Russert: ISG Commissioners Say Giuliani’s Excuse For Leaving Is Untrue
Russert: ISG Commissioners Say Giuliani’s Excuse For Leaving Is Untrue
Earlier this week, Newsday reported that former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani quit the Iraq Study Group after co-chairman James Baker offered “him a stark choice: either attend the meetings or quit.” Giuliani had failed to show up for a single meeting during the two months he was a member of the commission.
In response to the story, Giuliani said he left the group because he “didn’t want the group’s work to become a political football” for his nascent presidential campaign, a claim that has been thoroughly debunked.
On Meet The Press this morning, host Tim Russert offered more evidence that politics was not an issue in Giuliani’s decision to leave the ISG. “Several commission members have said to me that presidential politics never entered the discussion,” said Russert. “It was all about Giuliani’s schedule and commitments versus showing up for the Iraq Study Group.” Watch it:
As PBS’s Gwen Ifil pointed out, the important work of the Iraq Study Group should have come before any political considerations. “Even if it were his presidential ambitions,” said Ifill. “Is that really a good answer that you were so political that you rather focus on politics than focus on the nation’s security?”
Transcript:
TIM RUSSERT: “The developments came on a day when the campaign was responding to a report in Newsday that Mr. Diuliani quit the Iraq Study Group last year after failing to show up for a single meeting. The report said Mr. Giuliani missed the meetings to give paid speeches and his absence has prompted the panel’s Republican co-chairman, James Baker, to ask him to either start showing up or leave the group.” The Giuliani campaign said part of the equation is he was considering to run for president at that time and his presence on the group may pose a potential conflict. several commission members said to me that presidential politics never entered the discussion, it was all about Giuliani’s schedule and commitments versus showing up for the iraq study group. Does this week matter?
GWEN IFILL: Even if it were his presidential ambitions that kept him, is that really a good answer that you were so political that you rather focus on politics than focus on the nation’s security when you are running as the top cop? I don’t think had a really particularly good answer for that.
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Don’t you think for a minute that Romney and McInSane aren’t going to ram this up Julie Annie’s ass during the primary season.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:03 pmJulie might even like it!
Rudy’s skirt gets lifted.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:06 pmWhat a drag…
I flipped around the talk shows…I didn’t hear a word about Shooter. Nice how these talking heads fall right in line isn’t it? I’m disgusted.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:06 pmWell, the current President takes more vacation time than any other president in history, so why not blow off the ISG? It’s just another gabfest.
Look at McCain. He’s a senator, one of the most elite jobs in America and he’s been blowing off the Senate in his quest to be Prez. He’s been a notorious “no show” for many votes. And does he care, NO.
Clearly, Giuliani and McCain have what it takes to be a President of the same caliber as the current officeholder: that is, a complete disregard for the actual work and a love of the perks.
And now we know the key to success is to select a VP who will do all the real Deciding. Makes it easier to go out to the ranch and clear brush all day –clearly a more important job that tracking down bin Laden or negotiating world peace.
P.S.: I just rewatched the Seinfeld episode where Giuliani’s concern is non-fat yoghurt. It seems prescient now.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:08 pmConsidering that he’ll never be President, it was an unethical and selfish choice for him to have made.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:08 pmFrauds Fakes and Terrible Liars… is this how we the employers of these people expect to be treated?
“Just lie to the stupid children…we the people …what a joke…”
June 24th, 2007 at 12:17 pmTo Be Fair…
Rudy had the choice of dealing with Iraq via the group, or dealing with Iraq as president. Which position do you think gives him more power?
I can see why he’d hold off on that group in order to run for president, because he probably thinks he can do more as President. And if he fails - which I hope, and do believe he will - he can return to the group and work with them then.
My only question is, if he only joined 2 months ago, SURELY he knew he’d be running for President at that point, so why did he join a group he knew he couldn’t commit to? THAT sounds like politics.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:20 pmGiuliani seems to always have a ready answer to keep him out of trouble. The question is, how factual are his answers ? or simply Giuliani just tailors his answers,when asked, based on what gives him the best image at that moment.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:23 pmI’m sorry, but that’s laughable and SO disconnected from how this will be preceived by the public. Giuliani held off attending to make even more somolians on the back of 9/11.
I hope Rudy gets the Republican nomination…..we’ll have a dem president in 2009.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:26 pm“…SURELY he knew he’d be running for President at that point, so why did he join a group he knew he couldn’t commit to?”
