White House On Cheney Ignoring Executive Order: ‘It’s A Little Bit Of A Non-Issue’
White House On Cheney Ignoring Executive Order: ‘It’s A Little Bit Of A Non-Issue’
During a heated press briefing today, White House spokesperson Dana Perino tried desperately to downplay yesterday’s report showing that Vice President Cheney has exempted his office from a presidential executive order designed to safeguard classified national security information. At one point, Perino called it “a little bit of a non-story.”
She repeatedly said that Cheney exempt from a mere “small portion” or “small section” of the executive order, and that President Bush never intended for the executive order to apply to Cheney any differently than it applies to the president’s own office.
Perino later contradicted herself: first, she stated definitively that Cheney’s office is “complying with all the rules and regulations regarding the handling of classified material.” But when questioned how she could be sure, Perino said it was a “good question” and admitted she isn’t “positive” that his office is in compliance.
Perhaps most importantly, Perino failed to answer two key questions raised by the scandal:
– Perino offered no explanation for the fact that Cheney’s office followed the requirements of the executive order in 2001 and 2002, then abruptly stopped. “That I don’t know,” she said. Later, she responded sarcastically when asked whether Cheney’s office would offer more than the one-line statement it released yesterday. “I’ll ask the vice president if he’ll come to the press briefing room and answer your questions,” she said.
– Perino refused to say definitely whether Vice President Cheney is part of the executive branch. She would only say it is an “interesting constitutional question that people can debate.”
Watch it:
UPDATE: Steve Benen has more.
Transcript:
SPEAKER: WHITE HOUSE DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY DANA PERINO
QUESTION: Part of the rationale the Vice President’s Office gave is that as president of the Senate he’s part of the legislature — that he was legislative branch, almost distancing himself from the executive branch.
PERINO: You know, I saw those reports yesterday, as well. And I think that while that’s an interesting constitutional discussion about the separation of powers and different branches, between executive branch and legislative branch and different functions, under the role — as his unique role as the vice president of the United States.
The point of Chairman Waxman’s letter yesterday regarded the small portion of an executive order of which the president is the sole enforcer and of which he did not intend for the president (sic) to be treated separately from himself. QUESTION: Is the President’s Office and the Vice President’s Office — are they handling this the same way?
In other words, Waxman was asserting that the Vice President’s Office was saying, We don’t want to be inspected to make sure that we are following the procedures laid out in this E.O.
Is the president — does he feel the same way?
PERINO: The president and the vice president are complying with all the rules and regulations regarding the handling of classified material and making sure that it is safeguarded and protected.
PERINO: What is different is, regarding that small section of this ISOO office, that they are not subject to those — they are subordinate to the sole enforcer of the E.O., which is the president of the United States, and they are not subject to such investigation, as I understand it, as I read the E.O. and as I had preliminary discussions in between the gaggle and today.
QUESTION: Well, then why did the vice president not have any issue with this in 2001, 2002?
PERINO: That I don’t know.
All I know is what I have here, which is the executive order that was released in 2002, I think, did not intend to treat the vice president any differently than he would treat the president.
QUESTION: So, Dana, what are you saying? So the president supports the vice president saying that he doesn’t want these inspections?
PERINO: I don’t think that he doesn’t — it’s not a matter of wanting; it’s a matter of who is subject to them.
And I think that it’s important to remember, it’s — the vice president, his office yesterday said that they are in full compliance with all laws regarding classified materials, as is this president.
And the president expects that of everyone here at the White House, and of all the agencies across the executive branch that handle classified information.
QUESTION: So he’s supporting what the vice president is doing, saying he’s not part of the executive…
PERINO: If you would go back and you read the E.O., it’s — the president’s intention was never to separate the vice president out from himself. The president, as the sole enforcer of the E.O., is instructing agencies on how to handle classified material on a range of issues.
The issue that we were talking about yesterday — that Chairman Waxman was talking about in his letter yesterday is a very narrow one.
QUESTION: But the people at the National Archives say that they are meeting with resistance from the Vice President’s Office, and only the Vice President’s Office, not from the White House, not from the Office of the President.
PERINO: That’s what I just said. I don’t think that there’s any — think there’s been any complaint about compliance except for, in this regard, to the Vice President’s Office.
And as I just said, the president’s intention was not to have them separate. If you read that, that’s clear in the E.O.
In the E.O. as well, the ISOO does have the capability to go to the Department of Justice and ask for an opinion, of which they have done.
QUESTION: OK. Was that in January? They still haven’t heard anything.
PERINO: You’ll have to put that question to the Department of Justice.
QUESTION: So they have to apply to the president for any document that the vice president had charge of?
PERINO: No, all of the president’s documents and all the vice president’s documents are safeguarded. They are held. They are held in the archives as part of the Presidential Records Act. And all of those rules and regulation are followed.
The small section, regarding just the reporting requirements to this group, ISOO, that’s out of the National Archives, is different.
QUESTION: Why? He’s a public servant, paid by us. He’s accountable.
PERINO: And all the laws and regulations regarding classified materials are being complied with. And that’s what you as a taxpayer should expect.
QUESTION: How do we know that?
PERINO: Because I think that if they weren’t, there are other ways where people could challenge him.
QUESTION: What do you make of what Congressman Waxman referred to as absurd, which was the vice president’s contention that his office was not part of the executive branch?
PERINO: Well, I think — as I said, I think that that is an interesting constitutional question that people can debate.
What I think is absurd is…
(CROSSTALK)
PERINO: … is Chairman Waxman…
(CROSSTALK)
PERINO: I think what’s absurd is Chairman Waxman…
QUESTION: Hang on a second. Do you agree or…
(CROSSTALK)
PERINO: I think what is absurd is Chairman asserting some sort of authority over the president regarding an executive order of which he is the sole enforcer.
QUESTION: Do you agree with the contention that the Office of the Vice President is not part of the executive branch?
PERINO: What I know — and I’m not a lawyer. And this is an interesting constitutional question that legal scholars can debate — and I’m sure you’ll find plenty of them inside the Beltway — is that the vice president has a unique role in our United States government. He is not only the vice president of the United States but in that role he is also the president of the Senate.
