REPORT: The Right Wing Domination Of Talk Radio And How To End It
REPORT: The Right Wing Domination Of Talk Radio And How To End It
The Center for American Progress and Free Press today released the first-of-its-kind statistical analysis of the political make-up of talk radio in the United States. It confirms that talk radio, one of the most widely used media formats in America, is dominated almost exclusively by conservatives.
The new report — entitled “The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio” — raises serious questions about whether the companies licensed to broadcast over the public radio airwaves are serving the listening needs of all Americans.
While progressive talk is making inroads on commercial stations, right-wing talk reigns supreme on America’s airwaves. Some key findings:
– In the spring of 2007, of the 257 news/talk stations owned by the top five commercial station owners, 91 percent of the total weekday talk radio programming was conservative, and only 9 percent was progressive.
– Each weekday, 2,570 hours and 15 minutes of conservative talk are broadcast on these stations compared to 254 hours of progressive talk — 10 times as much conservative talk as progressive talk.
– 76 percent of the news/talk programming in the top 10 radio markets is conservative, while 24 percent is progressive.
Two common myths are frequently offered to explain the imbalance of talk radio: 1) the 1987 repeal of the Fairness Doctrine (which required broadcasters to devote airtime to contrasting views), and 2) simple consumer demand. Each of these fails to adequately explain the root cause of the problem. The report explains:
Our conclusion is that the gap between conservative and progressive talk radio is the result of multiple structural problems in the U.S. regulatory system, particularly the complete breakdown of the public trustee concept of broadcast, the elimination of clear public interest requirements for broadcasting, and the relaxation of ownership rules including the requirement of local participation in management. [...]
Ultimately, these results suggest that increasing ownership diversity, both in terms of the race/ethnicity and gender of owners, as well as the number of independent local owners, will lead to more diverse programming, more choices for listeners, and more owners who are responsive to their local communities and serve the public interest.
Along with other ideas, the report recommends that national radio ownership not be allowed to exceed 5 percent of the total number of AM and FM broadcast stations, and local ownership should not exceed more than 10 percent of the total commercial radio stations in a given market.
Read the full report here.
“Our conclusion is that the gap between conservative and progressive talk radio is the result of multiple structural problems in the U.S. regulatory system, etc.”
In other words, it’s a rigged game.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:13 pmAnnouncing The Acronym For The New American Century: PALDTNTBCOAFTESR
June 20th, 2007 at 2:14 pm(”Politicians Are Like Diapers. They Need To Be Changed Often And For The Exact Same Reason”) Link to an excellent speech by RFK jr. on the privatization of our government through the illegal deregulation of our media.
there’s no conspiracy at work here. programmers would put on a talking fish if they thought it would get ratings. talk radio listeners want to hear conservative talkers. how do we know this? they get ratings, liberals don’t.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:16 pmWell, duh…
June 20th, 2007 at 2:16 pmAlong with other ideas, the report recommends that national radio ownership not be allowed to exceed 5 percent of the total number of AM and FM broadcast stations, and local ownership should not exceed more than 10 percent of the total commercial radio stations in a given market.
So what about the other 85% of the market? Dead air?
June 20th, 2007 at 2:17 pmIf you sell the FCC to your friends, then you get what you pay for! We can see with this and other graphic representations how to explain even the most complicated issue to america’s heartland. with the farm report, but forget the tornado warning. no longer required by law. no requirement of having an EWS to let folks know that trouble is coming. You can’t warn a pre recorded show about something happening now, it would throw off the timing of the show and the advertisers would get upset. that’s why it is canned.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:17 pmI would like to quote from Dan Hicks:
“Canned Music, Canned Music, playing on the radio
Canned Music, Canned music, without a dime it doesn’t go….
and so it goes
the best way to end it is a completely different path – close the FCC!!
All it does is make it so difficult and so expensive to broadcast that the only ones who can afford to do it are the mega-corporations.
Sound familiar?
Since the FCC started “regulating” we’ve only had the media consolidated more and more every single year.
Working great, isn’t it….
The solution is not more power, but rather, more freedom.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:18 pm“How to Make People More Responsible”
http://www.populistamerica.com/how_to_make_people_more_responsible
Can’t compete in the market so you want the government to force your views to people. Nice.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:20 pmthere’s no conspiracy at work here. programmers would put on a talking fish if they thought it would get ratings. talk radio listeners want to hear conservative talkers. how do we know this? they get ratings, liberals don’t.
Comment by Noahm — June 20, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
Wrong, Noahm. That’s a popular “common sense” misconception that doesn’t always hold true in the real world. There are many examples all across the country of liberal talk programs and/or whole station formats that did well with advertisers and got very good ratings, but were dumped in favor of lesser-performing formats, often into the face of direct competition in the markets.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:22 pmDoes anyone really believe liberals would even entertain this renewed passion for the fairness doctrine if talk radio were overwhelmingly liberal? It just strikes me as so transparently opportunistic and unprincipled. If a conservative were to argue that the state should get involved in making Hollywood, or the biggest newspapers, or the broadcast news networks, or leading museums, publishing houses, or universities less liberal, liberals would justifiably scream bloody murder about censorship and propaganda.
So, linking to a Jonah Goldberg post demonstrates the “myth” of the effects of the demise of the Fairness Doctrine? Weak, Faiz. Now I know why TP never endorses a renewed Fairness Doctrine – it conflicts with TP’s agenda.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:22 pmCan’t compete in the market so you want the government to force your views to people. Nice.
Comment by Kevin — June 20, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
Remember that the next time you want to bitch about the “liberal media”, Kevin.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:23 pmtalk radio listeners want to hear conservative talkers. how do we know this? they get ratings, liberals don’t.
Comment by Noahm
Please don’t tell me you sincerely believe that big a % of the country actually wants to listen to a shrill sociopath like Michael Weiner over and over again.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:23 pmCan’t compete in the market so you want the government to force your views to people. Nice.
Comment by Kevin
No, it’s called airing dissenting points of view – something Righties are terrified of!
June 20th, 2007 at 2:24 pmRemember that the next time you want to bitch about the “liberal mediaâ€, Kevin.
Comment by mikey r — June 20, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
I don’t need to wine to the government about it. The market takes care of it. That’s why Fox has the best ratings.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:26 pmthere’s no conspiracy at work here. programmers would put on a talking fish if they thought it would get ratings. talk radio listeners want to hear conservative talkers. how do we know this? they get ratings, liberals don’t.
Comment by Noahm — June 20, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
And the fact that you think this is about ratings is your first problem.
Real news doesn’t make money. Therefore ratings do not matter one iota. You would know that if you work with newspapers, magazines, radio and TV like I do.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:27 pmI don’t need to wine to the government about it. The market takes care of it. That’s why Fox has the best ratings.
Comment by Kevin — June 20, 2007 @ 2:26 pm
Real news doesn’t make money, so ratings don’t matter.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:28 pmCan’t compete in the market so you want the government to force your views to people. Nice.
Comment by Kevin — June 20, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
They are called PUBLIC AIRWAVES for a reason dumb fu*k.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:29 pmWho wants to listen to “America Sucks” all day? Liberals are shrill, weak minded and predictable. That makes them death on radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:29 pmSo what about the other 85% of the market? Dead air?
Comment by squegeebooo — June 20, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
No, other owners. Come on, you aren’t that stupid.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:29 pmLiberals are on the radio, its called NPR.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:30 pmCan we finally stop whining about the ‘liberal’ media?
June 20th, 2007 at 2:30 pmRethugs are likely to see this as interference with free enterprise. Don’t let them forget who owns the airwaves and grants the license for their use. They, of course, will claim “entitlement”. Freekin’ Welfare Queens.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:31 pmRamboTroll reports:
Thinkprogress.org needs “diversity” to be 90% “progressive” views and the other 10% being highly-regulated, “non-insensitive” conservative views.
Our records indicate the Demogarza party needing a full ouster before that one constitutional amendment is politicized any further.
It’s the “Rainbow-Push” coalition, only this time a push on Amendment #2.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:31 pmWho wants to listen to “America Sucks†all day? Liberals are shrill, weak minded and predictable. That makes them death on radio.
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
And who wants to listen to a bunch of gas bags talk abotu attacking other countries, but won’t go fight themselves? A bunch of 28%ers. Who all listen to the same exact thing. You are a bunch of brain washed zombies who think you are bad asses, but in reality are a bunch of blubbering pussies. Pussy.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:31 pmLiberals are on the radio, its called NPR.
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 2:30 pm
Wrong, NPR has been conservatized under Bush also. Get you fu*king facts straight.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:32 pmComment by RamboTroll — June 20, 2007 @ 2:31 pm
Did this idiot post anything in English?
June 20th, 2007 at 2:34 pmRoboTroll further reports:
Point in case: Airhead America’s demise is a strong indicator that the left-ings don’t have much of an economic clout in the radio industry.
Principals of Economics…*Liberal stomach churns*
June 20th, 2007 at 2:36 pmAirAmerica tried to push lefty views on radio. It failed because radio isn’t a good means of talking a message based on feelings and emotions. Logic and Common Sense play better on the radio which means conservative views win. TV does a way better job for the lefties as idea’s based 100% on emotions play better.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:36 pmBreak UP Big Media
Democracy requires de-centralized information sources.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:37 pm.
Comment by RamboTroll — June 20, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
Does dumb fu*k know that the word demise means dead. I listen to Air America every morning, so it can’t be dead. Dumb fu*king idiot trolls just make sh!t up.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:38 pmThis message has been brought to you as a public service by the good people at NeoFacistica. We don’t think America sucks, but we want to destroy it anyway. Urging you to say one thing, but do the opposite.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:38 pmSpudge_Boy
No, other owners. Come on, you aren’t that stupid.
What other owners?
National Broadcast companies can only own 5%
Local broadcast companies can only own 10%
That leaves a gap of quite a bit, even if there’s a legal difference between regional companies and national, or regional and local (not sure which they would be closer too) So it seems to me they are arguing for public broadcast companies to get a large % of the airways, or for those sections to go silent.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:39 pmIt is widely known that the MSM is liberal biased, and talk radio is conservative biased. I dont understand why the liberal want to remove the ability for conservatives to gather and talk via the airwaves… it is not like the MSM outlets would EVER consider giving non-biased reports or equal airtime to both sides of an issue… not with the 20 second spots that give you the “headlines”. Instead of a Fascist movement hell bent on shutting the opposition up, let’s let sleeping dogs lie… if Air America wants more airtime, broadcast to where the liberals are listening, i.e. the MUSIC CHANNELS.
Oh, and Spudge Boy… why resort to name calling. Very basic conversation ability is all that you are showing. One step above grunting and scratching yourself are comments like “…dumb fu*k”. Let’s keep it both positive and intelligent.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:39 pmThese people really influence the outcome of votes in some cases.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:39 pmI just want one liberal voice.
We’re all assuming people like to listen to radio they agree with. Maybe I’m the exception, but I enjoy radio that is extreme, the polar opposite to my views, and largely a caricature of the opinions it puts forth – which is to say, I listen to conservative talk radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:41 pmLogic and Common Sense play better on the radio which means conservative views win.
Name one logical conservative or one that has common sense.
Here I will give you an example:
Common sense told anybody, with common sense, that served in the military before March of 2003 that sending 145,000 troops to do what 600,000 troops could do in 1991 was a bad idea. All of the conservative radio show talking heads thought it would be a great idea and some of them still think it was a good idea.
Now you tell me who has common sense.
Nevermind I know your answer, idiot.
Your problem is that you have no common sense, so you don’t have any idea what the fu*k it is.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:42 pmThat leaves a gap of quite a bit, even if there’s a legal difference between regional companies and national, or regional and local (not sure which they would be closer too) So it seems to me they are arguing for public broadcast companies to get a large % of the airways, or for those sections to go silent.
Comment by squegeebooo — June 20, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
No they aren’t and I am not going to argue your baseless blather.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:43 pmRamboTroll updates:
Our records indicate that the word ‘diversity’ by the left has been long exposed as a sham-word for ‘complete takeover’ and ‘total elimination.’
RamboTroll Reporting Section ™. Remaining Lefties Preserved.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:44 pmSpudge… clean up tha language… or get back into the cave, man! What happened to intelligent dialogue?
June 20th, 2007 at 2:44 pmI’m on board with whoever it was that said it earlier: Something has got the Neocon Rethugs really scared. Must be indictments coming down, or something similar. Guess they’re trying to do with numbers what they couldn’t acheive with their propaganda/pseudoideology. These guys are coming out of the woodwork. Better call Tom Delay or Dale Gribble.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:44 pmOh please, we Liberals need to stop crying about this. We control television media, the BBC just came out with a self-report to see if their news was biased and they came to the conclusion that it was, that it was biased towards the Liberals. As they put it, the fault is do to the fact that in the BBC there is a group think mentality since everyone that works there is a Liberal.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/18_06_07impartialitybbc.pdf
stop you whinning and crying. I tried to blame Al Gore’s Presidential loss on Limbaugh and it didn’t work.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:44 pmSpudge… clean up tha language…
Go ahead and tell that to your kids. The sh!t that comes out of the right wigers is just as offensive as cuss words are to you. So, you make them stop first and I would be happy to. But, since that won’t happen, fu*k them and the horses they road in on.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:46 pmYou folks aren’t big on ‘free speech’ or ‘free-markets’ are you?
Sad little socialists.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:46 pmRamboTroll reports:
(Correction: Air America is circling the drain, but is on life support. It was bought some time by a couple of limosine liberals. Its remaining viewership includes ‘Spudge Boy’ and a few other tye-dye maggots.)
June 20th, 2007 at 2:48 pmComment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
We won’t stop until the propaganda machine is dismantled once and for all. And there is nothing you can do or say to stop the will of the people. The 72% of Americans that want America to remain the best country in the world will stop you and the rest of you NeoCons.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:49 pm(Correction: Air America is circling the drain, but is on life support. It was bought some time by a couple of limosine liberals. Its remaining viewership includes ‘Spudge Boy’ and a few other tye-dye maggots.)
Comment by RamboTroll — June 20, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
Correction: Air America was bought by a right wing real estate mogul who is turning it right wing as well. Get you facts straight moron.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:50 pmLiberals suck face the facts
June 20th, 2007 at 2:51 pmNoahm said: “talk radio listeners want to hear conservative talkers. how do we know this? they get ratings, liberals don’t.”
And they get really good rating when no listener has a choice! Funny thing our local Air-America station is extemely popular. First time in my 50 years that i’ve ever even listened to AM radio. If programmers would really put on a fish if it got ratings then how do you explain Glenn Beck? I know he’s cable and the topic here is talk radio, but i think his situation is a perfect example of programmres putting on conservatives no matter how badly they suck at ratings.
I think if they put a camera on Randy Rhodes for an hour a night instead of Beck their ratings would more than double. But we all know that would never happen even as an experiment. A week of Randy is just too scary. What if she was so bold as to say some GOPer candidate didn’t smell delicious, or is it smell manly, or whatever sort of scent you GOPer guys really like to smell in a male presidential candidate. I guess the number of male-scent-fetish listeners might drop off a bit. But that would be more than compensated for by the number of listeners that want to hear about what liberals consider more important issues — you know those things FOX hates to talk about like Iraq, health care, the shrinking middle class.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:51 pmSpudge –
there is a difference between opposing view (which only a fascist would find so offensive so as to demand it’s halting), and blatantly offensive and vulgar language.
The fact that you resort to blatantly offensive language, and upon confrontation it gets worse, I have to surmise that you are an uneducated individual with little or no place in a civilized conversation. Your opinion means absolutely nothing at this point, as you show no level of intelligence.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:51 pm71% of the Country doesn’t like you Leftists neither!
June 20th, 2007 at 2:52 pmLet’s try Air America II for the 40 or so morons here at TP.
Remember the “New Mainstream” are anything but mainstream.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:52 pmRamboTroll reports:
Scaredom is not pertinent to the side with the listeners and business saavy, Mr. Smafdy. You must be truly scared in order to have to resort to your biggy government to have your unpopular proganda forced on the majority of those who don’t want to hear it.
RamboTroll News Section ™. We are so scuurd.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:52 pmComment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
Go fu*k yourself concern troll.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:53 pmRegulating free radio seems like fodder for conservatives to call liberals a bunch of communists.
Yeah, conservative radio is dominating the mainstream, but it does not affect the political process. Otherwise President Bush wouldn’t have a minus 250% approval rating, and the Dems wouldn’t be controlling both houses.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:53 pmLiberals suck face the facts
Comment by Chris — June 20, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
And since 72% of Americans that live in the United Staes of America agree with us, then you must be talking about South Americans.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:54 pmHey you guys have all the media on your side. Just ask Bill Moyers the antichrist
June 20th, 2007 at 2:54 pmWhy am I forced to help pay for Lefty NPR?
…How would you patchouli skunks feel if your taxes helped to pay Rush Limbaugh?
June 20th, 2007 at 2:54 pmLet’s try Air America II for the 40 or so morons here at TP.
Remember the “New Mainstream†are anything but mainstream.
Comment by Flaco — June 20, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Read the posts Air America II is already in full swing. You will like it. It is going conservative, now that it is owned by a conservative.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:55 pmComment by Spudge_Boy
RamboTroll wasn’t made aware that Hugo Chavez blogged here at TP.
If you impose government-demographical control of the media, you lose the listening base. Simple as that.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:56 pmthere is a difference between opposing view (which only a fascist would find so offensive so as to demand it’s halting), and blatantly offensive and vulgar language.
Oh yeah concern troll, I never said it could be stopped. I said you go ahead and make them and I will. But, using common sense, you would know that they will never stop, so it is an empty request from me. You want to be a facist and make people halt, you go right ahead and while they aren’t stopping. I will respond however the fu*k I want. Got it?
June 20th, 2007 at 2:57 pmSpudge_Boy,
Read This you 24%.
Congressional Job Approval Dips Again This Month
According to the June 11-14, 2007, survey, 24% of Americans approve and 71% disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job.
http://galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27937
June 20th, 2007 at 2:57 pmI am not even vaguely embarassed to admit that I am a liberal. I have listened to the attempts to establish a counter to right wing talk radio and find it really unappealing. I believe that unlike our conservative bretheren I would prefer to listen to primary sources such as CSPAN than be told what to think. It would appear that I lack the “follow the leader” gene that seems to infect most right wingers.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:58 pmGo fu*k yourself concern troll.
And since 72% of Americans that live in the United Staes of America agree with us, then you must be talking about South Americans.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
**Spudge – your facts are flawed, and you are retarded. 72% of America disagrees with Bush (including me), but 78% disagree with the LIBERAL CONTROLLED CONGRESS… I think that the nearly 80% of Americans agree that AMERICA IS SCREWED UP, by BOTH PARTIES. The problem is corruption at the highest level, not JUST BUSH… open your mind, brotha!
June 20th, 2007 at 2:58 pmIf you impose government-demographical control of the media, you lose the listening base. Simple as that.
Comment by RamboTroll — June 20, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
Good you people need less programming in your brainwashing.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:58 pmDid you mean to say, “Liberals suck face: the facts.”
here’s one: neocons suck Dick is my witness.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:58 pmSpudge_Boy,
June 20th, 2007 at 2:59 pmBoth The Republicans and Democrats are dislike by the american people.
We’re tired of clowns like you and Bush serving yopur Islamic overlorfds.
We want a Free America!
Bloomberg 2008!
RamboTroll inquires:
“And since 72% of Americans that live in the United States of America agree with us……”
And from what poll would that figure be tallied?
June 20th, 2007 at 2:59 pmsmafdy,
June 20th, 2007 at 2:59 pmHow does it feel to be a 24%?
open your mind, brotha!
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
My mind is open. If you thin that I support the democrats, you need to come here more often. I have been posting here for years, not minutes like you. The biggest problem for Democrats in Washington IS THE DEMOCRATS IN WASHINGTON.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:00 pmsmafdy,
How does it feel to be a 24%?
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
You tell us. You are a 28%er.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:00 pmRamboTroll ,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:00 pmThe Democrats only have 24% support.
Notice the Islamic loving Leftists are ignoring this!
“And since 72% of Americans that live in the United States of America agree with us……â€
And from what poll would that figure be tallied?
Comment by RamboTroll — June 20, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Yeah, now that was THE stupidest question I have seen on these blogs in years.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:01 pmSpudge – you are an idiot. I never said that I am halting free speech… just requesting that you clean up your ignorant language…
June 20th, 2007 at 3:01 pmSteven M Nielson,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:01 pmYou’re a real Patriot!
Americans are sick of bothe parties!
Bloomberg 2008!
Why am I forced to help pay for Lefty NPR?
…How would you patchouli skunks feel if your taxes helped to pay Rush Limbaugh?
Comment by Ringo — June 20, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
NPR hasn’t been lefty in about 4 years. Take a listen, you’ll love it.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:02 pm“Liberals suck face the facts…”
In the context of sucking face, aka passionately kissing, the facts:
I receive this as a compliment.
Neo-cons blow the farts.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:02 pmSpudge_Boy,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:02 pmHey what about the 71% that is against Congress?
Hmm?
Why’re you avoiding this?
Hmmm?
mafdy,
How does it feel to be a 24%?
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Pretty good! And you?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:02 pmSpudge_Boy,
Both The Republicans and Democrats are dislike by the american people.
We’re tired of clowns like you and Bush serving yopur Islamic overlorfds.
We want a Free America!
Bloomberg 2008!
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
I don’t serve any religion. Religion was made up to keep crazies and retards entertained and out of trouble.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:03 pmThere are some right-leaning sources of information such as the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Times, and the average American.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:04 pmSpudge – congratulations… so this is my first time on THIS site, but that in no way diminishes the fact that I TOO have been blogging for some time. I happened upon this site via another blog…
Just because you have been here longer does not mean that you have ANY bit of knowledge on anything…
most Americans agree taht both parties are screwed up… if you would open your little mind, you may see that it is bigger than JUST a screwed up president.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:04 pmRamboTroll ,
The Democrats only have 24% support.
Notice the Islamic loving Leftists are ignoring this!
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
Congress has that rating. Because the Democrats can’t get anything done with the Republicans blocking everything. Just wait. You think America is filled with idiot, but it isn’t. They will remember come 2008.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:05 pm“It is widely known that the MSM is liberal biased”
Read much? Start with What Liberal Media? and go from there. Also, it’s apparent you don’t watch TV either. The right wing bias is breathtaking and hard to miss.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:05 pmSpudge – congratulations… so this is my first time on THIS site, but that in no way diminishes the fact that I TOO have been blogging for some time. I happened upon this site via another blog…
And what does this have to do with you knowing anything about me?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:05 pmSpudge_Boy,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:06 pmYes you do.
Are a blind Muslim loving Democratic hack.
You ignore the fact the Democrats are unpopular too!
You are part of the 24% of Blind Leftards.
You’re no different than the 28% of blind Bushbots!
Liberal bias of the mainstream media dates back to the Revolutionary War when the papers claimed the conflict was all about oil.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:06 pmKiki,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:06 pmThe Media is Pro-Muslim.
What world are you on!
most Americans agree taht both parties are screwed up… if you would open your little mind, you may see that it is bigger than JUST a screwed up president.
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
ANd when I said I posted here for a long time it was so that you would know that I have made my stance very clear and you would know that if you were a regular.
My stance is and has bee for longer than blogs have been around that Washington isn’t made up of Blue Dems and Red Repubs. It is all an ugly purpleish color of Republocrats.
Now get off your high horse.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:07 pmJoker – Thanks! But I am voting for a change in the party before I abandon… after the primaries, we will see… I am considering cancelling my party affiliation if my party dogs me in the primaries!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:08 pmSpudge_Boy,
“Congress has that rating. Because the Democrats can’t get anything done with the Republicans blocking everything. Just wait. You think America is filled with idiot, but it isn’t. They will remember come 2008.”
Yes in 2008 They will vote against both parties!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:08 pmYour a blind loyal Dhimmicrat hack!
24%!
“talk radio listeners want to hear conservative talkers. how do we know this? they get ratings, liberals don’t.”
Not exactly. In most regions where Air America Radio broadcasts, they either beat the local conservative hosts or are pretty close in ratings. The problems with progressive talk on the radio is not listeners, it is advertisers. And who are most of the advertisers on radio? Corporations, of course. And who are most corporations owned by? Conservatives, of course. Now, where do you suppose they spend their money?
If there were enough corporations willing to advertise on progressive radio (a situation I suspect will change radically when the Democratic President takes office in 2009), and when there are an equal number of progressive stations, then and only then will you be able to say “people don’t want to listen to Progressive talk radio”. Right now you can’t say that because, if there is not a progressive radio station to tune in to, then I guess people won’t be listening, will they!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:08 pmIn cable news, CNN is left leaning while FOX News is right leaning. The leanings of MSNBC is unknown since no one watches it.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:08 pmYou ignore the fact the Democrats are unpopular too!
You are part of the 24% of Blind Leftards.
You’re no different than the 28% of blind Bushbots!
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Here, I will repeat what I posted in #82 for you, since you can’t seem to read.
Congress has that rating. Because the Democrats can’t get anything done with the Republicans blocking everything. Just wait. You think America is filled with idiot, but it isn’t. They will remember come 2008.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:09 pmThen why did Err America go bankrupt?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:09 pmI am on no high horse… just trying to have an intelligent debate about this issue.
High horses aside, the problem lies in both camps, left and right, and this country is being torn abpart by one side or the other pulling for absolute power.
THAT is the problem… and vulgar language! :)
June 20th, 2007 at 3:09 pmIn Missoula Montana Air America had an affiliate that was stomping the conservative talkers. It was one of three stations that was sold to a company from Utah. The station changed formats and doesn’t boast nearly the market share that it had with AAR. It keeps changing it’s format trying to find something that works. It would seem that the format change had nothing to do with finding an audience.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:10 pmSteven M Nielson,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:10 pmI abondoned my party after I discovered Foreigners took control.
It’s over man.
Both Republicans and Democrats are controlled by Foreign interests that I will not name.
I belive that those on the Right should vote Libertarian and those on the Left should vote Green.
Let’s have a real Center-Right, Center-Left alternative!
In cable news, CNN is left leaning while FOX News is right leaning. The leanings of MSNBC is unknown since no one watches it.
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
So, you think Glenn Beck is left leaning? You are a moron. CNN hasn’t been left leaning in a long time. That is why Ted Turner said selling CNN was the biggest mistake he made in his entire life.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:10 pmComment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
We won’t stop until the propaganda machine is dismantled once and for all. And there is nothing you can do or say to stop the will of the people. The 72% of Americans that want America to remain the best country in the world will stop you and the rest of you NeoCons.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
Nice, you want to silence anyone that disagrees with you. Nice nazi tactics buddy.
Why don’t you create radio stations of your own, with liberal ideology and have them compete in the arean of ideas, in the free market.
Oh wait….that’s right, we did that, Air America and it failed miserably!!!
So, you fail in the radio markert, people are not tunning in, and then what you want to do is not keep on competing, but rather silence anyone that you disagree with.
nice, but we all know that we Liberals are not about diversity, about being open minded, about being tolerant, about accepting and listening to those we disagree with. We are all about ramming down the throat of everyone our ideology and what we believe is right.
Spudge_Boy and Smufdady, you both love to ignore the fact that the Democreatic Led Congress has a lower approval rating than our President.
typical intellectual dishonesty. Ignore the facts that prove you wrong.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:12 pmAnd who are most of the advertisers on radio? Corporations, of course. And who are most corporations owned by? Conservatives, of course. Now, where do you suppose they spend their money?
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So, tell the lefties to either (a) start advertising – there ARE leftist companies!, or (b) get off welfare, start a corporation, and advertise…
June 20th, 2007 at 3:12 pmThen why did Err America go bankrupt?
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
They didn’t go bankrupt. They filed Chapter 11 and were pulled out by aright wing real estate mogul in Chicago. Catch up.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:12 pmSteven M Nielson sez:
Well, SMN, you forfeited your right to request “intelligent debate” when you tried to sell the old “liberal media” canard.
Sorry…
June 20th, 2007 at 3:13 pmSpudge_Boy,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:13 pmYou are blinded by loyalty to your corrupt Party.
Like a true Cultist you don’t see the truth.
Keep drinkling Kool Aid!
In 2008 Both Parties will be swept out!
CNN hasn’t been left leaning since this morning.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:14 pm“Nice, you want to silence anyone that disagrees with you. Nice nazi tactics buddy.”
I didn’t say silence anybody, you did. I said stop your propaganda machine. So I guess you like propaganda.
“Spudge_Boy and Smufdady, you both love to ignore the fact that the Democreatic Led Congress has a lower approval rating than our President.”
Thanks to the Republicans.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:14 pmThe base of the Democratic party is thought to be angry, drunken dwarves, but they may in fact be gnomes.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:14 pmSpudge_Boy,
You are blinded by loyalty to your corrupt Party.
Like a true Cultist you don’t see the truth.
Keep drinkling Kool Aid!
In 2008 Both Parties will be swept out!
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
I don’t have a praty.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:14 pmSupdge_Boy,
71% of the Country doesn’t want you Socilaist state either!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:15 pmThey want Freedom.
Your party is bankrupt and is for loser just like the neocon.
You are no different than Neo-Cons!
You are Blind and dumb!
High horses aside, the problem lies in both camps, left and right, and this country is being torn abpart by one side or the other pulling for absolute power.
THAT is the problem… and vulgar language! :)
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
Look we have the same take on Washington. If you don’t like my cussing, well, sorry. I will not change. “I am mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore.”
June 20th, 2007 at 3:15 pmREPORT: The Right Wing Domination Of Talk Radio And How To End It
**sniff-sniff**The wafting odor of progressive cens*rship permeates the air. Face it – if conservative radio was as as bad as “progressive” talk, conservative radio would be broke and down the tubes, too. Whatever happened to Jim Hightower, Mario Cuomo, etc. – you remember those folks who were going to show conservative media to the woodshed? Note to Progs: IF people want to listen to you – they can….But what is it about ProgRadio that they cannot get and keep advertisers (you know, those frivolous people who pay the bills and want the “rubes” to buy their stuff?)
Seriously, what do you think we do, rig car radios so the channel can’t be changed and threaten bodily harm if our “minions” don’t listen. If you live in an area that is dominated by “revolting” righties on the radio, step up to a radio with more than one band width and tune in to Oldies, Heavy Metal, Hip-Hop….whatever. Maybe you think we shut down the opposition – ooops(!!) that’s something Leftard Hugo Chavez does.
Hint to Prog programming “gurus” – shrill, whiny progressivism doesn’t sell. Ever listen to Democracy NOW! or another popular snoozecast, Pacifica Radio???
June 20th, 2007 at 3:16 pmAny Republican, idiotic (oops, just repeated myself) trolls who argue that radio should be treated as a “free market” have no idea about bandwidth limitations and the fact that the U.S. airwaves are considered a public resource. There is no free market when the government controls the rights to use the resource.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:16 pmMonkey –
No… the MSM is overwhelmingly left… read the above link to the BBC where they did a self audit and determined that they were left…
Anyone want to debate this?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:16 pmMany Democrats intensely hate Bush because it’s easier than confronting the irrelevancy of their ideas. It’s funny to dump a bucket of cold water on them and hear them blame Haliburton.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:16 pmTo me this problem could be solved with some common sense. Right-wingers: quit lying on our public-owned airwaves. If you make a statement that is patently false, make a correction within 72 hours and you’re off the hook. If no correction is made, then you get a $200,000 fine per lie told.
Likewise, progressive radio would be held to this same standard. What are you afraid of right-wingers?
- Tom
June 20th, 2007 at 3:16 pmIn cable news, CNN is left leaning while FOX News is right leaning. The leanings of MSNBC is unknown since no one watches it.
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
So, you think Glenn Beck is left leaning? You are a moron. CNN hasn’t been left leaning in a long time. That is why Ted Turner said selling CNN was the biggest mistake he made in his entire life.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
are you kidding me? they have one host that is a right winger, and he doesn’t even come out on CNN, but the less watched Headlines CNN, and you claim CNN is not Liberal?
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! my friend, your brain is pure and utter shit.
here is a clue for you, CNN is Liberal, too bad you love denying the facts.
typical liberal wacko.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:16 pmRamboTroll responds to ‘The Joker’:
Liberals and their “world poverty” stance. Here’s how it works: are the tents which terrorists sleep in sturdy enough? Enough rations and sharp pencils to map out the next attack? They must have the proper nutrition to keep their brain juices flowing.
Oh, and did we mention ‘Diversity?’ Diversity. Diversity. Diversity. Diversity. That word now is officially contaminated.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:17 pm“Can’t compete in the market so you want the government to force your views to people. Nice.
Comment by Kevin ”
So, Kevin, please tell me how progressives are supposed to “compete in the market” when 90% of our radio stations are owned by large corporations like Clear Channel and those stations refuse to run Progressive talk radio. What are we supposed to do, start our own renegade 10 watt radio stations?
If there was an equal opportunity to have progressive or conservative talk shows in all markets, then and only then could you say whether or not progressive talk radio can compete. But, you also have to throw the advertisers into the mix. At this time they don’t want to advertise on progressive talk radio because they are corporations and don’t view progressives as sympathetic to their corporate greed. But I do think that will change when the Democrats take over the government in 2009. The corporations will go where the power is. They are not stupid.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:17 pm“71% of the Country doesn’t want you Socilaist state either!”
One more thing that America agrees with me on. No SOcialist, no Fascists, no Democrats and no Republicans. Our current governmetn as it stands is totally corrupt. Everything revolves around money and not what is best for the country and it’s people. Welcome to my side of the arguement.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:17 pmLiberals and their “world poverty†stance. Here’s how it works: are the tents which terrorists sleep in sturdy enough? Enough rations and sharp pencils to map out the next attack? They must have the proper nutrition to keep their brain juices flowing.
Oh, and did we mention ‘Diversity?’ Diversity. Diversity. Diversity. Diversity. That word now is officially contaminated.
Comment by RamboTroll — June 20, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
Dumb fu*k, it is Bush that is arming the insuregents, not the “liberals.” as you would like to pretend.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:18 pmSpudge_Boy,
You are blinded by loyalty to your corrupt Party.
Like a true Cultist you don’t see the truth.
Keep drinkling Kool Aid!
In 2008 Both Parties will be swept out!
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
I don’t have a praty.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
yes, I use to say the same thing, then I ran for the nomination of the Presidency as a Democrat.
retard, dumb ass, you are but a simple tool of mine, a blind Democratic voter. You do have a party, you are just too stupid to realize it, my tool.
I love tools like you.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:18 pm#111 Then what airlines do you want to put out of business too?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:19 pm“Can’t compete in the market so you want the government to force your views to people. Nice.
Comment by Kevin — June 20, 2007 @ 2:20 pm”
RIGHT!!!!
That’s like creating a new OS for a computer and failing because MS has all of the market and applies pressure on their customers to use their product and not yours….
So you are a failure because YOU cannot compete in the market…….
Here is a better example:
You decide that you no longer want to shop at store X because they provide crappy service to you. You start looking around for another store that is not related to store X, but after searching for months you only find 2 out of hundreds. Unfortunately YOU cannot shop at these other stores because they are not in your area.
Now is it right that YOU are forced to shop at a store that you don’t want to??? Is it fair that this is the ONLY store that provides the things you actually need? The only reason that this is the case is because THEY bought all the other stores out so that they could controll the market……
Now is this what YOU consider “free market”????
This is what RADIO has become…… Large funded Republican parties buy up these stations and DICTATE what we have to listen to, even though they are suppose to be there for the PUBLIC!!!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:19 pmThank you Center for American Progress. You have nailed another important subject once again. You are great and this is why I contrrbute to your cause
June 20th, 2007 at 3:20 pm#114 Let’s apply that to Think Progress as well and it will be out of business before Saturday.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:20 pmEmpty-headed, Conservative radio is only popular because the audience is made up of people who have time to listen to the radio all day, namely:
* truckers
June 20th, 2007 at 3:20 pm* the unemployed
* retired people living in trailer homes
* hillbillies
To me this problem could be solved with some common sense. Right-wingers: quit lying on our public-owned airwaves. If you make a statement that is patently false, make a correction within 72 hours and you’re off the hook. If no correction is made, then you get a $200,000 fine per lie told.
Likewise, progressive radio would be held to this same standard. What are you afraid of right-wingers?
- Tom
Comment by TomR — June 20, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
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And WHO, by tell, is going to determine what is a lie or what is truth… the radio talk shows are OPINIONS… if you want to talk about lies, talk to Murtha on the issue of the Marines at Haditha. Turns out he told a LOT of lies! (Murtha – DEMOCRAT)
June 20th, 2007 at 3:21 pmAs a casual observation… from a broadcast professional… the domination of right wing talk radio is not because of any background deals, it’s not because left wing voices are being silenced (witness Err America) it’s because the American people simply don’t want to listen to it. They don’t buy what the leftists are selling. It’s really just that simple. All the “reports” in the world are going to change that one fact.
It seems the only way that you can get people to listen to you, is to force them to. Which is what this is all about, here.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:21 pmCleveland had a liberal talk station for about 6 months before it went off the air for yet another damn sports talk station, 4 in this market of that sort. I sorely miss the liberal talk.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:22 pmI think part of the problem is human nature. It is easier for conservatives, they are intolerant and hate filled and sadly one thing that is very clear is that pandering to the darkest of human natures almost always wins. We need only look at the sucess of republican’s and christian right to see that.
