Gonzales To Give Speech Co-Sponsored By Prominent Creationism Organization
Gonzales To Give Speech Co-Sponsored By Prominent Creationism Organization
Next week, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales will make his first-ever visit to Seattle as attorney general. While there, he will deliver a 45-minute speech “on the Justice Department’s efforts to protect intellectual property and combat cybercrime.”
The speech, which is free and open to the public, was organized by TechNet Northwest. It is also being sponsored and promoted by the most prominent creationism advocacy organization in the country: the Discovery Institute.
One of the Institute’s main goals is to replace evolutionary science in public schools with “intelligent design”:
The Discovery Institute has quietly positioned itself as the most effective and politically savvy group pushing a religious agenda in America’s public school science classes. [...]
The Institute enthusiastically endorses what law professor and ID champion Philip Johnson calls the “wedge” strategy. The plan is straightforward: use intelligent design as a wedge to undermine evolution with scientific-sounding arguments and thereby advance a conservative religious-political agenda.
The institute’s main financial backer, savings and loan heir Howard Ahmanson, spent 20 years on the board of the Chalcedon Foundation, “a theocratic outfit that advocates the replacement of American civil law with biblical law.”
Discovery’s attacks on evolution have been discredited by leading scientists. The National Academy of Sciences, “the nation’s most prestigious scientific organization,” declares evolution “one of the strongest and most useful scientific theories we have.” President Bush’s science adviser John Marburger calls it “the cornerstone of modern biology.”
While it’s unclear what interest the Institue has in promoting a Gonzales speech on intellectual property rights and cybercrime, there’s no doubt that they would like to curry his favor in order to get “the Justice Department to support legal efforts to change” public school curriculum to include “intelligent design.”
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If the book of Genesis is true, then who did Adam and Eve’s sons marry and eventually have children with? The only other woman around was their mother.
So, within the first few chapters of Genesis, we have two sons committing incest with their mother, then one of them kills the other out of jealousy.
I guess Christians these days consider that “a good start”.
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:33 pmisn’t it nice the head criminal enabler is giving a pro crime speech to a group of the collective stupid?
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:34 pmactually, one prefers him not meddling in the investigations that are going to put him in jail for the rest of his life. keep him busy out on the campaign trail for the mafia
Just another example of how truth can be bended and molded by how well you can manipulate the media. This speech…and those who follow it are helping to add legitimacy to a completely invalid argument.
http://www.media2politic.com
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:35 pm“…the collective stupid?”
Comment by oldtree
Wait, is that a call for… The Republicâ„¢??? We’re here!!!
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:41 pmIf evolution isn’t true, why do I have an appendix? God put a useless organ in the human body whose sole purpose is to get inflamed, rupture and possibly kill people?
If God is an intelligent designer, why is it that humans designed a camera vastly superior to the human eye 100 years ago?
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:41 pmSo NOW the question is: Who else funds the Discovery Institute besides the aforementioned Howard Ahmanson? The later, who wants Biblical law to prevail…just like the Islamists.
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:42 pmIf there is a case for intelligent design to be made, Gonzo is not the most qualified to deliver the message. The only intelligence he has was designed for a rock.
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:43 pmIt’s only fitting that Gonzales speak before the creationist Discovery Institute.
After all, it’s a miracle Gonzales still has a job.
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:44 pmRepublican Stupidity
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:46 pmAnd you felt that even in this story you, Matt, needed to include a defense of evolution by the Nation Academy of Sciences, as if there is any rational doubt. So… who is winning this battle?
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:46 pmIntelligent Design?
These things are intelligent?:
Male breasts and nipples.
Appendix.
Backward design of the eye.
Pelvis with an oval opening that makes child birth painful and difficult.
Pseudogenes (genes that exist but do not function).
Coccyx (tail bone).
Excrement.
Dual urinary tract/semen tract (urine kills spermatzoa).
Wisdom teeth.
Tonsils.
Curved neck.
We’ll start with that…
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:47 pmGonzales evolved from a piece of feces. How can he not believe in evolution.
-GSD
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:49 pmIf God is an intelligent designer, why is it that humans designed a camera vastly superior to the human eye 100 years ago?
Comment by chris — June 23, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
My guess is because man also designed god…
I wonder how much larger our brain must to evolve before we outgrow the capacity for superstitions.
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:50 pmI always question the “intelligent design” of the Duckbilled Platypus, the animal I think was designed “by committee”
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:50 pmGonzo is inner circle and knows where the bodies are buried (maybe literally).
Chimpy won’t throw Gonzo under the bus.
Gonzo has a seat on the plane to Paraguay.
