreakers," Katrina victims "scumbags," Cindy Sheehan a "prostitute," and suggested using nuclear weapons against parts of the Middle East and Venezuela.
During a November 14, 2006, interview with Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), the first Muslim elected to Congress, Beck said to the congressman: "What I feel like saying is, 'Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies." On his shows, Beck repeatedly belittles the Muslim faith by mocking Muslim names and through actions such as "mark[ing] the death" of Al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi with a "Zarqawi bacon cake."
For more quotes from someone coachjason claims is not a hatemonger, go here: http://mediamatters.org/items/200601200013
June 20th, 2007 at 3:41 pmI already told you that I was new here, and there was no hiding that I am conservative. But does that make me an enemy. If you think so then you don’t understand the political process… we are all brothers of the USA with differing opinions… I love that you guys have to label to try and put me down… I am unappoligettically conservative, but I love discussing issues in hopes of staying a well rounded citizen…
The difference is that you are more concerned with crushing opposition instead of discussing issues.
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
Steven, of course to Liberals, you are the enemy, you must be destroyed. it is not thre radical muslims that are our enemies, it is not Iran, it is not N. Korea, it is not Cuba, it is not Venezuela, no, it is conservatives like you that must be stopped at all cost.
conservatives like you must be silenced, you must not get your ideology out.
how dare you think that we Liberals want to exchange ideas and have a meaninful, open minded, tolerant, exchange of ideas with you!
you insolent conservative, conservatives like you must be sent to a concentration camp for the mere fact of being a conservative!
die you conservative pig, die!!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:41 pmOr this....
Al Franken Whips Rush Limbaugh in Arbitron Ratings...
No doubt Air American Radio has been having its troubles as it seeks to establish itself. This has particularly come in the form of money. However Air America Radio has achieved great success in its first Arbitron Ratings... Al Franken has soundly trashed Rush Limbaugh among the most coveted demographics.
In New York during the time when Al Franken's show, "The O'Franken Factor" is broadcast in the same time slot as Rush Limbaugh , Franken beat Rush among 18-54 year olds.
From the Chicago Tribune...
in New York, where Air America still broadcasts over WLIB-1190 AM, the network beat Limbaugh's station, Disney-owned WABC, among both 25-to-54-year-olds and 18-to-34-year-olds during the 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. period. In the 25-to-54 demographic, WLIB garnered a 3.4 share to WABC's 3.1; among 18-to-34-year-olds, WLIB won sevenfold with a 2.9 share to WABC's 0.4.
In Chicago, Air America Radio was on only 28 days before a billing dispute knocked it off the air. Still, Franken turned in a very strong showing against Limbaugh. While on during its short time period on WNTD, WNTD went from a 0.1 percent share to a 3 percent share among 25 to 54 year olds. It stands to reason that should Air American find another broadcaster, they can continue their success in this market and continue to pull listeners from WLS-AM which airs Rush Limbaugh's show.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:42 pmCan't compete in the marketplace?
Let's have government shut down your opposition then.
That's the American way.
*barf*
June 20th, 2007 at 3:42 pmI already told you that I was new here, and there was no hiding that I am conservative. But does that make me an enemy. If you think so then you don’t understand the political process… we are all brothers of the USA with differing opinions… I love that you guys have to label to try and put me down… I am unappoligettically conservative, but I love discussing issues in hopes of staying a well rounded citizen…
The difference is that you are more concerned with crushing opposition instead of discussing issues.
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
Does that make you an enemy? No, Steven it doesn't. But if you stick around here and take in some of the wisdom your compatriots offer, you'll probably first be embarrassed for them and then soon after, you'llunderstand why there's such a combative attitude here. There are many liberal posters who will debate respectfully if shown respect. Unfortunately, few conservatives who are willing to show respect post here regularly. Welcome. I hope you stick around. We could use more like you.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:43 pmI am unappoligettically conservative, but I love discussing issues in hopes of staying a well rounded citizen…
The difference is that you are more concerned with crushing opposition instead of discussing issues.
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
The problem is that the first thing you wrote was an attack. Typical of conservative a$$holes.
Next time you want to discuss something, give that a try instead. Otherwise you will get more of the same.
And just so you know, there are plenty of conservatives that I discuss stuff with here. But they don't attack me first thing.
Got it.
or not
I don't care.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:43 pmDear Whiner Kate - Do you think Rush Limbaugh started out with 500+ stations? "A majority of Americans in this country do not have the ability to listen to talk radio because no radio stations in their area carry it." Waaaagh
June 20th, 2007 at 3:43 pmI thought that's why they have X-M and Sirius Radio, so deprived progs could tune in to ProgTalk whenever and wherever their envious little hearts desire....
yes spudge_boy, and I didn't cheat on my wife and it depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is.
stop lying to yourself, Mr. GI Joe. Cobra commander is not our real enemy and GI Joe was fake.
you are a dumb, ridiculous, pathetic Liberal. You and I both know it.
don't insult the superior intellect of your Democratic god, William Jefferson Clinton. Your IQ of 80 is a joke compared to my 180.
You are but a mere mortal, I am a god! or so I have been told by my sycophant left wing followers.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:44 pmCan’t compete in the marketplace?
Let’s have government shut down your opposition then.
That’s the American way.
*barf*
Comment by Toliver — June 20, 2007 @ 3:42 pm
Toliver, I must have missed it -- can you point out where someone suggested having "the government shut down the opposition"?
Thanks.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:45 pmI think it is about ratings. Conservatives need to be spoon-fed their opinions, and liberals can make up their own minds? Let 'em have their stupid pundits, I say.
Just as an aside, have you ever noticed that the overwhelming # of bloggers that chose the handle "______ pundit" are conservative?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:46 pm"The difference is that you are more concerned with crushing opposition instead of discussing issues."
Well Steven, if you want to discuss the issues, we are more than happy to do that with you. If you are not like the trolls on this site who are just here to say "Clinton did it" or to call us all "libtards", then welcome to Think Progress.
The problem is that most of the trolls on this site are here for one reason and one reason only. To push buttons and get a reaction. Unfortunately there are a lot of people on this site who like to make sport of playing with the trolls. It really kills this site and often kills threads for me. When I read 10 posts in a row that are nothing other than the trolls playing with the troll players, I give up and move on.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:46 pm171: I have been here for months under the same pretenses. Don't give up, there are level headed progressives here that will grab hold of your olive branch and take you to the common ground you're looking for. Just don't give up on them too quickly and don't get offended easily (God knows, some will try.). Blessings to you...
June 20th, 2007 at 3:47 pmJesus!.. I thought I accidentally stopped by Malkin's site, what with all the rightwing howler monkeys throwing their poo around.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:47 pmTP, you have a SERIOUS troll problem on your hands.
You are but a mere mortal, I am a god! or so I have been told by my sycophant left wing followers.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:44 pm
Dumb fu*k, I don't like Clinton, either one. Bill Clinton signed NAFTA and he sold missile guidence technology to China. So, if you think that I like Clinton, you are dead wrong.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:49 pm----
And WHO, by tell, is going to determine what is a lie or what is truth… the radio talk shows are OPINIONS… if you want to talk about lies, talk to Murtha on the issue of the Marines at Haditha. Turns out he told a LOT of lies! (Murtha - DEMOCRAT)
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
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Are you saying that you don't understand the difference between fact and opinion?
Man1: Everyone knows the moon is made of green cheese.
Man2: No way man, it's made out of rock.
"we report, you decide."
Actually, after some fact-checking, man1 would need to say, "I was wrong to make this claim. It turns out the moon is made out of rock."
See. This is simple.
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Republicans love to spend other people’s money. If you see a republican, it’s okay to take his money because it probably wasn’t his anyway.
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
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Corrected your comment for you Frank.
- Tom
June 20th, 2007 at 3:50 pmI’ve always figured that progressive talk radio doesn’t do particularly well because progressives have better things to do with their lives than listen to AM radio.
You nailed it, gummitch!
It also explains why Trolls like Violent Vagina, et al, are allowed to post here, unlike the Rightard sites.
The reason so many Trolls climbed up here today is that the news above scares the hell out of them.
They no more want 'fair & balanced' coverage than they want Kucinich for President.
If Rightards don't have an uneven playing field, they go home and get Daddy to straighten things out. (Corporate influence on legislation.)
June 20th, 2007 at 3:50 pmHell, they even have to change names...Jake=Frank J. , MA=Violent Vagina, Falco=Michael, Joker=Bush?(No one else could have such bad spelling & grammar!
Some of you sycophantic followers might wonder why I come here and post insults while pretending to be the most popular President of our time (even though she hasn't been elected yet).
Well, it's because I think I'm cleverer than the average fifth-grader, and when people I respect, like my dad or Mr. Thompson the gym teacher call me a "loser" or a "doofus" or a "moron" then it doubly hurts. So I figure it will make me feel better about myself if I insult someone else. I picked you guys. And I pretend to be a god to you, the most popular president of our time (even though she hasn't been elected yet) in order to make it hurt more. See how clever I am? Say I'm clever or I'll go Chinese Embassy on you.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:50 pmSpudge_Boy,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:51 pmYou're an Iranian agent.
You serve your master's party line!
The broadcasters don't own the radio spectrum, so thay can't just say what they want, willy-nilly. It's not even close to a free speech issue. If it was, a liberal would have to claim that their right to free speech was being violated by virtue of being locked out of the distribution channel by legal means. What we have here is more of an antitrust issue.
As a complete non sequitur, you're crazy as a shit-house mouse, and are well known hereabouts for flying off the handle - willy-nilly - with any old bullcrap.
So, there you go
June 20th, 2007 at 3:51 pmSpudge_Boy,
You’re an Iranian agent.
You serve your master’s party line!
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
Then where the fu*k is my paycheck. It is hard work (I guess) and I should get paid lots of money for doing......stuff.
You're a fu*king moron that needs medical attention.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:53 pmTP = Troll bait.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:53 pmKatie: You obviously have formed your opinion of Glenn Beck and he could walk on water and he'd still be an evil conservative to you. So I won't try... Regardless, you took many of his quotes out of context. He runs a comedy show with conservative political tendencies. But it's comedy. If you don't know a joke when you hear one, that's on you. It's too bad to because he's really quite funny.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:54 pmJesus!.. I thought I accidentally stopped by Malkin’s site, what with all the rightwing howler monkeys throwing their poo around.
TP, you have a SERIOUS troll problem on your hands.
Comment by Buck — June 20, 2007 @ 3:47 pm
yes, they do and we must silence them. How can the right wing be listened to? we can't allow their ideology to get out, to be heard. We must silence all Conservatives, we must, we must, we must!!!
It is the only way that we will keep on winning. We can't have conservatives running around and spewing the facts.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:54 pm"The broadcasters don’t own the radio spectrum, so thay can’t just say what they want, willy-nilly. It’s not even close to a free speech issue. If it was, a liberal would have to claim that their right to free speech was being violated by virtue of being locked out of the distribution channel by legal means. What we have here is more of an antitrust issue."
Exactly.
The American public owns the airwaves over the United Staes of America.
You would think a troll pretending to be a lawyer would know something about the law.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:54 pmTP = Troll bait.
Comment by smafdy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
Smafdy=Democratic party tool.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:55 pmIt is the only way that we will keep on winning. We can’t have conservatives running around and spewing the facts.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
We are winning without the needs for you idiots to be silenced. In fact, the more you talk, the more it helps us. You are too stupid to see that, but that would go back to you people not having any common sense.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:56 pmPresident Clinton = fu*king moron
June 20th, 2007 at 3:56 pm“The broadcasters don’t own the radio spectrum, so thay can’t just say what they want, willy-nilly. It’s not even close to a free speech issue. If it was, a liberal would have to claim that their right to free speech was being violated by virtue of being locked out of the distribution channel by legal means. What we have here is more of an antitrust issue.â€
Exactly.
The American public owns the airwaves over the United Staes of America.
You would think a troll pretending to be a lawyer would know something about the law.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
and who sold you this bunch of horse shit? If I own the air waves, how come AirAmerica hasn't paid me royalties for using MY AIR WAVES?!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:56 pmIt is widely known that the MSM is liberal biased, and talk radio is conservative biased.
So, tell the lefties to either (a) start advertising - there ARE leftist companies!, or (b) get off welfare, start a corporation, and advertise…
So, Steve, you want us to take you seriously, as someone who wants to debate with us, when your first post is a blatant lie. There is no way that the MSM media is liberal biased, since it is all owned by corporate media. And then you go on to insult us by implying that progressives live on welfare and are somehow able to get off welfare and start a corporation. I was willing to give you a chance, but it is apparent that you are just another Lemming Republic who couldn't recognize the truth if it hit them in the face.
And, BTW, the leftist (that alone gave you away as a lemming Republic) corporations do advertise on Air America. The problem is that there are many more right-wing corporations than there are leftist corporations.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:58 pmSAY I'M CLEVER YOU SYCOPHANTIC SHEEP!
SAY IT!
I KNOW WHAT "SYCHOPHANTIC" MEANS, SO DON'T MESS WITH ME!
June 20th, 2007 at 4:00 pm---------------------
Yes, please get rid of conservative radio so I can listen to a Progressive Gay Lesbian Feminist discuss celebrity news with homosexual callers.
And you know exactly who I'm talkin' about.
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June 20th, 2007 at 4:01 pmIt is the only way that we will keep on winning. We can’t have conservatives running around and spewing the facts.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
We are winning without the needs for you idiots to be silenced. In fact, the more you talk, the more it helps us. You are too stupid to see that, but that would go back to you people not having any common sense.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
wait spudge_boy, we? who are we? I thought you didn't belong to any party? sniff, sniff....I smell a partisan hack.
poor fool, I told you not to mess with my 180 IQ ,don't mess with me, the greatest President ever to walk on teh Oval office rug.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:01 pm# 207 Agreed, Katie. i gave Steve the benefit of the doubt, but it seems that he doesn't realize that the first rule of reasonable debate is to respect the truth, andthe second is to respect your opponent.
He appears to have the same dismissive attitude toward liberals that most conservatives I know project.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:02 pm"But it’s comedy. If you don’t know a joke when you hear one, that’s on you. It’s too bad to because he’s really quite funny.
Comment by coachjason"
Ask Keith Ellison how he liked Glenn Beck's "joke". If you think this man is a comedian and that they things he says are "jokes", I really pity you and the people who are close to you.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:03 pmand who sold you this bunch of horse shit? If I own the air waves, how come AirAmerica hasn’t paid me royalties for using MY AIR WAVES?!
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
Huh?
Wow, you just dropped down to complete fu*king idiot on the scale. You don't really think anybody needs to respond to this stupidity do you? How old are you that you don't know who ownes the public airwaves?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:04 pm"wait spudge_boy, we? who are we? I thought you didn’t belong to any party? sniff, sniff….I smell a partisan hack."
We are progressives. Hence why I post and Think PROGRESS. We knew there was a problem in Washington long before the real republicans figured out there was an issue and are now latching onto our PROGRESSIVE movement to fix WAshington.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:07 pmand who sold you this bunch of horse shit? If I own the air waves, how come AirAmerica hasn’t paid me royalties for using MY AIR WAVES?!
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
Huh?
Wow, you just dropped down to complete fu*king idiot on the scale. You don’t really think anybody needs to respond to this stupidity do you? How old are you that you don’t know who ownes the public airwaves?