It’s a lot easier to say I hate “insert anything here” i am against it than to say I might not like it but it’s a free country go for it.
Democrats will often visit maternity wards and shake their fists angrily at all those who escaped the wrath of choice.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:22 pmNo Pardon –
and the reason that no one listens to Liberal Radio is because the welfare food stamps don’t cover radio purchases?
don’t paint conservatives as redneck hicks… that is just ignorant!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:23 pm“Then why did Err America go bankrupt?
Comment by Frank J”
Go back and read my prior post Frankie. You might learn something. Air America went bankrupt because they were having problems finding advertisers. Most corporations don’t want to advertise on progressive radio because they know that the progressives are not sympathetic to their corporate greed. But that will change after the 2008 election.
But, I do find it amusing that a lot of conservatives are advertising on progressive radio these days. Recently Glenn Beck ran ads on Air America and some right wing website was also running ads. Don’t think they had much success with their ads, though.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:23 pmhere is a clue for you, CNN is Liberal, too bad you love denying the facts.
typical liberal wacko.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
Here is more of the failed common sense of you people.
If I am a liberal and I don’t think CNN is liberal, then how are as a conservative going to tell me CNN is liberal?
If CNN covers nothing from a liberal point of view and none of the liberals watch it, then how can it be liberal?
Explain those two things.
Really, you want to have a discussion, let’s do it.
Answer the question of how you think you know what is liberal and are going to tell a liberal what his favorite liberal programs should be.
That is like me telling you what your favorite color is or what your favorite food is.
You can’t just point at something and say “That is liberal” while the liberals are saying “That is not liberal”
It makes CNN a nothing station that will go by the wayside, because the conservatives think it is liberal and the liberals know it is not.
Bye bye CNN.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:23 pmKatie,
But I do think that will change when the Democrats take over the Government in 2009. The corporations will go where the power is. They are not stupid.
I hate top break it to you but.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:23 pmNeither Republicans or Democrats will win in 2008!
Independents of both the Right and Left will win!
Bloomberg will win it all.
America will be free then Bush, Clinton, Pelosi and Reid will go on trail for treachery to America!
Liberals simply need to catch up. One thing I would like to see is a radio show, and/or a website that is strictly dedicated to catching Republicans lying on the radio. There is loads of content out there every day, and to have a single source where the rest of us could go to see these lies debunked would be awesome.
Anybody want to finance me?
Phylo out.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:24 pmDemocrats will often visit maternity wards and shake their fists angrily at all those who escaped the wrath of choice.
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
How would you know with all of the time you devote to playing red rocket with your dog.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:24 pm“Then what airlines do you want to put out of business too?
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 3:19 pm”
What in GOD’s name does that have to do with RADIO????
Do they have a LICENSE hanging in the cockpit??? Do they have to provide DETAILED reports to the govt. about WHAT PUBLIC SERVICE they have done and how????? Do they have to have their license renewed every 4 or so years??????
The only thing in common is the fact that Pilots and DJ’s MUST have a license…..
But that is where the similarities end….
June 20th, 2007 at 3:24 pmSpudge_Boy,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:24 pmCNN is Pro-Muslims.
Katie – Liberals have $$$ too… have Gore, or Clintons Millions, or someone fund the station… I KNOW that Heinz would love to advertise…
June 20th, 2007 at 3:24 pmRamboTroll responds:
Comment by No Pardon for Treason #124
We consider that to be typical hate-speech. And good of you to bash truckers, since they deliver the goods you eventually consume for your own survival.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:25 pm#91 – “In most regions where Air America Radio broadcasts, they either beat the local conservative hosts or are pretty close in ratings.”
Comment by K*ty
Are you always so whiny?? You don’t host a Progtard radio program do you?
“Beat the local conservative hosts…“??? How does ErrAmerica do against syndicated national hosts?? BTW – Corporations are usually owned by their stockholders. Here’s a thought – buy a few shares of stock and form a coalition of Progtard influence. Psssst…..You’ve heard of Progressive Insurance? (Peter Lewis doesn’t vote Repub.) Ask yourself why Left Corporations advertise “with the enemy”. (Hint: they know where the listeners are and want to sell their insurance or movies…. or whatever.) All those Leftard companies that advertise in the vast right wing media are YOUR problem……that – and finding decent programming……
June 20th, 2007 at 3:25 pmLiberals hate people who are not open minded. Open minded is defined as thinking just like they think (otherwise you’re evil).
June 20th, 2007 at 3:26 pmit’s because the American people simply don’t want to listen to it. They don’t buy what the leftists are selling.
Too bad, 3500 soldiers would still be alive if Americans “bought what lefties are selling”
June 20th, 2007 at 3:26 pmNice, you want to silence anyone that disagrees with you. Nice nazi tactics buddy.â€
I didn’t say silence anybody, you did. I said stop your propaganda machine. So I guess you like propaganda.
“Spudge_Boy and Smufdady, you both love to ignore the fact that the Democreatic Led Congress has a lower approval rating than our President.â€
Thanks to the Republicans.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Thanks to the Republicans? Good Liberal, you have been taught well, and you follow instructions well.
Don’t take responsability for your actions, blame others.
the Democrats are in the tanks, along with the Republicans in approval ratings because neither party is listening to their base, and to the American people as a whole.
I said it, it would be terrible for the Democrats to win in 2006, why? because now they own the Iraq War as much as President Bush. it might not be the real picture, but it is what people perceived, what the American people see.
Now both Republicans and Democrats own the Iraq War and anything bad that is perceived by the American people.
this should make for very interesting elections in 2008.
Anyway Spudge_boy, stop being my tool, and learn to take responsability for your actions.
Democrats have a lower approval rating than Bush thanks to them and not to the Republicans.
stop being a blind partisan hack.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:26 pm#129. No, it’s true. On average, Liberals are more highly educated than Conservatives. Simple fact. That’s why you guys don’t care about science or facts, just fart jokes from Larry the Cable Guy.
Same reason the “red states” get more money from the government than they pay in. See how simple it is? Liberals actually contribute to the growth of the United States; Conservatives drag it down.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:27 pmI’m surprised the California would have such an imblance, especially San Francisco.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:27 pmIt’s funny how these Free speech Leftist want to ban Talk Radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:27 pmHow about let’s ban this website, and Dailikos?
If you want to go regulating speech, you’re Fascist.
You guys are Fascists!
Spudge_Boy,
CNN is Pro-Muslims.
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
And I hate CNN and never watch it, so I don’t care if they support the Moonies.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:28 pmLiberals love to spend other people’s money. If you see a liberal, it’s okay to take his money because it probably wasn’t his anyway.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:28 pmGood luck with the debate… look slike you guys won’t get anywhere with it… when it comes down to it, both parties are corrupt, power corrupts, and the removal of free speech is fascist… everything else is opinion on here…
back to my day… have a good one!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:29 pmNo Pardon for Treason.,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:29 pmIf that’s the case why do you guys complain about tax cuts and claim you support working people when you’re a bunch of Rich clowns?
It’s funny how these Free speech Leftist want to ban Talk Radio.
Nobody ever said that. You made it up in your dried out little brainwashed head.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:29 pmLiberals hate people who are not open minded. Open minded is defined as thinking just like they think (otherwise you’re evil).
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
how very true. open minded for a liberal is anyone and everyone that agrees with them. If you don’t agree with a Liberal, you are a closed minded fool.
and diversity for a Liberal is a White male, White female, Latino, Latina, Black female, Black male, Asian male, Asian female, etc, etc, etc who are all Liberal.
this is diversity for us Liberals.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:29 pm#149. I don’t know why it’s the case the Conservatives don’t contribute more than they receive from the Government. You tell me — you’re the one draining the coffers.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:30 pmRight wing radio is a menace to our society. The hosts of the various talk shows are, with a few exceptions, engaging in daily demagogy and deception. They tell their listeners that the new bill is an amnesty when it is no such thing. They tell their audiences that lowering taxes for the rich is good for the poor. They also tell their audiences that the poor are getting the vast majority of the tax cuts. They tell their audiences that there really were ties between Iraq and al Queda and that we actually found the WMDs. They tell their audiences that Valerie Plame was not covert despite the fact that several people have testified under oath that she was. They tell their audiences that Joe Wilson is a liar when there is no evidence of any lie. They tell their audience that Libby should go free because there was “no underlying crime”. (What part of “obstruction of justice” do these people not understand?) They tell their audience that gas prices are spiking because the environmentalists won’t let the oil companies build new refineries despite the fact that the oil companies themselves have been mothballing refineries. They tell their audiences it’s okay for the President to wiretap the phones of American citizens without warrants despite the fact that there is a specific law on the books saying that he can’t. They tell their audiences that the liberals are weak on terror because they don’t think the president should be breaking the law. They tell their audiences that America has always been hated around the world (We’ve always been at war with East Asia) when the fact is, our popularity is about half of what it was before Bush took office. They also tell their audiences that this lack of popularity is actually a good thing; it’s a sign of our nobility; it’s good to have other countries fear us.
And then there’s what they don’t tell their audiences. Talk radio audiences don’t know that Alberto Gonzales has been turning the justice system into a branch of the Republican party. They don’t know that the White House has been circumventing laws about e-mail record keeping. They don’t know that Republican congressmen are waaaay more corrupt then Democratic congressmen. They don’t know that Valerie Plame was working undercover for a company called Brewster Jennings and had been overseas several times between 2002 and 2003. I could go on but I think you get the point.
Phylo out.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:30 pmoh, and “No pardon”… you are an idiot. Conservatives are not rednecks. I am a highly educated conservative, a scientist, and conservationist.
That is like me saying that all liberals are impovershed welfare babies with no hope but for the money being sucked out of the wealthy wallets in the form of taxeds for handouts……
Grow up brotha!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:31 pmAnyway Spudge_boy, stop being my tool, and learn to take responsability for your actions.
Democrats have a lower approval rating than Bush thanks to them and not to the Republicans.
stop being a blind partisan hack.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
You keep telling yourslef that about Congress and we will all see come 2008. You can keep repeating that it is the Democrats, but America isn’t as stupid as you.
Dude, you are the troll here. You stop being a partisan hack.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:31 pmthere’s no conspiracy at work here. programmers would put on a talking fish if they thought it would get rating
We already have a talking fish; Lush Limpballs. He looks like one, sounds like one and acts like one.
THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE!!!!
This scares the Hell out of rightard talk show hosts. It may crimp their style on lies, slander, zero accountability if they actually had to allow both sides of an issue.
I listen, as someone else posted, to Rightard Radio to laugh. Yesterday Insannity was vivid with Skin Flute Snow for supporting BabyBush’s immigration stance. It was hilarious! They were both talking over each other, as they learned on Pox News, and trying to make up talking points on the fly.
Folks, read the attached report. This isn’t about which political side is best; it’s about corporate control under the guise of deregulation.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:31 pmLiberals hate America and love more oppressed people… like evil dictators.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:31 pmoh, and “No pardonâ€â€¦ you are an idiot. Conservatives are not rednecks. I am a highly educated conservative, a scientist, and conservationist.
I knew you were a concern troll. I called it way back in post #53.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:32 pmWow! The trolls are in full throat today!
Losers…
June 20th, 2007 at 3:32 pm#91 – “In most regions where Air America Radio broadcasts, they either beat the local conservative hosts or are pretty close in ratings.â€
Where did you get your facts from?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:33 pmPudgy_boy,
the problem with you is that anything that doesn’t agree with your extreme left wing views is propaganda.
so you want to stop anything and everything you consider propaganda.
or tell me do you think government should decide what is propaganda? or who decides, a Liberal wacko like you?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:33 pmProgtards whining about conservatives talk radio reminds me of the crappy carsthe USSR used to put out…..Progs figure if there’s NOTHING else to listen to except them, maybe Mr. and Mrs. America will tune in…..What charming little fools!!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:33 pmBut, I do find it amusing that a lot of conservatives are advertising on progressive radio these days. Recently Glenn Beck ran ads on Air America and some right wing website was also running ads. Don’t think they had much success with their ads, though.
Comment by Katie — June 20, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
Katie, Glenn Beck is also on CNN. He’s not a true conservative by definition and he does not tow the party line. He’s recently said, like I have, that he’s sick and tired of President Bush. He’s more of a comedian with conservative political tendencies. He can actually be funny unlike Limburger or Sean Insanity. I know he is on conservative talk radio, but he’s much less of a hate monger than the others. Watch his show some night and you’ll see.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:34 pmLiberals come in two main varieties: intellectual and mental patient. You can only distinguish between the two by noting whether their jacket has sleeves.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:35 pmBut I do think that will change when the Democrats take over the Government in 2009. The corporations will go where the power is. They are not stupid.
I hate top break it to you but.
Neither Republicans or Democrats will win in 2008!
Independents of both the Right and Left will win!
Bloomberg will win it all.
America will be free then Bush, Clinton, Pelosi and Reid will go on trail for treachery to America!
Comment by The Joker
Kucinich is starting to come up in the polls. He IS the only candidate for single payer health care = eliminating the health insurance companies, running in ‘08. He has also proven to the masses with his voting record just where he stands. No, he is not pretty or smells of perfume, or has a huge election war chest from donations from corporations, but he is spot on the issues, gaining % points and I suspect maybe a grass roots effort can get this man elected.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:35 pm“They don’t buy what the leftists are selling. It’s really just that simple. All the “reports†in the world are going to change that one fact.”
Well Mr. “broadcast professional”. I’ll buy your argument the day when there are an equal number of progressive talk shows to the number of conservative talk shows and the progressives have consistently lower ratings. Until that time, you are full of hot air. How do YOU know that Americans don’t want to listen to progressive talk radio? A majority of Americans in this country do not have the ability to listen to talk radio because no radio stations in their area carry it.
And your theory that Americans don’t believe in progressive ideas was blown out of the water by a recent survey that showed that a large majority of Americans support progressive values like single payer health plans, getting out of Iraq, stem cell research and many more. The myth that this country is more conservative than liberal is just that, a myth. Once the Democrats are in a position to not allow the Republics to steal another election, and the progressives are given a voice, it will be a very different world my friend. One that I am sure you will hate.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:35 pmComment by Crump’s Brother
And your fellow “witty progressive” commentators have not even their usual loony capital to put forth. Even they have to grudgingly admit that “progressive” radio commentary blows, so out the thread-door they go.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:35 pm9 of the 10 states that get the most federal tax dollars and pay the least are red states. 8 of the 10 states that receive the fewest tax dollars and pay the most are blue states.
It’s not your money – it’s mine. Conservative states are freekin’ welfare queens.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:36 pmAnyway Spudge_boy, stop being my tool, and learn to take responsability for your actions.
Democrats have a lower approval rating than Bush thanks to them and not to the Republicans.
stop being a blind partisan hack.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
You keep telling yourslef that about Congress and we will all see come 2008. You can keep repeating that it is the Democrats, but America isn’t as stupid as you.
Dude, you are the troll here. You stop being a partisan hack.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
are you this stupid, or do you play one here? if the American people honestly believed that it was only Republicans screwing up things, it would be Republicans with the bad approval rating, moron, i mean my tool, my fool.
go ahead, you keep on telling yourself that, and let us see come the 2008 election. Democrats know they are in trouble, Reid and Pelosi have defended their low approval rating by now claiming that maybe they should have never promised that they were going to end the Iraq War.
Ooooops, imagine that a politician lying to get elected.
get your blinders off, partisan hack. Get my d!ck out of your mouth and start thinking on your own. We don’t keep promises and we use tools like you to spew out our propaganda.
thank you spudgy_boy.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:36 pmHint to Prog programming “gurus†– shrill, whiny progressivism doesn’t sell. Ever listen to Democracy NOW! or another popular snoozecast, Pacifica Radio???
Comment by varicose veinous
How long has Pacifica been on the air? Um, since 1946! Obviously, it’s a disaster. If you’re going to dribble your shrill whiny opinions on TP, at least get a fact or two correct on occasion.
Five radio stations and about 100 affiliates. Obviously, no one wants to listen.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:36 pmI already told you that I was new here, and there was no hiding that I am conservative. But does that make me an enemy. If you think so then you don’t understand the political process… we are all brothers of the USA with differing opinions… I love that you guys have to label to try and put me down… I am unappoligettically conservative, but I love discussing issues in hopes of staying a well rounded citizen…
The difference is that you are more concerned with crushing opposition instead of discussing issues.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:36 pmI, as your god-like figure that you all worship, demand that you pay attention to me. Oh, my little tools. you are so easily led that I pretend to be the most beloved president of our time (even though she hasn’t been elected yet) in order to make fun of all my little sheeple.
You all know that I’m not very smart, but you pay attention to me anyway. My own family doesn’t even do that anymore, not since I got a DSL line in my basment.
Soo I implore you PAY ATTENTION TO ME or I promise I will go Chinese Embassy in serbia on you.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:36 pmHey, J-bird:
Conservatives come in two main varieties: clammy and slimy. You can only distinguish between the two by touching them (and no one wants to).
June 20th, 2007 at 3:38 pmDear Phydo – What part of the first Amendment do you not understand? Lets a$$ume you’re correct and right wing radio IS lying about the Immigration Bill being an amnesty bill? (FYI – They are NOT lying – they are stating their opinion, which you seem determined to squelch. So what! Political speech is specifically protected – and the leftards decided to expand the Constitution and include stripper and porn……
June 20th, 2007 at 3:39 pmalright… enough bickering for me… I am really out this time… Cheers!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:39 pm“Where did you get your facts from?
Comment by Chris — June 20, 2007 @ 3:33 pm”
http://www.airamerica.com/node/657
Since last year, Air America Radio has grown from 25 affiliates to 67 stations nationwide.
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Los Angeles:
* 167 percent increase in P12+ Share Winter-Spring 2005 (0.3 to 0.8)
* (Mon – Sun 6a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 300 percent increase in P12+ Share Spring 2004-Spring 2005 (0.2 to 0.8)
* (Mon-Sun 6a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Washington D.C.:
* 33 percent increase in P12+ Share Winter-Spring 2005 (0.3 to 0.4)
* (Mon-Sun 6a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 300 percent increase in P12+ Share Spring 2004-Spring 2005 (0.1 to 0.4)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Phoenix:
* 38 percent increase in P12+ Share Winter-Spring 2005 (0.8 to 1.1)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 267 percent increase in P12+ Share Spring 2004-Spring 2005 (0.3 to 1.1)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Portland, Ore.:
* 19 percent increase in A25-54 Share Win-Spr 2005 (3.7 to 4.4).
* Rank went up from #10 to #6
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 36 percent increase in P12+ Share Win-Spr 2005 (3.3 to 4.5).
* Rank went up from #12 to #5
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Denver:
* 30 percent increase in P12+ AQH Win-Spr 2005 (4700 to 6100)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 25 percent increase in P12+ Share Win-Spr 2005 (1.6 to 2.0)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Cincinnati:
* 29 percent increase in A25-54 AQH Winter-Spring 2005 (700 to 900)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 17 percent increase in A25-54 Share Winter-Spring 2005 (0.6 to 0.7)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Honolulu:
* 13 percent increase in P12+ Cume Win-Spr 2005 (11100 to 12500)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Memphis:
* 150 percent increase in A25-54 AQH Win-Spr 2005 (200 to 500)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 150 percent increase in A25-54 Share Win-Spr 2005 (0.2 to 0.5)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Arbitron Spring 2005 Numbers for Miami:
* 68 percent increase in P12+ AQH Winter-Spring 2005 (6600 to 11100)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
* 67 percent increase in P12+ Share Winter-Spring 2005 (1.2 to 2.0)
* (Mon – Sun 6 a.m. – 12 a.m.)
Highlights from Arbitron Spring 2005 Survey:
* Increase in cumulative listening audience jumped from 1.3 million to 3.1 million within one year.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:40 pm* 300 percent increase in L.A. in P12+ Share Spring 2004-Spring 2005
* 300 percent increase in Washington D.C. in P12+ Share Spring 2004-Spring 2005
* 267 percent increase in Phoenix in P12+ Share Spring 2004-Spring 2005
I’ve always figured that progressive talk radio doesn’t do particularly well because progressives have better things to do with their lives than listen to AM radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:40 pm“Pudgy_boy,
the problem with you is that anything that doesn’t agree with your extreme left wing views is propaganda.”
First of all, very origianl on the name. Much better than my 12 year old.
Second it is hard for you to label me liberal when I suport the death penalty and own a lot of weapons. I served in the military under Bush 1.
Sorry, I don’t fit in your box.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:41 pm#163 – re: Glen Beck “I know he is on conservative talk radio, but he’s much less of a hate monger than the others. ”
You must be listening to a different Glenn Beck than I have heard. If you think the following are not the words of a hate monger, I feel sorry for you:
Beck has called President Jimmy Carter a “waste of skin,” Mexican immigrants “dirt bags” and “lawbreakers,” Katrina victims “scumbags,” Cindy Sheehan a “prostitute,” and suggested using nuclear weapons against parts of the Middle East and Venezuela.
During a November 14, 2006, interview with Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), the first Muslim elected to Congress, Beck said to the congressman: “What I feel like saying is, ‘Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies.” On his shows, Beck repeatedly belittles the Muslim faith by mocking Muslim names and through actions such as “mark[ing] the death” of Al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi with a “Zarqawi bacon cake.”
For more quotes from someone coachjason claims is not a hatemonger, go here: http://mediamatters.org/items/200601200013
June 20th, 2007 at 3:41 pmI already told you that I was new here, and there was no hiding that I am conservative. But does that make me an enemy. If you think so then you don’t understand the political process… we are all brothers of the USA with differing opinions… I love that you guys have to label to try and put me down… I am unappoligettically conservative, but I love discussing issues in hopes of staying a well rounded citizen…
The difference is that you are more concerned with crushing opposition instead of discussing issues.
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
Steven, of course to Liberals, you are the enemy, you must be destroyed. it is not thre radical muslims that are our enemies, it is not Iran, it is not N. Korea, it is not Cuba, it is not Venezuela, no, it is conservatives like you that must be stopped at all cost.
conservatives like you must be silenced, you must not get your ideology out.
how dare you think that we Liberals want to exchange ideas and have a meaninful, open minded, tolerant, exchange of ideas with you!
you insolent conservative, conservatives like you must be sent to a concentration camp for the mere fact of being a conservative!
die you conservative pig, die!!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:41 pmOr this….
Al Franken Whips Rush Limbaugh in Arbitron Ratings…
No doubt Air American Radio has been having its troubles as it seeks to establish itself. This has particularly come in the form of money. However Air America Radio has achieved great success in its first Arbitron Ratings… Al Franken has soundly trashed Rush Limbaugh among the most coveted demographics.
In New York during the time when Al Franken’s show, “The O’Franken Factor” is broadcast in the same time slot as Rush Limbaugh , Franken beat Rush among 18-54 year olds.
From the Chicago Tribune…
in New York, where Air America still broadcasts over WLIB-1190 AM, the network beat Limbaugh’s station, Disney-owned WABC, among both 25-to-54-year-olds and 18-to-34-year-olds during the 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. period. In the 25-to-54 demographic, WLIB garnered a 3.4 share to WABC’s 3.1; among 18-to-34-year-olds, WLIB won sevenfold with a 2.9 share to WABC’s 0.4.
In Chicago, Air America Radio was on only 28 days before a billing dispute knocked it off the air. Still, Franken turned in a very strong showing against Limbaugh. While on during its short time period on WNTD, WNTD went from a 0.1 percent share to a 3 percent share among 25 to 54 year olds. It stands to reason that should Air American find another broadcaster, they can continue their success in this market and continue to pull listeners from WLS-AM which airs Rush Limbaugh’s show.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:42 pmCan’t compete in the marketplace?
Let’s have government shut down your opposition then.
That’s the American way.
*barf*
June 20th, 2007 at 3:42 pmI already told you that I was new here, and there was no hiding that I am conservative. But does that make me an enemy. If you think so then you don’t understand the political process… we are all brothers of the USA with differing opinions… I love that you guys have to label to try and put me down… I am unappoligettically conservative, but I love discussing issues in hopes of staying a well rounded citizen…
The difference is that you are more concerned with crushing opposition instead of discussing issues.
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
Does that make you an enemy? No, Steven it doesn’t. But if you stick around here and take in some of the wisdom your compatriots offer, you’ll probably first be embarrassed for them and then soon after, you’llunderstand why there’s such a combative attitude here. There are many liberal posters who will debate respectfully if shown respect. Unfortunately, few conservatives who are willing to show respect post here regularly. Welcome. I hope you stick around. We could use more like you.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:43 pmI am unappoligettically conservative, but I love discussing issues in hopes of staying a well rounded citizen…
The difference is that you are more concerned with crushing opposition instead of discussing issues.
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
The problem is that the first thing you wrote was an attack. Typical of conservative a$$holes.
Next time you want to discuss something, give that a try instead. Otherwise you will get more of the same.
And just so you know, there are plenty of conservatives that I discuss stuff with here. But they don’t attack me first thing.
Got it.
or not
I don’t care.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:43 pmDear Whiner Kate – Do you think Rush Limbaugh started out with 500+ stations? “A majority of Americans in this country do not have the ability to listen to talk radio because no radio stations in their area carry it.” Waaaagh
June 20th, 2007 at 3:43 pmI thought that’s why they have X-M and Sirius Radio, so deprived progs could tune in to ProgTalk whenever and wherever their envious little hearts desire….
yes spudge_boy, and I didn’t cheat on my wife and it depends on what the meaning of the word “is” is.
stop lying to yourself, Mr. GI Joe. Cobra commander is not our real enemy and GI Joe was fake.
you are a dumb, ridiculous, pathetic Liberal. You and I both know it.
don’t insult the superior intellect of your Democratic god, William Jefferson Clinton. Your IQ of 80 is a joke compared to my 180.
You are but a mere mortal, I am a god! or so I have been told by my sycophant left wing followers.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:44 pmCan’t compete in the marketplace?
Let’s have government shut down your opposition then.
That’s the American way.
*barf*
Comment by Toliver — June 20, 2007 @ 3:42 pm
Toliver, I must have missed it — can you point out where someone suggested having “the government shut down the opposition”?
Thanks.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:45 pmI think it is about ratings. Conservatives need to be spoon-fed their opinions, and liberals can make up their own minds? Let ‘em have their stupid pundits, I say.
Just as an aside, have you ever noticed that the overwhelming # of bloggers that chose the handle “______ pundit” are conservative?
June 20th, 2007 at 3:46 pm“The difference is that you are more concerned with crushing opposition instead of discussing issues.”
Well Steven, if you want to discuss the issues, we are more than happy to do that with you. If you are not like the trolls on this site who are just here to say “Clinton did it” or to call us all “libtards”, then welcome to Think Progress.
The problem is that most of the trolls on this site are here for one reason and one reason only. To push buttons and get a reaction. Unfortunately there are a lot of people on this site who like to make sport of playing with the trolls. It really kills this site and often kills threads for me. When I read 10 posts in a row that are nothing other than the trolls playing with the troll players, I give up and move on.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:46 pm171: I have been here for months under the same pretenses. Don’t give up, there are level headed progressives here that will grab hold of your olive branch and take you to the common ground you’re looking for. Just don’t give up on them too quickly and don’t get offended easily (God knows, some will try.). Blessings to you…
June 20th, 2007 at 3:47 pmJesus!.. I thought I accidentally stopped by Malkin’s site, what with all the rightwing howler monkeys throwing their poo around.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:47 pmTP, you have a SERIOUS troll problem on your hands.
You are but a mere mortal, I am a god! or so I have been told by my sycophant left wing followers.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:44 pm
Dumb fu*k, I don’t like Clinton, either one. Bill Clinton signed NAFTA and he sold missile guidence technology to China. So, if you think that I like Clinton, you are dead wrong.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:49 pm—-
And WHO, by tell, is going to determine what is a lie or what is truth… the radio talk shows are OPINIONS… if you want to talk about lies, talk to Murtha on the issue of the Marines at Haditha. Turns out he told a LOT of lies! (Murtha – DEMOCRAT)
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
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Are you saying that you don’t understand the difference between fact and opinion?
Man1: Everyone knows the moon is made of green cheese.
Man2: No way man, it’s made out of rock.
“we report, you decide.”
Actually, after some fact-checking, man1 would need to say, “I was wrong to make this claim. It turns out the moon is made out of rock.”
See. This is simple.
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Republicans love to spend other people’s money. If you see a republican, it’s okay to take his money because it probably wasn’t his anyway.
Comment by Frank J — June 20, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
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Corrected your comment for you Frank.
- Tom
June 20th, 2007 at 3:50 pmI’ve always figured that progressive talk radio doesn’t do particularly well because progressives have better things to do with their lives than listen to AM radio.
You nailed it, gummitch!
It also explains why Trolls like Violent Vagina, et al, are allowed to post here, unlike the Rightard sites.
The reason so many Trolls climbed up here today is that the news above scares the hell out of them.
They no more want ‘fair & balanced’ coverage than they want Kucinich for President.
If Rightards don’t have an uneven playing field, they go home and get Daddy to straighten things out. (Corporate influence on legislation.)
June 20th, 2007 at 3:50 pmHell, they even have to change names…Jake=Frank J. , MA=Violent Vagina, Falco=Michael, Joker=Bush?(No one else could have such bad spelling & grammar!
Some of you sycophantic followers might wonder why I come here and post insults while pretending to be the most popular President of our time (even though she hasn’t been elected yet).
Well, it’s because I think I’m cleverer than the average fifth-grader, and when people I respect, like my dad or Mr. Thompson the gym teacher call me a “loser” or a “doofus” or a “moron” then it doubly hurts. So I figure it will make me feel better about myself if I insult someone else. I picked you guys. And I pretend to be a god to you, the most popular president of our time (even though she hasn’t been elected yet) in order to make it hurt more. See how clever I am? Say I’m clever or I’ll go Chinese Embassy on you.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:50 pmSpudge_Boy,
June 20th, 2007 at 3:51 pmYou’re an Iranian agent.
You serve your master’s party line!
The broadcasters don’t own the radio spectrum, so thay can’t just say what they want, willy-nilly. It’s not even close to a free speech issue. If it was, a liberal would have to claim that their right to free speech was being violated by virtue of being locked out of the distribution channel by legal means. What we have here is more of an antitrust issue.
As a complete non sequitur, you’re crazy as a shit-house mouse, and are well known hereabouts for flying off the handle – willy-nilly – with any old bullcrap.
So, there you go
June 20th, 2007 at 3:51 pmSpudge_Boy,
You’re an Iranian agent.
You serve your master’s party line!
Comment by The Joker — June 20, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
Then where the fu*k is my paycheck. It is hard work (I guess) and I should get paid lots of money for doing……stuff.
You’re a fu*king moron that needs medical attention.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:53 pmTP = Troll bait.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:53 pmKatie: You obviously have formed your opinion of Glenn Beck and he could walk on water and he’d still be an evil conservative to you. So I won’t try… Regardless, you took many of his quotes out of context. He runs a comedy show with conservative political tendencies. But it’s comedy. If you don’t know a joke when you hear one, that’s on you. It’s too bad to because he’s really quite funny.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:54 pmJesus!.. I thought I accidentally stopped by Malkin’s site, what with all the rightwing howler monkeys throwing their poo around.
TP, you have a SERIOUS troll problem on your hands.
Comment by Buck — June 20, 2007 @ 3:47 pm
yes, they do and we must silence them. How can the right wing be listened to? we can’t allow their ideology to get out, to be heard. We must silence all Conservatives, we must, we must, we must!!!
It is the only way that we will keep on winning. We can’t have conservatives running around and spewing the facts.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:54 pm“The broadcasters don’t own the radio spectrum, so thay can’t just say what they want, willy-nilly. It’s not even close to a free speech issue. If it was, a liberal would have to claim that their right to free speech was being violated by virtue of being locked out of the distribution channel by legal means. What we have here is more of an antitrust issue.”
Exactly.
The American public owns the airwaves over the United Staes of America.
You would think a troll pretending to be a lawyer would know something about the law.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:54 pmTP = Troll bait.
Comment by smafdy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
Smafdy=Democratic party tool.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:55 pmIt is the only way that we will keep on winning. We can’t have conservatives running around and spewing the facts.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
We are winning without the needs for you idiots to be silenced. In fact, the more you talk, the more it helps us. You are too stupid to see that, but that would go back to you people not having any common sense.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:56 pmPresident Clinton = fu*king moron
June 20th, 2007 at 3:56 pm“The broadcasters don’t own the radio spectrum, so thay can’t just say what they want, willy-nilly. It’s not even close to a free speech issue. If it was, a liberal would have to claim that their right to free speech was being violated by virtue of being locked out of the distribution channel by legal means. What we have here is more of an antitrust issue.â€
Exactly.
The American public owns the airwaves over the United Staes of America.
You would think a troll pretending to be a lawyer would know something about the law.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
and who sold you this bunch of horse shit? If I own the air waves, how come AirAmerica hasn’t paid me royalties for using MY AIR WAVES?!
June 20th, 2007 at 3:56 pmIt is widely known that the MSM is liberal biased, and talk radio is conservative biased.
So, tell the lefties to either (a) start advertising – there ARE leftist companies!, or (b) get off welfare, start a corporation, and advertise…
So, Steve, you want us to take you seriously, as someone who wants to debate with us, when your first post is a blatant lie. There is no way that the MSM media is liberal biased, since it is all owned by corporate media. And then you go on to insult us by implying that progressives live on welfare and are somehow able to get off welfare and start a corporation. I was willing to give you a chance, but it is apparent that you are just another Lemming Republic who couldn’t recognize the truth if it hit them in the face.
And, BTW, the leftist (that alone gave you away as a lemming Republic) corporations do advertise on Air America. The problem is that there are many more right-wing corporations than there are leftist corporations.
June 20th, 2007 at 3:58 pmSAY I’M CLEVER YOU SYCOPHANTIC SHEEP!
SAY IT!
I KNOW WHAT “SYCHOPHANTIC” MEANS, SO DON’T MESS WITH ME!
June 20th, 2007 at 4:00 pm———————
Yes, please get rid of conservative radio so I can listen to a Progressive Gay Lesbian Feminist discuss celebrity news with homosexual callers.
And you know exactly who I’m talkin’ about.
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June 20th, 2007 at 4:01 pmIt is the only way that we will keep on winning. We can’t have conservatives running around and spewing the facts.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
We are winning without the needs for you idiots to be silenced. In fact, the more you talk, the more it helps us. You are too stupid to see that, but that would go back to you people not having any common sense.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
wait spudge_boy, we? who are we? I thought you didn’t belong to any party? sniff, sniff….I smell a partisan hack.
poor fool, I told you not to mess with my 180 IQ ,don’t mess with me, the greatest President ever to walk on teh Oval office rug.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:01 pm# 207 Agreed, Katie. i gave Steve the benefit of the doubt, but it seems that he doesn’t realize that the first rule of reasonable debate is to respect the truth, andthe second is to respect your opponent.
He appears to have the same dismissive attitude toward liberals that most conservatives I know project.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:02 pm“But it’s comedy. If you don’t know a joke when you hear one, that’s on you. It’s too bad to because he’s really quite funny.
Comment by coachjason”
Ask Keith Ellison how he liked Glenn Beck’s “joke”. If you think this man is a comedian and that they things he says are “jokes”, I really pity you and the people who are close to you.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:03 pmand who sold you this bunch of horse shit? If I own the air waves, how come AirAmerica hasn’t paid me royalties for using MY AIR WAVES?!
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
Huh?
Wow, you just dropped down to complete fu*king idiot on the scale. You don’t really think anybody needs to respond to this stupidity do you? How old are you that you don’t know who ownes the public airwaves?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:04 pm“wait spudge_boy, we? who are we? I thought you didn’t belong to any party? sniff, sniff….I smell a partisan hack.”
We are progressives. Hence why I post and Think PROGRESS. We knew there was a problem in Washington long before the real republicans figured out there was an issue and are now latching onto our PROGRESSIVE movement to fix WAshington.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:07 pmand who sold you this bunch of horse shit? If I own the air waves, how come AirAmerica hasn’t paid me royalties for using MY AIR WAVES?!
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
Huh?
Wow, you just dropped down to complete fu*king idiot on the scale. You don’t really think anybody needs to respond to this stupidity do you? How old are you that you don’t know who ownes the public airwaves?
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 4:04 pm
Oh pudgy_boy, so that is the best you got? my poor, retarded tool.
First you claim you aren’t partisan, than you rant and rave how you and your party is winning all over the place.
second you claim that the public airwaves are owned by the public, yet you refuse to answer why if this is true, AirAmerica hasn’t paid royalties to the american public for using the public’s air waves.
poor, sad liberal tool. I love tools like you, tools like you put me into office in the 1990s, tools like you put our Democratic party in power in 2007. I love tools like you, so naive, so poorly educated, so dumb, so easy to manipulate little puppets like you.
please don’t ever get an education or you will stop being a tool of mine.
by the way, get the Democratic d!ck our of your mouth, you will start sounding smart, intelligent and be coherent for once.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:08 pmTo “President Clinton” — your remark that “Democrats have a lower approval rating than Bush” is quite a stretch. Yes, Congress does have a low approval rating lately — mostly because we didn’t elect ENOUGH Dems last November. So Reps don’t like Congress because there are too many Dems in it, and the Dems don’t like Congress because there aren’t enough Dems to override the bonehead-in-chief’s vetos. So it’s not surprising that nobody’s happy.