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:51 pmAh. Back from a long, long SD trip to Beijing, I get in a quite few drinks, log in and what do I see on TP. The same old, same old. Once again, you’ve completely missed the point.
A hint: there is the executive, legislative, judicial, but because of our current legal system, there is a limited amount of play you’ve got with then. What else is important when you think of planting the seeds (so to speak) for the next generation of GOP control in, let’s say, 10-15 years?
Education. What’s happening here. Don’t let the religious aspect distract you.
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:51 pmThe only intelligence he has was designed for a rock.
Comment by Clyde the Ripper — June 23, 2007 @ 1:43 pm
LOL. How are you? Good to see you.
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:52 pmSo NOW the question is: Who else funds the Discovery Institute besides the aforementioned Howard Ahmanson? The later, who wants Biblical law to prevail…just like the Islamists.
Comment by evergreen
Right, evergreen, and the Fundies just don’t get it…
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:53 pmEducation. What’s happening here. Don’t let the religious aspect distract you.
Comment by BottomBoy — June 23, 2007 @ 1:51 pm
The degradation of our education system IS the result of religion, and it’s attempts to suppress knowledge. It’s pertinent.
Why don’t you want us to discuss it if it’s such a non-issue? Hmmm?
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:54 pmAfter all, it’s a miracle Gonzales still has a job.
Comment by AngryOne
LOL… LOL…
Son, we’re going to make you an honorary member for that one! (Don’t forget to ask for your door prize…)
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:54 pmOldtree, we are not and should not be cosidered the collective stupid. If anything, you have shown your stupidity for not believing in Jesus and holiness and by not giving your life to him. Eventually, you will find out that hell is real. What will be your excuse then?
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:57 pmThe degradation of our education system IS the result of religion, and it’s attempts to suppress knowledge. It’s pertinent. Why don’t you want us to discuss it if it’s such a non-issue? Hmmm?
Did I say I don’t want you discuss it? I just said that you don’t get what it’s all about.
Religion is a tool for us and, yes, it’s for suppressing knowledge. So what? Ivy league universities will never be affected by it and we’ll always get enough experts to run things for us.
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:58 pmThis is why more and more Americans are turning away from religion. Intelligent design REPLACING evolution? Jesus Christ on a crutch. (no pun intended)
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/11223.html
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:58 pmThe speech is free and open to the public.
Heckle him off the stage!!
Go Seattle! You can do it!
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:58 pmTom3, GREAT PLAN! Boo his a$$ off – give him the same reception that Card got when getting his honorary degree. That was priceless!
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:00 pm#24: Speech is free, but why do you keep encouraging these idiots like the CodePink people who only appear as hotheat left-wing fanatics to the greater public? Indiscriminate heckling is just counterproductive.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:02 pmCard got when getting his honorary degree. That was priceless!
And did that silly action buy you any real new support or popularity?
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:03 pmSince theocracries have worked so well in the Middle East, it would only make sense to follow suit in the United States. If you say “no”, you must not love Jesus, right? On that topic, does anyone know where I can find the story in the New Testament where Jesus runs for public office?
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:03 pmOldtree, we are not and should not be cosidered the collective stupid.
Right you are, Daryll. From here on in, we will refer to you as the individually stupid.
Comment by Daryll
Eventually, you will find out that hell is real.
Daryll, we’re quite aware that Hell is real. BruschCoâ„¢ has done a marvelous job of selling that idea to the world over the last 7 years.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:04 pmIndiscriminate heckling is just counterproductive.
Comment by BottomBoy
You mean like the 4300 plus posts rung up the other day at the CON/radio thread here? Or like when Orally cuts people’s microphones and just starts ranting at them?
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:05 pmIf anything, you have shown your stupidity for not believing in Jesus and holiness and by not giving your life to him.
Stupid because there is ZERO proo for evidence that Jesus or his dad are anything more than a fairytale? Yeah, you’re brilliant… Why do you tihnk it’s called faith Daryll? Because it requies faith to believe in something that grandly unrealistic and utterly ridiculous.
Eventually, you will find out that hell is real. What will be your excuse then?
Comment by Daryll — June 23, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
I’d rather go to hell than spend an eternity with you Christians…
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:07 pmI noticed that the trolls appeared at almost exactly 11:00. What was it, time for the new shift to sign on?
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:07 pm#30: I’ve got no idea what you’re talking about. I’ve been with a SD delegation to China for the last month or so.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:07 pmDid I say I don’t want you discuss it? I just said that you don’t get what it’s all about.
Essentially, yes you did.
Oh, we get it. You just hate the fact that we get it and then willingly reject it.