I will let them go ahead and…
(CROSSTALK)
PERINO: I will let that debate be held. But what I’m answering questions on is in regard to, this morning, was Chairman Waxman’s accusations about this small provision, going back and reading the E.O. and realizing that the president did not intend to have the vice president treated any differently than himself, and remember that the executive order is enforced solely by the president of the United States.
I think this is a little bit of a non-issue.
QUESTION: But the director of the Information Security Oversight Office, in his letter to the attorney general, says that the Vice President’s Office did initially comply, in 2001 and 2002, and then stopped complying.
They view that the Vice President’s Office should be participating and is not, and further suggest that the response from the counsel to the vice president was to eliminate the role of this office in handling and supervising how these classified documents (inaudible).
PERINO: I’m not disputing that there is a dispute in regards to how this executive order should be — who should comply with the executive order in regards to ISOO’s questions about the Vice President’s Office.
They have the right to seek a clarification from the Department of Justice, of which they’ve asked for. That has nothing to do with the president or our office in terms of the timing of when that’s released.
I’m going to ask you to take that to the Department of Justice. I haven’t talked to them about that today.
QUESTION: Does the president think the vice president is too secretive?
PERINO: I think the president thinks that the vice president is a great representer of the United States, and that he complies with all the laws regarding secret documents, classified documents, and that he’s someone who truly believes in the institution of the presidency and in keeping that intact.
QUESTION: Does the president think that the vice president — does he agree with the vice president’s handling of this matter?
PERINO: I don’t see any reason not to agree with it, especially when you read the plain face of the E.O.
(CROSSTALK)
QUESTION: And he’s not concerned at all that there’s too much secrecy, that he complied with it before or why he wouldn’t want to do the same thing he was doing before?
PERINO: I think that what the president wants to make sure of is that all of the laws and regulations regarding classified materials are being followed. And he is assured that that is the case.
QUESTION: Even though it’s still being looked at in the E.O…
(CROSSTALK)
PERINO: I don’t think there’s a question of the handling of the documents. There’s a question of the reporting.
In the handling of the documents, we are confident that we are in full compliance.
QUESTION: And does he have concerns about the reporting?
PERINO: I didn’t talk to him about that. I don’t believe so, no.
Especially since, as I just said in the E.O., he’s the sole enforcer of the E.O. and he never intended for the vice president to be treated separately from himself.
QUESTION: Dana, can I just clarify, since he’s the sole enforcer of the executive order, was the White House Counsel’s Office knowledgeable about the letter trail, the dispute trail when you consulted them today to ask about…
PERINO: Well, you know, I think that — this letter trail goes back many years and we have a new counsel and many new people in the Counsel’s Office.
So I’m not exactly clear on that.
QUESTION: … some members of the Counsel’s Office preceded Mr. Fielding. So I’m curious, when you consulted — can we write or say that the White House Counsel’s Office, on behalf of the president, was fully knowledgeable of the dispute before…
PERINO: I can’t tell you that right now, because I don’t know. But I can check.
QUESTION: Dana, can I just…
PERINO: There are a lot of new people, and I can’t tell you that the people that I talked to were here before.
(CROSSTALK)
PERINO: Sure, yes, I’ll go back and check. But the people I talked to weren’t necessarily here before.
QUESTION: Can we just go back to this phrase that the president never intended for the vice president to be treated any differently than? I’ll confess, I’m missing the whole thing here.
The vice president’s not getting treated any differently. He’s acting differently, according to the National Archive.
PERINO: No, but in the E.O., who is directed and how they respond. If you look on page 18 of the E.O., when you have a chance, there’s a distinction regarding the vice president versus what is an agency.
The president also, as the author of an E.O. and the person responsible for interpreting the E.O., did not intend for the vice president to be treated as an agency. And that’s clear.
QUESTION: But the Archive doesn’t have an issue with, say, the way the president’s handling this; the inspectors, the procedures, the protocols, all being followed. It’s the vice president who is acting differently.
PERINO: Right, but that’s because the president never — the president treats him differently in this E.O., separate from an agency.
And, again, I’m not disputing that there’s a dispute that the ISOO has with the Vice President’s Office, and they have a right under this E.O. to take that to the Justice Department. But they are not — but the vice president was not to be treated — to be interpreted to be treated separately from the president in this executive order.
QUESTION: Can we expect to hear from the vice president as to why his office did comply for two years and then made a decision to stop complying?
(CROSSTALK)
PERINO: If I could — I’ll ask the vice president if he’ll come to the press briefing room and answer your questions.
QUESTION: I mean, it is a little curious that all of this breaks and all we get is, like, a line response from the Office of the Vice President: We’re confident that everything is kosher.
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What the f%ck?!?!
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:16 pmwell, Clinton did it
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:17 pmClinton did it too.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:17 pmWell, it is a non-story. There's no-one with authority to challenge WH on this.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:17 pmLooks like we get a snow-job even when SnowJob isn't behind the podium.
It is way past time for someone to get the hook and pull Darth Cheney off the stage. We have let this repugnant little man run wild for too long.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:18 pmIt's all non-issue with these people.
They follow the law when it's in their interests and ignore it when it's not.
They create new laws when it's in their interests and.....well, create more new laws too.
But, the constitution doesn't give these criminals the power to do most of what they do, and it's high time we started demanding that the whole government follow the law that governs them - the constitution.
some reading:
"What Happened to the Land of the Free?"
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:20 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/what_happened_to_the_land_of_the_free
I need a solid piece of man meat to make me feel whole today. Jake, are you up for it?!?!?
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:20 pmThere’s no-one with authority to challenge WH on this.
Gee, it's too bad Cheney's not part of the White House anymore. He's fair game now.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:21 pmMAF54,
I will work you up and your bunk beds little boy. I think you need a spanking.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:21 pmWow. Might the Press Corpse be returning from the dead?
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:21 pmPlease ignore the piss-soaked trolls.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:21 pmI seriously wonder how these people can sleep at night.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:22 pmKey issue: Bush never intended for the executive order to apply to Cheney any differently than it applies to the president’s own office. Have fun with that, folks.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:23 pmThis air head is a non-entity.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:23 pmOh Zooey... don't be so hard on us.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:23 pmPlease ignore the piss-soaked trolls.
Comment by Zooey — June 22, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
They remind me of a pissed soaked cigarette butt in the trough at a baseball stadium as well. That is about what they provide to the rest of the world.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:24 pmS'OK Dana, we'd rather see him answering those questions from the dock of his impeachment trial.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:24 pmwho cares what happened, dana is A HOTTIE!