Comment by Anonymous By Choice
He is an opportunist,
June 24th, 2007 at 12:28 pmand not above running a con either…
You guys should stop these hit pieces against me. I am a hero and helped save our country back in 2001. These kind of character assasinations are bad for our country and bad for Americans. If you truly believe in this country, you would vote for me. I am an American Hero!
June 24th, 2007 at 12:38 pmIFILL: “Is that really a good answer that you were so political that you rather focus on politics than focus on the nation’s security?â€
Apparently it’s a good enough answer for Rudy.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:41 pmWhatever blows your dress up, Rudy! Actually, if people were one tenth as impressed with Rudy as he is with himself, then it might be saying something.
Clearly, the “Bloomberg Effect” will tank Rudy’s campaign. It’s already begun it’s downward plummet.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:43 pmAnon by Choice, what a load of crap! I suppose Giuliani’s father used the line that he’d rather not fight the Nazis as a soldier but rather run for president and fight them from that position.
Come on. This sounds like Cheney’s five deferments. I’ll deal with them later because I have more important things to do.
I’m sure Giuliani will be on Wife #4 by the time he hits the White House. He does have his priorities.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:43 pmI am an American Hero!
Comment by Rudy Giuliani — June 24, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
Uh, Jake - From the Terms of Use:
You agree not to:
June 24th, 2007 at 12:44 pm• Impersonate any person or entity, including any APAF employees, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with any person or entity.
The qualifications for entry into the GOP will soon become: All liars, thieves, and charlatans apply! They’ve become so toxic that soon they will become our “third party”. And, can’t say that they haven’t brought this on themselves. No one need do anything to a group of pathological thugs like the GOP; they will self-destruct if given enough time…..and it’s coming to fruition now.
I’m wondering when the GOP will parade out “their holy trinity” in order to see if they can pull people’s chains again (of course, the trick won’t work again, as we all know)….the GOP “Big Three” is: GOD, GUNS, AND GAYS. It’s sick how they use these three when they’ve hit rock bottom, isn’t it?
June 24th, 2007 at 12:46 pmUnfortunately, Giuliani’s nothing more than a typical mafioso thug - always has been/always will be. His partner in crime (Bernie Kerik) has already cost him any shred of credibility (helping to complete Bernie’s bogus application for Homeland Security Chief, as he so readily did) but now we’re finding out more lies, spin, and bull$hit coming from Rudy’s mouth. He cannot be trusted, that’s clear.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:47 pmJust ask any New Yorker about Rudy - a recent poll asked them who was the better Mayor….and, hands down, across the board they voted for Bloomberg….tells you something important since Giuliani was the “annointed one” because of his being in the right place at the right time….911/New York. Even with all of that fanfare, New yorkers will not be bought or fooled by a cheap charlatan. Anyone still believe that Rudy’s being in the right place at the right time was coincidence in terms of him being the “replacement annointed puppet”???
June 24th, 2007 at 12:49 pmIt appears that the MSM is making a case for Bush’s continued corruption and his abysmally low numbers (now 26%) actually tanking all of the GOP candidates. Guess he’s decided to “take ‘em all down with him”??
June 24th, 2007 at 12:51 pmThe image at the beginning of the clip looks like the capital has flying saucers hovering overhead.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:53 pmI’ll rally appropriately when the day comes that the MSM finally realizes that now the Independent voters thoughts and desires trump that of the obviously less (by percentage now) Republicans. Soon they will have no alternative but to do so and it appears to be occurring this very weekend.
The “bloomberg effect” is real, folks…..and a happening thing….and, of course, it’s “time”! Now 57% of the people believe that Congress is failing them and not representing them….so this, as well, is an indication of what’s to come.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:54 pmConnect those dots….overturn every rock! It’s all there and can be put together…like the pieces of a complex puzzle.
Just read something about Darryn Kagen (CNN anchor who mysteriously disappeared from the radar recently)….guess the outing of her hubby as a member of PNAC sealed her fate and her contract was not renewed. Hmmm….
June 24th, 2007 at 12:55 pmThis is not news.
