Comments on: Bush claims he’s not part of the executive branch. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:04:02 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Anon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-8/#comment-3883834 Anon Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:37:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3883834 Whether Cheney believes he is or is not part of the Executive Branch is irrelevant. Cheney has a 32 CFR 2800 legal requirement to properly handle classified information. The CFR appiles to all OVP personnel. [Hit the link under "Anon" below to see OVP security information; and kw="Vice President".] Whether Cheney believes he is or is not part of the Executive Branch is irrelevant.

Cheney has a 32 CFR 2800 legal requirement to properly handle classified information. The CFR appiles to all OVP personnel.

[Hit the link under "Anon" below to see OVP security information; and kw="Vice President".]

]]> By: nikolai http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-8/#comment-3882589 nikolai Mon, 25 Jun 2007 04:07:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3882589 Cheney, Rove, Bush, Rice, etal will dodge and twist at every turn until it's crunch time, then Bush will pardon everyone, and the next president will pardon Bush regardless of his/her political affiliation, to "allow the country to heal." These murdering, lying thieves will then live happily ever after. There, now wasn't that simple? Anyone disagree? Good, I didn't think so... Cheney, Rove, Bush, Rice, etal will dodge and twist at every turn until it’s crunch time, then Bush will pardon everyone, and the next president will pardon Bush regardless of his/her political affiliation, to “allow the country to heal.” These murdering, lying thieves will then live happily ever after. There, now wasn’t that simple? Anyone disagree? Good, I didn’t think so…

]]> By: Ad Hoc http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3882442 Ad Hoc Mon, 25 Jun 2007 02:37:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3882442 I'd interpret that as a statement of resignation. If Bush says he is no longer part of the Executive, then it seems he has stepped down from the presidency. The President, being by definition part of the Executive. Of course, this is just another Famous Bush Moment - 'Neener neener! I can torture, abduct, rape and kill americans, I dont have to follow laws, I can attack and plunder helpless nonthreatening nations and murder a million innocent people, and NONE of you have the stones to stop me! In your FACE democracy! Take THAT freedom! A jackboot stomping on the face of Lady Liberty forever!' I’d interpret that as a statement of resignation. If Bush says he is no longer part of the Executive, then it seems he has stepped down from the presidency. The President, being by definition part of the Executive.

Of course, this is just another Famous Bush Moment – ‘Neener neener! I can torture, abduct, rape and kill americans, I dont have to follow laws, I can attack and plunder helpless nonthreatening nations and murder a million innocent people, and NONE of you have the stones to stop me! In your FACE democracy! Take THAT freedom! A jackboot stomping on the face of Lady Liberty forever!’

]]> By: bellgong http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3882248 bellgong Mon, 25 Jun 2007 00:32:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3882248 The dems will fail to get any documents, and still won't impeach, cuz they want Iraqi oil to flow to market via US oil company contracts just as much as Bush does. It is $6 a gallon gas, US economic collapse and ascendancy of a new Islamic state vs a bonanza of profits and continuing economic (and thus, political) power. You know what I say to that? .. Glub.. Glub.. The dems will fail to get any documents, and still won’t impeach, cuz they want Iraqi oil to flow to market via US oil company contracts just as much as Bush does. It is $6 a gallon gas, US economic collapse and ascendancy of a new Islamic state vs a bonanza of profits and continuing economic (and thus, political) power.

You know what I say to that?

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Glub.. Glub..

]]> By: Tom Paine http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3882244 Tom Paine Mon, 25 Jun 2007 00:29:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3882244 How many Americans have died so that we may have the rule of laws and not of men? There are at least 4 reasons why this President should be brought to trial: 1. Knowing use of forged documents purporting to show development of WMD by Iraq, and other misdirection of the American people to justify invasion of Iraq, including knowing use of false evidence. 2. Establishment of the doctrine of pre-emptive war, exercising executive power beyond that authorized by the Constitution. 3. Authorization of torture in violation of the Geneva conventions and U.S. law. 4. Systematic interception of electronic messages from and to a wide cross-section of American citizens in violation of the prohibition against unreasonable search and seizure. How many Americans have died so that we may have the rule of laws and not of men? There are at least 4 reasons why this President should be brought to trial:

1. Knowing use of forged documents purporting to show development of WMD by Iraq, and other misdirection of the American people to justify invasion of Iraq, including knowing use of false evidence.
2. Establishment of the doctrine of pre-emptive war, exercising executive power beyond that authorized by the Constitution.
3. Authorization of torture in violation of the Geneva conventions and U.S. law.
4. Systematic interception of electronic messages from and to a wide cross-section of American citizens in violation of the prohibition against unreasonable search and seizure.