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 4:04 pm
Oh pudgy_boy, so that is the best you got? my poor, retarded tool.
First you claim you aren't partisan, than you rant and rave how you and your party is winning all over the place.
second you claim that the public airwaves are owned by the public, yet you refuse to answer why if this is true, AirAmerica hasn't paid royalties to the american public for using the public's air waves.
poor, sad liberal tool. I love tools like you, tools like you put me into office in the 1990s, tools like you put our Democratic party in power in 2007. I love tools like you, so naive, so poorly educated, so dumb, so easy to manipulate little puppets like you.
please don't ever get an education or you will stop being a tool of mine.
by the way, get the Democratic d!ck our of your mouth, you will start sounding smart, intelligent and be coherent for once.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:08 pmTo "President Clinton" -- your remark that "Democrats have a lower approval rating than Bush" is quite a stretch. Yes, Congress does have a low approval rating lately -- mostly because we didn't elect ENOUGH Dems last November. So Reps don't like Congress because there are too many Dems in it, and the Dems don't like Congress because there aren't enough Dems to override the bonehead-in-chief's vetos. So it's not surprising that nobody's happy.
An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll conducted June 8 - 11 shows that 52% of American adults would prefer a Democrat for President, and only 31% would prefer a Republican. This doesn't sound like Democrats have a lower approval rating to me.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:08 pm“wait spudge_boy, we? who are we? I thought you didn’t belong to any party? sniff, sniff….I smell a partisan hack.â€
We are progressives. Hence why I post and Think PROGRESS. We knew there was a problem in Washington long before the real republicans figured out there was an issue and are now latching onto our PROGRESSIVE movement to fix WAshington.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
I think you made a mistake, you ment to say...."We are thinkers of lies. Hence why I post in Think Shit."
c'mon piece of human trash, get it straight, my mere mortal GI Joe. Man, don't you know you are speaking to a Democratic god? c'mon son, respect your supeiors and those that know more than you.
I William Jefferson Clinton am a god, and if this insulent rat, pudgy is getting otu of hand, I will go Chinese Embassy in Seriba on you.
Hey by the way, why do you run away from the Liberal label, why do you call a progressive?
If you are a proud Liberal, why change and use the word progressive? eh?
typical useful fool, i mean tool of the left wingers.
Love little puppets like you, my little pinochio.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:12 pmComment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
For your education...
http://www.freepress.net/content/whoownsairwaves
June 20th, 2007 at 4:12 pmKatie: You obviously have formed your opinion of Glenn Beck and he could walk on water and he’d still be an evil conservative to you. So I won’t try… Regardless, you took many of his quotes out of context. He runs a comedy show with conservative political tendencies. But it’s comedy. If you don’t know a joke when you hear one, that’s on you. It’s too bad to because he’s really quite funny.
Comment by coachjason — June 20, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
coachjason, you're giving it a try here, but please don't fall prey to the temptation to dismiss another's argument as easily as you did above.
Your concept of "comedy" alas differs from that of most liberals, and inded, that of most cultured humans the world over. What I mean by that is, typically, humor is effective when it's aimed at oneself or, at least at the powerful. Most people feel uneasy laughing at jokes made at the expense of, say, women who have lost their children in an unjust war, or minority groups who struggle for equality.
Blacks can make jokes about black culture that whites can't make for this reason. Blacks can also make jokes about whites and get away with it, because they're not coming at it from a position of power. But when the powerful (and, yes, a white male is in a default position of power in our culture) makes fun of someone from another group it seems very close to bullying. And anger isn't usually a very appealing tone of delivery, either.
That's why we don't find Glenn Beck's "humor" very funny. It's why we don't find Rush's comedy stylings very witty. And Ann Coulter's standup routine is not a big winner. (Also because, well, there's not much craft or wit in their "comedy" -- no insight, just insults).
June 20th, 2007 at 4:13 pmTP = Troll bait.
Comment by smafdy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
Smafdy=Democratic party tool.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
President Clinton = fu*king moron
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
Thanks for dealing with that, Spudge.
This is fun. How's this: The guy who posts here as President Clinton's mama = an assnugget in a dingleberry necklace.
Seriously, it's a troll-fest in here today, and there's so much crap being generated and flung around it's hard not to join in the fun.
Let's not forget the trolls are Neocon Facists bent on destroying America.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:14 pm"An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll conducted June 8 - 11 shows that 52% of American adults would prefer a Democrat for President, and only 31% would prefer a Republican. This doesn’t sound like Democrats have a lower approval rating to me."
Good information missmolly. I agree with you that the reason why Congress has such a low approval rating is because the Democrats can't get anything done. And they can't get anything done because the "It deserves a up or down vote" Republics are filibustering everything or Bush is vetoing it. I personally would like the Democrats to announce that they will no longer try to pass legislation and that they will spend the remainder of Bush's term investigating their crimes and prosecuting the people who committed those crimes.
But, the Democrats have an awful lot of Democrats mad at them for rolling over and playing dead in the fight with Bush to fund the troops. If they do that again, I predict that the Democratic party will be dead.
Personally I would love to see someone like Russ Feingold start a new party, the Progressive Party and then run for president. I would be the first in line to sign up.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:15 pmIf you are a proud Liberal, why change and use the word progressive? eh?
typical useful fool, i mean tool of the left wingers.
Love little puppets like you, my little pinochio.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
I am a progressives. Some of my stances are liberal, but some like the death penalty and owning guns would be conservative. But, I never call myself conservative, because most conservatives, like you, are complete idiots.
The fact that you post using President Clinton as your handle proves this. Idiot.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:16 pmsmafdy,
Tell me about it. How does a troll posting as President Clinton expect for anybody to take him seriously for one sec?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:17 pmYes, please get rid of conservative radio so I can listen to a Progressive Gay Lesbian Feminist discuss celebrity news with homosexual callers.
And you know exactly who I’m talkin’ about.
There you have it folks.... a fine example of a brain washed filthy idiot consumed by hate America right wing talk radio. Bring on the hate... you worthless idiots... it soon will completely destroy your dwindling party you stand for.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:17 pmComment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
For your education…
http://www.freepress.net/content/whoownsairwaves
Comment by erock — June 20, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Ok Erock, so why isn't AirAmerica paying me royalties for using my airwaves.
care to explain? I thought we Liberals were all about the people. Why doesn't AirAmerica pay the people, the public money for using the public's airwaves.
sounds to me that we Liberals want to have it both ways, eh?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:19 pmYou mean to tell me people still listen to broadcast radio?Why?All of them,save for a precious few,are owned by clear channel one or some other right wing support corporation and they constantly fill the airwaves with bullshit.Come on,just listen to that idiot Limpdick and you have a pretty good idea of what they all sound like;identical to one another.Wake up and listen to internet radio,no commercials no corporate spin and no fat ass,vicadon addicted,viagra popping assholes to put up with.I won't mention any names cause i don't want to sound like i'm attacking.Screw commercial radio and all of its idiot pundits!!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 4:21 pmIf you are a proud Liberal, why change and use the word progressive? eh?
typical useful fool, i mean tool of the left wingers.
Love little puppets like you, my little pinochio.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
I am a progressives. Some of my stances are liberal, but some like the death penalty and owning guns would be conservative. But, I never call myself conservative, because most conservatives, like you, are complete idiots.
The fact that you post using President Clinton as your handle proves this. Idiot.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
and you think you are being taken seriously, my mere little mortal, my puppet?
please son, I am William Jefferson Clinton, I am a Democratic go, I was President of the USA, I have raped and slept with more women than you can dream of, I am a god, and you are a poor little pieace of human garbage.
Actually, that is what I think of all those idiots that vote for me, pieces of garbage that are at my disposal to be used and abused by me.
So son, respect me, a god.
:)
June 20th, 2007 at 4:21 pmcare to explain? I thought we Liberals were all about the people. Why doesn’t AirAmerica pay the people, the public money for using the public’s airwaves.
sounds to me that we Liberals want to have it both ways, eh?
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
No, I don't care to explain. It was enough for me to make you look stupid.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:21 pmI for one will never waste my time listening to rightwing radio. Rightwing radio is nothing but a pack of lies. If the rightwing is so good then why do they have to lie so much? If they ever told the truth about their agenda the support for them would drop like a stone.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:24 pmDear Mr 'Sudo' Clinton.
Progress is what gave America an edge in technology and manufacturing. Progress is a dynamic society. Progress brought together many different groups to clean up the slums and the pollution left behind by the robber barons. Progress ended child labor. Porgress gave you an eight hour day and time with your family. Progress makes tall buidlings and creates much needed jobs. Progress sent man to the moon. Progress is what allows you to type over the great spaghetti God innertube.
As for this thread, I never listen to talk Radio, never have and probably never will. Let them have their static AM noise machine. AM is as dead as 8 track players.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:25 pmMy sole request to TP is to list the commenter at the top of their comment. If, for example, "President Clinton" was clearly identified at the top of its comment, I could more easily skip it. As it is, sometimes I actually read a few of the garbled words before I realize it's that particular idiot troll.
I'm asking politely.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:25 pm“An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll conducted June 8 - 11 shows that 52% of American adults would prefer a Democrat for President, and only 31% would prefer a Republican. This doesn’t sound like Democrats have a lower approval rating to me.â€
Good information missmolly. I agree with you that the reason why Congress has such a low approval rating is because the Democrats can’t get anything done. And they can’t get anything done because the “It deserves a up or down vote†Republics are filibustering everything or Bush is vetoing it. I personally would like the Democrats to announce that they will no longer try to pass legislation and that they will spend the remainder of Bush’s term investigating their crimes and prosecuting the people who committed those crimes.
But, the Democrats have an awful lot of Democrats mad at them for rolling over and playing dead in the fight with Bush to fund the troops. If they do that again, I predict that the Democratic party will be dead.
Personally I would love to see someone like Russ Feingold start a new party, the Progressive Party and then run for president. I would be the first in line to sign up.
Comment by Katie — June 20, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
While you are right, when you match Democratic Presidential candidates against Republican Presidential candidates, individuals like Guliani and Thompson win easy by 8 points or more.
so much for polls, eh?
never ceases to amaze me how we Liberals live and die by polls. sad, sad.
try to think on your own Katie....stop being a Democratic party puppet.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:26 pmOk Erock, so why isn’t AirAmerica paying me royalties for using my airwaves.
care to explain? I thought we Liberals were all about the people. Why doesn’t AirAmerica pay the people, the public money for using the public’s airwaves.
sounds to me that we Liberals want to have it both ways, eh?
Comment by President Clinton
What is this garbage? Another hate America troll bending the subject, which you f@krs always do - asking impossible questions in order to avoid the REAL issues. I will say one thing for you... YOU ALL DO WALK IN LOCK together.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:27 pm"care to explain? I thought we Liberals were all about the people. Why doesn’t AirAmerica pay the people, the public money for using the public’s airwaves."
The money goes to the American People's government, which is funding your war in Iraq. Jeez you are dumb.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:27 pm"Actually, that is what I think of all those idiots that vote for me,"
You mean "voted" as in past tense and that wouldn't be me.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:28 pmThe repuke trolls are being particularly inbred today.
They must be agitated about Fox News condemning reichwing talk radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:28 pmcare to explain? I thought we Liberals were all about the people. Why doesn’t AirAmerica pay the people, the public money for using the public’s airwaves. -MPC
I Don't need no stinking poor quality Amplitude Modulation!
June 20th, 2007 at 4:28 pmcare to explain? I thought we Liberals were all about the people. Why doesn’t AirAmerica pay the people, the public money for using the public’s airwaves.
sounds to me that we Liberals want to have it both ways, eh?
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
No, I don’t care to explain. It was enough for me to make you look stupid.
Comment by erock — June 20, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
Look stupid? so you believe everythign you read, eh? so a little website tells you that the public owns the airwaves, and you like an idiot, like a stupid person believed the website, eh?
Once again, any takers? If we the public own the airwaves, how come AirAmerica hasn't paid royalties to the public? I thought we Liberals were for the people?
c'mon erock, be honest, the only people looking stupid are my Liberals puppets, that's you, pudgy_boy, and the rest of my tools.
you do realize that all you are doing is spewing out propaganda that we the Democratic party have ordered you to spew out, right?
thanks for being such a willing puppet.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:29 pm"Comment by gummitch — June 20, 2007 @ 4:25 pm"
I think what would even be better is a "ignore" button by the posters name.
Once you select it, all their posts vanish...
Like what Netscape does.....
June 20th, 2007 at 4:29 pmI don't listen to any propagandameister. I want information, not propaganda.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:29 pm"Good information missmolly. I agree with you that the reason why Congress has such a low approval rating is because the Democrats can’t get anything done. And they can’t get anything done because the “It deserves a up or down vote†Republics are filibustering everything or Bush is vetoing it. I personally would like the Democrats to announce that they will no longer try to pass legislation and that they will spend the remainder of Bush’s term investigating their crimes and prosecuting the people who committed those crimes."
Interesting that this is exactly what I said, but when I said it, you disagreed with me.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:30 pmtry to think on your own Katie….stop being a Democratic party puppet.
Comment by President Clinton
Said the lemming as he prepared to dive off the cliff hoping others would follow suit.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:31 pmOnce again, any takers? If we the public own the airwaves, how come AirAmerica hasn’t paid royalties to the public? I thought we Liberals were for the people?
I ALREADY FU*KING TOLD YOU: THE MONEY GOES TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'S GOVERNMENT WHO IN TURN IS USING IT FOR YOUR WAR IN IRAQ. IDIOT.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:31 pmthanks for being such a willing puppet.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
All your questions answered...and more!!!
http://www.cspanjunkies.org/who-owns-the-airwaves/
June 20th, 2007 at 4:33 pmRepublics are filibustering everything or Bush is vetoing it.
Bush's veto of on the stem cell issue means nothing really. If you look into the lobbyists you will find that many 'conservative' companies are actually lobbying to have this vetoed so private industry can and is doing the stem cell research. It's a big fat ruse and a total non-issue.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:34 pmWill the phrase "liberal media" ever be put to rest, since it is entirely bereft of fact?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:36 pmThe media hasn't been liberal in 30 years. Academia tends to be liberal because thinking people tend to view things in terms other than black and white, hence the troglodytes of the world, sneeringly label them "liberal." The media today is owned and operated by big business, corporate friends of Bush, whose method of maintaining their accustomed profit level is to pander to the least common denominator, dissolve international bureaus, focus the news on the superficial, report the he-said, she-said and call it journalism. That kind of journalism serves only to keep the public at opposites based upon the hyperbole of the news spinners and the public's gross lack of information and avenues to get the necessary information to form informed opinions.
The news is all about profits now - and profits based on the least amount of effort from the fewest number of qualified people --- gotta keep those fat cats at the top happy. To hell with the public.
The only way to end it is to START LISTENING to progressive talk show hosts. Jeesh. Radio is MONEY oriented. If there is NO MONEY in airing someone, it won't happen. So far conservative talk shows rake in the dough. Progressive shows are not doing as good. Limiting stations won't do any good, changing the habits of listeners is the only solution. If people want to listen to conservatives, they are going to rake in the dough.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:36 pmOnce again, any takers? If we the public own the airwaves, how come AirAmerica hasn’t paid royalties to the public?
