Well Clinton was at 27%, er well no I guess he wasn’t.
Uhh damn liberal media, no that doesn’t work either, after seeing the Today show refer to Guantanamo as a detainment facility, and those detained as terrorists, or suspected terrorists.
#3 ~ That comes out to 86% who are not happy. Minus the 27% who are fanatical Jesus smokers, you’re left with 59% who are pissed off at Congress that Bush hasn’t yet been impeached, tarred, feathered and made to anchor a naked pyramid in Abu Graib.
#6 – These days when I get funds solicitation calls from the DCCC and other Dem fundraisers I tell them I won’t be giving any more until I see some action instead of the same flaccid cock in the same vigorously stroking palm.
When will you guys realize Americans don’t like Republicans or Democrats!
Wow, you’re really pitching that meme hard. Actually, they like Republicans much less than Democrats and realize that their best chance of getting rid of these corrupt scumbags in the White House is with the Democrats. They may not have a lot of faith in the Democrats cleaning out the scum, but they know there’s absolutely no chance of it with the GOP in power.
What you’re doing is conceding that your party (the GOP) is a lost cause, so the best you can do is try to convince people that the Democrats are just as bad. It doesn’t look like you’re winning anyone over with that approach, either. Probably because you sound so phony doing it.
Jack Cafferty talked about the low Congressional approval rating last night. He had viewers e-mail him why they thought the approval rating was so low. EVERY LETTER he got said it was so low because the Congress wouldn’t end the war.
Now the Congress is seen as complicit. THe one issue where the country is nearly unanimous, is ending the war.
Russ Feingold said he gets Republican constituents that tell him stuff like “Russ, privatize Social Security, AND END THE WAR.” It is bi-partisan. I personally think Congress’ approval rating would go up if they simply cut funds, or initiated impeachment hearings.
As long as Bush has the support of 1.5% He stays in power. That 1.5% controls some 80-90% of the wealth in this country. The rest of us don’t matter to them. We can be controlled, or subdued, as the case may be.
Congress definitely has a low approval rating, but to say it places Dems lower than the president is to discount the nearly 50% of Congress that is Republican. Also remember that there is a very well documented phenomenon when it comes to the Legislative branch: the legislature as a whole has very low approval ratings while individual legislators have very high approval ratings- leading to a near 95% incumbancy rate. In other words, constituents are saying “Congress sucks- but my congressman is one of the good ones.”
In general, the impression I am getting is that the Congressional approval rating is low because Congress as a whole is viewed as not standing up to the administraton on one issue- the Iraq war. This basically means that each election cycle you will see war-favoring incumbents being replaced.
That 14% rating is misleading. It is only peo le who gave Congress an A or a B. Of ciurse the Repuke trolls didn’t bother to go to Gallup and actually READ the poll.
The only reason the trolls are now screaming and shouting that both p arties are bad is because they want to split the Democratic vote. They will vote Republican no matter what. They are liars. As usual.
Hey trolls – stop trying to change the subject from your pathetic Leader’s historic low approval rating. And doesn’t it seem clear by now that it won’t be long before his approval is at 14%? Or are you reallly that delusional? You do realize he’ll be heading down to Crawford soon. I can only pray all of our cities make it through.
And I love the idea that we’re supposed to defend Congress. In case you hadn’t noticed, the Congress is not 100% Democratic. The Senate is very closely divided and the House is 232-201 which amounts to 53% Dem. Sooo… the 14% approval is just for the Democrats, dummy.
And even if it were, we’re not you, obediantly supporting our masters like dogs. In case you had forgotten, we threw a very popular president of our own party under the bus because he lied under oath.
Polls are irrelevant. Fortunately this Executive is making policies based on reality and not based on the whims of the moronic citizens of this country.
Polls are irrelevant. But this executive is making policies based, not on reality, but on his perception of events that is distorted by the time it reaches him in the protective little bubble he has crafted for himself.
He is so far out of touch that he doesn’t even realize that he is unpopular.
“For the record, I would not support Bush if he ate (human) babies.”