Blanket statement for this kind of story: The Republic Party candidates do not love America, nor are they patriots or heroes (as amply evident by their military records). The Republic Party candidates are pushing for a two class system: the Poor Working Class and the Wealthy Ruling Class. they will do or say whatever is necessary - with absolutely no moral, ethical, or legal constraints - that will get them elected and help them attain this goal.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:56 pmGoogle every member of PNAC and see what you find. Where were each of them on 911? Then google every member of the Federalist Society if you want to make your skin crawl. You will see them in every department of this administration…..like cockroaches crawling out of the woodwork….connect the dots…
June 24th, 2007 at 12:56 pm#23 and they’ve handily accomplished this with the allowance of “slave labor” once again in this country. So what else can be said about intentionally allowing our borders to be wide open?
June 24th, 2007 at 12:57 pm“…New yorkers will not be bought or fooled by a cheap charlatan.”
Comment by veritas — June 24, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
As a lifelong New Yorker, thanks for the compliment. New Yorkers know Rudy - Rudy is NOT presidential material.
June 24th, 2007 at 1:18 pmI can’t believe that so many Americans have already signed on to Giuliani (as reflected by the polls). Since we’ve still time, surely they will come to their senses. You’d think they’d learn from the elections of 2000 and 2004 but no??? As Bush so eloquently said “fool me once, shame on you; fool me ~ you can’t get fooled again”!
June 24th, 2007 at 1:20 pmVeritas–Daryn Kagan has never been married. She is 44 years old and was dating Limbaugh for awhile.
June 24th, 2007 at 1:21 pmRudy lied???
Sorry, I should be shocked…. but I expect every neocon piece of sh*t to be a liar now =P
June 24th, 2007 at 1:22 pmPatriotism should temper Capitalism. When Patriotism is subordinated to Capitalism, the Capitalist will sell his country down the river (a very useful “slave” analogy). It’ll be an interesting when the 26 percenters wake up (in figurative or literal chains) to find themselves subjugated by those to whom they were loyal minions. When it happens, I hope I have a camera.
June 24th, 2007 at 1:27 pmVeritas–Daryn Kagan has never been married. She is 44 years old and was dating Limbaugh for awhile.
Comment by sconset
The shame must have kicked in…..
June 24th, 2007 at 1:35 pmRudy Giuliani is a grade-A authoritarian douchebag but the spin among Democratic pundits and blogs is unconvincing.
What Giuliani wants certain people (Republicans and Independents) to hear is that he didn’t want to sully the Iraq Study Group with the taint of politics, and that’s what certain people are likely to hear.
The reality is that he didn’t want to sully his presidential ambitions by participating in a group whose recommendations might (and did) sound like “cut and run” to the Republican base.
I think the game is rigged, and the fact that I try to point this out persistently makes me not such a good partisan. But if you’re going to play the game the first rule is to know - and not underestimate - your enemy. Democrats have been underestimating Giuliani since the moment he entered the race.
June 24th, 2007 at 1:35 pmComment by Linus — June 24, 2007 @ 1:35 pm
The only way to underestimate Rudy is to declare him biologically dead.
June 24th, 2007 at 2:02 pmMcCain and Giuliani are on the same. You can’t expet the truth out of these guys. Both are political hacks who would rather take to the road for votes than do their job, and when they do show up for work the results are awful.
June 24th, 2007 at 2:35 pmGiuliani was a disaster for New York firefighters and now so many are suffering for it. McCain is a calamity for this country with his attempt to still find a war he can win and his support for keeping our troops in Iraq. Both campaigns are heading for the dump heap where they belong.
“GWEN IFILL: Even if it were his presidential ambitions that kept him, is that really a good answer that you were so political that you rather focus on politics than focus on the nation’s security when you are running as the top cop? I don’t think had a really particularly good answer for that.”
Gwen is wrong on this one.
If Giuliani felt that he would better serve the country’s national security interests by becoming president rather than being a 9/11 Committee member, and assuming that the two endeavors conflict with one another, then Giuliani answer is satisfactory, assuming, of course, that his answer was honest.
June 24th, 2007 at 2:37 pmRE: Comment #1
Julie Annie is a very nice turn. Forget your other plays on word. Julie Annie, IMO, should be used extensively.
June 24th, 2007 at 2:44 pmComment by smike — June 24, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
Hmmm, I kinda like “Julie Annie-Get-Your-Gun.” ;-)
June 24th, 2007 at 2:48 pmFor those who discount Giuliani’s run for president I pose 2 questions.
June 24th, 2007 at 2:59 pm1- Who do you suppose will get the rigged voting machine votes in the primary and general eledtions.
2- With Giuliani as the Republican candidate how will a 9/11 type of event, prior to the election, effect the voting.