Okay I'll bite. =) Do you get paid for the airwaves used for wireless internet? Cellphones? Wireless doorbell ringers? Ham Radio?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:36 pmSpudge_Boy
That freak does not care where the money goes... that idiot and others like it put those questions out there to trip up the conversation hoping that question can not be answered therefore in that freaks mind it won. Answer that, there will be another question they really do not care about. This is all they have for defense. Pathetic.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:37 pmPublic Airwaves = Public Highways
Radio Station License = Drivers License
Do you get paid for people driving on the freeway?
Idiot.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:39 pmYes, please get rid of conservative radio so I can listen to a Progressive Gay Lesbian Feminist discuss celebrity news with homosexual callers.
And you know exactly who I’m talkin’ about.
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Comment by jonny — June 20, 2007 @ 4:01 pm
Uhh actaully I have no idea who you are talking about.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:39 pmWhat about FM radio? How about walkie talkies? How about wireless cameras and security systems? Television signals? What about GPS? What about aircraft instruments and sattelite aircraft cell phones? What about regular cell phones?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:40 pm"The only way to end it is to START LISTENING to progressive talk show hosts. Jeesh. Radio is MONEY oriented. If there is NO MONEY in airing someone, it won’t happen. So far conservative talk shows rake in the dough. Progressive shows are not doing as good. Limiting stations won’t do any good, changing the habits of listeners is the only solution. If people want to listen to conservatives, they are going to rake in the dough.
Comment by Douglas G. — June 20, 2007 @ 4:36 pm"
That is NOT the problem......
It's getting a radio station. When MOST of the stations are onwed by a Conservative/Republican minded corporation, then it is IMPOSSIBLE to get progressive talk on it.
It's not about doing away with anything..... It's about putting things into a FAIR manner.
All progressives want is a FAIR opportunity and a way to COUNTER the information that the right is spreading as fact, when it is nothing but lies.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:41 pmOk Erock, so why isn’t AirAmerica paying me royalties for using my airwaves.
care to explain? I thought we Liberals were all about the people. Why doesn’t AirAmerica pay the people, the public money for using the public’s airwaves.
sounds to me that we Liberals want to have it both ways, eh?
Comment by President Clinton
What is this garbage? Another hate America troll bending the subject, which you f@krs always do - asking impossible questions in order to avoid the REAL issues. I will say one thing for you… YOU ALL DO WALK IN LOCK together.
Comment by had enough — June 20, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
Sorry had enough, I only see you, my puppets walking lock step.
We Liberals hate anyone that doesn't agree with our Liberal ideology.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:44 pmStupid troll has no clue how the FCC works.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:46 pmThis is hardly surprising.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:46 pmThe main reason Rush went to the airwaves is because he couldn't muster an audience on televised broadcasts. He wasn't visually popular.
Let the Green Acre conservatives have their telephone pole antiquity and Mr Haney politics
Hey I kinda like that...Mr Haney politics.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:46 pmPublic Airwaves = Public Highways
Radio Station License = Drivers License
Do you get paid for people driving on the freeway?
Idiot.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
Actually, I do. :) thanks for asking my little 80 IQ buddy. Gosh pudgy, how you know?
are you honestly claiming now that our highways are ours too? so why do we all pay tolls to use most of them?
and the ones that are supposedly free are paid through gasoline taxes?
c'mon my 80 IQ buddy, you can't be this slow and dumb. You are just playing, right? you are playing to be a stupid person, c'mon be honest now.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:47 pmStupid troll has no clue how liberals work, either.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:48 pm250 comments on this thread so far.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:50 pmRush's OxyContin zombies must be in full on whiner mode.
Sorry had enough, I only see you, my puppets walking lock step. -MPC
Puppets don't walk, puppets have a GOP hand up their derrier. Much like Haggard or Foley or Gannon, holding hands, as they trample thru the rose garden
June 20th, 2007 at 4:51 pmStupid troll has no clue how highway funding works, either.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:51 pmare you honestly claiming now that our highways are ours too? so why do we all pay tolls to use most of them?
WE don't. I don't know where the fu*k you live, but in California, it is my tax dollars that pay for the PUBLIC highways that I own a part of.
ANd the only one here that looks stupid is the idiot that doesn't know who owns the road and the airwaves. Idiot.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:52 pmare you honestly claiming now that our highways are ours too? so why do we all pay tolls to use most of them.
We pay tolls so they can be paid off quicker. Dunno where you live but Texas has no state tax. The tollways,once paid off, have the toll booths removed.
Why do you pay for parking at a sports stadium paid for by city bonds?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:54 pmComment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:47 pm
Just out of curiosity, who do you think owns the airwaves and the roads?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:54 pm"My sole request to TP is to list the commenter at the top of their comment. If, for example, “President Clinton†was clearly identified at the top of its comment, I could more easily skip it."
I agree. I vote for that idea. For a while I was able to recognize it's posts by the multiple use of exclamation points, but it doesn't do that any longer. I really wish that someone would come up with blogging software that would allow a real "kill-file". It would make reading this site so much more enjoyable if I didn't have to wade through the trolls and the people who like to feed the trolls.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:56 pmI've noticed that conservatard radio is big because conservatards listen to it. It's a reinforcement thing, like church, that libs don't need or want. I have conversations with libs and they talk way outside the box. Conversations with tards end up being regurgitated Limpbaugh or mAnn-speak. No surprise.
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AirAmerica tried to push lefty views on radio. It failed because radio isn’t a good means of talking a message based on feelings and emotions. Logic and Common Sense play better on the radio which means conservative views win. TV does a way better job for the lefties as idea’s based 100% on emotions play better.
Comment by Retard_Retard — June 20, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
Um... Terry Shiavo, abortion, nationalism, gay marriage, Arab boogeymen, etc. Yep, logic and common sense right there.
Repuglican axis of evil: rich, rednecked and retarded.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:56 pmMarie laments, "The media hasn’t been liberal in 30 years." You don't listen to ErrAmerica, DemoNOW! NPR? You don't read the NYT, the Boston Globe, The SF Chronicle? You poor thing - no wonder you think the media is conservative!! And no critique of conservative talk radio would be complete without the required bashing of EVIL corporations.
IF liberal radio could draw an audience (that's a BIIIIG "IF") advertisers would be flocking to Progtard Programming. Frankly, it's a poor business decision to advertise in a place where the ratings are so poor. (And when we get the %% increases thrown at us from Arbitron, you'll note that Progs discuss % increases. FYI - for you math-tards....If I have 4 people listening and 2 more tune in i may have increased my listenership 50%.....but it's still only 6 people.)
"Academia tends to be liberal because thinking people tend to view things in terms other than black and white," This Holy Grail of the Left fogets that most Leftards would LOVE great salaries for 9 months worth of work....and have you ever met people who know their benefit packages BETTER than a liberal?? These are the folks who come to work to take a break....
June 20th, 2007 at 4:56 pmare you honestly claiming now that our highways are ours too? so why do we all pay tolls to use most of them?
WE don’t. I don’t know where the fu*k you live, but in California, it is my tax dollars that pay for the PUBLIC highways that I own a part of.
ANd the only one here that looks stupid is the idiot that doesn’t know who owns the road and the airwaves. Idiot.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
So, when the roads of California were built, did the government of California call you up or your ancestors and ask you which roads and where you wanted them?
hey, i guess by your standards, we all own the military, right? our taxes pay for the military, thus we own them, right?
we also own the police, firefighters, etc, etc, etc.
keep on living in naive land boy.
I own you boy, I and my party own you. You are a good Democratic tool, please don't ever stop, ok?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:57 pmI’ve noticed that conservatard radio is big because conservatards listen to it. It’s a reinforcement thing, like church, that libs don’t need or want. I have conversations with libs and they talk way outside the box. Conversations with tards end up being regurgitated Limpbaugh or mAnn-speak. No surprise.
#
AirAmerica tried to push lefty views on radio. It failed because radio isn’t a good means of talking a message based on feelings and emotions. Logic and Common Sense play better on the radio which means conservative views win. TV does a way better job for the lefties as idea’s based 100% on emotions play better.
Comment by Retard_Retard — June 20, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
Um… Terry Shiavo, abortion, nationalism, gay marriage, Arab boogeymen, etc. Yep, logic and common sense right there.
Repuglican axis of evil: rich, rednecked and retarded.
Comment by jason — June 20, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
yeap, just like me!!! I am rich, a redneck and retarded!!!! Yes, I william jefferson Clinton am rich, a redneck and retarded. So why do people claim that I am a Democratic god?
how about Reid, the man is a Mormon, a redneck and a retard too? wait...too many Democratic politicians fit this.
Jason, stop calling Democrats retards, you insulent fool! you shall pay for your insults towards our party members. You dumb tool, my puppet.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:59 pmI once lived in Oklahoma they had a state tax and horrible roadways.
Texas has no state tax and much better roadways. The Bush tollway (aint that a kicker MPC?) is quite modern (nobody calls it Bush tollway but 190) but is currently kinda expensive. It is however, I must admit, quite nice to drive on. DO I credit Bush for solely for this? No. Why? Because the Governor in Texas is not much more than a title. The Lt. Governor does the real work.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:59 pmerock - who do you think owns the air?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:59 pmSpongey - You never take the toll road to bypass the 405? That Measure M tax money sure forgot to mention the toll portion of the proposal......
"So, when the roads of California were built, did the government of California call you up or your ancestors and ask you which roads and where you wanted them?"
That is done by the officials elected to represent the people of California. Idiot.
"hey, i guess by your standards, we all own the military, right? our taxes pay for the military, thus we own them, right?
we also own the police, firefighters, etc, etc, etc."
Yes, we do own them moron. God fu*king damn you are stupid.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:00 pmare you honestly claiming now that our highways are ours too? so why do we all pay tolls to use most of them.
We pay tolls so they can be paid off quicker. Dunno where you live but Texas has no state tax. The tollways,once paid off, have the toll booths removed.
Why do you pay for parking at a sports stadium paid for by city bonds?
Comment by Zep Tepi — June 20, 2007 @ 4:54 pm
hey Zep Tepi, using my puppets standards, pudgy_boy, we own the parking lot of all sports stadium, since the public pays for it every single time it goes and parks there to see a sporting event, right?
ah, my Liberal puppets, so easy to pull your strings.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:01 pmAmerica does not have a Free Press. Force radio, TV, and newspapers to go one week without advertising revenues and just the receipts from paying customers and they'd all fold.
American media are nothing but the propaganda wing of corporate America. The consumer is not YOU but GM, Ford, Disney, Microsoft, Coke, Pepsi, McDonalds, etc. You are shown what those companies want you to see according to what gender and age they want to sell to. Anything upsetting to those consumers will get spiked. And 'friendly' politicians will be hyped.
The First Amendment may protect the Free Press, but it doesn't guarantee one. The lack of a Free Press requires some proactive legislation to guarantee that propaganda should not be passed off as 'news' and bias promoted as debate.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:01 pmSo why do people claim that I am a Democratic god?
I never have. But then again it was George that claimed to speak to God.
Was he talking to you?
Besides I am not a Democrat.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:01 pm"Spongey - You never take the toll road to bypass the 405?"
mighty aphrodite,
No I don't I only take FREEways. Why would I pay money to a private company for what I can get for free.
Besides, why would I use a toll road that doesn't go anywhere near my house or work? For fun?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:02 pmhey Zep Tepi, using my puppets standards, pudgy_boy, we own the parking lot of all sports stadium, since the public pays for it every single time it goes and parks there to see a sporting event, right?
ah, my Liberal puppets, so easy to pull your strings.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
Yes, everything that is paid for using taxpayers money is owned by the public.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:04 pmah, my Liberal puppets, so easy to pull your strings. Comment by
President Clinton
That would be a marionette. Not a puppet. *rolls eyes* Besides that George was manager of the Texas Rangers, formerly a Washington team. I wont go into the emminent domain used to obtain the land.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:04 pm“Academia tends to be liberal because thinking people tend to view things in terms other than black and white,†This Holy Grail of the Left fogets that most Leftards would LOVE great salaries for 9 months worth of work.…and have you ever met people who know their benefit packages BETTER than a liberal?? These are the folks who come to work to take a break….
Comment by valiant venus — June 20, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
You really think that the only work being done in Academia is teaching? When there aren't students there, there's reasearch, writing, conferences, private collaboration, product development...it's a full-time job.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:06 pmMr. Clinton needs to lay off the beans.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:06 pmhey Zep Tepi, using my puppets standards, pudgy_boy, we own the parking lot of all sports stadium, since the public pays for it every single time it goes and parks there to see a sporting event, right?
I guess you never stopped to think that your paying for security and lot attendants and not the land itself.
So easy to throw peanuts in a monkey house.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:07 pmAt least "Frank J" and "Steven M. Nielson" are interesting to debate on this site. "President Clinton" is like debating with a third-grader . . . a third-grader with a first-grade education.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:08 pmThese are the folks who come to work to take a break….
Comment by valiant venus
Just cant put down the fingerpaints can you?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:09 pmSounds like we are back to square one in your attempt to "Crash The Gates". I was alarmed when the leading Democratic presidential candidates fell all over themselves trying to demonstrate who was the better Christian. Last week, Obama had a video of some woman singing about a crush she had on him, which crushed his poll numbers down to John Edwards level - that is some crush. Yesterday, I see Chris Matthews and friends begging Bloomberg to get into the race, hoping Gore would be a running mate. Now, I see you guys re-addressing the talk radio gap again.
I guess the head of steam you all built up to win control of congress, has now backfired (as I predicted, and Raum Emanuel dreaded) with the Democratic congress having an approval rating lower the dubya's. You were wise to hide Nanci Pelosi and Harry Reid prior to the election, but we have all seen them in action, and the US says "Yuck".
Don't worry, all of this was an exercise in futility. I told you politics would not change until Hill'reh ran and lost, so it never mattered what you did - win or lose. Hill'reh will do anything to be the Dem candidate, and as such, will lose to any Rep put against her, under any circumstances, so just sit back and enjoy the show, as I am.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:10 pmAt least “Frank J†and “Steven M. Nielson†are interesting to debate on this site.
Frank J??????
Maybe Steven M. Nielson if he really wants to deabte, but this morning was concern troll tactics and agreeing with all of the other trolls.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:10 pm#33, umm, it is not widly known that the traditional media is liberally biased, nope it is widly stated by the conservative outlets that everyone else is liberally biased. Thus it allows them to excuse their over the top partisan cheerleading for only one side of the equation. But just because they state that the rest of the media is wildly liberal does nto make it a truth.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:10 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler — June 20, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
And who shows up to plagreize somebody elses work? None other than our very own fascist Jason M Hendler.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:11 pmAnother consideration, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN all lean towards liberal views. Are you going to force them to have more time for conservative news reporting and views.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:13 pmMost people listen to the radio for entertainment purposes.
Conservative talk radio is almost exactly the same as Shock Jock radio (i.e. more people listen because they disagree with the host than actually agree with them or simply want to hear how far their going to go).
Progressive radio isn't very entertaining and quite frankly as a progressive myself I get tired of listening to people I agree with far faster than those I disagree with. This would explain why the numbers don't match up with the population, conservatives listen to progressive radio and progressives listen to conservation radio because the disagreement is entertaining to them. (guilty pleasure?)