Don’t you find it peculiar that the President would veto the stem cell bill, on ‘maoral’ grounds, but then doesn’t oppose it if privateers do it. So killing the unborn is ok as long as big Pharma can make a buck off it?
I don’t see how you can make the wild claim that he’s making decisions based on reality. You know it was this administration that mocked the rest of us for being in the “reality-based community” and that they “make their own reality”.
And exactly who are the moronic citizens you speak of? I would certainly be accused by you of elitism for calling the good ol Amerucins morons.
We don’t pay attention to polls, except for the polls that tell us what we want to hear. Only THOSE polls matter. Former Congressman Mark Foley (R-FL) invented this concept.
hmm the congress polls matter but the president’s don’t
why is that? because you don’t like the president’s poll numbers?
and are the moronic citizens who don’t realize what a wonderful job The Leader is doing – are they the same citizens who approve of only 14% for congress?
#33 How twisted can you be? What we are pointing out is the hypocrisy of this entire thread. You liberal get off on using either none or half the facts.
A Gallup Poll comes out and says Bush 27% and Congress %14. What do you post? Half the facts. So we are here to show you, the rest of the story.
You thought Pelosi and the rest of the under the rock dwellers were going to come in and clean house. Instead it is a whole new breed of criminals. First thing was stopping the war but what did they do? Nothing! They held the purse stings and could have just cut funding and ended the war. But your precious Democrats are nothing but self-serving slime balls and it did not take long to recognize.
I am so Happy it was Gallup doing both polls. Otherwise you would have used another liberal tactic and smeared whatever poll taker said 14%.
So even starting this thread was a stupid move on the liberal side. Someone is always watching you slime-ball tactics.
The Gallup poll you refer to can be found here, and it clearly says that the approival rating for Congress is 24%. The same poll for the president is 26%.
So you misstated both figures. Coincidentally, you UNDERstated Congress numbers and OVERstated Bush’s numbers. What are the odds of THAT mistake being made?
Tell us again why we should read anything you post?
Not if there aren’t the votes to ban all destruction of human embryos (think about IVF too). Perhaps if TP posts a new thread on the stem-cell issue, we can discuss there?
Polls are irrelevant. Fortunately this Executive is making policies based on 1) the whims of some imagined giant Santa in the sky, 2) the combined voices of his many d.t. hallucinations, 3) the chorus of hyperrich businesspeople who can’t stand to see a single dollar go anywhere but in their own wallets, and not based on the whims of the moronic citizens (e.g. the people who voted for him in the first place, among others) of this country.
You know, it is so funny I think I will post it again. Here is the first paragrph
June 21, 2007
Americans’ Confidence in Congress at All-Time Low
PRINCETON, NJ — The percentage of Americans with a “great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in Congress is at 14%, the lowest in Gallup’s history of this measure — and the lowest of any of the 16 institutions tested in this year’s Confidence in Institutions survey. It is also one of the lowest confidence ratings for any institution tested over the last three decades.
LOWEST OF ANY INSTITUION IN THREE DECADES! Ah,ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Oh my God this is the best way to finish a work week. ROTFL. You should all tatoo a big “L” on your foreheads so you will know who to talk to at parties. ROTFL.
Or you can go right to the document cited above, the Gallup poll from which you selectively pulled data and quote the relevant paragraph:
According to the June 11-14, 2007, survey, 24% of Americans approve and 71% disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job.
Sounds to me that the “Approval Rating” for Congress is actually 24%, as opposed to the numbers with “a great deal” or “quite a lot” of “confidence” in Congress that you tried to pass off as a flat-out approval rating. All we ask is to compare apples to apples and to compare honestly. You seem unwilling to do that.
All these forkin idiot trolls who crow about the low approval rating of the “Democrat congress” are either trying to draw attention away from the Chimpster’s sinking “legacy” or they’re stupid. Maybe both.
Criticizing the Democratic leaders in Congress is valid, but to claim that the low rating of Congress is all at the feet of the Dems is ridiculous. It’s like a member of a bike race team runs over a rock and bends a rim, hands over the bike to a teammate and then complains that the teammate lost the race.
