Ed Schultz: ‘How Many Markets Do I Have To Beat Hannity In Before I Get 200 Or 300 Stations?’
Ed Schultz: ‘How Many Markets Do I Have To Beat Hannity In Before I Get 200 Or 300 Stations?’
Progressive radio host Ed Schultz appeared on MSNBC last night to discuss the new report by the Center for American Progress and Free Press, which revealed the conservative monopoly that currently exists over talk radio.
Schultz — the host of the most popular progressive radio show in the country — debunked the right-wing myth that conservatives dominate simply because they are winning in a “free market.” Schultz explained that the market is being controlled by a few ownership groups that are forcing conservative talk shows into local markets:
I beat Sean Hannity in Denver. I beat him in Seattle. I beat him in Portland. I beat in San Diego. How many markets do I have to beat Hannity in before I get 200 or 300 stations? It’s an ownership issue. … The fact is, it’s market opportunities and liberal talkers, progressive talkers are being held to a totally different standard than conservatives.
Watch it:
John Halpin — one of the principal authors of the radio report — noted that there is no “free market” under the current system. “There is little free speech or free choice in a market system that pushes out one-sided information 90 percent of the time on the radio,” he said. “Radio stations are licensed to operate in the public interest. Promoting one point of view over all others does not meet any reasonable public-interest standard.”
Transcript:
SCHULTZ: When you are talking about the spoken word, it influences a lot of people and it influences election in this country. There is no question. We are talking about market opportunities. Right now the liberal progressive format in this country — we are all fighting over the same 100 stations. Michael, I offer to you that ownership is an issue.
There are conservative broadcast companies in this country that do not broadcast one single second of liberal talk radio.
SMERCONISH: But Ed, I have to tell you something –
(CROSS TALK)
SMERCONISH: CBS would fire me in the morning and replace me with a communist if that communist would get them more revenue. It’s all about the scratch.
SCHULTZ: That’s not true. Michael, that is not true. I have got one of the top talk shows in Seattle, and I am only on one station in the country with Infinity. That’s not true. We are not being given the fair market opportunity.
SMERCONISH: I just don’t see it that way. I think it’s totally demand driven. And if were there a demand for whatever the program happened to be, believe me, they would put it on the air, because all they want to do is sell advertising and there is nothing wrong with that.
SCHULTZ: You know, Michael that’s almost insulting me. I beat Sean Hannity in Denver. I beat him in Seattle. I beat him in Portland. I beat in San Diego. How many markets do I have to beat Hannity in before I get 200 or 300 stations? It’s an ownership issue. Salem Radio, Infinity does one, ABC owns Hannity. It comes down to ownership. Actually, Clear Channel has been better than any of them.
The fact is, it’s market opportunities and liberal talkers, progressive talkers are being held to a totally different standard than conservatives.
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Let’s face it. Progressive talkers are boring and their politics are what most Americans oppose.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:42 pmSo when will “The Right-Wing Rabid Lemming Rapid Respond Team”â„¢ show up en masse to hijack this thread?
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:44 pmMAF54
Which is why the Republicans hold both Congress and the Senate… oh, wait.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:44 pmMAF54,
If that’s the case then why is Schultz beating down Hannity in nearly every market where they are both carried?
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:45 pm#3: And does it look like the Congress and the Senate are being controlled by the dems? They’ve accomplished nothing and there’s a reason for that.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:46 pmheres the lineup on the biggest maine talk radio station (WVOM) :
6-9 Maine in the Morning
9-12 Glenn Beck
12-3 Rush Limbaugh
3-7 Howie Carr
7-10 Sean Hannity
10-6a Coast to Coast
in other words its right wing all the time (except coast to coast I guess). no progressive or liberal hosts in sight.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:47 pm#3: And does it look like the Congress and the Senate are being controlled by the dems? They’ve accomplished nothing and there’s a reason for that.
Comment by MAF54
“The Veto-Proof Majority”… coming to a Congress near you, Jan ‘09!
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:51 pmI don’t buy this one. Radio station owners would have their mothers diary read if it would make them more money.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:51 pmEd Schultz is on a progressive station in Chicago that is so staticy it makes you crazy.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:52 pmFirst, he’s citing metropolitan areas, which tend to go blue over red, so he’s going to get a jump there.
Second Hannity has more conservatives to compete against than Schultz has liberals, which makes it easier for Schultz to take a large chunk of his potential demographic.
I’d like to see what would happen if they accounted for those two factors.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:52 pm#7: That and a dem president will never happen. There are safeguards in place against such a national security disaster.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:52 pmGood for Schultz pointing out the problems with the logic within the conservative screaming points: i. e., that the percentage of right wing to progressive programming is determined by a “free market” that is controlled by a monopoly.
How IS a situation where a few owners who control programming and push a strict conservative agenda in determiing the market a “free” market?
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:53 pmLet’s face it. Progressive talkers are boring and their politics are what most Americans oppose.
Comment by MAF54
And if anybody know boring it you. But I bet you wouldn’t know facts if they landed on the point of your head.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:55 pmThese threads pull in the right wing cretins, sheeple, and troglodytes to repeat their assigned talking points, which are nothing more than fact-free bloviations.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:56 pmDon’t even reply to them, or we will see another 3000+ thread that most of us abandoned to the Drudge readers (see the definition of them above).
We know the progressive is definitively and determinedly shut out of the free market radio, so rather than reply to the brainless ones, we should be pointing out the facts clearly and repeatedly to the FCC and to the local radio stations in your area. Letters to the editor would be helpful as well as writing your senators. When we finally get their attention with facts (not propaganda) we may see some improvement in the future.
For now, however, we have to deal with Senators like Inhofe and outlets like Drudge and Breitbart to report blatantly false stories, made up from thin air, and repeated on their sister outlets, to be repeated as fact by the brainless ones. They have a very effective closed circuit in getting their lies repeated so often that listeners come to believe them.
#7: That and a dem president will never happen. There are safeguards in place against such a national security disaster.
Comment by MAF54
Riiiiiight…. that’s why even Bob Novak is predicting a Dem victory next fall, and GOP strategists are already talking about ‘10. Or perhaps you believe the “Cross-dressing Community” will finally come forth in number and help sweep TRudi into office.
Oh, BTW, MAF54, your mom’s looking for you. She wants her dress back so she can go to work.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:56 pmThat and a dem president will never happen. There are safeguards in place against such a national security disaster.