Religion is a tool for us and, yes, it’s for suppressing knowledge. So what?
Sheesh, I never expected one of you to admit it… But hey, I respect your honesty. Refreshing from you wingers. But, do youreallythink that if every priest or preacher were that honest that anyone but folks like foaming-at-the-mouth Daryll would be left?
Ivy league universities will never be affected by it and we’ll always get enough experts to run things for us.
Comment by BottomBoy — June 23, 2007 @ 1:58 pm
You know that Harvard and Columbia and Yale all have divinity schools right?
Ivy League is such a small fraction of the education system. Everyone deserves unfettered access to knowledge – not just the elite.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:10 pmTROLL ALERT
A troll has been spotted in sector 21 at 1:57 EST.
Ignore him and he may crawl back under his bridge.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:10 pmIf the book of Genesis is true, then who did Adam and Eve’s sons marry and eventually have children with? The only other woman around was their mother.
Comment by chris — June 23, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
They must have married monkeys. And thus the Republican Party was born.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:11 pmBottomBoy, I am sorry to disagree with you as I appreciate what you are saying.
There comes a time when you have to take a stand. Our lawless government is in need of bitch slapping. When the people have to take to the streets to take back our country, I am going to be amongst them. If I go to jail, so be it. Since we don’t have habeus corpus to hamper the government from taking me away forever, that’s a risk…and one I will willingly take.
There are times when you have to stand up for what you believe. And I believe that if regular Americans don’t start to do something to take back our country, we are going to lose it forever.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:12 pmDiscovery Institute? WTF?!?
Honestly I can’t figure out the connection btwn Discovery’s ID/Creationist BS and Gonzales DOJ. It would be a gigantic stretch to think they can have any real influence on the DOJ to do anything about inserting creationist propaganda into public schools. I realize that’s what they said with your quote from the WaPost, but given the most recent Federal court ruling in Pennsylvania, plus I just don’t see how Gonzales can do anything realistic to curry their bologna, I don’t know if there’s much to worry about on the surface.
Hate to put my tin foil hat on here, but there’s gotta be something more behind this one. More often than not, it’s got a few $ signs involved, and usually underneath the table.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:14 pm#34: I’m honest with you, because there’s no reason to lie to you. It’s already too late for you to effect a change anyway. The gutter trolls here, some of them paid by GOP, don’t know it yet, so they keep spouting the latest lines and keep denying evident truths, but I don’t see anything wrong with me revealing some insider information while I’m here.
That’s not to say that I’m going to reveal any strategic hotspots or our memes that are still under wraps for 2008 and later, but still. It’s fun.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:16 pm“Pelvis with an oval opening that makes child birth painful and difficult.”
Comment by unbelievable — June 23, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
Doesn’t the bible say that Eve was punished for eating the apple by making anything to do with childbirth painful? (Menstruation, labot pains, the works!) Yeah, nice frickin’ god. Obviously thought up by a man!
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:18 pmEve should have stuck to what she knew, then.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 pmGone-zo ain’t gonna resign! He’s gonna stay put so he can protect the kiddies, by making sure America’s kiddies are the most ignorant kiddies on the planet.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 23, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
I want to know what the door prize is, and just how can one win it? :-)
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:21 pm#30: I’ve got no idea what you’re talking about. I’ve been with a SD delegation to China for the last month or so.
Comment by BottomBoy
So go back a couple of days on TP and find the thread. Apparently something panicked the righties so badly they called in The Rabid Lemming Rapid Response Teamâ„¢ and swarmed the thread for hours. I think you’ll find example after example of the shrill heckling you decry so strongly.
Just… go… look…
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:22 pmComment by MsJoanne — June 23, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
Well said, MsJoanne!
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:22 pmbut I don’t see anything wrong with me revealing some insider information while I’m here.
Comment by BottomBoy
Please spare us the details. NO ONE here wants to know what goes on inside your closet. Save it for MAF54.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:24 pm“I’d rather go to hell than spend an eternity with you Christians…”
Comment by unbelievable — June 23, 2007 @ 2:07 pm
Psst, unb, I think we’re already there.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:26 pm#46: Congress? Things got done wrong there, but the result wasn’t too bad. What have you accomplished with your “majority”? Your reps realize that the ongoing war is in the interests of this country and even a veto-proof democratic house or presidency won’t change that.
You just don’t get it. Your party is playing with you just like we’re playing with our religious right nuts. Get us elected, we’ll ignore you and when you complain, we tell you to go and vote for the other guy – which, of course, they’ll never do. Suckers.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:26 pmToo bad Gonzo can’t create a believable explanation for why his office fired competent U.S. attorneys.