I’m sorry, I posted the first paragraph. You went cherry picking and I don’t even see the section you pasted. So, if you want apples to apples then let’s look at the confidence rating from that report.
The current confidence rating for Congress — 14% — is the lowest in Gallup’s history for that institution. Although ratings of Congress have never been high, they were at the 40% level at the time of Watergate in the 1970s, and again in 1986.
Confidence for the Presidency -
Americans’ confidence in the presidency has dropped concomitantly with the drop in Bush’s approval ratings. In 2002, 58% were confident in the presidency compared to the current 25%. President Bush’s job approval ratings have fallen from 84% at the beginning of 2002 to 32% today.
Apples to Apples its 14% to 32% – You lose, have a nice weekend. ROTFL
You went cherry picking and I don’t even see the section you pasted. So, if you want apples to apples then let’s look at the confidence rating from that report.
My bad, I thought we were talking about “APPROVAL Ratings”…
Oh, that’s right — we were.
You obviously didn’t follow the link I provided (TWICE) because the quote I pulled was from the second paragraph, immediately under the headline Congressional Job Approval. Yeah, I can see how you might have missed that.
The first paragraph read like this:
“June 20, 2007
Congressional Job Approval Dips Again This Month
Democrats, Republicans now almost equally likely to disapprove of Congress
by Joseph Carroll
PRINCETON, NJ — The honeymoon phase is over for the new Congress, as the public’s ratings of Congress are down again this month. The latest congressional job approval rating (24%) is the lowest for the institution since Democrats took control of both houses in January, and is far below the 37% registered in February. The decline has been most evident among Democrats, whose ratings of Congress now match those of Republicans. Congressional job approval ratings are typically not positive, but ratings as low as the current one are uncommon. The poll also finds that only about one in four Americans say they are satisfied with the way things are going in this country, little changed since last month but still at its lowest point in over a decade.”
So, if you want to move the goalposts again, be my guest. But at least be upfront about it.
“Polls are irrelevant. Fortunately this Executive is making policies based on reality and not based on the whims of the moronic citizens of this country.”
Comment by MAF54
Please read the comment and see that you are being played like a cheap fiddle!!!! Notice his subtle wit with calling ALL citizens morons. He/she is just having a bit of fun here.
“Who do you have more confidence in when it comes to handling the following issues: President Bush or the Democrats in Congress?”
Terrorism: Bush +1%
Foreign Affairs: Congress +14%
Taxes: Congress +14%
Iraq: Congress +15%
Economy: Congress +21%
Health Care: Congress +21%
Social Security: Congress +21%
Federal Deficit: Congress + +34%
Oops, i forgot to mention those are not absolute percents in my comment #51. Those numbers represent the winner (Bush or Congress) and the difference between the winner’s percentage and the loser’s percentage. For example on Social Security the actual percentages are something like Bush 39% and Congress 60%. So i only posted the winner — Congress — and the difference in percentage which is + 21%.
The pedophile at 10:55: “And the democratic Congress is at 14%.”
The pedophile at 12:05: “Polls are irrelevant.”
Just as he tortures young male pages with sexual advances, the pedophile tortures logic on these boards.
Comparing congressional approval ratings to presidential is a classic case of apples and oranges. Mid to high 20’s ratings for Bush is in Nixon territory and reflects a rejection of his positions and him personally by a vast majority of the American people.
Ratings for congress reflect a number of different factors, not the least of which is the average person’s complete lack of knowledge about how Congress works. Some disapprove of what they’re doing. Some disapprove of what they haven’t done, like not impeaching Bush and Cheney. Some have a visceral feeling that things should be happening quicker. In addition, Congress almost always runs at lower approval ratings than a given President.
So when these dead-enders who still support the worst president in American history talk about Congressional ratings, they’re simply grasping at straws and I think most of us are aware of that.
Happy Guy: “Congress have never been high, they were at the 40% level at the time of Watergate in the 1970s, and again in 1986.”
During both of those periods, Congress was successfully challenging the power of the executive. These days, republicans have been able to successfully BLOCK the challenges to the executive, hence the poor reviews.