An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll conducted June 8 – 11 shows that 52% of American adults would prefer a Democrat for President, and only 31% would prefer a Republican. This doesn’t sound like Democrats have a lower approval rating to me.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:08 pm“wait spudge_boy, we? who are we? I thought you didn’t belong to any party? sniff, sniff….I smell a partisan hack.â€
We are progressives. Hence why I post and Think PROGRESS. We knew there was a problem in Washington long before the real republicans figured out there was an issue and are now latching onto our PROGRESSIVE movement to fix WAshington.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
I think you made a mistake, you ment to say….”We are thinkers of lies. Hence why I post in Think Shit.”
c’mon piece of human trash, get it straight, my mere mortal GI Joe. Man, don’t you know you are speaking to a Democratic god? c’mon son, respect your supeiors and those that know more than you.
I William Jefferson Clinton am a god, and if this insulent rat, pudgy is getting otu of hand, I will go Chinese Embassy in Seriba on you.
Hey by the way, why do you run away from the Liberal label, why do you call a progressive?
If you are a proud Liberal, why change and use the word progressive? eh?
typical useful fool, i mean tool of the left wingers.
Love little puppets like you, my little pinochio.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:12 pmComment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
For your education…
http://www.freepress.net/content/whoownsairwaves
June 20th, 2007 at 4:12 pmKatie: You obviously have formed your opinion of Glenn Beck and he could walk on water and he’d still be an evil conservative to you. So I won’t try… Regardless, you took many of his quotes out of context. He runs a comedy show with conservative political tendencies. But it’s comedy. If you don’t know a joke when you hear one, that’s on you. It’s too bad to because he’s really quite funny.
Comment by coachjason — June 20, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
coachjason, you’re giving it a try here, but please don’t fall prey to the temptation to dismiss another’s argument as easily as you did above.
Your concept of “comedy” alas differs from that of most liberals, and inded, that of most cultured humans the world over. What I mean by that is, typically, humor is effective when it’s aimed at oneself or, at least at the powerful. Most people feel uneasy laughing at jokes made at the expense of, say, women who have lost their children in an unjust war, or minority groups who struggle for equality.
Blacks can make jokes about black culture that whites can’t make for this reason. Blacks can also make jokes about whites and get away with it, because they’re not coming at it from a position of power. But when the powerful (and, yes, a white male is in a default position of power in our culture) makes fun of someone from another group it seems very close to bullying. And anger isn’t usually a very appealing tone of delivery, either.
That’s why we don’t find Glenn Beck’s “humor” very funny. It’s why we don’t find Rush’s comedy stylings very witty. And Ann Coulter’s standup routine is not a big winner. (Also because, well, there’s not much craft or wit in their “comedy” — no insight, just insults).
June 20th, 2007 at 4:13 pmTP = Troll bait.
Comment by smafdy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
Smafdy=Democratic party tool.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
President Clinton = fu*king moron
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
Thanks for dealing with that, Spudge.
This is fun. How’s this: The guy who posts here as President Clinton’s mama = an assnugget in a dingleberry necklace.
Seriously, it’s a troll-fest in here today, and there’s so much crap being generated and flung around it’s hard not to join in the fun.
Let’s not forget the trolls are Neocon Facists bent on destroying America.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:14 pm“An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll conducted June 8 – 11 shows that 52% of American adults would prefer a Democrat for President, and only 31% would prefer a Republican. This doesn’t sound like Democrats have a lower approval rating to me.”
Good information missmolly. I agree with you that the reason why Congress has such a low approval rating is because the Democrats can’t get anything done. And they can’t get anything done because the “It deserves a up or down vote” Republics are filibustering everything or Bush is vetoing it. I personally would like the Democrats to announce that they will no longer try to pass legislation and that they will spend the remainder of Bush’s term investigating their crimes and prosecuting the people who committed those crimes.
But, the Democrats have an awful lot of Democrats mad at them for rolling over and playing dead in the fight with Bush to fund the troops. If they do that again, I predict that the Democratic party will be dead.
Personally I would love to see someone like Russ Feingold start a new party, the Progressive Party and then run for president. I would be the first in line to sign up.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:15 pmIf you are a proud Liberal, why change and use the word progressive? eh?
typical useful fool, i mean tool of the left wingers.
Love little puppets like you, my little pinochio.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
I am a progressives. Some of my stances are liberal, but some like the death penalty and owning guns would be conservative. But, I never call myself conservative, because most conservatives, like you, are complete idiots.
The fact that you post using President Clinton as your handle proves this. Idiot.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:16 pmsmafdy,
Tell me about it. How does a troll posting as President Clinton expect for anybody to take him seriously for one sec?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:17 pmYes, please get rid of conservative radio so I can listen to a Progressive Gay Lesbian Feminist discuss celebrity news with homosexual callers.
And you know exactly who I’m talkin’ about.
There you have it folks…. a fine example of a brain washed filthy idiot consumed by hate America right wing talk radio. Bring on the hate… you worthless idiots… it soon will completely destroy your dwindling party you stand for.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:17 pmComment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
For your education…
http://www.freepress.net/content/whoownsairwaves
Comment by erock — June 20, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Ok Erock, so why isn’t AirAmerica paying me royalties for using my airwaves.
care to explain? I thought we Liberals were all about the people. Why doesn’t AirAmerica pay the people, the public money for using the public’s airwaves.
sounds to me that we Liberals want to have it both ways, eh?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:19 pmYou mean to tell me people still listen to broadcast radio?Why?All of them,save for a precious few,are owned by clear channel one or some other right wing support corporation and they constantly fill the airwaves with bullshit.Come on,just listen to that idiot Limpdick and you have a pretty good idea of what they all sound like;identical to one another.Wake up and listen to internet radio,no commercials no corporate spin and no fat ass,vicadon addicted,viagra popping assholes to put up with.I won’t mention any names cause i don’t want to sound like i’m attacking.Screw commercial radio and all of its idiot pundits!!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 4:21 pmIf you are a proud Liberal, why change and use the word progressive? eh?
typical useful fool, i mean tool of the left wingers.
Love little puppets like you, my little pinochio.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
I am a progressives. Some of my stances are liberal, but some like the death penalty and owning guns would be conservative. But, I never call myself conservative, because most conservatives, like you, are complete idiots.
The fact that you post using President Clinton as your handle proves this. Idiot.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
and you think you are being taken seriously, my mere little mortal, my puppet?
please son, I am William Jefferson Clinton, I am a Democratic go, I was President of the USA, I have raped and slept with more women than you can dream of, I am a god, and you are a poor little pieace of human garbage.
Actually, that is what I think of all those idiots that vote for me, pieces of garbage that are at my disposal to be used and abused by me.
So son, respect me, a god.
:)
June 20th, 2007 at 4:21 pmcare to explain? I thought we Liberals were all about the people. Why doesn’t AirAmerica pay the people, the public money for using the public’s airwaves.
sounds to me that we Liberals want to have it both ways, eh?
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
No, I don’t care to explain. It was enough for me to make you look stupid.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:21 pmI for one will never waste my time listening to rightwing radio. Rightwing radio is nothing but a pack of lies. If the rightwing is so good then why do they have to lie so much? If they ever told the truth about their agenda the support for them would drop like a stone.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:24 pmDear Mr ‘Sudo’ Clinton.
Progress is what gave America an edge in technology and manufacturing. Progress is a dynamic society. Progress brought together many different groups to clean up the slums and the pollution left behind by the robber barons. Progress ended child labor. Porgress gave you an eight hour day and time with your family. Progress makes tall buidlings and creates much needed jobs. Progress sent man to the moon. Progress is what allows you to type over the great spaghetti God innertube.
As for this thread, I never listen to talk Radio, never have and probably never will. Let them have their static AM noise machine. AM is as dead as 8 track players.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:25 pmMy sole request to TP is to list the commenter at the top of their comment. If, for example, “President Clinton” was clearly identified at the top of its comment, I could more easily skip it. As it is, sometimes I actually read a few of the garbled words before I realize it’s that particular idiot troll.
I’m asking politely.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:25 pm“An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll conducted June 8 – 11 shows that 52% of American adults would prefer a Democrat for President, and only 31% would prefer a Republican. This doesn’t sound like Democrats have a lower approval rating to me.â€
Good information missmolly. I agree with you that the reason why Congress has such a low approval rating is because the Democrats can’t get anything done. And they can’t get anything done because the “It deserves a up or down vote†Republics are filibustering everything or Bush is vetoing it. I personally would like the Democrats to announce that they will no longer try to pass legislation and that they will spend the remainder of Bush’s term investigating their crimes and prosecuting the people who committed those crimes.
But, the Democrats have an awful lot of Democrats mad at them for rolling over and playing dead in the fight with Bush to fund the troops. If they do that again, I predict that the Democratic party will be dead.
Personally I would love to see someone like Russ Feingold start a new party, the Progressive Party and then run for president. I would be the first in line to sign up.
Comment by Katie — June 20, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
While you are right, when you match Democratic Presidential candidates against Republican Presidential candidates, individuals like Guliani and Thompson win easy by 8 points or more.
so much for polls, eh?
never ceases to amaze me how we Liberals live and die by polls. sad, sad.
try to think on your own Katie….stop being a Democratic party puppet.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:26 pmOk Erock, so why isn’t AirAmerica paying me royalties for using my airwaves.
care to explain? I thought we Liberals were all about the people. Why doesn’t AirAmerica pay the people, the public money for using the public’s airwaves.
sounds to me that we Liberals want to have it both ways, eh?
Comment by President Clinton
What is this garbage? Another hate America troll bending the subject, which you f@krs always do – asking impossible questions in order to avoid the REAL issues. I will say one thing for you… YOU ALL DO WALK IN LOCK together.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:27 pm“care to explain? I thought we Liberals were all about the people. Why doesn’t AirAmerica pay the people, the public money for using the public’s airwaves.”
The money goes to the American People’s government, which is funding your war in Iraq. Jeez you are dumb.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:27 pm“Actually, that is what I think of all those idiots that vote for me,”
You mean “voted” as in past tense and that wouldn’t be me.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:28 pmThe repuke trolls are being particularly inbred today.
They must be agitated about Fox News condemning reichwing talk radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:28 pmcare to explain? I thought we Liberals were all about the people. Why doesn’t AirAmerica pay the people, the public money for using the public’s airwaves. -MPC
I Don’t need no stinking poor quality Amplitude Modulation!
June 20th, 2007 at 4:28 pmcare to explain? I thought we Liberals were all about the people. Why doesn’t AirAmerica pay the people, the public money for using the public’s airwaves.
sounds to me that we Liberals want to have it both ways, eh?
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
No, I don’t care to explain. It was enough for me to make you look stupid.
Comment by erock — June 20, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
Look stupid? so you believe everythign you read, eh? so a little website tells you that the public owns the airwaves, and you like an idiot, like a stupid person believed the website, eh?
Once again, any takers? If we the public own the airwaves, how come AirAmerica hasn’t paid royalties to the public? I thought we Liberals were for the people?
c’mon erock, be honest, the only people looking stupid are my Liberals puppets, that’s you, pudgy_boy, and the rest of my tools.
you do realize that all you are doing is spewing out propaganda that we the Democratic party have ordered you to spew out, right?
thanks for being such a willing puppet.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:29 pm“Comment by gummitch — June 20, 2007 @ 4:25 pm”
I think what would even be better is a “ignore” button by the posters name.
Once you select it, all their posts vanish…
Like what Netscape does…..
June 20th, 2007 at 4:29 pmI don’t listen to any propagandameister. I want information, not propaganda.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:29 pm“Good information missmolly. I agree with you that the reason why Congress has such a low approval rating is because the Democrats can’t get anything done. And they can’t get anything done because the “It deserves a up or down vote†Republics are filibustering everything or Bush is vetoing it. I personally would like the Democrats to announce that they will no longer try to pass legislation and that they will spend the remainder of Bush’s term investigating their crimes and prosecuting the people who committed those crimes.”
Interesting that this is exactly what I said, but when I said it, you disagreed with me.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:30 pmtry to think on your own Katie….stop being a Democratic party puppet.
Comment by President Clinton
Said the lemming as he prepared to dive off the cliff hoping others would follow suit.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:31 pmOnce again, any takers? If we the public own the airwaves, how come AirAmerica hasn’t paid royalties to the public? I thought we Liberals were for the people?
I ALREADY FU*KING TOLD YOU: THE MONEY GOES TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’S GOVERNMENT WHO IN TURN IS USING IT FOR YOUR WAR IN IRAQ. IDIOT.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:31 pmthanks for being such a willing puppet.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
All your questions answered…and more!!!
http://www.cspanjunkies.org/who-owns-the-airwaves/
June 20th, 2007 at 4:33 pmRepublics are filibustering everything or Bush is vetoing it.
Bush’s veto of on the stem cell issue means nothing really. If you look into the lobbyists you will find that many ‘conservative’ companies are actually lobbying to have this vetoed so private industry can and is doing the stem cell research. It’s a big fat ruse and a total non-issue.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:34 pmWill the phrase “liberal media” ever be put to rest, since it is entirely bereft of fact?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:36 pmThe media hasn’t been liberal in 30 years. Academia tends to be liberal because thinking people tend to view things in terms other than black and white, hence the troglodytes of the world, sneeringly label them “liberal.” The media today is owned and operated by big business, corporate friends of Bush, whose method of maintaining their accustomed profit level is to pander to the least common denominator, dissolve international bureaus, focus the news on the superficial, report the he-said, she-said and call it journalism. That kind of journalism serves only to keep the public at opposites based upon the hyperbole of the news spinners and the public’s gross lack of information and avenues to get the necessary information to form informed opinions.
The news is all about profits now – and profits based on the least amount of effort from the fewest number of qualified people — gotta keep those fat cats at the top happy. To hell with the public.
The only way to end it is to START LISTENING to progressive talk show hosts. Jeesh. Radio is MONEY oriented. If there is NO MONEY in airing someone, it won’t happen. So far conservative talk shows rake in the dough. Progressive shows are not doing as good. Limiting stations won’t do any good, changing the habits of listeners is the only solution. If people want to listen to conservatives, they are going to rake in the dough.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:36 pmOnce again, any takers? If we the public own the airwaves, how come AirAmerica hasn’t paid royalties to the public?
Okay I’ll bite. =) Do you get paid for the airwaves used for wireless internet? Cellphones? Wireless doorbell ringers? Ham Radio?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:36 pmSpudge_Boy
That freak does not care where the money goes… that idiot and others like it put those questions out there to trip up the conversation hoping that question can not be answered therefore in that freaks mind it won. Answer that, there will be another question they really do not care about. This is all they have for defense. Pathetic.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:37 pmPublic Airwaves = Public Highways
Radio Station License = Drivers License
Do you get paid for people driving on the freeway?
Idiot.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:39 pmYes, please get rid of conservative radio so I can listen to a Progressive Gay Lesbian Feminist discuss celebrity news with homosexual callers.
And you know exactly who I’m talkin’ about.
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Comment by jonny — June 20, 2007 @ 4:01 pm
Uhh actaully I have no idea who you are talking about.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:39 pmWhat about FM radio? How about walkie talkies? How about wireless cameras and security systems? Television signals? What about GPS? What about aircraft instruments and sattelite aircraft cell phones? What about regular cell phones?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:40 pm“The only way to end it is to START LISTENING to progressive talk show hosts. Jeesh. Radio is MONEY oriented. If there is NO MONEY in airing someone, it won’t happen. So far conservative talk shows rake in the dough. Progressive shows are not doing as good. Limiting stations won’t do any good, changing the habits of listeners is the only solution. If people want to listen to conservatives, they are going to rake in the dough.
Comment by Douglas G. — June 20, 2007 @ 4:36 pm”
That is NOT the problem……
It’s getting a radio station. When MOST of the stations are onwed by a Conservative/Republican minded corporation, then it is IMPOSSIBLE to get progressive talk on it.
It’s not about doing away with anything….. It’s about putting things into a FAIR manner.
All progressives want is a FAIR opportunity and a way to COUNTER the information that the right is spreading as fact, when it is nothing but lies.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:41 pmOk Erock, so why isn’t AirAmerica paying me royalties for using my airwaves.
care to explain? I thought we Liberals were all about the people. Why doesn’t AirAmerica pay the people, the public money for using the public’s airwaves.
sounds to me that we Liberals want to have it both ways, eh?
Comment by President Clinton
What is this garbage? Another hate America troll bending the subject, which you f@krs always do – asking impossible questions in order to avoid the REAL issues. I will say one thing for you… YOU ALL DO WALK IN LOCK together.
Comment by had enough — June 20, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
Sorry had enough, I only see you, my puppets walking lock step.
We Liberals hate anyone that doesn’t agree with our Liberal ideology.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:44 pmStupid troll has no clue how the FCC works.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:46 pmThis is hardly surprising.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:46 pmThe main reason Rush went to the airwaves is because he couldn’t muster an audience on televised broadcasts. He wasn’t visually popular.
Let the Green Acre conservatives have their telephone pole antiquity and Mr Haney politics
Hey I kinda like that…Mr Haney politics.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:46 pmPublic Airwaves = Public Highways
Radio Station License = Drivers License
Do you get paid for people driving on the freeway?
Idiot.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
Actually, I do. :) thanks for asking my little 80 IQ buddy. Gosh pudgy, how you know?
are you honestly claiming now that our highways are ours too? so why do we all pay tolls to use most of them?
and the ones that are supposedly free are paid through gasoline taxes?
c’mon my 80 IQ buddy, you can’t be this slow and dumb. You are just playing, right? you are playing to be a stupid person, c’mon be honest now.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:47 pmStupid troll has no clue how liberals work, either.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:48 pm250 comments on this thread so far.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:50 pmRush’s OxyContin zombies must be in full on whiner mode.
Sorry had enough, I only see you, my puppets walking lock step. -MPC
Puppets don’t walk, puppets have a GOP hand up their derrier. Much like Haggard or Foley or Gannon, holding hands, as they trample thru the rose garden
June 20th, 2007 at 4:51 pmStupid troll has no clue how highway funding works, either.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:51 pmare you honestly claiming now that our highways are ours too? so why do we all pay tolls to use most of them?
WE don’t. I don’t know where the fu*k you live, but in California, it is my tax dollars that pay for the PUBLIC highways that I own a part of.
ANd the only one here that looks stupid is the idiot that doesn’t know who owns the road and the airwaves. Idiot.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:52 pmare you honestly claiming now that our highways are ours too? so why do we all pay tolls to use most of them.
We pay tolls so they can be paid off quicker. Dunno where you live but Texas has no state tax. The tollways,once paid off, have the toll booths removed.
Why do you pay for parking at a sports stadium paid for by city bonds?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:54 pmComment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 4:47 pm
Just out of curiosity, who do you think owns the airwaves and the roads?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:54 pm“My sole request to TP is to list the commenter at the top of their comment. If, for example, “President Clinton†was clearly identified at the top of its comment, I could more easily skip it.”
I agree. I vote for that idea. For a while I was able to recognize it’s posts by the multiple use of exclamation points, but it doesn’t do that any longer. I really wish that someone would come up with blogging software that would allow a real “kill-file”. It would make reading this site so much more enjoyable if I didn’t have to wade through the trolls and the people who like to feed the trolls.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:56 pmI’ve noticed that conservatard radio is big because conservatards listen to it. It’s a reinforcement thing, like church, that libs don’t need or want. I have conversations with libs and they talk way outside the box. Conversations with tards end up being regurgitated Limpbaugh or mAnn-speak. No surprise.
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AirAmerica tried to push lefty views on radio. It failed because radio isn’t a good means of talking a message based on feelings and emotions. Logic and Common Sense play better on the radio which means conservative views win. TV does a way better job for the lefties as idea’s based 100% on emotions play better.
Comment by Retard_Retard — June 20, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
Um… Terry Shiavo, abortion, nationalism, gay marriage, Arab boogeymen, etc. Yep, logic and common sense right there.
Repuglican axis of evil: rich, rednecked and retarded.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:56 pmMarie laments, “The media hasn’t been liberal in 30 years.” You don’t listen to ErrAmerica, DemoNOW! NPR? You don’t read the NYT, the Boston Globe, The SF Chronicle? You poor thing – no wonder you think the media is conservative!! And no critique of conservative talk radio would be complete without the required bashing of EVIL corporations.
IF liberal radio could draw an audience (that’s a BIIIIG “IF”) advertisers would be flocking to Progtard Programming. Frankly, it’s a poor business decision to advertise in a place where the ratings are so poor. (And when we get the %% increases thrown at us from Arbitron, you’ll note that Progs discuss % increases. FYI – for you math-tards….If I have 4 people listening and 2 more tune in i may have increased my listenership 50%…..but it’s still only 6 people.)
“Academia tends to be liberal because thinking people tend to view things in terms other than black and white,” This Holy Grail of the Left fogets that most Leftards would LOVE great salaries for 9 months worth of work.…and have you ever met people who know their benefit packages BETTER than a liberal?? These are the folks who come to work to take a break….
June 20th, 2007 at 4:56 pmare you honestly claiming now that our highways are ours too? so why do we all pay tolls to use most of them?
WE don’t. I don’t know where the fu*k you live, but in California, it is my tax dollars that pay for the PUBLIC highways that I own a part of.
ANd the only one here that looks stupid is the idiot that doesn’t know who owns the road and the airwaves. Idiot.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
So, when the roads of California were built, did the government of California call you up or your ancestors and ask you which roads and where you wanted them?
hey, i guess by your standards, we all own the military, right? our taxes pay for the military, thus we own them, right?
we also own the police, firefighters, etc, etc, etc.
keep on living in naive land boy.
I own you boy, I and my party own you. You are a good Democratic tool, please don’t ever stop, ok?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:57 pmI’ve noticed that conservatard radio is big because conservatards listen to it. It’s a reinforcement thing, like church, that libs don’t need or want. I have conversations with libs and they talk way outside the box. Conversations with tards end up being regurgitated Limpbaugh or mAnn-speak. No surprise.
#
AirAmerica tried to push lefty views on radio. It failed because radio isn’t a good means of talking a message based on feelings and emotions. Logic and Common Sense play better on the radio which means conservative views win. TV does a way better job for the lefties as idea’s based 100% on emotions play better.
Comment by Retard_Retard — June 20, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
Um… Terry Shiavo, abortion, nationalism, gay marriage, Arab boogeymen, etc. Yep, logic and common sense right there.
Repuglican axis of evil: rich, rednecked and retarded.
Comment by jason — June 20, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
yeap, just like me!!! I am rich, a redneck and retarded!!!! Yes, I william jefferson Clinton am rich, a redneck and retarded. So why do people claim that I am a Democratic god?
how about Reid, the man is a Mormon, a redneck and a retard too? wait…too many Democratic politicians fit this.
Jason, stop calling Democrats retards, you insulent fool! you shall pay for your insults towards our party members. You dumb tool, my puppet.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:59 pmI once lived in Oklahoma they had a state tax and horrible roadways.
Texas has no state tax and much better roadways. The Bush tollway (aint that a kicker MPC?) is quite modern (nobody calls it Bush tollway but 190) but is currently kinda expensive. It is however, I must admit, quite nice to drive on. DO I credit Bush for solely for this? No. Why? Because the Governor in Texas is not much more than a title. The Lt. Governor does the real work.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:59 pmerock – who do you think owns the air?
June 20th, 2007 at 4:59 pmSpongey – You never take the toll road to bypass the 405? That Measure M tax money sure forgot to mention the toll portion of the proposal……
“So, when the roads of California were built, did the government of California call you up or your ancestors and ask you which roads and where you wanted them?”
That is done by the officials elected to represent the people of California. Idiot.
“hey, i guess by your standards, we all own the military, right? our taxes pay for the military, thus we own them, right?
we also own the police, firefighters, etc, etc, etc.”
Yes, we do own them moron. God fu*king damn you are stupid.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:00 pmare you honestly claiming now that our highways are ours too? so why do we all pay tolls to use most of them.
We pay tolls so they can be paid off quicker. Dunno where you live but Texas has no state tax. The tollways,once paid off, have the toll booths removed.
Why do you pay for parking at a sports stadium paid for by city bonds?
Comment by Zep Tepi — June 20, 2007 @ 4:54 pm
hey Zep Tepi, using my puppets standards, pudgy_boy, we own the parking lot of all sports stadium, since the public pays for it every single time it goes and parks there to see a sporting event, right?
ah, my Liberal puppets, so easy to pull your strings.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:01 pmAmerica does not have a Free Press. Force radio, TV, and newspapers to go one week without advertising revenues and just the receipts from paying customers and they’d all fold.
American media are nothing but the propaganda wing of corporate America. The consumer is not YOU but GM, Ford, Disney, Microsoft, Coke, Pepsi, McDonalds, etc. You are shown what those companies want you to see according to what gender and age they want to sell to. Anything upsetting to those consumers will get spiked. And ‘friendly’ politicians will be hyped.
The First Amendment may protect the Free Press, but it doesn’t guarantee one. The lack of a Free Press requires some proactive legislation to guarantee that propaganda should not be passed off as ‘news’ and bias promoted as debate.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:01 pmSo why do people claim that I am a Democratic god?
I never have. But then again it was George that claimed to speak to God.
Was he talking to you?
Besides I am not a Democrat.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:01 pm“Spongey – You never take the toll road to bypass the 405?”
mighty aphrodite,
No I don’t I only take FREEways. Why would I pay money to a private company for what I can get for free.
Besides, why would I use a toll road that doesn’t go anywhere near my house or work? For fun?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:02 pmhey Zep Tepi, using my puppets standards, pudgy_boy, we own the parking lot of all sports stadium, since the public pays for it every single time it goes and parks there to see a sporting event, right?
ah, my Liberal puppets, so easy to pull your strings.
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
Yes, everything that is paid for using taxpayers money is owned by the public.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:04 pmah, my Liberal puppets, so easy to pull your strings. Comment by
President Clinton
That would be a marionette. Not a puppet. *rolls eyes* Besides that George was manager of the Texas Rangers, formerly a Washington team. I wont go into the emminent domain used to obtain the land.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:04 pm“Academia tends to be liberal because thinking people tend to view things in terms other than black and white,†This Holy Grail of the Left fogets that most Leftards would LOVE great salaries for 9 months worth of work.…and have you ever met people who know their benefit packages BETTER than a liberal?? These are the folks who come to work to take a break….
Comment by valiant venus — June 20, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
You really think that the only work being done in Academia is teaching? When there aren’t students there, there’s reasearch, writing, conferences, private collaboration, product development…it’s a full-time job.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:06 pmMr. Clinton needs to lay off the beans.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:06 pmhey Zep Tepi, using my puppets standards, pudgy_boy, we own the parking lot of all sports stadium, since the public pays for it every single time it goes and parks there to see a sporting event, right?
I guess you never stopped to think that your paying for security and lot attendants and not the land itself.
So easy to throw peanuts in a monkey house.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:07 pmAt least “Frank J” and “Steven M. Nielson” are interesting to debate on this site. “President Clinton” is like debating with a third-grader . . . a third-grader with a first-grade education.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:08 pmThese are the folks who come to work to take a break….
Comment by valiant venus
Just cant put down the fingerpaints can you?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:09 pmSounds like we are back to square one in your attempt to “Crash The Gates”. I was alarmed when the leading Democratic presidential candidates fell all over themselves trying to demonstrate who was the better Christian. Last week, Obama had a video of some woman singing about a crush she had on him, which crushed his poll numbers down to John Edwards level – that is some crush. Yesterday, I see Chris Matthews and friends begging Bloomberg to get into the race, hoping Gore would be a running mate. Now, I see you guys re-addressing the talk radio gap again.
I guess the head of steam you all built up to win control of congress, has now backfired (as I predicted, and Raum Emanuel dreaded) with the Democratic congress having an approval rating lower the dubya’s. You were wise to hide Nanci Pelosi and Harry Reid prior to the election, but we have all seen them in action, and the US says “Yuck”.
Don’t worry, all of this was an exercise in futility. I told you politics would not change until Hill’reh ran and lost, so it never mattered what you did – win or lose. Hill’reh will do anything to be the Dem candidate, and as such, will lose to any Rep put against her, under any circumstances, so just sit back and enjoy the show, as I am.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:10 pmAt least “Frank J†and “Steven M. Nielson†are interesting to debate on this site.
Frank J??????
Maybe Steven M. Nielson if he really wants to deabte, but this morning was concern troll tactics and agreeing with all of the other trolls.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:10 pm#33, umm, it is not widly known that the traditional media is liberally biased, nope it is widly stated by the conservative outlets that everyone else is liberally biased. Thus it allows them to excuse their over the top partisan cheerleading for only one side of the equation. But just because they state that the rest of the media is wildly liberal does nto make it a truth.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:10 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler — June 20, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
And who shows up to plagreize somebody elses work? None other than our very own fascist Jason M Hendler.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:11 pmAnother consideration, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN all lean towards liberal views. Are you going to force them to have more time for conservative news reporting and views.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:13 pmMost people listen to the radio for entertainment purposes.
Conservative talk radio is almost exactly the same as Shock Jock radio (i.e. more people listen because they disagree with the host than actually agree with them or simply want to hear how far their going to go).
Progressive radio isn’t very entertaining and quite frankly as a progressive myself I get tired of listening to people I agree with far faster than those I disagree with. This would explain why the numbers don’t match up with the population, conservatives listen to progressive radio and progressives listen to conservation radio because the disagreement is entertaining to them. (guilty pleasure?)
June 20th, 2007 at 5:15 pmAnother consideration, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN all lean towards liberal views. Are you going to force them to have more time for conservative news reporting and views.
Comment by Douglas G. — June 20, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
No they don’t and just because you say it doesn’t make it real.
No read posts 1 through 288 to catch up. We are way past this talking point.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:16 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler
You used that same cup of wisdom back in 2006 and were wrong.=)
June 20th, 2007 at 5:16 pmComment by Justposting — June 20, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
And there are a lot of progressives that listen and record NeoCOn radio to call them on their bullsh!t.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:17 pmAnother consideration, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN all lean towards liberal views. Are you going to force them to have more time for conservative news reporting and views.
Comment by Douglas G
They only look like “liberal views” if you’re standing waaaaaaay over there on the Right wing.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:17 pmAnother consideration, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN all lean towards liberal views. Are you going to force them to have more time for conservative news reporting and views.
Comment by Douglas G. — June 20, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
No they don’t and just because you say it doesn’t make it real.
No read posts 1 through 288 to catch up. We are way past this talking point.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
just because you claim they aren’t Liberal it doesn’t mean they are not. Wake up and smell the roses my poor naive puppet.
here is another example, my retard, would you be willing for AirAmerica radio stations to broadcast the same amount of Conservative time than Liberal time?
In Chicago, 850AM only broadcasts AirAmerican radio, do you believe that they should be forced to broadcast conservative talking heads?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:19 pmAs a liberal talkshow host, I agree that corporate ownership is the culprit in this and most issues facing the radio industry. Conservatism caught on in commercial radio as Rush Limbaugh found success and corporate copycats immediately decided that conservatives were the primary AM, and therefore, talkradio audience. Relaxing the ownership rules only entrenched that short-sighted philosophy deeper into the industry. Things are starting to change as broadcasters in many regions find success with progressive talk. But re-instating the “fairness doctrine” is the wrong way to go. Progressives, especially progressives in the industry, just have to work harder and keep pushing against the behemoths. Air America is working inspite of its financial troubles. It’s still on the air, after all. If you’ve ever worked in radio you know that NOTHING is successful overnight. Everything and EVERYBODY needs time to reach its potential.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:22 pmIn Chicago, 850AM only broadcasts AirAmerican radio, do you believe that they should be forced to broadcast conservative talking heads?
Comment by President Clinton
Media creates controversy as a means to make a profit. This is really not much different than hackers creating viruse so they can fix the problem.
I don’t put much into value into either one. I don’t need anti-virus programs (as I’m computer literate) and I don’t need talk radio (Im literate enough to read the bills myself)
Capice?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:24 pmRush Limbaugh calls himself a conservative, by his own definition, he isn’t.
He is a controversative. And like GOP Arnold says, and I agree, Irrelevent.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:26 pmComment by Justposting — June 20, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
And there are a lot of progressives that listen and record NeoCOn radio to call them on their bullsh!t.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
Don’t worry, conservatives also listen to Liberal radio and watch Liberal televison and call them on their bull sh!t.
that is the problem with LIberals today, for decades you have had control of the airwaves, along came Limbaugh in the 1980s and then Foxnews in the mid-1990s and you lost the airwaves monopoly and you don’t like that.
that is what is all about, Liberals having complete and utter control of the news and information spoon fed to Americans for decades and now having lost that control.
how sad for you spudgy my puppet boy.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:26 pmLiberals haven’t listened to talk radio in so long, that it’s difficult to bring them into the fold once these new shows become available. When liberal programming comes to town, a notable portion of the listeners are conservative talk-radio junkies just curious and in need of something different. I can’t imagine a huge rush of liberals tuning in, especially if the station can’t get the word out.
Also, the talk radio style isn’t always a good fit for “compassionate” liberals. One way that talk radio hosts try to get ratings is to slur and dehumanize the opposition. How many times do I need to hear Randi Rhodes call George Bush a monkey? That not kind of show that I would tune in to every day.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:26 pmVV again has her half-assed talking points of argument.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:27 pmShe is comparing the extremely limited AAR broadcasts to the hundreds of conservative radio stations across the nation. She also believes the NYT (remember, Judy Miller’s paper? the one that pushed for the war in Iraq with false information because they didn’t investigate and ask questions) is liberal. She conveniently forgets that the NYT is the nation’s “newspaper” — the one with huge readership here as well as in the world.
VV is pitting the tiny Boston Globe, — which actually isn’t liberal, but because it comes from Massachusetts, she assumed it is liberal, — with the Washington Post, the New York Post, Chicago Tribune, and other far more prominent and conservative newspapers.
People like VV who come here and trash this site with their hate-filled and misinformed comments need to find somewhere else to spread their bullshit.
In Chicago, 850AM only broadcasts AirAmerican radio, do you believe that they should be forced to broadcast conservative talking heads?
Comment by President Clinton
Media creates controversy as a means to make a profit. This is really not much different than hackers creating viruse so they can fix the problem.
I don’t put much into value into either one. I don’t need anti-virus programs (as I’m computer literate) and I don’t need talk radio (Im literate enough to read the bills myself)
Capice?
Comment by Zep Tepi — June 20, 2007 @ 5:24 pm
Zep Tepi, well good for you, but look at how TP actually is trying to come with a plan to destroy conservative radio. They sound quite desperate don’t you think?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:27 pm“just because you claim they aren’t Liberal it doesn’t mean they are not. Wake up and smell the roses my poor naive puppet.”
Okay, now you are seriously repeating what I say. Stop it and take your own side and come up with your own arguements.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:27 pm“Comment by Joe T — June 20, 2007 @ 5:22 pm”
Joe, why do you say “re-instating the “fairness doctrine†is the wrong way to go”??
I see it as a positive…..
Requiring an equal voice of the opposite view is something that has been missing since the doctrine was dumped.
Forcing EQUAL time is a good thing. That’s kinda like saying that the fat kid should not be made to give some of his excessive food on his plate to some of the other kids just because he got there first.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:28 pm“Don’t worry, conservatives also listen to Liberal radio and watch Liberal televison and call them on their bull sh!t.”
Too bad there are so few of you fu*ktards or the ratings would be higher.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:28 pmIn Chicago, 850AM only broadcasts AirAmerican radio, do you believe that they should be forced to broadcast conservative talking heads?
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
Not until there is somefu*king balance idiot.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:29 pmZep Tepi, well good for you, but look at how TP actually is trying to come with a plan to destroy conservative radio. They sound quite desperate don’t you think?
Comment by President Clinton
And I say so what? They have freedom of speech just like you do. Do they ban you from posting on this site?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:30 pm“How many times do I need to hear Randi Rhodes call George Bush a monkey? That not kind of show that I would tune in to every day.
Comment by Fugazi — June 20, 2007 @ 5:26 pm”
Randi is GREAT!!!
She not only reads the FACTS on air to you, but also provides them on her web site…….
OK, so she may beat on old Monkey boy from time to time but 95% of the time she is ONLY providing VERIFYABLE FACTS…
June 20th, 2007 at 5:31 pmZep Tepi, well good for you, but look at how TP actually is trying to come with a plan to destroy conservative radio. They sound quite desperate don’t you think?
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
Not destroy. Balance. We know you like to make sh!t up, but we aren’t going to let it fly.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:31 pmThe conservative movement has been badmouthing people they don’t know for years for their ideology. Godless liberal books and other such things. Do you really think that kind of stuff doesn’t create opposition?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:32 pmIn Chicago, 850AM only broadcasts AirAmerican radio, do you believe that they should be forced to broadcast conservative talking heads?