Comment by MAF54
Yeah i’MAFool, like control of the national media. So you’re arguing against yourself.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:57 pmI listen to him here in SD where he dominates. And this is one the supposedly conservative towns in America.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:57 pmMAF54=Mark Foley
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:58 pm#1.
True, so true.
I tried listening to progressive radio no substance, all fluffy, not even funny.
It (progressive media) tries to be hip with SNL parodies that suck. Awful, shrill, nonsense, best describe Keith Odormann etc.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:58 pmHey MAF54…
Is there a reason you are using the screen name of former congressional pedophile Mark Foley?
Not that it’s surprising that someone with your views would seek to memorialize such behavior.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:59 pmBring in Hugo Chavez he’ll fix it real quick. Heh :D
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:59 pmMAF54, Tom Fooley Foley, is that you?…..I thought you were out thumbing through the pages these day’s..What’s ya doeing here you little reich winged pedephile player.? We libral’s would like to know.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:00 pmMAF54 - must really hate democracy and the free market. Arguing against allowing the people to choose their elected officials. Arguing against allowing the free market to work in talk radio. This is the face of the new GOP…anti-democratic, anti-free market, and full of hate.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmMAF54, Trudi Guliani called.
He wants his panties back.
And no skidmarks this time.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmTo answer Big Ed’s question:
‘How Many Markets Do I Have To Beat Hannity In Before I Get 200 Or 300 Stations?’
You can beat him in EVERY market you’re in and still not get that kind of distribution. At least not until there has been significant reform of the media and a roll back of consolidation (see my sig).
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmAwful, shrill, nonsense
Comment by Flaco
Awful, shrill, nonsense, that’s how we describe you too Flaky. Stop looking in the mirror and focus when you’re here, would you.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmyour mom’s looking for you. She wants her dress back so she can go to work.
Wow what is with all the cross dresser hatred on this site? I mean MAF54 is supposed to be the non-tolerant one. The only ones I have seen say anti cross dresser things are Jay Randall, Shane and Republic of Stupidity.
Is cross dressing that big of a deal with the left?
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:02 pmYou are wrong. This is the free market at it’s best. TP is more then entitled to buy up airwaves, open 300 stations, and market all the lefty junk they want. The only reason that hasn’t happened is because the American consumer doesn’t want it, thus it fails once you get outside the niche markets lefty’s have limited success in.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:03 pmCorporate Media Fascism at its finest.
The USA is dead. Long live the Chimperor.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:03 pmThis is the face of the new GOP…anti-democratic, anti-free market, and full of hate.
Comment by ben
Don’t forget “anti-American”.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:03 pmI listened to Ed Schlutz while I was in Portland. I’d never heard his show before. I liked him because he’s not afraid to say what he believes, even if it might piss off his listeners.
I also heard Tom Hartman one morning — excellent.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:05 pmMAF54, Trudi Guliani called.
He wants his panties back.
And no skidmarks this time.
Comment by Tom3
That’s why i’MAFatass is keeping them. He LOVES the skidmarks best.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:05 pmTundra -
The new face of the GOP…anti-democratic, anti-free market, and full of hate.
That’s why you are here. To spread your partisan hate. No thanks buddy. We’re not buying.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:05 pmComment by squegeebooo — June 22, 2007 @ 1:52 pm
First, he’s citing metropolitan areas, which tend to go blue over red, so he’s going to get a jump there.
Second Hannity has more conservatives to compete against than Schultz has liberals, which makes it easier for Schultz to take a large chunk of his potential demographic.
Okay, that’s TWO excuses why the “free market” model doesn’t work best here…
I’d like to see what would happen if they accounted for those two factors.
You mean, like, if there was actually a level playing field?
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:05 pmWay to go Ed!! Of course the sheeple and Kool-Aid swillers like Flake-o will never get it.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:06 pmWhen the libs are shown facts and asked to answer tough questions they turn to whining, lying or just general intolerant behavior. They say they want freedom of speech (theirs) but then want laws to limit opposition. Rush pulls in top rating and they just don’t get it.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:07 pmThanks for the Free Market link…….it confirmed exactly what 3000 people told you Wednesday when this whining fake study was conducted:
That’s the understatement of the year. Not only were they underserved, there were more of them than liberals (always has been). As if this knucklehead beat Hannity in San Diego. I’d like to see him back that up. Liberals don’t compete well and try to manipulate the government to help them in the free market. If there is a market for something, there will be something to fill that void. It’s a natural law as certain as the sun rising. The reason why there are few liberal programs are due to one of two reasons: There are not enough liberals listening or the programming sucks. I’m of the opinion it’s both.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:07 pmIs cross dressing that big of a deal with the left?
Comment by Tundra
I don’t get it either, Tundra. As far as I can tell, Rudy G dressed in drag for some show as a joke, and now he’s supposed to be a full-fledged cross-dresser? Please.
Who gives a shit anyway?
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:07 pmAre you folks advocating that we force the free markets to remove popular shows with new shows that you pick regardless of how ratings get effected?
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:08 pmOne way you can recognize a free market is that it represents its customers - if x% of cola drinkers prefer Pepsi, then roughly x% of cola sold will be Pepsi. For quite some time now, the US has been solidly 33% Democrat, 33% Republican, and 33% who declare themselves independant but tend to split equally between D and R. Obviously, the “free market” of talk radio does not reflect its customer (politically active Americans).
This doesn’t mean I support a legislative solution - I don’t think you can legislate freedom in any meaningful way. I say take talk radio for what it primarily is - entertainment. There are better forums for intelligent discussion of politics (such as blogs, newspapers, and magazines) and there is much better balance overall in these venues.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:09 pmWow what is with all the cross dresser hatred on this site? I mean MAF54 is supposed to be the non-tolerant one. The only ones I have seen say anti cross dresser things are Jay Randall, Shane and Republic of Stupidity.
Is cross dressing that big of a deal with the left?
Comment by Tundra
Oh if there was a cross dressing Dem candidate you people would have posters of him on every corner all ready. How hypocritical can you a$$holes be? Bill Clinton got a bl@wjob and you people acted like it was a disgusting act. I haven’t met the man yet who would say no if some young girl knocked on their door offering a freebie and Republicans acted like he was a freak of nature. Please get off your high horse and face your own stupidity.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:09 pmRoger_Roger -
Another hater from the right. Great! The new face of the GOP…anti-democratic, anti-free market, and full of hate.
That’s why you are here. To spread your partisan hate. No thanks buddy. We’re not buying.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:10 pm#8-
The point here is that radio stations are a government enforced monopoly ( its necessarily so- until recently there was only limited useable frequency space ) and there is no free market in place.
