Beck guest used violent rhetoric about Hillary.
Beck guest used violent rhetoric about Hillary.
Earlier today, ThinkProgress noted this exchange between CNN Headline News host Glenn Beck and guest Michael Graham:
Graham asked Beck if he wanted to see the Clintons murdered in the [spoof Sopranos] video. “[S]eriously, Glenn, didn’t you at one point want to see, like, Paulie Walnuts or someone come in and just whack them both right there. Wouldn’t that have been great?” Beck responded with a smile, “No, I did not want to see that.” Graham said, “C’mon. … I wanted that.”
MediaMatters points out that on the May 7, 2003, edition of MSNBC’s Hardball, Graham said: “Anyone listening to Hillary Rodham in her speech last week about patriotism, that screaming, screeching fingernail, I wanted to bludgeon her with a tire iron.” Also, Beck himself fantasized killing filmmaker Michael Moore in 2005: “I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I’m wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could.”
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This is the very basic difference between the right and the left. The right wants to kill people for their ideology.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:30 pmLook, when you grow up a fat kid, and the son of a baker, yeah, you’re going to probably go through your entire life with severe anger issues.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:33 pmBeck’s in pain, people.
The real difference is that the Right gets away with casual comments about killing people for their ideology. “ha ha, just a joke! Where’s your sense of humor?”
If someone on the Left had said this, it would be on the front page of every paper in the country.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:34 pmI want these morons taken off the airwaves. If Imus can go down for nappy headed hoes, why can’t death wishes rate the same? The right wing is all venom and violent threats.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:35 pmRight, the Pillsbury Blowboy as hitman…
What is w/ these pudgy, pasty faced hate-clowns and their endless toughguy talk? I mean, seriously, does ANYONE believe Beck could even take down a a package of Twinkies w/out help?
June 21st, 2007 at 8:39 pmMichael Moore should challenge Glen Beck to a boxing match.
I’d pay money to see that sh!t.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:41 pmYawn……..
I got an idea…. legislate them off the air….
Yawn
June 21st, 2007 at 8:44 pmisnt he doing radio for washington radio now? isn’t it a felony to threaten a presidents life?
isnt sguiggy in jail for life for brandishing a gun at gerald ford?
havnt most acts of terrorism in america been from right wing conspiritors?
is grunge rock coming back soon? I hope so. I’m tired.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:48 pmApparently, from John Cornyn, Tom Delay, Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and Michael Graham to the right-wing grassroots, threatening judges is now business as usual for the American conservative movement.
For the details, see:
June 21st, 2007 at 8:50 pm“Libby Court’s Walton Latest Target of Right-Wing Threats to Judges.”
Beck didnt agree, or are you wanting to read into this something which isnt there?
In 2005, Air America aired a skit in which a President Bush character was shot, a scenario that was serious enough to rouse the suspicion of the Secret Service.
There is a site called ‘Killbush.net’ at which you can find shirts emblazoned with that very phrase. Cafepress used to carry shirts that had a take-off of the Kill Bill movie poster that had basically the same theme. “Ha ha, just a joke” as gummitch says.
If you guys are going to be critical, at least have the decency to be critical of the entire system. When ANYONE advocates such a thing, you have a right to be insulted and they have a right to be investigated if appropriate, but lets give both sides an equal backhand here.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:50 pmHeyooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway, that wasn’t Pauly Walnuts, that was Johny Sack.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:52 pmYikes! WOW! Ah those are the sweet sounds of the end of the Republican party!
June 21st, 2007 at 8:53 pmGoose, it says”BECK GUEST”. What part of “Beck guest” do you not get (hint, there are two parts).
June 21st, 2007 at 8:55 pmGraham really has a problem with Hillary, doesn’t he? I get the feeling he had a wife once.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:56 pmBeck really wants to get fired, and it’ll be a badge of honor for him. Then Beck will get hired by someone else for more money. He’s no fool, it’s CNN Mgmt. who are the morons.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:56 pmTell CNN what you think
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form.sound.off.html
June 21st, 2007 at 8:57 pmThat’s why neocons are itching for a strike against Iran: They have deep-seated fantasies of torture, blood, gore, and murder.
They express these ideas so loudly and so often, I have to wonder if they took pleasure at torturing cats and dogs when they were children. This a pathological lot.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:09 pmWhat a good conservative Christian.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:15 pmGoose, it saysâ€BECK GUESTâ€. What part of “Beck guest†do you not get (hint, there are two parts).