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
Not until there is somefu*king balance idiot.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
That’s what I thought you would say my retard, my puppet. You want the fairness doctrine to silence Conservatives and for you balance is to cut short the time conservatives are on the air and give more time to Liberals.
how truly sad for you my puppet. You are just but another sad, sad, very sad nazi.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:33 pm“How many times do I need to hear Randi Rhodes call George Bush a monkey?”
She doesn’t talk about Bush all the time. There are hundreds of Republicans breaking the law at any minute of the day to talk about.
How about Rudy Guliani’s SC campaign manager getting indicted for distribution of cocaine. Bush likes cocaine, maybe Rudy does also.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:34 pm“Don’t worry, conservatives also listen to Liberal radio and watch Liberal televison and call them on their bull sh!t.â€
Too bad there are so few of you fu*ktards or the ratings would be higher.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:28 pm
If it helps you sleep at night to believe your wet dream my friend. Don’t forget that talking heads like Rush and Hannity, etc have 20 million listeners or more.
ratings that Liberals would love to have.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:34 pmwho listens to regular radio and the endless commercials? i rather read.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:34 pm“That’s what I thought you would say my retard, my puppet. You want the fairness doctrine to silence Conservatives and for you balance is to cut short the time conservatives are on the air and give more time to Liberals.”
Once again I never said silence, you did. I want balance, but to you that means all or none, because you are a typical morn that sees in black and white.
You just keep calling me a puppet from the safety of your basement. If you were in front of me, you would need some dental work. So, enjoy your annonimity.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:36 pmZep Tepi, well good for you, but look at how TP actually is trying to come with a plan to destroy conservative radio. They sound quite desperate don’t you think?
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
Not destroy. Balance. We know you like to make sh!t up, but we aren’t going to let it fly.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
Balance? you call forcing Americans to listen to Liberal talking heads balance?
why are you so against giving them a choice?
In Chicago there are three talking head stations, 560AM, 890AM and 850AM.
850AM is 100% Liberal radio, and guess what, it has less traffic than the other two stations that are Conservative stations, whose fault is that?
It is not the fault of Conservatives that Liberals don’t listen or aren’t good enough to do well in radio.
Like a good Nazi, you want to ram down the throat of Americans what you want them to listen too.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:38 pm“If it helps you sleep at night to believe your wet dream my friend. Don’t forget that talking heads like Rush and Hannity, etc have 20 million listeners or more.”
Who cares?
How does Hannity or Limballs listenership affect me in any way.
Also, the numbers are only that high if you add them all up.
Bill O’Rielly, the most popular right wing talking head has 1.9 millino listeners.
8 million people play World of Warcraft.
so, 4 times as many people would rather live in Blizzard’s fantasy world than live in your fantasy land.
Moron.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:39 pmhow truly sad for you my puppet. You are just but another sad, sad, very sad nazi. Comment by President Clinton
The fairness doctrine didn’t just work for the liberals MPC. The fairness doctrine was to reduce propaganda on both sides of the aisle. Propaganda can be a very dangerous thing. We should look at what happened in Germany and not engage in such dehumanizing language.
NO PARTY SHOULD EVER ENGAGE IN HATE.
Hate speak is never a good thing.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:39 pm“That’s what I thought you would say my retard, my puppet. You want the fairness doctrine to silence Conservatives and for you balance is to cut short the time conservatives are on the air and give more time to Liberals.â€
Once again I never said silence, you did. I want balance, but to you that means all or none, because you are a typical morn that sees in black and white.
You just keep calling me a puppet from the safety of your basement. If you were in front of me, you would need some dental work. So, enjoy your annonimity.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
Spudgy my boy, my GI Joe friend, I am shacking in my boots, literally! oh know, you would knock my teeth off.
why don’t you put some teeth behind your threat. Give me your name and address and I’ll go show up in yoru home and then I’ll help you clean up your teeth.
sounds good? Let us see how brave a progressive really is.
tick, tock, tick, tock….
June 20th, 2007 at 5:39 pm“Balance? you call forcing Americans to listen to Liberal talking heads balance?”
I never said force, you did. Your black and white brain is broken and in need of repair.
Like I said, you won’t be able to spew your lies here or make up stories. I will always come back and straighten your lies and stories out.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:41 pmhow truly sad for you my puppet. You are just but another sad, sad, very sad nazi. Comment by President Clinton
The fairness doctrine didn’t just work for the liberals MPC. The fairness doctrine was to reduce propaganda on both sides of the aisle. Propaganda can be a very dangerous thing. We should look at what happened in Germany and not engage in such dehumanizing language.
NO PARTY SHOULD EVER ENGAGE IN HATE.
Hate speak is never a good thing.
Comment by Zep Tepi — June 20, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
Zep, I agree, but it is just too much fun to play with little people, with naive, less than 80 IQ people like pudgy boy.
he is such a good, naive Democratic puppet. It is so fun to play with his simple mind, you know?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:42 pm“Spudgy my boy, my GI Joe friend, I am shacking in my boots, literally! oh know, you would knock my teeth off.”
First, it is “shaking” second it is “out” and you are an enemy of the state. You are a domestic enemy and I took an oath to protect my country from people like you.
You are lucky you are safe in your annonimity to say whatever you want on the Internet. Chicken sh!t chicken hawk.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:42 pm“Balance? you call forcing Americans to listen to Liberal talking heads balance?â€
I never said force, you did. Your black and white brain is broken and in need of repair.
Like I said, you won’t be able to spew your lies here or make up stories. I will always come back and straighten your lies and stories out.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
Ok, son, explain how you would get Americans to listen to Liberal talking heads on radio.
what is your plan?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:43 pmhe is such a good, naive Democratic puppet. It is so fun to play with his simple mind, you know?
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
You ain’t playing with anybody. Moron.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:43 pm“Spudgy my boy, my GI Joe friend, I am shacking in my boots, literally! oh know, you would knock my teeth off.â€
First, it is “shaking†second it is “out†and you are an enemy of the state. You are a domestic enemy and I took an oath to protect my country from people like you.
You are lucky you are safe in your annonimity to say whatever you want on the Internet. Chicken sh!t chicken hawk.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 20, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
But if you are so brave, GI Joe, why not give me your name and address and we will settle this like men? well me as men, you as a poor, naive little boy.
I mean if you are braver than me, prove it, give me your name and address.
show me what you are made of, my progressive puppet, my liberal GI Joe.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:44 pm“Ok, son, explain how you would get Americans to listen to Liberal talking heads on radio.”
Have you been paying attention?
First, start at the very top of the thread and read CAPs plan.
Then go fu*k yourself.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:45 pm#300 – Marie – it must be tiresome to be misinformed so often. Why don’t you ever comment on all the conservatism at the NYT besides Judith Miller?? ****foot tapping*****
Compare the editorials from the Boston Globe to the Boston Herald – you might not appear sooo embittered.
With all the material success of Leftards, they should be buying up radio stations left and right…I mean Left!
June 20th, 2007 at 5:46 pmBut if you are so brave, GI Joe, why not give me your name and address and we will settle this like men? well me as men, you as a poor, naive little boy.
Come on down to SoCal. When you get in the area, I live in Lake Forest. We will meet at a mutually agreeable location. I am not stupid and won’t put my family in danger from crazyies like you. There are plenty of places in Lake Forest that will be agreeable, since I live in a Republican town.
Let me know when you are coming and we can start setting up the plans.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:47 pmIt is widely known that the MSM is liberal biased, and talk radio is conservative biased. I dont understand why the liberal want to remove the ability for conservatives to gather and talk via the airwaves… it is not like the MSM outlets would EVER consider giving non-biased reports or equal airtime to both sides of an issue… not with the 20 second spots that give you the “headlinesâ€. Instead of a Fascist movement hell bent on shutting the opposition up, let’s let sleeping dogs lie… if Air America wants more airtime, broadcast to where the liberals are listening, i.e. the MUSIC CHANNELS.
Oh, and Spudge Boy… why resort to name calling. Very basic conversation ability is all that you are showing. One step above grunting and scratching yourself are comments like “…dumb fu*kâ€. Let’s keep it both positive and intelligent.
Comment by Steven M Nielson — June 20, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
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June 20th, 2007 at 5:48 pmYea keep repeating the lie that the MSM is conservative. It never has been and never will be when all the owners and management are big conservative republicans. Stop making shit up and repeating lies spread by the conservative echo chamber. The conservatives rule talk radio because the conservatives own the radio stations and have an agenda. They even own Fox (also known as the Bush talking points network). The media is constantly all about conservative spin. Our country would be lucky to have the media dominated by liberals because we would then actually receive news and not get news stories squashed because the truth would make republicans and conservatives look bad.
“…8 million people play World of Warcraft…”
Comment by Spudge Boy
Thankfully, many of those 8 mil are a large part of the populace who don’t bother to vote…..
June 20th, 2007 at 5:49 pmHey President Clinton, you couls stay with avlient venus. She is in San Diego. It is abotu a 45 minute drive, but you wouldn’t have to pay for a room and she is a good little troll like you.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:51 pmThankfully, many of those 8 mil are a large part of the populace who don’t bother to vote…..
Comment by valiant venus — June 20, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
Uh huh. Whatever you want to believe.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:51 pmSponge – If I didn’t know better, I would think the AARPers in Lake Forest and Laguna Woods would frown on duelling….we wouldn’t want to interrupt the BINGO caller.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:51 pmThe trolls here simply don’t have the capacity to grasp the facts regarding radio broadcasting.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:51 pmConservatives own the major outlets.
Liberals, like AA carried on WCPT-850, is relegated to “daytime” hours only, and with a limited range signal. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that limited hours on a weaker signal is not going to reach the audience of the competition on 24/7 and heard over several states.
The FCC has allowed the consolidation of the media, to the detriment of balanced broadcasting across the country.
Why should AA broadcast conservatives for balance, when the whole system is off balance? When there are as many liberal stations as conservative, then I will listen to the argument. For now, the conservatives are being true to form — they want it all, they want it their way and they whine and stomp their feet if they have to share even the teeniest bit of what they have.
Spoiled brats – never grew up. Rich, selfish offpsring of narrow-minded parents; their mantra is “I got mine, go get your own.” Regardless that they got where they are through theft, bribery, chicanery and nepotism. Whether they are talking about broadcasting, medical care, tax cuts or jobs — it’s always the same with them.
It is so fun to play with his simple mind, you know? Comment by President Clinton
Perhaps its fun, but when somebody cleans your clock, or mine, because they don’t think you or I am funny, then its no longer a game, its a crime.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:53 pmSponge – If I didn’t know better, I would think the AARPers in Lake Forest and Laguna Woods would frown on duelling….we wouldn’t want to interrupt the BINGO caller.
Comment by valiant venus — June 20, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
Heh. Now that was funny.
Is Laguna Woods what they are calling Liesure World now? They still have up Liesure World signs and I haven’t heard anybody use the new name yet. I not sure if it has caught on or if it is too hard for the old people to remeber, so there is a 40 year grace period.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:53 pmThankfully, many of those 8 mil are a large part of the populace who don’t bother to vote….. Comment by valiant venus
Then why bother caging?
June 20th, 2007 at 5:54 pmSpudgy my boy, my GI Joe friend, I am shacking in my boots, literally! oh know, you would knock my teeth off.
why don’t you put some teeth behind your threat. Give me your name and address and I’ll go show up in yoru home and then I’ll help you clean up your teeth.
sounds good? Let us see how brave a progressive really is.
tick, tock, tick, tock….
Comment by President Clinton — June 20, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
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June 20th, 2007 at 5:55 pmGod, you are so pathetic!!! It is all about being a violent bully for you, isn’t it? Pack up your bags and leave our country, there are plenty of third world countries that could always use another thug.
Comment by Liberal Cheesehead — June 20, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
I must admit I started it.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:56 pmMarie – When there are as many liberal stations? What a stupidly ignorant comment. If I said, I won’t send any of the mini valiants to college until there are an equal number of conservative professors, I would be cutting my children’s chances of success. No, dear, conservative parents like me send our kids off to college and counsel them on the subtle and overt bias of their professors so their little brains don’t become infected with envy and despair.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:57 pmVV doesn’t read the NYT — she only repeats what her masters tell her. The NYT is conservative. VV can’t tell the difference between editorials and reporting from the token liberal columnist.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:57 pmI can’t reply to her insanity and closed mind any more — she is a hopeless and hateful troll, an ignorant sheep.
I don’t care how you try and frame it, this is all “RW radio is being listened to more than LW radio so we want the gov’t to make it balanced.” Nothing but fascism. Goebbels would have been proud of the modern day liberal.
No thought whatsoever on your part that even if it were 50/50, there’s no guarantee that LW radio would be listened to anymore than it is now. In fact, I would say it’s prettty evident by who’s listening to talk radio now that the RW shows would be what the overwhelming majority tune in to hear, and then they’ll flip it to somehting else when LW radio comes on. The only shift will be the gov’t mandated time of how long RW and LW programming can be on, but you can’t force the listeners to listen to both. And they won’t.
June 20th, 2007 at 5:58 pm“Then why bother caging?
Comment by Zep Tepi — June 20, 2007 @ 5:54 pm”
Because the ONLY way they can win is by cheating……
Notice the only group that “cages” are the Republicans and they “promissed” 2x in the past that they would not perform this again……
Why does ANYONE believe a single word spoken out of a Republican’s mouth????
I realize that even the Dems lie, but at least it is only now and then and not in every breath….
June 20th, 2007 at 5:59 pmWell Marie, I suppose the NYT is conservative when compared to The Nation, Mother Jones, Revolution or the old Pravda. Thank you for not embarrassing yourself re: liberal college professors……..
June 20th, 2007 at 6:03 pmLet us see how brave a progressive really is. tick, tock, tick, tock….
Comment by President Clinton
I talk with my conservative neighbors all the time. It’s an ideology not a lifestyle MPC. There are very few differences between the unelected Salus Populi.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:04 pmHeck my conservative neighbors parents are Democrats. My parents call themselves Conservative Republicans. Do we knock out each others teeth? No.
re: liberal college professors……..Comment by valiant venus
V V don’t forget that George and Dick both attended so called ‘liberal colleges’ with ‘liberal’ professors. =)
June 20th, 2007 at 6:07 pmComment by Zep Tepi — June 20, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
The only time I ever talk to a republican like our trolls, is on this web site. None of my republican friends in my neighborhood are anything like these people. When you tell them something they go “Hmmmmm, you don’t say.” then the next time I talk to them they go “I heard something about that thing” then the next time they say “Wow, you were right” They don’t go try and find a talking point to dispute what I say. The trolls only want to be contrary, even if they are 100% wrong.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:09 pmZep – “Heck my conservative neighbors parents are Democrats. My parents call themselves Conservative Republicans.”
We all go through our rebellion stage – some of us just grow out of it – that’s all…….
I did notice CAP suggests more “diversity in ownership”……why do Progs always cite “diversity” except when it comes to liberal institutions?? If this doesn’t prove the misunderstanding of markets, I don’t know what does….
Tooodles………
June 20th, 2007 at 6:10 pmComment by valiant venus
You know V V, Mighty Aphrodite. I notice that you didn’t start calling yourself Venus until I told you what was meant by morning star.
How do you suppose I knew what Isous meant by that?
June 20th, 2007 at 6:10 pmThe only time I ever talk to a republican like our trolls, is on this web site. None of my republican friends in my neighborhood are anything like these people.
Perhaps, but I suspect that if you did meet face to face it wouldn’t be as here. The internet is famous for such anonymous antics.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:12 pmThe trolls only want to be contrary, even if they are 100% wrong.
Like V V’s post above, and from her own posts, she admitted she just likes to argue, wrong or right.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:15 pmI did notice CAP suggests more “diversity in ownershipâ€â€¦â€¦why do Progs always cite “diversity†except when it comes to liberal institutions?? If this doesn’t prove the misunderstanding of markets, I don’t know what does….Tooodles………Comment by valiant venus
Maybe they do. No they don’t. It doesn’t prove a thing. Do you? Toodles.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:17 pmHere is how liberals win arguments: They try to take away true reasons for their failures by suggesting they are myths. Competition is a wonderful thing. Air America was funded tremendously by Soros and gang and went BK. It seems the market determined it’s failure.
This “finding” is a joke. Once again we hear the cat-calls for diversity in ownership. Who’s stopping liberal losers like Gore and Soros from competting in this market? Open up your wallet books and start your own station……oh yeah, you did, and it failed miserably. The liberal media complex is failing to report unbiased news and Fox is filling that void. All radio stations are open to callers of any persuasion; are liberals not making a good showing? Are their arguments faulty? Are they scared? Why the disparity in the free market? It’s because of the imbalance of the last 50 years. Thomas Jefferson would be proud to see voices and opinions being expressed freely and not being screened or funneled through ABC, NBC, CBS and PBS. The news media has no dialogue or feedback methods. Talk radio and the internet do.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:20 pm“Comment by Eric — June 20, 2007 @ 6:20 pm”
Boy are you a COMPLETE MORON!
Nuff said!
June 20th, 2007 at 6:22 pm“Here is how liberals win arguments: They try to take away true reasons for their failures by suggesting they are myths. Competition is a wonderful thing. Air America was funded tremendously by Soros and gang and went BK. It seems the market determined it’s failure.”
Why do the trolls keep coming on here and repeating the same debunked bullsh!t.
Air America did not fail or go bankrupt. They filed chapter 11 and were pulled out by a conservative real estate mogul in Chicago.
Learn some facts.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:27 pmRESPONSE TO #351 Eric
June 20th, 2007 at 6:29 pmWhat if the so-called free market were dominated by a handful of very wealthy and powerful oligarchs who decided NOT to advertise on Air America, thereby starving it of revenue?
Perhaps the most liberal radio program on NPR these days is The Prarie Home COmpanion, but their only major sonsor is a foreign company, Toyota. Why aren’t there any major America sponsors for the Prarie show? Why no predominantly Jewish owned business advertising on Prarie?
I’ll give you another example, Harper’s magazine for YEARS was very popular but was not drawing much in ad revenue. They consistently were very critical Israel and had a traditional progressive economic bias. Then their editor Lewis Lapham retired and suddenly there was major Jewish advertising and more Jewish contributing editors and their editorial bias has shifted to the right.
I’ll give you another example, CNN. When Ted Turner ran a truly fair and balanced CNN, he was starved for revenue. That’s back in the day when Christianne Amanpour could refer to Arab nationalists as Freedom Fighters. Remember those days. Starved for ad revenue. Then Ted Turner was out and gerald Levin was in and ad revenue skyrocheted.
THERE IS NO FREE MARKET IN A TOTALITARIAN STATE CONTROLLED BY A HANDFUL OF OLIGARCHS.
I don’t know if this has been said, I only read the first few trolls, but Air America is alive and well. It is available on XM Satellite radio all over the country. And it is still available in many major markets, like Chicago and many others. You just need to to to their website to see where. Also you can listen to it on their website. I don’t know why the trolls insist on saying it folded.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:37 pmAnd here is another very interesting example. How could Mother Jones, one of the historically most PROGRESSIVE periodicals in American letters print the horrifying smear piece it did on Rachel Corrie, the young peace activist crushed to death when Israel rolled a Caterpillar bulldozer over her? And who wrote that smear piece? A Jewish writer…
June 20th, 2007 at 6:41 pmhttp://www.counterpunch.org/nguyen09202003.html
Free market in media is a myth, no wonder Greg Palast calls living in the US living behind ‘the electronic BerlinWall’.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:42 pmSo Joker is a Bloomberg hack, shows up yesterday spewing how both parties are controlled by Islam while Bloomberg is declaring he’s an independent. I thought he was just nuts.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:45 pmSpudge: “Why do the trolls keep coming on here and repeating the same debunked bullsh!t.”
That’s a good question. It’s a cultural phenomenon, really. What’s going on is their pundits and opinion leaders continue to lie to them. And, since these liars are telling them things they really want to hear, it’s very difficult to get them to understand what’s going on.
Nevermind the fact that there is absoutely no evidence that Soros ever gave dollar one to Air America. Right wing pudits will continue to say it and their cultists will repeat it.
June 20th, 2007 at 6:55 pmRe: ErrAmerica – “I don’t know why the trolls insist on saying it folded.”
Comment by shane
Thank you, Shane! We conservatives stand corrected. The idiots of America just don’t understand the superior intellect of whiny progtards. What I meant to say was that ErrAmerica was such a commercial flop, it could not compete with the conservative competition in the marketplace of free ideas. (When they tell you how their percentages are growing, please note, they NEVER discuss the actual numbers of listeners. They would rather be waterboarded than divulge those numbers!)
Tooodles……….
June 20th, 2007 at 7:05 pm“What I meant to say was that ErrAmerica was such a commercial flop, it could not compete with the conservative competition in the marketplace of free ideas.”
This too is just another debunked troll talking point. Next.
June 20th, 2007 at 7:09 pmEach weekday, 2,570 hours and 15 minutes of conservative talk are broadcast on these stations compared to 254 hours of progressive talk — 10 times as much conservative talk as progressive talk.
Its actually much worse than this. In Chicago the progressive station, WCPT, is on a terrible AM signal. Its very difficult to tune in. The station is also only a daytime station. Which means that six months out of the year it basically has NO MORNING SHOW and NO DRIVE-TIME SHOW. And anyone who knows radio knows these are the most important hours for radio. I understand the situation is almost exactly the same in Los Angeles (and many other market).
Compare that to the neo-con station in Chicago, WLS. They have a 50,000 watt signal that can be heard all over the country.
WCPT not unexpectedly gets terrible ratings, like .2 while WLS gets a 5.0 share.
If you switched stations and put the progressive hosts on WLS and put the neo-cons on WCPT you’d see a reversal in ratings. Limbaugh would get a .2 on WCPT.
How come progressives got stuck with all the bad stations around the country? How the hell can you compete with a terrible signal? How can you compete when you don’t even have a morning show and drive time show for half the year. Those are the real questions.
June 20th, 2007 at 7:40 pmFaiz writes “Two common myths are frequently offered to explain the imbalance of talk radio: 1) the 1987 repeal of the Fairness Doctrine (which required broadcasters to devote airtime to contrasting views), and 2) simple consumer demand. ”
Read the report Faiz, and try to control your spinning. The report itself does not refer to those two explanations as “myths.” The report simply claims (without much rationale) that those two explanations are “inadequate.” The report then proceeds to offer its own set of structural explanations. The report, in other words, merely adds a different level of analysis to the phenom of right-wing radio; it does not negate the validity of the earlier two explanations.
All the explanations — market forces, structural underpinnings, etc. — appear to be playing some role. All are plausible.
June 20th, 2007 at 7:43 pmShirley – The Reds killed almost as many Jews as Hitler – you must be so proud!
June 20th, 2007 at 7:50 pmShirley – The Reds killed almost as many Jews as Hitler – you must be so proud!
Comment by valiant venus — June 20, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
Troll tactic #53 Change the subject.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:00 pmTroll tactic #47 – anyone who criticizes Israel is an anti-semite Nazi.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:03 pmTroll Tactic #17 Pretend that being anti-Muslim is not being anti-Semite. Don’t recognize the fact that Semites are a region of of different peoples and has nothing to do with one religion or another.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:07 pmSponge – You might not be aware (although with your intellectual acumen, I doubt it) that anti-Semitism has not had a history in the US as a reference to those who hate Muslims or or Middle Eastern people. The recent “expansion” (to include Arabs, Muslims, etc.) of the American definition is a direct result of the “hit” American Jews and Israelis have taken from extreme Leftists. Anti-Jew leftards, like Shirley, are paranoid little freaks who need to blame someone else for their own failures. Semantically, you are correct – BUT You don’t do yourself proud defending that.….
And since you try to equate Jews and Muslims (one an ally, one carrying out Jihad) forget what I said about your intelligence…..
June 20th, 2007 at 8:30 pmShouldn’t your concern be tax-payer funded NPR which spews its Left wing crap and rabid bashing of Whites? If tax payer funded radio doesn’t have to be fair don’t demand the private sector to be.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:30 pmVV makes my point for me. I am talking about liberal vs. conservative radio and she transposes it to college. I never said one way or the other about college kids (I made the point that thinking people in academia don’t think in black and white like she does) — but her skin is so thin and she is so paranoid that her little valiants might actually learn something other than the propaganda she spews at them with their cereal, she is carefully indoctrinating them to never think differently from her.
As I said before — she is hopeless, and heartless.
BTW, Larry from C — thanks for adding additional information to the reasons why liberal radio has such a high mountain to climb.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:31 pmValiant –
Jews are no allies to the US. They have worked to flood the country with non-Whites, stolen money to sent to Israel, committed espionage against the US, are determined to spread any sort of degeneracy they can dream up in the mainstream media.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:32 pmTHIS is the “vast right-wing conspiracy” Hillary Clinton was talking about, and what I, and many others laughed about as her being paranoid.
She was right, I was wrong, and the proof is in the pudding.
The evidence, as we know now, was a multi-year plan, devised by thinktanks around Reagan’s days, to build a permanent infrastructure of conservative spewing media/propaganda.
We see this continuance in Rove’s “100 year majority”.
This IS a conspiracy, and it’s disgusting. It started with Reagans demolishing of the Fairness Doctrine, Rush Limbaugh’s taking to the airwaves, soon after, AND, the best, most ingenious part of all, targeting uneducated Americans the most.
Why? Consider how many truck drivers there are…they have to tune into to something, at 2 am while they’re on the road. Take someone who may not have the luxury of getting an education, surfing the internet, and learning for him/herself what’s going on, and then throw in 76% conservative punditry garbage, and you have BUSH BOTS.
Hillary was right…recognize this.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:33 pmsupply and demand!!!!!!!!!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 8:33 pmAlex – Your last name wouldn’t be Jones would it? I hear they are have a summer WHITE SALE over at JC Penney – stock up on those crisp white sheets!
June 20th, 2007 at 8:36 pmTrolls are protecting their dreams. They all hope one day to be a shock jock such as Rush or Imus or Savage.
ValianttheVenusHater vomits on human rights, since, if it ain’t right, it ain’t human.
I’m sure corporate shareholders would love to learn how much of their company’s profits are ciphoned off to subsidize Rightwing Talk Radio. They aren’t even asked to endorse these Dittoheads at the AGM.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:37 pm“valiant venus,” I’m coming in at the last statement, but I equate Christians, Jews, and Muslims as ALL being the same.
You can call it anti-semitism, anti-religion, whatever you want.
It is these nutjob fanatics that will be the destruction of us all.
As proof, consider this:
Extremist muslims think that liberalism will be the downfall of society.
Insert Extremist christians (dominionists), AND you get
Dominionist christians think that liberalism will be the downfall of society.
People basing governance on any religion are scary and should be tamped down completely.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:37 pmOnce more the Progressives reveal their true selves: Equality for all, but only if it favors them.
Why don’t you go after newspapers like The Fort Collins Weekly and The Coloradoan – a Gannett newspaper, which have proven, documented histories of censorship – what you would call equality?
June 20th, 2007 at 8:37 pmLiberals had an entire network. Remember “Air America”? That thing went over like a fart in a submarine. Yes, they managed to keep themselves afloat for awhile by stealing from charities, but what’s that between friends?
June 20th, 2007 at 8:37 pmAt the risk of introducing facts, my web site maintains links to almost every FCC licensed radio station in the US that streams onto the internet, and I keep statistics of what people listen to – uncontrained by ownership limit, signal strength, station’s PD programming decisions… Here are the stats for a bit over the past year:
+———-+——–+———————————+
| fmtcount | fmtpct | formatname |
+———-+——–+———————————+
| 908158 | 59.37 | Conservative Talk |
| 115314 | 7.54 | Personal Advice | (Dr Laura)
| 106859 | 6.99 | Progressive Talk |
| 59911 | 3.92 | Politics |
| 58945 | 3.85 | Conspiracy Talk |
| 57500 | 3.76 | Financial News / Advice |
| 56147 | 3.67 | Hot Talk |
| 40442 | 2.64 | Sports Talk |
| 34631 | 2.26 | Libertarian Talk |
| 21935 | 1.43 | Interview / Current Events |
| 20144 | 1.32 | Technology Advice |
| 7915 | 0.52 | Local Talk |
| 6939 | 0.45 | Legal Issues |
| 6456 | 0.42 | Entertainment |
| 6172 | 0.40 | Medical Advice |
| 4385 | 0.29 | Local News |
| 2346 | 0.15 | House and Garden Advice |
| 2177 | 0.14 | Global News |
| 1910 | 0.12 | Car Advice |
| 1900 | 0.12 | Recreation Activities |
| 1394 | 0.09 | Happy Talk |
| 1107 | 0.07 | Music – Nostalgia |
| 819 | 0.05 | Religion |
| 731 | 0.05 | Music – Classical |
| 723 | 0.05 | Unknown |
| 656 | 0.04 | Health and Nutrition |
| 502 | 0.03 | Music – Oldies |
| 343 | 0.02 | Food |
| 273 | 0.02 | Public Service |
| 244 | 0.02 | Real Estate Advice |
| 234 | 0.02 | Pet Advice |
|[...] |
+———-+——–+———————————+
It’s very clear to me that Conservative Talk dominates radio because that is what people want to hear. I support a radio station’s Right to Choose what programs it airs – don’t you?
June 20th, 2007 at 8:38 pmThe reason why “progressive” radio does not exist is because no one wants to listen to a clow rip American for 3 hours a day. The public decides what goes on the air though the free market.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:38 pmwhy isnt the research based on content? Maybe the other talk radio is uninformative, boring and without basis? Why not look at the traditional media. There was a recent BBC review, the US should do the same.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:38 pmThe liberals control almost every media outlet – newspapers, television, Hollywood etc. – but they still cry like babies because nobody wants to listen to their fringe rantings on the radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:40 pmKS
This is typical of Stalinist liberals. They always claim they are for freedom, but when freedom doesn’t serve their agenda, they start screaming “conspiracy.”
Why don’t they come out with a finding that most tv media except Fox News is liberal? Why don’t they have a problem with that “imbalance.” Why don’t they find a monopoly there? You know why they don’t. It serves their agenda and their Stalinist views.
Does it ever occur to them that talk radio is run by market forces and people simply WANT to listen to conservative hosts? I’m sorry delusional liberals, but you can do any Stalinist crap you want. I will still listen to conservative views.
If you put your Stalinism into Talk Radio it won’t matter. You can’t control everything. We have the internet. We have the blogs. You can’t shut us up.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:40 pmTypical Hitlerian response to a populist medium.
National Socialist Party was always the left. What part of National Socialism do they disavow?
They are racist, sexist, classist.
Count me in as a Republican Conservative. There is a big tent on the right, and it doesn’t include this kind of stuff.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:40 pmFunny how this comes out a week after Trent Lott says “they” gotta do something about Conservatives butting in on how “they” are running the government.
Hmmm. I thought the government represented the people. The people don’t approve of the way they are doing their job. So now let’s change the rules to make it so the people aren’t allowed to talk publicly about what they think.
Is anyone besides me worried here?
June 20th, 2007 at 8:40 pmTypical liberals: Those who disagree with us must be silenced. Civil War II will solve the “liberal problem.”
Jessie Jacksoff
June 20th, 2007 at 8:41 pmI doubt they included NPR in this… NPR is completely liberal, oh sorry “progressive”.
What about the imbalance in TV news…
This is pretty stupid over all.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:42 pmCall the Waaaaaaaaaaambulance! Nasty conservatives dominating radio so they must be cheating. Need higher secular power to come fix it and provide balance. Waaaaaaaaaaaaah, Waaaaaaaaaaaah, Waaaaaaaaaaaah! You people sure are entertaining.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:42 pmBefore you start in on conservatives this and NPR that, try this on for your democracy: Christian radio is mostly paid for by listeners, no ads. Conservatives talk radio is paid for by advertisers. NPR is paid for by the government. Hmmm…. where is your fairness doctrine? My guess is that there are more Christians in America than liberals, just a hunch. You planning to give them the equal footing to share their views?
June 20th, 2007 at 8:43 pmyou cannot blame liberals only on this.. some “conservatives” want this too.
you can blame contrary opinions. that is what they wish to put an end to. when radio is gone, the next thing will be the internet censored, then the paper we print at home, blocking your HP from using words like, “This Government Scares Me” or “No Illegals”
June 20th, 2007 at 8:43 pmLet me see, the so-called “progressives” (left-wing, socialist elites) have NBC, ABC, CBS, and NPR. You think this “raises serious questions about whether the companies licensed to broadcast over the public radio airwaves are serving the listening needs of all Americans.” I think liberals have a lock on TV News and publicly funded broadcasting, and for years conservatives had no voice because of the Orwellian “Newspeak” emanating through the tube. Air America was a flop, because that wasn’t what the better educated, highly successful listening public wanted. I say let the market take care of itself. Let the people decide what they want to listen to by giving them the right to tune in to whomever they please. If you don’t like conservative programing, turn off your radio. You don’t have to listen to it. I don’t need you to tell me what I can and cannot listen to. This isn’t Cuba or Venezuela. The regulation (censorship) you propose flies in the face of the First Amendment, which protects free (political) speech and not the pornographers who victimize women.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:44 pmYes, because the govt. requisitioned them from private ownership. Your “logic” is circular.
And typical liberal, you instantly resort to cursing your opponent. And thinking everyone who doesn’t agree w. u is stupid.
How was it that Air America failed? Conspiracy? The only conspiracy was they stole $850,000 from the Boys and Girls Club to make payroll. Come on, opinions are built on facts. Not insults.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:44 pmI seem to recall Hugo Chavez closing the last free Radio station too. Wake up you idiots. Talk radio is the american people. No one listens to LIBERAL radio because no one agrees with what the talk show hosts are talking about. The “Fairness Doctrine” is a clear breach of the first amendment rights of the talk show hostsand for that matter the American people. In case you have not noticed the “Vast Right Wing Conspiracy” is done with both parties. This is just another attempt to push the American people around. The American people are at the point where we finally say enough and take back the power that the elite in the country abuse for their own good. You people are not Americans and can not compete with the voice of the people.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:45 pmMorons,
What drives the market isn’t ownership but listeners and revenue. Air America flunked out because in spite of your George Soros funded spinning NOBODY listens to progressive radio, and the majority of listeners ARE conservative in their viewpoints.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:45 pm“Extremist muslims think that liberalism will be the downfall of society.”
Of American society, yes. In fact the terrorists are counting on the liberals’ deep desire to take American down. Both groups share the same goal.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:45 pmKS
ya just gotta laugh. the left had radio talk, backed by big bucks. it failed. no one listened. there was no conspiracy.
the left fusses and cries about 1 conservative 24 hour tv network. it’s the no 1 network for 24 hour news. people watch it. it’s not a conspiracy.
it is typical of the left to try to legislate “fairness” because the message of the left does not attract people on it’s own merits. their agendas don’t wash with the people, so they force their agendas in court. their talk does not register with the people, so they want the courts to force the people to listen.
sounds a little Hugoish to me…..how far behind is Stalin?
June 20th, 2007 at 8:46 pmWhat a grand waste of money. They should have done a study on why liberal talk radio continues to fail. But, ooohhhhh no.
Liberal radio continues to fail, so they go after conservative talk radio.
Silencing the opposition. That seems to be the #1 priority of liberals. Nice!
June 20th, 2007 at 8:46 pmIt always comes down to $$. Conservative radio draws listeners and ratings. Listeners and ratings draw attention. Attention draws companies willing to pay for commercials. Commercials pay the bills. If the “progressive movement” can draw listeners they will get the money. If they can get the money they will get the air time. Doesn’t take a genius to figure out. Whatever happed to “laissez-faire?”
June 20th, 2007 at 8:46 pmThe problem, of course is that liberal radio programs suck and do not draw flies. Successful conservatives engage the intellect, and constuct logical arguments whereas liberal programs are generally all about personal attacks, emotion, bad taste, general depravity and sarcasm. This is not interesting listening over a long time period-and God knows that they have tried. Each new liberal “savior” fails to draw an audience and goes down in flames. So liberals, having been trounced in the marketplace of ideas want the Federal government to mandate “equal time?” What a joke. No doubt they will support that idea across all other media platforms where they dominate–yeah sure. How about giving up your monopoly in the public schools while you are at it? I’d support that!
June 20th, 2007 at 8:47 pmYour entire view of this subject is apparently from the perspective of the average ostrich, except you do not have your head in the sand, rather it is in an area where the sun never shines!
June 20th, 2007 at 8:47 pmFace the fact, real Americans want to hear about real topics. Conservatives do an excellent job at providing a real world outlook on life….
…where-in the leftwing hate squads fail to grasp that Americans do not want to listen to drug abusing gay-rights(?) pushing faggots who blame this country for everything and openly side with Jihad over US Troops….