In otherwords, they dont have to read their mother’s diary on air, because there is no competition to take their revenue streams away from them.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:11 pmRush pulls in top rating and they just don’t get it.
Comment by Happy Guy
He spews propaganda, and you love the taste. We already got that part.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:12 pmTrudi Gliani has dressed up SEVERAL times.
As Bill Maher said, Julie-Annie knows his bra size…there’s something going on there.
Just another Republiqueer clOset case.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:12 pmTo you it is only a level playing field when you win.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:14 pmWhen the libs are shown facts and asked to answer tough questions they turn to whining, lying or just general intolerant behavior.
Comment by Happy Guy
“General intolerant behavior” is the hallmark of the Republican party. Who the f@ck do you think you’re talking to. You’re the people who believe every muslim should be treated to a stay at Gitmo or Abu Graihb and you call liber intolerant. What a moron.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:14 pmTo you liberals it is only a level playing field when you win.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:15 pmGood Morning Lady Z, …Troll’s enter stage reich in 3-2-1…..I skimmed the other huge thread the other day and noticed how many diffrent names with the duplicate message there were…Think just a hand full were working over time and using diffrent name’s….LOL…They can blow their usual snot all over the place today and I’m going to be playing out side….Such a wast of space and air, all of them….Black hearted, space user’s…..Have fun playing with them..Good thing what they are affected with isn’t catching…Poor thing’s, heir leader is at 26% and falling.
Hope you have a great day….Blessings
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:16 pmJust Me - Good call. But the folks on the right don’t come here to have a discussion. They simply want to spread their hatred for others.
Based on the the ball that Air America and Ed got rolling. I think station owners have just realized a huge market for talk radio. And as a few of the smaller stations take the risk, we will see a huge gain in market share for liberal and progressive talkers.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:16 pmLiberal radio doesn’t work because americans are afraid of the truth. Most american like being lied to, how else do you explain “Right-wingnut” radio?? Really, bring back the “Fairness Doctrine” and watch americans wise up right before your eyes
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:17 pmI’m confused about all this talk of “free markets”. Every economist, from Adam Smith on down, has agreed that free markets only exist in the absence of collusion, without a few players controlling most of the market share.
The radio ownership world is the diametric opposite of a “free market”. Radio was a free market when maybe 1-2 stations were owned by a single concern. Consolidation made the market skewed and unfree.
“Free market” is just con-speak for “oligopoly”. It has no relation to the real economic meaning of the term.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:17 pmshane
Oh if there was a cross dressing Dem candidate you people would have posters of him on every corner all ready.
Your right, at least some of us, such as people like O’reilly. But you guys are supposed to be the party of tolerance and etc, so when you attack people for things like crossdressing you come of just as bigoted as you claim the right is.
mikey r
You mean, like, if there was actually a level playing field?
ZING!!
Not exactly, I meant that what if they tweaked the ratings to account for those factors, just like grades (for example) are tweaked due to income level or previous years performance, or any number of other factors, when people start talking about private vs public education.
Okay, that’s TWO excuses why the “free market†model doesn’t work best here…
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:17 pmAnd just to clarify, it was nothing against the ‘free market’ but more of a saturation comment, by which I mean Conservative radio is a lot closer to it’s saturation point than Liberal radio, which will create more stations, and more competition between conservatives, which will push down individual conservatives ratings due to the plethora of choices.
“Is cross dressing that big of a deal with the left?
Comment by Tundra — June 22, 2007 @ 2:02 pm”
NO!
The point is being made about the HYPOCRICY of the RIGHT!!!!
They stand for “family values” and condemn anyone who does not follow the bible, yet it is fine if they sleep with boys or dress as girls…… This is acceptable, but god forbid if two people who love each other want to have the same rights as a heterosexual couple…..
This is the reason for the remarks…..
They are POINTING out this hypocircy. Whether its right or wrong, I don’t know but I am just explaining it to you.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:17 pm#7: That and a dem president will never happen. There are safeguards in place against such a national security disaster.
Comment by MAFIOSO54 — June 22, 2007 @ 1:52 pm
You keep telling yourself that Hermann.
Right up to the trials.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:18 pmLiberals aren’t whining.
We are screaming bloody murder at this corporate fascist takeover of the US.
Repuke trolls are whiners.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:18 pmHere’s something I can’t understand:
Conservatives say “most talk radio is right-leaning because that’s what the people want.” Then they turn around and say “I hate the stupid liberal media, they don’t represent America.” So from what I can gather, by their logic, since the media (here I mean the dominant media of TV and newspaper) is liberal, doesn’t that mean that more people prefer liberal press and hence are themselves liberal?
This is of course all based on their position and is no way grounded in fact.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:19 pmOddly enough, one the most conservative owners, Clear Channel, is taking the lead on this. They understand that they have been holding back the free market, and thus shooting themselves in the foot…or the wallet. It doesn’t take a genius to see the growth over the last 2 years of progressive voices across America. An market equilibrium will be reached….and it’s not even close yet, based on the growth numbers.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:19 pmIf you can’t comment or debate the stace that you find on progressive talk shows with reasonable and fact filled discourse, you can always call the hosts shrill and boring.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:19 pmIs cross dressing that big of a deal with the left?
Comment by Tundra — June 22, 2007 @ 2:02 pm
Not if we’re electing a prom queen.
But for the position of President of the United States it might make us look just a little silly.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:20 pmNo shane, you are wrong. I save links to this site when a thread gets so overboard it is funny. Would you like me to post some of my favorites? You are a bunch of conspiracy nuts, liars and just general nut jobs. You like to say Republicans are the intolerant ones, but the fact is you are anti-Christian, anti-Jewish and anti-American…
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:20 pmShane,
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 06/ 21/ slates-fred-kaplan/ #comments
Oh if there was a cross dressing Dem candidate you people would have posters of him on every corner all ready.
Why looks like you would have denounced him already on this side?
So you are against a cross dressing mayor/senator/president if they do it in public?
Comment by Tundra — June 21, 2007 @ 11:17 pm
Yes Tundra I am against politicians cross-dressing in public. I am against them dressing up in leather bondage attire in public too.
Comment by Jay Randal — June 21, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
It means that anyone who cross dresses and decides to run for the office of president should be made fun of. Get it?
Comment by shane — June 21, 2007 @ 11:24 pm
Sure, all you neocons are just bundles of tolerance.