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:24 pmJake,
You can be hard me though. VERY HARD!!!!
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:25 pmMAF54,
Can you really take it? I wouldn't like to hurt you, my love.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:26 pmHow many more sponsers will there be for the Cheney Impeachment now? It should be easy since he has no Executive Branch privilages.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:26 pmif it's a little bit of a non-issue, does that mean it's a lot of an issue?
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:26 pmCome on boys. We need more lesbian sex here.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:27 pmGee, what part of the Constitionrefers to the VP? Article II - The Presidency (aka Executive)
How F'ing stupid do they think Americans are?
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:28 pmI don't think Cheney, claiming to be the 4th pillor of the US government is a non-issue. I am sure they would like it to be a non-issue, since any investigation will most likely end with cheney skipping the country for Dubai, while Haliburton puts him up.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:28 pmAn "interesting constitutional question?" They seem to think the Constitution as "quaint" as the Geneva Convention. Didn't Bush once allegedly say it's "just a piece of paper?"
If impeachment's off the table, may I suggest a mass treason trial in its place?
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:28 pmRecommend new headline - "President's stuff doesn't know which branch of Government the Vice President falls under"
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:29 pmLet me clarify that for you: If Dick Cheney is not part of the Executive Branch, then he may not exercise any authority vested in the Executive Branch by the Constitution.
Clear that up for ya?
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:30 pmThis just in: A transcript of a debate between two noted constitutional scholars:
Scholar #1: The question is this: Is the vice president part of the executive branch?
Scholar #2: Yes.
Scholar #1: Let's break for lunch.
Scholar#2: Want to do Mexican? I'm dying for fish tacos.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:32 pmHere's a quickie poll:
Cheney's actions represent a:
a. Misdemeanor
b. High Crime
c. Impeachable offense
d. All of the above
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:33 pmDana Perino, LSOS. Lying sack of shit.
-GSD
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:34 pmWell, it is a non-story. There’s no-one with authority to challenge WH on this.
Comment by MAF54 — June 22, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
If the crime family can do it, so can the Democrats after '08...winger logic.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:34 pm"Comment by RUCerious — June 22, 2007 @ 3:33 pm"
A big fat D
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:34 pmWow! Let me get this right...If they can make up their own rules and now they (bush/cheney) don't have executive privlage we can take cheney down.?...Please say they made another big mistake and it lead's to prison for both...Please...Blessings
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:39 pmRemove Bush ~ Captialization noted...:}
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:39 pmThey remind me of a pissed soaked cigarette butt in the trough at a baseball stadium as well. That is about what they provide to the rest of the world.
Comment by kasinca
That's the visual we should get every time we think about responding to a troll.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:39 pmThis just in... NASA is not sure if Space Shuttle is one of their aircraft.
DOD questioning if Navy is really part of the military
Dept of Interior... Yellowstone? What's a Yellowstone?
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:40 pmI will say this...at least she's hot.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:42 pmPut lipstick on the pig ... it's still a pig!
When did this LYING bitch come back?
Is the other LIAR (Tony McSnow) having second thoughts about returning? Is he dead? Is he sick?
What is Dana doing other than LYING?
And do these clowns realize everyone is on to them with their LIES?
Could the press be slowly turning a corner to being journalists as they continue to lose TV viewers to the blogs?
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:43 pm"How many more sponsers will there be for the Cheney Impeachment now? It should be easy since he has no Executive Branch privilages."
Actually, his next argument will be that he can't be impeached because is not part of the Executive Branch. But, here's what it says about impeachment:
The Constitution grants to the House the power to impeach "The President, the Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States."
So, that argument won't work because the constitution specifically names the Vice President.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:43 pmPerino, the WH version of a dumb, blonde joke.
Will the WH press corp eventually get tired of being made fools of on a daily basis and really get after the tough questions?
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:45 pm#39 - Fridays are chemo days for the Snowflake. He'll be back next week with a little less, but more grey hair.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:46 pmSo Dana thinks VP Cheney should be treated no differently than President Bush. And the VP is not part of the Executive Branch. Which would then mean the President is not part of the Executive Branch. Wow - no one is in charge here. That sure explains a lot over the past 6 years.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:47 pmKarl Rove Arrested, is the President Next?
June 22, 2007 Karl Rove arrested
Unconfirmed sources report that the infamous Karl Rove, President Bush's right hand man, has been arrested. Rove was taken into custody today by federal agents. Rove's arrest means big trouble for the White House and could mean an a future indictment of the President on conspiracy charges related to the leaking of CIA agent Valerie Plame's identity.
All of Washington is abuzz this today as news of Karl Rove's arrest spread inside the beltway. Republican strategists have convened an emergency meeting to find a way forward for the President and the country. Of particular interest to the group is who will become the new Vice President if Cheney is elevated after President Bush is indicted.
"Rove's absence from the White House poses a serious credibility problem for the Bush administration." Says web pundit Andrew Sullivan. "With Rove out of the picture many people are going to wonder who is running the show at the White House. If the President can't find someone to run the country, and soon, I predict that this administration will crumble under the weight of own incompetence. I don't even want to think about what would happen if Bush is indicted."
"Rove may be a soulless bastard, but at least you knew he was smart enough to run the country." Commented Harry Reid, Senate Minority leader. "With the President up there making decisions by himself I figure we are in for some real trouble."
Rove long know as 'Bush's Brain' or 'turd blossom' by his friends is being held in a maximum security federal cell. When asked why Rove was being given such protection special agent Mr. Smith indicated it was to protect him from 'those who wouldn't like him to spill his guts'. The FBI is worried that forces inside the administration would rather see Rove dead then to allow his to tell what he knows about the happenings inside the Bush administration.
"I wouldn't want to be Rove right now." Says a Washington insider. "He has got half the country hating him and the other half worried that he is going to spill the beans. I think keeping him under lock and key is the only way he will survive until his and possibly the President's trials are over."
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:49 pmCome on boys. We need more lesbian sex here.