Hint: a show host cant always moderate the opinions and screeds that issue from the mouths of their guests, its why the delay button was invented.
A post previous to mine advocated removing Beck from the airwaves for something a guest said, Im wondering if you felt the same when Randi Rhodes aired the skit of Bush being shot?
June 21st, 2007 at 9:22 pm“Hint: a show host cant always moderate the opinions and screeds that issue from the mouths of their guests, its why the delay button was invented.”
Hmm, you don’t have a leg to stand on. One, TP said the GUEST is the one out of line. Two, want to guess how many times this nut has been on Beck?
June 21st, 2007 at 9:26 pm“A post previous to mine advocated removing Beck from the airwaves for something a guest said, Im wondering if you felt the same when Randi Rhodes aired the skit of Bush being shot”
Actually that is a great question. A similar one has been postulated before. If you could go back in time would you murder Adolf Hitler as a child? Great moral question.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:27 pmHmmm, it was steve (post #4) who said “I want these morons off the air”, hence my reference to “a previous post”. Want to borrow a leg?
I have no idea how many times this particular guest has been on Beck. though in reference to the high dudgeon in which so many here have found themselves, Im still wondering if they found themselves outraged over similar liberal portrayals?
June 21st, 2007 at 9:34 pmA post previous to mine advocated removing Beck from the airwaves for something a guest said, Im wondering if you felt the same when Randi Rhodes aired the skit of Bush being shot?
Comment by Goose
If you are looking for people advocating removing Randi Rhodes from the airwaves, there’s about 3,000 of them on the previous post on this subject. Or you could go to Drudge or any other neocon site. Why come to a progressive site looking for “fairness” when you people clearly don’t believe in it.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:35 pmActually that is a great question. A similar one has been postulated before. If you could go back in time would you murder Adolf Hitler as a child? Great moral question.
If youre serious and not playing at this, it is a great hypothetical mindgame for debate. My answer would be emphatically no. Flame away if you feel it necessary.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:37 pmGoose, I will not flame you for that. I really don’t think there is a right answer. I know I would if I knew what would happen.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:39 pmWhy come to a progressive site looking for “fairness†when you people clearly don’t believe in it.
Why the attack? Have I made any broadbrush references to anyone here, have I made any attempt to paint the regulars of this site as lockstep in their beliefs? How did “I” become part of the “you people”?
What do you know about me other than what you could glean from my few posts and why have you decided that Im seemingly unworthy of a decent and rational answer to my queries? If this site is a simple echo-chamber then you guys must get really bored.
Anyone here have the sense to actually discuss the issues or should I just be prepared to be flamed ad-nauseum every time I post?
June 21st, 2007 at 9:43 pmso talking about killing Bush is ok?
June 21st, 2007 at 9:46 pmGoose, I will not flame you for that. I really don’t think there is a right answer. I know I would if I knew what would happen.
Well thanks, jpark. I like to get questions like that because of all the combining themes that arise; the “if you knew then what you know now” type of questions. The one you posed could go on forever with all its possibilities, such as would JFK have been president without the war-hero exploits of PT-109 on his resume?
June 21st, 2007 at 9:48 pmGoose, I just wrote a long post explaining why you are being attacked by liberals right now but it didn’t go through. I will shorten it. Most right-wingers that come here are not interested in actual debate or even conversation. We are attacked by talking points and right-wing hatred daily. If you are not that way, be patient, you will be accepted.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:52 pmChris, look at Goose, and look at my answer.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:53 pmHitler…Bush…I don’t see a difference, Chris…so…yes.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:54 pmIf Glenn Beck makes one move towards Michael Moore, He’ll get his sissy ass kicked.
Glenn Beck is a punk and a bitch.
June 21st, 2007 at 10:06 pmSPREAD THE WORD: Bush is now officially known as “Mr. 26%.”
June 21st, 2007 at 10:28 pmSPREAD THE WORD: Bush is now officially known as “Mr. 26%.”
SPREAD THE WORD: Bush is now officially known as “Mr. 26%!”
democrat’s are at 14%%!!!!!!!
June 21st, 2007 at 10:42 pmEvidently, Graham and Beck belong to an institution for the criminally insane.