Comment by shane — June 21, 2007 @ 11:31 pm
Umm yeah, you got me. I’m not the one that’s running around saying “It’s ok to laugh at cross dressers because they deserve it for doing something non-cross dressers should only be doingâ€
Comment by Tundra — June 21, 2007 @ 11:33 pm
Tolerance my ass.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:20 pmBut since you seem to think I am on a high horse, feel free to link to any post where I have insulted any person based on race, creed, national origin, sexual preference.
Well the last post on this topic got over 5000 comments thanks to right wing trolls with their panties in a knot.
Well see how this one does.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:21 pmI would think another reason for the imbalance is progressive minded folks are a more, “think for yourself” types. As opposed conservative listeners who are more like sheep. They’ll follow and believe any BS that’s fed to them- as long as it comes out of the correct mouth. Limbaugh is a perfect example, big ratings- due to idiots that don’t have the common sense to think for themselves.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:22 pmAre you folks advocating that we force the free markets to remove popular shows with new shows that you pick regardless of how ratings get effected?
Comment by Roger_Roger
No just restore the rules of the Fairness Doctrine that congress voted on and that the Supreme Court upheld in 1969. Your guy Ronald Reagan arbitrarily decided that Congress’ mandate was nonbinding and started chipping away at the law. The FCC in 1987 voting 4-0 ruled they could ignore the law and the Court of Appeals in DC decided to uphold it. So much for the Congress and the Supreme Court, nobody listens to them anyway.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:23 pm57. erock
You make a good point.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:23 pmTundra -
You have insulted everyone here by staying off topic and making inane straw man arguments. The GOP is full of hatred and blind ideology it strikes me as amazing that you don’t recognize these patterns in your posts.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:23 pmOk then, you balance talk radio, I’ll balance the evening news. Replace Katie Couric with ED Hill and let Bill O’Reilly and Brian Williams rotate on NBC.
I DARE the left to try and shut us down. We will paint you as the fascists that you are and win the next election.
With just 14% of Americans confident the Democratic lead Congress, you would think you people would focus on the agenda you were elected to office to enact. Unfortunately, you just want shut down opposition in the media.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:24 pm#56 Tom3 - you are 100% correct, sir.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:25 pmTundra -
Follow up. If you stayed on subject, I’m sure that people here would gladly have a good conversation with you about why talk radio is the way it is and where it is heading.
Sincerely,
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:25 pmBen - liberals are full of hatred for their country and themselves. Don’t you dare attack the GOP. It is liberals who would sell their souls to al qaeda and satan if it meant lower poll numbers for Bush.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:26 pmYou have insulted everyone here by staying off topic and making inane straw man arguments.
So you can go off topic, but if I respond I’m the wrong one?
Hatred?
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:27 pmYeah, feel free to find a post where I was hateful in the last 6 months
TP Hate Machine -
You don’t find it ironic that spew such vitriol in your posts using that moniker. The new face the GOP…enraged with hate.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:27 pmSo erock, let’s look at what your saying and turn it the other way.
Liberals own the media as in newspapers, network stations . . . . and have been pumping our their twisted liberal propaganda for years. Or as it has been called, “The Liberal Mediaâ€.
Conservatives find the small niche of Talk Radio and all of a sudden there is a need for “A Level Playing Fieldâ€.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:27 pmComment by ben — June 22, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
I made my comment number 8. No responses so I guess everyone agrees with me. I didn’t get a response from you till I defended cross dressers (Where I was called hateful)
Actually the most hateful thing I said was that radio owners would sell their mothers diary.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:29 pmBen - liberals are full of hatred for their country and themselves. Don’t you dare attack the GOP. It is liberals who would sell their souls to al qaeda and satan if it meant lower poll numbers for Bush.
Comment by TP Hate Machine — June 22, 2007 @ 2:26 pm
If your spew would be remotely close to the truth, I would have to ask you why is it we hate Bush and would want to see lower poll numbers? Really, I would llike to hear your train of logic on this.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:30 pmTP Hate Machine -
Your last post was very angry. I’m not sure where you get this deep sense of self hate causes you to talk like this. I personally don’t feel that you are adding anything of quality to the conversation of either side. If you are the new face of the GOP, you have not elegantly proven my point.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:30 pmThe Fuhrer was adept at using the airwaves for his divine purposes. Why do you think President Bush gives a radio address each week? Don’t let the liberal msm trash the airwaves by forcing stations to comply with silly rules and regulations that don’t make sense.
We write our own destiny people. Its in our stars.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:30 pmTP hate machine sure has some solid observations, but the only place where observations like his are truly deemed solid is on AM wing-nut radio.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:31 pmerock
Conservatives say “most talk radio is right-leaning because that’s what the people want.†Then they turn around and say “I hate the stupid liberal media, they don’t represent America.†So from what I can gather, by their logic, since the media (here I mean the dominant media of TV and newspaper) is liberal, doesn’t that mean that more people prefer liberal press and hence are themselves liberal?
Well you could look at the decline in ratings/circulation/etc in “traditional” media (the newspapers and TV news) and compare it to the increase in ratings of the “new” media (radio and some people include fox news) and use that to show that people are moving to a more conservative slant in their news sources.
Then you also have blogs, but I have no idea what total views are on them as a left vs. right argument. I know the left has the most popular one with the ‘daily kos’ but thats it.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:31 pmLooks like this is headed for another 4000 message post, full of the sheeple spewing their usual brand of shrill hatred while failing to address the substance. Typical…all hot air, all the time.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:31 pm“Yeah, feel free to find a post where I was hateful in the last 6 months
Comment by Tundra — June 22, 2007 @ 2:27 pm”
Tundra, you are a rarity….. MOST of the Repubs that come here DO spew hate….
Just like the Right GENERALIZES the Dems as Terrorists for wanting to ensure we maintain our Constitution, the Left GENERALIZES that all Repubs spew hate….
Take it easy….. Most do come here and spew hate…. Just read the posts…..
So if some return in kind, well that’s their choice… And I have done this also, so I include myself in that statement.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:32 pmEd maybe, sean never, ads never, and music always. Simple solution.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:32 pmIf Schultz keeps this up year after year he’ll have more stations. [He’s at around 100 now] Would any of you libs hazzard to guess how many years it took Hannity [talking politics, not sports] to get to where he is? It should also be noted that Schultz is the exeption rather than the rule.
Do I have to bring up Mario Cuomo, Jim Hightower, Gary Hart, Alan Dershowitz, Lowell Weicker and Air America again?
I’d also like to know just how liberal [pro firearm, anti gay marriage, anti abortion] Schultz is?