]]> By: hedghawg http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3881625 hedghawg Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:01:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3881625 How can those who would impeach for a sexual discretion that had nothing to do with the govenrnance of the country possible ignore such hubrius? How can those who would impeach for a sexual discretion that had nothing to do with the govenrnance of the country possible ignore such hubrius?

]]> By: Kristian Risager Larsen http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3881537 Kristian Risager Larsen Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:55:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3881537 I think he should be back in high school, taking government classes or maybe just study Montesquieu rather than his Bible. I think he should be back in high school, taking government classes or maybe just study Montesquieu rather than his Bible.

]]> By: Wretched Refuse http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3881346 Wretched Refuse Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:32:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3881346 Actually, if you REALLY want to get pissed off, stop posting anywhere for about 2 weeks, and KEEP reading the internets. THIS BLOG shit IS the reason we are not in the streets. We keep blowing off our steam every day on thie here internets, and it diffuses our rage. STOP posting and see just how pissed off you truly are. IT WILL AMAZE YOU! Actually, if you REALLY want to get pissed off, stop posting anywhere for about 2 weeks, and KEEP reading the internets. THIS BLOG shit IS the reason we are not in the streets. We keep blowing off our steam every day on thie here internets, and it diffuses our rage. STOP posting and see just how pissed off you truly are.
IT WILL AMAZE YOU!

]]> By: LibStl http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3881314 LibStl Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:14:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3881314 I get the feeling that the President and Vice-President believe they ARE the Executive Branch...not an entity WITHIN the Executive Branch. That is why they can say that this Executive Order does not apply to them. However, just because they believe it, doesn't make it so. Impeach both the bast*rds! I get the feeling that the President and Vice-President believe they ARE the Executive Branch…not an entity WITHIN the Executive Branch. That is why they can say that this Executive Order does not apply to them. However, just because they believe it, doesn’t make it so.

Impeach both the bast*rds!

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3881308 BARTLEBEE Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:07:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3881308 Look guys. Lets not argue with him. If he says he's not a member of the executive office, and therefore not President, I for one am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Look guys. Lets not argue with him.

If he says he’s not a member of the executive office, and therefore not President, I for one am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

]]> By: chuck http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3881290 chuck Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:45:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3881290 We can let this happen because we are afraid of our government. They torture people, and think it's OK because they are "enemy combatants". They can wiretap us and listen in on our conversations with no warrant, and they can pretty do whatever they want. They are a group of greedy assholes and someone needs to do something to get their asses out of power. I hate my country these days, we are going downhill so fast I feel like I'm on a roller coaster. Please someone, invade Washington and take them OUT. We can let this happen because we are afraid of our government. They torture people, and think it’s OK because they are “enemy combatants”. They can wiretap us and listen in on our conversations with no warrant, and they can pretty do whatever they want. They are a group of greedy assholes and someone needs to do something to get their asses out of power. I hate my country these days, we are going downhill so fast I feel like I’m on a roller coaster. Please someone, invade Washington and take them OUT.

]]> By: the koo roo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3881278 the koo roo Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:39:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3881278 Why doesn't he just go get the original copy of the constitution and rip it up or something? I don't know how we as Americans can let this sort of thing happen. Why doesn’t he just go get the original copy of the constitution and rip it up or something? I don’t know how we as Americans can let this sort of thing happen.

]]> By: Wayne A. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3881260 Wayne A. Schneider Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:22:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3881260 <i>How do you spell “impeachment”? Comment by G. Boecker — June 24, 2007 @ 9:38 am</i> Um...I-E-D...wait, there's an 'M' in there somewhere... How do you spell “impeachment”?