Why does anyone listen to a creep who as usurped the name of a disgraced on-line wannabe pederast Republican Congressman?
-GSD
Comment by GSD — June 22, 2007 @ 11:49 am
MAF54:
Hi: Just dropped by again to give you the chance to explain the moniker. I truly think once you have cleared up this misunderstanding, others will be more willing to take you seriously.
“When will you guys realize Americans don’t like Republicans or Democrats! Comment by The Joker”
Oh really, then why did a recent poll show that 56% of Americans would like to see a Democrat elected President while only 34% would like to see a Republic?
“Confidence in congress – The current confidence rating for Congress — 14% — is the lowest in Gallup’s history for that institution. Although ratings of Congress have never been high, they were at the 40% level at the time of Watergate in the 1970s, and again in 1986.”
Sorry Happy Guy, that is not apples to apples. This poll says that 14% have “a great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in Congress. Now if that number was gained when they were asked if you “have confidence in congress”, I suspect it would be much different. Plus, when did Congress become inhabited solely by Democrats?
I’m willing to bet that if a poll was taken asking people if they had “a great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in George Bush, that number would be in the single digits.
Finally, what was written in the post that you quoted was contradictory. You quoted:
“In 2002, 58% were confident in the presidency compared to the current 25%. President Bush’s job approval ratings have fallen from 84% at the beginning of 2002 to 32% today.”
In the first sentence it says that Bush’s approval ratings are currently 25% and then in the second sentence they say it is at 32% today.
Clinton’s fault!
June 22nd, 2007 at 10:50 amThe NYT’s poll had Bush at 26%. Bush is now at 27%, he’s surging! Dean Di*khead David Broder was right, Bush is rallying!
Hooray! Call the National Review, get Bill Krusthole on the phone stat! Bush is surging, time to invade Iran!
-GSD
June 22nd, 2007 at 10:54 amYes.
And the democratic Congress is at 14%.
June 22nd, 2007 at 10:55 amWell Clinton was at 27%, er well no I guess he wasn’t.
Uhh damn liberal media, no that doesn’t work either, after seeing the Today show refer to Guantanamo as a detainment facility, and those detained as terrorists, or suspected terrorists.
how about…
Dang I got nothing
June 22nd, 2007 at 10:56 am#3 ~ That comes out to 86% who are not happy. Minus the 27% who are fanatical Jesus smokers, you’re left with 59% who are pissed off at Congress that Bush hasn’t yet been impeached, tarred, feathered and made to anchor a naked pyramid in Abu Graib.
June 22nd, 2007 at 10:59 am#3 – Democratic Congress has a low approval rating because they are not confronting the President who everyone hates.
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:00 amWhen will you guys realize Americans don’t like Republicans or Democrats!
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:01 am#6 – These days when I get funds solicitation calls from the DCCC and other Dem fundraisers I tell them I won’t be giving any more until I see some action instead of the same flaccid cock in the same vigorously stroking palm.
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:09 am—————-
Since Both The Congress & The President are at the lowest approval rating ever ….
Can we storm the White House, reinstate the Constitution, and start over?
They purposely keep us divided (Repubs vs. Dems) on purpose, ya’ know?
Let’s just be Americans and remain loyal to the Republic, not a particular party.
—————-
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:10 amThat high, eh?
-7% would seem more apropos.
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:11 am#7 Joker
When will you guys realize Americans don’t like Republicans or Democrats!
Wow, you’re really pitching that meme hard. Actually, they like Republicans much less than Democrats and realize that their best chance of getting rid of these corrupt scumbags in the White House is with the Democrats. They may not have a lot of faith in the Democrats cleaning out the scum, but they know there’s absolutely no chance of it with the GOP in power.
What you’re doing is conceding that your party (the GOP) is a lost cause, so the best you can do is try to convince people that the Democrats are just as bad. It doesn’t look like you’re winning anyone over with that approach, either. Probably because you sound so phony doing it.