One should also be advised that Schultz moved his program into talk radio “prime time” to go up against Rush Limbaugh. Would you trade in your #1 earner by far for a relative newcomer who has a history of being a loose cannon? That would be bad business, but of course most libs are employees so I don’t blame you cats for not getting it.
Quit your bellyaching libs and learn to compete.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:32 pmYour right, at least some of us, such as people like O’reilly. But you guys are supposed to be the party of tolerance and etc, so when you attack people for things like crossdressing you come of just as bigoted as you claim the right is.
Comment by squegeebooo
Sorry I don’t fit your opinion of progressives. I am not tolerant at all of hatefilled, lie spewing neocons. Just like you’re not O’Reilly, we don’t all fit into your “liberal” niche.
In fact I think somebody like Rudy who uses the disaster of 9/11 to further his ambitions is the lowest form of scum and whatever it takes to bring him down, well it’s all right with me.
And I think Bush and Cheney are both guilty of treason. And if they are convicted, then I’m all for the death penalty. See how little you understand about many of us.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:33 pmMIKE MALLOY IS ON NOVA M Radio.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:33 pmComment by RemoveBush — June 22, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
Point noted and appreciated, I was getting worked up there for a sec.
Thanks!
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:36 pmBen - you accused the GOP of being full of hatred. That accusation makes you HATEFUL. AND don’t worry, I know I am hateful. I hate what liberals have done to this country and am truly scared that the fascist left will take away my right to bitch about it.
Thankfully, John Paul Stevens is retiring in two weeks and we can finally have a right-wing majority on the Court. They will protect my right to free speech.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:36 pmYou like to say Republicans are the intolerant ones, but the fact is you are anti-Christian, anti-Jewish and anti-American…
Comment by Happy Guy
That’s pretty funny since most of us are Jewish or Christian and we’re almost entirely American, Mr. Happy. Go figure.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:36 pmNotice how 2 trolls continue to switch names and continue the same crap with different names? I think it makes them think they are more omnipotent! Really SSDD. Time to move on.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:37 pmDon’t worry libs, Clinton and Boxer will take care of the “conservative” voice of talk radio for you.
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/2042.html
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:37 pmshane
whatever it takes to bring him down, well it’s all right with me.
I am not tolerant
then I’m all for the death penalty.
So the ends justify the means, -thats what were doing at Gitmo
your intolerant of people you disagree with, - thats how Bush treats diplomacy
and your pro-death penalties -thats how we like our hard criminals (murders and the such) and our terrorists
Sounds like its time to switch your registration card over to an R, your views mesh nicely with ours.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:39 pm#88: Ditto!
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:39 pm#85 Shane,
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:40 pmWell said. Rightwing radio talkhosts are full of vile truthiness. These same rightwing guys will move to the left, center or right as long as someone pays them.
#91 - they both deny it, but I am sure they at least believe it.
It will be nice when Hillary wins the nomination. We can expose her for the ultra-liberal fascist that she is. Barbara Boxer will be case in point #1.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:40 pm#90 Notice how 2 trolls continue to switch names and continue the same crap with different names? I think it makes them think they are more omnipotent! Really SSDD. Time to move on.
Comment by Bluedahlia
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:42 pmYeah, this is getting pretty obvious.
But since you seem to think I am on a high horse, feel free to link to any post where I have insulted any person based on race, creed, national origin, sexual preference.
Comment by Tundra
You support a party that believes only fundamentalist christians are good and everybody else is bad. You are guilty by association for supporting the neocon agenda. When you come out against the torture of muslim detainees by the administration I will listen to something you have to say about intolerance.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:43 pmMy name is really leftcoast but I have decided to clone myself in the hopes of increasing the writings of progressives.
Progressives rule
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:44 pmPresident Hillary will ship all you Repuke trolls to Gitmo.
When you whine about it, we’ll laugh at you and say, But Chimpy did it!
Precedent’s a bitch.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:45 pmDon’t worry libs, Clinton and Boxer will take care of the “conservative†voice of talk radio for you.
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/2042.html
Comment by Tracy
Ahh, Tracy…. The little azzhole-licker of TRAITOR coxucker PUNK Bush.
You NEVER answered WHY Bush and Cheney REFUSED TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH to the 9/11 Commission.
i.e., SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH to the AMERICAN PEOPLE
And then YOU refused to answer, commenting that I was a “bin Laden sympathizer”, when in REALITY,
TRAITOR Bush is a SAUDI OIL WHOREBAG, and an azzhole-licker of the Bin Ladens and Osama his BUDDY
which makes YOU a bin Laden sympathizer….
The FACT that Bush and Cheney REFUSED to testify UNDER OATH pretty much tells the story that they are TRAITORS to the USA and its LAWS.
See YOU in hell tracy (cause I’LL be THERE, and so will YOU),
Mr. Bush
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:45 pmMURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
COWARDLY AWOL COXUCKER PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA
TM-BushCrimeCo, Inc.
I hope you’re not taking about me my paranoid friends. I’ve been posting here using one name and email for a couple months now. Watch out for the black helos.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:46 pmOH CRAP here we go again with 3000+ rightwingnutz posts pure crap again…Hey Conservatives face it you suck a$$ 24/7.
And no don’t respond to this post you inbreed scum, I won’t be coming back to read your stupid talking points.
Conservatives suck
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:47 pmAdam (leftcoast) says-
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:48 pmAs a christian (non-fundamentalist) I will never vote lock-step with those who follow any pied-piper. I will never attend a church that preaches politics from the pulpit. I will only listen to those who speak of the love of Christ and learn discernment when approached by people who say they are christian but are not really.
#103 Adam, Way to go!
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:51 pmSounds like its time to switch your registration card over to an R, your views mesh nicely with ours.
Comment by squegeebooo
No it’s just time Democrats started playing the game with the same rules in Rove’s Republican playbook. Dems have been playing fair and it cost us our way of life. It’s time to play dirty just like you guys.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:51 pmNew York City is the perfect example of a network ownerships pushing the rightwing shitmachine down people’s throats who OVERWHLEMINGLY know better and aren’t interested.
Not only is Ed Shulz - the biggest name in progressive radio - not on ANY station in the NYC/NJ area, but neither is Stephanie Miller, or Air America’s own morning host Cenk Uygur . Instead, we get 24 hour rightwing fringe mentality on WABC and WOR.