June 20th, 2007 at 5:15 pmAnother consideration, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN all lean towards liberal views. Are you going to force them to have more time for conservative news reporting and views.
Comment by Douglas G. — June 20, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
No they don't and just because you say it doesn't make it real.
No read posts 1 through 288 to catch up. We are way past this talking point.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:16 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler
You used that same cup of wisdom back in 2006 and were wrong.=)
June 20th, 2007 at 5:16 pmComment by Justposting — June 20, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
And there are a lot of progressives that listen and record NeoCOn radio to call them on their bullsh!t.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:17 pmAnother consideration, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN all lean towards liberal views. Are you going to force them to have more time for conservative news reporting and views.
Comment by Douglas G
They only look like "liberal views" if you're standing waaaaaaay over there on the Right wing.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:17 pmAnother consideration, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN all lean towards liberal views. Are you going to force them to have more time for conservative news reporting and views.
Comment by Douglas G. — June 20, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
No they don’t and just because you say it doesn’t make it real.
No read posts 1 through 288 to catch up. We are way past this talking point.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
just because you claim they aren't Liberal it doesn't mean they are not. Wake up and smell the roses my poor naive puppet.
here is another example, my retard, would you be willing for AirAmerica radio stations to broadcast the same amount of Conservative time than Liberal time?
In Chicago, 850AM only broadcasts AirAmerican radio, do you believe that they should be forced to broadcast conservative talking heads?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:19 pmAs a liberal talkshow host, I agree that corporate ownership is the culprit in this and most issues facing the radio industry. Conservatism caught on in commercial radio as Rush Limbaugh found success and corporate copycats immediately decided that conservatives were the primary AM, and therefore, talkradio audience. Relaxing the ownership rules only entrenched that short-sighted philosophy deeper into the industry. Things are starting to change as broadcasters in many regions find success with progressive talk. But re-instating the "fairness doctrine" is the wrong way to go. Progressives, especially progressives in the industry, just have to work harder and keep pushing against the behemoths. Air America is working inspite of its financial troubles. It's still on the air, after all. If you've ever worked in radio you know that NOTHING is successful overnight. Everything and EVERYBODY needs time to reach its potential.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:22 pmIn Chicago, 850AM only broadcasts AirAmerican radio, do you believe that they should be forced to broadcast conservative talking heads?
Comment by President Clinton
Media creates controversy as a means to make a profit. This is really not much different than hackers creating viruse so they can fix the problem.
I don't put much into value into either one. I don't need anti-virus programs (as I'm computer literate) and I don't need talk radio (Im literate enough to read the bills myself)
Capice?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:24 pmRush Limbaugh calls himself a conservative, by his own definition, he isn't.
He is a controversative. And like GOP Arnold says, and I agree, Irrelevent.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:26 pmComment by Justposting — June 20, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
And there are a lot of progressives that listen and record NeoCOn radio to call them on their bullsh!t.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
Don't worry, conservatives also listen to Liberal radio and watch Liberal televison and call them on their bull sh!t.
that is the problem with LIberals today, for decades you have had control of the airwaves, along came Limbaugh in the 1980s and then Foxnews in the mid-1990s and you lost the airwaves monopoly and you don't like that.
that is what is all about, Liberals having complete and utter control of the news and information spoon fed to Americans for decades and now having lost that control.
how sad for you spudgy my puppet boy.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:26 pmLiberals haven't listened to talk radio in so long, that it's difficult to bring them into the fold once these new shows become available. When liberal programming comes to town, a notable portion of the listeners are conservative talk-radio junkies just curious and in need of something different. I can't imagine a huge rush of liberals tuning in, especially if the station can't get the word out.
Also, the talk radio style isn't always a good fit for "compassionate" liberals. One way that talk radio hosts try to get ratings is to slur and dehumanize the opposition. How many times do I need to hear Randi Rhodes call George Bush a monkey? That not kind of show that I would tune in to every day.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:26 pmVV again has her half-assed talking points of argument.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:27 pmShe is comparing the extremely limited AAR broadcasts to the hundreds of conservative radio stations across the nation. She also believes the NYT (remember, Judy Miller's paper? the one that pushed for the war in Iraq with false information because they didn't investigate and ask questions) is liberal. She conveniently forgets that the NYT is the nation's "newspaper" -- the one with huge readership here as well as in the world.
VV is pitting the tiny Boston Globe, -- which actually isn't liberal, but because it comes from Massachusetts, she assumed it is liberal, -- with the Washington Post, the New York Post, Chicago Tribune, and other far more prominent and conservative newspapers.
People like VV who come here and trash this site with their hate-filled and misinformed comments need to find somewhere else to spread their bullshit.
In Chicago, 850AM only broadcasts AirAmerican radio, do you believe that they should be forced to broadcast conservative talking heads?
Comment by President Clinton
Media creates controversy as a means to make a profit. This is really not much different than hackers creating viruse so they can fix the problem.
I don’t put much into value into either one. I don’t need anti-virus programs (as I’m computer literate) and I don’t need talk radio (Im literate enough to read the bills myself)
Capice?
Comment by Zep Tepi — June 20, 2007 @ 5:24 pm
Zep Tepi, well good for you, but look at how TP actually is trying to come with a plan to destroy conservative radio. They sound quite desperate don't you think?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:27 pm"just because you claim they aren’t Liberal it doesn’t mean they are not. Wake up and smell the roses my poor naive puppet."
Okay, now you are seriously repeating what I say. Stop it and take your own side and come up with your own arguements.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:27 pm"Comment by Joe T — June 20, 2007 @ 5:22 pm"
Joe, why do you say "re-instating the “fairness doctrine†is the wrong way to go"??
I see it as a positive.....
Requiring an equal voice of the opposite view is something that has been missing since the doctrine was dumped.
Forcing EQUAL time is a good thing. That's kinda like saying that the fat kid should not be made to give some of his excessive food on his plate to some of the other kids just because he got there first.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:28 pm"Don’t worry, conservatives also listen to Liberal radio and watch Liberal televison and call them on their bull sh!t."
Too bad there are so few of you fu*ktards or the ratings would be higher.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:28 pmIn Chicago, 850AM only broadcasts AirAmerican radio, do you believe that they should be forced to broadcast conservative talking heads?
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
Not until there is somefu*king balance idiot.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:29 pmZep Tepi, well good for you, but look at how TP actually is trying to come with a plan to destroy conservative radio. They sound quite desperate don’t you think?
Comment by President Clinton
And I say so what? They have freedom of speech just like you do. Do they ban you from posting on this site?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:30 pm"How many times do I need to hear Randi Rhodes call George Bush a monkey? That not kind of show that I would tune in to every day.
Comment by Fugazi — June 20, 2007 @ 5:26 pm"
Randi is GREAT!!!
She not only reads the FACTS on air to you, but also provides them on her web site.......
OK, so she may beat on old Monkey boy from time to time but 95% of the time she is ONLY providing VERIFYABLE FACTS...
June 20th, 2007 at 5:31 pmZep Tepi, well good for you, but look at how TP actually is trying to come with a plan to destroy conservative radio. They sound quite desperate don’t you think?
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
Not destroy. Balance. We know you like to make sh!t up, but we aren't going to let it fly.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:31 pmThe conservative movement has been badmouthing people they don't know for years for their ideology. Godless liberal books and other such things. Do you really think that kind of stuff doesn't create opposition?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:32 pmIn Chicago, 850AM only broadcasts AirAmerican radio, do you believe that they should be forced to broadcast conservative talking heads?
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
Not until there is somefu*king balance idiot.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
That's what I thought you would say my retard, my puppet. You want the fairness doctrine to silence Conservatives and for you balance is to cut short the time conservatives are on the air and give more time to Liberals.
how truly sad for you my puppet. You are just but another sad, sad, very sad nazi.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:33 pm"How many times do I need to hear Randi Rhodes call George Bush a monkey?"
She doesn't talk about Bush all the time. There are hundreds of Republicans breaking the law at any minute of the day to talk about.
How about Rudy Guliani's SC campaign manager getting indicted for distribution of cocaine. Bush likes cocaine, maybe Rudy does also.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:34 pm“Don’t worry, conservatives also listen to Liberal radio and watch Liberal televison and call them on their bull sh!t.â€
Too bad there are so few of you fu*ktards or the ratings would be higher.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:28 pm
If it helps you sleep at night to believe your wet dream my friend. Don't forget that talking heads like Rush and Hannity, etc have 20 million listeners or more.
ratings that Liberals would love to have.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:34 pmwho listens to regular radio and the endless commercials? i rather read.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:34 pm"That’s what I thought you would say my retard, my puppet. You want the fairness doctrine to silence Conservatives and for you balance is to cut short the time conservatives are on the air and give more time to Liberals."
Once again I never said silence, you did. I want balance, but to you that means all or none, because you are a typical morn that sees in black and white.
You just keep calling me a puppet from the safety of your basement. If you were in front of me, you would need some dental work. So, enjoy your annonimity.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:36 pmZep Tepi, well good for you, but look at how TP actually is trying to come with a plan to destroy conservative radio. They sound quite desperate don’t you think?
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
Not destroy. Balance. We know you like to make sh!t up, but we aren’t going to let it fly.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
Balance? you call forcing Americans to listen to Liberal talking heads balance?
why are you so against giving them a choice?
In Chicago there are three talking head stations, 560AM, 890AM and 850AM.
850AM is 100% Liberal radio, and guess what, it has less traffic than the other two stations that are Conservative stations, whose fault is that?
It is not the fault of Conservatives that Liberals don't listen or aren't good enough to do well in radio.
Like a good Nazi, you want to ram down the throat of Americans what you want them to listen too.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:38 pm"If it helps you sleep at night to believe your wet dream my friend. Don’t forget that talking heads like Rush and Hannity, etc have 20 million listeners or more."
Who cares?
How does Hannity or Limballs listenership affect me in any way.
Also, the numbers are only that high if you add them all up.
Bill O'Rielly, the most popular right wing talking head has 1.9 millino listeners.
8 million people play World of Warcraft.
so, 4 times as many people would rather live in Blizzard's fantasy world than live in your fantasy land.
Moron.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:39 pmhow truly sad for you my puppet. You are just but another sad, sad, very sad nazi. Comment by President Clinton
The fairness doctrine didn't just work for the liberals MPC. The fairness doctrine was to reduce propaganda on both sides of the aisle. Propaganda can be a very dangerous thing. We should look at what happened in Germany and not engage in such dehumanizing language.
NO PARTY SHOULD EVER ENGAGE IN HATE.
Hate speak is never a good thing.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:39 pm“That’s what I thought you would say my retard, my puppet. You want the fairness doctrine to silence Conservatives and for you balance is to cut short the time conservatives are on the air and give more time to Liberals.â€
Once again I never said silence, you did. I want balance, but to you that means all or none, because you are a typical morn that sees in black and white.
You just keep calling me a puppet from the safety of your basement. If you were in front of me, you would need some dental work. So, enjoy your annonimity.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
Spudgy my boy, my GI Joe friend, I am shacking in my boots, literally! oh know, you would knock my teeth off.
why don't you put some teeth behind your threat. Give me your name and address and I'll go show up in yoru home and then I'll help you clean up your teeth.
sounds good? Let us see how brave a progressive really is.
tick, tock, tick, tock....
June 20th, 2007 at 5:39 pm"Balance? you call forcing Americans to listen to Liberal talking heads balance?"
I never said force, you did. Your black and white brain is broken and in need of repair.
Like I said, you won't be able to spew your lies here or make up stories. I will always come back and straighten your lies and stories out.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:41 pmhow truly sad for you my puppet. You are just but another sad, sad, very sad nazi. Comment by President Clinton
The fairness doctrine didn’t just work for the liberals MPC. The fairness doctrine was to reduce propaganda on both sides of the aisle. Propaganda can be a very dangerous thing. We should look at what happened in Germany and not engage in such dehumanizing language.
NO PARTY SHOULD EVER ENGAGE IN HATE.
Hate speak is never a good thing.
Comment by Zep Tepi — June 20, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
Zep, I agree, but it is just too much fun to play with little people, with naive, less than 80 IQ people like pudgy boy.
he is such a good, naive Democratic puppet. It is so fun to play with his simple mind, you know?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:42 pm"Spudgy my boy, my GI Joe friend, I am shacking in my boots, literally! oh know, you would knock my teeth off."
First, it is "shaking" second it is "out" and you are an enemy of the state. You are a domestic enemy and I took an oath to protect my country from people like you.
You are lucky you are safe in your annonimity to say whatever you want on the Internet. Chicken sh!t chicken hawk.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:42 pm“Balance? you call forcing Americans to listen to Liberal talking heads balance?â€
I never said force, you did. Your black and white brain is broken and in need of repair.
Like I said, you won’t be able to spew your lies here or make up stories. I will always come back and straighten your lies and stories out.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
Ok, son, explain how you would get Americans to listen to Liberal talking heads on radio.
what is your plan?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:43 pmhe is such a good, naive Democratic puppet. It is so fun to play with his simple mind, you know?
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
You ain't playing with anybody. Moron.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:43 pm“Spudgy my boy, my GI Joe friend, I am shacking in my boots, literally! oh know, you would knock my teeth off.â€
First, it is “shaking†second it is “out†and you are an enemy of the state. You are a domestic enemy and I took an oath to protect my country from people like you.
You are lucky you are safe in your annonimity to say whatever you want on the Internet. Chicken sh!t chicken hawk.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
But if you are so brave, GI Joe, why not give me your name and address and we will settle this like men? well me as men, you as a poor, naive little boy.
I mean if you are braver than me, prove it, give me your name and address.
show me what you are made of, my progressive puppet, my liberal GI Joe.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:44 pm"Ok, son, explain how you would get Americans to listen to Liberal talking heads on radio."
Have you been paying attention?
First, start at the very top of the thread and read CAPs plan.
Then go fu*k yourself.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:45 pm#300 - Marie - it must be tiresome to be misinformed so often. Why don't you ever comment on all the conservatism at the NYT besides Judith Miller?? ****foot tapping*****
Compare the editorials from the Boston Globe to the Boston Herald - you might not appear sooo embittered.
With all the material success of Leftards, they should be buying up radio stations left and right...I mean Left!
June 20th, 2007 at 5:46 pmBut if you are so brave, GI Joe, why not give me your name and address and we will settle this like men? well me as men, you as a poor, naive little boy.
Come on down to SoCal. When you get in the area, I live in Lake Forest. We will meet at a mutually agreeable location. I am not stupid and won't put my family in danger from crazyies like you. There are plenty of places in Lake Forest that will be agreeable, since I live in a Republican town.
Let me know when you are coming and we can start setting up the plans.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:47 pmIt is widely known that the MSM is liberal biased, and talk radio is conservative biased. I dont understand why the liberal want to remove the ability for conservatives to gather and talk via the airwaves… it is not like the MSM outlets would EVER consider giving non-biased reports or equal airtime to both sides of an issue… not with the 20 second spots that give you the “headlinesâ€. Instead of a Fascist movement hell bent on shutting the opposition up, let’s let sleeping dogs lie… if Air America wants more airtime, broadcast to where the liberals are listening, i.e. the MUSIC CHANNELS.
Oh, and Spudge Boy… why resort to name calling. Very basic conversation ability is all that you are showing. One step above grunting and scratching yourself are comments like “…dumb fu*kâ€. Let’s keep it both positive and intelligent.