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:15 amJack Cafferty talked about the low Congressional approval rating last night. He had viewers e-mail him why they thought the approval rating was so low. EVERY LETTER he got said it was so low because the Congress wouldn’t end the war.
Now the Congress is seen as complicit. THe one issue where the country is nearly unanimous, is ending the war.
Russ Feingold said he gets Republican constituents that tell him stuff like “Russ, privatize Social Security, AND END THE WAR.” It is bi-partisan. I personally think Congress’ approval rating would go up if they simply cut funds, or initiated impeachment hearings.
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:18 amSoon to be seen “The Onion” headline: Bush Attaches Signing Statements To All Polling Data.
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:19 amAs long as Bush has the support of 1.5% He stays in power. That 1.5% controls some 80-90% of the wealth in this country. The rest of us don’t matter to them. We can be controlled, or subdued, as the case may be.
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:23 am————————
TPer’s will enjoy this! Somebody actually named their baby:
Georgebush Neeway
http://tinyurl.com/2g37lp
They must be Albanian!
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June 22nd, 2007 at 11:26 amBush’s support is rock-bottom 25% > about 1/4 of Americans are redneck fascistic people who would support Bush if he ate babies.
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:29 amCongress definitely has a low approval rating, but to say it places Dems lower than the president is to discount the nearly 50% of Congress that is Republican. Also remember that there is a very well documented phenomenon when it comes to the Legislative branch: the legislature as a whole has very low approval ratings while individual legislators have very high approval ratings- leading to a near 95% incumbancy rate. In other words, constituents are saying “Congress sucks- but my congressman is one of the good ones.”
In general, the impression I am getting is that the Congressional approval rating is low because Congress as a whole is viewed as not standing up to the administraton on one issue- the Iraq war. This basically means that each election cycle you will see war-favoring incumbents being replaced.
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:34 amThat 14% rating is misleading. It is only peo le who gave Congress an A or a B. Of ciurse the Repuke trolls didn’t bother to go to Gallup and actually READ the poll.
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:37 am#18: Ah. Ok. So, you would have included people who gave Congress anything else that F, right? Nice to see how you liberals bias your polls.
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:42 am#18: Ah. Ok. So, you would have included people who gave Congress anything else that F, right? Nice to see how you liberals bias your polls.
Comment by MAF54 — June 22, 2007
Why does anyone listen to a creep who as usurped the name of a disgraced on-line wannabe pederast Republican Congressman?
-GSD
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:49 amRun Nader Run:
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:51 amhttp://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2007/06/run_ralph_run_1.html
The only reason the trolls are now screaming and shouting that both p arties are bad is because they want to split the Democratic vote. They will vote Republican no matter what. They are liars. As usual.
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:54 amHey trolls – stop trying to change the subject from your pathetic Leader’s historic low approval rating. And doesn’t it seem clear by now that it won’t be long before his approval is at 14%? Or are you reallly that delusional? You do realize he’ll be heading down to Crawford soon. I can only pray all of our cities make it through.
And I love the idea that we’re supposed to defend Congress. In case you hadn’t noticed, the Congress is not 100% Democratic. The Senate is very closely divided and the House is 232-201 which amounts to 53% Dem. Sooo… the 14% approval is just for the Democrats, dummy.
And even if it were, we’re not you, obediantly supporting our masters like dogs. In case you had forgotten, we threw a very popular president of our own party under the bus because he lied under oath.
You trolls got no game at all.
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:58 amPolls are irrelevant. Fortunately this Executive is making policies based on reality and not based on the whims of the moronic citizens of this country.
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:05 pmPolls are irrelevant. But this executive is making policies based, not on reality, but on his perception of events that is distorted by the time it reaches him in the protective little bubble he has crafted for himself.
He is so far out of touch that he doesn’t even realize that he is unpopular.
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:10 pm24. Ummm why are you touting the 14% then?
Do you have the ability to connect one thought in time with another or does it all just come out like diarrhea?
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:12 pmFor the record, I would not support Bush if he ate (human) babies.
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:18 pmJake,
“For the record, I would not support Bush if he ate (human) babies.”