I would suggest the the primary concern of the neocons is closing the door on 9/11 investigations. Treason and death penalties are at stake for those with prior 9/11 knowledge. This makes rigging the next election an absolute necessity for those involved.
Comment by Larry Woodfill — June 24, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Good points. Scary, and definitely something to think about.
June 24th, 2007 at 3:04 pmSome might think that your comments are paranoid or unrealistic. In light of the happenings during the BA, I don’t think they’re too far from plausible. Let’s hope they try it and fail miserably (the result being trials and public hangings). Even if this scenario comes to pass, there will be a faction who believe that these scumbags are patriots and statesmen.
June 24th, 2007 at 3:04 pmI googled Chief Justice John Roberts but cannot find if he was a member of the Federalist Society.
June 24th, 2007 at 3:05 pmGet your tin-foil hats!!!
June 24th, 2007 at 3:06 pmI googled Chief Justice John Roberts but cannot find if he was a member of the Federalist Society.
Comment by Jake
I gobbled the Federalist Society Chief, but couln’t find his member.
(There, fixed it for ya!)
June 24th, 2007 at 3:12 pmGet your tin-foil hats!!!
Comment by Jake — June 24, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Why don’t you go put on your “Cone of Silence”?
……………………
Comment by heyzeus — June 24, 2007 @ 3:12 pm
LOL!
June 24th, 2007 at 3:15 pmJulie Annie, is thet sum kind uv Mary Jane?
Damn them Dirty F**king Hippies!
June 24th, 2007 at 3:16 pmYou can put a dress and lipstick on him, but a pig is still a pig.
June 24th, 2007 at 3:18 pmGwen Ifill was right to slam Giuliani. This idea that he’d best serve national security by being president assumes that he’d actually get elected. Serving on the Iraq board ensures he can do something significant. Besides, the board members themselves said this would not interfere with his political ambition. To me, he just wanted to raised as much cash as possible for either his candidacy or his personal bank account.
June 24th, 2007 at 3:21 pmJake,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2005/ 07/ 24/ AR2005072401201.html
Sheesh, do we have to do ALL your fact-checking for you?
[P.S. It was the first hit on Googling: +”Federalist Society” +”John Roberts”.]
June 24th, 2007 at 3:22 pmIMHO, Giuliani is providing raison d’etre for the existence of pundits - in the end, Rudy will have been a flash in the pan.
June 24th, 2007 at 3:27 pmHe has too much baggage, not conservative enough, and he is a one-trick pony because he was mayor on 9/11 and was visible while Bushie was reading my pet goat. Forget that he had put the entire control center in the WTC when it had already been a target. Rudy was on the streets because he had no office to go to!
Rudy is all show and no substance.
IFILL: “Is that really a good answer that you were so political that you rather focus on politics than focus on the nation’s security?â€
Apparently it’s a good enough answer for Rudy.
Comment by Zooey — June 24, 2007 @ 12:41 pm
Actually, Ifill was wrong. He left the investigation for MONETARY GAINS. HE COULDN’T STOP GETTIN’ RICH OFF THE BACKS OF THE 9/11 VICTIMS!!!
Or maybe he just couldn’t spend time away from his latest girlfirend/wife/concubine, etc…
He’s a scumbag, loser!!!
June 24th, 2007 at 3:28 pmHe didn’t show up at the ISG because he was too busy making a shitload of $$$$$ giving inane speeches to bored corporate conventions and trade associations.
Is this a clue to what will happen if this crook is elected?
June 24th, 2007 at 3:35 pmWe thought Giuliani was still trying to justify his actions post-9/11.
He told us to return to work east of the fires at WTC. While the smoke was still billowing out of the wreckage. Otherwise he did NOTHING.
Now, of course, turns out that Giuliani and the Feds knew the smoke was poisonous. People who worked at the site are dying.
We’re waiting to see the long term effects.
Rudy, HELL NO.
June 24th, 2007 at 3:38 pmCould it be his speeches’ arrangements at $100,000 a speech caused him not to attend any ISG meeting.
June 24th, 2007 at 3:39 pmThe guy was making money,being the star of 9/11 tragedy…
so why bother to be at any meeting!
IMHO, Giuliani is providing raison d’etre for the existence of pundits - in the end, Rudy will have been a flash in the pan.
He has too much baggage, not conservative enough, and he is a one-trick pony because he was mayor on 9/11 and was visible while Bushie was reading my pet goat. Forget that he had put the entire control center in the WTC when it had already been a target. Rudy was on the streets because he had no office to go to!