Fortunately for him, the creationists believe in faith over facts.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:27 pmIf all of the school boards simply accepted this little rule, we could put all of this behind us:
“If it can’t be tested, it isn’t science!”
Ask any scientist to come up with a test for evolution and/or natural selection and they can easily do so.
The same cannot be said for Intelligent Design.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:28 pmMosaic law and Sharia law are very similar, like Kosher and Halal.
And both are brutal and outdated.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:29 pmSo, wanna bet that any hecklers in the crowd will be arrested, detained, and in some cases, perhaps “disappear”? Surely, all those detention facilities being built by Halliburton around the country are not just for illegal immigrants. So why was Seattle chosen? Perhaps because their police department proved themselves “up to the task” during the WTO meetings in 1999?
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:31 pmDon’t be so paranoid. As has been stated multiple times, the Drudge Report had a link to this site concerning the talk radio study. Which drew, most likely, thousands of people over here. A lot of them stuck around. And the bulk of Drudge’s audience is most likely conservative [aside from journalists apparently watching it for breaking news].
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:31 pmBottom Boy, the thread that TROS is referring to is from June 20th: “REPORT: The Right Wing Domination Of Talk Radio And How To End It” It was insane, tons of name-jacking and more trolls than I thought existed. I have a feeling that Drudge must have had a link to the thread, like a wormhole from some dark alternate universe, and they all came through.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:33 pmComment by Daniel — June 23, 2007 @ 2:31 pm
Thanks for confirming that link, Daniel, I should have waited a minute before I posted my last comment.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:35 pmI don’t understand women christians either. To be subjogated and subrogated as chattel is simply unfathomable to me.
What I find even sadder is women who oppose abortion, many who weren’t around in the good old shove-a hanger-up-your-crotch days. As long as women are controlled (and forced childbearing is definitely control) women will always be 2nd class citizens who are by far the majority of poor people with little resources or aspects.
All of this is control. Religion is control. Forced reproduction is control (notice how contraception is just as evil as abortion). Lack of or inferior education is control. Just as is the rich v. poor. It’s all about control.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:36 pmHey all,
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:38 pmI’m coming out of the lurking stage … I love think progress! But according to the local news yesterday in Seattle the speech is NOT open to the public.
“… just like we’re playing with our… nuts.”
Comment by Jake
Ewww… Jake, this is a PG-13 thread. People bring their children here on occasion. If you can’t keep that sort of behavior private, then management is going to have to ask you to leave and not come back.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:38 pmEd Schulz really got the Repukes’ panties in a not last night.
I think we hit a nerve.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:40 pmHey. NP Jane.
So…. do we ever actually have discussions here or is there just a lot of venting?
And… how many of you like this format? [meaning, the cumbersomeness of following a discussion, responding, reloading, etc...?]
Or maybe there are some browser plugins that allow you to manage it more effectively?
Just wondering…
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:42 pmHey Alberto:
See if you can fit this into your speech:
Spinosaurus (meaning “spine lizard”) was a genus of theropod dinosaur that lived in what is now North Africa, from the Albian to early Cenomanian stages of the Cretaceous Period, about 95 to 93 million years ago.
It is the largest of all carnivorous dinosaurs, even larger than Tyrannosaurus rex and Giganotosaurus. If the estimates are correct, Spinosaurus would be the longest theropod, measuring 16 – 18 m long (52.5 – 59.1 ft), around 6 m tall (20 ft), and reached weights up to 9 tons.
HOW’D THEY GET A PAIR OF THOSE THINGS ON NOAH’S ARK…AND IF THEY DID, WHY DIDN’T THEY EAT EVERY OTHER ANIMAL IN SIGHT?
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:42 pmIt was insane, tons of name-jacking and more trolls than I thought existed.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Jane, PiP was there briefly and commented that it looked like a “professional hit” and I agree w/ him. NO way in the world there were simply that many right-wing trolls just coincidentally showing up all at the same time posting such similar comments over and over for HOURS.
Scarily enough, I’d expect more of the same in the future. Righties have acknowledged they’re failing on line, which means they’ll just fight back dirty, like they always do.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:43 pm“Hey all,
I’m coming out of the lurking stage … I love think progress!”
Comment by don — June 23, 2007 @ 2:38 pm
Welcome, don! I’m sure that we all went through the lurking stage, I know I did. Now I’m totally addicted to simply speaking my mind, for whatever it’s worth! :-D
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:44 pmI think we hit a nerve.