Don’t you find it peculiar that the President would veto the stem cell bill, on ‘maoral’ grounds, but then doesn’t oppose it if privateers do it. So killing the unborn is ok as long as big Pharma can make a buck off it?
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:21 pm#26: Because the polls on the Congress (legislative branch, if you don’t know) actually matter.
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:25 pmI don’t see how you can make the wild claim that he’s making decisions based on reality. You know it was this administration that mocked the rest of us for being in the “reality-based community” and that they “make their own reality”.
And exactly who are the moronic citizens you speak of? I would certainly be accused by you of elitism for calling the good ol Amerucins morons.
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:26 pmRoboTroll 3100 reports:
We don’t govern according to polls.
The President is doing the hard work of being The Decider.
Polls are irrelevant. 54% of Americans say so.
Look over there! Nancy Pelosi’s approval rating!
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:26 pmRoboTroll 3100 adds:
We don’t pay attention to polls, except for the polls that tell us what we want to hear. Only THOSE polls matter. Former Congressman Mark Foley (R-FL) invented this concept.
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:28 pmhmm the congress polls matter but the president’s don’t
why is that? because you don’t like the president’s poll numbers?
and are the moronic citizens who don’t realize what a wonderful job The Leader is doing – are they the same citizens who approve of only 14% for congress?
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:28 pmMAF54 – you are really doing a sh!tty job of defending your arguments here you know
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:30 pmComment by Ex-Congressman Mark Foley @ 12.05 pm:
Polls are irrelevant.
Comment by Ex-Congressman Mark Foley @ 12.25 pm:
the polls on the Congress (legislative branch, if you don’t know) actually matter.
Flip-flop much?
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:31 pm#35: There’s no flip-flop. For us the polls don’t matter, for you they seem to matter. That’s why I keep bringing up the 14% “support”.
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:42 pmAnd a 14% for your new Demorat congress.
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June 22nd, 2007 at 12:43 pm#35: There’s no flip-flop. For us the polls don’t matter, for you they seem to matter. That’s why I keep bringing up the 14% “supportâ€.
Comment by MAF54 — June 22, 2007 @ 12:42 pm
Comment by Ex-Congressman Mark Foley @ 12.05 pm:
Polls are irrelevant.
Comment by Ex-Congressman Mark Foley @ 12.25 pm:
the polls on the Congress actually matter.
Ae you really this stupid? Or do you think we are?
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:47 pm#37 ~ The could add 50 points to that rating overnight by impeaching Bush.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:10 pm#33 How twisted can you be? What we are pointing out is the hypocrisy of this entire thread. You liberal get off on using either none or half the facts.
A Gallup Poll comes out and says Bush 27% and Congress %14. What do you post? Half the facts. So we are here to show you, the rest of the story.
You thought Pelosi and the rest of the under the rock dwellers were going to come in and clean house. Instead it is a whole new breed of criminals. First thing was stopping the war but what did they do? Nothing! They held the purse stings and could have just cut funding and ended the war. But your precious Democrats are nothing but self-serving slime balls and it did not take long to recognize.
I am so Happy it was Gallup doing both polls. Otherwise you would have used another liberal tactic and smeared whatever poll taker said 14%.
So even starting this thread was a stupid move on the liberal side. Someone is always watching you slime-ball tactics.
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June 22nd, 2007 at 1:11 pm#40 Happy Guy — just like you to lie about facts.
The Gallup poll you refer to can be found here, and it clearly says that the approival rating for Congress is 24%. The same poll for the president is 26%.
So you misstated both figures. Coincidentally, you UNDERstated Congress numbers and OVERstated Bush’s numbers. What are the odds of THAT mistake being made?
Tell us again why we should read anything you post?
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:23 pmCrump’s Brother:
Not if there aren’t the votes to ban all destruction of human embryos (think about IVF too). Perhaps if TP posts a new thread on the stem-cell issue, we can discuss there?