Comment by Valiant Venus
Why vv, you're here. That should be enough to keep the boys happy.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:50 pmOne thing you gotta say in Dana's favor -- she's probably paid pretty well to carry the water for BushCo. Contrast that with Jake, Congressman Foley (MAF54), Happy Guy, and the rest, who probably make minimum wage -- no -- less than minimum wage, since these are Republicans we're talking about. Heck, I'll bet m12 is just an intern. The Troll Patrol is willing to sell themselves cheap. No surpise there.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:51 pmAh yes Katie but doesn't the other side of their made up new talking speech for today also allow us to remove them from the white house and all government meeting's for breaking the self imposed lease on said white house..LOL..Like non payment (refund's to the public for theft of office, treasury etc...Then there;s causing hundred's of thousand's of deaths while pretending to be official's..This madness could go on for, oh say a few day's...Blessings
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:51 pmDana Perino, LSOS. Lying sack of shit.
-GSD
Comment by GSD
Really, did Tony Snow already reach his maximum allowable bullshit quota for the week so Dana had to fill in for him.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:53 pmThey remind me of a pissed soaked cigarette butt in the trough at a baseball stadium as well. That is about what they provide to the rest of the world.
Comment by kasinca
That’s the visual we should get every time we think about responding to a troll.
Comment by Zooey
Mmmmmm, baseballlllllllll.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:54 pmI will say this…at least she’s hot.
Comment by I Love Dana
She's hot for a Republican. Now snap out of it.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:55 pm....first he says he is and then he's not; then he says he will and then he won't....so whaddya gonna do?? If Cheney doesn't want to be included in the "Executive Branch", then let's put a stop to his use of "executive privilege", shall we? He wants it both ways which is not possible. He either is part of the Exec. branch or he isn't. If he is, then he needs to cough up the facts and info; if he's not, then no more "executive privilage" invocation for this dude from hell.
The people are ready to barf on the heads of this administration - just when you think it can't possibly get any worse - voila! They outdo themselves.
Cheney believes himself to be the master of bullshit and doubletalk anyway but this one sounds like the ramblings of a madman and not a statesman. I believe Cheney's occluded arteries are not strictly in his aorta....but leading to his brain now as well.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:55 pmEither you are the VP in the Executive office or you are no - if you are not, then get the hell out of the White House. Either you invoke executive privilege or you don't have it at all, so cough up your secrets.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:55 pmDick is having it both ways.
He exeercises executive privilege when it suits him and when it doesn't, he claims he is exempt.
This bald-faced, lying, arrogant, smug and incorrigible, impenitent and obstinate dick has to be removed from office.
Where are the repugs with balls enough to recognize flagrant corruption when they see it in one of their own and rid themselves of this albatross?
let me get this straight - the VP's office is not part of one of the three branches of US gov't? I guess the implication is he's not bound by any of the same rules... interesting claim... and total crap... I mean, the gaul of this man! where is that impeachment petition for Cheney? more lawmakers should climb on board with that after Cheney tried to make himself above the law!
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:58 pmDana is representative of the 32% 30% 29% 27% crowd, just like MAF54 and the gang here. Uniformed, and proud of it.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:58 pm#48 Hi Shane! I guess Snowflake already reached his numbnuts of the week quota and they've brought in Airhead Dana as his substitute. The press chewed Dana up and spit her out handily when she was filling in for Snowjob; I'm shocked that she is either that naive or overtly imbecilic that she would even show her face after making such a fool of herself on national television. The sad fact is that Dana believes herself to be intelligent and articulate; that is, until they ask this airhead something which is neither on the cue cards, cheat sheet or talking points....then she's a major looney-toon.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:59 pmDana is hot I wanna jizz all over ta-ta's!
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:00 pmThis story even made the fake news we call the MSM.
Cool.
Maybe someone else besides us blogging types will get upset.
I'll even let someone else have my "upsettedness" over it.
Cheney will get his, even if we all never see it.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:00 pmdoesn’t the other side of their made up new talking speech for today also allow us to remove them from the white house and all government meeting’s for breaking the self imposed lease on said white house..LOL..Like non payment (refund’s to the public for theft of office, treasury etc…Then there;s causing hundred’s of thousand’s of deaths while pretending to be official’s..This madness could go on for, oh say a few day’s…Blessings
Comment by Sharon — June 22, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
Sharon, i really hate to do this but it pains me so often when I see you post. You usually make a lot of sense, but please, please stop using apotrophes when you pluralize nouns...
I know spelling and grammar mistakes on these boards are pretty forgivable, it probably doesn't bother anyone else and I'm far from perfect, but the particular error I'm pointing out doesn't seem like it's from mistyping. It's from misunderstanding.
Again, sorry to do this. Feel free to heap abuse on me if you like, but at least consider my advice.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:02 pm#55 "uninformed" is an understatement and epitomizes Dana. She could be the new poster gal for "DUMB AND DUMBER" if you ask me. It's pretty pathetic to see how proudly she struts around as though she has a brain in her head. It's comical, actually. I fear these wet-behind-the-ears youngsters are being duped by the Rethugs and placed in position where their being "yes men/women" is a foregone conclusion and their personal doom is a self-fulfilling prophesy. It's actually sad to see young, impressionable adults "used" so blatantly by elders who should know better. Amazing that their own personal BS "filters" are incapable of picking up the not-so-subtle, quite obvious fact that they have neither the experience or background to be doing what they're being asked to do. Pathetically appalling - for these kids as well as for their bosses.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:02 pmThis is an Arrogance of Power! He claimed executive privelege during the energy consultation requests and now says he is part of the legislative branch. He has been president for years. But, that's not the point. This guy hides behind nuances of law. That is not what American Government was ever meant to be. Revocation of Transparency is Tantamount to Treason.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:03 pm#53 Dana's dialect is pure phoney-baloney! She's all over the map linguistically and is trying, albeit it meaningless, to effect the dialect of the intelligencia....hahahah! She's a phoney as a three dollar bill.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:03 pmRE: bogtrotters post #29:
Bogtrotter, you didn't provide us with the academic background of the scholars. I am certain that neither one attended the prestigious Regents University.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:05 pmVeritas, It does make make me sick to see these young professionals get so caught up in the spector of being close to power.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:05 pmLet's make this simple for Idiot Boy Bush:
There are three branches of government: (1) Executive, (2) Judicial, (3) Legislative.
The Vice President is a member of one of those three branches. Which do you think it is?