Comment by Tom3
Ya got that straight.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:44 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 23, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
I’m just glad that they don’t seem to have followed me back to Wayne’s blog. (Like “the terrorists are going to follow us home”, as if the terrorists don’t know where ‘Merka is!)
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:47 pmNO way in the world there were simply that many right-wing trolls just coincidentally showing up all at the same time posting such similar comments over and over for HOURS.
See #59.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:47 pmI’ve got a much shorter list.
George Bush. Living proof that intelligent design – isn’t.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:53 pmGonzales will be a real hit in Seattle…..What a pig.
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:54 pmGonzales is a WAR CRIMINAL, authorizing TORTURE, and attempting to BYPASS ACTING AG James Comey, to get Ashcroft to sign off on activities so TREASONOUS, that even ASHCROFT would NOT do it…
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:55 pmThey are all treasonous…but it seems that the few people who could actually do something won’t.
Right wing mass media is keeping our country from doing ANYTHING for fear of retribution (due to ignorance, which is the saddest gotdammed thing ever).
I bet that few people could actually define treason…and a fraction of that could explain why habeus corpus matters.
Remember, 8 out of 10 couldn’t place Iraq on a map – and almost that many couldn’t point to Ohio. (Jay Leno’s Man On The Street bit.)
If that doesn’t send chills up and down your spine, nothing would. We live in a country of dumb f*cks leading even dumber f*cks.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:01 pmUnbelievable
Thanks for asking! I am about 95% which is 200% better than before.
The major problem has been in this Country since the beginning. The Constitution calls for the separation of Church and State. Leaving the moral issues to the Church and the governmental issues to the State. Human nature is such that there is a normal separation between the two: a Government cannot legislate morality. Particularly when the Sitting Government is immoral to the core. You are right when you say the whole thing is just a matter of control. King George the Dumb knows and cares little, if any, about the thoughts and feelings of the citizens of this Country. His only driving force is greed which he can only satiate by controlling every thing that he is told he cannot control. The man is criminally insane and should be incarcerated for life or hung as he had Sadam hung. There is little difference between the two.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:07 pmAttorney General or Pastor General or, Pastoral Pope?
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:08 pmYou’re hilarious… :D
Comment by unbelievable
I do what I can. Humor seems to slice thru hypocrisy better than any other known weapon. You may not make your opponents laugh, but if you can get others laughing at them, you go a long way towards stripping them of their strenght.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:11 pmI only hope that I am alive so I can travel to The Hague for the tribunals take place. That will forever be my dream vacation; to watch these people pay for the pain and injury this administration has inflicted on the world.
I need an excuse to go back to Rotterdam. I wonder if I could bring pom poms?
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:11 pmSee #59.
Comment by Daniel
I read that. The article was linked to Drudge’s front page. I still think it was some sort of co-ordinated effort. there was just too many of them for too long, all saying the same gibberish over and over again.
Remember when some Repubs deliberately overloaded a Dem phone line in the Northeast during a state election a few yrs ago? Similar tactic, similar result.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:14 pmI’m just glad that they don’t seem to have followed me back to Wayne’s blog. (Like “the terrorists are going to follow us homeâ€, as if the terrorists don’t know where ‘Merka is!)
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Quite frankly, I’m surprised it didn’t spill into some of the other threads here. Ever see the movie, “Gremlins”? remember when they take over the twon at the end? That’s what the troll swarm reminded me of.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:17 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 23, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Okay. Well – we’ll just have to disagree on that one. I’m not saying it isn’t possible, I just doubt that was the case. It started the moment the link appeared on Drudge [I know that because I got here from there at post #40, and within minutes it was already complete ]. And I stayed for quite a while – it was like watching a train wreck. I just couldn’t take my eyes off of the thing…
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:18 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 23, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
Yes, I checked and there was a link on The Druged Report. It is probably still up.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:19 pmI try to ignore most of them, but sometimes…ARGH! I often type out a response and then don’t post it.
It’s like tossing water on the gremlins…they’ll never go away then.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:19 pmQuite frankly, I’m surprised it didn’t spill into some of the other threads here. Ever see the movie, “Gremlins� remember when they take over the twon at the end? That’s what the troll swarm reminded me of.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 23, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
It did. Remember oboemomma’sboy?
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:20 pmMsJoanne ~ Think we could get a group rate for a thousand or so?
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:23 pmPRIMVS ~ I heard a report his mommy liked his recital, but the mayo was difficult to remove afterward.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:24 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 23, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
Never saw “Gremlins”, but I know the storyline, your reference sounds right.
” I still think it was some sort of co-ordinated effort. there was just too many of them for too long, all saying the same gibberish over and over again.”