Rudy is all show and no substance.
Comment by Marie — June 24, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
This is so true…he was advised NOT to put the NYPD command center at the scene of the first attempt to take the twin towers down!!
Rude Yee Ghouliana is the worst thing that could happen to this country since…uh…uh…GW BOTCH!!!!!
Of couse facist, corp. America is ready to annoint this guy…They need him to keep the sheeple in place using Nazi-like technics…no habeus…renditions…endless war…never ending love for Israel and a stink up the whole place, burn The Constitution to hell with the people and the Declaration of Independence attitude!!!
How do you spot a facist? Easy, they’re all Repubniscums!!!!!!!!
June 24th, 2007 at 3:39 pmGigi was obviously too busy learning how to walk in high heels. So much to vamp about, so little time!
June 24th, 2007 at 3:44 pmRunning for prez is just another way for RG to maintain his (false) status…he probably doesn’t even care if he wins….he’s as slippery as the grease in his hair. The media didn’t create him - he created THEM and continues to do so.
June 24th, 2007 at 4:14 pmProfit before Patriotism . . . .as always.
June 24th, 2007 at 4:31 pmWell, it’s a political football now, ain’t it Rudy?
June 24th, 2007 at 4:31 pmWell, it’s a political football now, ain’t it Rudy?
Comment by nota bene — June 24, 2007 @ 4:31 pm
Good point! These lying types don’t seem to understand that they might as well tell the truth to start with, because it’s so much worse when they’re found out.
June 24th, 2007 at 5:00 pmjulie annie … lolz
the former mayor is liar, coward, thief … and a lousy act as a drag queen
June 24th, 2007 at 5:04 pmjulie annie … lolz
the former mayor is liar, coward, thief … and a lousy act as a drag queen
Comment by wtf — June 24, 2007 @ 5:04 pm
Drag Queen is right…he dressed up multiple times as DIFFERENT women. He SHOPPED FOR MORE DRESSES, WIGS, HATS, BAGS, SHOES, MAKEUP, ETC. BETWEEN EVERY APPEARANCE!!
But she keeps a pedophile priest on staff…
Throw in a cocaine bust for one of her cute little supporters and this just gets so gay…
Is she a top or bottom?
June 24th, 2007 at 5:13 pmBTW, I think Ghouliani is a power top!!
June 24th, 2007 at 5:18 pmBTW, I think Ghouliani is a power top!!
Comment by dixie blood — June 24, 2007 @ 5:18 pm
That’s an acute observation - he spins everything.
June 24th, 2007 at 5:28 pmAs if the Iraq Study Group was actually a legitimate pursuit to begin with.
Jimmy Baker has his own “think tank” called the James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy at Rice University. It played a direct role in guiding the Iraq Study Group.
The director of the Baker Institute is Edward Djerejian, who just also happens to be a director of Baker Hughes, Inc.(oil and gas equipment & services provider of drilling fluids, completion fluids and fluids environmental services) and Global Industries, Ltd. (energy pipeline construction, oil platform installation and removal, construction support, diving services, to the offshore oil and gas industry all over the world).
He’s also director of Occidental Petroleum Corporation an international petroleum exploration and development company.
All these companies have more than their fair share of controversies and abuses and are heavily vested in middle east oil, so why is Djerejian authoring portions of the Iraq Study Groups report? He is responsible for the reports argument that American success in Iraq depends in part on progress in resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Gee I wonder why he would make that argument?
June 24th, 2007 at 5:38 pmComment by WaltTheMan — June 24, 2007 @ 5:28 pm
LMAO!!!
I think her campaign song will be from the Disco/Cut Out bin…you know…old vinyl…
June 24th, 2007 at 5:51 pmMayor Rudy Giuliani hero?
September 11, 2001, Giuliani was trapped in a corridor in one of the World Trade Center buildings and was almost a casualty. This close brush with death energized him, propelling him tirelessly to every TV camera available. And from every newly discovered horror to the next. Rudy was everywhere. The media, impressed, anointed him the icon of the disaster: the brash, New Yorker with his bona fide New York accent became a stand-in symbol for the city’s courage and resolution. But, what did Rudy actually do, to be called a hero?
June 24th, 2007 at 5:52 pmRudy at the RNC Convention, 8/30/04:
“I grabbed the arm of then-Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik, and I said to him, “Bernie, thank God George Bush is our president.”