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:05 pmI would like to take this opportunity to apologize to everyone on this board for my bad behavior. I am not really as retarded as I seem when I post. I promise to do better in the future.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:06 pm#58 And you would be an English teacher, perchance? Picky...Picky. And, I believe that you will see that you've picked on the wrong individual as Sharon is quite beloved to all TP posters who care not about her apostrophes (BTW, your spelling of apostrophe was incorrect...hate to bring it up but....it was). At least now we all know that we can count on Mickey r to be the quintessential walking encyclopedia of spelling, grammar, usage, and composition???
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:06 pmNo, Ms. Perino, it is not an interesting constitutional question that people can debate. It is a documented fact clearly delineated in Section 1, Article II of the Constitution that you people hold in such contempt. Since the express powers of the President and Vice President are outlined in Article II, and since Article II deals fully and explicitly with the Executive Branch, I'd have to say that, yet again, the Shrub administration is FULL OF SHIT!
IMPEACH NOW.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:07 pmMmmmmm, baseballlllllllll.
Comment by gummitch
I see the visual was completely lost on you. :D
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:08 pmThe quotes blatantly don't match. You can't quote something and put the wrong word. I like this blog, but please learn how to proof read for credibility's sake.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:08 pm#66 Veritas-Those who pick at grammer when it offers no consequence are most apt at picking their nose and nothing more, as it offers no consequence.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:09 pmBlue Arkansas: You got it! IMPEACH NOW! If we but glance backwards to several months ago when impeachment proceedings could have begun, we will see how much more damage has been done to our credibility natioanally & internationally (we are the laughinstock of the world right now) in the time between then and now. It's like purchasing property.....the time to buy is NOW, NOW, NOW. Impeachment is the same: THE TIME TO IMPEACH IS NOW, NOW, NOW.
THERE IS NO DEBATE ABOUT ARTICLE 2, SECTION 1 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES WITH REGARD TO ANY CONFUSION ABOUT WHERE THE DICK CHENEY SITS.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:10 pmAgain, sorry to do this. Feel free to heap abuse on me if you like, but at least consider my advice.
Comment by mikey r
Sharon is a Great Lady, and she's fine the way she is.
Get over yourself.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:10 pmWhat is "A Little Bit of a Non-issue?"
Its weird language. To minimize attention & doesn't mean anything.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:11 pm#70 These folks who pick at grammar suffer from the dreaded disease of 'OOMPHALOSKEPSIS' I'm afraid. Funny that this type of thing would actually bother someone enough to mention it to another? My mention of Mikey r's misspelling was to hopefully show him that people who live in glass houses should never throw stones.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:12 pmDana saying this was a bit of a "non issue" is absolutely comical. How can anything which she and the WH deem to be worth taking the time of the press on as a valid "issue" then be called a "non issue". Is this an oxymoron? I know Dana's got the second half of that word nailed down but how about the oxy part of it?
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:13 pmCheney/Rumsfeld '08
Takers?
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:13 pmHe exeercises executive privilege when it suits him and when it doesn’t, he claims he is exempt.
Comment by Marie — June 22, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
Don't hold back, Marie. Tell us what you really of the Dickster. :D
But I do agree with you and the others who noticed the double a standard to which the vice president feels he is entitled.
On the one hand, he wants to claim he is not part of the executive branch, which is totally ignorant. Can anyone find quotes from him from when he was just a lying, corrupt, Nixon-supporting scumbag of a Congressman, that indicate he understands which branch of government the Vice President falls in?
But when you try to find out who he was meeting with to discuss public policy (energy bill), he claims Executive Privilege (something found nowhere in the constitution even for the president, let alone the vice president!)
The entire concept that a publicly elected official could keep secrets from the people he represents and works for is totally ludicrous. We're not talking about proprietary company information they want to keep secret, nor even classified information (which they did not claim was the case on the energy metings). We're talking about serving the American people here. This administration is filled with people who believe that they are there to serve the president, not the public. Boy have they got it wrong.
(For those who care, new song on my blog - "Go Ask Congress".)
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:14 pm– Perino refused to say definitely whether Vice President Cheney is part of the executive branch. She would only say it is an “interesting constitutional question that people can debate.â€
What? We are now debating THIS fundamental issue?!! Seems like this is the first administration that every Constitutional Law has been subject to review if it deals with the White House dream of a New World Order.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:16 pmIt’s A Little Bit Of A Non-Issue
Says the lying mouthpiece for WAR CRIMINALS Bush and Cheney...
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:18 pm## 66 Veritas -- I deserve the crticism and I accept it. I appreciate Sharon's insights when she shares them, as I appreciate yours. And I know most people don't give a fiddler's fart about apostrophes. The only reason I said something is that it's a pet peeve of mine and, to me, it makes her writing read less intelligent than it actually is. It's a very simple concept, but a very common mistake and easily correctable. That's all.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:18 pmPerino refused to say definitely whether Vice President Cheney is part of the executive branch. She would only say it is an “interesting constitutional question that people can debate.â€
Great, next they're going to tell us that the president is "not necessarily" bound by the constitution. Yes, they've acted that way all along. They just haven't said it. Yet.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:19 pm#73 These folks who pick at grammar suffer from the dreaded disease of ‘OOMPHALOSKEPSIS’ I’m afraid. Funny that this type of thing would actually bother someone enough to mention it to another? My mention of Mikey r’s misspelling was to hopefully show him that people who live in glass houses should never throw stones.
Comment by veritas
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:19 pmI apoligize. I did not get the entire context. My profound apoligies.
It's a shame she has no soul because she's really hot
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:19 pmPerino knows these guys are clowns, but hey, she's got a good job.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:21 pmVeritas and leftcoast, I absolutely agree. When you think of all the experience and talent that this country has in its people, one must wonder why this administration chose green "kids" to run some of the most important facets of government. I think they purposely chose naive people, people who wouldn't ask questions of those they admire, who wouldn't question policies. Monica Goodling - given total control over hiring and firing at the DOJ (something they willfully hid from Deputy Attorney General McNulty, for crying out loud.) Kyle Sampson, another young 30s with no legal experience. These young idealists - RNC groupies - can be molded, easily mislead, and encouraged to do whatever is needed for the good of the Party, which is paramount.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:21 pmMethinks someone needs to read the Constitution, particularly Article II:
I really want to be surprised these clowns don't know this. Yet I'm not.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:22 pmI apoligize. I did not get the entire context. My profound apoligies.