I get the feeling that a lot of it was just the same person, just hijacking different screen names. There were obviously some genuine posters there from the right, but it was, mostly a clusterf*ck. Or a circle-jerk, whichever. I commented a few times, and actually got one or two non-hijacking responses amongst the other trollshite.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:25 pmI’ll buy if we can use ‘em for some good shootin’ target practice. I needs me some praktis for shootin’ me some varmits.
And it would help cleanse the earth – and god would like that. (batting eyelashes coyly)
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:26 pmThe article says its at the Seattle Westin hotel, free and open to the public. That’s downtown, and would be an easy thing to have a couple of thousand of us show up and demand to get in, carrying protest signs, demanding impeachment, etc. I have to take one day of vacation next week anyway…Hmmm.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:27 pm“It did. Remember oboemomma’sboy?”
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 23, 2007 @ 3:20 pm
Yeah, you’re right, he came back last night to one of the recent threads. Well, hopefully the rest of the horde will stay away!
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:28 pmComment by RUCerious — June 23, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
I suspect, regretfully, that we will be hearing another performance some time soon. He seemed to be having too much fun. The only reason he left so abruptly is because his mommy said it was night-night time.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:30 pmOkay. I’ve gotta take my daughter to a Dr.s appt [nasty infection on her hand] , then the boy has a birthday party. I think afterward, I’m gonna pop The Fountainhead in the VCR & tune out the world. [and no - that's not a euphemism for anything]
see y’all later
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:30 pmBTW – I am one of the horde that arrived [well, maybe I'm alliance - ha ha]. I just like to think I wasn’t one of the dickheads. Although you’ll find later in that clusterthread that there was another Daniel. Hopefully you can tell the difference.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:32 pmYeah, you’re right, he came back last night to one of the recent threads. Well, hopefully the rest of the horde will stay away!
Comment by Jane E. Schneider — June 23, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
I know, the one thing that seem to mess up is game is when I mentioned Mark Foley (I’m AVGVSTINVS) he was gone for a solid 5 – 10 min. looking for an article about a gay Democrat. Oboboy is really sensitive to facts about Rep. corruption, it is his “Achilles Heel.”
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:35 pmDr. Ellie Arroway: “So what’s more likely? That an all-powerful, mysterious God created the Universe, and decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that He simply doesn’t exist at all, and that we created Him, so that we wouldn’t have to feel so small and alone?”
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:36 pmWelcome, Daniel. I try to take comments individually, cause we’re never gonna agree on everything. So, if I call you on the carpet here and there, that’s my way of saying WTF ARE YOU THINKING. No, I mean WELCOME! ;)
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:36 pmI get the feeling that a lot of it was just the same person, just hijacking different screen names. There were obviously some genuine posters there from the right, but it was, mostly a clusterf*ck. Or a circle-jerk, whichever. I commented a few times, and actually got one or two non-hijacking responses amongst the other trollshite.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
The posts were coming at about 300/hr. I’m a little surprised it didn’t shut down the entire site. Perhaps it was described as a “cluster-jerk”…
Take a look at Gremlins sometime. It’s a pretty funny moive, especially the scenes when the gremlins run amok at the end.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:37 pmThe cons have no sense of humor. Trust me I live in Georgia :D
Their strength lies in their body odor…
I definitely appreciate the humor.
Comment by unbelievable
It’d be nice to make the cons laugh, but making others laugh at them is just as effective.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:39 pm” I think afterward, I’m gonna pop The Fountainhead in the VCR & tune out the world. [and no - that’s not a euphemism for anything]”
see y’all later
Comment by Daniel — June 23, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
LOL! See you later!
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:39 pmLOL! See you later!
Comment by Jane E. Schneide
Good thing he put that disclaimer in there, huh?
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:47 pm“Good thing he put that disclaimer in there, huh?”
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 23, 2007 @ 3:47 pm
Especially around us with our filthy minds! :D (Uh-oh, I hope he didn’t see some of my comments on the “onion ring” thread. I can get so crude sometimes!)
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:54 pmCreationism isn’t a theory. It’s bullsh*t dogma pulled from the world’s first science fiction novel.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:55 pmGonzales speech should be “How Not To Lie; Selective Forgetfulness and I Don’t Remember Syndrome.”
He is an Evil, Fascist neo-con who should be in jail.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:59 pmI can get so crude sometimes!)
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Well, you were giving me a run for my money, which ain’t easy to do… ;-D!!
I have been known to make men cry and women take a swing at me.
June 23rd, 2007 at 4:52 pmWell, you were giving me a run for my money, which ain’t easy to do… ;-D!!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 23, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
Uh, thanks!? Sorry, unlike my mother, I am NOT a “lady.”