“… and thank God that Dick Cheney, a man with his experience and his knowledge and his strength and his background, is our vice president…
“… President George W. Bush already has earned a place in history as a great American president.”
Oh, my… what a mother lode of images! Rudy has a real eye for history and leadership, huh?
June 24th, 2007 at 5:56 pmBut, what did Rudy actually do, to be called a hero?
Comment by Wil Burns — June 24, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
Me..me..call on me..I know…please call on me….
Thank you!
My answer is nothing, nada, nill, null, abject hollowness and a chase after a seat in hell next to the Diablo himself!!!
June 24th, 2007 at 5:57 pm“But, what did Rudy actually do, to be called a hero?”
Comment by Wil Burns
Rudy was in the right position, at the right time,
and he worked it like a pizza dough.
Spinning, and tossing,
kneading and smoothing…….
Now he thinks he can bake himself another one.
June 24th, 2007 at 6:18 pmUntil last week, I did not worry about the possibility of Giuliani becomig the next President of USA. The chance of any Republican candidate winning against a Democrat like Hilary Clinton or Barack Obama, looked so slim then. But things have changed dramatically with the mayor of New York City, Michael Bloomberg, signaling his intention to enter the Presidential race as an Independent candidate. Although he has very little chance of winning the Presidency, Bloomberg will drain a lot of votes from the Democratic candidate, thereby creating the opening for the Republican candidate to slip through. My only hope is that the hard core conservative block of the Republican party will be so dumb to deny Giuliani the Republican nomination, as they do not like his stand on abortion and gay rights!
June 24th, 2007 at 6:29 pmif you don’t want to be in the group because you want to be president, then it would probably make more sense to formally withdraw and not wait until they force you out. I’m just saying.
June 24th, 2007 at 6:55 pmSo Rudy is learning about the old double standard. If you sell pardons, sell the lincoln bedroom, hide the billing records that can send you to prison, lie to the nation about your supporting your husbands affairs…..the democrats will run you for president and the left wing press will give you a pass.
Run as a republican, and they will sift through your life and destroy you!
Fred Thompson, you are the man. Run Fred, the nation needs you.
June 24th, 2007 at 7:33 pmThe conservative bass of the republican party will stay home if Giuliani is the Republican candidate and the corrupt Hillary will waltz into the Whitehouse.
Thank you liberal press for helping to destroy Rudi.
Run Fred Thompson, Run…..you are the only man that can get the support of the base and crush Hillary.
June 24th, 2007 at 7:36 pm#68 Comment by heyzeus — June 24, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
Rudy was in the right position, at the right time,
and he worked it like a pizza dough.
Spinning, and tossing,
kneading and smoothing…….
Perfect description!
And as Dixie said “nothing, nada, nill, null, abject hollowness”
Now he thinks he can bake himself another one.
Its too late for him. He is toast. Already! And we aren’t even near the primary starting gate.
June 24th, 2007 at 7:46 pm#72 Comment by stephen — June 24, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
Thank you liberal press for helping to destroy Rudi.
You give the “nonexistant liberal press” way too much credit! The hollow suits that are vying to be the next neocon puppet are destroying themselves with damn little help from the left.
Run Fred Thompson, Run…..you are the only man that can get the support of the base and crush Hillary.
BwaaaaHaaaaHaaaa!
You neocon trolls crack me up. FRED THOMPSON? HaaaaHaaaaHaaaa. Great line! Where did you learn your stand up routine? But seriously, (wiping the tears of laughter away,) He has already sold his soul to the wingnut base, and he isn’t even officially in yet.
Explain to me how he is going to win with only 26%.
June 24th, 2007 at 7:55 pmYou guys crack me up with this Fred Thompson stuff!
The field of GOP candidates is so bad that this second-rate actor (and former third-rate senator) is being seen as a savior!
What - are Gopher and Cooter not available?
Enjoy your fantasies, GOP. You don’t even have a little chance of winning the presidency in 2008.
June 24th, 2007 at 7:57 pm#69 Comment by Chacha — June 24, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
Bloomberg will drain a lot of votes from the Democratic candidate, thereby creating the opening for the Republican candidate to slip through.
I beg to differ. He is no Democrat. What ever he chooses to call himself these days. He will drain votes from the Republicans, not the Democrats. Now if that arrogant and stupid Nader runs again, and he is making noises, that would drain some Dem votes.