The majority of New Yorkers are hardly interested in the hate speech of the “white christian male power structure”, yet that is what you are forced to contend with every time you turn on AM radio.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:51 pmAdam,
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:52 pmSo do you think these troll repubs should face public ridicule?
Leftcoast, Yes Adam. Place these Trolls in the stock without trial. Put a Scarlet Letter on their forehead. That’ll teach them.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:53 pmI really agree with this schultz guy.If I had a liberal to listen to I sure in the hell would not be listenin to all these lies the repubs tell and there fans soak it up.The only way we can get liberal talk is through xm or sirus.Common sense alone will tell you that this all politics.Why else would bush invite all these losers up to the white house before the elections.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:54 pm#105: I agree wholeheartedly. If you want to play with us, learn the goddamn new rules.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:54 pmYou support a party that believes only fundamentalist christians are good and everybody else is bad
I am a Libertarian who doesn’t believe in god, Where did I ever support the Christians?
You are guilty by association for supporting the neocon agenda.
Feel free to demonstrate a post that does that.
When you come out against the torture of muslim detainees by the administration I will listen to something you have to say about intolerance.
I have been against torture since the beginning.
Do you assume everything you post?
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:54 pmThe topic of Radio and the Fairness Doctrine is obviously a very sensitive area for neo-cons. Just witness the 3,000+ replies to yesterday’s post about talk radio. That should tell all of us that this is an area we progressives/independents should keep attacking. They own AM talk radio 98% to 2%. They’re deathly afraid of having to give up even a single percent more. They know how powerful talk radio is. And they know that if the public were exposed to ideas, progressive ideas, that Rush’s ideas couldn’t compete. You see neo-cons know their ideas aren’t as good as ours. So they can only win when they prevent our ideas from being heard.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:54 pmAdam, But what about habeas corpus? Oh yeah, we don’t have that. Then let’s throw trolls in with the lions.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:55 pmLet’s face it. Progressive talkers are boring and their politics are what most Americans oppose.
Comment by MAF54 — June 22, 2007
No. In markets that carry progressive radio, progressives do quite well, thankyouverymuch. Now, if you’d bother to read anything other than Drudge, you would have noted this in the report:
“…the gap between conservative and progressive talk radio is the result of multiple structural problems in the U.S. regulatory system, particularly the complete breakdown of the public trustee concept of broadcast, the elimination of clear public interest requirements for broadcasting, and the relaxation of ownership rules including the requirement of local participation in management.”
Too many big words for you?
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:55 pmLet’s just clear one thing up right now.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:55 pmSean Hannity is not conservative.
I agree wholeheartedly. If you want to play with us, learn the goddamn new rules.
Comment by MAF54
That’s right, live by the sword, die by the sword. Hope you neocons are happy with all the changes you made after the next election.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:57 pmED SHULTZ YOU BEAT HANNITY IN RATINGS FOR ONE SIMPLE REASON, **THE AMERICAN POPOLUS FINALLY CAUGHT-ON TO THE BULLSHIT THAT HANNITY, LIMBAUGH, INGRAHAM AND I’M SORRY TO SAY, MICHAEL REAGAN (DADDY IS ROLLIN’ OVER IN GRAVE) PREACH EVERYDAY. NOW YOU KNOW WHY THEY WEAR HEADPHONES, SO THEY CAN “HEAR THEMSELVES”……the self-righteous bastards.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:57 pmThus does a minority of creeps rip off the people’s airwaves.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:57 pmIn Chicago, WLS AM 890 broadcasts the Rush Limbaugh show. WLS (Disney/Citadel owned) got the license to broadcast on 890 AM for FREE. Its a powerhouse signal, 50,000 watts. Virtually any show they run will make millions of dollars. Its a FREE license to print money.
Since Disney/Citadel had the free license in 2006 when is it my turn to have ownership of this free license? What year will the guy down the street get his turn to own this license? Why should this free license be given to Disney/Citadel every year? If the license to this signal is free, and owned by the public, why can’t we all take turns owning it?
Is it too much to ask that if this license is given to Disney/Citadel free every year, and they make millions $$ with it, that they should offer programming representing the full spectrum of public interest? And not just 12 hours of neo-con programming all day?
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:58 pm#65
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Regulation/EM368.cfm
“The fairness doctrine’s constitutionality was tested and upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in a landmark 1969 case, Red Lion Broadcasting v. FCC (395 U.S. 367). Although the Court then ruled that it did not violate a broadcaster’s First Amendment rights, the Court cautioned that if the doctrine ever began to restrain speech, then the rule’s constitutionality should be reconsidered. Just five years later, without ruling the doctrine unconstitutional, the Court concluded in another case that the doctrine “inescapably dampens the vigor and limits the variety of public debate” (Miami Herald Publishing Co. v. Tornillo, 418 U.S. 241). In 1984, the Court concluded that the scarcity rationale underlying the doctrine was flawed and that the doctrine was limiting the breadth of public debate (FCC v. League of Women Voters, 468 U.S. 364). This ruling set the stage for the FCC’s action in 1987. An attempt by Congress to reinstate the rule by statute was vetoed by President Ronald Reagan in 1987, and later attempts failed even to pass Congress.”
Sound like to me the the PEOPLE of the United States basically told the Supreme Cout that contradicting yourself with your rulings is a sure way to get a BS law overturned.
BTW the TV news networks don’t abide and have NEVER abided by this doctrine…why should talk radio markets?
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:58 pmLeftcoast,
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:58 pmThe illiterate trolls have captured the site. What do we do? Nuke the site?
No, a better idea is to trace their IP the Homeland Security and have the NSA look into their lives (without a courtorder)
#116: That would apply if the next elections actually mattered.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:58 pm#121: Yes. Get rid of us and you’ll have your own, little echo-chamber for discussing your pretty little progressive ideas without anyone injecting nasty, opposing opinions into the discourse.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:00 pmDo you assume everything you post?
Comment by Tundra
No. I assume because you espouse most of the issues of the neocons and you argue against everything progressive you are a Republican. Of course posters like you are always independent or libertarians. Convenient hedge if you ask me.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:01 pmRandi Rhodes makes a similar claim about beating Rush Limbaugh.
I live in the northern California region, not exactly a conservative mecca. Until KQKE started carrying some of Air America’s programs (more than a year after Air America began), all stations up here were all-conservative, all the time. KGO’s ‘liberal’ broadcasters were on at night (Bernie Ward), and I wouldn’t exactly call them ‘liberal’–’corporate’, yes.