Comment by leftcoast — June 22, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
Good, leftcoast. Then we won't tell you there are two o's in "apologize". :D
(Sorry, couldn't resist the little tease. And, hey, I admit I make my share of typographical errors. My blog is full of them. By me, too!)
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:24 pmThe government's official website, run by the GSA, lists Vice President under Federal Executive Branch. Somebody better alert them. Might be a good idea to copy that page before they alter it.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:26 pmWayne, Yeah I caught it too when I sent it. LOL
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:28 pmThank You all for your support..BTW I was trying to make light of our usual friday dump of bad new's from the most evil administration in our history...To much sugar this morning, the donut put me over the top...LOL...
I am so sorry Mickey what's a ditty for offending you with my lack of skill's and the english language, do what I do, skipp the post's..Blessings all and have fun playing with the troll's...Poor thing's, bull shit's numbers tank, cheney show's his dementia is taking over and they are getting more rabid because of it...
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:28 pmCheney is God. Down on your knees, mortals. His commands must be obeyed. The OVP is now a church, a holy place where Death comes to order his dinner. A place from which even light cannot escape. Worship Lord Cheney!
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:30 pm#87The government’s official website, run by the GSA, lists Vice President under Federal Executive Branch. Somebody better alert them. Might be a good idea to copy that page before they alter it.
Comment by Candyce
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:32 pmGSA won't take down that information. That was approved by Dick when he decided he was commander-in-chief. Thanks for the catch!
She IS hot. Man... where did they find her?
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:32 pmSharon- bless you. You're great! Lots of L
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:34 pmShe IS hot. Man… where did they find her?
Comment by MAF54
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:35 pmOh yeah, that's exactly what I would expect from the neo-neanderthal.
The Vice President is not just part of the executive branch. He has a duty in the legislative branch also.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:35 pmHe can break a tie in the Senate, right? That doesn't make him less part of the executive branch. Or in any other way support his failure to obey the law when he is acting as executive.
Also by the constiution he replaces the President if Bush leaves office early. That means that he needs to be the first of the two impeached.
MAF54- you're out of your element. Try the zoo.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:36 pmSharon- bless you. You’re great!
Comment by leftcoast — June 22, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
I whole-heartedly concur. :)
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:36 pmDana Perino in Maxim, February '09?
I'd flip through it.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:37 pmShe repeatedly said that Cheney's exempt from a mere “small portion†or “small section†of the executive order, and that President Bush never intended for the executive order to apply to Cheney any differently than it applies to the president’s own office.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:39 pmBACK ON TOPIC.
Oh a tangled weave.....
leftcoast: What's your problem? She's one sexy lady.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:40 pmBless you all and back at ya...
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:41 pmMAF54- you’re out of your element. Try the zoo.
Comment by leftcoast
We don't want him at the zoo either.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:43 pmleftcoast: What’s your problem? She’s one sexy lady.
Yup. "sexy" on the OUTSIDE, EVIL like Bush and Cheney on the INSIDE
That's how Satan works to steal the souls of "people" like Bush's Nazi azzhole-lickers...
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:45 pmleftcoast: What’s your problem? She’s one sexy lady.
Comment by Jack Bauer
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:45 pmJack from 24. Yes, she is very hot. But if that's what moves you politically, well, go for it.
Ditto 104. Jack sounds like he'd like to be someone else. like me.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:46 pmwhen they are throwing Perino up there instead of Snow, that means they are scared.
its the same deal as when they push Condi on all the sunday shows; their thinking is "you wouldnt hit a GIRL, would you?!!?!?"
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:46 pmJack from 24. Yes, she is very hot. But if that’s what moves you politically, well, go for it.
Comment by adam
Politics should never get in the way of true love.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:48 pmits the same deal as when they push Condi on all the sunday shows; their thinking is “you wouldnt hit a GIRL, would you?!!?!?â€
Comment by n69n
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:49 pmNice catch.
Maybe Perino is up there, because Snow finally found a lie he won't say? Perhaps an attack of morals and ethics for Mr. Snow?
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:49 pmIt's the Divine Reich! Or in other words, it's a bit of non-democracy, what we've have imposed upon us since December, 2000. How about another four year bout of Bush-Cheney-2008: third stolen election in a row... These sore losers are getting really sore now..
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:49 pmAbsolutely pathetic. How did that "bond girl" get a job?
This entire Administration is a criminal conspiracy of massive proportions.
We are watching Waxman and Conyers slowly but surely building a case for impeachment.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:49 pm#107 Mpls Dem - I couldn't agree more. Affairs of the heart transend all.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:51 pmIs she as stupid as she looks?
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:51 pmMethinks she's in way over her pointy little head.
#110 -It’s the Divine Reich! Or in other words, it’s a bit of non-democracy, what we’ve have imposed upon us since December, 2000. How about another four year bout of Bush-Cheney-2008: third stolen election in a row… These sore losers are getting really sore now..
Comment by james k. sayre
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:53 pmJames, well put. I could just see it happen as they create WWIII.
REVOLUTION
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:53 pm#102: Oh, Zooey dear. Why are you so cold and distant?
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:54 pmhand-wringing and sniping doesn't seem to be of much use.
What DO we need to do to make this a BIG issue?
"Imperial Presidency" is one thing... "imperious Vice Presidency" is quite another.
Just what makes this office untouchable, whereas the President's is?
I think no one could better serve in a department that embodies "Vice"... but that needs to be over.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:57 pmMaybe Perino is up there, because Snow finally found a lie he won’t say? Perhaps an attack of morals and ethics for Mr. Snow?
Comment by Krazny — June 22, 2007 @ 4:49 pm
You mean the guy who used to work for Fox Noise Channel before he got his current job? Nah, I doubt it. :)
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:58 pmMAF54- you’re out of your element. Try the zoo.
Comment by leftcoast
We don’t want him at the zoo either.
Comment by Zooey
#102: Oh, Zooey dear. Why are you so cold and distant?
Comment by Jake
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:10 pmZooey, It would appear Jake has not changed his spots as he indicated.
Oh, it's just a tiny weenie, itty bitty widdle thing, nothing to get upset about, really...
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:15 pmCheney is talking out of both sides of his mouth (I know, hard to believe).
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:16 pmHe claims executive privilege when he wants to conceal his actions, but when he wants to disobey the law he claims he's not part of the executive branch of government.