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:29 pmPolls are irrelevant. Fortunately this Executive is making policies based on 1) the whims of some imagined giant Santa in the sky, 2) the combined voices of his many d.t. hallucinations, 3) the chorus of hyperrich businesspeople who can’t stand to see a single dollar go anywhere but in their own wallets, and not based on the whims of the moronic citizens (e.g. the people who voted for him in the first place, among others) of this country.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:34 pmYou know, it is so funny I think I will post it again. Here is the first paragrph
June 21, 2007
Americans’ Confidence in Congress at All-Time Low
PRINCETON, NJ — The percentage of Americans with a “great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in Congress is at 14%, the lowest in Gallup’s history of this measure — and the lowest of any of the 16 institutions tested in this year’s Confidence in Institutions survey. It is also one of the lowest confidence ratings for any institution tested over the last three decades.
LOWEST OF ANY INSTITUION IN THREE DECADES! Ah,ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Oh my God this is the best way to finish a work week. ROTFL. You should all tatoo a big “L” on your foreheads so you will know who to talk to at parties. ROTFL.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:41 pmOr you can go right to the document cited above, the Gallup poll from which you selectively pulled data and quote the relevant paragraph:
According to the June 11-14, 2007, survey, 24% of Americans approve and 71% disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job.
Sounds to me that the “Approval Rating” for Congress is actually 24%, as opposed to the numbers with “a great deal” or “quite a lot” of “confidence” in Congress that you tried to pass off as a flat-out approval rating. All we ask is to compare apples to apples and to compare honestly. You seem unwilling to do that.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:50 pmAll these forkin idiot trolls who crow about the low approval rating of the “Democrat congress” are either trying to draw attention away from the Chimpster’s sinking “legacy” or they’re stupid. Maybe both.
Criticizing the Democratic leaders in Congress is valid, but to claim that the low rating of Congress is all at the feet of the Dems is ridiculous. It’s like a member of a bike race team runs over a rock and bends a rim, hands over the bike to a teammate and then complains that the teammate lost the race.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:57 pmI’m sorry, I posted the first paragraph. You went cherry picking and I don’t even see the section you pasted. So, if you want apples to apples then let’s look at the confidence rating from that report.
http://www.galluppoll.com/content/default.aspx?ci=27946
Confidence in congress -
The current confidence rating for Congress — 14% — is the lowest in Gallup’s history for that institution. Although ratings of Congress have never been high, they were at the 40% level at the time of Watergate in the 1970s, and again in 1986.
Confidence for the Presidency -
Americans’ confidence in the presidency has dropped concomitantly with the drop in Bush’s approval ratings. In 2002, 58% were confident in the presidency compared to the current 25%. President Bush’s job approval ratings have fallen from 84% at the beginning of 2002 to 32% today.
Apples to Apples its 14% to 32% – You lose, have a nice weekend. ROTFL
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmYou went cherry picking and I don’t even see the section you pasted. So, if you want apples to apples then let’s look at the confidence rating from that report.
My bad, I thought we were talking about “APPROVAL Ratings”…
Oh, that’s right — we were.
You obviously didn’t follow the link I provided (TWICE) because the quote I pulled was from the second paragraph, immediately under the headline Congressional Job Approval. Yeah, I can see how you might have missed that.
The first paragraph read like this:
“June 20, 2007
Congressional Job Approval Dips Again This Month
Democrats, Republicans now almost equally likely to disapprove of Congress
by Joseph Carroll
PRINCETON, NJ — The honeymoon phase is over for the new Congress, as the public’s ratings of Congress are down again this month. The latest congressional job approval rating (24%) is the lowest for the institution since Democrats took control of both houses in January, and is far below the 37% registered in February. The decline has been most evident among Democrats, whose ratings of Congress now match those of Republicans. Congressional job approval ratings are typically not positive, but ratings as low as the current one are uncommon. The poll also finds that only about one in four Americans say they are satisfied with the way things are going in this country, little changed since last month but still at its lowest point in over a decade.”
So, if you want to move the goalposts again, be my guest. But at least be upfront about it.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:15 pm“The current confidence rating for Congress — 14%”
the number’s so low because there are still 249 republicans
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:17 pmin congress.