America has really fallen of the map of the civilzed world.
June 21st, 2007 at 10:49 pm“I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I’m wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could.â€
Of course, the FBI did nothing about this. Right-wing threats of murder do not register with this government.
June 21st, 2007 at 10:51 pmBeck is a right-wing lunatic, so CNN must fire him. FOX might hire him.
June 21st, 2007 at 10:55 pmIm not interested in being accepted, Im interested in reasonable debate. Considering I came here via a link, I was hoping that such a thing could be found. Other threads here have bemoaned the “freeper idiots” who stereotype all liberals, yet the same actions seem to occur here.
As I alluded to earlier, echo-chambers like LGF and DU are dull and constantly having to endure “youre a nazi moron” gets old quick. See quote #32.
June 21st, 2007 at 10:56 pmOf course, the FBI did nothing about this. Right-wing threats of murder do not register with this government.
June 21st, 2007 at 10:57 pmWith a name like “Goose,” I wouldn’t think you’d have diffculty with humor. Go figure….
June 21st, 2007 at 10:58 pmOf course, the FBI did nothing about this. Right-wing threats of murder do not register with this government.
Whoops.
I take it you work for the FBI, considering your intimate knowledge of their investigations? Believe it or not, just because you didnt read about something on the front of the local paper doesnt mean it didnt occur.
June 21st, 2007 at 10:59 pmOK, Goose, after reading my whole post you latched on to accepted. You didn’t really understand my post did you? How about this FU.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:00 pmAnyone here have the sense to actually discuss the issues or should I just be prepared to be flamed ad-nauseum every time I post?
Comment by Goose
Goose, you sound like Jake, insisting everybody discuss the topic you propose. If you want to discuss firing Randi Rhodes, go to the thread from yesterday, I’m sure there are still people ranting about Air America there.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:00 pmWith a name like “Goose,†I wouldn’t think you’d have diffculty with humor. Go figure….
The name references a certain motorcycle-riding cop. I do believe he had a good, if slightly deranged, sense of humor.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:02 pmGoose, after your total lack of respect for anybody that would show you some respect, yeah, I would guess you should expect to get flamed.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:02 pmdemocrat’s are at 14%%!!!!!!!
Comment by Chris
No the congress is at 14%, asswipe.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:04 pmGoose, you sound like Jake, insisting everybody discuss the topic you propose.
You mean..ummm..the thread topic that I opined about starting back at #10? Just trying to point out the hypocrisy in play here to get the thread past such insightful comments as “Glenn Beck is a punk and a bitch.” Where exactly does one go from there in an effort to actually discuss?
Please forgive, Im new to the site and didnt realize that I must first research all previous threads before posting on the current list. Let me put my flame-hat on and we can trade insults about one another’s parentage.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:08 pmThe name references a certain motorcycle-riding cop. I do believe he had a good, if slightly deranged, sense of humor.
Comment by Goose
Right, Max’s pal in “Mad Max”…
June 21st, 2007 at 11:09 pmHenry II: “won’t someone rid me of this turbulent priest?”
4 hours later St Thomas a Becket had his head split in two
June 21st, 2007 at 11:09 pmGoose, after your total lack of respect for anybody that would show you some respect, yeah, I would guess you should expect to get flamed.
Pray tell, where exactly did that occur?
June 21st, 2007 at 11:10 pmRight, Max’s pal in “Mad Maxâ€â€¦
Roger, roger. If you are a fan of the film we would probably get along just fine, irregardless of our political differences. Cult films can be a uniting force…along with motorcycles and Eric Clapton’s music.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:12 pm“Glenn Beck is a punk and a bitch.
Comment by Goose
Well, in all honesty, that’s pretty much a statement of fact, Mr. Goose. I mean, have you ever actually watched Glenn Beck on the air?
June 21st, 2007 at 11:12 pmYou mean..ummm..the thread topic that I opined about starting back at #10?
Comment by Goose
Ummm, the thread topic IS “Beck guest used violent rhetoric”. If you’d like us to discuss what you “opine” maybe you should start your own blog and we can come there and discuss what you wish to discuss. You seem to be unhappy with every blog you go to, did you ever think, maybe it’s you?
June 21st, 2007 at 11:16 pmGoose, I reached out to you but you blasted me. I am not really interested in talking to someone like you.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:19 pmBy the way Goose, irregardless is not a word, you moron.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:20 pmSee, now, regardless means without regard…irregardless means without irregard. Do you see a problem with that you right wing a$$ sucker?