The couple of stations that claimed to be mixed and balanced (like KGO) have their TV newscasters doubling as radio broadcasters, and their right-wing roots come through loudly. Pete Wilson, KGO-TV’s anchor and on the afternoon radio schedule thinks of himself as a moderate. But how deluded is that when he calls the birth of gay San Francisco Supervisor Bevan Dufty and his friend lesbian Rebecca Goldfader’s baby Sidney a “travestyâ€?
On the other local stations, there’s a line-up to satisfy any WorldNet fan. Melanie Morgan, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Dr. James Dobson, Matt Drudge, Dennis Miller, Michael Savage, Brian Sussman, Barbara Simpson, Dr. Laura, Bill O’Reilly, Dave Gold. I’m only listing the more famous ones. The rest of the air time is filled with the lesser knowns or wannabe Limbaughs.
Ed Schultz isn’t really liberal either. He started as a conservative broadcaster and couldn’t compete up against Hannity and Limbaugh in that format. It wasn’t until he converted to liberalism in the late 1990s, in a marketplace bereft of liberal broadcasters (most left the business when they couldn’t find work after Reagan killed equal time doctrine) that he did well. Schultz isn’t well-versed or well-read in liberal politics. His democratic political beliefs are tightly nuanced. He’s what you would call a ‘Reagan democrat,’ who you may remember aren’t all that swift.
Corporations that own media organizations also own other businesses in other industries, so they can afford to not make money, and even lose money, in their media businesses. Whatever money they lose in radio, they write-off in taxes. They also get to control the microphone. They choose who gets to pitch to the public. Owning the microphone lets them prevent competitors from getting their advertising out.
I listen to the radio when I drive. If the only choices are Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly or Michael Savage, I switch the channel every couple of minutes out of irritation. When the only programming on the radio is conservative, that’s not a free market. That’s a monopoly.
When the choice is between anyone from Air America and any conservative, I turn the dial to the liberal and leave it there. Until a commercial, and then I start switching again. Until I realize it’s either the liberal or a Limbaugh type. By then, the commercial is over and it’s back to Air America.
Do you know any liberal who would prefer listening to right-wing broadcasters over left-wing broadcasters?
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:01 pm“Yes. Get rid of us and you’ll have your own, little echo-chamber for discussing your pretty little progressive ideas without anyone injecting nasty, opposing opinions into the discourse.
Comment by MAF54 — June 22, 2007 @ 3:00 pm”
Absolutely……
We don’t care for “nasty, opposing opinions”…
Now if the Right wants to debate on the FACTS and in a CIVIL manner, then great!!!
But I won’t hold my breath for that!!!
All you know is HATE HATE HATE!
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:04 pm#100
“You NEVER answered WHY Bush and Cheney REFUSED TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH to the 9/11 Commission.”
You asked me? When?
“And then YOU refused to answer, commenting that I was a “bin Laden sympathizerâ€, when in REALITY,”
Which thead was this in?
“TRAITOR Bush is a SAUDI OIL WHOREBAG, and an azzhole-licker of the Bin Ladens and Osama his BUDDY”
Well if you have some evidence of bin Laden today being in cahoots with Bush by all means present some….LOL!
“See YOU in hell tracy (cause I’LL be THERE, and so will YOU),”
Oh, no you go by yourself, no thanks.
BTW are you going to respond to the contents of the audio clip?…or do you think that Clinton and Boxer have no designs on trying to limit free speech and the freemarket?
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:05 pmSound like to me the the PEOPLE of the United States basically told the Supreme Cout that contradicting yourself with your rulings is a sure way to get a BS law overturned
BTW the TV news networks don’t abide and have NEVER abided by this doctrine…why should talk radio markets?
Comment by Tracy
How do four members of the FCC speak for the PEOPLE.
And yes, TV news networks did abide by the doctrine. Nice way to misinterpret.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:06 pm#105
“Dems have been playing fair and it cost us our way of life.”
Now that’s the funniest thing I have heard in a long time!
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:07 pmTracy, how old are you?
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:08 pmKen, you are right about Schultz, but who knows? Maybe he’s sincere, but no, he isn’t exactly progressive and his grasp of the issues seems to consists of what he reads on blogs each day. No independent thinking.
Then there’s Lionel on Air America. This supposed progressive really is a travesty. I’ll never tune my XM to him again, although I did try to like him, after his kid glove treatment of Donohue on the show a couple weeks ago. The very idea that they replaced a real progressive, Sam Seder, with this clown is insane.
Rachel Maddow is my talk show host of choice. Randi comes second.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:08 pm#121: Yes. Get rid of us and you’ll have your own, little echo-chamber for discussing your pretty little progressive ideas without anyone injecting nasty, opposing opinions into the discourse.
Comment by MAF54
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:09 pmNo, not rid of you, because you will still sit in the stockade. Eventually, you will be released once habeas corpus is returned and you have a fair trial.
NO, your ideas are not opposing; they are just filled with unitelligible remarks that are desinged to do nothing but disrupt intercourse.
Adam, Right on. MAF54 is beyond help
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:10 pm“Now that’s the funniest thing I have heard in a long time!
Comment by Tracy — June 22, 2007 @ 3:07 pm”
Please provide evidence of the Dems “caging” voters……
This is just ONE example of MANY!!!!
I’ll await your evidence of the Dems doing this….
Keep in mind that the Repubs did it 2x in the 1980’s and “Prommised” by signing a document stating so that they would not do this anymore….
So YES, the Dems have been playing fair…..
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:11 pmIt’s Bought Speech, not Free Speech.
The Media in America is consumed by Advertisers. They are the real customers. The audience doesn’t pay for programming. It’s the advertiser who pays for a demographic and there interest is not in high ratings, but in a target demo of age and gender.
That’s why my mother can say that every show she loves gets cancelled. Half of the time it’s true because she isn’t in the main consumer demographic of males, 18 to 34. Nope, sixtysomething females are invisible.
And that’s true about liberals and progressives. The adverstisers fear them because they actually engage in critical thinking. They don’t just drink whatever beer, drive whatever muscle car, eat whatever pizza, listen to whatever music is pitched at them. And so the Ditto Head is born.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:12 pmMAF54
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:13 pmWe all love you….but take a hike. You make no sense for our cause.
Tracy, that’s the whole debate. Should the people’s airwaves be at the mercy of the highest bidder? I already know your answer, so don’t bother. But nice to meet a friend of MAF54’s. He’s been too lonely too long.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:13 pmOne of the trolls earlier highlighted an important point. All of the places that Ed mentioned where he is beating slant head are metro areas. However some of those metro areas - San Diego for one - is so un liberal its pathetic.