FELLOW TPers!!!! TROLL ALERT!!!!!
“Polls are irrelevant. Fortunately this Executive is making policies based on reality and not based on the whims of the moronic citizens of this country.”
Comment by MAF54
Please read the comment and see that you are being played like a cheap fiddle!!!! Notice his subtle wit with calling ALL citizens morons. He/she is just having a bit of fun here.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:28 pmHere are some other numbers from Gallop:
“Who do you have more confidence in when it comes to handling the following issues: President Bush or the Democrats in Congress?”
Terrorism: Bush +1%
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:04 pmForeign Affairs: Congress +14%
Taxes: Congress +14%
Iraq: Congress +15%
Economy: Congress +21%
Health Care: Congress +21%
Social Security: Congress +21%
Federal Deficit: Congress + +34%
Oops, i forgot to mention those are not absolute percents in my comment #51. Those numbers represent the winner (Bush or Congress) and the difference between the winner’s percentage and the loser’s percentage. For example on Social Security the actual percentages are something like Bush 39% and Congress 60%. So i only posted the winner — Congress — and the difference in percentage which is + 21%.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:08 pmThe pedophile at 10:55: “And the democratic Congress is at 14%.”
The pedophile at 12:05: “Polls are irrelevant.”
Just as he tortures young male pages with sexual advances, the pedophile tortures logic on these boards.
Comparing congressional approval ratings to presidential is a classic case of apples and oranges. Mid to high 20’s ratings for Bush is in Nixon territory and reflects a rejection of his positions and him personally by a vast majority of the American people.
Ratings for congress reflect a number of different factors, not the least of which is the average person’s complete lack of knowledge about how Congress works. Some disapprove of what they’re doing. Some disapprove of what they haven’t done, like not impeaching Bush and Cheney. Some have a visceral feeling that things should be happening quicker. In addition, Congress almost always runs at lower approval ratings than a given President.
So when these dead-enders who still support the worst president in American history talk about Congressional ratings, they’re simply grasping at straws and I think most of us are aware of that.
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:08 pmHappy Guy: “Congress have never been high, they were at the 40% level at the time of Watergate in the 1970s, and again in 1986.”
During both of those periods, Congress was successfully challenging the power of the executive. These days, republicans have been able to successfully BLOCK the challenges to the executive, hence the poor reviews.
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:34 pmWhy does anyone listen to a creep who as usurped the name of a disgraced on-line wannabe pederast Republican Congressman?
-GSD
Comment by GSD — June 22, 2007 @ 11:49 am
MAF54:
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:24 pmHi: Just dropped by again to give you the chance to explain the moniker. I truly think once you have cleared up this misunderstanding, others will be more willing to take you seriously.
“When will you guys realize Americans don’t like Republicans or Democrats! Comment by The Joker”
Oh really, then why did a recent poll show that 56% of Americans would like to see a Democrat elected President while only 34% would like to see a Republic?
June 22nd, 2007 at 7:24 pm“Confidence in congress – The current confidence rating for Congress — 14% — is the lowest in Gallup’s history for that institution. Although ratings of Congress have never been high, they were at the 40% level at the time of Watergate in the 1970s, and again in 1986.”
Sorry Happy Guy, that is not apples to apples. This poll says that 14% have “a great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in Congress. Now if that number was gained when they were asked if you “have confidence in congress”, I suspect it would be much different. Plus, when did Congress become inhabited solely by Democrats?
I’m willing to bet that if a poll was taken asking people if they had “a great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in George Bush, that number would be in the single digits.
Finally, what was written in the post that you quoted was contradictory. You quoted:
“In 2002, 58% were confident in the presidency compared to the current 25%. President Bush’s job approval ratings have fallen from 84% at the beginning of 2002 to 32% today.”
In the first sentence it says that Bush’s approval ratings are currently 25% and then in the second sentence they say it is at 32% today.
June 22nd, 2007 at 7:35 pm27 percent huh . . .
Must be about time for another terrah attack on his own people .
Just to jump-start the propaganda .
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June 22nd, 2007 at 11:40 pm