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
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June 20th, 2007 at 5:48 pmYea keep repeating the lie that the MSM is conservative. It never has been and never will be when all the owners and management are big conservative republicans. Stop making shit up and repeating lies spread by the conservative echo chamber. The conservatives rule talk radio because the conservatives own the radio stations and have an agenda. They even own Fox (also known as the Bush talking points network). The media is constantly all about conservative spin. Our country would be lucky to have the media dominated by liberals because we would then actually receive news and not get news stories squashed because the truth would make republicans and conservatives look bad.
"...8 million people play World of Warcraft..."
Comment by Spudge Boy
Thankfully, many of those 8 mil are a large part of the populace who don't bother to vote.....
June 20th, 2007 at 5:49 pmHey President Clinton, you couls stay with avlient venus. She is in San Diego. It is abotu a 45 minute drive, but you wouldn't have to pay for a room and she is a good little troll like you.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:51 pmThankfully, many of those 8 mil are a large part of the populace who don’t bother to vote…..
Comment by valiant venus — June 20, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
Uh huh. Whatever you want to believe.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:51 pmSponge - If I didn't know better, I would think the AARPers in Lake Forest and Laguna Woods would frown on duelling....we wouldn't want to interrupt the BINGO caller.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:51 pmThe trolls here simply don't have the capacity to grasp the facts regarding radio broadcasting.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:51 pmConservatives own the major outlets.
Liberals, like AA carried on WCPT-850, is relegated to "daytime" hours only, and with a limited range signal. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that limited hours on a weaker signal is not going to reach the audience of the competition on 24/7 and heard over several states.
The FCC has allowed the consolidation of the media, to the detriment of balanced broadcasting across the country.
Why should AA broadcast conservatives for balance, when the whole system is off balance? When there are as many liberal stations as conservative, then I will listen to the argument. For now, the conservatives are being true to form -- they want it all, they want it their way and they whine and stomp their feet if they have to share even the teeniest bit of what they have.
Spoiled brats - never grew up. Rich, selfish offpsring of narrow-minded parents; their mantra is "I got mine, go get your own." Regardless that they got where they are through theft, bribery, chicanery and nepotism. Whether they are talking about broadcasting, medical care, tax cuts or jobs -- it's always the same with them.
It is so fun to play with his simple mind, you know? Comment by President Clinton
Perhaps its fun, but when somebody cleans your clock, or mine, because they don't think you or I am funny, then its no longer a game, its a crime.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:53 pmSponge - If I didn’t know better, I would think the AARPers in Lake Forest and Laguna Woods would frown on duelling….we wouldn’t want to interrupt the BINGO caller.
Comment by valiant venus — June 20, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
Heh. Now that was funny.
Is Laguna Woods what they are calling Liesure World now? They still have up Liesure World signs and I haven't heard anybody use the new name yet. I not sure if it has caught on or if it is too hard for the old people to remeber, so there is a 40 year grace period.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:53 pmThankfully, many of those 8 mil are a large part of the populace who don’t bother to vote….. Comment by valiant venus
Then why bother caging?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:54 pmSpudgy my boy, my GI Joe friend, I am shacking in my boots, literally! oh know, you would knock my teeth off.
why don’t you put some teeth behind your threat. Give me your name and address and I’ll go show up in yoru home and then I’ll help you clean up your teeth.
sounds good? Let us see how brave a progressive really is.
tick, tock, tick, tock….
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
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June 20th, 2007 at 5:55 pmGod, you are so pathetic!!! It is all about being a violent bully for you, isn't it? Pack up your bags and leave our country, there are plenty of third world countries that could always use another thug.
Comment by Liberal Cheesehead — June 20, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
I must admit I started it.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:56 pmMarie - When there are as many liberal stations? What a stupidly ignorant comment. If I said, I won't send any of the mini valiants to college until there are an equal number of conservative professors, I would be cutting my children's chances of success. No, dear, conservative parents like me send our kids off to college and counsel them on the subtle and overt bias of their professors so their little brains don't become infected with envy and despair.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:57 pmVV doesn't read the NYT -- she only repeats what her masters tell her. The NYT is conservative. VV can't tell the difference between editorials and reporting from the token liberal columnist.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:57 pmI can't reply to her insanity and closed mind any more -- she is a hopeless and hateful troll, an ignorant sheep.
I don't care how you try and frame it, this is all "RW radio is being listened to more than LW radio so we want the gov't to make it balanced." Nothing but fascism. Goebbels would have been proud of the modern day liberal.
No thought whatsoever on your part that even if it were 50/50, there's no guarantee that LW radio would be listened to anymore than it is now. In fact, I would say it's prettty evident by who's listening to talk radio now that the RW shows would be what the overwhelming majority tune in to hear, and then they'll flip it to somehting else when LW radio comes on. The only shift will be the gov't mandated time of how long RW and LW programming can be on, but you can't force the listeners to listen to both. And they won't.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:58 pm"Then why bother caging?
Comment by Zep Tepi — June 20, 2007 @ 5:54 pm"
Because the ONLY way they can win is by cheating......
Notice the only group that "cages" are the Republicans and they "promissed" 2x in the past that they would not perform this again......
Why does ANYONE believe a single word spoken out of a Republican's mouth????
I realize that even the Dems lie, but at least it is only now and then and not in every breath....
June 20th, 2007 at 5:59 pmWell Marie, I suppose the NYT is conservative when compared to The Nation, Mother Jones, Revolution or the old Pravda. Thank you for not embarrassing yourself re: liberal college professors........
June 20th, 2007 at 6:03 pmLet us see how brave a progressive really is. tick, tock, tick, tock….
Comment by President Clinton
I talk with my conservative neighbors all the time. It's an ideology not a lifestyle MPC. There are very few differences between the unelected Salus Populi.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:04 pmHeck my conservative neighbors parents are Democrats. My parents call themselves Conservative Republicans. Do we knock out each others teeth? No.
re: liberal college professors……..Comment by valiant venus
V V don't forget that George and Dick both attended so called 'liberal colleges' with 'liberal' professors. =)
June 20th, 2007 at 6:07 pmComment by Zep Tepi — June 20, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
The only time I ever talk to a republican like our trolls, is on this web site. None of my republican friends in my neighborhood are anything like these people. When you tell them something they go "Hmmmmm, you don't say." then the next time I talk to them they go "I heard something about that thing" then the next time they say "Wow, you were right" They don't go try and find a talking point to dispute what I say. The trolls only want to be contrary, even if they are 100% wrong.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:09 pmZep - "Heck my conservative neighbors parents are Democrats. My parents call themselves Conservative Republicans."
We all go through our rebellion stage - some of us just grow out of it - that's all.......
I did notice CAP suggests more "diversity in ownership"......why do Progs always cite "diversity" except when it comes to liberal institutions?? If this doesn't prove the misunderstanding of markets, I don't know what does....
Tooodles.........
June 20th, 2007 at 6:10 pmComment by valiant venus
You know V V, Mighty Aphrodite. I notice that you didn't start calling yourself Venus until I told you what was meant by morning star.
How do you suppose I knew what Isous meant by that?
June 20th, 2007 at 6:10 pmThe only time I ever talk to a republican like our trolls, is on this web site. None of my republican friends in my neighborhood are anything like these people.
Perhaps, but I suspect that if you did meet face to face it wouldn't be as here. The internet is famous for such anonymous antics.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:12 pmThe trolls only want to be contrary, even if they are 100% wrong.
Like V V's post above, and from her own posts, she admitted she just likes to argue, wrong or right.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:15 pmI did notice CAP suggests more “diversity in ownershipâ€â€¦â€¦why do Progs always cite “diversity†except when it comes to liberal institutions?? If this doesn’t prove the misunderstanding of markets, I don’t know what does….Tooodles………Comment by valiant venus
Maybe they do. No they don't. It doesn't prove a thing. Do you? Toodles.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:17 pmHere is how liberals win arguments: They try to take away true reasons for their failures by suggesting they are myths. Competition is a wonderful thing. Air America was funded tremendously by Soros and gang and went BK. It seems the market determined it's failure.
This "finding" is a joke. Once again we hear the cat-calls for diversity in ownership. Who's stopping liberal losers like Gore and Soros from competting in this market? Open up your wallet books and start your own station......oh yeah, you did, and it failed miserably. The liberal media complex is failing to report unbiased news and Fox is filling that void. All radio stations are open to callers of any persuasion; are liberals not making a good showing? Are their arguments faulty? Are they scared? Why the disparity in the free market? It's because of the imbalance of the last 50 years. Thomas Jefferson would be proud to see voices and opinions being expressed freely and not being screened or funneled through ABC, NBC, CBS and PBS. The news media has no dialogue or feedback methods. Talk radio and the internet do.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:20 pm"Comment by Eric — June 20, 2007 @ 6:20 pm"
Boy are you a COMPLETE MORON!
Nuff said!
June 20th, 2007 at 6:22 pm"Here is how liberals win arguments: They try to take away true reasons for their failures by suggesting they are myths. Competition is a wonderful thing. Air America was funded tremendously by Soros and gang and went BK. It seems the market determined it’s failure."
Why do the trolls keep coming on here and repeating the same debunked bullsh!t.
Air America did not fail or go bankrupt. They filed chapter 11 and were pulled out by a conservative real estate mogul in Chicago.
Learn some facts.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:27 pmRESPONSE TO #351 Eric
June 20th, 2007 at 6:29 pmWhat if the so-called free market were dominated by a handful of very wealthy and powerful oligarchs who decided NOT to advertise on Air America, thereby starving it of revenue?
Perhaps the most liberal radio program on NPR these days is The Prarie Home COmpanion, but their only major sonsor is a foreign company, Toyota. Why aren't there any major America sponsors for the Prarie show? Why no predominantly Jewish owned business advertising on Prarie?
I'll give you another example, Harper's magazine for YEARS was very popular but was not drawing much in ad revenue. They consistently were very critical Israel and had a traditional progressive economic bias. Then their editor Lewis Lapham retired and suddenly there was major Jewish advertising and more Jewish contributing editors and their editorial bias has shifted to the right.
I'll give you another example, CNN. When Ted Turner ran a truly fair and balanced CNN, he was starved for revenue. That's back in the day when Christianne Amanpour could refer to Arab nationalists as Freedom Fighters. Remember those days. Starved for ad revenue. Then Ted Turner was out and gerald Levin was in and ad revenue skyrocheted.
THERE IS NO FREE MARKET IN A TOTALITARIAN STATE CONTROLLED BY A HANDFUL OF OLIGARCHS.
I don't know if this has been said, I only read the first few trolls, but Air America is alive and well. It is available on XM Satellite radio all over the country. And it is still available in many major markets, like Chicago and many others. You just need to to to their website to see where. Also you can listen to it on their website. I don't know why the trolls insist on saying it folded.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:37 pmAnd here is another very interesting example. How could Mother Jones, one of the historically most PROGRESSIVE periodicals in American letters print the horrifying smear piece it did on Rachel Corrie, the young peace activist crushed to death when Israel rolled a Caterpillar bulldozer over her? And who wrote that smear piece? A Jewish writer...
June 20th, 2007 at 6:41 pmhttp://www.counterpunch.org/nguyen09202003.html
Free market in media is a myth, no wonder Greg Palast calls living in the US living behind 'the electronic BerlinWall'.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:42 pmSo Joker is a Bloomberg hack, shows up yesterday spewing how both parties are controlled by Islam while Bloomberg is declaring he's an independent. I thought he was just nuts.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:45 pmSpudge: "Why do the trolls keep coming on here and repeating the same debunked bullsh!t."
That's a good question. It's a cultural phenomenon, really. What's going on is their pundits and opinion leaders continue to lie to them. And, since these liars are telling them things they really want to hear, it's very difficult to get them to understand what's going on.
Nevermind the fact that there is absoutely no evidence that Soros ever gave dollar one to Air America. Right wing pudits will continue to say it and their cultists will repeat it.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:55 pmRe: ErrAmerica - "I don’t know why the trolls insist on saying it folded."
Comment by shane
Thank you, Shane! We conservatives stand corrected. The idiots of America just don't understand the superior intellect of whiny progtards. What I meant to say was that ErrAmerica was such a commercial flop, it could not compete with the conservative competition in the marketplace of free ideas. (When they tell you how their percentages are growing, please note, they NEVER discuss the actual numbers of listeners. They would rather be waterboarded than divulge those numbers!)
Tooodles..........
June 20th, 2007 at 7:05 pm"What I meant to say was that ErrAmerica was such a commercial flop, it could not compete with the conservative competition in the marketplace of free ideas."
This too is just another debunked troll talking point. Next.
June 20th, 2007 at 7:09 pmEach weekday, 2,570 hours and 15 minutes of conservative talk are broadcast on these stations compared to 254 hours of progressive talk — 10 times as much conservative talk as progressive talk.
Its actually much worse than this. In Chicago the progressive station, WCPT, is on a terrible AM signal. Its very difficult to tune in. The station is also only a daytime station. Which means that six months out of the year it basically has NO MORNING SHOW and NO DRIVE-TIME SHOW. And anyone who knows radio knows these are the most important hours for radio. I understand the situation is almost exactly the same in Los Angeles (and many other market).
Compare that to the neo-con station in Chicago, WLS. They have a 50,000 watt signal that can be heard all over the country.
WCPT not unexpectedly gets terrible ratings, like .2 while WLS gets a 5.0 share.
If you switched stations and put the progressive hosts on WLS and put the neo-cons on WCPT you'd see a reversal in ratings. Limbaugh would get a .2 on WCPT.
How come progressives got stuck with all the bad stations around the country? How the hell can you compete with a terrible signal? How can you compete when you don't even have a morning show and drive time show for half the year. Those are the real questions.
June 20th, 2007 at 7:40 pmFaiz writes "Two common myths are frequently offered to explain the imbalance of talk radio: 1) the 1987 repeal of the Fairness Doctrine (which required broadcasters to devote airtime to contrasting views), and 2) simple consumer demand. "
Read the report Faiz, and try to control your spinning. The report itself does not refer to those two explanations as "myths." The report simply claims (without much rationale) that those two explanations are "inadequate." The report then proceeds to offer its own set of structural explanations. The report, in other words, merely adds a different level of analysis to the phenom of right-wing radio; it does not negate the validity of the earlier two explanations.
All the explanations -- market forces, structural underpinnings, etc. -- appear to be playing some role. All are plausible.
June 20th, 2007 at 7:43 pmShirley - The Reds killed almost as many Jews as Hitler - you must be so proud!
June 20th, 2007 at 7:50 pmShirley - The Reds killed almost as many Jews as Hitler - you must be so proud!
Comment by valiant venus — June 20, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
Troll tactic #53 Change the subject.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:00 pmTroll tactic #47 - anyone who criticizes Israel is an anti-semite Nazi.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:03 pmTroll Tactic #17 Pretend that being anti-Muslim is not being anti-Semite. Don't recognize the fact that Semites are a region of of different peoples and has nothing to do with one religion or another.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:07 pmSponge - You might not be aware (although with your intellectual acumen, I doubt it) that anti-Semitism has not had a history in the US as a reference to those who hate Muslims or or Middle Eastern people. The recent "expansion" (to include Arabs, Muslims, etc.) of the American definition is a direct result of the "hit" American Jews and Israelis have taken from extreme Leftists. Anti-Jew leftards, like Shirley, are paranoid little freaks who need to blame someone else for their own failures. Semantically, you are correct - BUT You don't do yourself proud defending that.....