June 23rd, 2007 at 5:44 pmComment by Squonk — June 23, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
Thanks, Squonk, I just happened to watch that movie again the other night…
June 23rd, 2007 at 6:04 pmSpeaking of movies, if they ever make a Bush-Cheney epic, shouldn’t it be called “Evil and Eviler?”
June 23rd, 2007 at 6:22 pmOr maybe “Casanegra”
June 23rd, 2007 at 6:33 pm“Wrong and Wronger”? “Vile and Viler”?
June 23rd, 2007 at 6:38 pm“Pride and Prejudice Too”
June 23rd, 2007 at 6:47 pm“All The President’s Men Not in the Executive Branch”
June 23rd, 2007 at 6:52 pm“Absolute Cower”
June 23rd, 2007 at 7:03 pm“Nonsense and Nonsensibility”
June 23rd, 2007 at 7:23 pmThe institute’s main financial backer, savings and loan heir Howard Ahmanson, spent 20 years on the board of the Chalcedon Foundation, “a theocratic outfit that advocates the replacement of American civil law with biblical law.â€
This makes Howard Ahmanson a traitor to this country and an enemy of the people. ANYBODY WHO SEEKS TO REPLACE THIS GREAT DEMOCRACY WITH ANY OTHER FORM OF GOVERNMENT IS AN ENEMY OF THE STATE!!
Replace the word “biblical” with “Nazi” in the above quote and this worthless a$$hole would be in jail already!!!! When do we start enforcing the laws against treason this country????!!!!!!
Howard Ahmanson IS AN ENEMY WITHIN WHO MUST BE DEALT WITH CORRECTLY AND QUICKLY!!!
June 23rd, 2007 at 7:27 pm“An Inconvenient Truth II”
June 23rd, 2007 at 7:31 pmUhm… “The Babble” ;)
June 23rd, 2007 at 7:31 pm“Mad George, Beyond Blunderdome”
June 23rd, 2007 at 7:36 pm…co-starring Deadeye Dick as “Master-Blaster,”
June 23rd, 2007 at 7:40 pmwith Condi Rice as “Auntie Entity”
Condi makes a really nice bottom, doesn’t she?
June 23rd, 2007 at 7:44 pmCondi makes a really nice bottom, doesn’t she?
Comment by MsJoanne Well, she has the shoes for it…
June 23rd, 2007 at 7:49 pmOOoh, baby, OOOH! SHOOOOOOOES! (swoon faint thud)
I love how all women in politics are defined by their attire. Pelosi in her mint green expensive suit. Plame is model material.
At least men are creeping in with Mitt and his oh so manly look and scent.
Politics have gone Paris Hilton on us.
Thanks, MSN! It’s great that the things that matter are resoundly questioned, yet those niggling little things like F*CKING TREASON are neglected.
June 23rd, 2007 at 8:00 pmA clear water pond of amebas and other simple cell life forms pooled leaving what appears could be tendrils of ghost word messages. Fireflies have been observed gathering in mass; their erratic flashing having been taken as an apocalyptic, heaven sent SOS. Alberto, the world’s most infamous munchkin
June 23rd, 2007 at 8:06 pmhas taken steps to Annett himself as the ultimate messenger of a fool’s errand. Run Alberto, run like the wind you child of devotion. Your father would never misguide you, nor lead you astray. Chalk up another gold star for Alberto.
The connection between the Justice Department and the Discovery Institute has to do with rules of evidence. The evidence for voter fraud in the 2004 gubernatorial election, for example, is substantively similar to the evidence for a creator or “designer” at work in the evolution of life on Earth.
June 23rd, 2007 at 9:00 pmJust an aside, as I was going thru the checkout at the grocery today, spied an article on Enquirer front page about Laura catching her chymp in an affair, divorce is on the way!
June 23rd, 2007 at 10:28 pmNot that I believe any of that tabloid crap, but malicious gossip is what these moronis deserve.
Religion should be treated and taxed as entertainment. That is the only thing people get from it.
June 23rd, 2007 at 10:40 pm#134 ~ or maybe gambling??
June 23rd, 2007 at 10:46 pmJust an aside, as I was going thru the checkout at the grocery today, spied an article on Enquirer front page about Laura catching her chymp in an affair, divorce is on the way!
Not that I believe any of that tabloid crap, but malicious gossip is what these moronis deserve.