June 20th, 2007 at 8:47 pmDon’t do it liberals. You moonbats will get your ass handed to ya. But then you “intellectuals” aren’t known for making good choices. Dumbasses.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:49 pmTalk radio is the best outlet most Americans have to voice our opinions. All this hullaballoo from the elitists and congress about “talk radio” running the country is just another way of saying, “the American people are trying to run the country, and we just can’t have that.” Progressives (i.e., liberals) won’t be happy until free speech is taken away from all who disagree with them.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:49 pmRead the fine print of what these “progressive” think tanks and pols want. The “Fairness Doctrine” would take AM radio back to where it was in the 80s and before. In other words, no conservative radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:49 pmThe media still is dominated by the far left so I do not know why this radio thing is an issue. Plus as someone already said, the far left controls NPR. Also, keep in mind the liberals have had plenty of opportunities to enter talk radio with programs such as Air America, BUT failed because there is either no demand or there alreasdy is so saturated because the vast majority of the media is liberal.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:49 pmThree letters for you…
N…..P……R
kthx
June 20th, 2007 at 8:50 pmLoL billy…. nuff said.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:51 pmN….P….R……
..Not Presenting Reality……?
June 20th, 2007 at 8:52 pm“anyone who criticizes Israel is an anti-semite Nazi”
A Nazi – not always. Anti-Semitic – yes, almost always.
“Anti-Zionism is intrinsically related to anti-Semitism for Prager. He asked why the existence of Pakistan or Panama have never been in question, although they were also carved out of previously-existing countries.
“Of all the states on Earth, every one of which was created in bloodshed, only one has its existence constantly challenged,†he said. “And then we wonder why people equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism.â€
http://www.stanforddaily.com/article/2003/5/9/pragerArguesAgainstAntizionism
ks
June 20th, 2007 at 8:52 pmThis is a long discussion and I’m not going to read everything that was posted earlier. I have one point and then I’m going back to work.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:54 pmI think conservatives are missing the point of this attempt to dust off the fairness doctrine. It’s not to silence conservatives. Progressives have not been successful in this format, and this way they can squeeze in on conservative success. Ed Shultz would love to tag along with Rush. Al Sharpton can’t wait to tag along with Hannity. Can’t wait for the Glen Beck/Chuck D program.
Ultimately if the arguement is to regulate fairness on the “public airwaves,” where does it stop, and who decides whats fair or not. It’s just a bad idea. The end of the fairness doctrine just may have saved AM radio. Consumers and the free market always make the right call, lets not screw it up.
Why does this big study even consider radio stations in LA, SF, NYC, and Phila — super liberal blue cities!
Quiz for any lib – without looking, what station is Rush on in NYC? What station is Hannity on in DC? What station is Hewitt on in LA? Can’t do it? That’s because libs don’t listen to conservative talk radio. How about this – liberals can keep their NPR, and normal people can have the conservative talk stations the survey is crying about.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:55 pmI think the Left misses Communism. They had a monopoly on radio (and TV) behind the Iron Curtain. They also massacred 100 million people to keep the “progressive thought” pure. But don’t sweat it, Putin is not exactly hiding the fact that he wants to return to the good old days of Stalin. Maybe these “progressives” can get air time on Radio Moscow.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:56 pmTHE PROBLEM IS THAT LIB’S DON’T CARE ABOUT TALK RADIO TO INFORM THEM THEY PREFER MUSIC STATIONS, WHY? THE GOVERNMENT WILL TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:56 pmThey forget that the talk radio crowd — driving to work, listening at home, housewife, blue-collar blasting the radio at a factory or construction site — are overwhelmingly conservative.
Remember Air America? No one listened and it flopped.
Also, I fail to see how Houston has 0% liberal talk radio in a large market. Clearly the methodology was skewed to get the answer they wanted. I don’t appreciate these Chavistas trying to take over the radio by any means necessary even if the people don’t want it. ABAJO CAP!!
June 20th, 2007 at 8:56 pm“The problem, of course is that liberal radio programs suck and do not draw flies.”
Actually, liberal radio does draw flies. That’s it’s core problem!
: )
KS
June 20th, 2007 at 8:57 pmThe entire mainstream media is Leftist, REGRESSIVE (what you people call “progressive” – yeah the USSR was “progressive” right?), vehemently anti-White, and generally against anything good and normal – the things that made this country ACTUALLY progressive in the TRUE sense (like landing on the moon and building the Chrysler building). But that isn’t enough for the degeneracy-peddlers – they have to try to shut up anyone who can remind people of how this country was once great before these idiots destroyed it.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:57 pmYou Liberal Cowards never stop your corrupt attempt to take over America! The Reason Talk Radio is so popular with conservative America. Every word a liberal speaks is a lie or political motivated. Rush and Hannity scare liberals so they want to shut them down. Because they speak the truth, They Educate the population, And that scares liberals. They know they can’t compete with someone with talent and knowledge. The more you try to silence the right! the more you will Fail. We are all smarter than you think! Take back America!!!!!!
Proud American
June 20th, 2007 at 8:58 pmSo, in reading the responses I notice the following:
Those with liberal views resort to name-caling first, loudest and in the most hurtful ways.
Why is it they can’t voice an opinion or refute a position without calling someone else names?
Oh — and conservative viewpoints that make sense? Neal Bortz for one.
Finally — why is that the writer of this article chooses to use the terms “conservative” and “progressive” (instead of Liberal)?
Air America has been in the bottom of the bucket and out of money for years now. If this format was so enlightening and what the people wanted to hear then it would have taken off by now. Al Franken is stupid and so are the rest of the far left.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:58 pmLibs are all about tolerance (and the 1st Amendment) until the time comes to tolerate opposing views. Then the personal attacks start, the language gets vile, and idiotic talk of a “fairness doctrine” begins. Until they can compete in the arena of ideas, they’ll be in the same shape on the talk radio waves. Liberals have been talking the same tired junk for 40 years. Come up with something new boys and girls.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:59 pmGood call lee. A couple dudes, called Adam Smith and Benjamin Franklin, promoted this crazy idea of laizze-faire. Its kind of what instigated the “no taxation without representation” gig. “The basic idea is that less government interference in private economic decisions such as pricing, production, consumption, and distribution of goods and services makes for a better (more efficient) economy.” (Wikipedia) The radio waves are a business. If two of our most respected forefathers based this nation on that idea it might be worth considering.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:59 pmVV, you’ll have to explain this to quote to me. First, there is a long tradition of anti-semitism in America. Perhaps you’ve heard of the S.S. St Louis, Gentleman’s Agreement, and university quotas?
Christians consider both Jews and Muslims to be pernicious heretics who will burn in the deepest ring of Hell. I’d say that gives them the right to be called anti-semites by both these Middle Eastern peoples.
America’s Left was predominately lead by Jewish Communists and Socialists. One should not confuse the Jewish American Left with the Jewish American Right. Yitzak Rabin once refered to the latter as “scumbags”.
And VV, why are you trying to derail this thread from the topic of Right Wing Talk Radio? Bigotry is the name of the game in Talk Radio. The Redneck Yahoos who proffer crackerjack wisdom to the Dittoheads have no problem denigrating Jews, Muslims, African Americans, Asians, the French, Hispanics, and Native Americans.
The fundamental premise of Rightwing Talk Radio is that the Inner Circle is All-knowing and All-powerful: that the Poor are criminals, the Rich are saints, Might is right, and Money is salvation. These clowns believe in Noble Lies and Necessary Illusions: Not a word they say is honest or sincere.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:00 pmyou libs own the tv networks, most newspapers, and hollywood. You turn young skulls full of mush into mind-numbed robots from grade level through college, and now you want radio. You guys simply can’t compete in the arena of ideas so now you want the govt. to step in and force your idiotic ideas on us. you are all pathetic little cry babies.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:00 pmWhat about the liberal dominance in television? I assume you want that “corrected” as well.
The reason conservatives dominate talk radio is because their ideas are better, the shows are better presented and produced and they win in the only competition that really matters .. ratings.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:00 pmI used to get real excited about political views and disagreements, until I realized I was wasting my life following passionately people who would sell my eyes out of my skull for one more vote or one more dollar. Whores who are playing you all for fools.
Read over these comments and look at the absolute hatred of other Americans that is going on here.
No Tolerance for “Diversity” of opinion or view. Hows that for progress?
It is almost laughable that you would find all this vitriol on a web site whose name contains “Think” and “Progress” on the same line.
I hate to use such a cliche,,, but step away from the professional hating that you excuse by calling it politics, and get yourself a life.
Get a dog, pay attention to your family, get a girl/boy friend, and enjoy the rest of your relatively short ass life on this planet.
Clint
June 20th, 2007 at 9:00 pmAny guess why they didn’t also do a study on newspapers or television news stations? Oh yeah…..right.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:01 pmProve it Mike, links, sources … you know the form….
June 20th, 2007 at 9:01 pmLast time I checked, it was still legal to be a conservative. These guys want to suppress free speech…yeah, that’s real “progressive” of them, thanks. Their real agenda is to crush dissent and promote liberal propaganda and misery that no one wants to listsen to in the first place. The so-called “fairness doctrine” is un-American and should be absolutely opposed by all those who want freedom. If these guys want to complain about media ownership, then why don’t their liberal friends just go buy some radio stations. It’s called free market capitalism. Get a clue.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:01 pmHey Liberals, Conservatives will trade you our talk radio dominance for your dominance of newspaper journalism , major broadcast and cable netwok TV, local TV , Hollywood and Academia (K thru the university level).
Deal?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:01 pmLiberals are under the impression that conservatives develope their view points because they’re exposed to nothing but Rush or Hannity on that drive home from work. It couldn’t possibly be that we had those views all along and enjoy listening to opinions that correlate with our own. They think if you forcefully implant equal amounts liberal views on the radio, instead of simply turning it off, we’ll all go out and buy Prius’s and campaign for Dennis Kucinich eventually. It’s how they often insult the intelligence of groups they are trying to win over by insinuating they are just mindless, malleable sheep. Notice which point of view in these responses uses the most immature profanity in their posts? That comes from the rage they feel because they are so much smarter than the rest of us and we just don’t get it.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:02 pmLook, guys, it’s not the government’s job to tell radio, TV, or any other kind of programmer what to put on his or her station. The fact is, liberal talk radio just plain fails. Not because people don’t listen, but because NOT VERY MANY people listen. Just look at the former “Air America” station in Columbus, Ohio. The ratings were in the tank, and sponsors were jumping ship because virtually nobody heard their ads. No that the format has “gone conservative,” the ratings are up and the advertisers are back. It’s just capitalism at work. But then again, that’s the problem, isn’t it?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:02 pmThe scarey thing is that you have people out there supporting this stuff. Regulate Regulate Regulate. This is a war of ideas and the liberal media is losing. The only thing they can think to do is to limit the freedom of speech and press. The constitution is very inconvenient for the psycho left.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:02 pmand another thing — global warming is not caused by burning oil. Its just as likely that we humans, who have doubled in number over the past 100 years, all with temperatures above 98 degrees are as much of a reason for the warming. Liberals, who are anti-capitalist and therefore communists, would probably advocate the decimation of entire populations if they get their hands on this news.
in actuality, increased solar activity is the main cause for global warming, after all, Mars is warming at the same rate and we haven’t burned a thing there yet.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmWell said.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmA “progressive” group puts out a report criticizing the number of conservative radio programs… is it any wonder they call for “diversification” of programming?
Liberals cannot compete in the arena of ideas… if they could, their actually would be more liberal talk shows… with the exception of NPR (and public funding), nothing else has really succeeded… I wonder why? Maybe it’s because peeople don’t want to listen to how bad and evil they are and that only the government can make it better… people want hope and self-reliance, a common theme in “conservative talk radio.
Oh, and “progressive” is just a liberal in sheeps clothing… a rose by any other name is still a rose.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmI all for it if we do the same with print and TV media. Are the liberals up for this? I do not think so. Why? Because they are not complaining about the print or TV media. It suits their purpose and that is why they are only up for this. Radio, just like other media, is derived from listeners (or subscribers) and if the numbers are there, the program will survive. I challenge anyone to give me hard facts (actual program name, numbers, etc.) to prove this ridiculous point of view. Remember the FCC regulates the so called liberal TV outlets that are overwhelming liberal in their point of view; therefore, this conspiracy by the conservatives to control the radio, is a clear example of liberals wanting to silence free speech.
P.S. Why is it that at college campuses the liberals are the one’s getting violent when they hear another point of view? Why are the conservatives calm?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmExcept for the internet, talk radio is almost the only forum left for conservatives and that is why it has done so well. We listen. Main stream media is so far left they don’t realize where the center is. PBS is the same. Most print media is the same. If the left had its way, the right will only be allowed tom-toms to communicate their message. We will find a way for our voice to be heard one way or another until free speech is denied to us. Oh and by the way is “liberal” now so dirty a word that you changed your name to – Progressive? I am proud to be a conservative and everything it stands for – liberty, individualism, pride in accomplishment, self reliance, etc. I never want to be a ward of the state or dependent on others. Get a grip left. Your message is rotten, decayed, full of helplessness and hopelessness all cloaked in a “bleeding heart”mentality.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmI got to this story from drudge report, and the first thing that jumps out at me is the twisting of language terms. Specifically, I note the use of the terms “conservative” and “right-wing”, which are fair descriptors of radio hosts like rush limbaugh, but instead of “left wing” and “liberal”, which are fair descriptors of air-america types, the term “progressive” is used which isnt really accurate. Not all leftist, liberal positions are “progressive”, nor are all conservative, right-wing positions “regressive” ( which is implied by the use of the more favorable “progressive” applying only to leftist positions. ) I can think of quite a few contrasts between left-wingers and right-wingers that would suggest exactly the reverse. Example 1: Education. Think of all of the millions of poor, inner-city kids who get short-changed and denied fair opportunities by pathetic, miserable, failed public school-systems. The libs, the leftists, the beaurocrats, and the teacher’s unions are all that stands between those kids and a voucher-based system where parents have a choice where to spend their own tax dollars among schools who COMPETE for the PRIVELEDGE of educating our kids. Conservatives want reform, opportunity, fairness,and accountability. The so-called progressives resist reform and progress at the expense of kids. Example 2… Housing. Libs created the urban blight of public housing projects. Conservatives changed that disaster by channeling funds into loans for low-income home OWNERSHIP, where people have a stake in their own future. Again- a case of “progressive” conservative thinking accomplishong results where the libs cling to the failures of big government. Conservatives took the failed welfare state of the 70’s and broke the multi-generational cycle of reliance and poverty by setting limits on welfare, and by forcing people off the welfare roles into the workplace,therebye improving the lives of millions of children whose parents work now, instead of live on the dole. Again, conservative progress and reform of regressive liberal failures. Republicans want social security reform, investment, and personal involvement in personal retirement accounts, which could save social security with better returns on peopl’s money. Libs want to stick to the same failed system that cannot meet it’s obligations to our seniors because all the money went into the general funad and got spent. The current social security system is nothing but a liberal ponzi-scheme. Again, conservatives want reform and progress, libs are regressive and resist change. I could go on and on. Liberals do NOT deserve the title of “progressive”. Maybe once upon a time it was true, but we have seen the disaterous consequences of big government, high-taxes, and income re-distribution, and social engineering. It’s failed everywhere in the world it’s been tried. Conservatives ARE progressives now. So let’s get the terms straight. As for the imbalance between conservative an LIBERAL ( not progressive ) talk radio, it’s all about economics. The radiostations make their money with advertising. They sell the most advertising by airing programming that the people want to listen to. Nobody really wants to listen to a bunch of liberal crap, which is why air-america goes bankrupt, and people like Rush Limbaugh etc. have the ratings, and the advertisers. It’s that simple. Liberals dont like the fact that people dont choose to listen to them as much as conservatives, so they try to force it down people’s throats unwilllingly by advocating forced “fairness” of viewpoint expression. Libs- if you cant compete in the fair marketplace of ideas with the crap you spew, maybe you should try getting some new ideas. You cant force people to listen to you. And quit trying to change the argument by changing the terms. Liberals are “progressives” like Al Gore’s tax increases were ” investments in the infrastructure”. Stop insulting our intelligence. You cant change what something is by changing what you call it.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmWow, judging from the most recent comments, some Righties feel awfully threatened by the concept of equal time. If it hadn’t been for Reagan’s ignoring the Fairness doctrine, Rush would be cleaning toilets in some fifth-tier station. He has yet to have on anyone not prescreened, or who he will not silence by cutting their mike, if the truth gets too uncomfortable. The Big media are corporate-dominated, you bunkered fools. Only a rats-in-the-corncrib-crazy conservative would hold to the fiction of “liberal media,” you freakish dinosaurs.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmSpudge Boy, you’re a dumb ass who ought to drop out of whatever college was stupid enough to take you.
Real news doesn’t make a profit? Where does that proverb come from?
According to your theory, then, anything that has horrible ratings may be “real news,” and whatever makes a profit must be false. Nice syllogism.
Did it ever occur to you that people don’t listen to the “progressive” stations because they detect that what they’re hearing sounds false, or at least one-sided? Adults hate being lied to.
You work with newspapers, TV, and radio? Figures.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pmumm i thinks its more about what brings in the money & the public obviously perfers conservative radio over (progressive radio) aka liberal radio. if this wasnt the case than conservative radio wouldnt be number 1 would it???? its about public demand not evil conservatives buying up radio.
this is just another attempt by the left to deminish free speech because conservative radio proves them wrong all the time. the left only knows how to bitch about everything. thier ideas?? well they never really come up with anything. this is why nobody listens to thier radio shows, to be about as blunt as possible they really are a waste of air time.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:04 pmHey !! Spoodge_Boy!! Try taking that thing our of your mouth before you speak.
The truth is that liberals are the true fascists in America. If the ‘free’ market doesn’t work in your favor then you want a government mandate. So you work in the media… BFD… So how does that must make you an expert on free markets… My God you are ignorant !!!
It seems that most of names they call the conservatives are really applicable to themselves. The dems are the real fascists and party of greed.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:04 pmAfter 9/11 happened, I began listening to the radio again. One day while driving the car, I was tired of the non-stop coverage of the 9/11 attack, and I changed the station. The new station played the same program, exactly. The next button, the same thing happened. All the stations were playing the same broadcast. That is when I found out about Clear Channel, that they’d bought most of the radio stations in my town. It was pretty stunning.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:04 pmI think a larger point is missed here, if the Liberal talkshows could make it in the markets across the country there would be no issue. There is no optimism in Liberal talk radio, there is however, anger, divisivness, the over all assumption that America needs to be ashamed of who she is….. who wants to listen to that?!
Nickel
June 20th, 2007 at 9:05 pmThere’s a simple concept in play here: it’s called the free market.
When you have a product people want, they consume it, or in this case, listen to it. When you have a product people do not want, they leave it alone, or tune to another station. That’s why Limbaugh, Hannity, et. al., have been wildly successful, and Al Franken, Randi Rhodes and Air America were last seen southbound in the porcelain alter (that’s a toilet, for those of you in San Francisco). So then does this mean that conservative voices will be heard in equal amounts on NPR, PBS and CNN? Maybe when pigs fly and donkeys sing opera it will happen, but not before then.
To try to control what people say and think, no matter how much you may disagree, is censorship, and unconstitutional (you remember that pesky 1st amendment thing). Comrades Lenin and Stalin were fans of restricted, government controlled speech. Chairman Mao was in favor of political correctness for the good of the Party. So when you advocate reinstating the “Fairness Doctrine”, you have started down a slippery slope towards totalinarianism.
People have the right to speak their mind. What people do not have is the right to make anyone listen to a certain viewpoint. Intelligent people can decide to listen to both if the choose and make up their own mind in a fair and balanced society.
There are two sides to every story, and somewhere in the middle lies the truth.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:05 pmWho is John Galt?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:05 pmWhat the fukc, 75% of the past 40 posts look like they have been pre-fabricated and pasted by the same person!!!!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:05 pmConservatives own the entire news media and they can’t hanlde someone with a different opinion so they stump them out. Look at olbermann people want him off the air eve tho he’s the highest rated program on MSgop.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:05 pmDrudge linked to this site so all the slopheaded morons who get all their “Facts” from Rush are posting.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:06 pmIf there was a problem with too much conservative talk radio, then Air America would not have been such a boondoggle to try to run. The problem is is that liberal drivle does not sell…advertisers don’t want to pay for it. As they already have the major networks as their mouthpieces, then I don’t see the problem….if you don’t like what talk radio is saying, turn it off…or get satellite radio that offers leftists stations to listen too.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:06 pm“Oh, and “progressive†is just a liberal in sheeps clothing… a rose by any other name is still a rose.”
Comment by Greg
So what? It’s better than being a traitorous conservative. I laugh at how Bush has exposed conservatism for the sham it always was. And you boneheads stood by and cheered as he did it. Have fun in the political wilderness, you frauds …
June 20th, 2007 at 9:06 pmWhat the fukc, make that the past 50 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:06 pmMaybe that is because the audience is “buying the message”. Let us face it—most of the people are conservative.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:07 pmtypical – leftists always need to implement commie-like solutions, can’t compete use the government to shut down what most people want. when will these goddamn socialists and communists realize they are hated by the free and loathed by capitalists.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:07 pmMost of the audience is conservative.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:08 pmWow. Spudge Boy’s rational, reasoned, and eloquently stated posts have really got me taking his point of view seriously. Did someone skip their anger management class this week?
As to your comment on anti-Semitism. True. The issue is really that the word itself is a bit of double speak. An attempt to disguise anti-Jewish actions as targeting a race, rather than a religion. And naming things creatively is an extremely old tactic. Try these on for size: Partial Birth Abortion. Pretty horrific, no? Death Tax. Ouch. They’re even taxing dead people! ZOMG!
Another similar tactic is lumping an observation along with a theory and then pretending that anyone doubting the theory is also doubting the actual observation. Global Warming is a good example. Evolution is another.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:08 pmOK, Lets have equal time on Print and TV Media…… What is that liberal silence? Yes, they are ignoring the Print and TV Media WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:08 pm“I think a larger point is missed here, ”
Comment by Nickel
How could we miss it? It’s right on your freakin’ forehead …
June 20th, 2007 at 9:08 pmIf Ted Turner and Les Moonves are conservatives, than I am a product of immaculate conception!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:08 pmBarfly,
June 20th, 2007 at 9:08 pmwe conservatives are not”threaten” by anything. You “progressives” own the patent for “paranoia”. We just get frustrated sometimes that we can’t have an intelligent conversation with you on the left without you name calling after 30 seconds. The definition of a “racist, bigot, homophobe, and Nazi” is a conservative winning an argument with a liberal. It’s like talking to children. Not threatened, just exhausted sometimes.
That’s all.
People have the right to speak their mind. What people do not have is the right to make anyone listen to a certain viewpoint. Intelligent people can decide to listen to both if the choose and make up their own mind in a fair and balanced society.
There are two sides to every story, and somewhere in the middle lies the truth.
>> I could not agree more. The rights we have in this country are so important to who we are as a nation. When we start taking away the very rights that make us, intelligent people then we are in BIG BIG trouble. Many times by listening to the other side so to speak it makes me affirm my beliefs even more.
Nickel
June 20th, 2007 at 9:09 pmWow, judging from the most recent comments, some Righties feel awfully threatened by the concept of equal time. If it hadn’t been for Reagan’s ignoring the Fairness doctrine, Rush would be cleaning toilets in some fifth-tier station. He has yet to have on anyone not prescreened, or who he will not silence by cutting their mike, if the truth gets too uncomfortable. The Big media are corporate-dominated, you bunkered fools. Only a rats-in-the-corncrib-crazy conservative would hold to the fiction of “liberal media,†you freakish dinosaurs.
What did I tel lyou about calling others names barfly?
Just can’t compete can you? If reagan had gone along with the so-called fairness doctrine, we’d be speaking russian or chinese by now.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:09 pmWho said President Bush was a conservative, Barfly?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:09 pmWhen Air America was launched, the rest of the media did everything they could to promote it and publicize it. I failed miserably even with all the hype, none of which got Limbaugh, Hannity, Boortz, Ingraham, Levin et al where they are. If liberals want to succeed in talk radio, they have to have a message that is more than NPR with commercials hosted by angry, hateful, arrogant handwringing amateur cranks.
In the HBO documentary “Left of the Dial,” it was obvious AA would fail–humorless, snide and juvenile commetary beneath the average college sophomore delivered by people who (other than Rhodes) had no experience in radio, and little to say other than “Bush is stupid.” OK, Al Franken & Janeane Garofolo, we understand you hate President Bush and the GOP and you’re against everything they stand for–tell us what you’re FOR. Screamin’ Howie Dean’s campaign couldn’t sustain that level of hate by a loud amateur, and neither could AA. Liberal talk radio failed because there is no mass audience that “hates” people of other political persuasions, and it will always fail in a free market.
That liberal views must be forced on the audience says volumes ( and nothing good) about liberals, who give lip service only to “tolerance and diversity,” but who prove themselves intolerant of any viewpoint that challenges them.
Hugo Chavez did what US liberals wish they could, and certainly would if they could.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:09 pmThis is BullS%^…. stop whining liberals. …. Nobody wants to listen to your whining and your radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:09 pmYes, they are ignoring the Print and TV Media WHY?
Comment by Marvin — June 20,
Because corporate media love those Bush tax cuts …
June 20th, 2007 at 9:09 pmI find it funny that the cons still think all the news media except fox news of course is liberal. They of course never give any proof, its just something they heard on rush.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:10 pmHint to Prog programming “gurus†– shrill, whiny progressivism doesn’t sell. Ever listen to Democracy NOW! or another popular snoozecast, Pacifica Radio??? Comment by valiant venus — June 20, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
As opposed to the shrill, whiny hateful conservatism that Ann C*nter, and Rush F*t*ss, Bill O’Silly – and of course YOU – ST*PID C*NT – spew on radio, TV and the blogs? You f*ckers are the whiny-ist st*pidest little c*nts around – how *funny* – c*nt that all you can do is see the shrill in others! What can we expect, considering what a hateful little MySpace 24 year old Anorexic c*nt?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:10 pmAre you kidding with this fascist nonsense? When you refer to free press do you mean that only the liberal press should be free? If people don’t like conservative radio they can always turn to NPR. They’re federally funded and completely liberal. Or they can turn to ABC, CBS, or NBC News or CNN and MSNBC. Why don’t you do the same study on network news and call for the regulation of the liberal network news media. You people are such hypocrites. You call yourself progressive? You’re no different than the Nazis and Fascists that brainwashed people into believing what they wanted. You’re pathetic!!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:10 pmIf they tried the same report for television, they’d make themselves look like fools.
http://www.hardcorepolitics.com
June 20th, 2007 at 9:10 pmYou communists (not progressives) are the biggest hypocrites of all. There is something here called free speech and the government has no right to regulate free speech on the radio. There is also this great economic system we have here called capitalism where the market decides what they want.
Talk radio is dominated by conservatives because a majority of americans are center/right thinkers and it is what they listen to. Guys like Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Beck, etc would not be on the air if they didn’t generate ratings. Even people that hate them tune in every day just to get their blood pressure raised. Some of those people convert and see the light and become conservatives.
If you want fairness buy radio stations and radio shows and compete rather than cry like a bunch of whiny babies about it. Air America tried it but they found out nobody wanted to listen to their drivel as they bankrupted themselves and bounced check after check.
The only reason talk radio is getting this level of attention is because they called out Bush / McCain / and Kennedy on their horrible illegal alien amnesty bill. Both the sellout Republicans and the Communist party of America have turned their sights on talk radio to silence it so they can push their bill that is against the will of a majority of americans.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:10 pmThis study is a thinly veiled attempt to counter the popularity of conservative talk through regulation or legislation. “If we can’t win then we’ll make it illegal”
June 20th, 2007 at 9:10 pmInteresting how liberals are the first to cry bias, racism, etc.when they don’t get their way.
So, why didn’t the study include the “Main stream media” bias? Oh, that’s ok because it’s a liberal bias!
I love it that liberals get so child like in their arguments, and they want to run the country? LOL
June 20th, 2007 at 9:11 pmSo what? It’s better than being a traitorous conservative. I laugh at how Bush has exposed conservatism for the sham it always was. And you boneheads stood by and cheered as he did it. Have fun in the political wilderness, you frauds …
Comment by barfly
Thanks for the laugh barfly…
June 20th, 2007 at 9:11 pmProgressive? You farging dolts!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:11 pmHOORAY! Let’s have more government intervention in our lives! You know… I’ve noticed that an overwhelming majority of university professors are “progressive.” We need to enact legislation that calls for an equal number of “conservative” professors. Strictly in the name of fairness, of course… Then we can move on to journalists!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:11 pmWho said President Bush was a conservative, Barfly?
Comment by John W
Nice try.
Now, suddenly he’s NOT conservative? That’s because conservatism was and is a sham – and you obviously swallowed it like creamed style corn. Too bad you’re now having buyer’s remorse …
June 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pmYou can see my forehead? Wow you are good. I bet you noticed its not as fat as yours.
Nickel
June 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pm“Oh, and “progressive†is just a liberal in sheeps clothing… a rose by any other name is still a rose.â€
Comment by Greg
Incorrect …. actually a “progressive†is a socialist in sheeps clothing
June 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pmI thought liberals believed in free speech; oh only if it’s on the left, hypocrites.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pmFirst of all the writers of the article need to cut the crap and say what they mean. Progressive is a synonym for liberalism. It’s a snooty word that assume conservatives aren’t progressive. If it were not for conservatives, the black man would be still saying yes mastah, don’t beat me mastah!!!
The theology of progessiveness to victimize not empower. Clarence Thomas, and Condoleeza Rice are Uncle Toms because they achieved without being victims while the extortionist Jesse Jackson parlayed Martin Luther King’s assassination into international fame.
Liberal talk radio is like trying to make lemonade out of toilet water. The only liberal talk show host I’ve found entertaining is Alan Colmes. I tried listening to Ed Schultz, The crew of Air-head America. It takes a lot of drugs, medicated and otherwise to put up with liberal talk radio.
Does this “fairness doctrine” extend to television, Hollywierd and major news media?
One thing the liberals don’t realize about free speech is people have the right not to listen to it. Unless you are going to force the government to enact legislation to force people to listen to liberal radio, you still won’t have an audience. Air America can’t even buy listeners.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pmWow, I love it when liberals get nasty….
June 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pmAs opposed to the shrill, whiny hateful conservatism that Ann C*nter, and Rush F*t*ss, Bill O’Silly – and of course YOU – ST*PID C*NT – spew on radio, TV and the blogs? You f*ckers are the whiny-ist st*pidest little c*nts around – how *funny* – c*nt that all you can do is see the shrill in others! What can we expect, considering what a hateful little MySpace 24 year old Anorexic c*nt?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
Wow, that was intelligent… nice to see your Ivy League education paying off for you…
June 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pmHey Barf fly, ever had to meet a payroll?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pmLiberals could not hold a person with a.d.d. attention long enough to spew their hate. Heck Cnn, MSNBC, CPAN, PBS, ABC, NBC, CBS and the list goes on.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pmoh puuhhleeease BARFLY -
You’re inferring that its conservatives that have all the money. What an ignorant assumption. and you ignored the point made.
Liberals own and control the print media TV and most of the education institutions escept for FoxNews.
Why isn’t there a move afoot to require conservative viewpoints at colleges, Hollywood and in newspapers?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pmWhere on earth did Crystalized get the idea that Ben Franklin promoted Laissez-faire economics? This is why we need balanced and fair talk radio. The current debate in America is so very one-sided and hopelessly ill-informed.
Ben Franklin wrote an essay titled A Modest Enquiry Into The Nature and Necessity of a Paper-Currency. In this essay, Franklin proposes many of the same principles that Keynes would advocate in the 1930s. Neo-cons and Free Marketeers looking to Franklin for a patron saint will be sadly disappointed.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pm“It always comes down to $$. Conservative radio draws listeners and ratings.”
Fried baloney. If rightwing radio had to offer equal time, it would sink like a stone. That’s what you sheep are afraid of.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pmOkay, following the logic of your argument, then what do we do with TV? ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN are unabashedly pro-liberal, and all we conservatives have is FOX news channel!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pmI would like to apply for the job deciding who can own radio stations and what they are allowed to broadcast. Where do I apply?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:14 pmTypical liberal — call suppressing speech the center for the “free press.”
The real question ought to be why the government is using tax dollars to support national public radio.
Can NPR and let the people decide what they want to listen to.
Perhaps its that the people already know that such as the Center for . . . Free Press” is simply a lot of BS.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:14 pmSomeone show me undisputed proof of this lack of equal air time. Anyone can spend the money to have a radio station.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:14 pmwhat is it about libs and censorship?……didnt every dem best friend, hugo, just take over radio in his little utopian dictatorship?
i guess if you cant win in the arena of ideas, you have to resort to other means of installing your doctrine…
June 20th, 2007 at 9:14 pmLet’s go back 20 years ago…1985
AM radio was dying a slow death of “swap shops” and scratchy country music. Somebody came a long and said, “Hey got this guy out of Sacramento, says a lot of provocative stuff, but he’s conservative and since this is the Era of Reagan, probably get a lot of listeners…and he’s kind of funny”.
The AM guys scrambling for some profits said, sure we’ll try it. And the “EIB Network” born with ol’ Rush at its head. The imitators followed afterwards….AFTER Rush had taken on the sacred cows of liberals, a 40 year rule of Democrats in Congress, and general silliness of left-wingers from the feminists to the animal rights crowd.
Then with Clinton, Rush led the way for galvinizing the Right and getting Clinton’s agenda de-railed. And helped get Gingrich put on the map by expanding on the House Bank Scandal and House Post Office Scandal.
Suddenly a “big fat idiot” bloviating on AM radio had POLITICAL POWER. First, an attempt was made to mock him or treat him as irrelevant. Then all out assaults by guys like Al Franken. Clinton tries to link “hate radio” to the OK City Bombing and it bombed.
Finally, they say “Oh, I know, we’ll start our own network of ‘progressives’”….so they did. And six months into it, ratings were in the toilet outside of Berkeley and Manhatten (and not that great in Manhatten!).
So, what’s left? Simple, get Congress to change the law or get Hillary in and get a Democratic FCC to “reintroduce” the Fairness Doctrine….
Reason?….everything else has failed, only thing left is governmental restriction. So who cares if they have to sell their souls (or principles) on free speech and who cares if it shows they CAN’T compete on ideas and entertainment….it’s about silencing the opposition who’s “too powerful” in the minds of those who think they rightfully own the airwaves.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:14 pmIf one goes back and review all of the above posts, one will find that the majority of the childish name calling is offered by the liberal, socialist, losers. That’s the kind of message that liberal talk spews constantly. It doesn’t make good radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:14 pmIt’s really very simple: Talk radio is the medium that most accomodates one’s desire to be entertained while performing another task. Reading and watching television demand one’s full attention, but it’s perfectly possible to listen to the radio while doing something else; say, working for a living. And thus, talk radio responds most to the listening habits of people with jobs. And people with jobs (unlike the academics and liberal pols who mandate taxpayer funding of NPR, the last outpost of Maoism on the planet) like to listen to people who say that you can take care of yourself, that the government ought to stop taxing you at outrageous levels, that the government ought to limit its activities to those enumerated in the Constitution, etc. When you put liberals on talk radio, you lose listernship because people don’t want to listen to those humorless twits describe the latest program designed to separate you from your cash to assuage their own guilt. I don’t feel guilt because I *work* for what I have; why *do* Al Franken and Jeanine Garofolo (sp?) feel so guilty? Um, because they are talentless boobs who’ve gotten where they are by spouting the proper line?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:14 pmProgressive is just another name for bigger government intrusion. The reason Air America didn’t fly was, nobody was listening, so now we have to have the government force us to listen. Communism didn’t fail it just move over here, All that is left is calling government bureaucrats, Comrade.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:15 pmThis study is sssooo biased, and so wrong. The reason that Conservatives listen to the radio is because THE LIBERAL MEDIA RUNS ALL OF THE TELEVISION STATIONS AND NEWSPAPERS.!!!! Radio is the only place that we can hear OUR VIEWS. Funny how this piece of crap organization doesn’t seem to see anything wrong with the LIBERAL BIAS of all of the LIBERAL TELEVISION stations and LIBERAL NEWSPAPERS. This study is a
June 20th, 2007 at 9:15 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:15 pm“If we can’t win then we’ll make it illegalâ€
Interesting how liberals are the first to cry bias, racism, etc.when they don’t get their way.
So, why didn’t the study include the “Main stream media†bias? Oh, that’s ok because it’s a liberal bias!
Comment by James Marr
So, in WingnutWorld, airing opposing points of view is making it illegal? You might want to check the dictionary definition …
June 20th, 2007 at 9:15 pmMy God. They want affirmaive action for left-wing talk show hosts!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:16 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:16 pmConservatism isnt a sham, its just that some are better at it than others.
Nickel
June 20th, 2007 at 9:16 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:16 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV.
Comment by Marvin
Equal time in print and TV — proved you wrong, bonehead.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:16 pmDo you remember how AM radio used to be when the “fairness doctrine” was in effect barfly?
Dull.
No ratings.
Bring it back and stations will change formats, which is what the liberal wussies want.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:16 pmI guess the liberals are taking a page out of the nazi’s handbook. tell the big lie often and loud and it will eventually be true. I guess they do not understand that stations program what people want to hear, If they jack with this then I say go to Sirius! Stern is great there and you can listen to what you want.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:16 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:17 pmC”MON BARFLY — keep up!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:17 pmhttp://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_C_roseanne20.3bf846c.html
Wow, these articles are posted about an inch apart at ‘The Drudge Report’. Neat.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:17 pmOne thing that I have observed over these past many years is that Liberals have great difficulty make intelligent comments and/or arguments so they very frequently resort to nasty and/or foul inputs.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:17 pmCould it be “Liberal” talk radio has only one topic and focus? Bush hatred.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:17 pmLiberal talk radio is the most depressing and hateful no wonder it fails.