And since you try to equate Jews and Muslims (one an ally, one carrying out Jihad) forget what I said about your intelligence.....
June 20th, 2007 at 8:30 pmShouldn't your concern be tax-payer funded NPR which spews its Left wing crap and rabid bashing of Whites? If tax payer funded radio doesn't have to be fair don't demand the private sector to be.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:30 pmVV makes my point for me. I am talking about liberal vs. conservative radio and she transposes it to college. I never said one way or the other about college kids (I made the point that thinking people in academia don't think in black and white like she does) -- but her skin is so thin and she is so paranoid that her little valiants might actually learn something other than the propaganda she spews at them with their cereal, she is carefully indoctrinating them to never think differently from her.
As I said before -- she is hopeless, and heartless.
BTW, Larry from C -- thanks for adding additional information to the reasons why liberal radio has such a high mountain to climb.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:31 pmValiant -
Jews are no allies to the US. They have worked to flood the country with non-Whites, stolen money to sent to Israel, committed espionage against the US, are determined to spread any sort of degeneracy they can dream up in the mainstream media.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:32 pmTHIS is the "vast right-wing conspiracy" Hillary Clinton was talking about, and what I, and many others laughed about as her being paranoid.
She was right, I was wrong, and the proof is in the pudding.
The evidence, as we know now, was a multi-year plan, devised by thinktanks around Reagan's days, to build a permanent infrastructure of conservative spewing media/propaganda.
We see this continuance in Rove's "100 year majority".
This IS a conspiracy, and it's disgusting. It started with Reagans demolishing of the Fairness Doctrine, Rush Limbaugh's taking to the airwaves, soon after, AND, the best, most ingenious part of all, targeting uneducated Americans the most.
Why? Consider how many truck drivers there are...they have to tune into to something, at 2 am while they're on the road. Take someone who may not have the luxury of getting an education, surfing the internet, and learning for him/herself what's going on, and then throw in 76% conservative punditry garbage, and you have BUSH BOTS.
Hillary was right...recognize this.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:33 pmsupply and demand!!!!!!!!!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 8:33 pmAlex - Your last name wouldn't be Jones would it? I hear they are have a summer WHITE SALE over at JC Penney - stock up on those crisp white sheets!
June 20th, 2007 at 8:36 pmTrolls are protecting their dreams. They all hope one day to be a shock jock such as Rush or Imus or Savage.
ValianttheVenusHater vomits on human rights, since, if it ain't right, it ain't human.
I'm sure corporate shareholders would love to learn how much of their company's profits are ciphoned off to subsidize Rightwing Talk Radio. They aren't even asked to endorse these Dittoheads at the AGM.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:37 pm"valiant venus," I'm coming in at the last statement, but I equate Christians, Jews, and Muslims as ALL being the same.
You can call it anti-semitism, anti-religion, whatever you want.
It is these nutjob fanatics that will be the destruction of us all.
As proof, consider this:
Extremist muslims think that liberalism will be the downfall of society.
Insert Extremist christians (dominionists), AND you get
Dominionist christians think that liberalism will be the downfall of society.
People basing governance on any religion are scary and should be tamped down completely.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:37 pmOnce more the Progressives reveal their true selves: Equality for all, but only if it favors them.
Why don't you go after newspapers like The Fort Collins Weekly and The Coloradoan - a Gannett newspaper, which have proven, documented histories of censorship - what you would call equality?
June 20th, 2007 at 8:37 pmLiberals had an entire network. Remember "Air America"? That thing went over like a fart in a submarine. Yes, they managed to keep themselves afloat for awhile by stealing from charities, but what's that between friends?
June 20th, 2007 at 8:37 pmAt the risk of introducing facts, my web site maintains links to almost every FCC licensed radio station in the US that streams onto the internet, and I keep statistics of what people listen to - uncontrained by ownership limit, signal strength, station's PD programming decisions... Here are the stats for a bit over the past year:
+----------+--------+---------------------------------+
| fmtcount | fmtpct | formatname |
+----------+--------+---------------------------------+
| 908158 | 59.37 | Conservative Talk |
| 115314 | 7.54 | Personal Advice | (Dr Laura)
| 106859 | 6.99 | Progressive Talk |
| 59911 | 3.92 | Politics |
| 58945 | 3.85 | Conspiracy Talk |
| 57500 | 3.76 | Financial News / Advice |
| 56147 | 3.67 | Hot Talk |
| 40442 | 2.64 | Sports Talk |
| 34631 | 2.26 | Libertarian Talk |
| 21935 | 1.43 | Interview / Current Events |
| 20144 | 1.32 | Technology Advice |
| 7915 | 0.52 | Local Talk |
| 6939 | 0.45 | Legal Issues |
| 6456 | 0.42 | Entertainment |
| 6172 | 0.40 | Medical Advice |
| 4385 | 0.29 | Local News |
| 2346 | 0.15 | House and Garden Advice |
| 2177 | 0.14 | Global News |
| 1910 | 0.12 | Car Advice |
| 1900 | 0.12 | Recreation Activities |
| 1394 | 0.09 | Happy Talk |
| 1107 | 0.07 | Music - Nostalgia |
| 819 | 0.05 | Religion |
| 731 | 0.05 | Music - Classical |
| 723 | 0.05 | Unknown |
| 656 | 0.04 | Health and Nutrition |
| 502 | 0.03 | Music - Oldies |
| 343 | 0.02 | Food |
| 273 | 0.02 | Public Service |
| 244 | 0.02 | Real Estate Advice |
| 234 | 0.02 | Pet Advice |
|[...] |
+----------+--------+---------------------------------+
It's very clear to me that Conservative Talk dominates radio because that is what people want to hear. I support a radio station's Right to Choose what programs it airs - don't you?
June 20th, 2007 at 8:38 pmThe reason why "progressive" radio does not exist is because no one wants to listen to a clow rip American for 3 hours a day. The public decides what goes on the air though the free market.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:38 pmwhy isnt the research based on content? Maybe the other talk radio is uninformative, boring and without basis? Why not look at the traditional media. There was a recent BBC review, the US should do the same.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:38 pmThe liberals control almost every media outlet - newspapers, television, Hollywood etc. - but they still cry like babies because nobody wants to listen to their fringe rantings on the radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:40 pmKS
This is typical of Stalinist liberals. They always claim they are for freedom, but when freedom doesn't serve their agenda, they start screaming "conspiracy."
Why don't they come out with a finding that most tv media except Fox News is liberal? Why don't they have a problem with that "imbalance." Why don't they find a monopoly there? You know why they don't. It serves their agenda and their Stalinist views.
Does it ever occur to them that talk radio is run by market forces and people simply WANT to listen to conservative hosts? I'm sorry delusional liberals, but you can do any Stalinist crap you want. I will still listen to conservative views.
If you put your Stalinism into Talk Radio it won't matter. You can't control everything. We have the internet. We have the blogs. You can't shut us up.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:40 pmTypical Hitlerian response to a populist medium.
National Socialist Party was always the left. What part of National Socialism do they disavow?
They are racist, sexist, classist.
Count me in as a Republican Conservative. There is a big tent on the right, and it doesn't include this kind of stuff.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:40 pmFunny how this comes out a week after Trent Lott says "they" gotta do something about Conservatives butting in on how "they" are running the government.
Hmmm. I thought the government represented the people. The people don't approve of the way they are doing their job. So now let's change the rules to make it so the people aren't allowed to talk publicly about what they think.
Is anyone besides me worried here?
June 20th, 2007 at 8:40 pmTypical liberals: Those who disagree with us must be silenced. Civil War II will solve the "liberal problem."
Jessie Jacksoff
June 20th, 2007 at 8:41 pmI doubt they included NPR in this... NPR is completely liberal, oh sorry "progressive".
What about the imbalance in TV news...
This is pretty stupid over all.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:42 pmCall the Waaaaaaaaaaambulance! Nasty conservatives dominating radio so they must be cheating. Need higher secular power to come fix it and provide balance. Waaaaaaaaaaaaah, Waaaaaaaaaaaah, Waaaaaaaaaaaah! You people sure are entertaining.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:42 pmBefore you start in on conservatives this and NPR that, try this on for your democracy: Christian radio is mostly paid for by listeners, no ads. Conservatives talk radio is paid for by advertisers. NPR is paid for by the government. Hmmm.... where is your fairness doctrine? My guess is that there are more Christians in America than liberals, just a hunch. You planning to give them the equal footing to share their views?
June 20th, 2007 at 8:43 pmyou cannot blame liberals only on this.. some "conservatives" want this too.
you can blame contrary opinions. that is what they wish to put an end to. when radio is gone, the next thing will be the internet censored, then the paper we print at home, blocking your HP from using words like, "This Government Scares Me" or "No Illegals"
June 20th, 2007 at 8:43 pmLet me see, the so-called "progressives" (left-wing, socialist elites) have NBC, ABC, CBS, and NPR. You think this "raises serious questions about whether the companies licensed to broadcast over the public radio airwaves are serving the listening needs of all Americans." I think liberals have a lock on TV News and publicly funded broadcasting, and for years conservatives had no voice because of the Orwellian "Newspeak" emanating through the tube. Air America was a flop, because that wasn't what the better educated, highly successful listening public wanted. I say let the market take care of itself. Let the people decide what they want to listen to by giving them the right to tune in to whomever they please. If you don't like conservative programing, turn off your radio. You don't have to listen to it. I don't need you to tell me what I can and cannot listen to. This isn't Cuba or Venezuela. The regulation (censorship) you propose flies in the face of the First Amendment, which protects free (political) speech and not the pornographers who victimize women.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:44 pmYes, because the govt. requisitioned them from private ownership. Your "logic" is circular.
And typical liberal, you instantly resort to cursing your opponent. And thinking everyone who doesn't agree w. u is stupid.
How was it that Air America failed? Conspiracy? The only conspiracy was they stole $850,000 from the Boys and Girls Club to make payroll. Come on, opinions are built on facts. Not insults.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:44 pmI seem to recall Hugo Chavez closing the last free Radio station too. Wake up you idiots. Talk radio is the american people. No one listens to LIBERAL radio because no one agrees with what the talk show hosts are talking about. The "Fairness Doctrine" is a clear breach of the first amendment rights of the talk show hostsand for that matter the American people. In case you have not noticed the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" is done with both parties. This is just another attempt to push the American people around. The American people are at the point where we finally say enough and take back the power that the elite in the country abuse for their own good. You people are not Americans and can not compete with the voice of the people.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:45 pmMorons,
What drives the market isn't ownership but listeners and revenue. Air America flunked out because in spite of your George Soros funded spinning NOBODY listens to progressive radio, and the majority of listeners ARE conservative in their viewpoints.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:45 pm"Extremist muslims think that liberalism will be the downfall of society."
Of American society, yes. In fact the terrorists are counting on the liberals' deep desire to take American down. Both groups share the same goal.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:45 pmKS
ya just gotta laugh. the left had radio talk, backed by big bucks. it failed. no one listened. there was no conspiracy.
the left fusses and cries about 1 conservative 24 hour tv network. it's the no 1 network for 24 hour news. people watch it. it's not a conspiracy.
it is typical of the left to try to legislate "fairness" because the message of the left does not attract people on it's own merits. their agendas don't wash with the people, so they force their agendas in court. their talk does not register with the people, so they want the courts to force the people to listen.
sounds a little Hugoish to me.....how far behind is Stalin?
June 20th, 2007 at 8:46 pmWhat a grand waste of money. They should have done a study on why liberal talk radio continues to fail. But, ooohhhhh no.
Liberal radio continues to fail, so they go after conservative talk radio.
Silencing the opposition. That seems to be the #1 priority of liberals. Nice!
June 20th, 2007 at 8:46 pmIt always comes down to $$. Conservative radio draws listeners and ratings. Listeners and ratings draw attention. Attention draws companies willing to pay for commercials. Commercials pay the bills. If the "progressive movement" can draw listeners they will get the money. If they can get the money they will get the air time. Doesn't take a genius to figure out. Whatever happed to "laissez-faire?"
June 20th, 2007 at 8:46 pmThe problem, of course is that liberal radio programs suck and do not draw flies. Successful conservatives engage the intellect, and constuct logical arguments whereas liberal programs are generally all about personal attacks, emotion, bad taste, general depravity and sarcasm. This is not interesting listening over a long time period-and God knows that they have tried. Each new liberal "savior" fails to draw an audience and goes down in flames. So liberals, having been trounced in the marketplace of ideas want the Federal government to mandate "equal time?" What a joke. No doubt they will support that idea across all other media platforms where they dominate--yeah sure. How about giving up your monopoly in the public schools while you are at it? I'd support that!
June 20th, 2007 at 8:47 pmYour entire view of this subject is apparently from the perspective of the average ostrich, except you do not have your head in the sand, rather it is in an area where the sun never shines!
June 20th, 2007 at 8:47 pmFace the fact, real Americans want to hear about real topics. Conservatives do an excellent job at providing a real world outlook on life....
...where-in the leftwing hate squads fail to grasp that Americans do not want to listen to drug abusing gay-rights(?) pushing faggots who blame this country for everything and openly side with Jihad over US Troops....
June 20th, 2007 at 8:47 pmDon't do it liberals. You moonbats will get your ass handed to ya. But then you "intellectuals" aren't known for making good choices. Dumbasses.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:49 pmTalk radio is the best outlet most Americans have to voice our opinions. All this hullaballoo from the elitists and congress about "talk radio" running the country is just another way of saying, "the American people are trying to run the country, and we just can't have that." Progressives (i.e., liberals) won't be happy until free speech is taken away from all who disagree with them.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:49 pmRead the fine print of what these "progressive" think tanks and pols want. The "Fairness Doctrine" would take AM radio back to where it was in the 80s and before. In other words, no conservative radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:49 pmThe media still is dominated by the far left so I do not know why this radio thing is an issue. Plus as someone already said, the far left controls NPR. Also, keep in mind the liberals have had plenty of opportunities to enter talk radio with programs such as Air America, BUT failed because there is either no demand or there alreasdy is so saturated because the vast majority of the media is liberal.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:49 pmThree letters for you...
N.....P......R
kthx
June 20th, 2007 at 8:50 pmLoL billy.... nuff said.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:51 pmN....P....R......
..Not Presenting Reality......?
June 20th, 2007 at 8:52 pm"anyone who criticizes Israel is an anti-semite Nazi"
A Nazi - not always. Anti-Semitic - yes, almost always.
"Anti-Zionism is intrinsically related to anti-Semitism for Prager. He asked why the existence of Pakistan or Panama have never been in question, although they were also carved out of previously-existing countries.
“Of all the states on Earth, every one of which was created in bloodshed, only one has its existence constantly challenged,†he said. “And then we wonder why people equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism.â€
http://www.stanforddaily.com/article/2003/5/9/pragerArguesAgainstAntizionism
ks
June 20th, 2007 at 8:52 pmThis is a long discussion and I'm not going to read everything that was posted earlier. I have one point and then I'm going back to work.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:54 pmI think conservatives are missing the point of this attempt to dust off the fairness doctrine. It's not to silence conservatives. Progressives have not been successful in this format, and this way they can squeeze in on conservative success. Ed Shultz would love to tag along with Rush. Al Sharpton can't wait to tag along with Hannity. Can't wait for the Glen Beck/Chuck D program.