June 21st, 2007 at 11:21 pmBye Goose.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:21 pmRoger, roger. If you are a fan of the film we would probably get along just fine, irregardless of our political differences. Cult films can be a uniting force…along with motorcycles and Eric Clapton’s music.
Comment by Goose
I saw “The Road Warrior” in a sneak preview the summer it came out, at the old UC Theater in Berkeley, CA. Huge old place, BIIIGG screen.
It was a Friday night midnight showing, and the place was sold out. They were late starting the film and at one point I started stomping on the wooden floor, shouting “Kill… Killl… Killl…” W/in 30 seconds the whole place was in step w/ me. The entire floor was shaking.
The lights immediately went down, and the movie started… Irealized later that I had almost started a riot.
More of a Hendrix man, myself, but I love “Layla”, particularly “Why Does Love Have to Sad…”
June 21st, 2007 at 11:22 pmSee ya around jpark. Take it easy.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:22 pmGoose,
June 21st, 2007 at 11:27 pmI ride motorcycles and I still think you are an uppidy prick who sounds a little too much like vv trying to redo yourself.
Whoa, you like Jimi too? I was going to reference Jimi instead of Clapton as a unifying force but I figured the chances of finding a fan of his would be next to nil. Definately one of the people I would class as giving an arm for the chance to meet and hear live.
When I saw Mad Max, I believe my brothers and I were the only peeps in the theatre, I dont think anyone wanted to see an admittedly poorly edited and acted film, but I guess thats what makes it a cult classic.
I saw it at the old Skyway Theatre in downtown Minneapolis, back in the days when going downtown didnt require carrying a gun. Fact is, we watched it three times in a row; the theatre allowed you to stay for free if you didnt actually leave the room.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:28 pmI ride motorcycles and I still think you are an uppidy prick who sounds a little too much like vv trying to redo yourself.
I have a 2005 Yami FJR and just recently put down some cash on a 2006 Suzuki Boulevard M-109R in blue (same color as the FJR). She’s a monster and on the heavy side, but what a sound. Even better than a Harley, in my opinion.
There is common ground among us, Im sure of that.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:32 pmFact is, we watched it three times in a row; the theatre allowed you to stay for free if you didnt actually leave the room.
Comment by Goose
I’ve probably seen TRW 15, maybe even 20 times. (I’m a movie freak, what can I say?). I once sat straight thru The Deer Hunter, Apocalypse Now, and then The Deer Hunter again, all in one day. Then I went back and watched Apocalypse 2x and TDH once the next day.
Also, I worship Duane Allman. Gotta go. The babe is home.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:36 pmAdios man, good talking to ya.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:37 pmLot of anger here tonight. You folks need to listen to more Jimi, I would suggest ‘Castles Made of Sand’.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:40 pmIf you could go back in time would you murder Adolf Hitler as a child? Great moral question.
Comment by JPark — June 21, 2007 @ 9:27
A rather violent thought there. There would be ways to prevent him from coming to power other than killing him. ;)
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:04 amMichael Moore should challenge Glen Beck to a boxing match.
I’d pay money to see that sh!t.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — June 21, 2007 @ 8:41 pm
Seriously, now monkey. Moore looks like he can barely walk! You think he’d get off more than one punch before he hit the ground gasping for breath? All Beck would have to do is side step once or twice and get out of the way when Moore went down. ;)
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:07 amA rather violent thought there. There would be ways to prevent him from coming to power other than killing him. ;) Comment by upright left — June 22, 2007 @ 1:04 am
There would? How do you *know* – genius? Typical wingnut. Claiming that there’s *always* a way to deal in your *absolute* world and not get *messy* with reality. Loser.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:27 amI dont see what the big deal is, Id love to see on TV that Becks kids were killed,then his line would be over.In this day and age some people must go to make room for those who want to go forward and not back.Someone saying hello to becks family would be a shot over the bow.Dont expect to threaten violence and not see it in your own home. At least that what ive read……and I dont condone his life being stomped to death.I will never condone violence against becks family when he is at work.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:31 amThere would? How do you *know* – genius? Typical wingnut. Claiming that there’s *always* a way to deal in your *absolute* world and not get *messy* with reality. Loser.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — June 22, 2007 @ 1:27 am
C,mon anus. You are seriously slipping tonight! The post was, “If you could go back in time would you kill Hitler as a child?” If you could go back in time, could you not think of some other way to stop Hitler than by killing him? Remember, anus, y’all are using this thread to blast conservatives for being violent.