Try getting a product people want to hear.
So. Conservatives can’t handle people with differing opinions. And yet when they show up to argue on this site, you dismiss them with some name calling. It would appear that some of the people posting here as “progressives” are unhappy to have dissenting voices. How ironic.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:17 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:17 pmLibs dominate network television…conservatives dominate talk radio…sounds balanced to me. I say if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:17 pm“I find it funny that the cons still think all the news media except fox news of course is liberal. They of course never give any proof, its just something they heard on rush.”
You need to read Bernard Goldberg’s Bias & Arrogance, about 750 pages of documented and well argued examples in books by a guy who has no problem telling his readers he is a liberal at heart, and who speaks from 30 years of experience as a reporter for CBS News.
But what would a guy with 30 years experience as a reporter for CBS News know, right?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:17 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:17 pmI currently program a talk radio station. Over the years, we’ve aired a number of liberal programs from Alan Colmes, Schultz, Cuomo, etc. They all had terrible ratings despite our best efforts to promote them.
It’s about demographics. Most of the people listening to AM radio in the early 90’s when the talk format exploded were white, male, and older. 80% of the white, male, older population was already conservative…they’re already listening to AM, they didn’t have to go far to hear their point of view.
Imagine if Starbucks started serving hamburgers. Most of the people going to Starbucks aren’t looking for hamburgers, they want coffee. Apply the same flawed analogy for why liberals don’t work on AM and apply it to Starbucks selling hamburgers and you’d assume that no one in this country like hamburgers.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:18 pmYou want to see what “Progressive” fairness looks like? Up close and personal? Try advocating equal time in a public school curriculum to teach critical thinking in the subject of evolution. Or try to suggest that the “hate America” history curriculum be balanced-or suggest an absinence course be added to the sex ed class. Try advocating real school choice. These people will do damn near anything to hold on to their positions of power and to exclude all competing views. They act like junk yard dogs when they have it. They are all for the first amendment-right up until they gain control. Then they all become little Stalins and Hitlers. This is the real truth about 21st century liberalism.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:18 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:18 pmyawn…………..i seriously can’t see how you can’t see how fascist this is. its the market – you tried, you failed, and now your bitching. bring on the “fairness” doctrine, and watch a real revolution. am radio will give anyone a shot who brings ratings, but you haven’t found a personality yet. anyway, good luck.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:18 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:19 pmI have to say that I think it is sad that they (Liberals) want to legislate talk radio only because those who are sharing ideas in talk radio are gaining the largest audience. Even the liberals money cant buy the audience that Talk Radio is reaching. THAT IS AMAZING.
I personally am tired of their whinning.
Nickel
June 20th, 2007 at 9:19 pmLiberals have great difficulty make intelligent
June 20th, 2007 at 9:19 pmcomments and/or arguments so they very
frequently resort to nasty and/or foul inputs.
The global Jewish conspriacy led by neocons is cause of terror. The neocons and hidden Jews such as Murdach and Limbaugh should be limited by your government. This would be a step towards a peacefull world. Perhaps even there could be equal time for religions on the radio with new Muslim and Arabic channels to show goodwill. The government should order this.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:19 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:19 pmRay Talliaferro has owned the Frisco night for years, because he has listeners, although not me. The Art Bell/George Norney program sends me searching or to all news. There are lots of stations out there with nothing but sports. I listened to a few Air America programs, but I lack the understanding of media that insults.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:20 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:20 pmWow, this thread has been raped. I feel bad.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:20 pmWhat is it about choice and free markets that leftists just can’t grasp?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:20 pmthe liberal left movement is is OVER. EvenFrance is turing conservative. The rest of the world will follow. Dems were elected due to fustration by right ring that didn’t vote in 06. Republicans are just stupid right now–think they have to move to the center. The more right the candidates in 08 (serious border security, lower taxes, less welfare programs for worthless losers-not the needy-wothless losers, take off the gloves and kill Iraq and Iran for good, and kick out all illegal scum-not hard working ilegals ut illegal SCUM, and appoint jdges would will interpret the law rather than write new ones) the easier it will be to carry all states except communist Mass. Cali, and Washington. it wount eevn be close. If GOP gets a left wing Dem like Rudy, McCain or Romney, who gives a sh*t.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:20 pm“So, in reading the responses I notice the following:
Those with liberal views resort to name-caling first, loudest and in the most hurtful ways.
Why is it they can’t voice an opinion or refute a position without calling someone else names?
Al Franken is stupid and so are the rest of the far left.
Comment by DENNIS —
You do realize you’ve just did what you’ve accused others of doing, right? Comedic gold.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:20 pmi thought it was cause liberal radio sucks and gets no ratings
June 20th, 2007 at 9:20 pmHey Jihadi –
Enjoying your flush toilet here in the US?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:20 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:20 pmSo who’s fault is it the no one wants to listen to Liberal talk shows? Don’t blame the conservatives. Looks like some are saying we can’t beat them so lets close them down on some stupid rule/law.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:21 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:21 pmnocon……you are showing your i.q.,….and frankly, it is not very fatterring to you……but, actually, you are very smart for who you are…
June 20th, 2007 at 9:21 pm“the liberal left movement is is OVER. ”
How’s the political wilderness?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:21 pmHas anyone noticed how often people begin cursing and name-calling, when they are unable to win an argument or a discussion? Is that a lack of knowledge and reasoning, displayed through a limited vocabulary; or simple rudeness?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:21 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:21 pmI would like to see The Center for American Progress and Free Press do a similar study on the leftwing domination of network news. At least the talk radio stations that broadcast conservative talk have to answer to market forces unlike the network news which has been losing viewers for years. And, unlike the leftwing oriented NPR, conservative talk radio stations do not receive taxpayer funds.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:21 pmTYPICAL LIBERAL GARBAGE & STUPIDITY. The LIBERALS HAVE DOMINATED THE TELEVISION STATIONS, AND NEWSPAPERS FOR 50 YEARS, AND THESE IDIOTS SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. There are MORE CONSERVATIVES, than Liberals in this nation. WE FLED FROM TV & NEWSPAPERS IN DROVES, AND HAVE ENDED UP ON RADIO, AND THE INTERNET.. Now all of the tv and newspapers and networks have lost all of their readers, and watchers and they are SO STUPID that they still can’t figure it out. Now they want to slap CENSORSHIP on radio, while CONTINUING THEIR LIBERAL DOMINATION OF TV & NEWSPAPERS. they will lose, and we will pee on their liberal graves.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:22 pmMore racism from the rightwing
June 20th, 2007 at 9:22 pmSo Spudge in involed in the media and he thinks that news should not make money. That is why Air America went broke, that’s why TV networks, network news, newspapers and magazines are tanking. With NYT leading the pack. If you don’t give the customer what he wants he will go elsewhere to get.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:22 pmI get it Sludge wants us taxpayer to put food on his table when his bosses go under.
Liberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:22 pmLet’s see here, Air America (left wing) in financial trouble. Rosanne Barr (left wing), closed shop after 3 months on the radio. Alec Baldwin (far left wing), can’t hold an audience on the radio. NPR (left wing), good luck with that. Do you see a trend. Not enough people care to listen to left wing radio because it doesn’t make sense. And for that, some right wing radio is a tad too right and confrontational to a fault, O’Reilly. Talk radio is what it is because it is a better view of what the PEOPLE have to say instead of what the government has to say (CONGRESS). We need to get rid of the people in government through elections that favor squelching one of the last frontiers of untainted free voice, talkradio!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:22 pmPlease note: we have noticed most of the posts are conservative or defending talk radio, this will not be acceptable. All pro talk posts will be removed and only those posts more inline with the progressive movement will be allowed to remain.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:22 pmLet me start by saying I think much of talk radio is BS. That said – Liberals are all for “choice” as long as it’s THEIR choice. When you can’t compete in the arena of IDEAS – cry “it’s not fair” and pass a LAW to correct this “wrong”.
And the liberals call conservatives “fascist” !
June 20th, 2007 at 9:22 pmProgressive hell. Call it by its real name “LIBERALS”.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:23 pmSo why aren’t the commenting on the LIBERAL control of TV and Newspapers?
Oh that’s right, it’s fair when Liberals (Progressives) control something, but unfair when they don’t.
What BS
June 20th, 2007 at 9:23 pmI want a LIBERAL TO ANSWER THIS: Liberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:23 pmHey jehardi, go blow yourself up and take your camel with you!~
June 20th, 2007 at 9:23 pmAs long as you are repealing the First Amendment, don’t forget to apply the same “logic” to progressive (a.k.a., flaming liberal) media – like Hollywood movies, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, PBS – not to mention New York Times, LA Times, etc., etc.
I’m sure that in the interest of being fair and balanced, you want to force them to be conservative!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:23 pmLiberals answer this: Liberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:23 pmYou are facists. Your warmongering is killing innocent Muslims everyday and you ask about terror?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:24 pmA former Clinton Chief of Staff’s Democrat front group says talk radio needs to be regulated by the government. Boy – that’s news. Not any kind of sports talk, news, NPR, “progressive talk,” personal advice, or any other kind of talk.
After all, sports talk that focuses specifically on one team or region’s sports teams is not serving the needs of the public that don’t share an interest or passion in those teams, right? That needs regulation too. Its just NOT FAIR.
No. Only conservative opinions need regulation. Which, quite hysterically and in true Stalinist/Chavez fascist fashion, need “government regulation.” Too many opinions out there just floating around unsquelched. Gotta run it by Hillary and the gang before it gets out there.
What a disgrace this “report” is for free speech. It is suggesting that certain opinions (conservative opinions, presumably defined by liberals, should have government regulation. Not indecency, not obscene content – POLITICAL OPINIONS.
The government can regulate indecency over the airwaves. The form and content of individual radio programs?
Not so much – Howard Stern proved that nicely. There’s that pesky little first Amendment to deal with, after all. Once the government starts meddling in what opinions people can and can’t say, when they can say it, in what amount, in what tone, and by whose decree, you no longer have a free press. You have a government-mandated content. We already have that – its called NPR.
And by the way, NPR, Air America, progressive talkers, etc. would all need balance from the conservatives. That’s what the liberals want – more conservative balance to their radio talk shows. Right?
Nobody is “preventing” liberals from entering talk radio. They just stink at it, plain and simple. Their failure to gain a foothold in this one medium is also due to an over-saturation of liberal opinions on TV, NPR and PBS (government-funded media), in movies, in newspapers, in schools, in government bureaucracy, in music, in magazines, etc. You can turn on any medium, including radio, and find liberal opinions with no trouble. If people choose not to listen or to switch to something else, that’s their choice. It isn’t John Podesta’s.
Also, this ThinkProgress post is ironic, given what’s not allowed by the site’s Terms of Use:
• Post any content to the Blog that is unlawful, racist, hateful, libelous, defamatory, obscene, or that intentionally discriminates against or harasses particular individuals or groups.
This entire “report” intentionally discriminates against conservatives, which are both individuals and groups. It suggest that government harassment of such groups and their opinions is a positive course of action.
Heh. Can’t even follow your own vague, overbroad rules, can you guys?
Now we see what kind of Orwellian BS we will be getting under the “doubleplusgood proposed laws” of the Mr. Podesta’s talk-radio legislation.
Sorry – I discriminated against Stalinists there. Hope I don’t get banned or regulated.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:24 pmWell, I see that SOCIALISM is still alive and well in the good old USA! Next they will demand that Gov’t distribute the works of Marx so we all will have something to compare to our own thoughts and ideas.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:24 pm#538….nice!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:24 pmYou are a highly emotional and illogical person who obviously does not understand what you speak of. GWB is not a conservative, never was, never has been. There were many conservatives out there who were warning Republicans and conservative voters but people were so sick of Clinton/Gore and then elitist/blue blooded snobs like John Kerry that they voted for him.
I will make you this promise, despite how chaotic things look for Republicans, they are just as bad for the Dems. America as a whole has lost complete faith with the entire government, not just the president. Congressional ratings are even worse than the Presidents. This next election cycle will be very interesting but I guarantee you that we will end up with another Republican president.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:24 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:25 pmDo you remember how AM radio used to be when the “fairness doctrine†was in effect barfly?
Dull.
No ratings.
Bring it back and stations will change formats, which is what the liberal wussies want.
Comment by Toliver
But what you want is propaganda, right? Why else would you feel so threatened (as evidenced by the troll brigade) that you think equal time is too controversial?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:25 pmUh, most radio is conservative because that’s what is supported by listeners. Look at Air America (a liberal network) and it went bankrupt.
Free market rules… and so what if the TV networks are liberal? Outlets like Fox News are beginning to counter that… why? Because people watch it, plain and simple.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:25 pmThe Stalinist impulse of some liberals is rather frightening. Let’s force balance!!!
I would hope liberals would support free speech. You know, defend your right to say something even if you disagree. But I guess, at least for this thinktank, it isn’t to be.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:25 pmGive us open border Bush! Tell the Republicans go to hell.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:26 pmHere is a thought, if you do not like conservative radio, change the station!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:26 pmLiberals do not want to mention equal time in Print and TV. WHY?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:26 pmcenter for american progress and FREE PRESS. HAHAHAHAHA. if you can’t win in the arena of ideas, hinder the source of ideas.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:26 pmps… to Jihadi.. keep it up. Iran is next.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:26 pmAlready did that, you lazy troll. How pathetic.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:26 pmLOL.. You can’t compete freely, so you want to FORCE all other voices off the air – even though they are the voices people want to pay for.
You lost on the playground, now you want the teacher to rig the game for you!!!
BUT YOU ARE THE ENLIGHTENED ONES – YOU KNOW BEST!!
I bow to your superior bullshit. Yes, protect me from myself, oh worthy tyrant!!
But, I repent, I should have known that unrestrained Speech was only boob bait for the Bubbas. It is your superior role to make sure that your speech is properly represented, even though the inferior classes don’t want it.
RULE, OH MASTERS!! OPPRESS AT WILL, FOR YOU ALONE HAVE THE HIGHER TRUTH, AND WE WORMS MUST SUBMIT.
Using state power to silence your opposition. No wonder you love Chavez, and Castro, and Stalin. Rot in hell, you filthy oppressors.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:26 pmAs a Canadian, I can only laugh at the absurdity of this nonsense. I’ve watched ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN and they are ALL right of center. This can be confirmed by visiting MediaMatters. If they appear Liberal to the Neo-cons, it’s only because they don’t suppress all negative stories or lie outright about the way things are. But they do enable the Bush administration and distort and omit enough to be considered Rightwing.
The success of the Neo-con assault on Reason has been to move the line marking the Center further and further to the Right. That’s part of the need for the Rightwing Talk Radio shock jocks: they push the envelop of what is outrageous and unthinkable while mocking ideas once considered respectable and moral.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:26 pmBetter, how do we also fix the overwhelming liberal bias of instructors at our colleges? Certainly, that cannot go unaddressed.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:26 pm“The Center for American Progress and Free Press”…..Wasn’t that called the Communist Free Press and the Daily Worker back in the 60’s?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:26 pmlike Hollywood movies, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, PBS – not to mention New York Times, LA Times, etc., etc.
I’m sure that in the interest of being fair and balanced, you want to force them to be conservative!
Comment by CommonSense — June 20, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
You actually believe that *movies* are liberal – and constitute *news*?
BAHAHA, you may be *common*, but you have no *sense*!
You actually believe that CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC are *liberal*? By what *measure*? because no *unbiased* method shows that!
Only you wingnuts that believe if the news doesn’t repeat your favorite *lie*, their telling of *any* truth makes them liberal!
You’re a f*cking idiot.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:26 pmMy point Jihadi is:
The advantage of living in the US is capitalism. If you want to continue defecating in a hole in the sand and wiping yourself with your left hand then please do so.
If you’re in the US and flushing a toilet for the first time in your life than act like you appreciate it. The rest of your country could benefit from following our lead.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:27 pmYou can’t force bad content on a free society. As long as we stay free, we’ll be all Right.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:27 pmSo your answer to violence is more violence? The Muslim world is burning with rage and your neocon Jews say only war
June 20th, 2007 at 9:27 pmComment by pr
Why so threatened by the concept of equal time? It doesn’t speak well of your commitment to the conservative concept.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:27 pmIt appears that most of you ignorant sheeple miss the fundamental point of this issue. To enact any type of fairness doctrine is nothing short of removing one of the most important rights you have…..freedom of speech. Thousands of people spilled their blood to guarantee that we have this most precious freedom. It is our duty as American citizens to safeguard this right from any government entity. When are you sheeple going to wake up and realize that our government continually chinks away at our rights almost on a daily basis.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:27 pm“The Center for American Progress and Free Pressâ€â€¦..Wasn’t that called the Communist Free Press and the Daily Worker back in the 60’s? Comment by Patriot — June 20, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
A republican wingnut, wasn’t that called a brownshirt nazi sympathizer back in the 1940s when Prescott Bush was one?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:28 pmTrent Lott must be behind this article.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:28 pmI tend to be independent and see things out of both eyes, but after this discussion I realized that liberals did not have a single intelligent item to say and that they are wanting to limit the freedoms that we have in this country. The scary part is that I thought that is what conservatives wanted to do and know I see I was wrong.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:28 pmLiberalism doesn’t sell on the radio airwaves, so they’re going to force feed it to you, for your own good, of course. Liberals can’t even be honest about who they are, masquerading under the Progressive name changes nothing.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:28 pm“Two common myths are frequently offered to explain the imbalance of talk radio: 1) the 1987 repeal of the Fairness Doctrine (which required broadcasters to devote airtime to contrasting views), and 2) simple consumer demand. Each of these fails to adequately explain the root cause of the problem. The report explains”
TWO WORDS THAT THWART YOUR MYTH BUSTING……..AIR AMERICA
June 20th, 2007 at 9:28 pmHugo Chavez, Mao Tse Tung and Joseph Stalin would be proud of this “study”.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:28 pmHow can anyone, especially a freedom-loving American, put forth this totalitarian tripe with a straight face?
I am anxiously awaiting the report entitled “The Structural Imbalance of the Mainstream Media”!
mmmmmmmm…Talk radio is conservative…They had to do a study to figure this out? Why didn’t they do a study of the opinion pages of all the news papers in the country? Do you think they may have found some bias there? What about network and cable news? Let me see, there is CBS (liberal) NBC (liberal) ABC (liberal) CNN (liberal) MSNBC (liberal) ESPN (liberal) The Weather Channel (liberal) Fox News(moderate). It appears that conservative talk radio doesn’t need dissenting opinion, it IS dissenting opinion.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:29 pmYou can’t force bad content on a free society. As long as we stay free, we’ll be all Right.
Comment by Mike
How intellectually cowardly. If your ideas are so well proven, how does equal time threaten you?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:29 pmLiar neocons = Republicans
June 20th, 2007 at 9:29 pmoh yeah – we’re scared………………please – how about the democrats boycotting foxnews’s debate? who’s scared of a lil equal time now?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:29 pmHow can a group with “Free Press” support the government influencing speech. The public use argument behind regulations of broadcast media makes no sense if their is no shortage of airwaves. This argument makes no claim that progressive media outlets are unable to get permits because of some sort of shortage. Look at Air America. It’s only problem was finding listeners. If you disagree with what others are saying raise your own voice don’t silence theirs.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:30 pmOpn the borders for our armies Bush! Tell republicans to go to hell. Bush will take you off radio when he is frightened
June 20th, 2007 at 9:30 pmJIHADI is a dilldo. He talks of peace, while calling himself a religious war murderer. Mohamad was a pervert who raped little girls. He’s dead. get over it..
June 20th, 2007 at 9:30 pmThe reason liberal talk radio shows tend not to do as well is that the radio forum, with all its commercials, is too fast-paced for well thought out, nuanced opinions. Conservative talk radio succeeds because it discusses complex issues in generalized black and white terms.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:30 pmHugo Chavez, Mao Tse Tung and Joseph Stalin would be proud of this “studyâ€.
How can anyone, especially a freedom-loving American, put forth this totalitarian tripe with a straight face?
I am anxiously awaiting the report entitled “The Structural Imbalance of the Mainstream Mediaâ€!
Comment by Ricardo Maxwell — June 20, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
Adolph Hitler would be proud of your post. How can anyone, especially a freedom-loving American, put forth this totalitarian tripe like your post that justifies GOP tied *propaganda* masquerading as *news* with a straight face?
I am anxiously awaiting the report entitled “The Corporate Propaganda outlet of the Right Wingnut Nuts, through state enabled Fascism”.
Otherwise known as the NewsCorp quarterly report…
June 20th, 2007 at 9:31 pmHave fun buying our footbathes? How about our imams in college? you pay for us every day
June 20th, 2007 at 9:31 pmJIHADI is full of hate and should be kicked off this liberal blog..
June 20th, 2007 at 9:31 pmJust like governments of Iran ‘order’ and regulate fairness by killing those who disagree? Statements made by uneducated bigots like this one here is exactly where a path of censorship and forced fairness will lead us. I may hate what most of the left has to say, but I respect their right to say it. A quick look at the ratings in your area will show you exactly why conservative talk shows on the air — because they sell. Put together a better product, and you’ll see how quickly the pendulum swings the other way.
By the way, The sponsors of this webpage THANK the DRUDGE REPORT for giving them more web hits in one day than they have gotten in the last month. How’s that for fair representation?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:32 pmWhen more than Half of the television networks and half of the newspapers and magazines and half of the motion pictures are conservative or exhibit a blatant conservative bias, then we can talk about equal time.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:32 pmUnlike necons, democrats are tolerant of all religions. What about you warmongers? Kick you off
June 20th, 2007 at 9:32 pmJIHADI –
please post your longitude and latitude coordinates.. I’m dialing in some numbers for a gift for you from Northrop
June 20th, 2007 at 9:32 pmDemocrats, Liberals, Progressives, Commies, Leftists, and such, they all think pretty much the same. Challenge them on the liberalism of mainstream TV, Newspapers, and Magazines, they will scream nasty words first, then indignantly cry “there is no liberal bias in those media.” They are liars and dissemblers, and they will do/say anything to get their way. They can’t win in the arena of ideas. As most here have said, this is not about fairness, but suppression and censorship of communication that thwarts their power grab. We, patriots, must take our nation back. The enemy is stealing it every chance they get. I appreciate reading the many intelligent comments here.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:33 pmJIHADI kisses the bottom of Geoge Bush’s feet.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:33 pmNorthrup sells to Arabs my friend
June 20th, 2007 at 9:33 pmHey spudgeboy – AA is NOT owned by a conservative… unless, of course, you consider a liberal Democrat a conservative.
Are you an idiot?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:33 pmECON 101 says, “Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.” Outside of N.Y.C., D.C., Boston, and parts of N.J., Penn., or CA there is a vast world who could care less about some pin head called Don Imus, or Rev. Al, or Hillary, or Paris, or Cris Matthews, or Angelina, or Air America. In other words, there is no demand for useless piffle in the outback.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:33 pmDemocrats, Liberals, Progressives, Commies, Leftists, and such, they all think pretty much the same. Challenge them on the liberalism of mainstream TV, Newspapers, and Magazines, they will scream nasty words first, then indignantly cry “there is no liberal bias in those media.†They are liars and dissemblers, and they will do/say anything to get their way. They can’t win in the arena of ideas. As most here have said, this is not about fairness, but suppression and censorship of communication that thwarts their power grab. We, patriots, must take our nation back. The enemy is stealing it every chance they get. I appreciate reading the many intelligent comments here. Comment by Alan — June 20, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
Your posts are pure lies, propaganda, and projection. What a sad and pathetic little Nazi you are…
June 20th, 2007 at 9:34 pmComment by Patriot
Intellectual bankruptcy. And typical of the cowardly right. That you are all so threatened by the concept of equal time demonstrates how shaky the concept of conservatism really is. If your ideals are so strong, you should embrace the chance to show it on a national stage. Unless you’re scared that you would be exposed as frauds, that is.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:34 pmthe ones sold to Arabs don’t work properly
June 20th, 2007 at 9:34 pmconservatives don’t listen to music radio. The liberal tactic needs to be to get listeners from the music channels, not to try and control the conservatives who don’t dance hard enough and therefore migrate towards talk radio.
–adam
June 20th, 2007 at 9:34 pmconservatives don’t listen to music radio. The liberal tactic needs to be to get listeners from the music channels, not to try and control the conservatives who don’t dance hard enough and therefore migrate towards talk radio. –adam Comment by adam — June 20, 2007 @ 9:34 pm
So your post tries to *control* what the liberals do? Pure projection, Nazi boy.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:35 pmBARFLY –
No one on this planet has prevented a liberal from getting a talk show program on the radio. Equality reigns already.. embrace it.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:36 pmThe republicans are being tricked in Iraq, the neocons try to expand Israel but Islam is fighting their moves. The democrats must pull troops out of the Mideast and comdem Israel’s war crimes
June 20th, 2007 at 9:36 pmLiberals don’t anyone with enough smarts to keep the interest of the average person. Is that Bush’s fault also????
June 20th, 2007 at 9:36 pmWhen my family was stationed in the middle east, we had to fire over a dozen different women that my parents hired to help care for us kids. They kept stealing from us, and saw nothing wriong with it. They also lied. Must be relatives of JIHADI……
June 20th, 2007 at 9:36 pmJihadi,
There is no such thing as a peaceful Muslim.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:37 pmComment by Ricardo Maxwell
So, when corporate media (overwhelmingly conservative) and conservative media can speak on an equal footing, we’ll have true fairness in debate? Nice to know you can’t compete, unless it’s 2 to 1 …
June 20th, 2007 at 9:37 pmEllison, you can not debate me? Why hatred? this is not the democrat way?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:37 pmvalientanus……hitler was far left dumb ass…..that would make you the little nazi,…would it not,…
June 20th, 2007 at 9:37 pmNo one on this planet has prevented a liberal from getting a talk show program on the radio. Equality reigns already.. embrace it.
Comment by DENNIS
So scared ….
June 20th, 2007 at 9:38 pmgreat report! rush is gonna be pissed!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:38 pmBARFLY – No one on this planet has prevented a liberal from getting a talk show program on the radio. Equality reigns already.. embrace it Comment by DENNIS — June 20, 2007 @ 9:36 pm
If a Conservative organization is willing to lose money, and/or take overa a radio marking in an anti-competitive and/or predatory market, then they have.
Equality rarely reigns in business, usually available capital, greed and many times shady practices rule. Especially when there’s *no-regulation*, the point of this post’s conclusion.
Idiot.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:38 pmWell, you lefties had control of the broadcast media for about 50 years, so, I guess we conservatives should get a few innings.
Have you ever thought about the possibility that your socialist/statist blather is seen as a pile of crap by most Americans and they listen to conservative talk radio because they want to.
So much for the constitutional right to free speech. I guess it applies only to so-called “progressives,” although I do not see state control of the dissemination of ideas as very progressive. Maybe you can get Congress to pass a law forcing every American to listen to one hour of Roseanne for every hour of Rush. Come to think of it, Roseanne does accurately represent the quality of liberal thinking in America today.
The theory behind this whining is that Americans are too stupid to make the “correct” choices about what ideas to adopt and what sources of information to choose. What a line of elitist bull!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:38 pmThe number one requirement for a real liberal is to be dishonest. You lie about really being for free speach and lie about the reason talk radio is so popular. If you are an honest liberal you will admit that the only reason that you are not on the radio is because no one wants to listen to your spin on anything. A liberals number one enemy is the truth.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:39 pmThe reason liberal talk radio shows tend not to do as well is that the radio forum, with all its commercials, is too fast-paced for well thought out, nuanced opinions. Conservative talk radio succeeds because it discusses complex issues in generalized black and white terms.
Wow! This is the best post I’ve seen yet! What a joke. I’ve listened to Lying Liar Al Franken and watched Bill Mahr and the only thing either have to offer as “nuanced opinions” is how stupid consertives are and how there is a war mongering “Neocon” conspiritorial movement. Now even conservative hosts do a little of the same, but at least they manage to throw in some well thought ideas that haven’t already failed everywhere they’ve been tried like SOCIALISM. If they can’t keep up in a fast paced environment then they’re not well thought out, they’re not even educated and it’s probably why they’re so boring. You liberals think that you’re so much more educated than everyone else when the TRUTH is that you’ve educated yourselves into immature imbacility.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:39 pmWhat is wrong with equality on radio? republicans don’t like the idea of equality?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:39 pm“valientanus……hitler was far left dumb ass…..that would make you the little nazi,…would it not,…”
Check your history. Nazism is a far-right ideology.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:39 pmwow, what an insightful and brilliant comment
June 20th, 2007 at 9:39 pm“so scared”
I just finished taking a poop in one of the foot baths in the airport. All the stalls were taken and I could not hold it any longer. I hope the muzzies don’t get upset with me. The damn thing was ripe for the purpose. I was not able to get the turd down the drain. They need to enlarge the holes.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:39 pmbarfly – you are advocating equal time for radio?!? What about TV, then? What about schools’ curricula?
You are going down that slope, bud. Free speech is pretty simple, and you are pretty much ignoring it. Equal time only applies to political campaigning, not day-to-day talk shows.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:40 pmHey Barf fly, ever had to meet a payroll?
Comment by Richard brown
No, but I’ve been screwed by bosses who said “don’t worry, there’s plenty of money to pay you. And that dick was a Reagan conservative …
June 20th, 2007 at 9:40 pm“What a sad and pathetic little Nazi you are…”
There’s a good example of progressive thought. How long before “progressive” has the same bad odor as “liberal” and must be replaced? I’ll give it five to ten years before rebranding becomes necessary.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:40 pmThe number one requirement for a real liberal is to be dishonest. You lie about really being for free speach and lie about the reason talk radio is so popular. If you are an honest liberal you will admit that the only reason that you are not on the radio is because no one wants to listen to your spin on anything. A liberals number one enemy is the truth. Comment by Logic and reason — June 20, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
More projection from the little Nazi – Adam. Poor little dum bass!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:40 pm“Intellectual bankruptcy. And typical of the cowardly right. That you are all so threatened by the concept of equal time demonstrates how shaky the concept of conservatism really is. If your ideals are so strong, you should embrace the chance to show it on a national stage. Unless you’re scared that you would be exposed as frauds, that is.”
Two words: Air America
June 20th, 2007 at 9:41 pmROFL — wtg 616
June 20th, 2007 at 9:41 pmwe feel sorry for rebublicans because they are fooled by Bush and the neocon Jews. You will see to soon. When the democrats hold hearings.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:41 pmoh no, the nanny progressive are now going to make us listen to Al Franken. The are going to send Rosie O’Donnell clones into the homes of all hardworking, independent, taxpaying citizens and turn our radio dials to listen to Castro and Chavez fireside chats. Heck with the market place, they have ABC, CBS, and NBC with all their left wing whackos, and now they want to take my grandma’s radio. I imagine they will grant clemency to all the copkillers on deathrow to become the foot soldiers of their war on self-determination. I bet some very smart techie in Silicon Valley is working on the a device for the blackmarket of the pre-pods (those who listen to talk radio and have not been Rosie-ized). Talk Radio causes Global Warming — run for the hills!! Talk Radio causes crow feet — stop it now!! Talk Radio causes cellulite — help us please!! Talk Radio ate my homework — we will overcome!!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:41 pmA study worthy of the Third Reich
June 20th, 2007 at 9:41 pmmoderate,….so socialism is a conservative idea?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:41 pmJIHADI…. i will not stoop to debate you. You are an ignoranat liar, and a fool. It is an obvious fact. As proof, i submit that you claim that liberals like you are tolerant to all other religions. WHIL AT THE SAME TIME YOU CHOOSE “JIHADI” AS YOUR SCREEN NAME. WHICH IS DEFINED AS A “MUSLIM WHO IS AT WAR WITH, AND WILL MURDER ALL NON-MUSLIMS. see JIHADI, you lie, and are TRASH.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:42 pm“What a sad and pathetic little Nazi you are…â€
There’s a good example of progressive thought. How long before “progressive†has the same bad odor as “liberal†and must be replaced? I’ll give it five to ten years before rebranding becomes necessary.
Comment by Banjo — June 20, 2007 @ 9:40 pm
Says the f*cker, that belongs the the Nazis, who’ve spent 400 million dollars a year – for the LAST 30 YEARS to rebrand liberal. Doesn’t it just s*ck for you that you have to START ALL OVER WITH PROGRESSIVE!
St*pid little Nazi c*nt! You can’t kill *ideas* or *freedom*, with all of your little Nazi b*llsh*t!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:42 pmAIPAC rules it all!..I personally have had all I can stomach of politics, radio and TV..Retired working in my garden and the hell with all of it…Let the Caesers fight for what they want among themselves..If they come by my place I’m throwing rotten tomatoes..HA
June 20th, 2007 at 9:42 pmStrawman Comment by Bob Martin
So threatened by equal time. What’s the matter, Bob? If what you say is true, it will become apparent that lib radio can’t compete under the fairness doctrine. Your fears would seem misplaced.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:43 pmYou Elison write on this blog to fool your rebuplicans into your ideology of hate and murder in the Mideast. The Bush has sent these people like Ellson to the blogs to report on the writings here.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:44 pmA study worthy of the Third Reich
Comment by A Patriot — June 20, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
If you replace “of” with “reminiscent of an analysis of consolidation of media under” – you start to get more accurate! Nazi boy!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:44 pmMy local newspaper, like most in the country, is a liberal rag. It travels on PUBLIC roadways, so it is therefore under the domain of the NTSB and the Department of Transportation. I want the fairness doctorine to apply to every newspaper and magazine (the post office is a public accomodation!!!). Why stop at radio, let us get every form of communication.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:44 pmJIHADI is probably a too.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:44 pmModerate guy, you have it completely backwards.
Conservatism comes across well in radio because it is slow paced and shows last for 3 or 4 hours so there is time to examine all sides of an issue. Ideas can be discussed and concepts fully articulated. It is also a 2 way medium that takes callers and allows all voices to be heard.
Liberalism is a soundbite ideology, that’s why TV is so liberal, it is much easier to play a 10 second soundbite and then move on. No one is allowed to give an opposing view. No callers are allowed on the air to point out inconsitencies or put the host on the hot seat by asking intelligent questions. Liberals prefer to spew their garbage and then walk away. They hate it when someone questions their logic and proves them wrong.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:44 pmMaybe people like Conservative talk radio more than “progressive” or liberal. . . novel thought!
How did Air America do again?
Liberals are afraid and jealous of competing ideas.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:45 pmOpen borders Ellison!! Let us in! We want work!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:45 pmIt’s a business. If liberal talk would sell, it would be on the air. Cox Enterprises is controlled by the liberal Cox family, yet, look at the talk shows on the Cox Enterprises’ stations. WSB, WIOD, etc. It’s a business folks!!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:45 pmI’ll give it five to ten years before rebranding becomes necessary.
Comment by Banjo — June 20, 2007
Well, your brand is currently in the dumpster, so I wouldn’t brag too much …
June 20th, 2007 at 9:45 pmwow,….i dont think these enlightened progressives are used to being challenged on their ideas,….maybe they should ban conservatives from using the internet,…hell, afterall, their boy gore invented it…
June 20th, 2007 at 9:46 pmJIHADI …GOTCHA… you are so upset, you can’t spell properly. remember, IRAN is next… and when we are through, we will rename the “PERSIAN GULF” to be the “AMERICAN GULF.”
June 20th, 2007 at 9:46 pm“How intellectually cowardly. If your ideas are so well proven, how does equal time threaten you?”
It doesn’t threaten me, it threatens free speech. The reason,
June 20th, 2007 at 9:47 pmWell a station owner has to pay bills and a station has it’s audience. When the owner is forced to put on 50% of something that doesn’t play to it’s audience, the audience changes to another channel. The station owner loeses revenue and the bills don’t get paid. The staion goes off the air. So if someone is SO intellectually brave how about building your own station and audience.
What is proposed by this “tink tank” is not intellectual courage it’s plain chicken sh$% end round way to silence a viewpoint that threatens them.
No one is currently stopping anybody from putting out any flavor of talk show that will sell. Maybe you should read a little Ayn Rand if you want to get a flavor to what is really trying to go down here
Breakup the Network TVs, newspapers, internet sites, & everything if you go after talk radios. No more USA Today – all papers can only print 10,000 copies.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:47 pmThere appears to be a liberal bias in the news media. Problem is most of these outlets are actually owned by conservatives, Could it be that current owners in the media don’t care what they say as long as they bring a profit? Saying you need ‘more diversity in ownership’ to get more ‘diversity in view’ is basically a tacit urge by this think tank to get more liberal owners so there can be more liberal views on the radio. What then does this say about their view of the objectivity of liberal radio owners?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:47 pmSo, if we continue to listen to talk radio, do we get the gas chamber?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:47 pmNo, it’s true. On average, Liberals are more highly educated than Conservatives. Simple fact.
PLEASE! Give me a break. I would gladly put my I.Q. against anyone from the left any day. Your room temperature I.Q. couldn’t formulate a cognitive thought even if you were given a lab full of petri dishes to cultivate some brain cells.