Ultimately if the arguement is to regulate fairness on the "public airwaves," where does it stop, and who decides whats fair or not. It's just a bad idea. The end of the fairness doctrine just may have saved AM radio. Consumers and the free market always make the right call, lets not screw it up.
Why does this big study even consider radio stations in LA, SF, NYC, and Phila --- super liberal blue cities!
Quiz for any lib - without looking, what station is Rush on in NYC? What station is Hannity on in DC? What station is Hewitt on in LA? Can't do it? That's because libs don't listen to conservative talk radio. How about this - liberals can keep their NPR, and normal people can have the conservative talk stations the survey is crying about.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:55 pmI think the Left misses Communism. They had a monopoly on radio (and TV) behind the Iron Curtain. They also massacred 100 million people to keep the "progressive thought" pure. But don't sweat it, Putin is not exactly hiding the fact that he wants to return to the good old days of Stalin. Maybe these "progressives" can get air time on Radio Moscow.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:56 pmTHE PROBLEM IS THAT LIB'S DON'T CARE ABOUT TALK RADIO TO INFORM THEM THEY PREFER MUSIC STATIONS, WHY? THE GOVERNMENT WILL TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:56 pmThey forget that the talk radio crowd --- driving to work, listening at home, housewife, blue-collar blasting the radio at a factory or construction site --- are overwhelmingly conservative.
Remember Air America? No one listened and it flopped.
Also, I fail to see how Houston has 0% liberal talk radio in a large market. Clearly the methodology was skewed to get the answer they wanted. I don't appreciate these Chavistas trying to take over the radio by any means necessary even if the people don't want it. ABAJO CAP!!
June 20th, 2007 at 8:56 pm"The problem, of course is that liberal radio programs suck and do not draw flies."
Actually, liberal radio does draw flies. That's it's core problem!
: )
KS
June 20th, 2007 at 8:57 pmThe entire mainstream media is Leftist, REGRESSIVE (what you people call "progressive" - yeah the USSR was "progressive" right?), vehemently anti-White, and generally against anything good and normal - the things that made this country ACTUALLY progressive in the TRUE sense (like landing on the moon and building the Chrysler building). But that isn't enough for the degeneracy-peddlers - they have to try to shut up anyone who can remind people of how this country was once great before these idiots destroyed it.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:57 pmYou Liberal Cowards never stop your corrupt attempt to take over America! The Reason Talk Radio is so popular with conservative America. Every word a liberal speaks is a lie or political motivated. Rush and Hannity scare liberals so they want to shut them down. Because they speak the truth, They Educate the population, And that scares liberals. They know they can't compete with someone with talent and knowledge. The more you try to silence the right! the more you will Fail. We are all smarter than you think! Take back America!!!!!!
Proud American
June 20th, 2007 at 8:58 pmSo, in reading the responses I notice the following:
Those with liberal views resort to name-caling first, loudest and in the most hurtful ways.
Why is it they can't voice an opinion or refute a position without calling someone else names?
Oh -- and conservative viewpoints that make sense? Neal Bortz for one.
Finally -- why is that the writer of this article chooses to use the terms "conservative" and "progressive" (instead of Liberal)?
Air America has been in the bottom of the bucket and out of money for years now. If this format was so enlightening and what the people wanted to hear then it would have taken off by now. Al Franken is stupid and so are the rest of the far left.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:58 pmLibs are all about tolerance (and the 1st Amendment) until the time comes to tolerate opposing views. Then the personal attacks start, the language gets vile, and idiotic talk of a "fairness doctrine" begins. Until they can compete in the arena of ideas, they'll be in the same shape on the talk radio waves. Liberals have been talking the same tired junk for 40 years. Come up with something new boys and girls.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:59 pmGood call lee. A couple dudes, called Adam Smith and Benjamin Franklin, promoted this crazy idea of laizze-faire. Its kind of what instigated the "no taxation without representation" gig. "The basic idea is that less government interference in private economic decisions such as pricing, production, consumption, and distribution of goods and services makes for a better (more efficient) economy." (Wikipedia) The radio waves are a business. If two of our most respected forefathers based this nation on that idea it might be worth considering.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:59 pmVV, you'll have to explain this to quote to me. First, there is a long tradition of anti-semitism in America. Perhaps you've heard of the S.S. St Louis, Gentleman's Agreement, and university quotas?
Christians consider both Jews and Muslims to be pernicious heretics who will burn in the deepest ring of Hell. I'd say that gives them the right to be called anti-semites by both these Middle Eastern peoples.
America's Left was predominately lead by Jewish Communists and Socialists. One should not confuse the Jewish American Left with the Jewish American Right. Yitzak Rabin once refered to the latter as "scumbags".
And VV, why are you trying to derail this thread from the topic of Right Wing Talk Radio? Bigotry is the name of the game in Talk Radio. The Redneck Yahoos who proffer crackerjack wisdom to the Dittoheads have no problem denigrating Jews, Muslims, African Americans, Asians, the French, Hispanics, and Native Americans.
The fundamental premise of Rightwing Talk Radio is that the Inner Circle is All-knowing and All-powerful: that the Poor are criminals, the Rich are saints, Might is right, and Money is salvation. These clowns believe in Noble Lies and Necessary Illusions: Not a word they say is honest or sincere.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:00 pmyou libs own the tv networks, most newspapers, and hollywood. You turn young skulls full of mush into mind-numbed robots from grade level through college, and now you want radio. You guys simply can't compete in the arena of ideas so now you want the govt. to step in and force your idiotic ideas on us. you are all pathetic little cry babies.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:00 pmWhat about the liberal dominance in television? I assume you want that "corrected" as well.
The reason conservatives dominate talk radio is because their ideas are better, the shows are better presented and produced and they win in the only competition that really matters .. ratings.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:00 pmI used to get real excited about political views and disagreements, until I realized I was wasting my life following passionately people who would sell my eyes out of my skull for one more vote or one more dollar. Whores who are playing you all for fools.
Read over these comments and look at the absolute hatred of other Americans that is going on here.
No Tolerance for "Diversity" of opinion or view. Hows that for progress?
It is almost laughable that you would find all this vitriol on a web site whose name contains "Think" and "Progress" on the same line.
I hate to use such a cliche,,, but step away from the professional hating that you excuse by calling it politics, and get yourself a life.
Get a dog, pay attention to your family, get a girl/boy friend, and enjoy the rest of your relatively short ass life on this planet.
Clint
June 20th, 2007 at 9:00 pmAny guess why they didn't also do a study on newspapers or television news stations? Oh yeah.....right.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:01 pmProve it Mike, links, sources ... you know the form....
June 20th, 2007 at 9:01 pmLast time I checked, it was still legal to be a conservative. These guys want to suppress free speech...yeah, that's real "progressive" of them, thanks. Their real agenda is to crush dissent and promote liberal propaganda and misery that no one wants to listsen to in the first place. The so-called "fairness doctrine" is un-American and should be absolutely opposed by all those who want freedom. If these guys want to complain about media ownership, then why don't their liberal friends just go buy some radio stations. It's called free market capitalism. Get a clue.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:01 pmHey Liberals, Conservatives will trade you our talk radio dominance for your dominance of newspaper journalism , major broadcast and cable netwok TV, local TV , Hollywood and Academia (K thru the university level).
Deal?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:01 pmLiberals are under the impression that conservatives develope their view points because they're exposed to nothing but Rush or Hannity on that drive home from work. It couldn't possibly be that we had those views all along and enjoy listening to opinions that correlate with our own. They think if you forcefully implant equal amounts liberal views on the radio, instead of simply turning it off, we'll all go out and buy Prius's and campaign for Dennis Kucinich eventually. It's how they often insult the intelligence of groups they are trying to win over by insinuating they are just mindless, malleable sheep. Notice which point of view in these responses uses the most immature profanity in their posts? That comes from the rage they feel because they are so much smarter than the rest of us and we just don't get it.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:02 pmLook, guys, it's not the government's job to tell radio, TV, or any other kind of programmer what to put on his or her station. The fact is, liberal talk radio just plain fails. Not because people don't listen, but because NOT VERY MANY people listen. Just look at the former "Air America" station in Columbus, Ohio. The ratings were in the tank, and sponsors were jumping ship because virtually nobody heard their ads. No that the format has "gone conservative," the ratings are up and the advertisers are back. It's just capitalism at work. But then again, that's the problem, isn't it?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:02 pmThe scarey thing is that you have people out there supporting this stuff. Regulate Regulate Regulate. This is a war of ideas and the liberal media is losing. The only thing they can think to do is to limit the freedom of speech and press. The constitution is very inconvenient for the psycho left.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:02 pmand another thing -- global warming is not caused by burning oil. Its just as likely that we humans, who have doubled in number over the past 100 years, all with temperatures above 98 degrees are as much of a reason for the warming. Liberals, who are anti-capitalist and therefore communists, would probably advocate the decimation of entire populations if they get their hands on this news.
in actuality, increased solar activity is the main cause for global warming, after all, Mars is warming at the same rate and we haven't burned a thing there yet.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmWell said.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmA "progressive" group puts out a report criticizing the number of conservative radio programs... is it any wonder they call for "diversification" of programming?
Liberals cannot compete in the arena of ideas... if they could, their actually would be more liberal talk shows... with the exception of NPR (and public funding), nothing else has really succeeded... I wonder why? Maybe it's because peeople don't want to listen to how bad and evil they are and that only the government can make it better... people want hope and self-reliance, a common theme in "conservative talk radio.
Oh, and "progressive" is just a liberal in sheeps clothing... a rose by any other name is still a rose.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmI all for it if we do the same with print and TV media. Are the liberals up for this? I do not think so. Why? Because they are not complaining about the print or TV media. It suits their purpose and that is why they are only up for this. Radio, just like other media, is derived from listeners (or subscribers) and if the numbers are there, the program will survive. I challenge anyone to give me hard facts (actual program name, numbers, etc.) to prove this ridiculous point of view. Remember the FCC regulates the so called liberal TV outlets that are overwhelming liberal in their point of view; therefore, this conspiracy by the conservatives to control the radio, is a clear example of liberals wanting to silence free speech.
P.S. Why is it that at college campuses the liberals are the one's getting violent when they hear another point of view? Why are the conservatives calm?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmExcept for the internet, talk radio is almost the only forum left for conservatives and that is why it has done so well. We listen. Main stream media is so far left they don't realize where the center is. PBS is the same. Most print media is the same. If the left had its way, the right will only be allowed tom-toms to communicate their message. We will find a way for our voice to be heard one way or another until free speech is denied to us. Oh and by the way is "liberal" now so dirty a word that you changed your name to - Progressive? I am proud to be a conservative and everything it stands for - liberty, individualism, pride in accomplishment, self reliance, etc. I never want to be a ward of the state or dependent on others. Get a grip left. Your message is rotten, decayed, full of helplessness and hopelessness all cloaked in a "bleeding heart"mentality.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmI got to this story from drudge report, and the first thing that jumps out at me is the twisting of language terms. Specifically, I note the use of the terms "conservative" and "right-wing", which are fair descriptors of radio hosts like rush limbaugh, but instead of "left wing" and "liberal", which are fair descriptors of air-america types, the term "progressive" is used which isnt really accurate. Not all leftist, liberal positions are "progressive", nor are all conservative, right-wing positions "regressive" ( which is implied by the use of the more favorable "progressive" applying only to leftist positions. ) I can think of quite a few contrasts between left-wingers and right-wingers that would suggest exactly the reverse. Example 1: Education. Think of all of the millions of poor, inner-city kids who get short-changed and denied fair opportunities by pathetic, miserable, failed public school-systems. The libs, the leftists, the beaurocrats, and the teacher's unions are all that stands between those kids and a voucher-based system where parents have a choice where to spend their own tax dollars among schools who COMPETE for the PRIVELEDGE of educating our kids. Conservatives want reform, opportunity, fairness,and accountability. The so-called progressives resist reform and progress at the expense of kids. Example 2... Housing. Libs created the urban blight of public housing projects. Conservatives changed that disaster by channeling funds into loans for low-income home OWNERSHIP, where people have a stake in their own future. Again- a case of "progressive" conservative thinking accomplishong results where the libs cling to the failures of big government. Conservatives took the failed welfare state of the 70's and broke the multi-generational cycle of reliance and poverty by setting limits on welfare, and by forcing people off the welfare roles into the workplace,therebye improving the lives of millions of children whose parents work now, instead of live on the dole. Again, conservative progress and reform of regressive liberal failures. Republicans want social security reform, investment, and personal involvement in personal retirement accounts, which could save social security with better returns on peopl's money. Libs want to stick to the same failed system that cannot meet it's obligations to our seniors because all the money went into the general funad and got spent. The current social security system is nothing but a liberal ponzi-scheme. Again, conservatives want reform and progress, libs are regressive and resist change. I could go on and on. Liberals do NOT deserve the title of "progressive". Maybe once upon a time it was true, but we have seen the disaterous consequences of big government, high-taxes, and income re-distribution, and social engineering. It's failed everywhere in the world it's been tried. Conservatives ARE progressives now. So let's get the terms straight. As for the imbalance between conservative an LIBERAL ( not progressive ) talk radio, it's all about economics. The radiostations make their money with advertising. They sell the most advertising by airing programming that the people want to listen to. Nobody really wants to listen to a bunch of liberal crap, which is why air-america goes bankrupt, and people like Rush Limbaugh etc. have the ratings, and the advertisers. It's that simple. Liberals dont like the fact that people dont choose to listen to them as much as conservatives, so they try to force it down people's throats unwilllingly by advocating forced "fairness" of viewpoint expression. Libs- if you cant compete in the fair marketplace of ideas with the crap you spew, maybe you should try getting some new ideas. You cant force people to listen to you. And quit trying to change the argument by changing the terms. Liberals are "progressives" like Al Gore's tax increases were " investments in the infrastructure". Stop insulting our intelligence. You cant change what something is by changing what you call it.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmWow, judging from the most recent comments, some Righties feel awfully threatened by the concept of equal time. If it hadn't been for Reagan's ignoring the Fairness doctrine, Rush would be cleaning toilets in some fifth-tier station. He has yet to have on anyone not prescreened, or who he will not silence by cutting their mike, if the truth gets too uncomfortable. The Big media are corporate-dominated, you bunkered fools. Only a rats-in-the-corncrib-crazy conservative would hold to the fiction of "liberal media," you freakish dinosaurs.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmSpudge Boy, you're a dumb ass who ought to drop out of whatever college was stupid enough to take you.
Real news doesn't make a profit? Where does that proverb come from?
According to your theory, then, anything that has horrible ratings may be "real news," and whatever makes a profit must be false. Nice syllogism.
Did it ever occur to you that people don't listen to the "progressive" stations because they detect that what they're hearing sounds false, or at least one-sided? Adults hate being lied to.