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Comment by Vance — June 22, 2007 @ 1:31 am
See the above! You aren’t helping TP. You are supposed to be trying to make conservatives look bad while you are the passive, tolerant, persecuted peacemakers! Now be peaceful for goodness sake! ;)
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:48 amMoore looks like he can barely walk! You think he’d get off more than one punch before he hit the ground gasping for breath? All Beck would have to do is side step once or twice and get out of the way when Moore went down. ;)
Comment by upright left
Yes, a white man that can fight. Like unicorns. They dont exist.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:55 amYes, a white man that can fight. Like unicorns. They dont exist.
Comment by Juan C — June 22, 2007 @ 1:55 am
All right, you people. First we have anus and Vance failing to toe the pacifist line and now Juan with a racist comment. You stand in serious jeopardy of being stripped of your progressive credentials! Get it together now, or head off to redstate! ;)
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:09 amupright left, Juan is wrong, I can fight. I am progressive, want to go?
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:50 amupright left, Juan is wrong, I can fight. I am progressive, want to go?
Comment by JPark — June 22, 2007 @ 2:50 am
No, no, no JPark, progressives are pacifists.
Didn’t ya see this post?
“The right wing is all venom and violent threats.”
Comment by steve — June 21, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
You have to be passive or you cause a problem for TP since the purpose of this thread is to show that conservatives are violent. Now put down those those fists before ya get called a warmongering righty! ;)
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:17 amThat Glenn Beck. He’s a funny guy. He’s a comedian. He was only joking.
Right….You know very well that he wanted to agree with his guest in the worst way. But, I think that he learned a lesson from Imus and is going to skirt the line without walking over it.
The guy is a neocon creep, any way you look at it. Any anyone who thinks he is just a comedian is an idiot.
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:31 am“The real difference is that the Right gets away with casual comments about killing people for their ideology. “ha ha, just a joke! Where’s your sense of humor?â€
If someone on the Left had said this, it would be on the front page of every paper in the country.”
If someone on the left said this about Bush, they would be in jail.
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:32 am“Beck didnt agree, or are you wanting to read into this something which isnt there?
In 2005, Air America aired a skit in which a President Bush character was shot, a scenario that was serious enough to rouse the suspicion of the Secret Service.”
You are right, he didn’t agree. He just sat there with a stupid grin on his face. He didn’t tell his guest he thought that was an inappropriate thing to say either.
So, tell me why something said on Air America brings down the Secret Service, but something said on Glenn Beck’s show is ignored?
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:34 amMany years ago, I worked at a VA hospital (psychiatric hospital) and one of the patients sent a letter to Reagon threatening to kill him. Now this patient was not going leave this hospital because he was too sick, both mentally and physically. The SS was all over this hospital investigating this patient even though this was nothing more than words on a piece of paper. So, will the SS be investigating this “kill the Clintons” Michael Graham? This is a public threat to a former president and a current presidential candidate. It’s disgusting that people would actually talk about killing another person and act like it’s a joke. It shows how low the morality of this country has sunk. No wonder the rest of the world finds Americans vile and immoral.
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:41 amGod, where does Beck get these freaks from?
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 pmSo, tell me why something said on Air America brings down the Secret Service, but something said on Glenn Beck’s show is ignored?
Comment by Katie — June 22, 2007 @ 9:34 am
Because unbalanced flakes listen to Air America while normal people watch Beck? ;)
June 23rd, 2007 at 11:46 pmGlenn Beck just stated what he thought of Hillary Clinton
I don’t Really care about Hillary or Bill Clinton(even if he from my state)
I’m more right.
His Show is about what he thinks.
Glenn Beck can think what he wants.
So if you don’t like him
don’t listen to him.
Just change the channel if you don’t like him.
I happen to watch CNN,Daily Show and Colbert Report
every time it comes on.
I Watch Glenn Beck
and I read “God Is Not Great-How Religion Poisons Everything”
He can think whatever he wants
June 25th, 2007 at 8:44 pmand I can think whatever i want.