June 24th, 2007 at 8:05 pmComment by heyzeus — June 24, 2007 @ 3:12 pm
I gobbled the Federalist Society Chief, but couln’t find his member.
(There, fixed it for ya!)
Just noticed this! Hilarious!
June 24th, 2007 at 8:15 pmHaaaaHaaaaHaaaa
JulieAnnie didn’t want the ISG looking under his own skirt. He knows a little too much about 9/11, too close for comfort.
June 24th, 2007 at 8:49 pmRudy failed the people of NYC prior to 9/11, on 9/11, and after 9/11.
Prior to 9/11, Rudy failed to do basics such as give firefighters radio equipment (Can’t do that, they didn’t like me), put a command center anyplace other than the place the FBI said don’t put it, or have plans in place to coordinate agencies.
On 9/11, Giuliani was running around like a deer in the headlights looking for a camera, any camera + oops he forgot to help organize emergency + command.
AFter 9/11, Giuliani cared more about money than people so when those workers died (didn’t get basic equipment like respirators or hazmat uniforms) b/c Rudy would not have liked the image of workers actually looking out for their own safety.
That’s Rudy for you.
June 24th, 2007 at 8:49 pmSorry kids, no Republicans are voting for Bloomberg. He’s never really been a Republican. God, I hope he runs.
June 24th, 2007 at 8:55 pmrudy: Got Meglomaniacs?
June 24th, 2007 at 9:12 pmwhen will Rudy’s real failures during 9-11, from impeding the first responders, to not mandating masks at Ground Zero, FINALLY be exposed?
June 24th, 2007 at 10:04 pm“Drag Queen is right…he dressed up multiple times as DIFFERENT women. He SHOPPED FOR MORE DRESSES, WIGS, HATS, BAGS, SHOES, MAKEUP, ETC. BETWEEN EVERY APPEARANCE!!”
They say a picture is worth a thousand words.
June 24th, 2007 at 10:57 pmGame over Rudy.
June 24th, 2007 at 11:26 pmTime to head down to South Beach and play somemore dress-up.
Does any one remember that shortly after 911, Rudy brought up a suggestion that the elections for a new mayor be canceled and he be retained to support the “recovery”? Just a reminder of what kind of President he would be should disaster strike America during a Julie Annie administration.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:09 am“Run Fred Thompson, Run…..you are the only man that can get the support of the base and crush Hillary.”
You know Ol Fred might get the support of “the base” I agree. The faithful 26%- are among the basest people I know.
Just let it be known that Ol Fred was a big bucks lobbyist for foreign governments. Tell “the base” that he “doesn’t like to work too hard.” Tell them that he is as phoney as a $3 bill. Tell them all that and he might very well be considered the legitimate successor to W.
Fred Thompson, is that really the best you can do?
June 25th, 2007 at 12:46 amComment by WaltTheMan — June 25, 2007 @ 12:09 am
I do. 9/11/01 was the day of the primaries. Rudy thought he should remain in office beyond the start of the new year. For some reason, I dont his intentions were as altruistic as he pretended they were. I mean, if wanting to be there to help was all he wanted, he could have asked incoming Mayor Mike Bloomberg to keeop him on as a Deputy Mayor. He could have been responsible for 9/11-related contingencies. But no, he wanted to be in charge. What a megalomaniac. Yes, the country is going to learn a lot about the “real” Guiliani the better he does in the polls. We New Yorkers will see to that.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:50 amFor the record, “big bucks” lobbyists make more than $65,000 per year. If he can beat Hillary Clinton, then run Fred run!
June 25th, 2007 at 12:55 amhttp://thepoolbar.blogspot.com/ 2007/ 06/ you-know-youre-near-target-when-you.html
June 25th, 2007 at 1:03 amI wish during the next republican debate, that someone will ask him about the collapse of bldg 7 in the world trade center complex..Specifically what does he believe caused the building to collapse the way it did..
Also, he should be asked as to what were the factors he considered when he chose that building to be his emergency headquarters …
June 25th, 2007 at 11:11 amActually, It seems to me that Giuliani was chosen for the study group because he happened to be in the right place at the right time. Tell me…what did he do that was so heroic? I’ve never been clear on that. i myself could have taken a bull horn and yelled patriotic slogans, and I don’t consider myself even near to being a hero. His facade is really flimsy to say the least.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:20 amRudy Giuliani or Vampire Ghouliani?
June 25th, 2007 at 1:08 pm