#107 Politics should never get in the way of true love.
Comment by Mpls Dem — June 22, 2007 @ 4:48 pm
#112 #107 Mpls Dem - I couldn’t agree more. Affairs of the heart transend all.
Comment by adam — June 22, 2007 @ 4:51 pm
You both must be very young and inexperienced in the ways of the heart. You have a lot to experience, and I feel your pain. Try thinking with the big head instead of the little one. Trust me on this one.
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:27 pmComment by Merlin — June 22, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
He's right. Trust him.
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:30 pmPerino may be cute, and some may think she is hot. I don't disagree, but her work for this most corrupt administration obliterates her beauty and reveals her inner black soul.
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:31 pmAnyone who could stand before the press (representing the populace) and lie with such impunity, defend illegal and unethical actions has beauty only as deep as her skin.
#103 Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 22, 2007 @ 4:45 pm
leftcoast: What’s your problem? She’s one sexy lady.
Yup. “sexy†on the OUTSIDE, EVIL like Bush and Cheney on the INSIDE
Sounds like a candy bar they used to advertise. Crunchy on the outside, chewy on the inside. But you're visual... eeeew
That’s how Satan works to steal the souls of “people†like Bush’s Nazi azzhole-lickers…
Satan plies his trade in many wonderful ways.
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:34 pmAnyone who could stand before the press (representing the populace) and lie with such impunity, defend illegal and unethical actions has beauty only as deep as her skin.
Comment by Marie — June 22, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
Good point, Marie. I'm glad I'm not married to her. I could never trust a word she said to me, being as how she has to lie for a living.
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:34 pm#102 Comment by Zooey — June 22, 2007 @ 4:43 pm
We don’t want him at the zoo either.
HaaaaHaaaaHaaaa
Hilarious!
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:37 pm"White House On Cheney Ignoring Executive Order: ‘It’s A Little Bit Of A Non-Issue’"
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:39 pmThat's like saying the Constitution is just a little bitty piece of paper.
Bush and Cheney need to go. Sooner than later.
#68 Comment by Zooey — June 22, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
They remind me of a pissed soaked cigarette butt in the trough at a baseball stadium as well. That is about what they provide to the rest of the world.
Comment by kasinca
That’s the visual we should get every time we think about responding to a troll.
Comment by Zooey
Mmmmmm, baseballlllllllll.
Comment by gummitch
I see the visual was completely lost on you. :D
Comment by Zooey
Along with comment #103, this thread is turning very visual. Lunch anyone? :D
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:44 pmAt least now we all know that we can count on Mickey r to be the quintessential walking encyclopedia of spelling, grammar, usage, and composition???
Comment by veritas
Thank you veritas, I was too pissed with Mickey r to even respond without going overboard. Thank you for handling that so succinctly.
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:46 pm#37 Comment by Robert — June 22, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
This just in… NASA is not sure if Space Shuttle is one of their aircraft.
DOD questioning if Navy is really part of the military
Dept of Interior… Yellowstone? What’s a Yellowstone?
Beautiful! This is my candidate for best post of the thread!
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:47 pmWord's to an old song come to mind regarding the blond friday bommer..."If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife."..Any other old timer's remember that one?...LOL..Blessings
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:49 pm…â€If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife.â€..Any other old timer’s remember that one?…LOL..Blessings
Comment by Sharon — June 22, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
I do, but I only just turned 47 last week.
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:00 pmA Belated Happy Birthday, Wayne..
After the dreaded sugar donut for breakfast I can hardly remember when I was 47..LOL.Note to self, no more donut's.......Blessings
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:08 pmThank you, Sharon. And blessings and sugar-free donuts to you! :D
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:10 pmWayne, you are wise beyond your years.
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:18 pmZooey, It would appear Jake has not changed his spots as he indicated.
Comment by leftcoast — June 22, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
Heh. Never had a doubt. :)
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:19 pmHaaaaHaaaaHaaaa
Hilarious!
Comment by Merlin — June 22, 2007 @ 5:37 pm
Thanks, Merlin.
Heh.
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmWayne, you are wise beyond your years.
Comment by Marie — June 22, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
And yet, wet behind the ears, too. Go figure!
Thanks. :)
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmI do, but I only just turned 47 last week.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Another extremely young person....
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:24 pmAnother extremely young person….
Comment by Zooey — June 22, 2007 @ 6:24 pm
And handsome, too, from what I hear! :D ;)
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:26 pmOMG -- I just watched Perino, who was sent to the podium today because Snow made such a ass of himself every day this week. Perino wants a debate about whether the VP is part of the Executive Branch. OMG
Get that woman a copy of the US Constitution and open it to Article II, which outlines the Executive Branch, including the Vice President.
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:29 pmAnd handsome, too, from what I hear! :D ;)
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Oh absolutely, Wayne. That goes without saying.....
Thanks for reminding me. :D
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:35 pmMay I join the mutual admiration of Wayne.?.... I Love your post's....Blessings
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:44 pmIt just might be that this Administration (if you can call it that) thinks that if it can break too many laws, that no one will be able to keep up with them. The DOJ (if you can call it that anymore) and Congress won't be able to keep up, they will be bogged down in investigations for years to come. By then that spread in south america will be full of repukes basking in the sun with all of our money.
IGNORE THE TROLLS - Debate good, Trolls suck
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmComment by Buck Fush — June 22, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
Bt they don't have to investigate everything in order to haul them off to jail. Just get enough for one crime and then impeach them, remove them from office, and replace them them with something less dangerous. Like the first female Speaker of the House.
June 22nd, 2007 at 7:11 pm#144 Comment by Buck Fush — June 22, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
It just might be that this Administration (if you can call it that) thinks that if it can break too many laws, that no one will be able to keep up with them. The DOJ (if you can call it that anymore) and Congress won’t be able to keep up, they will be bogged down in investigations for years to come.
What you propose has already been stated as unwritten policy:
Think about this!
June 22nd, 2007 at 7:35 pmA Bush advisor told Ron Suskind:
“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality…we’ll act again, creating other new realities…â€
car54, you ought to get Dana to run for president. Hilllary would enjoy the fight.
June 22nd, 2007 at 8:24 pmRemember:
Bush & Cheney think the Constitution of the United States is nothing more than a GODDAMNED PIECE OF PAPER.