You work with newspapers, TV, and radio? Figures.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmumm i thinks its more about what brings in the money & the public obviously perfers conservative radio over (progressive radio) aka liberal radio. if this wasnt the case than conservative radio wouldnt be number 1 would it???? its about public demand not evil conservatives buying up radio.
this is just another attempt by the left to deminish free speech because conservative radio proves them wrong all the time. the left only knows how to bitch about everything. thier ideas?? well they never really come up with anything. this is why nobody listens to thier radio shows, to be about as blunt as possible they really are a waste of air time.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:04 pmHey !! Spoodge_Boy!! Try taking that thing our of your mouth before you speak.
The truth is that liberals are the true fascists in America. If the 'free' market doesn't work in your favor then you want a government mandate. So you work in the media... BFD... So how does that must make you an expert on free markets... My God you are ignorant !!!
It seems that most of names they call the conservatives are really applicable to themselves. The dems are the real fascists and party of greed.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:04 pmAfter 9/11 happened, I began listening to the radio again. One day while driving the car, I was tired of the non-stop coverage of the 9/11 attack, and I changed the station. The new station played the same program, exactly. The next button, the same thing happened. All the stations were playing the same broadcast. That is when I found out about Clear Channel, that they'd bought most of the radio stations in my town. It was pretty stunning.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:04 pmI think a larger point is missed here, if the Liberal talkshows could make it in the markets across the country there would be no issue. There is no optimism in Liberal talk radio, there is however, anger, divisivness, the over all assumption that America needs to be ashamed of who she is..... who wants to listen to that?!
Nickel
June 20th, 2007 at 9:05 pmThere's a simple concept in play here: it's called the free market.
When you have a product people want, they consume it, or in this case, listen to it. When you have a product people do not want, they leave it alone, or tune to another station. That's why Limbaugh, Hannity, et. al., have been wildly successful, and Al Franken, Randi Rhodes and Air America were last seen southbound in the porcelain alter (that's a toilet, for those of you in San Francisco). So then does this mean that conservative voices will be heard in equal amounts on NPR, PBS and CNN? Maybe when pigs fly and donkeys sing opera it will happen, but not before then.
To try to control what people say and think, no matter how much you may disagree, is censorship, and unconstitutional (you remember that pesky 1st amendment thing). Comrades Lenin and Stalin were fans of restricted, government controlled speech. Chairman Mao was in favor of political correctness for the good of the Party. So when you advocate reinstating the "Fairness Doctrine", you have started down a slippery slope towards totalinarianism.
People have the right to speak their mind. What people do not have is the right to make anyone listen to a certain viewpoint. Intelligent people can decide to listen to both if the choose and make up their own mind in a fair and balanced society.
There are two sides to every story, and somewhere in the middle lies the truth.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:05 pmWho is John Galt?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:05 pmWhat the fukc, 75% of the past 40 posts look like they have been pre-fabricated and pasted by the same person!!!!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:05 pmConservatives own the entire news media and they can't hanlde someone with a different opinion so they stump them out. Look at olbermann people want him off the air eve tho he's the highest rated program on MSgop.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:05 pmDrudge linked to this site so all the slopheaded morons who get all their "Facts" from Rush are posting.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:06 pmIf there was a problem with too much conservative talk radio, then Air America would not have been such a boondoggle to try to run. The problem is is that liberal drivle does not sell...advertisers don't want to pay for it. As they already have the major networks as their mouthpieces, then I don't see the problem....if you don't like what talk radio is saying, turn it off...or get satellite radio that offers leftists stations to listen too.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:06 pm"Oh, and “progressive†is just a liberal in sheeps clothing… a rose by any other name is still a rose."
Comment by Greg
So what? It's better than being a traitorous conservative. I laugh at how Bush has exposed conservatism for the sham it always was. And you boneheads stood by and cheered as he did it. Have fun in the political wilderness, you frauds ...
June 20th, 2007 at 9:06 pmWhat the fukc, make that the past 50 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:06 pmMaybe that is because the audience is "buying the message". Let us face it---most of the people are conservative.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:07 pmtypical - leftists always need to implement commie-like solutions, can't compete use the government to shut down what most people want. when will these goddamn socialists and communists realize they are hated by the free and loathed by capitalists.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:07 pmMost of the audience is conservative.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:08 pmWow. Spudge Boy's rational, reasoned, and eloquently stated posts have really got me taking his point of view seriously. Did someone skip their anger management class this week?
As to your comment on anti-Semitism. True. The issue is really that the word itself is a bit of double speak. An attempt to disguise anti-Jewish actions as targeting a race, rather than a religion. And naming things creatively is an extremely old tactic. Try these on for size: Partial Birth Abortion. Pretty horrific, no? Death Tax. Ouch. They're even taxing dead people! ZOMG!
Another similar tactic is lumping an observation along with a theory and then pretending that anyone doubting the theory is also doubting the actual observation. Global Warming is a good example. Evolution is another.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:08 pmOK, Lets have equal time on Print and TV Media...... What is that liberal silence? Yes, they are ignoring the Print and TV Media WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:08 pm"I think a larger point is missed here, "
Comment by Nickel
How could we miss it? It's right on your freakin' forehead ...
June 20th, 2007 at 9:08 pmIf Ted Turner and Les Moonves are conservatives, than I am a product of immaculate conception!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:08 pmBarfly,
June 20th, 2007 at 9:08 pmwe conservatives are not"threaten" by anything. You "progressives" own the patent for "paranoia". We just get frustrated sometimes that we can't have an intelligent conversation with you on the left without you name calling after 30 seconds. The definition of a "racist, bigot, homophobe, and Nazi" is a conservative winning an argument with a liberal. It's like talking to children. Not threatened, just exhausted sometimes.
That's all.
People have the right to speak their mind. What people do not have is the right to make anyone listen to a certain viewpoint. Intelligent people can decide to listen to both if the choose and make up their own mind in a fair and balanced society.
There are two sides to every story, and somewhere in the middle lies the truth.
>> I could not agree more. The rights we have in this country are so important to who we are as a nation. When we start taking away the very rights that make us, intelligent people then we are in BIG BIG trouble. Many times by listening to the other side so to speak it makes me affirm my beliefs even more.
Nickel
June 20th, 2007 at 9:09 pmWow, judging from the most recent comments, some Righties feel awfully threatened by the concept of equal time. If it hadn’t been for Reagan’s ignoring the Fairness doctrine, Rush would be cleaning toilets in some fifth-tier station. He has yet to have on anyone not prescreened, or who he will not silence by cutting their mike, if the truth gets too uncomfortable. The Big media are corporate-dominated, you bunkered fools. Only a rats-in-the-corncrib-crazy conservative would hold to the fiction of “liberal media,†you freakish dinosaurs.
What did I tel lyou about calling others names barfly?
Just can't compete can you? If reagan had gone along with the so-called fairness doctrine, we'd be speaking russian or chinese by now.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:09 pmWho said President Bush was a conservative, Barfly?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:09 pmWhen Air America was launched, the rest of the media did everything they could to promote it and publicize it. I failed miserably even with all the hype, none of which got Limbaugh, Hannity, Boortz, Ingraham, Levin et al where they are. If liberals want to succeed in talk radio, they have to have a message that is more than NPR with commercials hosted by angry, hateful, arrogant handwringing amateur cranks.
In the HBO documentary "Left of the Dial," it was obvious AA would fail--humorless, snide and juvenile commetary beneath the average college sophomore delivered by people who (other than Rhodes) had no experience in radio, and little to say other than "Bush is stupid." OK, Al Franken & Janeane Garofolo, we understand you hate President Bush and the GOP and you're against everything they stand for--tell us what you're FOR. Screamin' Howie Dean's campaign couldn't sustain that level of hate by a loud amateur, and neither could AA. Liberal talk radio failed because there is no mass audience that "hates" people of other political persuasions, and it will always fail in a free market.
That liberal views must be forced on the audience says volumes ( and nothing good) about liberals, who give lip service only to "tolerance and diversity," but who prove themselves intolerant of any viewpoint that challenges them.
Hugo Chavez did what US liberals wish they could, and certainly would if they could.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:09 pmThis is BullS%^.... stop whining liberals. .... Nobody wants to listen to your whining and your radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:09 pmYes, they are ignoring the Print and TV Media WHY?
Comment by Marvin — June 20,
Because corporate media love those Bush tax cuts ...
June 20th, 2007 at 9:09 pmI find it funny that the cons still think all the news media except fox news of course is liberal. They of course never give any proof, its just something they heard on rush.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:10 pmHint to Prog programming “gurus†- shrill, whiny progressivism doesn’t sell. Ever listen to Democracy NOW! or another popular snoozecast, Pacifica Radio??? Comment by valiant venus — June 20, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
As opposed to the shrill, whiny hateful conservatism that Ann C*nter, and Rush F*t*ss, Bill O'Silly - and of course YOU - ST*PID C*NT - spew on radio, TV and the blogs? You f*ckers are the whiny-ist st*pidest little c*nts around - how *funny* - c*nt that all you can do is see the shrill in others! What can we expect, considering what a hateful little MySpace 24 year old Anorexic c*nt?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:10 pmAre you kidding with this fascist nonsense? When you refer to free press do you mean that only the liberal press should be free? If people don’t like conservative radio they can always turn to NPR. They’re federally funded and completely liberal. Or they can turn to ABC, CBS, or NBC News or CNN and MSNBC. Why don’t you do the same study on network news and call for the regulation of the liberal network news media. You people are such hypocrites. You call yourself progressive? You’re no different than the Nazis and Fascists that brainwashed people into believing what they wanted. You’re pathetic!!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:10 pmIf they tried the same report for television, they'd make themselves look like fools.
http://www.hardcorepolitics.com
June 20th, 2007 at 9:10 pmYou communists (not progressives) are the biggest hypocrites of all. There is something here called free speech and the government has no right to regulate free speech on the radio. There is also this great economic system we have here called capitalism where the market decides what they want.
Talk radio is dominated by conservatives because a majority of americans are center/right thinkers and it is what they listen to. Guys like Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Beck, etc would not be on the air if they didn't generate ratings. Even people that hate them tune in every day just to get their blood pressure raised. Some of those people convert and see the light and become conservatives.
If you want fairness buy radio stations and radio shows and compete rather than cry like a bunch of whiny babies about it. Air America tried it but they found out nobody wanted to listen to their drivel as they bankrupted themselves and bounced check after check.
The only reason talk radio is getting this level of attention is because they called out Bush / McCain / and Kennedy on their horrible illegal alien amnesty bill. Both the sellout Republicans and the Communist party of America have turned their sights on talk radio to silence it so they can push their bill that is against the will of a majority of americans.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:10 pmThis study is a thinly veiled attempt to counter the popularity of conservative talk through regulation or legislation. "If we can't win then we'll make it illegal"
June 20th, 2007 at 9:10 pmInteresting how liberals are the first to cry bias, racism, etc.when they don't get their way.
So, why didn't the study include the "Main stream media" bias? Oh, that's ok because it's a liberal bias!
I love it that liberals get so child like in their arguments, and they want to run the country? LOL
June 20th, 2007 at 9:11 pmSo what? It’s better than being a traitorous conservative. I laugh at how Bush has exposed conservatism for the sham it always was. And you boneheads stood by and cheered as he did it. Have fun in the political wilderness, you frauds …
Comment by barfly
Thanks for the laugh barfly...
June 20th, 2007 at 9:11 pmProgressive? You farging dolts!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:11 pmHOORAY! Let's have more government intervention in our lives! You know... I've noticed that an overwhelming majority of university professors are "progressive." We need to enact legislation that calls for an equal number of "conservative" professors. Strictly in the name of fairness, of course... Then we can move on to journalists!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:11 pmWho said President Bush was a conservative, Barfly?
Comment by John W
Nice try.
Now, suddenly he's NOT conservative? That's because conservatism was and is a sham - and you obviously swallowed it like creamed style corn. Too bad you're now having buyer's remorse ...
June 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pmYou can see my forehead? Wow you are good. I bet you noticed its not as fat as yours.
Nickel
June 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pm“Oh, and “progressive†is just a liberal in sheeps clothing… a rose by any other name is still a rose.â€
Comment by Greg
Incorrect .... actually a “progressive†is a socialist in sheeps clothing
June 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pmI thought liberals believed in free speech; oh only if it’s on the left, hypocrites.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pmFirst of all the writers of the article need to cut the crap and say what they mean. Progressive is a synonym for liberalism. It's a snooty word that assume conservatives aren't progressive. If it were not for conservatives, the black man would be still saying yes mastah, don't beat me mastah!!!
The theology of progessiveness to victimize not empower. Clarence Thomas, and Condoleeza Rice are Uncle Toms because they achieved without being victims while the extortionist Jesse Jackson parlayed Martin Luther King's assassination into international fame.
Liberal talk radio is like trying to make lemonade out of toilet water. The only liberal talk show host I've found entertaining is Alan Colmes. I tried listening to Ed Schultz, The crew of Air-head America. It takes a lot of drugs, medicated and otherwise to put up with liberal talk radio.
Does this "fairness doctrine" extend to television, Hollywierd and major news media?
One thing the liberals don't realize about free speech is people have the right not to listen to it. Unless you are going to force the government to enact legislation to force people to listen to liberal radio, you still won't have an audience. Air America can't even buy listeners.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pmWow, I love it when liberals get nasty....
June 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pmAs opposed to the shrill, whiny hateful conservatism that Ann C*nter, and Rush F*t*ss, Bill O’Silly - and of course YOU - ST*PID C*NT - spew on radio, TV and the blogs? You f*ckers are the whiny-ist st*pidest little c*nts around - how *funny* - c*nt that all you can do is see the shrill in others! What can we expect, considering what a hateful little MySpace 24 year old Anorexic c*nt?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
Wow, that was intelligent... nice to see your Ivy League education paying off for you...
June 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pmHey Barf fly, ever had to meet a payroll?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pmLiberals could not hold a person with a.d.d. attention long enough to spew their hate. Heck Cnn, MSNBC, CPAN, PBS, ABC, NBC, CBS and the list goes on.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pmoh puuhhleeease BARFLY -
You're inferring that its conservatives that have all the money. What an ignorant assumption. and you ignored the point made.
Liberals own and control the print media TV and most of the education institutions escept for FoxNews.
Why isn't there a move afoot to require conservative viewpoints at colleges, Hollywood and in newspapers?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pmWhere on earth did Crystalized get the idea that Ben Franklin promoted Laissez-faire economics? This is why we need balanced and fair talk radio. The current debate in America is so very one-sided and hopelessly ill-informed.
Ben Franklin wrote an essay titled A Modest Enquiry Into The Nature and Necessity of a Paper-Currency. In this essay, Franklin proposes many of the same principles that Keynes would advocate in the 1930s. Neo-cons and Free Marketeers looking to Franklin for a patron saint will be sadly disappointed.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pm"It always comes down to $$. Conservative radio draws listeners and ratings."
Fried baloney. If rightwing radio had to offer equal time, it would sink like a stone. That's what you sheep are afraid of.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pmOkay, following the logic of your argument, then what do we do with TV? ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN are unabashedly pro-liberal, and all we conservatives have is FOX news channel!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pmI would like to apply for the job deciding who can own radio stations and what they are allowed to broadcast. Where do I apply?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:14 pmTypical liberal -- call suppressing speech the center for the "free press."
The real question ought to be why the government is using tax dollars to support national public radio.
Can NPR and let the people decide what they want to listen to.
Perhaps its that the people already know that such as the Center for . . . Free Press" is simply a lot of BS.