Here is simple fact. Due to their number of abortions, and members choosing not to marry because of career; conservative voters are due to outnumber liberal voters in the future. Liberals are to stupid to breed and shore up their voter base. It is only a matter of time. Look it up dunce.
Simple rule in business, you have to make money to have a business.
If these radio stations could make more money airing liberal views, they would. To say that is just bunk is STUPID. This country is obsessed with making money, everyone knows that.
If it pays they will follow. I know it is really hard to swallow for you libs, but the truth is more conservative voters listen to talk radio. More liberal voters are likely to watch reality TV and Oscar award shows. Truly intelligent stimulation……HA
June 20th, 2007 at 9:47 pmLiberals are afraid and jealous of competing ideas.
Comment by Alfred Lendel
As if conservatives have had a new thought since they decided arming terrorists wasn’t such a hot idea …
June 20th, 2007 at 9:48 pmWell well well so now you want to try to mussel the conservative talk show host I would say I’m 75% conservative and 25% liberal.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:48 pmCould it be that most Americans do not want to listen to that left wing liberal B.S.that the liberal news print and T.V media try to push on us?
If you don’t like it turn the freakin dial, and if I wanted to live in a nanny state I would move to England.
These threats are old and tired. Your Bush is on the way out. Leave Iraq already to people who live there! Why is that impossible?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:48 pmWow, lot’s of comments. I had to stop after the first 100 or so when they started getting personal (”all libs are wimps” or “all cons are warmongers”). Everyone should know by now that broad categorization is always wrong.
Here are a few observations I found interesting:
1) Why is this under the heading/title “Braindead media” (sandwiched in between the article title and the header)? Using a pejorative like “braindead” indicates you have some kind of political axe to grind.
2) So, 91% of talk radio is conservative and 9% is liberal. You mean to tell me that all talk radio is a perfect dichotomy of only 2 types? I know several shows DJ’s that will spend one segment bashing Bush and the war, and the the next deriding a the “global warming hoax”. Where do they fall in the spectrum?
3) Also, what were the criteria for determining what is conservative and what is liberal? How can you compute political ideology – using math and not opinion – down to a percentage point? Even if you had a computer that could transcribe all words from all stations, how could it analyze those words for political intent (assuming it could get around sarcasm). Answer: It’s not possible, so there is some opinion behind the “facts” of this article.
4) Let’s assume for a minute someone really has invented this magic ideology detector that is completely unbiased in its assessment. Be careful what you wish for, because next we need to use it on television, newspapers, and movies, and see how they stack up.
5) quote (about liberal stations going out of business due to low market share):
Wrong, Noahm. That’s a popular “common sense†misconception that doesn’t always hold true in the real world. There are many examples all across the country of liberal talk programs and/or whole station formats that did well with advertisers and got very good ratings, but were dumped in favor of lesser-performing formats, often into the face of direct competition in the markets.
Comment by spit take
I say, “prove it”. I have listened to Randy Rhodes and a few others. I never once laughed, and I felt like I was listening in to some people who were hanging out in a bar after they had been fired from their job. It wasn’t entertaining and it wasn’t coherent. It was just people who were complaining. I gave it a month, but in the end, I turned if off and moved on. That’s how free choice works.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:48 pmLiberal Talk Radio has failed everytime it has been tried. The exception is NPR because it is funded by your Taxpayer Dollars 24 hours a day. Cut off those funds and it will fold too. Ask the Military Personel in the Middle East what they want to hear. It won’t be Liberal Radio.
Semper Fi
June 20th, 2007 at 9:48 pmMaybe for their next study they will look at NPR. (oh wait, why would they.)
June 20th, 2007 at 9:48 pmWhat about TV? ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, CBC, BBC all bleeding heart liberals. Fox is the closest things to a conservative viewpoint, and it really is not that conservative.
I am all for equal time on radio if we can get equal time on TV.
Liberalism is a disease, and the only cure is death.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:48 pmJIHADI … you homo, the only open borders you will see is our TANKS and gunships cracking open your IRANIAN borders….
June 20th, 2007 at 9:48 pmLiberal thought is as close as you can get to nazi thoughts. No debate because I am always right Liberal. Schools all have one thought process-liberal. TV news and print have one thought process -liberal. A liberals worst enemy – the truth.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:49 pmAll it will be is the Blood Gulf.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:49 pmLiberalism is a soundbite ideology, that’s why TV is so liberal, it is much easier to play a 10 second soundbite and then move on. Comment by Sgt. Anderson — June 20, 2007 @ 9:44 pm
That’s b*llsh*t. TV is NOT SO LIBERAL – you IDIOT.
No one is allowed to give an opposing view. Comment by Sgt. Anderson — June 20, 2007 @ 9:44 pm
You mean like the CONSERVATIVE BLOGS, and the Conservative TALK RADIO, where people can’t get through, and are hung up on, and are restricted in their ability to discuss things reasonably?
No callers are allowed on the air to point out inconsitencies or put the host on the hot seat by asking intelligent questions. Comment by Sgt. Anderson — June 20, 2007 @ 9:44 pm
Sounds a lot like Conservative radio – where if they are allowed on the air, they’re shut down by the talk show host, that simply restates a *false* talking point to gullible listener like you if any alternative *facts* arise.
Liberals prefer to spew their garbage and then walk away. They hate it when someone questions their logic and proves them wrong.
Comment by Sgt. Anderson — June 20, 2007 @ 9:44 pm
Pure projection.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:50 pmI keep reading other people’s emails, sorry, I can’t help but writing again. When you get outside of the left/right mindset, Nazism/fascism is much closer to socialism, and vice versa, than to any major party in America. Both movements were totalitarian and revolved around taking away people’s freedom(to me this article is not about “equality,” it’s about freedom). In America, both parties have positions which are for individual freedom and against it depending on the subject. Personally, in my biased opinion, I feel like republicans are closer to my position of personal freedom to do as I “damn well please.” (just out of completeness, I view abortion as a question of whether or not a fetus is a human being or not, I think they are so I am as against abortion as much as I’m against murder)
June 20th, 2007 at 9:50 pm“Here is simple fact. Due to their number of abortions, and members choosing not to marry because of career; conservative voters are due to outnumber liberal voters in the future. Liberals are to stupid to breed and shore up their voter base. It is only a matter of time. Look it up dunce.”
And when students are forced to associate with educated people, they also become educated – and liberal. Your example is laughable.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:50 pmLiberal: The word indoctrination comes to mind
June 20th, 2007 at 9:50 pmAll listen to Ellison!!! He is a neocon bloger! Read his words again and again!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:50 pmFor all you Lefty’s out there crying the blues. Aren’t you happy owning the main stream media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, then of course you have your newspapers. Oh, I forgot, most people with brains don’t read those rags or watch those channels. The want information they go to FOX news. Rather than bashing it, try it, you might gain a few I.Q. points.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:50 pmLiberal thought is as close as you can get to nazi thoughts. No debate because I am always right Liberal. Schools all have one thought process-liberal. TV news and print have one thought process -liberal. A liberals worst enemy – the truth. Comment by Logic and reason — June 20, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
Pure projection from the Conservative, that’s too st*pid to know he’s a nazi. Poor little sheeple!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:51 pmThe public opinion of Congress and the White House is at an all-time low, so the answer is censorship? Right. Keep it up oh great leaders and you are going to see protests and violence like this country hasn’t seen since 1968. In fact, it will be worse now that you have trashed religious restraint and morality. I say we throw the millionaires and bilionaires out of office, sieze all all of their special perks, pensions, lobbying and campaign money, and make them live on the social security payments they want to share with the illeagal aliens.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:51 pmThe Left dominates ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, NPR, CNN, NY Times, LA Times, Washing Post, Newsweek, Time, and the entertainment industry. The Right gets Talk Radio and Fox. Is that not fair?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:51 pmA liberals worst enemy – the truth.
Comment by Logic and reason
Which is why you dorks are so stirred up, eh? Because “the truth” is your carefully think-tank tested conservative pablum.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:52 pmthe airways are free… listen to what you want… advertisers flock to audiences….. Capitalism at it’s best. If you don’t like it…. leave and go to a socialist society.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:52 pmHmmm, I’m seeing red here.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:52 pmEllisons blogs are hate filled and warmongering. This is what must be banned! It leads to terror!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:52 pmAnyone else think that Spudge_Boy is now ValientAnus? And…. maybe we could at least ignore Jihadi? Trolls only live if fed. Let’s stop feeding him [yes - I know - I just threw him a tidbit].
June 20th, 2007 at 9:52 pmJIHADI .. you have lost the war, and you have lost your mind. I WIN. YOU LOSE. I am going to sleep now. See you later, as I am sitting at the desk of your Iranian President after we destroy your pathetic little country… this conversation is over… just like liberal television and liberal newspapers. the ONLY TV THAT COUNTS IS FOX. THE ONLY NEWSPAPER THAT IS WORTH READING IS OWNED BY MURDOCK.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:52 pm“And when students are forced to associate with educated people, they also become educated – and liberal. Your example is laughable.”
This usually lasts until around the first job
June 20th, 2007 at 9:52 pmOK. I guess you and your research paper are correct. Where do I get in line to support your recomendations? …These Stalenists. China could probably assist in the strategy of our liberal cousins, so lost in their drunken Bush rage.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:52 pmWe will balance opinion on radio when all print media opinion is balanced. Then we can talk.
“And the fact that you think this is about ratings is your first problem.
Real news doesn’t make money. Therefore ratings do not matter one iota. You would know that if you work with newspapers, magazines, radio and TV like I do.”
REALLY?! Then MR. professional; Why is it that these talk shows have to break for the news? OH that’s right because they are classified as ENTERTAINMENT you simpleton. They are not considered news therefore ratings MATTER completely. You are such a jackass.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:52 pmIs that not fair?
Comment by John —
Why so threatened by the concept of equal time?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:52 pmYou can mandate that 95% of the radio stations be liberal, but everyone will turn to the other 5%. The problem is that nobody listens to the liberal talk show hosts. Personally, I’ve found liberal talk shows crude and vapid.
But, try again. Prove me wrong. Start yet another liberal format and see if it gets ratings.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:53 pmAs the writer uses the term progressive and as those of like mind follow suit let us freedom lovers make a run on the word liberal. Liberal derives from liberty and from life.
Progressive etymology is pro (parallel) gress (grade or walk) Think of the crowd that walked alongside Jesus’ miracles instead of walking with Christ. They suck on life from the fringes just as this non-thinking tank is proposing.
Marketplace of ideas. Leftist radio ain’t popular because tyranny ain’t popular. Duh!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:53 pmThis is a troll-storm the likes I’ve never seen!!!!!!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:53 pmLet’s remember why Talk Radio came along. The news networks such as CNN and the Big Three as well as most major news magazines (OK, give conservatives the Wall Street Journal) and newspapers dominated by Liberals. In 1996 and in 2000, nearly 93% of all major news and TV journalists admited to vote Democrat. Conservatives found a format and venue they could counter and hear their points of view.
Our country is divided 40% conservative, 40% liberal and 20% in the middle (’independents’ some pundits call them). Until Talk Radio, the only voices being raised were liberal. I’m sorry to disappoint you, but the dominating liberal media created the arena of talk radio for conservatives.
Timothy
June 20th, 2007 at 9:53 pmIt appears that ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus once picked up a psychology textbook and read about the concept of projection. It’s a great tool because anytime someone accuses him of something he simply says “PURE PROJECTION”. What he really means is “I’m rubber your glue whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you” which is a brilliant argument.
He/She obviously never listens to talk radio otherwise he would know everything in my post that he disected and tried to contradict was absolutely true and I was right and he is wrong. Remember if you’re not RIGHT you must be wrong.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:54 pmHaha blessings be upon you and may you see the light of conversion Ellison!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:54 pmFreedom good, control by others bad. These “ideas” limit freedom of others to listen and promote as they see fit. The marketplace of ideas speaks everyday. Groupthink by the elites (liberals or progressives, whatever) just doesn’t sell. And the elitists know it.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:54 pmI was just looking at Spudge’s blog, and I think I understand his frustration. He’s frustrated because he sees President Bush as a big moron, and the Democrats couldn’t put anyone up to beat him. I mean, when your party can’t beat the stupidest person in the world, it’s got to hurt your self esteem.
But hey, at least the Democrat controlled Congress has a 14% approval rating. Way to go, Nancy!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:54 pm“The Center for American Progress and Free Press” should change its name to “The Center for American Censorship!” If you can’t win in the arena of ideas, ban it, tax it, censor it!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:54 pmThis is typical Modern Liberalism: find a way to limit speech. The parallels to the Soviets, Chavez(D-Venezuela), etc, etc. is amazing. People listen to talk radio because they like it. Modern Liberals spent millions on Air America and apparently, not many people want to listen to it. NPR has to be subsidized to survive. If they limit talk radio, then they should pull all of subsidies from PBS and NPR, too.
If Modern Liberals had ideas, then maybe people would listen. The reality is Lefty Talk Radio is mostly about bashing people and Western Culture. I went to an Al Franken show when he was in Chicago (last year?) and it just wasn’t that good – and he is someone who is good with audiences from his comedy experience.
Well, we all can see through this. It’s just about limiting free speech.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:54 pmThere IS an imbalance in the media today and it is overwhelmingly dominated by liberals. Talk radio is the ONLY format that conservatives own and you libs just can’t stand it. You own network news, newspapers, and magazines. This is nothing more than an attempt to shut down those who expose liberals for who they are. Would I listen to a liberal talk show? You bet I would, only if they would take calls without hanging up on people who disagree. I would call in and consistently show their listeners how utterly stupid, illogical, and hypocritical their arguments are.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:54 pmStonewall, Nazi socialism wasn’t concerned as much with economics as it was with creating a strong sense of nationalism (although there were certainly elements of liberal economic policies within Germany). Generally speaking, Nazism was a form of fascism. In other words, as a matter of ideology it was far right-wing, especially given its emphasis on nationalism, racism, and anti-communism.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:54 pmLet’s stop feeding him [yes - I know - I just threw him a tidbit].
Comment by Daniel —
And who the hell are you, newbie troll? Why are you so scared of the Fairness doctrine?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:54 pmHeck, regarding “crude and vapid,” look at the comments on the liberal blogs compared to the comments on the conservative blogs.
The conservative blogs have rational and intelligent discussions.
The liberal blogs degenerate to name calling.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:55 pmOh yea liberals cannot ever get into the arena of ideas and just argue using the facts. Liberals want to make personnal attacks at people instead of defending there position. You are the perfect example of why I am right. But of coarse you are probably not an honest person and cannot admit it to yourself
June 20th, 2007 at 9:55 pmps: JIHADI is a dweeb. and his momma dresses him funny… now, go eat some pork..
June 20th, 2007 at 9:55 pmThe left has 99% of the media , which is biased left as possible while the conservatives have only talk radio and a few blogs to get the unbuiased truth out. I have to pay for public radio and it only provides for the left’s idea of what we are allowed to hear. Should talk radio be eliminated ,(censored), we are in the same boat as Hitler put the Germans in the thrities. Perhaps we just want to hear the truth and not liberal propergander.
Jim MIller
June 20th, 2007 at 9:55 pmHow about letting the market dictate what’s on the airways? We don’t need more government regulation. If corporate station owners could make money with progressive talk shows, then they would do it.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:55 pmWell, we all can see through this. It’s just about limiting free speech.
Comment by Al —
Suck up your conserva-pablum, tool. What an intellectual coward …
June 20th, 2007 at 9:55 pmI find it ironic that the “Center for American Progress and Free Press†are opposed to talk radio in its present format. The fact they want to impose governmental regulation is counter to their charter. The reality is that listeners decide what they want to hear. I would be interested to see the Arbitron ratings regarding listenership in the major markets. I bet that the conservative talk shows out perform every other talk program for their respected time slots.
Mike
June 20th, 2007 at 9:55 pmRatings, and the mighty dollar rule all… If there was a demand, there would be liberal talk radio, but there isn’t, so there isn’t.. It’s not rocket science people. What happens to television shows no one watches? They get cancelled… SAME WITH RADIO… No advertising, no money, no money, no show. ITS THAT SIMPLE.
Only a moonbat looney lefty ‘Think’ tank could come up with this.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:56 pmLiberal Talk Radio has failed everytime it has been tried. The exception is NPR because it is funded by your Taxpayer Dollars 24 hours a day. Cut off those funds and it will fold too. Ask the Military Personel in the Middle East what they want to hear. It won’t be Liberal Radio. Semper Fi Comment by Rick — June 20, 2007 @ 9:48 pm
Well jarhead, you should have kept that lid on your jar, because your brains have all spilled out. NPR is not *funded* by tax payers, it’s merely *subsidized* – that is a *different* thing – dum bass. Only 2% of NPR’s budget comes directly from the federal guv’mint – idiot. It does receive some other government money indirectly, but it’s a small part of the budget.
Where did you hear this b*llsh*t? Conservative talk radio?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:56 pmProgressive etymology is pro (parallel) gress (grade or walk) Think of the crowd that walked alongside Jesus’ miracles instead of walking with Christ. They suck on life from the fringes just as this non-thinking tank is proposing.
Marketplace of ideas. Leftist radio ain’t popular because tyranny ain’t popular. Duh!
Comment by Jericho — June 20, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
Actually, that is not the etymology of “progressive” at all, my Conservative Troll friend.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:56 pmCensorship is the only way to free open dialog.
If I dont like what you say I will cut you off! Obviously
open minded!
Having the Public schools, Universities, Hollywood, news media
Public Radio and TV is not enough! shut down any (talk radio) competition!
Free speech means only the left is allowed to speak.
The little people are rebelling against the George Soros,
Ted Turners, Steven Spielbergs of the world! This isnt fair!
Dont you know? Intellect is measured by how much you agree with the left!
All views are welcome as long as they advance world socialism
New Think, group think
George Orwell nailed it over 60 years ago!
Give me Liberty or give me Death!
June 20th, 2007 at 9:56 pmThe radio should be made fair to all points of view. Is this not American way? Since Limbaugh and Murdoch, your country is in trouble.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:57 pmOh yea liberals cannot ever get into the arena of ideas and just argue using the facts. Liberals want to make personnal attacks at people instead of defending there position. You are the perfect example of why I am right. But of coarse you are probably not an honest person and cannot admit it to yourself. Comment by Logic and reason — June 20, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
More projection from the Nazi, that believes everyone else is the nazi. You’re terribly boring.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:57 pmThe liberal anti-choice anti-liberty Stalanists are crawling down the wrong sewer yet again. What about newspapers? What about Hollywood? What about ABCMSNBCBSCNNBCABCNBCCBSABC all day long? Are they balanced? Not a snowballs chance in hell.
And for the technical morons, airwaves have the capacity for geometrically more channels, voices, and opinions. If you liberals want your own radio talk shows, put your welfare checks together and go buy one. You will fail, as so many others have, but hey you gave it a shot right. The problem for liberals is that persons who listen to talk radio and generally driven, intelligent, 8 to 5 U.S. citizens (conservatives for short). Liberal spew works best in sound bytes.
“I hate Bush”
“Tax payer health care for all”
“Rich people are evil”
“Oil Companies are gouging”
“Amnesty for Illegals”
Great, now what do you talk about for the next 2hrs 50 minutes?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:57 pmHeck, regarding “crude and vapid,†look at the comments on the liberal blogs compared to the comments on the conservative blogs.
The conservative blogs have rational and intelligent discussions.
The liberal blogs degenerate to name calling.
Comment by muckdog — June 20, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
The conservative blogs, like conservative radio has censorship.
The liberal blogs let st*pid nazis like you post, therefore the conversation reflects the sh*t you bring.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:58 pmNot so long ago conservatives had NO outlet for their opinions and progressives reigned. They still reign when it comes to TV programs, hosts, national media outlets, particularly ABC, CBS, NBC. Not one of those networks comes close to expressing right wing views. If this ridiculous doctrine ever becomes reality we WILL force those stations to make a serious right turn, think about that and chew on it. Change will be imment for left wing everything because they can’t stand right wing talk radio.
The reason there are so few left wing shows on radio is because they left wing does not listen to radio. It takes discipline they do not have and thats a fact! Air America should have thrived if they were really interested in left wing radio (you guys call it progressive, I call it what it really is). They literally went broke because the left wing didn’t bother listening so they couldn’t see advertising. Enough said. You will NEVER force left wing radio on those of us who listen to it, we get enough of that in movies, on television, and in the nightly news….now congress too.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:58 pmI used to complain about the liberal mainstream media. Then I woke up and realized that all I had to do was turn it off. On the flip side, if you don’t like the conservative information streams, don’t tune in. It’s that simple. As a conservative, I only listen to those sources that agree with my point of view and ignore the rest. Why would a conservative torture themselves listening to the likes of Katie Couric, Brian Williams, Charles Gibson, Jim Lehrer, Little George Stephanopoulos, Tim Russert, et al, when they can avoid the acid reflux and watch Fox News or listen to Rush Limbaugh? Or, turn them all off and read a book.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:58 pmPeople listen to conservative talk radio because that is what 90% of them want to hear. It’s called a market – stupid! Air America went under because it had it had no listeners! It’s all about the listeners – not the message. Not that Air America didn’t have a message, it did. It’s just that not enough people wanted to listen to it. It’s the listeners that drive the content of what is aired. The only way to make your make message effective is to make it mandatory for people to listen to it. I won’t. There is nothing positive in the progressive agenda at all. I find the progressive agenda to be nothing but doom and gloom bad news delivered in a negative fashion. the progressive point of view is nothing but negativity. So, all you progressive Hitler Youth listen up! You can air you damn progressive drivel – nobody has to listen to it. Radio will always be about the listeners – not the message.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:59 pmHey moron. No one is affraid of the ‘fairness doctrine’ what were afraid of is nothing to listen to for 8 hours a day while they put on a view no one wants to hear.
How about a fairness doctrine that says your favorite rock radio station must play equal hours of country music every day? Or worse, DISCO. For every hour of rock, you must play 1 hour of disco, therefore you serve the whole area… How’s that?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:59 pmGreat, now what do you talk about for the next 2hrs 50 minutes?
Comment by David Staats — June 20, 2007 @ 9:57 pm
How you’re so st*pid, you think your post actually had anything worth saying? That’s a good start – dum bass.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:59 pmYour Bush wants ‘amnesty for illegals’ and open the borders! Is he ‘progressive’ to?
June 20th, 2007 at 9:59 pmTypical liberal, oh,excuse me, “progressive” claptrap. You can’t win in the marketplace so you want the Government to shut conservative talk radio off. You’re all alike. Run to “Mommy & Daddy” when you can’t get your way. You all practice group speak and can’t tolerate other opinions and thoughts. In fact I can safely say the following: The more “progressive/liberal” you are; the more you want to control others speech and thought. The PC Police are ruining free speech and thought and you guys are their champions.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:59 pmFor christs sake.. I listen to NPR for the majority of my day.. and when I’m at lunch I listen to Rush.. I feel that this gives me a good viewpoint from the right and left.. if I feel that I need to dig deeper I will go to the internets..
The day that the federal government feels that I’m too fucking stupid to process the information given to me from the various media outlets, and they need to regulate it, is the day we no longer live in a free country.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:00 pmBig city newspapers (most of whom are liberal) and general-interest magazines (Time, Newsweek) are not doing well in advertising pages and revenue. The 5-6:30pm local news is usually the highest priced advertising on a local network-affiliated station, and very profitable. That’s why local evening news has grown from 30 to 90 minutes.
“Conservative” talk is a very new radio format. Until a few years ago, music was almost all there was on radio, even lesser-quality AM. Technology made possible the syndicated 50% free barter business model, and “talk” is inexpensive to produce. I think you need to go back to Marshall McLuhan “The Medium is the Message” to figure out why radio is conducive to conservative messages, and newspaper is conducive to liberal messages.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:00 pmTake away the outrageous liberal bias of the mainstream media (NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, PBS, NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times, and all the rest) and conservative radio as an alternative medium would dry up overnight. The main reason Air America is a miserable failure is that there’s too much competition from other liberal media outlets. In a very real sense, Ted Turner and CNN unwittingly created Rush Limbaugh — not Clear Channel nor even Limbaugh himself.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:00 pmPeople listen to conservative talk radio because that is what 90% of them want to hear. It’s called a market – stupid! Air America went under because it had it had no listeners! It’s all about the listeners – not the message. Not that Air America didn’t have a message, it did. It’s just that not enough people wanted to listen to it. It’s the listeners that drive the content of what is aired. The only way to make your make message effective is to make it mandatory for people to listen to it. I won’t. There is nothing positive in the progressive agenda at all. I find the progressive agenda to be nothing but doom and gloom bad news delivered in a negative fashion. the progressive point of view is nothing but negativity. So, all you progressive Hitler Youth listen up! You can air you damn progressive drivel – nobody has to listen to it. Radio will always be about the listeners – not the message. Comment by DeWayne Currier — June 20, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
You mean like the Conservative Nazi Youth only wanted to hear propaganda, instead of the *socialists* in the media? You wingnut nazis are all the same. A bunch of projecting, knuckle dragging *ssh*les.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:01 pmThat means all colleges need to be more fair, TV and newspapers. Liberals just want it all. Talk radio is the only place where these people cannot get there propaganda out. I love it.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:01 pmThis attempts to pass for critical thinking?! The report is biased and nearly brain dead at the same time. How they pulled that off is the real question. Do something meaningful and work for intellectual and religious freedom. This report is drivel of the worst kind.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:02 pmThe liberal blogs degenerate to name calling.
Comment by muckdog
Coming from you, that’s rich. Do you want me to post all the times you’ve name-called on this site? Get real.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:02 pmIt is clear that as soon as Hillary is President she should take over all the state radio stations, only allow progressive talk and shut down all private stations!
Just like the glorious leader Hugo Chavez.
In addition Shut down any private television stations that fail to promote a progressive agenda, and take over all the public airwaves.
Then those on the right can be rounded up and put in camps to learn how to be as tolerant and free thinking as we are.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:02 pmTake away the outrageous liberal bias of the mainstream media (NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, PBS, NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times, and all the rest) and conservative radio as an alternative medium would dry up overnight. The main reason Air America is a miserable failure is that there’s too much competition from other liberal media outlets. In a very real sense, Ted Turner and CNN unwittingly created Rush Limbaugh — not Clear Channel nor even Limbaugh himself. Comment by Bill H — June 20, 2007 @ 10:00 pm
Take out your bias, reverse your statements, and we have reality. Another projecting NeoNazi youth…
June 20th, 2007 at 10:02 pm“Progressive” isn’t that another word for “Liberal”? So this liberal think tank figures the liberal message isn’t being heard enough. Not because people are tired of hearing it and prefer to hear the conservative voice, but “it’s a conspiracy” to silent the “progressives”.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:02 pmJust another example of trying to intill Liberalism through legislation.
If the liberal/progressive message was delivered in an appealing fashion and it had some thread of appeal to the listener, then it would be growing and not so small.
once again, those who tout the fairness doctrine show their true colors. they don’t want to have to work at selling their product like real business people do, so they have to cry foul again and again, only to be shot down by the fact that they can not ever ever ever get enough ratings to stay on the air. maybe if they stopped constantly saying bs like gw hates black people and was personally responsible for katrina, christians are the real terrorists and there is no God, they would actually get some ratings and more than 3 people other than taxpayer funded liberal professors would listen to them. but what would I know? I fall into the RICH part of society, paying such ridiculous taxes with my small business that I only make 30,000 per year with a family and 6 employees. Where are they sticking up for me?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:02 pmThe airwaves belong to the people. Middle America loves talk radio see latest gallup poll Congress at all time low 14%……it’s freedom of speech and free enterprise rolled into one.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:02 pmRadio Free Ameria bombed………….many radio pundits target Bush as inept as well…..
the Fairness doctrine is an attack on free speech.
Unless the radio stations get regulated, the people will have to take matters into their own hands. 1000’s of stations all run by the racist, white-owned Clear Channel? Hell no, my friends, we’ll pull the towers down and take over the stations just like they have to do in the ‘3rd’ world.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:03 pmThat means all colleges need to be more fair, TV and newspapers. Liberals just want it all. Talk radio is the only place where these people cannot get there propaganda out. I love it. Comment by Logic and reason — June 20, 2007 @ 10:01 pm
Pure projection, from the wingnut nazis that just “want it all”, especially all of talk radio and cable!
June 20th, 2007 at 10:03 pmLeave it to liberals (aka – the “progressives”) to attempt to stifle the free marketplace to make the radio airwaves more “fair” for the listeners. This whole “progressive” concept is completely laughable, but also not surprising either. Keep it up…keep the rest of us laughing and shaking our heads.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:03 pmYou want more time barfly?
EARN IT?
How?
THE FREE MARKETPLACE.
It’s not our fault libs can’t compete in talk radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:04 pmI will be waiting for the same scrutiny to be leveled towards main stream tv news, can they explain why CNN regularly puts stories in their headlines news that is nothing more than memoes from the DNC, then backed up by angry democrats attacking republicans? Or howabout the several times I’ve seen Media Matters talking points on CNN or MSNBC as “news” stories, attack Fox news all you want, but I’ve never seen them air anything so one sided, without at least soemoen to respond or at least even the anchor offering a differing opinion.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:04 pmThis is pure left wing politics. AM radio was DEAD, no one wanted it. That’s how conservatives ended up there. They couldn’t get their voice heard on ABCNBCCBSNYTIMESWASHPOST. They had one voice, and that’s liberal. Conservatives HAD to move to AM radio. That’s why they’re the only ones successful there. If you want to hear liberals, all you have to do is turn on the TV or pick up the newspapers. Yes, things are a little more balanced now, with Fox News and Wash Times, but it’s still slanted about 90/10 against conservatives.
The problem with liberals, is they think they’re the tolerant ones, but they’re the first to try to shut out the other voice. College students yelling down or attacking conservative speakers, trying to pass a “fairness (what a joke) doctrine, and political correctness are just a few examples.
I’m not a conservative, I’m a Perot type Independent. I can stand back and see this from both sides. Liberals really should just keep quite and grin about the dominance they hold over the American (world) media.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:04 pmWhat will you racist white men do when the stations no longer cater to your commerical franchises? When 50% of the stations will be En Espanol? Eh, vatos?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:04 pmThis report — and the proposals — could’ve been written by Hugo Chavez and his government. Don’t like what the opposition is saying on the airwaves? Well, let’s shut them down!
June 20th, 2007 at 10:04 pmUnless the radio stations get regulated, the people will have to take matters into their own hands. 1000’s of stations all run by the racist, white-owned Clear Channel? Hell no, my friends, we’ll pull the towers down and take over the stations just like they have to do in the ‘3rd’ world. Comment by AztlanLiberator — June 20, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
Another one of Valiant’Venus’ NeoNazis, thinking he’s *funny*. You do realize wingnuts, that liberals don’t know or care who Aztlan is – except when you talk radio f*ckers post something about them. Right? Loser?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:04 pmSince the Evening “News”, CNN and MSNBC are 100% liberal content, I say we start with them first.
Liberals are dumbfu*ks
June 20th, 2007 at 10:05 pmIt has nothing to do with right or left views. It has to do with money , the advertisers money. Left slanted talk shows garner very small ratings and therefore eventually make little to no money for the owners of the station. If the far left really wants equality on the air, then shut up and piss your money down the drain. It’s a niche segment that advertiers shun because of the controversial nature that goes against even moderate liberals, let alone the rest of the country and it doesn’t help them sell their products. Advertsing is about showing a ROI on the company investment. Advertisers/companies are accountable to share holders. People like you and me. I don’t know about you ,but I want the money in my 401K to get a return, not make statement.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:05 pmI knew it, Dems back in control and the Fairness Doctrine comes back. I know this may sound impossible, but maybe these liberal talk news shows fail because radio is not very big with the targeted audience. In other words no one wants to listen to it. Rush has 12 million listeners a day, how can you say thats the result of structural unfairness or whatever it was. So this structure (substitute ambiguous lefty boogyman here) or man, calls all us and and tells us to tune in? Not all conservative talk shows succeed, you want to know why, they are not very good. How about the left finds a good talk show host instead of its current crop, and maybe they will get some listeners. How about they also study all other forms of news media and find all the “conservative” bias in those, perhaps because they already know and are fine with those results. Get some objectivity and maybe someone will listen to this crap.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:05 pm“Talk radio is the only place where these people cannot get there propaganda out. I love it.”
Comment by Logic and reason — June
So did Lush Limpdick ever say anything critical about Drones of Death or Mobile Biological Weapons Labs? How’d that work for you, and your “unbiased” source?
You’re happy with feel-good propaganda – I already got that part.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:06 pmI listen to nothing but AM. Home or on the road, I tune up the dial until I find something entertaining. That’s how I discovered personality radio on WLS back in the early 70s, Don Imus in the 80s, Rush in the 90s, and Glen Beck now. Liberal or conservative, it doesn’t matter to me. Just produce a quality show that entertains me and I will listen. That’s how radio works.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:06 pmThe problem with liberals, is they think they’re the tolerant ones, but they’re the first to try to shut out the other voice. College students yelling down or attacking conservative speakers, trying to pass a “fairness (what a joke) doctrine, and political correctness are just a few examples.
I’m not a conservative, I’m a Perot type Independent. I can stand back and see this from both sides. Liberals really should just keep quite and grin about the dominance they hold over the American (world) media.
Comment by Kevin — June 20, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
NO Kevin, you are a conservative idiot. When many major markets have 0% liberal talk radio content, you talk about liberals being the ones that want to shut out other voices?
You’re a projecting fool.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:06 pmNo more dodge ball in schools , people may get hurt or not be very good and that would be unfair. We must be sensitive to them….
2+2 does not equal 4 anymore. Some of the students might not grasp this and this would be inherently unfair. 2+2 now equals whatever they want it to be….
Liberal talk radio can’t survive because no one wants to hear it but that is unfair….
See a trend here?
Communisim failed guys. The Free-Market has spoken.
Side note: Any program manager would put on liberal talk show host if he could be profitable. No audience…no advertisers. Has Al Franken been paid yet?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:07 pmThe reason why liberal talk on the radio has been failing is because people don’t want to listen to hate speech 24/7. Have any of you listened to Air America? My God. It’s just non stop hate. Along with nutty conspiracy theories. I was listening to Randi Rhodes the other day, and she said that Republicans were behind the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, and Martin Luther King. She also said that Ted Kennedy wasn’t even in the car during Chappaquiddick.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:07 pmProgressive or right wing. I know left wing doesn’t sound as positive but this is an early indicator there is a hidden agenda. If there was a business case for left wing talk radio ‘Air America’ proved the public doesn’t support it. The decline of network news, with its continued bias against anything conservative is another indicator the message doesn’t resonate.
In the end, the ‘loony left’ message can’t compete so they resort to their last hope for survival – government regulation or the courts.
Those who can’t compete – regulate.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:08 pmJust face it, Liberal (Progressive or whatever you want to call it), talk radio does not seem to be a viable marketable product. Like everything else, follow the money. If they could sell advertising time under the likes of Al Franken, then there would be tons of progressive shows on the air instead of just the Bay area. I say let the people have the freedom to listem to what they want. Don’t FORCE people to listen to stuff they do not want to. I guess individual freedom is good, unless it is not in line with what Liberals want…
June 20th, 2007 at 10:08 pmNothing here surprises me on the absolute brash thuggery of the left tangent – aka “leeburells” as they like to call themselves.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:08 pmSpend some time in uniform , serve your country , go to foreign lands…you might just see your isolatioist socialisim is patently wrong. Remember Truman & FDR…both campaigned on “not our war” , and guess what they both new it was coming and waited for the socialist bags to attack us first and rode their mighty and righteous horse pretty quickly ( as it was already prepared by them ).
Anyhow I digress , and as well the goofy left of center’s digression is heartening. When the clintonistas and their ilk actually see the real harsh world – at the very least make it known to the people that overall this is a socially brutal planet. But such facts don’t work in their utopian grandeur of poppycock speeches to grab our monies to fund lethargic types across the country. Rob peter to pay paul…sound familiar ?.
Shorter Freedomlover: equal time for opposing views is censorship!
He wants self-reinforcing pablum!
June 20th, 2007 at 10:09 pmI listen to nothing but AM. Home or on the road, I tune up the dial until I find something entertaining. That’s how I discovered personality radio on WLS back in the early 70s, Don Imus in the 80s, Rush in the 90s, and Glen Beck now. Liberal or conservative, it doesn’t matter to me. Just produce a quality show that entertains me and I will listen. That’s how radio works.
What you forget is the systemic racism in the ownership of these stations and in the advertising decisions they make. If I’m a racist white owner of a station and all my buddies are too, we can shape the market by only catering to a segment of the population. Hispanics comprise almost a fifth of the population but one out of 5 stations isn’t geared toward our programming.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:09 pmWait- How can anyone be so stupid as to want to limit the freedom of speech, whether it is live in the town square, in a village meeting or on the airwaves?
So you don’t like the broadcast mix that maximizes the profits of the media companies? Rush, Sean and Glenn say things you don’t like? So your response is to try to use government rules and regs to shut them down? Harry and Nancy would love to help , too.