The point, however, is that progressive talkers need to break into the “heartland” midwest, the intermountain west and the redneck south to have real impact. Ed is really popular here in the northern Virginia suburbs of DC but he’s preaching to the choir. We won’t succeed and the 50 state strategy won’t succeed until places like Liberal, Kansas (thats really the towns name) have progressive talkers on the radio rather than Rush, and places like Wedowee Alabama wake up to Stephanie Miller each morning. Progressive talkers and progressives in general have made considerable strides in recent years breaking down the redneck ceiling. We just need more straight shooters like Ed Schultz and we need them on the air in lesser markets soon.
By the way if you’ve not read Ed’s book “Straight Talk from the Heartland” get it and read it. There’s a very good story in there about how this former right winger was overwhelmed by some social issues that made him realize that the best side of the fence to be on was the progressive side.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:15 pmleftcoast/adam
You’re hilarious. :D
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:15 pmMAF54
We all love you….but take a hike. You make no sense for our cause.
Comment by free man
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:17 pmfree man,
I believe there is a voice of reason in you. Thanks.
Zooey,
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:18 pmIt’s just so damn fun!
Candyce, #131,
To me, Lionel is the left-wing’s Mark Levin. I don’t like him, but if it’s a choice between him and Mark Levin, I’ll pick Lionel.
I love Randi, but they moved her to the night shift and put Rachel Maddow in her place. I like Rachel, but I loved Randi. I switch the channel more since the change. That’s what radio execs don’t want listeners doing.
Sam Seder was great, and he’s been replaced with Mike Malloy in my region. Malloy’s politics are fine, but I don’t happen to like Malloy’s style. When he goes off on rages, it hurts my ears. I, again, switch the channel until I think he’s stopped yelling.
I love Laura Flanders, too. I love smart, interesting conversations, chock full of facts and explanations. I think most people do, too, and would welcome a return to thoughtful dialogues.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:20 pm#126
“Ed Schultz isn’t really liberal either. He started as a conservative broadcaster and couldn’t compete up against Hannity and Limbaugh in that format.”
So Schultz is fraud just looking for the big bucks?
“When the only programming on the radio is conservative, that’s not a free market. That’s a monopoly.”
BS! Here in Dallas Air America use to be on AM910, their rating stunk and the station couldn’t pay their bills because companies wouldn’t buy air time during Air America’s show time. The station had to change their line up to stay in business. If companies aren’t realizing any benefit of putting their commericals on certain radio station because of their broadcasters, then the radio station better get someone on who will get companies to commit. Remember people, radio stations need revenue to operate, and the money comes from commericals. They don’t operate for free. BTW NPR is always there.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:23 pmZooey,
It’s just so damn fun!
Comment by leftcoast/adam/free man
Heh. I didn’t pick up “free man.”
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:25 pmI wrote the FCC to ask that they expand more markets available for Sean Hannity. They IMMEDIATELY responded: ” We don’t know the hell who Hannity is, but we will give some thought to that guy Shultz, we like him?
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:26 pm#144 Zooey- here it is.
MAF54
We all love you….but take a hike. You make no sense for our cause.
Comment by free man
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:28 pm#128
Congress tried to revive the Fairness Doctrine many times AFTER 1987, and couldn’t get other members to support it. The people didn’t want it and still don’t.
“And yes, TV news networks did abide by the doctrine.”
No they didn’t. Do you know who Andy Rooney is?
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:33 pm#130
I will be 34 in August.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:33 pm“Second Hannity has more conservatives to compete against than Schultz has liberals, which makes it easier for Schultz to take a large chunk of his potential demographic.
I’d like to see what would happen if they accounted for those two factors.
Comment by squegeebooo ”
What I would like to see is an equal number of progressive talk shows to conservative talk shows. Then you could tell which are the most popular. As long as there are five conservative talks shows to one progressive talk show, people will always be able to say that conservative talk is more popular.
Lets ignore MAF54 - he’s a total moron and responding to him simply takes you down to his level. I promise that I will never again respond to this idiot. Except for my parting shot:
MAF54 - There is a special place in hell waiting for you and your ilk. You will be very pleased when you end up there because you will be able to hang out with all of your idols like the Bush Crime Family, O’Lielley, Hanndity and Malkin. You can all complain through eternity about those damn libtards and how they took back the country and spoiled all your plans.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:36 pmMedia consolidation has really hurt this country. In some small towns, they don’t have any local radio stations at all. If there is a natural disaster, i.e. a fire or tornado, etc. there’s no way to communicate that over the radio because the station is 1000 or 1500 miles away.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:36 pmThis really is a tragedy since local voices are not being heard at all. Before radio stations were bought up by Clear Channel, you had a lot of diversity on the air. Liberal, progressive, etc. The FM dial was more diverse as well since you didn’t have every station playing Top 40 all day everyday.
There’s virtually no competition at all not because of the free market, but because of lobbying to change the laws. It’s shameful.
The Sun Is Hot
An MSNBC study found that journalists’ political donations are 9 to 1 to Democrats and liberals. Journalists responded by vowing to hunt down that 1. Actually, there’s this whole website Media Matters devoted to finding and destroying the insidious bias of that 1.
What I wonder about are the liberals who insist that the media isn’t liberal despite all the evidence. There are even some who argue it’s biased towards conservatives. That’s pretty much like arguing the sun is cold.
LIBERAL: I hate the sun! It’s so cold!
NORMAL PERSON: Um… the sun is hot.
LIBERAL: Really? Then give me one example of the sun being hot!
NORMAL PERSON: It’s always hot. Right now, as we’re speaking, the sun is hitting us with its heat.
LIBERAL: It’s not hot; it’s corporate biased… and it’s cold!
Liberals are so stupid. Sometimes I want to burn them with fire — which is hot. Before anyone misconstrues my point, I’m not saying that liberals should be burned with fire, I’m just saying that I find it entertaining when pain is inflicted upon them.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:38 pm#149 MAF54 - There is a special place in hell waiting for you and your ilk.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:39 pmComment by Katie
Katie- Sooo well said. All of the post.
An MSNBC study found that journalists’ political donations are 9 to 1 to Democrats and liberals.
Where journalists money goes means nothing. It is the editors that call the shots, kill stories, assign stories and most importantly EDIT those stories to fit an agenda.
You would know that if you worked with the media or knew anything about them.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:41 pmThis is the first time Ive read a thread all the way down you people are nuts(in a good way)I think we need diversty.
June 22n