Dick Cheney doesn't believe he's above the law. Dick Cheney believes he IS the law.
Why we're not already in impeachment hearings to remove this gargoyle, power corrupt son of a bitch is beyond me!
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:34 pmYou can not judge a "lady's" sexuality by merely looking at her face. Some seem to store ice cubes in their passages to hopeful fulfillment. I installed a Garbage Disposal for one who drifted off and came back buck naked to the kitchen. The subsequent romp on the rug was like screwing a polar bear. She had a face like Marline Dietrich, but everything else ended there.
June 22nd, 2007 at 10:13 pmAhhh, Dana Perino, back from her week long binge with the prez man and their tour de Europa. Fresh en squeaky clean and ready to take another snowjob for the White House.
She stands, arrogantly poised in her place, by the podium, thinking, about all these damn questions, well nothing will they get from me, nothing I tell you, nothing. We are the White House, you have no right to know anything, but still insist asking these relentless questions. Ha. Who's asking anyway, why do you need to know, you better stop, or I'll cry and then you'll be sorry. You see because the White House answers to no one!!
Awww, well, so much for trying to get inside of her brain!
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:03 pmMemo to Dana Perino:
No need to debate whether Cheney is under the Executive Branch. Just read Article II of the US Constitution. It outlines the Exec Branch and surprise, surprise -- you will find reference to the office of the VP. Gotcha Dick.
June 23rd, 2007 at 12:11 am#44 - rove is in custody??!!?? - does anyone have more on this??......and with regard to perino,how does one get a job such as hers? - i'm sure she was speaking english - i heard english words - but it sounded like she chopped up the english dictionary,threw the pieces in the air and just read the words as they fell around her - every statement or so called answer she gave LITERALLY did not make sense - is it just me or did anybody else not have a clue what the f**k she was bleeting about?
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:21 pmAm I the only one that thinks that she is admitting that the Vice President's office is NOT complying with the regulations? She says the president never intended for his office to be treated differently, so they should be forced to comply. [She also says the presidents office is in agreement with them.] At the end she asks reporters to take it up with the VP's office.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:56 pmAn "interesting constitutional question"? Sometimes these "questions" are debated with blood, you f*cking harpy b*tch.
June 23rd, 2007 at 8:10 pmDeny Perdition is going to hell and she knows it. How anyone can lie with absolutely no skill and then sneers is beyond any comprehension. She is sent out there to fail and does that with flair, at least.
Why she plays the sacrificial, Tony baloney has seniority and makes WAY more than her, so she gets to play The Idiot.
This is Cheney's personal white house of horrors and we get to pay for it. Sound good?
June 23rd, 2007 at 11:22 pmDitchMitchKY:
The Vice President also casts tie-breaker votes in the Senate, which is in the LEGISLATIVE branch. Also, I don't think that anyone is denying the Vice President hold his Office during a four-year term -- he is elected together with the President -- what the Constitution does NOT do is vest any Executive power in the Vice President. Next question?
June 23rd, 2007 at 11:29 pmpre-amerikkkan:
Sounds good to me.
June 23rd, 2007 at 11:30 pmThen we get to fry some more of our kids in Iran, or any other country, except China, of course, that has something we want.
sound good?
then we get to hand over half our paychecks from here to eternity and still be in a deficit mode, THEN we get to pay the Bush corporation even more to hand out bonuses to his hand picked incompetents in the VA.
Some are gluttons for punishment, so this must be heaven or you just have a bunch of cash lying around that you're just itching to send to king george.
still sound good? i could go on and on, but the night calls. hope you're one of those he helps to escape taxes to pay for his folly, but you wouldn't be here if you were? Or would you?
June 24th, 2007 at 12:03 amHot? Are y'all joking? I wouldn't touch that with Cheney's dick. But I guess it's true, what they say about compulsive masturbation causing blindness. Christ, what a bunch of troll's [sic], adding nothing to the substantive discussion, simply crying out their pathetic sexist desire for a fascist to violate. May I remind you that Jeff Gannon is waiting for your call?
June 24th, 2007 at 4:08 amQuit expending all your energy writing comments here and use that energy to write your Senator or Congressman.
June 24th, 2007 at 8:45 amSure it's a "non issue. For a bunch of thugs who don't care if they crap on the constitution, this kind of talk is inevitable.
June 24th, 2007 at 11:21 pm#72: THERE IS NO DEBATE ABOUT ARTICLE 2, SECTION 1 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES WITH REGARD TO ANY CONFUSION ABOUT WHERE THE DICK CHENEY SITS.
You're right, there is no argument where Dick Cheney sits...with his head up his @$$
#96: She IS hot. Man… where did they find her?
Where else? Regent's University...(did I get the apostrophe right?)
June 25th, 2007 at 3:49 pmRead 32 CFR 2800 at the link: It's a big deal when OVP says it doesn't have to comply with security classifications.
Code of Federal regulations in this case specifically address OVP legal requirements in re security.
June 25th, 2007 at 4:19 pmMaureen Dowd on Shooter Cheney's new ploy:
"I’ve always thought Cheney was way out there — the most Voldemort-like official I’ve run across. But even in my harshest musings about the vice president, I never imagined that he would declare himself not only above the law, not only above the president, but actually his own dark planet — a separate entity from the White House.
"I guess a man who can wait 14 hours before he lets it dribble out that he shot his friend in the face has no limit on what he thinks he can keep secret. Still, it’s quite a leap to go from hiding in a secure, undisclosed location in the capital to hiding in a secure, undisclosed location in the Constitution."
June 25th, 2007 at 5:12 pmBoth Cheney and Bush believe they are above the law and not required to follow Presidential Executive Orders. We have more to fear from Presidential Executive Orders in this time of Islamic terrorism, read The Final Presidential Executive Order to see what could happen to our liberties following another major terrorist attack.
http://www.swissconfederationinstitute.org/swisspreserve14.htm from the online book, The Swiss Preserve Solution
June 25th, 2007 at 11:04 pm@12:
They don't. They sleep during the day in their coffins and come out at night to feed. Those people you see during the day are body doubles, possibly mechanical.
June 26th, 2007 at 3:11 amIs it too much to ask that people actually use the English language when they post? Or for that matter, any other language, as long as they do so with a modicum of understanding of how it works?
June 26th, 2007 at 3:17 am