What happens when your favorite politicians aren’t in power? “Oh, we’ll just change the rules back” If that’s what you thought, you are a naive fool.
You don’t want to limit speech if you are convinced your ideas are sound and you are speaking the truth. Frankly, I am disgusted that it is my side of the spectrum that seems inclined to do this.
Can you say, “Oh yes, I’ll leave myself wide open to charges of hypocrisy and censorship?”
Let the conservatives spend six hours a day high-fiving to Rush and Sean. That’s six hours where they can’t be doing more damage.
Do you really think that censorship is the answer? Hello, McFly! McFly?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:09 pmNO Kevin, you are a conservative idiot. When many major markets have 0% liberal talk radio content, you talk about liberals being the ones that want to shut out other voices?
You’re a projecting fool.
Man, again, let’s all take a look at economics 101… No money = NO SHOW. If liberal talk could generate REVENUE, IT WOULD BE ALL OVER THE RADIO EVERYWHERE LIKE Conservative talk is.. Its not ROCKET SCIENCE, ITS BASIC ECONOMICS M0R0N.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:10 pmDude. Are you drunk or what? My comment was in regard to Jihad. He’s an obvious troll. Most of the posts you’ve made haven’t even made any sense. It’s like random words strung together in the semblance of a nearly grammatically correct sentence. And that’s about it.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:11 pmSgt., No doubt about it – we live in an age of sound bites that both liberals and conservatives use to advance their agendas. Unfortunately, I wish you were right about talk radio; however, in my own experience, what you suggest is true hasn’t been the case. Talk radio is full of commercials, short-calls (which are often abruptly cut-off due to time constraints), and less-than-a-minute segments. Perhaps it isn’t the way of thinking that’s flawed as much as it is simply the medium that makes it appear that way.
As for me, I prefer reading my news commentary from print and web editorials. In the age of mass media, it seems that the art of being able to write out a well-formulated, well-argued, cogent editorial is being lost by our pundits. And maybe it’s not the writing that’s being lost so much as the desire to read is becoming a forgotten virtue. Either way, in my opinion, the loss is an unfortunate by-product of an overly commercialized culture.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:11 pmThis is the most short-sighted report I’ve seen on the state of US media. Proposing limits on the market responding to the desires of its customers is destructive, unethical and smacks of desperateness. If the left wing can’t change the dominance of right wing by selling a worthwhile product to customers, then they turn to regulation and coercive law. This proposal combined with the “Fairness Doctrine” infringes on individuals’ right to own property, as well as the First Amendment. Consider the law (and the Constitution) when evaluating what these proposals will mean. They’re not unprecedented–the First Amendment gets violated all of the time–but they push the shift toward total state-run media further. Any rational-thinking person should be against this plan and what its implementation would mean de facto. “Ownership diversity” will happen when a diverse set of station, network and program owners emerge and create value for potential customers. My advice to the left in this case is to create appealing content. Then people will tune in. Until then, don’t turn to gaming law and limiting freedom even further.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:11 pmNow that this study is complete, I would like to see a similar study regarding the lack of fairness and diversity of our college professors. It is high time to get some balance going at our schools, and eliminate the liberal stranglehold and indoctrination that has been going on for years. Fariness……’I'm all over it!
June 20th, 2007 at 10:11 pmI used to consider myself liberal…then I went to the right and this year I left the party because frankly Bush is leading it to hell in a handbasket.
Having said that the fact of the matter still remains that yes there is other liberal talk on radio. NPR frankly isn’t that bad…PBS isn’t either when you consider it has some of the best HDTV programming (I’m a big fan of the World channel…it has Deutch Welle a few times a week)
I don’t like the commericalization of the networks but the answer isn’t to say limit it because we’ve already sold off the licenses. Going after certain types of speech is censorship.
Ever listen to shortwave? You can sware up and down and say whatever you want…FCC can’t do jack. You find far far more progressive talk there but few want to know about it. How about podcasting which people can download?
Ever hear of FTA tv ? FTA tv basically is the way the rest of the world gets tv…it’s a large dish…why not make a channel there and put it up for free? You can do audio or video…heck Al Gore made the Current TV channel what it is now.
Don’t censor…just fire back with more stations and more content…
June 20th, 2007 at 10:11 pmComment by Thomas Doggett
Why are you “brave conservatives” so scared of equal time? It’s pathetic, given how much you guys trumpet your superiority.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:11 pmSpudge boy, go screw your gay liberal self. It’s time for a revolution in this country. It’s time for true conservatives to take charge and import the liberals and the illegals all in one punch. The first thing I want to do is for Jimmy Carter to eat sh!t and choke on it! I would laugh like a Palestinian dancing in the street during 9/11.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:12 pmWhat part of fairness don’t you people understand? It’s equal time, not just liberal or conservative… equal time! What is so wrong about a level playing field? Everyone keeps talking about the market, the market, the market! Well, don’t you already admit that parts of the free-market are proven to be racist? That’s why we had to have the civil rights movement. So no, the market can’t be trusted to be equal and fair.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:12 pmsquegeebooo: It’s not dead air, it’s a stuck record playing “Bush sucks.”
June 20th, 2007 at 10:12 pmIt’s strange that 98%+ of newspapers are decidedly “liberal” and yet the CAFAP doesn’t seem concerned. 100% of the major TV networks are “liberal” yet this too seems ok. But when conservatives make inroads in one of the few media forms available, it is suddenly a crime. Wait until the CAFAP fascists start attacking the internet.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:12 pmHave another, barfly. Maybe you’ll start making sense. Unless you’ve had too much.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:13 pmjust as i would become very bored and soon turn the dial from “progressive” radio,…the rantings of a bunch a fascist robots like
June 20th, 2007 at 10:13 pmvalientanus have made me tired,….i think ill go clean my guns or something more productive
Could you imagine a college football program that is a pathetic loser saying, USC should have some of their scholarships stripped because they’re beating us. Give us some of their scholarships and give them to us, it’s not fair. Boo Hoo Hoo
If the left had any talented broadcasters and thinkers, the great Air America would have big ratings. The American people like conservative talk radio, and those of you on the left hate that fact.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:13 pmTrolls? what do you mean? I write and read this blog daily/
June 20th, 2007 at 10:14 pmConservative Radio Hoey?
We’ll soon put a stop to that!
June 20th, 2007 at 10:14 pmLiberals and conservatives favor different media. Within the same medium, liberals and conservatives favor different shows. In markets that are more liberal, liberal media and shows do better. In markets that are more conservative, conservative media and shows do better. Most managers of the media are conservative, but most creative personnel in the media are liberal. Government regulation is not only pointless it is harmful to society in the long run. Extremists on both sides (equally as far as I can tell) resort to “hate” rhetoric because they are too emotionally invested in their beliefs to empathize with those on the other side. They seek out other people and media who agree with them and avoid those who don’t, causing a feedback loop that only reinforces their exclusive views. The best strategy is to diversify, pay attention to both conservative and liberal media, engage both conservative and liberal people, and filter out the unsupported nonsense from both extremes.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:14 pmThe fact is that conservative talk radio makes money by atracting and keeping listeners. Air America – corrupt and incompetent – burned through millions of dollars – some of it stolen from a children’s charity – but couldn’t produce entertaining talk radio. If you get your way, all that will happen is that stations will switch to brokered time or go dark.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:14 pmNo comment on Air America’s dismal failure, despite the huge setup from the mainstream media when it started.
Commercial radio stations don’t have to be “fair,” any more than the New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, CNN, CBS, ABC and the other news organizatons have to be “fair.”
The major difference between talk radio and those mentioned above is that talk radio doesn’t pretend to be balanced. Talk show hosts take a position and go from there. Air America tried it, and flopped. Most Americans don’t want to listen to Liberal Radio.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:15 pmThey have tried to do lib radios shows. It doesn’t work because most liberals aren’t smart enough to understand anything that is said anyway, so they don’t listen and the shows are cancelled. Liberals don’t care enough about anything to listen to radio, all they care about is to support anything that creates a situation where they might not have to work. Then they can get government payouts on many different fronts. That makes them happy. They are all a bunch of unpatriotic morons. It’s a shame that we have to deal with them at all.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:15 pm“Are you drunk or what? My comment was in regard to Jihad. He’s an obvious troll.”
Anyone else think that Spudge_Boy is now ValientAnus? And…. maybe we could at least ignore Jihadi? Trolls only live if fed. Let’s stop feeding him [yes - I know - I just threw him a tidbit].
Comment by Daniel
You were referencing Spudgeboy, liar. Is this the best you can do, troll?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:15 pm“Why are you “brave conservatives†so scared of equal time? It’s pathetic, given how much you guys trumpet your superiority.”
Again, NO ONE IS AFFRAID, NO ONE JUST WANTS TO HEAR IT. If it had a market, it would be a show.. That simple…
What’s the problem with that idea? Ok, from now on, Barfly, stay off the booze, and you must sit and watch O channel, or LOGO. For every hour you watch ESPN, or FSN, you must now watch equal time of ‘Masterpiece theather’, or you can’t watch TV.. How’s that workin for ya.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:15 pmLiberal = stupid
June 20th, 2007 at 10:15 pmLiberal = lazy
Liberal = coward
Nobody wants to listen to any of their crap all day. When you have a message that people want to hear, you will have more radio play. Advertisers go where the audience goes. This would not be discussed if Air America could get anyone to listen to their shows. Al Franken can never have the audience of Limbaugh or Hannity. It isn’t possible even with a communist fairness doctrine. Air America had the unfair advantage of being started simultaneously on many stations. Limbaugh started on one station and more stations picked the show up as its popularity grew. Air America will never have the kind of popularity that the conservative hosts have. That is why they are bankrupt and always will be.
I say you like government radio, take from Borat, government radio suck like old soviet mule. Programming same old song: government good to peasant class, government give cheese to peasant class. Problem only is that cheese sucks worse than mule.
Take advice from Borat; let every person speak like way they want. If you like not, then listen not, OK?
Borat is done.
Viva Reagan. Boo to Kruschev. Nasty man.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:16 pmTim- Believing the neocon propaganda again? Show me pictures of Palestinians dancing on 9/11. I can show pictures of American bombs killing innocent Palestinian children. Blood on you hands?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:16 pmI did not even know you guys existed. (thank God) Until all thought is policed and the free market eliminated, the new pop culture haters-of-America will not be satisfied. I find it ironic that the “free thinkers” of the 60’s and the “no rules” individuals of the 60’s are now the most restrictive people this country has ever known since its inception. You guys are the new “book burners” of the new millennium. Scary! Watch the replies to conservative commentaries and feel the hate…..its incredible how dangerous your supporters are.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:16 pmLib radio doesn’t work, because a 30 second sound bite doesn’t consitute a conversation, and can’t fill 4 hours…
June 20th, 2007 at 10:17 pm“And when students are forced to associate with educated people, they also become educated – and liberal. Your example is laughable.”
You mean when students are brainwashed by liberal professors who could not make it in the business sector. Please, I used to teach at a university. You will have to do better than that. I also have a graduate degree in engineering. There were no liberals in my graduating class, they all flunked out. Too busy smoking pot to thin. That is no lie, it is a fact.
To equate being educated with being a liberal in itself is so telling of your mentality. You have a superiority complex, just like every other lib I have ever known. Once again I will put my I.Q. against the likes of you ANY DAY! Liberal i= socialist i= progressive. Name ANY country who has ever PROSPERED under socialism. You can’t because there has never been one in the history of man. Get a job hippie.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:17 pmThis is another John Podesta ‘ I can’t get a real job so I will continue to beg for money from the Clinton’s” report.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:18 pmIt’s a simple issue of supply and demand. Liberal talk radio is just boring where conservative talk radio is more dynamic. The liberals still have the television market cornered by probably the same margin so they should quit complaining and put on someone who is actually entertaining to listen to.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:18 pmliberals still dont get it … liberals dominate visual media … its easy to fool the unsuspecting dolts with heart felt deceptive pictures to promote their causes … talk radio requires you to think to be engaged … the thinking person isn’t easily fooled … listen to a liberal radio host and most americans find out they are conservatives … they dont believe in liberal approaches to solving issues … ask any liberal running for office to admit they are liberal … dont hold your breath … admitting your a liberal is a death nel for national offices … i dare you admit you want to raise taxes … admit you want abortion on demand up until the 9th month … admit you want gay marriage … admit you want government run healthcare … or are you afraid to stand for what you believe … if liberal ideas had any merit .. they would dominate talk radio too
June 20th, 2007 at 10:19 pmHave another, barfly. Maybe you’ll start making sense. Unless you’ve had too much.
Comment by Banjo
So threatened by the concept of equal time. Is this really the best you fools can muster?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:19 pmHey Freedom Lover, it’s incredible how imbecilic your supporters are. You come on to this blog with all your phony names and troll it up with consevative hate. Hahaha, you think you can run the internet like Clear Channel but we’ve got the whole country behind us loser. Check those election results from last November
June 20th, 2007 at 10:19 pmWhy are they hiding behind “progressive”? Why don’t they say what they mean – liberal? Because that would betray their “study.” The American public doesn’t like or want liberal; the last election proved that, when the Democrats had to run conservatives to win the House and Senate.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:19 pmMore importantly, why doesn’t the study include the liberal domination of the so-called mainstream media. The evening news; most major newspapers, including the Washington Post, NYT, LAT, and Boston Globe; two of the three major cable news channels – all liberal. Or should I say progressive – don’t want the public to know what we really mean, right?
“What part of fairness don’t you people understand? It’s equal time, not just liberal or conservative… equal time! What is so wrong about a level playing field?”
The playing field is level because anyone (conservative or liberal) can invest in a station to ait their views (actually it’s not really balanced because the left is the only position that gets airtime paid for by the federal governemt ala PBS and NPS) Lasty, who all do you give equal time to? Neo-Nazis? Facists? The KKK?
It amazes me how anyone can want the federal government to dictate what people say short of obscenity…
June 20th, 2007 at 10:19 pmIdiots!. It is 91 % conservative because the majority of those listening want to hear that view. radio does what sells and ‘progressive’ radio does not sell. look at air america. now do a survey and see how much ‘mainstream’ media is leftist – such as NPR, PBS, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, CNN. Outside of Fox, all of them are ‘progressive’ . that is the sole reason conservative radio works. get a clue and take your socialist agenda back to mother russia
June 20th, 2007 at 10:20 pmThis is another John Podesta ‘ I can’t get a real job so I will continue to feed at the Clinton trough” report.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:20 pmHow about we just force the stations to play musical tributes to the democratic party for half the day? I am sure you “progressives” can get some pointers from North Korea on media control.
Why stop at radio? I think half of all newspaper articles should represent the opposite viewpoint. You can have the left hand ink of the NY Times and conservatives can take the right side. Deal?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:20 pmwe all have the right to say what we want. If I want to start a newspaper, radio station, or web site pushing one world view I should have every right to do so. It is not “unfair” if less than half of America or less than half of one specific type of media supports a view opposed to yours. This is a democracy, and the answer to different opinions is not censorship. You cannot force someone else to espouse your views on an issue. This is not a totalitarian state.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:21 pmGo to alsaher.com and link to Palestinian pictures. Awful but true, not neocon propganda.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:21 pmIf there’s a demand for liberal talk radio, why did Air America crash and burn so badly?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:21 pmWhat’s happening in this wondrful coumtry of ours would have been unthinkable years ago. It sounds like we might be losing our freedoms little by little. What happened to our National Pride? and for that matter following the laws of this land. If you don’t adhere to them then this isn’t the place for you to live. I’m shocked and dismayed over tha fact that we could allow people to enter this conutry illegally and not even want to become part of the maistream society, and receive all the amenities of an American citizen. I’m so glad my poor Italian immigrant Father didn’t live to see this day. He was so proud to be in America when he was a child in the 1920’s. They would do just about anything to assimilate and be part of this wonderful proud culture. Something not right is happpening to our culture in this country with greed, big business, the entertainment industry, and most importantly our National pride in D.C. What’s the solution? is there one? What kind of country will my grandchildren be living in. Will there still be pride in this counrty. And will there ever really be peace on earth? Lets be realistic here! If you don’t like talk radio TURN IT OFF! NEXT!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 10:21 pm91% Conservative, because thats what we want to hear.!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 10:21 pmRadio is paid for by advertisers. There is already a market for “low end” consumers who listen to music. There wass no market for educated “high end” consumers until talk radio. Their advertisers sell higher end goods. Equalizing radio by making it more liberal would drive stations out of business b/c it would attract the low end consumer there are already a market for. It is economics. Conservative talk radio is successful b/c it is economically smart. Liberal stations would be out of business in a month.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:22 pmSo what’s it like to be a bunch of oppresive Communist pukes trying to silence the American voice?
How close into the future do you plan to imprison and torture people for speaking up for what is good?
YOU GUYS SUCK!
June 20th, 2007 at 10:22 pm“So threatened by the concept of equal time. Is this really the best you fools can muster?”
You’re the one who’s threatened by freedom. All you seem to want is your “Ministry of Truth” to control what people can see/hear.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:22 pmI think all radio listeners should be required to think the same by wearing headphones specially designed to filter out opposing points of view.
Or, maybe we should ban all radios and all talk shows.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:22 pmAnn, you mean that national pride is ok if Palestinians die and not you white Italians?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:22 pmYour site is obviously liberal, which means that, like all fascists, you need to regulate what everyone else says. You have CNN, ABC, CBS, NBS, NPR, CSPAN, the New York Times, etc. You dominate television and newpapers and you want to take radio as well? Rightly then you are called facsists. Taking lessons from Hugo Chavez? He’s a left wing “progessive” as well. He wants to regulate speech through the government. I suggest that anyone who doubts left wing media bias review research by Dartmouth professor Jim A. Kuypers. Start here:
June 20th, 2007 at 10:23 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_A._Kuypers
Does this mean NPR’s programming will no longer be dedicated to broadcasting DNC talking points?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:23 pmkeep the rest of us laughing and shaking our heads.
Comment by Kirk
Uh, isn’t a little hard to shake your head when it’s up your butt, Kirk? Or is that why guys like you just love to “….S-s-shake your booty…”??
June 20th, 2007 at 10:23 pmHey waddayaknow, joe blow
June 20th, 2007 at 10:23 pmI understand people want a place for liberal viewpoints. But can’t we all agree that Al Franken is a talentless douchebag?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:23 pmAgain, NO ONE IS AFFRAID, NO ONE JUST WANTS TO HEAR IT. If it had a market, it would be a show.. That simple…
If you’re not afraid, why must you use caps? You seem to be intent on changing the subject away from the fairness doctrine. That is a tell – it tells me you are afraid that, were the fairness doctrine in place, your ideas could not stand up to open debate. Spin it any way you want, but I can see you vitrually sweating at the concept.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:24 pmBorat say also progressive radio boring as 2 week vacation in Siberia in February. Would rather prefer to be eaten by polar bear than listen to Al Franken-furter on AA
Borat is done.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:24 pmMaybe we should move on to sports. I feel that we should force all media outlets to give equal time to every team in a given sport. It’ll make Super Bowl coverage more interesting. We could even go further than just radio stations. We could monitor individuals and make sure they gave equal time in their conversations to the right and left. You have to vote half and half on your ticket?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:25 pmLadies and gentlemen, the Senator from minnesota… .AL FRANKEN! Get ready republican boobs, he’ll be standing next to Reid when the fairness doctrine is passed.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:25 pmQuid me vexari
June 20th, 2007 at 10:26 pmI live in Iowa City, IA..a bastion of liberalism…Democrats have held control of this county for nearly 40 years..
The local radio station here..began earlier in 2007 broadcasting Air America programming.. Guess what happened??
The ratings for this station PLUMMETTED…ad revenues tanked….and guess what..the Air America programming was taken off the air quickly.
So..why hasn’t “progressive” or “liberal” or “Democrat” talk radio worked?? Simple…its been a failure! So..the “progressives” have run back to their standard operating proceedures to demand that the goverment run yet another aspect of American life…
June 20th, 2007 at 10:26 pm“You seem to be intent on changing the subject away from the fairness doctrine”
You seem to be commited to your “Ministry of Truth.” Better put a telescreen in everyone’s home so you can dictate what they think as well as hear.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:27 pmOoooh I have a good idea! Let’s exercise freedom of speech until the Liberals take to more aggressive action and imprision all free thinkers! Yea! Perhaps they would love to build old Soviet style prisons for speaking out against them, the “Liberals”!
God forbid Americans stand for freedom in their own country! It might PISS OFF A LIBERAL SOCIALIST PIG.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:27 pmWhat will be the opposite view point for ‘Fresh Air’ on NPR? Stale air? Will they have to start running shows that talk about things we all know and could care less about as part of the ‘fairness doctrine’?
Loonbag Lefties already have 4 hours dedicated to themselves every night on Art Bell’s Coast to Coast AM.
There you can hear all the great gov’t conspiricies, how Bush personally pushed the detonator on the World Trade Center, and how Dick Cheyney is really a Space Alien from Andromeda here to help the assimilation of the human race by the BORG…
Do we really need more of this on the radio?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:27 pmThe Liberal government wants control to brain wash us all into believing that Conservatives are evil. They want everyone to believe that their way is the only way. Get a life and smell the coffee people. If the Liberals had their way we would have a Socialist government. NOT!!! I refuse to give my hard earned money to those who are to lazy to work or to those who are illegal!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 10:27 pmI see that the comments here got real ugly real fast. I’ll try to throw my two cents in about the the rightwing “control” of radio. I am in the free market will dictate what people want to listen to. Someone was arguing that the radio is a public resource because of the limited number of stations available on the bandwidth. That’s true, but it has not prevented people from buy existing radio stations. Where I live (in one of the top 50 radio markets) individuals have bought radio stations. Two or three have switched from music to religious stations. Another station is now broadcast in Spanish (and the city and surrounding area that I live in has a less than 5% Spanish speaking public). If these people can do it, why can’t a “liberal” who wants to broadcast programs that he wants? Seriously, government does not need to get involved.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:27 pm“Borat is done.”
You got that right. Quite well-cooked.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:27 pmOk, then lets let conservative Christians have equal time with the alphabet networks too. The news can be 15 minutes right, 15 minutes left. Evening shows can alternate. Sunday news can alternate. Cartoons can alternate. The let the sponsorship support what they want to, as should be in a free state. ok? This might really end up being a great day if this progressive idea SUCKseeds.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:28 pmNO Kevin, you are a conservative idiot. When many major markets have 0% liberal talk radio content, you talk about liberals being the ones that want to shut out other voices?
You’re a projecting fool.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:28 pmThree points:
1) Liberal radio was closed due to lack of funding.
2) The proposals here are to restrict the market based on law/police power.
3) Anyone who can get on the internet (which includes YOU if you are reading this), can listen to just about any radio station in the country (and most of the rest of the world too.) in about 4 clicks. Don’t tell me the door is not open for liberal radio. It is. It’s just that there aren’t enough people knocking.
Senator Al Franken? Yeah, good luck with that. In your dreams.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:28 pmAll I gotta say is that if this bull goes annywhere its “praise the lord and pass the ammunition time”
June 20th, 2007 at 10:28 pmProgressive Think Tank has now officially aligned themselves with opressive regimes such as socialism and communism. They want to outlaw what they dont like. Yet would be absolutely wigged out if we outlawed their fascist actions. By their actions they piss on our freedom fighters graves who fought for our capitalist free market society, against countries run by these very socialist and communist regimes…these folks are pure ego-maniacs who cant compete against conservatives in the realm of ideas…their only goal is control over you…where they have the power…and you dont. All their radio talk shows bomb, because they cant pull the ratings (because they have UNPOPULAR UNREALISTIC UNAMERICAN IDEAS (such as this one))and hence advertisers flock to the higher draw audiences, hence these folks inability to have an attractive relevant message is their real problem…but rather than fixing their nightmarish vision of the world to reflect reality, they want to outlaw the most free society the WORLD has ever seen…total arrogant pigs.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:29 pmLadies and gentlemen, the Senator from minnesota… .AL FRANKEN! Get ready republican boobs, he’ll be standing next to Reid when the fairness doctrine is passed.
Comment by AztlanLiberator
I agree w/ you Aztlan. BTW, do you know WHY the Fairness Doctrine was put in play in the first place? There is a very good reason, and apparently these Reichwing trogs don’t have a clue…
June 20th, 2007 at 10:29 pm“Again, NO ONE IS AFFRAID, NO ONE JUST WANTS TO HEAR IT. If it had a market, it would be a show.. That simple…”
“If you’re not afraid, why must you use caps? You seem to be intent on changing the subject away from the fairness doctrine. That is a tell – it tells me you are afraid that, were the fairness doctrine in place, your ideas could not stand up to open debate. Spin it any way you want, but I can see you vitrually sweating at the concept”
How is that moving away from the fairness doctrine? I believe its right to the point. Your comment is typical libpro common sense.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:29 pmBorat must know how to get date with Jeannine Godawfulho?
Someone have phone number?
Borat is done.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:30 pmHey Yes, so with equal time for christian conservatives, will there be a weekend creationism program? How about ‘Why stem cell research is evil’ or ‘Hunting with Dick Cheney’. All great ideas for you republican Bush lovers. For me, I think we need a little equal time on the Supreme court to balance it out.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:30 pmif such a law were actually passable, it would be thrown out by the court almost immediately for infringing on first amendment rights. Also I like ACLU progressives much better than the ones I have found here
June 20th, 2007 at 10:30 pmTo see the clearest example of just how biased, untruthful, and misleading this entire masquerade is, just look at the title and the lexicon. The writer of this piece of liberal propaganda doesn’t even have the strength of courage to use the term ‘liberal’ despite clearing being just that. Instead the author substitutes the term ‘progressive’. Who among us has heard anyone in the media refer to any leftist ideologue as ‘progressive’. Not even the far left side of the political spectrum uses that term. It’s clearly a blatant attempt to hide behind another false front. Typical liberal tactic. If you can’t sell it like it is, just repackage it under a different and better sounding name. In truth, flatulence stinks just the same no matter if you call it a fart or not.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:30 pmGod I love this country talk radio blogs the web…plenty of diversity of thought best left to the market forces.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:30 pmHow do then explain that in areas where liberal talk radio is available, listenership is absolute garbage? Even liberals don’t listen to liberal radio. Listenership, the true reflection of the public’s desires, is high as always. Whether liberals or conservatives own the radio stations, the listeners speak loud and clear and they do not care about liberal talk radio. Oh yeah, and they can’t even run a station without ruining it financially. Good job Air America! Lead from the front!
June 20th, 2007 at 10:30 pmStand and be count.I want talk radio that is were the real news is being told to the American citizens. And you should listen and pray daily. Thank you
June 20th, 2007 at 10:31 pmDo tell us Republic of Stupidity, for their enlightenment.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:31 pmYou write “There are many examples all across the country of liberal talk programs and/or whole station formats that did well with advertisers and got very good ratings, but were dumped in favor of lesser-performing formats, often into the face of direct competition in the markets.” – Where and with whom? Pacifica couldn’t get enough advertisers and NPR wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for government support.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:31 pmOoooh boy I have a good idea! Let’s exercise freedom of speech until the Liberals take to more aggressive action and imprision all free thinkers! Yea! Perhaps they would love to build old Russian style prisons for speaking out against them, the “Liberals”! God forbid Americans stand for freedom in their own country! It might PISS OFF A LIBERAL SOCIALIST PIG.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:31 pm“I agree w/ you Aztlan. BTW, do you know WHY the Fairness Doctrine was put in play in the first place? There is a very good reason, and apparently these Reichwing trogs don’t have a clue…”
Let’s see, what’s the definition of irony? I’d say a guy who advocates government manipulation of radio who calls others that argue to protect freedom of speach and the press a nazi pretty well covers it.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:31 pm“… Liberal radio was closed due to lack of funding…”
Comment by too bad libertarian sounds so much like liberal
Gee, does that mean the deliberate corporate black-listing had nothing to do w/ it?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:32 pmYou seem to be commited to your “Ministry of Truth.†Better put a telescreen in everyone’s home so you can dictate what they think as well as hear.
Comment by firstamendment crybaby
And you seem committed to hearing a one-side discourse. Your ideology isn’t too well grounded if you’re threatened by debate.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:32 pmin the words of the failed televised media (which is 99.9% Liberal); Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
June 20th, 2007 at 10:32 pmThis is a “Progressive” thought, because conservative talk radio is more popular and has higher ratings we should limit how many conservative radio stations can broadcast in a give market? What? Air America went on air and tanked, people don’t like listening to whining liberals, the Progressives answer? Regulate and ban conservative radio. Wow, that is real “progressive” thinking. More like Opressive if you ask me.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:32 pmAre you folks really this friggin crazy?
Talk radio belongs to whomever brings in the advertising dollars and ratings, just like television.
Since Air Amerika could not hack it, I suppose you will now try the favorite liberal tactic of going to court…
June 20th, 2007 at 10:32 pmAs Michael Savage says,”Liberalism is a mental disorder.” The clear facts are that most of us don’t suffer from it. So, for the Liberlas to get any air time, they have to have fairness doctrine. Otherwis nobody would listen to their crap. Proof: Air America = DISASTER.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:33 pmHA….liberal ideas can’t compete in the marketplace so the only thing left to do is force it through courts. Gawd, how much more liberal can you get.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:33 pmDave- it’s not just follow the money. It’s follow the money and look at the hand. Race has a huge part to play in the stifling of opposition on radio. Why not on TV you ask? Because it’s a visual medium and we’ve thankfully gotten most of America educated on obvious racism. But the radio is a different medium and there has to be some governmental oversight of the ad-money stream to ensure fairness.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:33 pmThe reason liberal radio doesn’t work is because liberal ideas don’t stand up to scrutiny. In the past 30 years, liberalism has done nothing but exaserbate the problems they claim to be fixing. Welfare created an entire class of people who are too dependent upon the government for their livelyhoods to get off their fat asses and become productive members of society. Liberals have made healthcare outrageously expensive by suing doctors out of business and making malpractice insurance premiums skyrocket so now they want publicly funded medicine. Have you ever seen publicly funded housing? Go to the projects in Chicago or New Orleans (pre-Katrina) and tell me you want the same people running your hospitals.
There is nothing that the government does that the private sector can’t do better, faster and cheaper. While FEMA was arguing with the governor and the mayor about who was responsible for evacuating, housing and feeding thousands of welfare state goverment teet suckers, Wal-Mart was unloading and distributing truckloads of bottled water, food and clothing. Wal-Mart made it to New Orleans before the National Guard did. The government can’t get out of it’s own way.
Liberalism is a dead end philosophy. Anyone with any common sense is a libertarian. Liberals are complete idiots.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:34 pmI enjoyed reading the first dozen or so liberal responses. After that, it was like reading “See Spot Run” over and over.
Most people enjoy conservative talk radio. It is advertisers dream. That’s why it is on the air. It is called free market enterprise. I read post after post about “well, there are liberal talk shows that had good ratings but were pulled for something conservative”. Okay, I am from Missouri, SHOW ME. Tell me which liberal show that was doing so great in the ratings that was pulled for a conservative show – I want the city/market and call letters and the time of day it was on, too.
I won’t hold my breath because it is all made up in your mind. It never happened. It is probably something you heard on Air America. Boy, they’re really on top of the Arbitron ratings chart over there at Air America, aren’t they?
Why do liberals have to be so unintelligent?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:34 pmFrom now on, all christian radio stations must run equal time of Howard Stern and Opie/Anthony,
And all the Rock stations, must carry daily prayers…
All sports stations must cover ‘Mathletes’ and Chess Matches…
CSPAN must carry a Republican Senator speaking on the floor,
And I CANT WAIT for what little Air America has left to have to spend 1/2 its time broadcasting conservative view points… How SCHWEEET!
June 20th, 2007 at 10:34 pmLiberal radio was closed due to a lack of funding? Well why oh why didn’t the left from Hollyweird come to your rescue and bail you out? Why didn’t the “great” George Soros bail you out? Because they know not to put their money into a sinking ship.
Police power? Here we go, big Government to the rescue over the popular voice on radio. It’s called supply and demand. I know you probably hate Capitalism, but like it or not, that’s how it works.
Competition makes you better, not police power.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:34 pmYes, as amatter of fact, I would rather listen to Michael Savage for hours on end than listen to Liberal diatribes about nothing of substance.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:35 pmYou are not “Progressives”, you are TOTALITARIANS! You have the same DNA as those bastards that tried the same ideas in the old Soviet Union. We all know the result. You can’t win in an open dialog of ideas, so you want regulations.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:35 pmBut here is a deal: we will swap a few radio stations for a couple of TV networks and 2 or 3 newspapers too (like New York Slime and Washington Poop). That would be FAIR and Balanced then, wouldn’t it?!!
Since when is the antonym of “conservative” the word “progressive?” And could we consider the recent demise of Air America in this. They had mega bucks and star power to get them started. They lacked ratings. When you lack ratings, you lack advertising dollars. When you lack ratings, and the advertising dollars go away, and your deep pockets (can we all say George Soros) realize it aint working ’cause people aren’t listening, and the money dries up, your effort fails. So now the answer from the liberal side is, “If we can’t succeed in this medium, we have to make sure no one else can, either.” This argument isn’t about equal access; it’s all about equal outcome, a governmentally engineered outcome if necessary.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:36 pmLiberals can’t compete so they want to regulate it away.
So typical.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:36 pmI love how everyone forgets that Al Franken had to borrow money under somewhat questionable circumstances form the Boy’s Club’s in New York to keep the SS Airhead America afloat. Now if this is the face of the “New America, then I’ll pass.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:36 pmOf course there’s a balanced vew presented – the “mainstream media” is left-wing, and talk radio is right-wing.
Is there a need to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine?
No – sounds balanced to me already!
June 20th, 2007 at 10:36 pmSpudge_Boy -if you live near Illinois let me know the place and time. I will kick you fat ass, you friggin’ moron. After I am finished I will make you eat soap. Hopefully it will teach you not to post your filth without your parents knowledge. Do your parents know that you are a homo?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:36 pmTrue alot of talk radio in my area “middle america” is conservative. But what about NPR that is what I used to listen to before I found a station with shows that made more sence to me. My radio is always on that station now by choice. Most other forms of media are widely dominated by the left especially the movie industry and the far left. I’m sorry but most people are in the middle, we need common sence not radical view. Middle America cares about Americans not how sad we should be a species of rat might die out if we build a new power plant or that the poor illegal aliens dont get to see their families. Making the air wave “equal” would be fine with me (seems like forcing what isnt needed but…) as long as that extended to other facets of media it would be great. Conservatives would more of an audience if other media forms were required to subit as well.. To bad that would be infriging on right is we did that to liberals. hmm
June 20th, 2007 at 10:36 pmTalk radio is a big conservative stronghold BECAUSE OF THE DAMN LIBERALS TURING MUCH OF THE REST OF OUR MEDIA TO FIT THEIR AJENDA
Talk radio is just one more form of intertainment. It needs to be controlled and monitored to assure comformity to public need. Presently few radio talk shows first consider the good of the body before airing their laundry.
I rather like the way it is done with NBC ,CBS and other large orgs that first ask before putting out anything. It saves me a lot of worry and allows me to seldom think on my own.
Just like being married.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:36 pmOpen the borders Bush, let us in Chertof! You republicans had better look carefully into the neocons propaganda. Take your party back from these trolls! Blessings upon you this night.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:37 pmThe imbalance is caused by more people wanting to hear conservative talk radio. Simply more demand, and to suggest otherwise is why people do not want to hear liberal radio and why it’s not successful.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:38 pmThe conservative trolls are bound and determined to try and steer the debate to liberal talk shows, because they know that they will lose any debate applying the fairness doctrine on all shows. To do so would reveal their intellectual bankruptcy, so look for more wingnut pettifogging.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:38 pmI’m constantly amazed by drivel like this. The Left, Progressives, Liberals, whatever you want to call yourselves, complain about talk radio and cable news programming because “they only reflect the conservative point of view”. At the same time, they don’t seem to have any problems with the major news organizations and print media having a decidely liberal bias. Basically, they’re unhappy when they don’t dominate, direct, or control what people are told. As my kids say, “Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.” The system works. If what the Left said made any sense, people would tune into them. They tend, though, to be whiney, shrill jerks, so we tune out.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:39 pm“And you seem committed to hearing a one-side discourse. Your ideology isn’t too well grounded if you’re threatened by debate.”
Ahh. I like that you take that angle, considering your ideology can’t seem to find a market because no one wants to listen.
So, what other ideologies do you believe the government should force down people’s throats? You do realize that liberal and conservative aren’t the only two don’t you? You never answered, do you give the KKK, neo-nazis, fascists, nation of islam black supremacists, la raza (latino supremacists, etc… a forum as well? What speech do you protect? Or do you stop with things you agree with?
June 20th, 2007 at 10:39 pmThe real threat of liberalism is not their propensity to go all fascist pig and try to silence all but their own. It is when they get political power and do their evil gun control, which then results in the hundreds of thousands of innocent disarmed americans being murdered in our cities (google uniform crime reports, just do arithmetic on biggest US cities from 1965 to 2005). Gun control is murder. Supporters of gun control are murderers. So, let them call us names, while we feret them out for justice.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:39 pmWanna make bets on Jihadi being one of these crackpot con(man)servatives? Get off this blog you fool.