Comment by G. Boecker — June 24, 2007 @ 9:38 am

Um…I-E-D…wait, there’s an ‘M’ in there somewhere…

]]> By: G. Boecker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3881227 G. Boecker Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:38:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3881227 How do you spell "impeachment"? How do you spell “impeachment”?

]]> By: Wayne A. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3881226 Wayne A. Schneider Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:35:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3881226 Comment by BlueArkansas — June 23, 2007 @ 11:34 pm Excellent post! By the time the most recent thread (WaPo's 4-part series on Cheney), I had already e-mailed Speaker Pelosi urging her to begin impeaching Gonzalez, Cheney and Bush in that order. (See my blog for my open letter to her.) But you said it so much better than I did that I may just take you up on your offer and e-mail her again with your words. Thanks for caring enough about our democracy to do something to preserve it. Comment by BlueArkansas — June 23, 2007 @ 11:34 pm

Excellent post! By the time the most recent thread (WaPo’s 4-part series on Cheney), I had already e-mailed Speaker Pelosi urging her to begin impeaching Gonzalez, Cheney and Bush in that order. (See my blog for my open letter to her.)

But you said it so much better than I did that I may just take you up on your offer and e-mail her again with your words. Thanks for caring enough about our democracy to do something to preserve it.

]]> By: WRT http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3881225 WRT Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:34:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3881225 The President, if he wishes, can ignore, amend or break executive orders. Executive orders are directives from the President to the executive branch of government. They do not apply to any other branch or any constitutional provision. As a matter of fact, presidential orders aren't even in the Constitution. Look, I hate W as much as anyone... I'm an American, but he can do this. Although, I don't see his reasoning behind it. He should repeal the order completely if he and Cheney are going to openly break it anyway. <strong> <em>It just proves what a bunch of morons they are and who work for them. I hear Bush's approvals dropping another point.</em></strong> The President, if he wishes, can ignore, amend or break executive orders. Executive orders are directives from the President to the executive branch of government. They do not apply to any other branch or any constitutional provision. As a matter of fact, presidential orders aren’t even in the Constitution. Look, I hate W as much as anyone… I’m an American, but he can do this. Although, I don’t see his reasoning behind it. He should repeal the order completely if he and Cheney are going to openly break it anyway.

It just proves what a bunch of morons they are and who work for them. I hear Bush’s approvals dropping another point.

]]> By: WMD http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3881185 WMD Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:45:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3881185 <em>"Bush amended the oversight directive in response to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to help ensure that <strong>national secrets would not be mishandled, made public or improperly declassified</strong>."</em> Undercover CIA agents not included ! “Bush amended the oversight directive in response to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to help ensure that national secrets would not be mishandled, made public or improperly declassified.”

Undercover CIA agents not included !

]]> By: Adam G http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3881177 Adam G Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:20:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3881177 I have a nice, shiny nickel for the first person who can tell me without a doubt who IS in the Executive Branch. And if it turns out there IS nobody in the Executive Branch, I formally volunteer to head up this branch, which has existed for so long, yet no one is a part of. I bet I can do a lot better job than Bush (you know, if he was in it.) I have a nice, shiny nickel for the first person who can tell me without a doubt who IS in the Executive Branch.

And if it turns out there IS nobody in the Executive Branch, I formally volunteer to head up this branch, which has existed for so long, yet no one is a part of. I bet I can do a lot better job than Bush (you know, if he was in it.)

]]> By: Jane E. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3881143 Jane E. Schneider Sun, 24 Jun 2007 07:10:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3881143 Comment by BlueArkansas — June 23, 2007 @ 11:34 pm Very well put, BlueArkansas! Comment by BlueArkansas — June 23, 2007 @ 11:34 pm

Very well put, BlueArkansas!

]]> By: jorge http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/comment-page-7/#comment-3881108 jorge Sun, 24 Jun 2007 06:27:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/bush-claims-hes-not-part-of-the-executive-branch/#comment-3881108 this craziness has to stop. Ron Paul 2008! this craziness has to stop.
Ron Paul 2008!

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