Comment by RUCerious — June 23, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
I’ve been seeing those, too, and I laugh every time. I love the pictures they use of people when they’re angry or very happy. They’re never flattering, but the ones of Laura Bush all pissed off are great. She has that look that all husbands fear. (”Uh-oh. I guess I’ll find out sooner or later what I’m in trouble for.”)
Butu I do hope it’s true. She’ll stick it out until January 21, 2009, when she moves into her own place. It wouldn’t surpriose me if she went ahead and arranged a post-dated divorce. (The whole thing inspired me to write another song parody, but I need to work on it a bit before I get around to posting it.)
June 23rd, 2007 at 11:11 pmAccording to Barack Obama, you folks don’t really have a problem with Christianity at all. It’s not Christians that you dislike or even evangelical Christians. It’s only conservative Christians. I’m really glad Obama cleared that up. Now y’all don’t have to bash Christianity anymore, only conservatives. I always wondered how it was that y’all were able to stomach Patriotic Liberal Christian. I assumed it was because he never defended Christianity, but it’s actually because he is a liberal. Who’d a thought? ;)
Obama: “…At every opportunity, they’ve told evangelical Christians that Democrats disrespect their values and dislike their church, while suggesting to the rest of the country that religious Americans care only about issues like abortion and gay marriage, school prayer and intelligent design,” according to an advance copy of his speech.”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102×2891417
June 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 pmComment by upright left — June 23, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
That reminded me of H.L. Mencken, “I have nothing against Christianity. It’s Christians I can’t stand.”
I’m not saying that’s my view, too. I was simply reminded of it. :)
June 23rd, 2007 at 11:59 pmThat reminded me of H.L. Mencken, “I have nothing against Christianity. It’s Christians I can’t stand.â€
I’m not saying that’s my view, too. I was simply reminded of it. :)
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 23, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
Hey, that works too, Wayne.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:03 ammy only question is, where and when? we will march against that sleazebag.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:27 am[...]you folks don’t really have a problem with Christianity at all. It’s not Christians that you dislike or even evangelical Christians. It’s only conservative Christians.
Comment by upright left — June 23, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
Actually “conservative” and “evangical” are used to avoid calling these so-called Christians FUNDAMENTALIST. That’s right. Just as dangerous to this country and main-stream Christianity as fundamentalist Islamist are in many country.
The fundamentalist christians, I call them christianistas, aren’t true believers. They use religion as a crutch, or as a set of brass knuckles depending on the situation. Anyone in this country who calls for the replacement of our democracy with a christian theocracy or “God’s law” are enemies of the state.
I believe they should be arrested and detained for questioning about their hidden militias, weapons, supporters, etc. They should loose their tax exempt status. Calling for the destruction of our government is not a religious activity. It’s not even christian, as are most things these fundy’s do.
I believe that AG the AG is one of these people and he needs to impeached and charged with treason!!!
Howard Ahmanson has called for the destruction of our democracy. He is an enemy of this government and the people!!!!
June 24th, 2007 at 6:38 amActually “conservative†and “evangical†are used to avoid calling these so-called Christians FUNDAMENTALIST. That’s right. Just as dangerous to this country and main-stream Christianity as fundamentalist Islamist are in many country.
Comment by dixie blood — June 24, 2007 @ 6:38 am
The dangerous ones are the ones that put the ‘mental’ in ‘fundamentalist’.
June 24th, 2007 at 9:26 amIf I were Gonzales, I’d pray for for a woman’s rib…something I could beat myself to death with before they throw my stupid biased, 666 ass in jail.
June 24th, 2007 at 3:24 pmIf I were Gonzales, I’d pray for for a woman’s rib…something I could beat myself to death with before they throw my stupid biased, 666 ass in jail.
Comment by Impishparrot — June 24, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
He can’t do that…in his world women are second class citizens…here to serve their men…
This is another reason that fundy christies must be resisted. They hate women. The Southern Baptist Convention (a possible Jesus cult) declared that women must submit to their husbands. It’s ph*cking church law!!! In this country? In the USA? Give me a break!!!!!!!
The only reason white-male fundy christies put up with women is that they can have sex with them without be called gay.
If gays were to disappear tommorow, women would be next in line for the hatred, intolerance and political/social wilderness now reserved for gays and lesbians. You can see it. No abortion, no divorce, no freedom…submit, submit, submit!!!!
June 24th, 2007 at 4:11 pmGonzales is a living refutation of the concept of intelligent design. He can’t open his mouth for five seconds without saying something terribly stupid, illogic, unreasonable,… read: not intelligent.
June 25th, 2007 at 3:53 amGonzo speaking about the origins of life is like me explaining the Three Laws of Thermodynamics.
June 25th, 2007 at 4:51 pm